Bellied Up - Should the U.P. Belong to Wisconsin? #211
Episode Date: July 30, 2026We're at the Sunlite Bar in Detroit Lakes, MN. Our first caller is Tim from Alabama, who's curious about Michigan and why Wisconsin eats so much damn cheese. Then Pat calls in to tell us about... a complicated situation involving his cousin, as well as his experience working as a budtender.Go to shadyrays.com and use code belliedup for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarized sunglasses. #adWanna call in? Leave us a voicemail: 218-303-5095
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Hey, folks, welcome back to the bellied up podcast.
I'm here with my buddy Miles who's sucking on a fridge sig.
Yeah, I am.
You know how they always say like you've been drinking a lot?
You just like mix in a water.
Once in a while I like to mix in a DC.
DC.
A little fridge sig.
Just get that asper tame up in those veins.
Now that I got a, now that I got a kid, I can't really be smoking real sigs outside the bar.
So instead I grab for a fridge sig.
I wonder what's worse for you.
A fridge sag or a real sake?
A real cigarette.
Okay.
Without a question.
I don't know, Miles.
I don't know.
I've been reading things on the internet.
You've been hanging out with my mom.
My mom does not,
she thinks Aspartame is not good.
Yeah, she's trending.
Yeah, I mean, if I had, you know, 400 Diet Coke's today,
I think I'd probably be in big trouble with the Aspartame.
What's something that you would do that you know is bad for you?
you, but if it wasn't for a day, you would just do it all the time.
Binge drinking.
That's it.
You have all the options in the world, Miles.
Do it.
Say it again.
It's a terrible.
It's a terrible prompt.
Say it again.
Okay.
If something you knew is terrible for you, but you could do it for a day with no consequences,
what would you do?
Oh, some hard drugs.
Hard drugs.
Yeah.
Just eat all of them.
Or a lot of ice cream.
Yeah, but I, you know.
No consequences.
You won't get any weight.
It won't get sick.
Nothing.
Well, then I'm, then I'm just eating unlimited loaves of bread if we're on the food
route.
But with, you know, because the consequences on eating 12 loaves of bread today is not good,
but it's not going to be terrible.
Right.
But if I could just do one day and get all hard drugs out of the way and say I did them all and
there's no consequences.
Yeah.
Why wouldn't you choose that?
Yeah.
I could actually do.
12 loaves of bread in one day.
You know?
I mean, yeah.
I think, I think.
Yeah, that's a good one.
Because then you can say you've done them then, too.
I think I go skydiving without a parachute.
Okay.
Yeah, I guess that's a good one.
It's probably the most dangerous thing you can do.
I think that I would maybe, that would maybe be a good excuse to go to space as well.
Oh, yeah.
I tie myself to a rocket.
You know you can die, go to space.
Or go to the bottom of the,
the ocean. Yeah, get in one of those. Go see a Titanic. Yeah. That could be good. Carbon fiber.
Don't matter, dude. Um, yeah, that's how it goes. Well, good. I'm glad we got that out of the way.
You know, maybe just maybe, you know, maybe try something really crazy, like telling, maybe I'll tell my wife that she needs to lose some weight.
Oh, my God. I'm just kidding. I've been.
No consequences.
I've got two clips I'm going to send Dan from today.
That was a joke.
My wife's an angel and she's perfect just the way she is.
She is.
Just like, you know, I, you know it's a joke because she had to deal with Domino Dan for
for a while there.
Domino, Dan.
I was so fat.
I am concerned.
I have gained a little weight lately and I do need to get back on the wagon and I got some,
I got at least 10 to 15 to lose again.
It's full circle, dude.
That's why you're doing.
in the DC.
Yeah.
Can't do diesel.
The D. Seguy.
Jared said he had a segment for us, Jared.
What's the segment, Jared?
So I was bored last night.
Okay.
I had nothing going on.
Dangerous.
You were, I thought you said you were born last night.
I thought that was the segment.
So let me have to get you up to speed on what's going on in the world.
They can do that.
So Charlie, I know you're a stand-up comedian.
Yeah.
And you have comedy special names.
titles. Neighborly. Yeah. So I was I was brainstorming what your future company special titles could be.
Oh no. And you can feel free to use these. He's releasing them from any copywriting or
it's in a charlie domain after I say. Correct. Yes. Okay. I like this segment, Jared. This is good.
What do you have? I like a Jared led segment. I do like a Jared led segment. I do like.
I do like that.
I have like eight of them.
Okay.
First one is,
here I go again.
There has to be,
there has to be a special already named that.
That sounds like a tour.
Like comedians name their tours
before they know any of the material.
So all the tour names are just the most random,
like basic,
kind of like it says something like tangentially.
funny, but you're not sure what.
Kind of like neighborly.
Like it doesn't really mean anything.
Right. Well, also with neighborly, yeah.
I thought that too, you know.
Oh, here I go again.
Maybe an ope to really tailor it towards.
Oh, here I go again.
My current tour is called the Lost and Found Tour,
just to bring it all together.
But that was based on.
Does it mean anything?
It was based off a bit that I was,
that I thought, that a bit that I was writing at the time
that I thought it no longer is very good.
By the way, all tickets for the lost and found tour can be found.
Charlie Barrens.com.
What other titles do you have, Jared?
The next one is, you thought I was finished?
That's good.
That's good.
Yeah.
And it's just, just,
it's just me and bad looking at the camera.
And then a follow-up to a,
afterwards, you finished, right?
These are good so far.
We could go gauntlet with this, Jared.
Which one do you like the most so far?
So far, you thought I was finished.
Okay.
All right.
This next one,
I think it should be your last comedy special,
like when you're 90.
Yeah.
And one more thing.
Okay.
That's cute.
That's cute.
I still think I,
Yeah, you thought I was finished.
Yeah.
And then it's you on the cover going.
Yeah.
I'm back.
Or no, yeah, you are laying in bed.
It's overhead.
You just have a cigarette in your mouth.
Yeah, there you go.
Mm-hmm.
Next one is forgot to remember.
I like that one.
I like that one.
That's the lost and found tour basically.
Yeah.
I forgot to remember.
Mm-hmm.
I like that one.
That one's a new winner.
That's the new winner?
Yeah.
Next one is this one's for Pete's sake.
That's great.
That I might take.
You know,
I build up a Pete character,
you know?
Yeah.
That'd be funny if the final joke,
if the final joke,
the final punchline is actually funny is Pete's sake.
If you can take such an average phrase and make that actually funny,
that's a,
that's like a reverse cliche reform is what it is.
next one is
Lee's Jeeze
so it's just you reverse the letters
of Jeeze Louise
Jared
Louise Jeeze
what is your poor wife
doing while you're coming up
with these things
Lees Joues
Yeah
That's my favorite
That sounds like a Midwest
High-end clothing brand
That's like my Sean John right there
Lees Joues
Lees Juis
Lees Juis
there's this there's this one high-end restaurant Milwaukee called charles vermage which i think is uh it's
french for chucky cheese pretty awesome not a sponsor i don't like this one next one is that's
interesting that's interesting yeah it's very similar to neighborly and lost and found i don't like it
Oh, fuck you, Miles.
That doesn't
really jump off the page at me.
Doesn't scream.
I got to go watch this special.
Neighborly,
free on YouTube.
Last one.
Watch out for laughs.
Oh.
That one I don't like.
I don't like that one at all, Jared.
That one is my Elvis.
Christmas themed.
It's like if you're a hack 80s comic,
that would be your...
Yeah,
that's like a special
that your aunt is trying to convince you to watch.
I got an other one for you.
What?
Come hungry and leave happy.
How do you spell come?
However you want.
What do you think of that one?
No.
I don't like it.
Okay.
What do you think about?
I like this, Jared.
What do you think about laughing good in the neighborhood?
You already did neighborly.
That sounds like Mr. Rogers went hip-hop.
Because I was thinking it kind of sounds like Applebee's.
Oh, that's where it's coming from.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Feeling, yeah, went over my head.
Maybe I should do a comedy tour.
Maybe you should.
It can be called Over My Head.
oh yeah over over my head yeah exactly you should do a comedy tour
put that one on my bad bit list so it's like 14 to 1 that's good that's good i need miles to have
a bad bit list um i called the bad bit list bad bit charlie bad bit charlie i like that dude
well chuck bob chug bad chuck bob bit list chucky bomb
Do you guys know that Charles middle name is Robert?
Chuckie Bob.
So he's Charles Robert Barrens, which is just Chuck Bob Barrens.
Chuck Bob.
Chuckie Bob.
It's a huge miss by you to not be decapitalizing on Chuck Bob.
Dude, how many Chuck Bobbs do you know?
Chuck Bob would be a great comedy special, there.
Yeah, it is.
There it is.
There it is.
I like that Chuck Bob.
So which one of those do you like the most?
are the ones you just said
one of Jared's
No out of all
All that was said
Read them all again quick
Here I go again
You thought I was finished
And one more thing
Forgot to remember
This one's for Pete's sake
That's interesting
Lees Jouies
Watch out
Lee's Juees is the best
Dude
Lees Juees
It's great
And I want the cover
To just be me
Like in a pair
of like tight ass-hugging jeans
And where the Rangler
Would be it
Would just say
Lee's Jouis
You know
Yeah or you can wear
The Victoria Secret
Sweatpants
on the butt. It just says Lees Jouise on the buddy. That's nice. And you're looking over your shoulder
like this. I like that. Or we do a copper tone where you're wearing a bikini and there's a dog
grabbing your back of your swim bottoms. And it's like you see your butt crack. And then you have a
tramp stamp that says Lees Jouis. Ooh, even better. Even better. I like that. I got to start doing
some squads for that.
But I'm, uh, thank you, Jared.
Because usually that takes forever to come up with those.
I just got you eight specials here.
No, I appreciate that.
I just got to write them now.
You have a plethora of special names now.
She's begging for it.
I kind of like the idea of,
of you guys, uh, naming my next special and I got to write something to make
sense to it.
Like Lee's, Lees, Louise.
Yeah.
Now I kind of wish where there was another one.
I'll think about that.
Also is your hat drying?
it's still a little wet.
I could not believe you didn't just get a different hat.
I didn't have another hat.
If you weren't listening to the last episode,
Charlie was in full clothes in the lake and his hat got wet.
I was hand fishing for sunnies.
But anyways,
he wore the wet hat to the bar,
which is a crazy move.
Well,
my hair,
I didn't shower this morning because of my hair was a little hour.
I know, but I have like 15 hats you could have wore to this.
Well,
you saw me dip that hat in the water.
I didn't hear you offering me a hat.
how about I wear your hat you wear my hat for this why would I do that that's like the worst
trade ever please jewees Charlie please jewees miles let's do it let's take some callers what do you
say Charlie hi miles by late july every cabin owner and lake goer is operating on pure confidence
I've been there I've been operating on peer confidence I've seen your prop miles yeah people
know the route by heart they're making the trip every weekend and that's usually when they
stop paying attention.
You're doing more time looking for deer than looking at the road in front of you.
Facts.
Factuals.
We're talking narrow roads, busy intersection, lots of boats, lots of trailers, and drivers
who think that they can shave a few minutes off the trip home.
And then you know what happens.
All it takes is one mistake from someone else and a normal cabin weekend suddenly isn't so normal.
No.
It's abnormal, in fact.
And if accidents happen this lake season,
call Nicolay Law.
They're ready to help you.
1855, ladies and gents.
Nicolay.
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there and uh we'll see you soon hello it's just a bellied-up podcast this is the bellied-up
podcast is this tim uh yes sir it is how you doing mr mile i'm doing good how i got charlie here
with me too.
Tim, are you calling from...
Hey, Mr. Charlie.
Hey, Mr. Charlie.
Hey, Tim, are you coming from like France or something?
No, sure, no, sir.
Alabama.
Alabama.
Man, that...
I would have never guessed.
That's a nice accent you got there.
And the town I live in, we are world famous for the very first place that a 911
phone call was ever made.
No.
Look it up on Google.
Look it up on Google.
What's the town?
Haleyville.
Haleyville.
Home of the first 911 phone call.
Do we know what the phone call was for?
No, it was just a senator calling the telephone company just to do the deal.
But they set up the very first 911 phone line.
Wow.
That's got to make you feel proud of where you're from.
Oh, yeah.
We're getting ready next week to have a big 911 festival here in town.
I love that.
And it's good to know that that doesn't just happen in the Midwest.
No,
it's good to know you guys are doing that down in Alabama as well.
Oh, exactly.
And we've got a pretty big country singer coming down.
Who's that?
Aaron Tipping.
Okay, nice.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's going to be doing,
he's going to be the main act up on state.
No kidding.
How many people you expect them to come to that 911 festival?
Pretty close to a thousand.
Okay.
A thousand?
Yeah, somewhere around that number.
Holy smokes.
And do you guys,
do you guys have a thing where you play the top 10 911 phone calls from that year?
No, no.
Does anyone win like a 911 award?
Yeah, we have big parade.
We have the car shows, the tractor shows,
a bunch of beef set up, big old Boston butt smoking contest.
deal there.
A Boston butt smoking contest?
Yeah.
You're going to have to explain.
I don't know a Boston butt.
Well, it's basically barbecue.
But you put it in a big old smoking machine.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
I thought that was for a second, just people who did squats and smoked from the East Coast.
No, sir.
No, sure.
Okay.
All right.
But, uh, Mr.
Oh, I'm sorry.
I was going to ask, uh, Mr. Miles, how do I find your,
stand-up comedy on
YouTube.
Yeah,
I've been looking for that too,
Miles.
How do we find that?
I don't do stand-up comedy,
believe it or not.
So you're not missing anything.
Oh,
man.
I know.
I know.
I got a kid.
Well,
yeah.
I understand.
Yeah.
You can find Mr.
Charlie's by just
searching neighborly on YouTube
and it pops right up.
Oh, yes, sir.
I've watched both a year or so far.
Oh, my gosh.
We've got two of them on YouTube.
Oh,
Okay, well, here let's maybe pitch a couple of special names that may be for future that we, so we were actually talking about Charlie's potential specials in the future trying to help come up with names.
So you did, you did neighborly.
Yeah.
You did.
What was the first one?
That was old fashioned.
Goodbye.
It was, yeah, Midwest goodbye.
Yeah.
And that's something else I wanted to talk to y'all about.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Is Michigan considered the Midwest?
Absolutely, yeah.
Michigan's considered the Midwest.
Okay, because I got a friend that lives in Michigan, and me and him, I was saying,
I don't think Charlie Barron's and them think y'all are Midwest or not.
I like that you brought it up like that.
But yeah, no, I mean, Michigan is connected to Wisconsin.
And although that part should be part of Wisconsin, I won't go into that now.
But yeah, Michigan is very much a part of the Midwest.
Have you ever thought about that the UP is kind of just like a leach attached to Wisconsin at the top?
You know, have you ever thought about it like that?
I've never thought about it like that.
You should use that as ammo next time you're talking to someone from Michigan.
They'll love if you tell them that they're a bunch of leeches.
You want me to take it kind of the other way?
Yeah.
Yeah, all right.
All right.
Sucking all the blood on you guys.
That's.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, hey, that's the same way with the Canada.
They should be part of the U.S.
So you're pro 51st state then?
Yes, sir.
Okay.
All right.
Tim, what do you do for a living?
Well, right now I'm disabled because I got a traumatic brain injury.
Okay.
All right.
Sorry about that.
TBI.
Oh, no, that's all right.
I was working at a Walmart and had a real serious accident.
Oh, geez.
What happened?
Well, I was climbing the tallest ladder we had in the store,
getting a mountain bike off the ceiling.
and we had them hanging on S hooks.
Uh-huh.
And when it came down on me, it went one way.
I went to other way, and I hit my head on the corner of a wooden pallet.
Oh, my God.
I had to have four staples put in my head.
Oh, man.
Dang.
But I was talking to the nurses just like I'm talking to y'all.
And they were like, wow, okay, well, at least we know you can talk.
Yeah, that's good.
You should give Nicolet Law call.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, that's been many years ago.
That was around 2008, 2009.
I think the statute of limitation is passed or whatever.
Yeah.
I tried to talk to several lawyers about it.
And none of them were able to help you out, huh?
No, because it's been too far, been too long ago.
Dang.
Damn.
Oh, sorry about that.
Oh, no, that's all right.
I just, I'm doing what I'm, I'm doing the best.
there.
So yeah.
That's all you can do.
It's all you do.
That's accurate.
And listening to old
Charlie Barron stand up
where I can laugh there.
Well,
geez.
How far are you from Birmingham,
Tim?
About 100 miles.
100 miles?
Is that too far
of a drive for you?
No,
not really.
All right.
Well,
I'll hook you up
with two tickets
to my show
coming up in Birmingham
if you want it.
Okay.
I'd have to have a way
to pay in cash
because I don't have
a credit card or net.
Tim,
Cash is no good at my shows.
Come on, you know that.
Yes, sir.
Thank you.
The tickets will be waiting for you at Will call.
We'll just have you text, Jared, your full name.
And I'll have two tickets waiting there for you.
Two tickets.
Okay, good, because I'm going to have to have a friend drive me down there
because the doctors don't want me driving because of my seizures.
Oh, because of traumatic brain injury.
So that's.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, that's good that you're doing too.
why don't you it's good oh yeah you want more tickets there tim no sir uh as far as i know i
ain't really got nobody else that really wants to go down to birmingham i mean it's a little bit
of a rough place down there is it okay well shoot i mean dang i didn't know i thought uh
that doesn't sound very neighborly no and i was down there a couple years ago it seemed fun but
you know what do you know well there's certain ports
I guess of Birmingham that are rougher than downtown.
Okay.
We just say downtown is like that.
Is your show downtown?
Sure is downtown.
Yeah.
But you know,
Tim,
you can look it up on my website when the show is and where it's at.
Either way,
we'll put two tickets there for you.
And there's the thing.
Like,
if you are scared to like,
you run into some rough crowd over there,
like you can turn the tickets down.
Yeah,
you don't,
you don't have to go.
No,
no, I'm good.
It's in downtown Burrower.
I'm good.
Okay.
All right.
We'll get you locked in.
You just text your full name after this and we'll be locked and loaded.
So what are you up to today, Tim?
I went and paid bills today and stuff.
Just got my disability check and everything and had to pay some bills.
Okay.
All right.
Nice.
So you're feeling all dialed in, huh?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Tim, what do you like to do for fun?
Oh, I love to watch movies, go out and hunt and fish.
Damn, just go out and enjoy nature.
I love that.
You big bass fisherman?
Oh, I love bass fishermen.
Is that your favorite species to catch?
Well, mostly I catch drum, but yeah.
Okay.
Bass.
Drum is like one of the trash fish of the water.
You're kind of unlucky to catch that.
But they put up a good fight those drums.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Nice.
Oh, yeah.
What do y'all catch up there in Wisconsin?
Well, today I was trying to catch some sunfish by hand.
Oh.
I was noodling for them.
Oh, I've seen that stuff.
I don't know if I'd be brave enough to be doing noodling.
Well, I wasn't really noodling.
I was just trying to catch him by hand.
But noodleing is a whole intense thing.
You stick your arm in there and then let God handle the rest.
Exactly.
Yes, sir.
yes but i think one of my ideas i called in about one of them days was uh how in the world does y'all's
plum and deal with all that cheese and stuff y'all eat that's a really good question tim that's a
really good question and the plumbing uh you know it really just relies on a little coleslaw so
sometimes the uh it gets backed up you know uh the toilets here but if you just flush a little coleslaw down
that breaks it up real good.
I thought you eat coal slah, so then it like levels out.
Yeah, that's kind of what I was thinking.
I thought you're getting some fiber in there, but no, you actually just flush
coal slough down the pipes.
Yep, it works the same way it does in your pipes, actually, and it'll just keep everything
moving, you know.
Well, okay, cool.
I was like I was hearing y'all talk about a lot of cheese curds and stuff like that.
Stuff like that.
I don't know all the cheese stuff.
y'all got a pair but yeah have you ever been up north tim i've been to michigan one time i lived up
a pair one year oh what'd you think of it well the winter wouldn't for me i bet not i bet not what
were you doing up there in michigan uh i was just living up there for about a year that's been
uh late 90s okay all right were you working at uh just living not working at a walmart or anything
No, I was in school.
I was like in middle school maybe.
Okay.
Something like that.
I went to the community school and then they moved me to the big city school in Detroit, Michigan.
And I was only, we'll just say, I was of a different ethnicity.
I got you.
Than everybody else in the school.
I'm picking up what you're putting down, Tim.
Oh, yeah.
I'm trying to be politically correct.
Yeah, I think you did a good job.
I think you.
Yes.
Yeah, you locked it in.
And so just one year up there and then you went back down to Birmingham, huh?
Well, Haleyville.
Yes, sir.
Or I'm sorry, I've been to Alabama.
I was talking more generally, but Hayetteville.
Haleyville.
The closest biggest city to us is Huntsville.
Huntsville, okay, just short.
Rocket City.
Yeah, Rocket City.
Rocket City, Huntsville.
Okay.
Yeah, we talked to a guy.
We actually talked to a guy on this podcast who makes rockets in Huntsville.
Right?
Oh, yeah.
That was the George Kennel episode.
Yeah, with George Kennel.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
We, uh, they're doing big stuff with the government down there would be like a space program and stuff.
They're building a whole new facility down there and stuff.
Would you go live in space, Tim?
Uh, probably not.
Yeah.
That'd be a tough sell, I think.
Yeah.
Uh, no, I'm pretty used to being down here.
Yeah.
I don't know why you have Earth with all the cool stuff we have here and you look up at the moon,
which is pretty barren.
And you're like, what if we go live up there, you know?
Oh, yeah, exactly.
It's like looking at the Taj Mahal and saying, what if we go lived in that shack down by the river, you know?
Yeah, exactly.
But I love also them light cabins and stuff.
We got around here and stuff.
We got.
You got lake cabins down there too, huh?
Oh, yes, sir.
Down around Smith Lake, Alabama, well, it's a rich, rich part of the area and stuff.
A lot of big mansion-type lake houses and stuff down there and stuff.
Yeah, is that old money down there, Tim, or new money?
Yeah, basically old money.
Yeah.
Okay.
Where is that old Alabama money come from?
well i'm not really for sure probably more likely coal mining more more likely coal mining
why what do you think i was missing miles oh i was thinking what miles was thinking yeah what i ain't
going to talk about it on air because i don't want to offend oh yeah they got plantation right okay okay
all right all right the cotton industry we just we can put this literally just we can ask someone
Where the old money from Alabama came from.
Stop, stop.
We can put this.
Put this in Charlie's worst bits.
Put this in Charlie's brain fart.
That was such a dumb question.
Wow.
I am an idiot, Tim.
Holy smokes.
Hey, that's all right.
We're probably around the same age.
I'm pretty close to y'all's age.
I think.
I'm around 37 euro.
37.
Charlie's older than you are.
I'm older than you are.
Oh, okay.
Did you think that he was older or younger than you, Charlie?
I thought y'all were my age.
Tim, you know, you got, you got an accent that you could put you anywhere from 27 to 75.
Hey, hey, that's fine with me.
Are you in Roll Tide country or are you in Auburn?
Yes, sir.
Roll Tide Row.
Okay.
All right.
All the way, all the way.
The war eagle was a bad word in my house.
Okay, good to know. Good to know.
Oh, yeah. But also for NFL, and I'm probably going to make Charlie mad with this,
and he'll probably take away the tickets.
But don't tell me you're a Bears fan, Tim.
Yes, sir. Unfortunately.
Why?
Because my mom from Chicago, Illinois.
Okay. All right. Well, you got a familial tie, and you can't, some things you can't,
you can't help some things you're born with and i guess that's it you know there are there is time
in your life to make you know make amends make amends start a new life decision oh yeah but i don't know
if i could be a cheesehead or not i mean i don't know you got a lady in your life there tim uh yeah
i got one i've been talking to and stuff all right yeah where's she from uh she's from around here
Haleable.
We got several small towns around here, but Haleville's like the biggest in this area and stuff.
But yeah.
Either way it goes, she's from here and stuff.
We go to movies every once in a while and go out to eat and stuff like that.
Oh, yeah.
Are you going to maybe take her to the Charlie Barron show?
Well, I was thinking about it, but I also got one of my good friends that he likes comedy quite a bit, too.
There we go.
yeah she she's she works all time instead of so yeah what is she do she is in the paper industry down
here okay there you go what what does that what does that mean she's we're going at the paper plant
like paper mill yeah the paper mill okay they basically make printer paper paper it's a booming business
it's a dying business actually doesn't it smell really yeah
It is a dying business, but also I've also got one of my brothers that works at a paper plant that they print up like the beer containers, like that holds the beer and stuff in it.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
They make the cardboard for all that stuff like that.
Well, that ain't going away.
No.
Oh, no, definitely not.
My beer choice is cooers.
Coors, banquet beers.
Is it because you just say it's so cool, you know?
Coors.
well hey i got that from old smoky and the bandit version there you go um all right this next
segment is called uh charlie barrens tries a southern accent to a southerner and tim's going to
judge charlie's southern accent wow okay all right we do this every time we have a southerner on
tim are you okay with charlie uh doing a southern accent and then you telling them how good bad or
otherwise it is oh yeah give it your best shot charlie well how are you doing there tim
uh that that was okay y'all doing all right down there tim yeah i think you need to spend a
little bit more time down here and then you'll get damn i thought that was okay miles you try give
give him a phrase to say maybe it's a phrase he's not getting right give him a southern phrase
just try saying y'all y'all y'all say it again tim y'all y'all yeah you're you're doing all right with it yeah
you're doing all right with it yeah how is that tim yeah yeah that was that tim yeah maybe i should
just try to emulate you tim yeah it's actually working pretty good yeah even have me up on stage it can actually
Oh, yeah.
We'll go down to Birmingham, about 100 miles from Haley'sville,
and we'll get up on stage with that old Chuck Bob Barron's
and have ourselves a root and tooting time.
How is that?
That's right.
We'll get her done down there.
Tim, what do you think of Miles' southern accent there?
He was pretty good, too.
Yeah.
Let's go.
Tim's got that Midwest polite.
Now, Tim, I want you to do.
a Midwestern accent. I'd love to hear your
Oh, yeah. Let's say here.
Well, don't you know, well, not hold on here.
Say, oh, yeah, you bet you watch out for deer.
Oh, yeah, you bet you watch out for deer.
Getting there.
You got to really hold on to the o's, Tim.
Yeah, we're all about the bowels here.
Oh, yeah, you betcha, watch out for deer.
Tim, you're almost a Midwesterner, dude.
That was pretty good.
I'd love to go up here and spend some time.
Yeah, we'll get you up there, Tim.
That'd be fun.
We'll get you tickets to every single one of Charlie Barron's show.
You can just travel.
Y'all have to buy me plane tickets, though, too.
Sure, you can be like my groupie.
There you go.
I'll be the guy that handles taking the money for your autographs
when people get you autographs at the show.
there you go you can just sign my autograph and just tell them it's been signed how's that sound you can start an own side business
yeah yeah uh i've been i've been looking for one of your shirts but i ain't found one of them yet
no well shoot maybe i'll bring you one when you come down to the show what size are you tim i'm a medium
medium all right or a medium yeah maybe you you know what's crazy to me is uh i knew a guy worked
for my dad and he would come up from southern illinois to work and did you know that your
alabama accent sounds a lot like the southern illinois accent even though you guys aren't even
that close together have you ever heard that before no i've never heard that no do you know people
from southern Illinois?
Yeah.
Southern.
Well, I used to, I used to work at a telephone company where we, it was a table company,
but we were the customer service for a cable company.
And the cable company was up north, like in the northern part of the states.
And it was called Wow, internet, cable, and phone.
Did y'all ever have that?
Wow.
No.
Yeah.
No.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, I talked to like all types of people.
from like Chicago and New York and Michigan and stuff like that.
They said, boy, your accent just calms us down so much because we're used to
rude people and all this and that, just especially the people from New York.
But just people are read up there according to people that live in New York.
Yeah.
I went to New York one time and I don't ever want to go back here.
What brought you up to New York?
But my senior trip, we went in school on our senior trip.
Anyways, I watched a New York City police officer fly through the air and tackle a street finger.
Wow.
That I was buying something off of.
I was buying something off the street finger.
And then the New York City police officer, all I heard was freeze.
Put your hands up.
So I just did what I was told.
And you dropped the bag of drugs?
No.
I dropped a DVD player, a portable DVD player.
Well, anyway.
That kind of a street vendor.
Bootlegging.
Yes, sir.
You're buying some of those guys.
I thought you were buying a hot dog or something.
You're a senior in high school.
You're in New York and you're buying, you're buying stolen DVD players.
I wouldn't ask me no question.
I don't know where it came from, what it was.
He just had it for a second.
How much was it?
You remember?
I can't even remember.
Did you get pinch for buying stolen merchandise?
No, sir.
Because the police officer came up beside me and told me to put my hands down.
And then I watched him like, fly out there like an NFL tackler or whatever and tackle that street vendor to the ground.
Wow.
That's impressive.
Yeah.
I was like, he just told me to get out of there.
Police officer told me that.
I was like, okay.
When I was in New York as a kid, I was maybe 12 or something.
My parents bought bootleg movies off of a street vendor out of a suitcase.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And I remember when we got home, we popped in the Polar Express on the DVD player.
And the audio was a little funky.
And all of a sudden, you know, about a third of the way in,
all of a sudden we see a human just stand up.
We see a shadow of someone walking in front of the screen.
Oh, yeah.
So we bought,
we bought pirated DVDs that someone recorded the movies in the movie theater because we're like,
you can't even get these on DVD yet.
How do you have them?
Yeah, the pirated DVDs I bought was the ones that had like the numbers at the bottom of the screen.
Oh, yeah.
You can tell it was like it wasn't a real movie or whatever.
It was like a print of somebody else's film or.
something like that. You had the time codes at the bottom? Yeah, that's what it had. It had like a time
code. Wow. Those were like stolen by the editor of the film. Yeah, I guess so, but I bought
them off some guy in New York. I was like, okay. But we had, we had one street vendor that
tried to steal purses back from one of our teachers that was buying purse. He was selling
like fake Louis Vuitton and all that stuff down there.
And anyways, he hired a little kid to go around
and steal the bags back from the customers that bought them.
That's a good racket, actually.
Yeah.
Also, let's not go past the fact that your teacher is the chaperone on this trip,
and she's buying fake Louis Vuitton purses.
Well, wait until you hear the scheme she came up with.
Oh, yeah.
She found out that the kid was doing that.
So she called us all around her and was like, hey, y'all go, one of y'all go and buy purses like normal.
And the rest of y'all, while they're buying the purses, y'all go up and just start taking the purses from the street vendors' tables.
Your teacher was teaching you this.
Yes.
And gave us all big old 50-gallon, like heavy-duty trash bags to put them in.
We left with like 10 garbage bags.
Shut up, Tim.
Shut up.
Yeah, it was crazy.
This is some real Alabama shit here.
Well, hey, we wouldn't go get took.
I mean, that gone.
Yeah, and then he's like, you find out, you're like, yeah, I don't know.
It was, you know, it was just our quad annual trip to New York that we would do as a school, you know,
and the teacher's just running a racket, just getting kids to steal purses so she'd come back and sell them to
No, she only did it because the street vendor hired that kid to go steal the purchase from us.
I see.
I see.
Hey, you know, if they paid teachers more money, she wouldn't have had to find a side hustle.
I think she knew that was happening and was looking for an excuse.
Well, and plus it was her last year at the school anyways.
She was retiring at the end of the year.
So she gave, she had a case of us.
Senioritis.
Yeah.
Yeah, we were all seniors, the teachers and everything.
Yeah, and then in the tactical building, my congressman down here in Alabama got me in trouble out of trouble up there.
I had to go to the restroom, and the tour guy was being a smart elephant because I asked, where's the restroom?
And she pointed up to the sign and said, can't you read?
So I said, yes, ma'am, I can, and I went into the restroom.
I didn't think nothing else.
And when I came back out,
a secret service guy was waiting on me outside.
He's like, you got to come with me.
And I said, no, sir, I don't.
My mom said, don't go with strangers.
And I don't see no idea on you saying that you're a secret service.
So we sat there and argued about it for a little while.
And then my Congressman Ayrholt from Alabama, Robert Ayerholt,
he walked up and talked to the guy and then took me back to my group.
and everything.
Why?
Come to find out I went into a congressman's bathroom.
Got it.
Yeah.
He went to a congressman's bathroom on accident.
Oh, okay.
Well, yeah.
Secret service was like, was,
man,
they got like a penthouse for their,
they got them bathroom.
I mean,
it was fancy.
They don't even have,
they don't even have hand towels.
You use these thick napkins to wipe your hands and throw them.
No,
they had like embroidered,
hand towels in there and the whole nine yards,
leather couches,
black screen TVs on the wall,
gold fixtures and all this stuff.
That's where the tax money goes.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I've seen something I've seen, I guess.
Yeah.
I just thought of something.
You said you're from the home of the first 911 call, correct, Tim?
Yes, yes.
Charlie's got a bit in his special about,
we don't call 911 round here.
Yeah, we usually don't later down there.
We take care of it between each other.
Okay, because I was going to say it's like you guys actually do
because that's your whole schick, you know what I mean?
Oh, yeah.
Well, we got an official 911 phone call line set up,
but I don't know how much it gets you.
That's funny.
Home of the 911 Festival never calls 911.
one. Do you pack there, Tim? You're packing heat?
Pack. Yeah, you got a pistol on your person?
Oh, well, yeah. I mean, I can't have a gun, but yeah, they, we're allowed to have guns and stuff down here.
Got you, got you. Okay. Yeah, with the traumatic brain injury and whatnot.
Yeah. Can't have, yeah, they told me like, no, no, like, operating, heavy machinery or anything.
like ad or nothing like that i'm like well okay okay that makes sense but yeah luckily i've got good
people around here take me places and stuff that's great man do you have a bicycle uh yes or i do how do
you like riding that yeah it's pretty cool i don't wear the uh bicycle outfit that y'all talk about all
that's that's a big win there for you tim yeah you ever tried it on though just when no one's watching
No, no.
I ain't going to end up like Lance
on, so. Yeah, that's
how it happened. He was just wearing
too tight as shorts.
Yeah.
He lost a nut from blood circulation.
That was a rumor
going around there.
I wouldn't doubt it. I wouldn't
doubt it wouldn't be it.
Man.
But yeah, I can't wait to see you in
Birmingham, Mr. Charlie there.
Well, that sounds good, Mr. Tim.
looking forward to it and yeah maybe uh maybe i'll bring you a DVD player or something how does that
sound yes sir it'll have to be a blu-ray this time okay all right sounds good man well i'm looking
i'm looking forward to it and on your way there watch out for those deer okay yeah y'all watch out
for deer too now they'll just run out right in front of your car down here so all right well
sounds sounds good tim be good my guy
Yes, sir, y'all too, and catch you late.
All right.
See you.
I don't know, Miles. I thought my solar and accent was pretty guys darn good.
I love the attitude there.
I'm excited to meet him in person.
How's it going, guys?
It's going good, Pat, belly up to the bar.
Tell us what's on your mind.
All right, guys.
So we got a little predicament there with my cousin.
Oh, no.
Are you from Alabama?
No.
Okay.
No.
Just want to know what kind of predicament we're looking at here.
Well, so somebody wound up dead.
What?
On him in the dead dude's car.
Wait,
wait,
wait,
back to back,
back the carola up here.
How far are we going back?
So you said that you're,
who found who dead?
All right.
So my cousin was found in a dead guy's car
a few days after he was murdered.
Okay.
Well,
um,
got it.
But that's not good.
Not,
no,
it's not.
Not how you like to see it go down.
Yeah,
exactly.
You know,
did he kill him?
He can't tell me.
Oh,
yeah,
that's,
that's probably smart.
Yeah.
Yep.
So,
you know,
but my big of the commitment is that,
uh,
he helped me raise my kids here.
You know,
so I got a 14,
a 12,
and a 6 year old.
So it's,
uh,
kind of hard trying to explain them
that I can't really spend too much time with him or no more,
you know?
Yeah.
Oh,
That makes sense.
So, okay.
So they found him in a car, a dead guy's car.
Did the guy die in natural causes?
No.
Okay.
How do he die?
So the police report that I read because he can't tell me nothing, you know,
pretty much said that he was a crime of passion of some sort.
I don't know.
Blunt force trauma is what you're saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
think so. So, okay, so where is your cousin now? Is he, is he being charged with something?
Yep. Yeah, he got sentenced to 30 years down in Corpus Christi, Texas.
Oh, so he's, it's wang, bam, bam, thank you, ma'am, he's going away.
Yeah, it's been, yeah, it's been about two years since we found out. Oh, boy. That's tough. That's
really tough. We found out on my wedding day, too, which is really rough. Oh, geez, man. That's not how you want to write it.
close with this guy?
Oh, yeah.
So he moved in with me when I was like 12 years old.
He had a lot of problems growing up.
Like he ate a bunch of drugs when he was like three years old.
And it messed him up really bad.
He had a stutter.
Well, he still does.
But, you know, and people pick on him for it.
And, you know, a kid had a rough life in and out of foster homes and stuff too.
So.
Oh, boy.
But, yeah, he lived with me from when I was.
12 till about a year before he moved back down to Texas.
This is kind of rough.
So was he dating this person or was this person dating someone he was dating?
What I understand is that it was his grandpa's roommate.
But pockets had a tendency to just take off in people's cars.
Is he called pockets?
Yes.
It's been pockets since the day to have met him.
Why is that?
Why is that pockets?
I don't know.
That's just what I know.
He's real name is Dylan, but nobody calls, nobody who knows him calls him Dylan.
Got it.
The judge called him Dylan.
Yeah.
Yep.
Yep.
You know it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
Jeez.
So you're saying that you said he has a tendency to take off in people's cars.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I don't know exactly.
what that means.
Well, you know, if you leave your keys in your car and he's around and you're not using
it, he might.
Is his name pockets because you should put your keys in your pockets instead of in the car?
Maybe, maybe.
Yeah.
But, you know, got caught doing that a few times at like a Walmart, you know, downtown
Escanabo where we live.
But, yeah, you know.
But I didn't call just to share, you know, the bad part, say, we got to.
a few funny stories with them if you aren't.
Yeah, let's remember
pockets for it's. Let's remember the
good stuff. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, is it
insensitive for me to ask
if you think that he didn't?
To be honest,
I don't think he did,
but he doesn't talk. Like, he doesn't
speak to anybody.
No police officers, no nothing.
So this was
a guy that lived with his grandpa?
Yeah, he lived with his
his grandpa wood.
Grandpa wood's got real bad dementia, so he was taking care of him.
And then he just had a roommate, too, who is elderly as well.
Okay.
All right.
So he killed an elderly person?
That's what he's charged.
That's what he's charged in the sentence.
Yeah.
And before we do go down memory lane with pockets, I do want to...
What do you call it memory lane?
That's what he wanted to...
Mencha.
I put that on my good bit list.
I didn't even try.
I do want to just put it out there.
You want us to sit and remember the fun good times that you had with Pockets,
who is the guy who is put away in the clink for 30 years for murder.
Yeah.
Of an elderly person with dementia.
Well, no, no, no, no.
Grandpa Wood's still here.
Okay.
But his roommate.
The caretaker of your grandpa with dementia.
No, no, no, no, just the roommate.
Just the roommate, okay?
Who did not have dementia?
I didn't know, hey, I didn't talk to him that whole year that he was in Texas because he didn't, you know.
Yeah.
But when he got mental issues, a little hard to keep a falling on you on and all that other stuff.
So just, I just want to say that.
That's, you want us to start talking about all the good memories with the guy.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
He saved my life a few times.
Let's talk about that.
Let's talk about saving your life.
Save my life.
Actually, so I'm a bud tender in an nominee, Michigan,
even though I live up, you know, about an hour away from there.
But if he wouldn't have been in my life,
I wouldn't be able to hold the job there or the nursing home that I'm at
because I had a little booger sugar problem back in the day.
Okay.
He went and told him it was his.
and kept my record clean and
Oh, okay.
Help me raise, you know,
and then after doing all that,
sit in time for stuff for me,
he still came and helped me raise my kids, you know?
Yeah, I imagine there's got to be some,
a little bit of guilt with that, right?
I mean, basically it sounds like he did time for you.
Oh, yeah, yep.
I mean, I paid for everything.
You know, I paid all the fines.
I did all the, you know,
helped them with the, you know, classes and stuff that came with it because it was like
maybe $1,500 and fines with his probation.
So, you know.
So, yeah, I mean, this is like, for you, this is an emotional, like, like, roller coaster.
You know what I mean?
Like, I mean, are you in therapy?
No.
You know, we don't recommend therapy on this podcast very much.
We usually tell you, just go talk to your bar.
bartender, but I mean, you might benefit from talking to someone about it.
And I don't know if Charlie and I are equipped for that.
But here we are, Miles.
But here we are.
We're going to give it the old college try.
Yep.
Yep, yep.
I got you.
I'm not, you know, I got a, I got conflicting feelings about it.
And, you know, but I kind of called to give you some fun stories.
Okay.
So, yeah, this kid and me, you know, I've known him since I was 12 years old.
we started choking the smot, you know what I mean, back when I was really young.
What?
Do you know what that means?
I don't know if that.
No, what is it like together?
Poking the smart.
Poking smart, you know, like Giggle Bush.
Nope.
Oh, oh, he's poking smart.
Yes.
He's smoking pot.
Oh, okay.
Kind of like Lee's Jouis.
I thought you guys, I thought you guys were exploring each other.
Oh, poking spot.
Poking smart.
Yep.
Poking smart.
That's what we say back in the day.
Got it.
But yeah.
So.
Okay.
But so we,
we would make bombs and play Super Mario Brothers for what,
maybe like five,
six hours at a time.
That's six.
We made a zippo bong.
So you take a can of zippo lighter fluid once you use it all up.
You take the top off and you put a trumpet mouthpiece on there.
Yep.
few straws and you got a nice little, just all stuff you just got laying around the house.
Yeah, I was 14.
He was 17, you know.
The amount of chemicals in that concoction, you just, are you sucking on the top of the Zippo bottle?
Well, no, no, it's empty.
I know it's empty, but the, you know, you rinse it out with a, you know, you rinse it out with some water.
Never mind.
My bad.
Some salt, you know.
Yeah, you don't go right for it, guys.
Yeah.
Because it's a little flammable in there, too.
you might.
Yep.
So you got the bottle, the trumpet mouthpiece.
Was there another portion that I'm missing?
Just a straw, you know, a straw to, you know, to pull the air out.
Oh, there you go.
Yeah.
That's creative.
It looked like a little hookah.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
That wasn't the only one.
We broke two bongs and glued, super glued them together.
So we had like two places to light it, you know, that was, that was entertaining.
But he used to have a house where I go sell weed.
and I'd come over there with like maybe a pound, half pound sometimes.
I'd leave it like maybe an ounce or so.
But they'd go ahead and we'd smoke all there.
Well, one time we had a big party and this girl was there.
And she'd been drinking a lot.
And we woke up in the morning.
And I saw her go to this.
So they had broken the toilet there.
And they just left it in the hallway.
And someone put a captain,
Morgan bottle there, right?
So it turns out it was pockets.
Someone was in the bathroom.
It filled up the bottle secondarily.
You know what I'm saying?
Pockets pissed in the Captain Morgan bottle.
That I figured.
You were looking at me like you didn't know what he's saying.
And then this girl, she must have been having a real bad hangover or something.
She went ahead and picked her up and gave her a fat swig.
Oh my god
and she screams
I hear him come half
half naked out of his room
he's like oh
I put it in the toilet so nobody drink it
like that was
like that was the
level of intelligence
that at that house for a little while
wow I mean
hey talk about the memories man
we are
we are really
going down memory lane
It's weird that you ended up being a bud tender later on in life.
I would have not pinned you for a bud tender.
No, honestly, I'm a, I'm a word-winning cannabis extractor too.
Wow.
Are you?
What award did you win?
The high times cannabis cup.
Holy smokes, did you really?
The cannabis industry isn't real.
20, 23 in Michigan, it was the first one that they let people like choose.
Yeah.
They voted me in and, you know, I got her.
So people's choice.
So what makes you.
have that good kush what's the key good oh honestly you know the big the big thing that makes a big
difference is going to be how like wet the stuff is when you're on it you want to run or wet you don't
want to dry her out yeah spoken i've heard that before spoken like a true smart poker miles
oh yeah well you know there's uh there's a there's a lot of
Turpine loss when you dry your plant out, you lose in about 90% of your chirpines.
Are you?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
And then so if you run it live, you preserve all that.
And then the other cannabinoids that normally convert in like the processes.
So Delta 9 comes from THCA.
And if you process it sometimes during the purging process to get all the gas and stuff out of it.
you know, it's going to be a little bit less destructive to the product, if that makes sense.
That makes total sense.
So you are the guy.
When you purge the THCA with the Delta 9 and the gas.
No, you purge the gas out of the-
-lis- Listen, my bad.
So you're kind of the reason that people go around saying, you know, the pot these days,
it's not like the pot I was smoking in high school.
honestly we say that but like in a well the pot in high school was actually way better
why so most of the stuff i was getting was from my family so i'm actually third generation for this
but like we use organic methods to grow everything good for you and then we wouldn't
dry anything either there you go so you're you're used to the good stuff oh yeah oh yeah always have
then. So it's a family business. Was your grandpa then? Yep, my grandpa still grows. Good for him.
Yom, yep, yep. My uncle's all grow. I got six of them. Nothing like your, nothing like your
bunch there, Charlie, though. No, but no one's growing pot in my family. Yet, yet. Yeah. So here's a question.
Has it helped the family business or hurt the family business that it's like legal now and a lot of
places. So it, you know, we don't sell what we used to. We don't grow what we used to, but at the
same time, we're not in it for the business. We've always kind of been in it for the, it's a bonding
aspect. There's a lot of other things going on there too. Like just getting high. No, no, not just
that, you know, we have to prep all the plants. We got to make the teas. We got to have, you know,
animals around that you got to take care of to have fertilizer and stuff.
You know, we don't just grow pot.
Right.
No, I know, but do you sell it?
Not anymore.
Because as soon as it went legal, you guys stop selling it.
Pretty much, yeah.
Just lost all your profit margins, you know?
Well, I mean, but that, you know, we're still growing at home and having,
we're allowed to have a lot more than we used to, which is really nice.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Is Delta 8 really as bad as every gas station makes it seem?
Okay.
So to be honest, Delta 8 is a different isomer of a THC.
So it all comes from THCA for the most part.
Now, the big difference between the two is there's like a different angle on the chemical
tail that doesn't produce the psychedelic effect.
so how
when you take Delta 8
though you feel like you're
I mean some of that stuff's
kind of strong what is the chemical
they're putting in it well there
might be a up to
10% by weight
of Delta 9 or THCA
which will get you hot
okay
got it's yeah
it's kind of like you can have
0.5 grams of sugar
in a drink but if it's not a
full gram of sugar they can just
put zero grams on the bottom.
Exactly.
Exactly.
I mean,
that's also, like,
it's 0.03%
of the weight that's federally legal.
So, like,
you know,
say you have a,
uh,
something that weighs a thousand grams.
You're only allowed to have,
um,
like 0.003 of a milligrams of THC in that.
Got it.
Make sense?
Yep.
Yeah.
But I mean,
uh,
you know,
on a cookie or something,
that ain't nothing.
yeah okay all right sorry i'm walking around on macan island so i'm a little out of uh out of breath
oh that's okay it's not the weed you've been smoking your whole life huh no actually i you know i don't
have too many problems with that i get allergic asthma really bad though from other things like if i
go out in the woods for too long yeah i promise yeah no that's uh that's fun so um yeah you do you talk to uh
much these days?
Yeah, I talk to him about once every two weeks.
Does, okay, here's a question.
Yeah.
What, is he in a prison in Texas?
Yep.
Okay, maybe we'll have to expand our chapter of prison pals, Jared, Texas.
Well, so that's what really hurts, too, is that, like,
if nothing's free to communicate, like, I can't even send him a letter in the mail,
which would still cost, you know, a few bucks in an envelope, but,
You know, like every call of like $15.
Yeah.
I mean, no one can send mail for free.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But no, yeah, it's just real hard with the having to pay for every little thing.
And then on top of that, you know, it's just me and my little brother that pretty much take care of them.
You know, we send them $50 when we can here and there.
Yeah.
Oh.
You know.
Yeah, that's, that's tough, man.
Oh, yeah.
When you said it was a murder of passion, though.
Like, so I don't know, like, there were no weapons.
There was nothing, like, I guess.
It was just, like, maybe he hit his head on something.
I don't know.
But, I mean, were they, was he with his girlfriend or something?
No.
So, okay.
Now, my honesty got there, because, dude, I've seen pockets get his ass beat hard.
And wake up in the morning after, you know, letting the dude beat.
ass and then get up and party with them the whole next day no problem like they were like nothing ever
happened and like my little brother um i don't know what happened there and neither one of them will tell me
but one time um my little brother cole um who's even younger to me is like 10 years young in pockets
they got into a disagreement or whatever um Cole showed up at my house covered in blood from you know
to the nose to the tits, you know, covered in blood.
And I'm like, what the hell is going on, dude?
He said he's in the alley, go find him.
And he busted his nose, his jaw, cheek, and his leg, and just left him there.
Left pockets, sir?
Yeah, left pockets there bleeding, all busted up and, you know,
it'd, like, beat the hell.
And, you know, about a week later, they were talking to each other and fine, you know.
so I don't really think you did it.
So I think that he was running around.
My brother did it?
No, my brother was,
my brother's up here in Michigan.
He's a different story.
Oh my God.
Pockets took the fall for you.
Do you think pockets took the fall for someone else down there in Texas?
Yeah,
that's kind of a possibility.
You know, track record being there,
he's not a violent guy.
He's never hit me.
We've had our fights and stuff,
but you know and him and my brother like like I said he left him bloody broken and uh they're fine
like they still like he still talks to him both they talk more than I do to him right now because
close has got more free time I'm working three jobs so what does the court say happened you know
obviously got sentence and all that what do they say happen I haven't been able to get the FOIA
um on that yet I'm trying to um it's going to
cost like 500 bucks for all the court papers and evidence and stuff like that.
Okay.
You guys hear the horses in the background?
Is that what those are?
Yep.
Name.
Here's one.
Oh, there it goes.
I hear the clackin.
Clickety clacky,
there's a snort.
Are you getting a carriage ride right now?
Nope.
They're just walking.
Okay.
Are you an Amish country?
No.
No, I'm on Mackin' Isle.
Macon Is that you've ever been there?
no it's up in Michigan
hey also
talking about I'm a uper
you guys ain't ever coming this way
or yeah
it sounds like the place to be man
really is
I gotta run this by you
as a uper Charlie was going on
earlier about how basically
the UP is just a leech on top of Wisconsin
I didn't say this at all
hey hey hey hey I didn't say it
do not do not don't tell your brother
okay
I said
oh go ahead
no I said I wish it was part of Wisconsin
Miles called it a leech on Wisconsin
no I just if you look at it kind of looks
like that if
if we didn't if you guys had
legal lead I would push to be part of Wisconsin
to be honest
well
it's too late for that
I know legal work everything
yeah give us time we need a few people
to get less bribes and then we'll
We'll have it happen.
Hey, I've been telling people, do you get that tavern?
Like, to be the only people who can sell it.
Oh, yeah, that's probably what it would take, honestly.
But it's a good idea, right?
It's something.
I'd rather have something than nothing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you have made quite the case for the legal weed in Wisconsin.
What are you doing?
Are you there up there with your family, taking a little vacation?
Yeah, my, my, my, my, my,
oldest, my daughter and my middle son.
They're both Boy Scouts and they work
Macon Island every year.
This is Miranda's fourth year and this is James's
second year. Okay. Is the wife up there with you? Hold on. Are they letting
girls into the Boy Scouts now or she doing girls? Yeah, bro. Don't like to be honest
I'm really proud of her because she's almost an Eagle Scout already. Wow.
No, I just, that was actually a genuine question. I didn't know if they were doing
that now. Yeah. And, and
I had little problems with it, but when she was in Girl Scouts, it was just boring.
They were selling stuff and learning out of, like, dance and stuff.
Yeah, oh, yeah, I do.
Girl Scouts sucks.
Okay.
I mean, they got great cookies.
They got great cookies.
But, you know, the Scouts could just start selling those, too.
Yeah, nobody buys Boy Scout popcorn anymore.
Boy Scout.
The Boy Scouts put zero creativity into their sales.
Yeah
It's not about selling stuff
It's about making those little cars
You know
Yeah
Yeah
Oh
All right
So they just call it the scouts now
Yes
Yeah scouting of America
Which is not a good initial
Because it's just SA
S OA
No just SSA
SSA
What's the other meaning for SA?
sexual assault.
Oh, got it.
So I'm not happy with that, but
they got to do something.
Yeah, that's like old school boy scouts
right there. Now I need to know.
They're not called the Boy Scouts anymore.
Didn't know that.
Yep. Yeah, that's pretty new
in the last like five years.
Okay. I'll tell you what, in Fargo, there's
a Boy Scouts. I think it says
Boy Scouts on the outside of the building.
They got like an unbelievable
building in Fargo. Have you seen that?
by the YMCA on 42nd Avenue in the interstate, Jared.
Yeah, it's off the interstate, right?
I mean, they must be slinging popcorn and looking at that building.
I don't know if it's HQ or what, but it's so nice.
I got to see this, dude.
They got like a giant lookout there that's like, it's fancy.
Really?
Yeah.
Wow.
I bet you can only get there by compass.
No, you can just put that.
I have a Jeep compass.
so I get there.
Oh, you got a Jeep?
He does get there by Compass.
That's pretty cool.
That's actually a good bit, Jared.
That is a good bit.
You get everywhere by Compass.
Don't need a GPS.
Dude, you can do a crazy commercial for Jeep.
That would be great.
Yeah, not a sponsor, by the way.
Not a sponsor.
Not yet.
Well, do you think we did a good job honoring pockets here?
A little bit.
Yeah, yeah, no.
I mean, I really just want to talk with you guys.
I've listened to every episode.
I'm trying to go through the
you bet you backlog trying to hit up cripecast where i uh find interesting people
oh nice man i got to do more episodes it sounds like yeah weren't you gonna turn it in
something like an old-fashioned interview was that what i was yes yes and i am working on it i am just
busy uh right now uh at the bar so yeah no i get you i'm about to walk into a bar here after we
have to be in the call because it's busy and those holy crap guys he's macanao bars are packed
like how your kids are doing police scouts and you're just cruising the bars are you there
just i'm just cruising you know stopping at one every once in a while you laugh like a bud dealer
i want to tell you that oh buddy if you saw me you'd be like oh yeah this dude smokes the pot
gauges tattoos no no no no i'm just a charliebby happy to do with a big beard yep yep big beard
Yeah.
Okay.
I run around.
I have a bong in my car at all times.
That's no joke.
We didn't think that was a joke.
From what we've learned about you, that seems spot on.
That's a boy scout and you.
Always be prepared.
They're scouts now.
They're not four scouts.
Well, he was a boy scout.
I was.
It could have been a Girl Scout.
We don't know.
You never know.
No.
No, thank you.
Well, listen, hey, everyone has their good days and their bad days.
Yeah.
And so we talked about a couple of pockets.
Bad things and a couple of good things.
Yeah.
There's always multiple sides of the coin.
Okay.
If he actually, if he behaves the whole time, he'll be able to get out in 12.
Okay.
Do you think he can behave?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, definitely.
You know, he is, he's, honestly, he behaves better on probation than when he's just free person.
Yeah, I mean, that's probably how it should go.
Yeah, it's kind of the point of probation.
Well, I'd just rather him not have to do anything to be on probation, you know.
I mean, but in reality, it sounds like a guy who should just always be on probation and then he'll be on his best behavior.
Yeah.
Well, say, hey, so is my little brother.
He's, uh, he's on probation again.
He's finally behaving.
and so those those i just think you guys maybe just need to commit to you know let's just here
how about this yeah you call family meeting in 12 years when pockets gets out and you guys go
hey even if we're not on probation let's just all pretend like we're on probation yeah exactly
yeah yeah y'all got to y'all got to be here you know for the you know because these the dude
these kids are the ones that are kind of hurting from you know i'm i know the realities you know i know i know
know life's always unpredictable with him so but the kids just fucking like last week jamie my
youngest was like yo where's pockets and i was like well got some uh talking to do with you bud
did did you have that conversation with him yes and no i told him he's going to be gone for a
while but i didn't tell him i didn't tell him all the all the things that i told you guys pretty much
Probably for the best.
He's still never, you know,
Pocket still never said anything about it.
He's working down in Texas.
Yeah, yeah.
He's doing hard time.
He's doing hard work, hard work.
Yeah.
Hard work times.
Yeah.
But the older kids, you know, and they're, when, when he calls,
they try to come talk to him.
You know, I got so much to deal with with him.
because I, you know, I kind of, it's me and my little brother,
and we're the only ones that kind of take care of them, and it's a lot.
I take care of my grandpa, too.
So, like, I got a lot going on with all this.
You sure do, man.
Yeah.
I help take care of my grandpa.
I work at a hotel washing dishes.
I work at a nursing home, and I work down to my nominee.
So, yeah, I got a, I work like 90 hours a week sometimes trying to make sure everything's covered.
Holy smokes.
that's why he holy smokes that shit right there nice one
it's the only way to get through it good bit that can go in miles good bit container
jaron um well listen we're glad that you can take some time to get up to
maxnaisland and be with the family amid all the work and then chit chat with us and
you look at the digit uPS delivery person that was fucking hilarious um yeah there was a midget
delivering UPS just a few seconds ago.
That's not normal to see.
Oh, wow.
Okay, I think the preferred nomenclature is, well, unless you talk to Joe,
he prefers that, Joe, the mechanic.
Yeah, he prefers that.
Well, listen, we hope you have a good time down there and tell Pockets we say hi in your next letter.
I will. He actually does listen to the podcast too. And I just call him. It's not worth right. Nothing.
Deer pockets.
Yeah, it's really cool, actually. They gave him a tablet so he can look up like just be on Spotify and listen to you guys. So we kind of, that's how we.
Hey, shout out to pockets. There we go. All right. Nice. Well, thanks for calling in, man. We appreciate you.
Thank you guys for putting up on my shit.
And you guys have a good one tell your folks.
I say this is high.
And I'm about to belly up.
Okay.
All right.
Get after.
Hey, you tell your family to act like they're on probation now, okay?
Yes.
Yep.
Yep.
Tell them to act like they're on probation.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, you'd be good.
Wow.
That was a lot to process.
That was a lot.
You know, and pockets, if you took the fall for someone, it's not worth it, man.
It's not worth it.
Yeah.
I don't know.
That's a tough,
tough cookie to crumble there, Miles.
Yeah.
It's actually an interesting concept for a show, Charlie.
It really is.
The duality of man.
The good and bad side of pockets.
You got the good and the bad and the struggles,
the happiness,
the sadness,
the whole thing.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yep.
And, you know,
who are we to judge?
we're not a judge.
No, the judge judged.
I guess so.
And the judge found enough evidence.
Yeah.
Who should be the judges and juries of our society?
The judges and juries.
Put that on your good bit list.
All right, Miles.
So this was fun, man.
Another episode in the tank.
And yeah.
Make sure that you touch tips with your best friend.
Just like last episode.
Tip your bartender, folks.
We'll see you the next one.
Bye-bye.
Okay, hope you guys have a good one.
Goodbye now.
Udalooo.
