Bellied Up - Surviving Wisconsin as a Vegetarian #167

Episode Date: September 11, 2025

We’re at Burnsie’s in West Allis, WI for another episode! Our first caller (12:33) is debating getting engaged to his girlfriend—but the real issue is that really wants to hang out with her dad, who isn’t budging. Next, Russell from Nicolet Law stops by for a fun chat. Then, at (44:40), a Mennonite caller shares why he’s tired of being mistaken for Amish. Finally, at (53:36), a vegetarian caller needs advice on how to survive the food options at a classic Wisconsin wedding.Tap here for Prizepicks:https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/belliedup

Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Bellied Up podcast today. Bellion up, Bellion up, Billy on up to the bar. Bellied up at Burnsey's Bar and Grill here in West Dallas, Wisconsin. Right? We're West Dallas. Dallas, baby. Love West Dallas. Isn't that beautiful?

It's a great bar. We're on the little, what did you call it? What do they call this here? The hump. We're on the hump. My hump. My hump. My lovely.

Burnsy bump. Ooh, look at you. Check it out. So, yeah, it's a great bar. Great folks. I see some Packer stuff on the wall. I see some Wisconsin Badgers stuff on the bar. This is a great Wisconsin bar, Charlie.

We had some. Reggie White, the Minister of Defense, right up there with Brett Favreve, the Minister of Crockshot. So, you know, there's a whole deal going on here. We got darts. we got gambling games, pole tabs, Miles. We haven't done pull tabs in a while. I don't know.

They got a very good homemade artichoke dip here that the owner's wife makes. It is really good. To die over. Like, if I were to choke on that artichoke and not come back, I'd die a happy man. So, yeah.

I'll get to some pole tabs. I'll do that. Hold on. Let's, I forgot my wallet, though. Classic Charlie Barrens. yeah um speaking actually speaking of forgetting um charlie and i were having ourselves a nice dinner

could you turn me up a little bit i can't hear the the candor in miles's voice okay yes what's going on me and charlie we're having a nice dinner last night you know we both had uh the halibut little fish yeah you copied me i said you asked me what i was going to have and i said that you said that's what I'm going to have. So, um, but anyways, we're sitting there having dinner and Charlie just goes, oh, shit. Oh, yeah, I forgot about this. I didn't sit.

Well, maybe I did. And I'm like, oh, God, what is it now? Uh-huh. And Charlie just looks at me and he's like, I have to be at a show in 25 minutes and I have to go home and shower. So Charlie just got up and left. left me there with a half a halibut still on my plate. Well, would you rather I'd be late for the show? No, no, no.

You're right. You're right. And in my defense, I was going to pay for dinner. Yeah, classic. You probably faked it just so you can get out of paying for the dinner. Oh, no. I had a show last night. But it was, it was pretty funny because he left, the wait just came back and was kind of like,

where did he go? And I was like, yeah, he had some he had to leave. And she's like, is he okay? I was like, yeah, he's at the hospital right now. She was really worried that, like, you, like, had a stroke or something, and we had to, but I was still continuing to eat dinner, you know? Yeah, well, and that shows what kind of a friend you are. Did you end up walking home? I did walk home, and you know what? It really sucks. So I was wearing these boots, which are great. But to walk a couple miles in these boots, after a while starts to wear on you, mostly my heel and the blister that was there.

Those boots were made for walking. Those boots were not made for walking. They're made for work. short bursts of walking, you know? Standing mostly. Yeah, mostly standing. Those boost are made for the guy holding the stop and slow sign. Yes, 100%. And what sucks is I had a pair of tennis shoes that I left in Charlie's car. Oh, I was going to ask you.

Did you bring your car or your truck? No, I brought the little car. Okay, good. They're still in there then. I'll grab those. So that was a kick to the nuts. Well, it wasn't a kick to the nuts. It was a kick of my car.

miles here's the thing is some make it to your show on time i made it to the show on time i crushed it was a great show it was like 2,000 people thank god i remembered it i mean that would have been bad news bears thank god i was in the right city the show was in you know oh yeah yeah yeah and i should say i got to get someone to remind me that person did remind me earlier in the day i ignored it and then something you said miles during our dinner, I don't know, something you said about living in the moment. I was like, oh, shit, I forgot I got a text.

I wonder what that's about. And then I lopped it up and loom behold, I was about to be missed this show. So I'm really grateful, Miles, that you told me to live in the moment because otherwise it wouldn't have reminded me about, you know, the thing that I had to do. Oh, the moment moment. I think that I was supposed to be doing something else in this moment. Yeah. And I was right. So I'm happy.

I'm thankful to have you as a friend. And, um, you know. So what does it got to take for you to not have that happen in the future? What are you? My dad. This is I just, I, I, I, I just. How have you made it this far? I don't know.

And I'm going to be. It's not a talent issue. know how you made it this far that way. But in terms of just be doing the simple thing of knowing where you're supposed to be and being there on time, how have you made it this far? The problem was, I was like, okay, I need to, I need to, you know, set myself up for success and put it in a calendar, a Google calendar on my phone. But as it turns out, I don't like looking at my phone that often, you know and so the the alerts come up and I ignore and then I'm like but people put all sorts of things on my calendar and the funny thing is is I know this and he's about 23 out of 24 hours

a day Charlie's got do not disturb on on his phone but if you think that I'm not hammering notify anyway on Charlie you are dreaming that how that happens yeah I was wondering that you do the notify you don't respect my space no because you don't respect my space by responding to me i think i i've come up with this beautiful thing and it's worked out phenomenally for me it's ignore everything in your life well it's i respond to emails once every two weeks or if i'm flying so if i'm flying i'll hammer it out because what else am i going to do and um i got to be doing some else i can't just be responding to emails or i'll go say on the bicycle and pedal and then I'll hammer out some emails but my gosh and also if you're acting

like I'm not emailing you I'm texting you well I text is in the same category because if you start responding to every text every email right away people expect that so we as a society need to set the expectations it's different because you and I have a child together and the child is this podcast well I know you like if Ann texted me something about our child and then I just ignored it two weeks and then only responded when I was on a plane, you know, I think that they would be pretty upset with me. Well, with you, it's different. If you call me, that's different. If you call me, I know it's serious. And I'll call you back. Well, then I'm just going to start calling you for everything, even if it's not serious. Well, then you better be careful. You're playing with

fire. I'll put it back in the category of responding. Remember when we got physical mail and we got some time to decompress and understand what the letter is and move forward. Those were the days. We peaked as a society in like maybe the mid-90s as far as communication goes. You sound like your dad. You had a phone that was attached to a rope so you couldn't bring it fishing. And if someone wanted to get you a letter, you had to have a fax machine. and that's actually a really good business idea that I bet you people would buy it is you basically make a docking station on your wall for your iPhone and the way you charge it you plug it in like the case has got a cord attached to it and you can only use it when you're standing next to another thing you got to set it down I mean it's perfect people would people would definitely use that I like that I like that miles why don't we invent that we just did trademarked already though TM and so trademarked pending um yeah that's cool basically just like chain your phone to a wall that's not fun to stand next to right and then it and then you and then you can just live in the moment you'd be

amazed how quickly you can get stuff done when you only when you don't want to be there shit part is is when the stuff you got to get done is on your phone yeah yeah i mean you know there's there's a time in place for telecommunicating and it's usually uh i don't know every two weeks on airplanes that's it that's kind of it you know why not um so anyways that's how i'm living my life miles um yeah well what you know you're lucky i don't know all the things you've been late for i wouldn't put you on blast if i knew because i'm a good friend do you know taylor swift got engaged um i the news just broke as we were recording this so yeah yeah i mean who's in the bellied up universe. Yeah. No, I'm super excited for her and him. Yeah, I mean, he just got his

meal ticket punch. He's good to go. That's his retirement plan. I mean, my gosh. You know, all the billions of dollars, that'll help CTE, I think. Right? Like, you think they're going to donate a billion dollars to CTE research? No, they're going to help his CTE. I mean, he's played for how long he's got to have the CTE. Is it CTE or C2B? No, you got it. CBD.

How does billion dollars help with CTE considering that it's an incurable brain disease? Incurable now, but it's all about money. It's how much money you want to shovel into it, you know? And now that there's love, she'll drop a bill on it. Get it fixed. Get it fixed. Right.

You know? And then that'll pave the way for everyone else with Siti. And, yeah, well, we got off track here, Miles. Should we start the episode? Let's do it. Let's take some callers. All right, guys. Prize picks will give you $50 in lineups when you play your first $5

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and Miles here from the Bellied Up podcast. I heard that you got a situation with your father-in-law. Yeah, something like that. I mean, he's not quite yet my father-in-law. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but, you know, for the sake of the conversation, he's your father-in-law. Let's dive into it. What's going on with him?

What's his name? So his name is, well, I have to refer to him as Mr. Stepanick. Very smart. Mr. Stepanick. God, what a great name. Polish man, huh? Maybe. I'm not really too sure.

You're not too sure. You don't know what, where Stepanek is from. You're about to marry this gal? She's not going to take his last night, probably. I know she's really big into her Irish heritage. And I don't think Stepanic is Irish. Sepanic's not Irish.

Are you sure she's? Stolen Irish valor, then. some i don't know something anywho so mr stepan to panic um so wait what did you say mouse yeah to continue on okay so me and my girlfriend have been going out we're going up on three years now um and you know things are great we moved in together you know we're talking about getting engaged to and getting married here than the next couple years but my issue is is that her dad has all these like fun outdoor toys like four wheeler and he's got like a kayak and a boat and these like paddle boards and stuff and like I think he still uses that

stuff especially in the summertime regularly but I've yet to get invited to like use any of it and like I would love to be part of that and have a good time so Carter let me get oh go ahead no you go well well I was just going to say so I didn't know like what my next move should be here because I thought we were cool but you know like I want to have a good time so let's let's walk a mile in mr. Stepanick's shoes here yeah yeah let's paddle a mile in mr. Stepanick's kayak here for a moment yeah well I've been dating his daughter for three years and you moved in with her and still haven't put a ring on her finger you know what kind of message is that send you guys are living in sin Carter you know you know why uh buy the cow when you get the milk for free yeah

know why why uh buy the kayak if you can paddle it for free why go out on the at tv why purchase well you get it same analogy for all why buy a keg when you can get free beers for free right free was redundant there but you know why uh why uh put uh some recreational fuel in the atv when Stepanek's doing it for you for free. He feels like you're already getting enough. Yeah, aren't you getting enough entertainment out of that family? Hey. Hey.

I'm glad you went with that and didn't say you're getting enough free rides, Miles. You're improving as a host here. Or I'm, yeah. We're keeping it PG. So, Carter, do you think there's a little bad blood there that you're, I mean, you guys have been together

for three years? Does he like you? well that's what like our relationship so my girlfriend and I did meet online and I know at first that he was a little skeptical of that because we're originally from like an hour away so it was like his daughter's dating this kid that lives an hour away and you know we met online and so for a while like when we'd go out like I was not allowed to go to her house I'd have to pick her up at like a Meyer parking lot and we were just kind of hang out there. How old is she? She's in high school? Yeah. So, no, I'm in college. I'm 23.

She's just a couple months younger than me. She turns, she's 22, so. Okay. All right. So she lives at her parents? So she was when we first met. And because we met online, they were afraid that I was going to be like an axed murderer, which is there for a while.

But they would still let their daughter see me. and like come to my side of town which was an hour away but yet i they like didn't want to meet me so for a while there i thought they didn't like me no he's they probably a serial killer you met him online yeah they definitely heard there's some stories that people get murdered from that what website craigslist um no it was no not craigsblest i was doing an act out that's like what her mom would say yeah that's her parents having a conversation You know, he probably doesn't even care about her. He just wants, wants her for her body.

Yeah, the milk. I thought you were going to keep going with me there. So, oh, no, what I said seems a little strange. No, no, no, no. I was going to keep going. But Carter was having a hard time understanding when we were in character. Yeah. Okay.

We'll let you know from now on if we're in character or out of character. So right now we're out of character It's just us here, Carter So it took a while But I mean you can sense a vibe Does the man like you or not Oh yeah No definitely now he does

Because we've gone on like family vacations And he said that you know I have to go fishing with him one time before He like lets his daughter marry me And stuff like that So I think we're there But then it's like well why aren't you invite me to go do all these fun things All those you know

That's my predicament. It's very confusing well who's he inviting to do it that like you're like they get an invite but i don't maybe he just doesn't want to invite anyone maybe that's just mr stepanix alone time you know that might be true i mean i can't think that he i guess he doesn't invite like a bunch of people but like i know as a family that they do go out and do that stuff and it's like well if i'm supposed to be part your family someday i'd like i'd like to do that oh okay oh he wants to be part of the family someday, Miles. He wants to be part of the family. Well, then act like it. Put a ring on the finger, Carter. You know, right now, we don't know. He doesn't want you to come

with because he's waiting for the call saying, hey, let's take that fishing trip, big boy. Yeah. He's waiting for that. He's waiting for you to big dick him a little bit. He wants the respect to know that you're going to actually be part of the family before he goes wasting some 91 fuel on you know how much that is per gallon these days a lot recreational fuel with no ethanol i mean that's pretty pricey there yeah you got to calm up and say hey i'm doing a character by the way hey miss uh thank you hey bud you just don't even say mister just call him stepansky stepansky grab your rod we're going fishing it's time you know it's time for what you don't even know my last name. It's to panic, for God's sakes. I've already hung up. He knows where to go. Wow. I'm out of

character. Wow. Okay. Ballsy move to get the name wrong and everything. Try that, Carter. Nothing's more of an alpha move than getting someone's name wrong, you know? Yeah, no, that's true. True. Okay. I mean, you know, it's kind of like if you want to take down the wolf pack, you don't take down all the, you know, the whole pack. You just got to take down the alpha dog and then you become the alpha dog. I think, yeah, could be a good. Okay. I may bark in his face a little bit. I knew a guy whose dogs weren't listening to him, so he ran him down and bit him in the face to show who's the alpha dog

and listen to him after that. So maybe he'd run down Mr. Stepansky and bite him in the face. I mean, what's he going to do? Okay. He's going to say, you're on bath salt. So I think that maybe that might be worth a try. I just feel bad because like he's a. firefighter and a first responder so like he's also just like a good guy yeah good guys can still get

their face bit you know he can handle it dude you think he can't walk this man's walking into burning buildings every day you didn't don't think he'd take a little chomper to the cheek get over yourself carter dang also here's another question do you have a mustache uh i have a mustache it's like a goatee sort of situation right now he doesn't respect you then you got to go full stash he's a fireman you got to meet him one is ground you know you're doing a goatee if i could have just a solid regular mustache i would but it's just not in my genetics i guess it's not your genetics it's in the walgreens aisle get some just for men filler in there and you know i mean you think we're all just walking around with what we got on our face

we're using technology okay they got some great chest ferment products put a little silver fox in there little salt and pepper he'll start respecting you'll be like oh yeah that's my brand too are you sponsored by them or what yeah you know what go to go to the walgrens get some brute cologne you walk in smelling like this man's father he's gonna feel a whole new way about flashbacks yeah PTSD from the smell of the cologne yeah so um and And what do you do for a living, Carter? So I sell junior hockey tickets for a living.

Okay. You sell junior hockey tickets for a living. So right now, I just graduated from Youngstown State University in December. Yeah, Miles, shut up. It's his first job. God. Go ahead, Carter. No, thank you.

I was, I interned there for like a year. And then they brought me on full time to be like a salesman. And our team plays in the USHL. So we play like the Fargo force. I don't know. Oh, yeah. I've been to a force game before. How'd you get there, Miles?

How'd you get to the force game? I went online and bought a ticket. That's where I'm confused. Haven't we replaced ticket salesmen by now? What do you actually, who are you selling these two? So we sell, like my main job is to sell sponsorships and like season tickets. which, you know, you could fill out the form online, but, like, you're still going to talk to somebody about getting out a situation, which is me.

Yeah, this is a... Got it, got it. You're selling club seats, you know? You're talking to corporations having them get in a box at the stadium. This is a good gig. This is a good gig. I thought he was just, like, standing outside the arena, like a scalper, you know? Two tickets, chap, two tickets.

Youth hockey. Youth hockey. okay that makes sense yeah have you and have you got him a box at the arena before not a box but i've gotten him in the whole family tickets before like right on the glass i mean you know a little bit more yeah well right on the glass is pretty good and what did they did they enjoy the game oh yeah and they my uh girlfriend's got some younger siblings so like the kids were there and they were entertained the whole time so the family had a good time this is good you know what you know what um i i i like where you're at carter okay you know when do you think you're

going to propose oh man see we've been talking about it and you know within probably six months or maybe a year or so what happened my girlfriend's still in school what happens to just guys making decisions you know when did it turn into a whole conversation about the day the place getting the ring picked out beforehand. When the fuck did we get to here? What happened to that? I mean, Miles, you got engaged after a year, didn't you? No, I was like five years.

But I made a decision when it came down to it. I bought the ring myself. I didn't tell her when we were going to get engaged. Now, she sniffed it out because I actually planned something for once. So she kind of figured it was happening. But we never had the conversation of when do you want to get engaged. You know? it's what happened to that when you got engaged charlie no i'm not doing this as a bit i what did

you have the conversation or did you just do it oh miles i'd have to i'd have to i'd have to i'd have to like uh go go back into the files you know and check out what happened there i i don't remember to be honest with you i don't remember how it all shook out i can't that didn't work out for you. It's not important, though. Carter, here's what's important. You love the girl. You're waiting for her to graduate, right?

Yeah. Okay. And once he graduates, then you guys, and you're young yet still, you know? So is there, what percentage chance do you think you're going to get engaged and what percentage chance do you think you're not going to get engaged? Oh, 100% engaged.

Like, we talk about, you know, all right starting our life together all the time like that's got to happen they already planned how they're going to get engaged did she what didn't when does she want you to propose she wants me to wait because she wants to go be a like a kindergarten teacher so she's going into like her busy like student teaching part of school right now so she wants me to wait a little bit until she's not as busy with the school and to me it's like well maybe we could just do that sooner but you know i don't want her to get upset about it uh-oh Oh, that's crazy.

Uh-oh. She's just stacked up. She's just stacked up with so much work. I mean, the amount of blocks she's got to organize at work. Okay, Miles. Okay. You know, kindergarten teachers have to deal with the developmental stages in a young child's life. I apologize for that one.

And when your kid is off at kindergarten, every day doesn't come back a little asshole. You're going to be grateful about. how it's come this whole thing that everyone plans their engagement. Isn't that the point of engagement? Is it unplanned? Well, the gals, they want to get their nails done. I apologize, Carter, for that one. That one was it below the belt blow and I apologize. You are blowing them below the belt and we don't like it here, Miles. That's not how we do it here on the Bell. It's all good, Miles. Did you think it was like a little bit funny? No, it definitely is because You know, like, I have, you know, I understand the work that she does put in.

But it's like at the end of the day, yeah, they do learn some shapes and colors. It's like, okay, what are we down here? All right. Suck it, Charlie. Well, send her this podcast and you won't have to worry about that engagement anymore. Well, yeah. The pants is going to be pissed. I don't know about that one.

What kind of ring does she want? Um. Oh, I forget the name of the shape, but it's not like a full, it's a circle with like the points on the end. It's like round, but there's... Like a football shape. Yeah, yeah, exactly. You got the money saved up? Oh, yeah, I got all the money saved up.

It's been a while, but... Oh, yeah, it's there. Don't name Plasma for fucking four years. Plasma. I just graduated college. You know, the last thing I want to do is, like, Like, those things are expensive. The last thing he wants to do is buy an engagement ring.

You are digging yourself in a hole, man. The saving, you know. No, I get it. What's the weirdest thing you've ever done for money, Carter? I don't think I've done too many weird things for money. I just recently started door dashing a little bit on the weekends, but I wouldn't say that's weird. No, no, no, that's not weird. That's pretty standard.

So when she says she's finally ready to get engaged, you should be like, I don't know, man. busy with DoorDash right now. I don't think it's a good time for me. I don't think she'd be too happy with that one. She actually comes with me sometimes when we do DoorDash. I see that once and while. When I door dash, there's like there's a guy's name on it and then a girl drops the stuff off at the door and then I look at the ring doorbell and you can see the guys, the driver, and she runs it in. It's a common thing. It's a fan. It's nice. It's how you get time together. know dashboard time at your wedding you know i'm sure you guys will talk and that'll be a cute story you bring up we spend all those times uh door dashing together we really got to know each other

you know the priest when he's given the homily he'll probably stick on that one you know it's a nice oh yeah nice and innocent way of doing it um okay well look i think you're on the right track here if you want to get the invite to go use the, what's his first name? Mr. His first name. I don't want to know his first name. Mr. Stepansky. If you want to get him, Mr.'s good graces, you show up to the lakehouse with about 26 gallons of gas pre-filled.

And you just drop it down there. And you said, I bet you need this for the summer. Yeah, drop it down and just go, where's my room at? okay so like a combo of like helping them out with the gas but then still trying to be like yeah big big big dick a little bit yeah right feel like mr stepansky's only respect big dicking what is your girlfriend say does she yeah we see what does she add in this she should be vouching for you with the dad so she like will try to be like hey whenever you guys are doing this stuff like invite carter but it's like she lives down here

here with me now in Youngstown where she's like from the Cleveland area in Ohio so she doesn't get to go with them as much anymore either so it's kind of hard we're both like stuck hmm yeah it'll come around

what's yeah you're good yeah you put a ring on it and it's the mood it'll change I'm thinking that might be the maybe the hold up here so we'll see You'd want to, are there brothers?

She's got two brothers, yes. And so you want to go with the dad and the two brothers. You want to go up there with the three of them. Yeah. Well, you seem committed to the family. All right, well, you know what? You put a ring on it. I think that's what's missing here.

In my family, we got a family vacation. We go on every year. The rule is you've got to be engaged to bring your, significant other that's that's the rule that uh you know and are are they religious are they catholic something like that they they are catholic well they they we should have asked this earlier yeah you're catholic you're not going on vacation until you put a ring on it okay you're living in sin one it's living in sin and two they're not going to spend extra money if you're not committed you know it can be cheap too right exactly are you going to church

anymore she then that's part of the issue with the engagement stuff if she's catholic i'm not so it's like that wedding you know how are we going to do that what flavor are you um i always grew up going to like non-denominational kind of churches sneakers and hoodies type of guy yeah yeah oh yeah well you're going to have to bite the bullet go through the full ceremony you're only the only good never mind go ahead no i want to hear this miles piss off our non-denom fan base let's see it no no no no no you're good um look are you going to say a catholic joke aren't you no yeah just all right we'll move forward um there she's gonna the the mom is gonna want you to get married

in church uh you're gonna if you fight it is just gonna set you up for at least three years of trying to dig yourself out of that hole what's a difference go through with it and um you know five years later you'll be divorced anyway so we appreciate you No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding, Carter. Listen, we're going to let you go, but I'm feeling good about your situation here. Just put a ring on it, and that'll make it all kind of better. Okay.

Well, I appreciate you guys' input and your advice with the, you know, the big dick and the mustache and bringing the gasoline in the ring. So, well, thank you, fellas. You bet. You bet. All right. We'll see you soon. Hey, are you proud of me? What?

I didn't say, oh, your brains aren't fully developed yet. Don't do it. No, that was great. That was great. See, I've grown. I'm proud of you, Charlie. And we're proud of me. I had a very inappropriate joke that I held my tongue on.

I kind of wanted to hear it, though. Maybe we should go back to our old ways, huh? It's just weird. I don't like it. Yeah. It's like we're, we've gone corporate, you know, or something. But we haven't. We're just trying to be better people.

Mm-hmm. and so we take another caller let's do it all right guys charlie miles who do we got in the bar with us today russell nicolay what is up guy makes me feel like a brighter day i thought you're I make you feel some type of way. Oh, damn. That would... Rostom. Yeah, I think we got a hit on our hands right there.

I agree. I think that's our new theme song. Are you cool with, like, let me do that. Can I get the IP for it to potentially use that for our commercials going forward? I'm going to need to talk to an IP attorney. Yeah, and... You really? Also, can we just sign something on this napkin?

Yeah, sure. Let's do it. see if that holds up that might hold up in the court of laws you can try you actually can probably make more money if you sign that

he does the uses your IP and then you sue him later probably make more money on the lawsuit than he could off of him off of the you know IP really because he's coercing me into signing

under the influence of alcohol yeah you have a good point and we have all the proof right here get me a pen and if I draft it and it's ambiguous it's what they call construed against the drafter

so you could you've got I think Miles is right you got a whole bunch of ways to just get a lot of money out of me from it wait I'm saying so if you write something basically you should get taken advantage of and then you'll make more money later

that's not true though it's just it's only if the person taking advantage of you it has less money than you you know because like you know when we sign those terms of whatever the hell every time you put a new app on yeah the terms and conditions and all that stuff yeah that's that that's exactly what you just said what's it called what construed

against the drafter yeah yeah but i was just saying if it was something here that was it was like basically three sentences and it's cover everything that's a whole new segment that's ambiguous and it's trying against me the drafter so you could say what you know there's things that weren't covered including that whatever for this usage or that and then now you want money because i used it for whatever else oh okay so you didn't put enough words on this right napkin that's like that's why those things are like a mile freaking long but what you'll see to in some of the contracts now this is like nerd contract talk but basically it'll say in there like this is not to be construed against the drafters one of the agreements of contracts now you often see that because of that very reason yeah

but in this one if we just did like three sentences now i'm going to include that actually if we do it because Four sentences. Four sentences. Miles, this shit is interesting and we can't help it that you don't have the attention span for the legal world. No, I was saying

it's a great new segment. Charlie trying to understand legal jargon. See Charlie's brain. It's like a three hour long podcast. Oh, yeah. That would be great actually. Because I just represent,

you know, the average dog out there. We don't quite get it. And that actually breeds to the question I'm going to ask you to do. Breeds. I like,

to play on words there miles i saw that um how legal are bar napkin agreements in the uh legal world i think they could because the one thing with a lot of different contracts is they need to be in writing so if you have this it's in writing and it's signed i don't see why it's not legal now if you look at you know like you was saying influence of alcohol or under the influence of alcohol or as i said the ambiguity is construed against the drafter there are some problems with it but could it be upheld yeah i mean it's the biggest thing you also in a contract you have to have to consideration so there's got to be something in return um so like but in what we're talking about there would be you know yeah you could do all your deals on napkins if you wanted to i mean i mean

that's how i want to do deals from now on just just you know it's mail them a napkin honestly it seems way more legit than uh the doc you sign where you just click click click click finish done Yeah, they're like, do you want to adopt a signature? You're like, sure, it's different font than the last one I did, you know? Let's get fun with it. And they're like, yeah. You know, I try doing one with it, you know, on Word, how you can do symbols, but apparently that don't work.

But if you do it, one time I drew a smiley face as my signature and it worked, it went through, you know? You tested it. I tested it. It worked. I mean, these people don't care, Miles. And that's why if you did in a bar napkin and I saw a smiley face, I'd say, No.

No. The right. Well, and then you also will have your, like, greasy thumbprint on the napkin as well. That's actually how you should be signing stuff. A little leftover cheese shirt. Just dip your finger in some art choke dip and then just stamp it on the napkin.

That should be your signature. Yeah. Yeah. You want to do blood? I want to do blood. Let's use your palm. Guy, I got the knife.

You got the palm. I think it's we use our own blood. Oh, and we unite our blood. Yes. With a handshake. Yeah. And hopefully you don't get any weird blood diseases. But if you do, you're my blood brother.

Could I sue Charlie for giving me a blood disease off of a handshake? I think if, potentially, if he knew he had a blood disease, then he didn't warn you like that. I don't know I have a hepatitis. Okay, well, then, all right. If he doesn't know, but I mean, we could look through his medical records, I suppose we sued him. and then find out that he knew. I like how he's on my side. We sued him.

Turns out, Charlie, he's my lawyer, not yours. All right. I see how it is, Russell. I'm sorry, Charlie. You know, I want to say between the two of us, I put more effort into the ad reads. Okay. So you should be on my side.

Okay. Okay. That's not true. My ad reads are poetry. Okay. Miles. just comes from, you know, off the top of his head, off the top of the dome. Charlie, so, like, we have like a, hey, we should talk about this and this ad read.

And Charlie hears the first three words of it and just starts. It doesn't listen to the rest of the prompt. That's because I just want to go, baby. I don't need more than one word to be prompted. And then I have to spend the entire ad read. You know why? Getting him to the spot that was the original prompts. Miles, you know why?

Mine's an art form. Yours is a scatterbrain. mess. No, this is the rodeo baby and I'm the bull and I'm just sitting there waiting to come out the gate. I got a wrap around my balls you know and I'm just waiting for it to be released and I can go buck you know. Yeah, like it like

we did the one yesterday. It was about Labor Day you know, there's going to be a lot of accidents on Labor Day. Oh, and where'd we go with that? And Charlie and Charlie in his mind was like just heard the word labor and he just started talking about something else. I was talking about birth and mother's giving birth on Labor Day.

I mean, how about that? I don't know. that, I don't think that's what Labor Day is about, but, um, yeah, but imagine if you gave birth on Labor Day, you're double, you're laboring on Labor Day, which is the opposite of what you're supposed to be doing. It should be called not Labor Day. That's true. I would say, though, that Charlie does occasionally use his musical skills to sing some of our things, so like, well, there you go. I'll sing all day. Then I'm crying, you make me. I know you seem all impressed, but he spent 1,200, bucks on singing lessons

and he still sounds like that. Oh, not 1,200 miles. Over the course of my life a lot of pretzel money went to some singing lessons. And that's what he sounds like. Yeah. It's a thought that counts. It is. Yeah. Well, we appreciate

you coming into the bar and bellying up with us. And learning a lot of legal situations. Now, if people do screw the pooch, go ass over teakow, sorry, Miles, I stepped on you. You were ready to wrap this. No, that was me. Okay. I thought you were wrapping it up. Yeah, people go ass over tea kettle and maybe get a chestnut, bacon wrapped chestnut up their bum.

Who do they call? I don't, I mean, if the skewer. Someone even had an injury, child. In injuries that make sense, that might be through the negligence. I don't know how that would have them. That sounds like an intentional act to somebody's self. It was pretty negligent. No, if you trip and fall and you get the skewer.

Okay. on your bum. Okay, well, if you can just reach out to Nicolaylau.com, but if, if that's what happened, you know, we'll have to get some more information and make sure that we can help you on that because I don't know all the facts. So don't just call the chit-chat. Call with a legit claim. Even though we, you know, we have like some very good intake people and they are good

listeners and chit-chatters. I'd like to do that job. I think you should, yeah, we should bring you on intake. Well, we should do that. I think you'd like my intake team and you would, you, you'd love it. And you could sing some intake if you wanted. I'm a big intaker, man. I think you are.

I am. I've seen it. Yeah, you have. Every day on this podcast, I'm taking it in from you, my house. The words coming out of your mouth. Don't get weird with it. Oh, grow up. The maturity.

When was the last time you've been to confession? All right. Russell, it's been a pleasure. See what happens? He attacks me like that. I'm sorry for Miles's immaturity. Thank you, sir. Don't touch his hand. Joe, how are you doing, man?

I'm pretty good, yeah. Doing pretty good. Hey, we hear you're Amish. No. Oh. I'm not. Okay, no, wait, wait. We hear you're a Canadian Mennonite

and you keep getting confused for being Amish. Is that true? That's it. There you go. So what's going on with? the Amish and the Mennonite. I don't, what is, what is that? I thought it was same horse, different buggy.

Yeah, see, that's the issue. That's the issue I'm having. So I'm Mennonite, not Amish. My parents are born in Mexico. They're kind of like, and like my ancestors are all like immigrants and they moved around a lot from all over the place. So I don't really know where the name Mennonites came from, but whenever anybody hears the name the word Mennonite, they assume Amish. I'm going to be honest with you, Joe.

I'm in that category. So can you explain to us what's the difference between Mennonite and Amish? Everything. Everything? Well, that was really helpful, Joe. You know what? Problem solved. Close the good book.

So do you make furniture? Sure, can you elaborate for us? Well, I'm dating my girlfriend, and whenever she introduces me to any of her family, she always has to bring up, oh, yeah, he's met a night. And then they all think I'm Amish. Then they make all these Amish jokes, and I'm like, well, none of these are true. Like, you know, introduce me, and then they're like, so do you have electricity in your house? Do you ride a horse and buggy?

I'm like, no, actually, I have a truck in a car. and I can watch TV whenever I want. So is that the biggest difference is you guys use technology and they don't? Well, I don't know. It's kind of just a, the Mennonite is just like a religion, I guess. What religion are the Amish? I couldn't tell you. I don't know anything about the Amish.

Well, this is your problem, Joe. Okay. Like, you've got to, I hate to say it, but you know, you're going to kind of have to inform people if you want these stereotypes to go away. You've got a big opportunity here to educate the Midwest on the difference between Mennonite Amish, because let's face it, we're all too lazy to look it up, but now we're going to have to. I think I'm going to find myself an Amish friend. All right. Well, that's a better way than looking it up. All right. So Amish are horse and buggy, plow and hull. Plow.

Woodwork and carpentry. Okay. And Mennonites are truck and tally. And it's just a religion. So is it Mennonites Christian? Yeah. Okay. Is it like Lutheran? I'm not sure what that is. you don't know what lutheran is i hate to say it joe i think you're amish okay i can see why people are getting this um well all right what what takeaway do you want people to to have here well i don't know i just see myself as a regular guy i'm with i'm i'm the same as everyone else okay yeah you don't want those labels you know no would you would you like it if you were just getting introduces hey this is my buddy charlie he's catholic he's kath click. So, you know, would you like that, Charlie? Oh, no. We got old, you know, spray and pray Charlie

over here. And then people will be like, oh, so you're like Lutheran. And then wouldn't that drive you up a wall? I'm like, I don't know what a Lutheran is. And I'd just be yelling at them. Yeah, it would tick me off. Um, well, give us a special fact about Mennonites. We want to learn more about the Mennonite. The Mennonite in our lives. Like my kind of Mennonites, I guess, whatever you want to call them. So it's from Mexico. They're like not Mexican-speaking Mexicans or Spanish-speaking Mexicans. We all speak German, but it's like low-German, kind of like a language that we invented, I guess.

So Mennonites are Mexican people who speak German. Basically, yeah. That's kind of wild. Did you hear that or no? Yeah, they were delivering fish fries as you, as you, as you. said that do you do germans like fish fries actually that's a pretty common thing with us yeah see we're already bridging cultural gaps Mennonites from Mexico like fish fries see that's a fact yeah yeah yeah that's maple syrup okay what rules do you have what's the strictest rule in the Mennonite faith

I don't know basically any of the Bible rules I guess oh yeah okay nice you don't go to church a lot, do you? I don't know. You're probably what we would say, a non-practicing Mennonite. Is that accurate? You're a creister, is what you are. Christmas and Easter, you'll put on the blue bonnet, and you'll go over to the Mennonite church.

No, those are the days I don't go, you. So then that's when all the other stuff goes on. Oh, yeah. When was the last time you went to church? probably six months ago yeah okay yeah all right but to be fair I just bought a house and I'm really busy

you just bought a house and you're really busy I'm sure the Lord will take that in his excuse yeah oh yeah you're too busy for the Lord I mean what do you do for fun I do like woodworking are you do woodworking don't tell other people that it's not helping your cause

not working in your face He's like, I like working on the farm. You know, I like sewing my own clothes. No, we sold the farm. Oh, you sold the farm. Yeah. I like riding quads and dirt bikes and stuff. Brat, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, burp, what are you doing?

What are you doing? I'm not working. I'm not working. right now. Where do you work? Concrete precast company. Oh, the old precasters, eh? I haven't decided on whether or not that is less than regular concrete, the same as regular concrete or harder. I doubt it's harder than regular concrete work because you're in a

warehouse, aren't you? Well, I work on site. Like, we build like the high-rise building. Oh, okay. You're putting up braces and shit and dealing with cranes? Yeah, a little bit. I'm more, I run like a deficiency crew. So after the building's all done, I go and fix whatever they fucked up. Okay. Like that.

So what is the biggest fuck up in the pre-cast industry? Probably this job that I'm on right now. Yeah, but what happens? Well, this one, a wall fell off an eight-story building. A wall fell off an eight-story building? A concrete wall, yeah. Damn, that's a big fuck up right there. Were they wearing helmets?

Because, you know, that's why they say hard hat. Oh, yeah, hard hat's really going to protect you from an eight-foot concrete wall chart. Well, it can't hurt miles. It can't hurt. It can't hurt. Gives you a fighting chance. What's that, Joe? There's a 12-foot wall.

12-foot tall by 8 foot wide. 12-foot by 8-foot-fell 8-stories. Listen to the details. Yeah. you ever squished a mosquito on your hand before that's what you would be like hard hat or not oh no that's not true uh have you seen looney tunes i would just be pushed into the uh ground a little bit but my head would be protected yeah you're right it fell on the neighbor's yard and crushed the greenhouse oh no there goes that pot well listen joe um we are glad that you're at

out there evangelizing the differences between Mennonite and the Amish. I'm still not sure the difference, but, you know, maybe you can do a little research and then call us back and let us know the differences. All right. I'll do that. All right. Charlie, we got a voicemail here. Jared's got it queued up. Let's hear it. Hey, my name's Shay. I am 25 and I need some advice. So I'm going to be going to a wedding in Wisconsin, my in-laws. And I'm a vegetarian. So I need some help. What do I do? What are they going to ask? How do I deal with like all the razzing and all that kind of stuff? Because I know was coming. Please help. Thanks. Bye.

First piece of advice, don't tell anyone. You are not a vegetarian. You just have a stomach bug. Yeah. Or it's just like, you know, I'm just not that hungry. I think I'll just have a salad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll just have the side salad and oh, God, that made me really full. What a huge side salad that was. My brother-in-law, Gabe, he's a vegetarian and God bless him. we all love them, but every time my dad sees him, he's like, oh, Gabe, I just got some venison in the basement for you.

You know, every time there's something. I think also an important thing is cheese is, you can eat cheese with fed as a vegetarian, right? No, Miles, you can't. So that's vegan, I thought that ways you can't eat cheese. Vegan is nothing with a mother, so they don't

eat plants or. I know, but I thought it was vegetarian. You just don't eat meat. Yeah, you don't eat. Well, there's different levels of it, you know. Is that true? Is that true?

See, it's like Mennonite versus Amics. Jared, you should have foreseen that question. Yeah. I don't know. Pescatarians, a person who only eats pests. For the sake of the conversation, we're going to assume, vegans don't eat anything. And vegetarians eat some stuff just not meat.

Okay? Okay. So what you need to do is you need to find common ground with the Wisconsinites. You know, don't steer them in the direction of, I don't eat meat. Steer them in the directions of I do eat cheese curds. There you go. I love cheese curts.

Yeah, stick on the stuff you love. Distract them with the fact that you haven't touched your roast beef and instead get them being like, oh, God, these cheese curts are just great. And then be like, oh, I got two full on cheese cards. I can't finish my roast beef. And then hit them with you want some, you know, so you share. Yeah. And then I say I'll split this with you. And then keep splitting it with people until there's just one lowly bite of that pork chop left. And that you can give to the dog. And the thing that I know about weddings is they never give you enough food. So there's always people kind of, if someone doesn't finish their whole meal, I don't know if you've done this, but I'm looking around other plates being like, God, do you think it would be weird if I asked them if I could finish their stuff?

oh yeah and there's going to be people like that so um if you're not going to eat the roast beef say you got too full on cheese curds find the person that's most likely to make fun of you and be like i filled up on cheese curds i am going to have diarrhea later i can't eat this roast beef do you want to eat it and then they'll be like now you're on their side because you gave them their meal and then now they'll leave you alone and everyone in wisconsin has overloaded on cheese curts before so they feel your pain they're going to offer you some advice on how to handle that you know you go get yourself a little emodium and you'll clear that right out so um yeah i think that's that's some good advice uh you can

also just remember that there's no meat in alcohol so that's another common ground i know once a while i call a beer a pork chop you know yeah well bar for a couple pork chops do you I feel like I maybe have that's a good thing to start I like that also pork job's a great nickname for your guy your buddy who's just a little overweight old pork chop just walked in we're just not calling people pork chop enough

anymore I feel like late 90s early 2000s pork chop was getting thrown around and we've kind of lost the art of the pork chop and I think we'd like to bring it back I would like to bring that back oh pork chop and chicken wing for your fellows a little under underneath the weight limit you know chicken wing and pork chop walked in great that's great yeah oh well is that it Jared well guys thanks for tuning in to another episode of the bellied up podcast live from burnsies here in west alice charlie was a good one great one man and remember always what tip your bartender we'll see you the next one

Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now. Oudaloo.