Bellied Up - The Art of Friend Zoning #127

Episode Date: November 21, 2024

In this episode we chat with a guy thats frustrated with how other people treat the golf course. Then, Bartender Lauren joins us to talk about the do's and donts' of asking for a drink. Last caller wants to know how to put guys in the friends zone. Don't have time to call in? Call our Voicemail line and tell us what's on your mind 👇 218-303-5095 Check out our Clips Page 👇 https://www.youtube.com/@BelliedUpClips?app=desktop Get Yourself a "Road Hunting for Ditch Chickens" hat and other merch here 👇 https://ohhyoubetcha.com/products/ditch-chickens-hat Check out Charlie Berens Special "Midwest Goodbye" 👇 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wEzagimGjc Check out Myles' Podcast "You Betcha Radio" 👇 https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQK1ATqc6L9wz4FAiun8kKw

Welcome back to another episode of the bellied up podcast. I am a host of the podcast named miles. Do you bet you got here with Charlie Barron's Charlie. I feeling good. My fired up on this episode. Got this new sick hoodie. Look at the drip drip check. What are they saying? Yeah, you got it. Charlie's wearing the new road hunting for ditch chickens, hunting sweatshirt that you can find at. Oh, you bet you.com. You're looking snazzy today, Charlie. Thanks miles. I'm ready to go. Get me a grouse or a partridge or a pheasant. Yep. Any of them. So guys, huntin season. It's a great look for you out there in the ditch. Yeah. Um, Charlie, guess where we're at miles. Where are we at? We're in Bemidji, Minnesota at old Slim's Bar and Grill and limbs bar.

I tell you what, Charlie, being in Bemidji brings back memories for me. Oh, no. Oh, no. Hold on. Let me I got to grab the yearbook out of my bag. Oh, there it is. Oh, yeah. What do we have here? Miles? Is that you? That's me playing division two college football. Long flowing hair. What position were you? Miles? I was running tight quarterback receiver, running tight quarterback, back receiver, running tight quarterback, receiver, running tight quarterback receiver running tight quarterback receiver I like that yes Jack of all trades a master of none correct and master Jack reason why springs back memories Charlie we had a little rivalry back in the day did you with the midgey with the Bemidji beavers we used to call

it beaver week did you and we used to shave our beards and just have a mustache really nice awesome I want to see beards and just have a mustache. Really? Nice. That's awesome. I want to see a picture. Do you have a picture of you with the mustache? I can find it. I'd love to see that. I'd love to see that. Now. How did you guys typically do against Bemidji? I'd have to pull the stats. We at least one once or twice for sure because of you or uh no okay I helped you know I played yeah didn't actually like do a ton yeah but I career started to go downhill in college yeah football 100% because you were the star quarterback in high school I was but what's cool about the MSU, um, the midgy state rivalry is they

actually have a rivalry trophy called the battle acts. Oh, and it's one of the oldest trophies in college football. Really? That is that where, I mean, the Badgers and UW university of Minnesota, the Gophers, they have an ax to Google the Bimidji MSUM battle axe. I'm I'll go out on limb Charlie and say this battle axe is cooler than the Minnesota Wisconsin one Okay, this isn't the Minnesota Wisconsin one Paul Bunyan's axe. Yeah. Yeah, this is a battle axe It's way different. All right, hang on. Hang on, hang on. Oh, I put in battle as. That's not what we want. Good thing your safe search was on on Google.

Yeah, seriously. I can't find this. Oh, is that it? Barbarium? No, that's not it. Here, let me do it. Yeah, you do it. I just typed in Bemidji Battle Axe.

Can't find it anywhere. Miles, does it even exist? Oh, there it is. That's the best picture you got of this thing? That is badass though. It is badass. It's real. It's badass. Is that a, that's a walleye?

No, that's an ax. It looks like a walleye on the other end. So, yeah, it was pretty cool. How come there's not another picture of that? How come you're not holding this axe here? That was probably after my time, Charlie. Okay. Okay.

Well, that's pretty good. Is it sharp? No. Okay. Um, but anyways, just thought I'd bring out the yearbook since we're in Bemidji. Um, we beat the beavers a couple of times. Did you felt good? Well, I'm really proud of you,

miles. And that's what makes me happy to be your friend and bellied up to the bar here with you today. Cool. Tradition though, that the Bimidji team has is when they went on homecoming, I believe they go and they jump in the lake pads on and stuff with all the pads on that's cold. yeah oh yeah that'll and is it is it the kind of thing where you shoulder pads and helmets and everything um all I know is they did do that to us one that's why I know yeah yeah well I'm sorry for your losses miles sorry but I do wish you the best here so we take some colors do it. I also want to try one of these cookies here. Should we split one? Yeah You know I split cookie together. We should yeah, I wonder what they cost. Yeah wonder who made them

I wonder that too. Was it Lauren? They don't know that yet. They don't we'll see we'll see Well, we'll text the golfers. Alright, sounds good. Grant? Grant? What's going on? Belly up to this bar.

Give us your rant, Grant. Well, I tell you what. I work at a golf course and I'm sick of these golfers not fixing their divots and their ball marks on the green. That is a pain in the ass. From a former caddy I can tell you that's annoying as hell. What golf course do you work at? Well I work at Lawrence Country Club. I'm a student at KU and that's kind of my part-time thing. So then you just got a bunch of work to do, fixing the divots and the ball marks. Miles, you're a big golfer.

What do you think about this? I agree. I think you should fix your divots. It's a gentleman's game. Now I'm gonna play devil's advocate here. I'm not saying that I necessarily believe in this, but if you think about it, in any other situation, you are paying to play golf, but you're also paying to do a bunch of work.

So you have to replace your divots. You have to fix the divot marks on the thing. You know, it's all of this extra stuff that you're paying to do. I feel like that should be in your greens fee. Maybe someone there fixing your divots for you. It's called a cat I know but on a regular course, there should be one guy going around. I think yeah I'm not saying I believe that I'm just saying it's you know We are looking to create more jobs in this country You know if you go to a bar and you're done with your beer, they take the beer and throw it away for you Whereas in a what you have to go do that yourself at a golf course. I Whereas in a what you have to go do that yourself at a golf course. I

Don't know miles I think if you're playing golf and you leave it there what about the group behind you what happens if they got A hit out of your David that's not again. I I don't think that I necessarily believe in what I'm saying I'm just playing devil's advocate. I there's a lot of holes in I understand Most golfers are pretty good. I'd say 98% do everything right? It's just really, it's the old guys. And to be honest with you, I don't think there's a lot of golfers out there. They don't even have to worry about fixing divots on the green because they're not hitting the green anyways. Yeah. I mean, that's my thing. You can't, you don't need to replace ball marks in the woods. So I, this is really an, for the two times a year, I golf, I probably replaced one. I probably scrunch up one. That's where you stick your T in right. And you pull it up. Yeah. See, Charlie doesn't even

need to buy a divot fixer. He just uses his tea. They sell like a divot fixer. Like, Oh, is that that little, the two? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I've seen that. I've seen it. Sometimes you have a ballmark on that thing, man. I tell you golf golf is a silly, silly sport. It's fun. It's fun. And you like the, it's a meditative thing for you, miles. I do. I like getting out there by myself in the morning, playing nine holes, just thinking about life. We're not thinking about life. You wear shoes. Yeah, I do. How do you feel about people that don't wear shoes when they golf? I don't mind it. We got great grass. So if you want to walk around there,

but go for it. All right. So we heard the ball marks and we heard the diva divots. What what are the other things that piss you off about golfers? Well, give us the insight into the golf management business. Yeah, I don't like when they drive up by the green. Like, I don't be lazy. You can't be driving your car next to the golf green. Are you clearly marking where their carts can go? Oh yeah, we got signs. Sometimes you got to rope it off because they just ignore everything.

Why do you think people do that? Because they don't want to walk. You know, if the green's on a hill and they don't want to walk up the hill from the cart path, they'll just pull up right next to it. And they don't want to walk up the hill from the car path. They'll just pull up right next to it Yeah, I mean you can't argue with that logic pretty much the problem with I think golf is that you have all these rules But you also serve so much booze on the golf course that it all goes right out the window Yeah, I think the golfers drinking the most are causing the least problems though, because they are not hitting the green and they're not picking the clubs too well. So their divas aren't that big. Here's what we need to do. We need to upgrade the ranger.

So like the Marshall or whatever their name is, the guy who's kind of the cop on the course. Oh yeah. We need to upgrade his cart and he needs to start driving around and giving tickets because it's like right now how it works is he'll come up to you be like, Hey, you're playing too slow. We need you to speed it up, but don't even give them a scolding. Just hand them a ticket and say that they owe the club house 20 bucks. That will get people to start behaving on the course. Soon as you start attacking their wallet, that's when change happens. If cops on the road were just giving people scoldings like the ranger does on the golf course, people would be driving a hundred miles an hour going all over the place. But as soon as they started handing out tickets, that's how you get stuff done.

This is what you do if you are the only golf course in town. If you have a monopoly on the golf courses, because otherwise they're going to go over to like, you know, whatever the other than they it's a country club. You said you're at. Yeah, I'm at a country club. What do you think of upgrading the the Marshalls powers to be able to hand out tickets? We don't even have a Marshall, so it's like we got to get that. You should you should take it on yourself, dude. Vigilante justice, you know, I mean,

get yourself one of those one of those motorized scooters and get a segue, get a segue. Get out there. You need to be the Paul Blart of your golf course and start handing out tickets. Almost like the, the, the sheriff's school in my stand and just fix everything behind them. No, you got to start handing out tickets. So they do it. There we go. You got to rule by fear as the Ranger, like they have no real power. So you have to kind of invent some power.

So tickets, if that's the thing, otherwise, go around with a two iron, you know, and sort of flash your piece. Yeah, it's like your piece. Maybe give them their kneecaps an extra eye down. Yeah. Yeah. Do a little Tiger Woods is ex wife situation. There you go. Well I dug my butter into the side of his pretty little soup. Yeah. B.M. dub anyways. Well we're sorry that those ass hats are not fixing their divots. And maybe it's a good time. PSA Charlie, if you're out there on the course, do your part, fix the divots,

fix your ball marks on the green, respect the course and good karma will come back to you. You maybe you'll hit a lower score. Might I also suggest golf less when you're golfing, bring out a fishing pole, skip a couple holes. Those ponds, I tell ya, they are just stocked, loaded, ready to go. You're gonna get a fish on every cast. What's that? We got a good tack for our pond.

Do ya? Do you get mad if people fish? Oh no, I'll go fish when the course is closed on Monday. It's fun. I like that. Yeah, they're loving everything you're throwing. Well, man, we appreciate you calling in today and, you know, good luck with the, the, the divot bandits out there. And we appreciate calling in today.

All right, you boys have a good one. You too. Be good now. the dip bands. And we appreciate you calling in today. All right, you boys have a good one. You too, be good now. Rock and roll, rock and roll. You know, he didn't seem to be open to fresh ideas. No. I'm not saying that it's broken. I'm saying I think you should fix your divots and all that, but I'm just trying to workshop other ideas.

Yeah, I like where your mind was going with that You know as like as a former caddy, you know, I flex those credentials every so often I do I do and I gotta tell you It's just very easy to get in the flow of the game and not think like, Oh, I hit a great shot or like, how many times do you like Duff it in the fairway? You know, pull out like a whole hole and then you're so pissed at the shot that you're just like, ah, shh, and get back in the car and go. And you just left this gaping hole in the middle of the thing. And you got to get over that. You got to get over that anyways.

So we take another caller. Let's take another caller. All right. So we have a, we have a patron from the bar, Charlie. I love it. I love it when we get the bellied up, uh, guests IRL that stands for in real life. You know, it's, it's nice to get outside and touch grass once in a while. And this is the podcast version of touching grass is having someone in the bar here with us. That also works here. Okay. So she's not even actually a patron then. No, I'm an employee of the bar. It's so, Lauren. Yeah. Where are you from? I was actually born in Colorado Springs, but I grew up in Bemidji, Minnesota. Nice. Yeah. All right. Why did you come to Bemidji from Colorado Springs? Honestly, my dad ran Sam's club and Albert sense and you know, he didn't want to work on the road. So we moved up here and

he ran Lakeland motor and sport and sold their bikes and four wheelers. I liked that. Oh, wow. So you grew up riding, huh? I beat you. Oh, yeah. You know what I got? I got a two thousand six Mitsubishi that can get up to like thirty five going downhill. Oh, I'm proud of you. Last time I rode a dirt bike, I was on like a little mini track and I tried to impress my friends going over a double jump. It didn't work out on a dirt bike.

And I I pinned her down, made the first jump fine, but I was laying on the gas too much when I landed. And when I went over the second one, I went flying, literally flying off of the thing. Oh yeah. So you're fine. Yeah. I'm fine. We'll see.

Rub some dirt on it. Now this is all fun in games, but Lauren, you told me you have something to get off your chest today and it may or may not be about your manager. Yeah. Bar who's actually working right now. Yeah. Wow. Tough guy.

Okay. So let's hear it. What's so wrong with your manager, Chris, over there. Every day, he leaves me notes around the bar telling me how dumb I am as a joke, you know, and I just kind of want to make it. I want the you're dumb win here, and I want to say, Chris, you're dumb. So you came on here to just to make this statement to Chris that, in fact, you are not the one who is dumb, but he is dumb. And I'm going to win the challenge.

OK, wait, what is the challenge? I mean, we try to always one up each other, try to one up the battle. So my question is, is, you know, yes, it's like, oh, it's a joke. But the question is, is he done it enough to where it's starting to hurt your feelings a little bit? Let's really dive in. Is it, I used to- Are you gonna be my therapist now?

It's just- Am I gonna get billed for this later? As a bartender, you are everybody else's therapist. So now it is your time for us to- I'm Ian. To therapist you. That was good. Yeah, thank you.

I don't know if that was sarcasm, but. I feel like I vent about it enough where people tip me more to pay for my therapy bill. Oh, okay. So you're in the actual therapy. That's good. It's good to be in therapy. Yeah, we all need it.

And guys, we are not therapists, so. Yeah, no, not legally. I mean, I feel like you could be, but let me ask you that. Yeah, let me ask you this. When you're trying to get the bartenders attention, you're a bartender crowded bar. Right. What is the rank it like the five ways people try to get your attention? Rank it from best to worst. Oh, yeah. What's the best way to get your attention?

Best way, say your empty glass forward. We have a ledge there. You can set it forward. Empty will typically see it and grab you another drink. You say typically. Yeah, if we if we're busy, it might take a little bit. But if we see it there, we'll always refill it. So the best way to get the attention is patience. Put an empty right there.

OK, and then they'll see it. And will you just replace the drink? Does that mean I just want a replacement drink? Okay. What is the worst way to get a bartender's attention in a crowded bar? Whistling. And doing the shake of the glass, you know?

Oh, like doing one of these? Hey, that was actually great. I just whistled and Chris looked over here. He got instantly pissed at me. That was great. He's like, he's like, should we fight? What is it? One of these? Like, yeah, the one that I did have recently was a glass being shaken because I was talking to somebody across the like the table trying to get their order. Yeah. And then the guy that was next to somebody across the table trying to get their order.

And then the guy that was next to me took his beer and shook his empty glass right in front of my face while I was trying to get an order of somebody else. And that was a hard mean mug. So give us a mean mug. Give us a bartender. Oh, damn. Something died in my soul. I'm glad that went that direction. Good Lord. I feel like that went that direction. Good Lord. I feel like I got the evil eye now. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Don't do that. OK. What are all of you? Have you ever had to kick anyone out of this bar? Oh, honestly, we have great clients. How that comes in here. There have been a time or two has been a time or two that. I have. How do you usually do it? You like grab.

Do you want me to say it? Grab on the microphone. Yes, say it. If you don't knock the fuck off, I'll get you the fuck out of here. Okay, I like that, yeah. Our boss is pretty okay with us. Taking the reins.

Taking it there, all right. Taking the reins. So why'd you have to kick him out? Catch her in Northern Minnesota. I mean, people get crazy. Tell us. Screaming at other people in the bar, starting fights. I mean, yeah, that's classic.

Yeah. Have you ever seen, like, any nudity to get a drink? I was at this one bar in Minnesota where they have bras hanging up on the thing. And the whole game there is you flash the bartender your deal. You get to hang your bra up on the wall and you get a free drink. I never seen that before, but now I've seen it all. I actually have not seen that before either. There's a lot of dusty.

Are you going to hold on? So hold on. So just for the listeners, if anyone's curious, I'm not curious. Yeah. This bar is, but just what is the bar? What's the address? I think it can go over there and get some. No, she says at home, dude. I'm telling you, but the amount of dust these bras collect on the ceiling is, I mean, and bras are expensive, I've heard. Well nowadays, yeah, geez. Yeah, not like the old days. So this is your platform right now, by the way. Yeah, geez. Yeah, not like the old days.

So this is your platform right now, by the way. Oh, gosh. Let's hear this. We're starting a new segment on this podcast, Charlie, called Managers Complaints. And we want a list of some complaints you have about your manager. Number one. He can't even hear you right now. Yeah, good. That's good. He tells me I'm dumb.

Number one. We've heard that. OK, number two. I mean, he seems like a pretty good manager. He's actually a really great manager. I have a hard time saying anything. Jesus Christ. All right. All right. Compl time saying anything. Jesus Christ.

All right, all right. Complaints about patrons. Oh. How long is this podcast? Hey, we can go. Oh, I was supposed to, I got a note that said to ask you about cookies. What's up with cookies?

So if we're gonna complain about patrons, we have a high demand over here who thinks he should get all the cookies that he wants and I should bake them at his needs. I bake the cookies for the bar. Oh, I did see the jar over there. You make those cookies in that jar? I do. Oh my gosh.

I make a lot of cookies. That is impressive. Do you get paid extra to bring those in? Not that. I mean. They throw you a little change here and there. I mean, that's a huge win for a bar. Can I say? A lot of cookies. I mean, you are might be making this bar in a lot of ways.

I mean, and I say that knowing there's a beaver playing piano above me. So there's a lot to compete with of what makes this bar great. But right up there, that's certainly one of them. One of them. Yeah. So patrons, though, patrons, biggest complaint. Oh, I'm going to say it. Regulars that think that they own the bar and you need to cater to every need. Now, I will say, are you a regular at a bar?

Are you coming at me? No, I just I've thought about this before. And I sometimes think that the regulars at the bar have put more money into the bar than the owners actually have. So, who owns the bar then is the question mark. Okay. Oh boy.

What regulars you have? I mean like, okay, so the regular is here. They're not obviously spending hundreds of thousands of dollars. Oh God, no. Look at them backtrack like that. God, you gave them that mean mark. It was the eye. It was the eye.

I don't like it. I like turned down. Miles just, he's a big man, but he quivers real quick when you get full play of the ball. I can tell you, she got offended that I said that regulars own the bar. Yeah. And so I felt like I had to back. You know what? Fuck that. I'm not backpedaling.

You you dip your toe in and you're tripled up miles. The regulars own the bar. It's OK. Wow. Work at one and tell me that. I love that. I'm just kidding. All right. So regulars who own the bar. What else? Ooh, God, I don't know. What about guys who put their used zins in the urinal?

I had somebody throw up in the sink. Oh, geez. That's way worse. In the urinal is a piece of cake. Yeah, yeah, that's a piece of cake, truthfully, because I've cleaned the bar in the mornings. That is a piece of cake. I had somebody puke in the sink and I made them go in there and clean it up with their hands. That's so disgusting. Oh, I mean, do you what they eat that night? Everything.

Yeah, you don't do what you were. You a little concerned that maybe that the reason why they threw up is because they had one of your cookies. Never because I'll tell you right now, I've had nothing. Compliments. Those cookies look good. I want to eat one. It will be one. And you throw up. Those are big ones. Don't come looking at me. All right. All right. All right, so vomiting in the sink. No, don't act like you own the place.

What if you're out back, you know, having yourself a smoke. I don't think you smoked, but let's say you did. Okay, nevermind. And then they walk around back and they grab a beer and let you know I grabbed a beer while you were out. Totally okay. Totally okay. What about refilling things, fixing things around here?

Like, you know, as you're out of TP, filling that going over to Sam's Club, getting some TP, bringing it over, refreshing it. Do you like those helpful things, those acts of kindness from the patrons? They don't do that. Oh, we're not doing that here. Oh, we do it as workers. Well, I feel like that, you know, some of the locals need to step up their game. Yeah, they do. Just actually, there's one.

There's one local that will step up the game, and that's Mikey Love. Mikey Love. Shout out to Mikey Love. He likes he likes double limes. And if we run out of limes for his drinks, he will go to the grocery store and get limes I like that bless him. Yeah, that's what you need Mikey love Yeah, my he loved like be a Mikey law. Yeah, Mikey love listen to Lauren and He was here Oh Mikey love was here. Yeah. Oh geez

anyways folks Listen to Lauren. You got your do's and your don'ts when you're in your small town bar. What happened there? Oh, did he call you dumb again? He's talking shit. Well, that's what bartenders do.

Yeah. Well, thanks for bellying up to the bar with us. Thank you guys for being here. And guys, remember, always tip your local Lauren. Charlie Thanksgiving is right around the corner. Is it that time of year? It is that time of year. And you know what goes great? Well, first of all, what's your favorite kind of pie?

I think blueberry pie. Mine's pumpkin. I know real original pumpkin. But you know, it go great with that blueberry pie. Yours, Charlie, little tippy cow miles vanilla soft serve tippy cow. I mean, it's basically like having whipped cream or ice cream. Yeah. How about that? And Hey, here at the bar today, they got, uh, they make cookies here. Let's try the cookie with the, uh, I'm going to get crazy.

Charlie, you're going to dunk. I'm going to dunk here. Wow. Cookie dunked in tippy cow vanilla soft serve. Pretty good. That's very good. I got to try it out. Yeah, dunker dunking in ice. So just when you thought there's not any more ways to enjoy tippy cow,

we just found a new one. Oh, my God. That is actually really good. Was it? Yeah, I'm glad we thought of this. So guys, next time you're having pie at Thanksgiving or you got a, just a cookie and a hankering for a little vanilla soft serve pickups, tippy cow and tip it on back. Cheers, Charlie. Cheers miles listeners. Listen up Thanksgiving. It's just around the corner, which means that it is time for football, family feuds, and maybe some backyard games. That'll get you a little out of hand, but hey, don't forget about those playful pups, dogs, bites happen more.

I'm sorry. Dog bites, not dogs, bites, miles. What am I doing? Dog bites. They happen more often than you might think. If you end up in a bind, cause old Fido took a chunk out of your leg. Don't worry Nikolay law here to help you Yeah, you got to be careful at Thanksgiving with those backyard football games. Yeah, you pull a groin or something Yeah, or break a leg. Yeah. Hey shoot, you know if

If there if there's an injury around, you get, make sure you give Nicolay a call. 100%. And he will get you that money that you need. He goes after the insurance companies so you don't have to. Nicolay law, ladies and gentlemen, give them a call. Guys, we got big news in the bellied up world. We now have a voicemail line.

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three zero three five zero nine five you can call in twenty four seven and again the number is two one eight three zero three Five zero nine five if you forget the number it's in the description of the podcast. So don't worry. My name is Kara. Hi, Kara. Bellion up to the- Hi, how are you guys? I'm like so flipping out right now.

I didn't think I'd get in touch with you. Oh, well, thanks for calling in, Kara. We're excited you did. Bellion up to the bar and tell us what's on your mind. Well, I would like to know if you have any advice on how to friend zone a guy in the most Midwest nice way possible. This is the most Midwest question. How to how to Midwest nice a guy into the friend zone. It's tough. It's tough.

Because if you're looking Midwest, nice feels sometimes like they're coming on to you, extending conversations longer than they should. Inviting you out to their cabin sometime. Yeah, we should get on the boat. You know, this is a tough one. So give us give us some details. What's been your current approach?

Just kind of ignoring the situation But this this has happened on a few occasions and it seems to be guys that I Have been friends with for a really long time and they tend to tiptoe across the line a little bit push there push the limit and just wondering how to friend zone them without ruining the breast hips and hurting their egos. Have you tried the technique of just being like, ah, man, you're just like a brother to me. You know, you remind me a just like a brother to me.

You know, you remind me a lot of my brother, bro. What's up, my bro? Well, we talked a lot of bro talk to him. Yeah, and not step bro. Don't say you remind me of a step brother. Yeah, because that's definitely going to give the wrong effects. Yeah. Yeah, because that's definitely going to give the wrong effects. Yeah. No, I consider myself to be kind of one of those, you know, tomboy girls, one of the guys, but sometimes it's just that approach doesn't work and I have to be a little more

firm or feel like I'm embarrassing them or hurting their ego way like just by ignoring them and I don't know. I don't know what to do Walk us through how we get to this point, right? So what usually had something has happened a few times Give us the last guy though. Yeah last guy. What was the steps? What happened? You started as. Then what happened to the point where it went a little too far in your mind? Um, so I have a particular friend who I hang out with pretty frequently and he's always trying to do nice things for me. like my furnace went out, he came over and tried to help me fix my furnace.

You know, just he does nice things for me and then I think he's expecting something that I don't want to give him. And the last incident, he came over to fix my furnace. And when he went to leave, he tried to kiss me and it was very awkward. I turned my head, ended up hitting the back of my head and he hasn't talked to me. Wow. Well, first of all, get a new furnace. It shouldn't break down that much. Yeah. And call an actual furnace guy, you know? Yeah. Hey, no, what he was doing, it was he was fixing something, but he also was breaking

something. The old auto body shop. Yeah. So he'd have to come back. Exactly. Oh, so I will say the next day my water heater went out. Did it really? Oh yeah. Yeah. It really did. Yeah. You could have just kissed them to get free labor out of it. You know, so no, it just seems like, I don't know. I don't know how to be. I'm a firm believer that men and women can be friends without any strings attached, but it just seems like the closer you get to someone and the more they get to know you and the more the friendship grows, when one person isn't feeling it and the other one is, how do you set those boundaries and in the most Midwest

nice way possible? Well, I think what you got to do is say, oh yeah. So I've been seeing this guy, you know, you got to talk about your invented guy. If you got no interest in this thing, you know, and talk about other guys you're interested in or something, just make them know that like this thing is, you're not even considering this situation. Yeah, I guess, I guess that could work. I'm telling you the lie. Call them, call them in. I know when you're lying. No, call them invent about another guy. That's always good. I had a new way. Yeah. And that's the thing is they've been around for numerous relationships that I've been in. They've been friends with my exes, you know, like, so they're still

trying while I'm in a relationship, you know, so I don't know. So they tried to kiss you while you had a boyfriend. No, but one did tell my boyfriend that if he wasn't careful, he was going to steal me, steal me away from him. Well, that's a warning that yeah, no, I'm kidding. That's not what you want. Let me, let me ask you, trying to get a sense of how old these folks are. How old are you? How old are these guys? A town of like 10 people and you're the only girl. What's going on?

Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no, I just have a lot of guy friends but I mean these are people that I've been friends with for you know 20 plus years. I'm 39. You're 39. Yes. Okay. Are you looking for someone yourself or are you kind of like nah I'm good?

I don't know. Kind of, but not really. More focused on myself and my career, so. Well, what do you do for work? I am in marketing in the promotional products industry. Got it, okay. Well, I think, you know, what you really have to do is just start lying to their face. I think that's the best thing I keep coming up with.

And even in that situation, you might have to take some tips from our East Coast friends. And just, you know, if the Midwest Nice isn't working, you're going to have to tell them to go off themselves. But that's just going to make them want to be with her more. Yeah, I think you're you're kind of in a like you've become like the uncatchable monster fish in the pond. You know, Charlie, that makes you want to keep going fishing every day till you catch

it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So so I think you kind of are caught in a bad situation here. What about what about just taking less care of yourself? You know, yeah, I think you're saying let herself go. Yeah, just let yourself go a bit. You're clearly too, uh, attractive and have way too good of a personality. You gotta start being just me. Yeah. Start taking

up smoking. Yeah. Maybe leak to some friends that you've picked up a disease, just the oral herb. Not, not even crazy. Just maybe leak that you have the oral herb as Charlie would say. Yeah. These guys do the Heisman with these guys more. You know what I mean? Keep them at arms. Play. Start wearing a lot of boxy flannels. Burp in public. Yeah. Yeah. Don't comb your hair. God, don't don't do that. Don't comb it. Yeah.

Tell them, tell them that might work. Could also let your armpit hair grow. There you go. Yeah. I don't know. I wouldn't say the attraction thing. I just think it's the personality and you know, the building the friendship over the course of a couple of decades, it just it sucks because I don't want to lose that friendship. But how much of a friendship is it if the other person isn't respecting me? So, yeah, that's that is a that's a Jerry Springer mic drop right there.

You know, they're not. Do you do you think guys and girls can be friends outside? Do you think they can legitimately be friends? Are there guys that you can honestly say are your friends and they've never wanted nothing from you? Yeah, yeah, plenty of guys. But it's just a select few who I think started out attracted to me.

I was with someone else. They didn't stand a chance and they just became my friend over the course of several years. And maybe, you know, they just tried and tried and tried. And you would think at some point you could only beat someone down. So for so long before they give up, but they're just not giving up. Have you tried? I'm going to be going to go crazy here. Have you tried just sitting them down and telling them the truth? Wow. Yeah. I don't want to get crazy. She tried it? Tried it, tried it. Didn't work. Who'd you try it with? This last person. The guy who tried to kiss the back of your head?

Yes, yes. What'd you say to him? On a Zoom meeting by the way, I was working It was on I was on a zoom call for work when this happened You were on a zoom call when he tried to kiss the back of your. Yeah, he tried to kiss me while I was working and on a call on camera. So all of my coworkers. They all saw. How did you bury this lead? So you're you're running a zoom meeting.

He's over there clink clinking away, fixing your heater. And he comes upstairs, says, well, it's all good. If that water heater goes out, you give me a call. Did he go in- Pretty much, yeah. Did he go in mouth open and everything? I don't know. I just saw him coming in trying to make the move and

what did your coworkers say? They nothing. They were speechless. Oh my God. Did you record that? It was so awkward. It was, I don't know if it's recorded. I don't want to watch it if it is. You were sitting at your desk on this Zoom call and he comes in or was it a standup desk? It's kind of a weird thing to walk into.

Sitting, sitting, yeah. Did he know you were on a call? I mean, people were talking and there were people on the video on my monitors. So I would assume so. Oh, no wonder this guy's pretty forward. Yeah. Well, I think, yeah, I just think this guy at the end of the day. We all have too many friends anyways. Yeah, just just cut this one. Cut this guy out. I mean, what?

Oh, he's he's a good conversation when you go out with all the friends and you're afraid to lose that. That's replaceable. Yeah. You know, you couldn't find another person that can fill that. Just cut this guy out. Seems a little too aggressive for my liking. If you want Charlie and I to sit him down and talk to him, we can too. That's what you need. You need a, you need a, you need a guy, one of your strongest guy friend. Yeah. The,

the, the, your best friend who's never tried to hit on you. You need him to be your guy. You need to be, you need a security team. You're well, he's the one that should have that sit down. He should be like, Hey, listen, you and her, it's not going to happen that way. It saves you the awkwardness you've tried. You don't need to spend all your time trying and trying and trying. If it doesn't work after the first time it's one and done sending your, sending your dog. You got to do what I do with my employees and just delegate. That's it. Deigate, delegate, delegate. Now what, what does she give them in return for that though? You would then have to negotiate their gal pal situations.

You have to wing woman them or something. I can do that. I can handle that. All right. Well, there you go. Well, we appreciate you calling in today. Good luck. Delegate that conversation out and good luck. And do not ask any guys to come help you fix your dryer. Just keep them out of your house when you're alone. Yes.

I'm gonna leave it to the experts from here on out, I think. Smart. Yep, there you have it Well, you have a good one and thank you guys Tell those fellas we say watch out for water heater repairman trying to kiss you Thanks guys and Charlie I'll be at your so in York, Pennsylvania Awesome, well, that'll be fun. Guys, you got to check for the free plug. You got to check out Charlie's show where he's where some places you're going.

This is coming out in November, Charlie. I'll be in La Crosse. I'll be in Pennsylvania that that I think was in October. So it's nice to see you at the show there. But all tickets, Charlie Barons dot com. You can find them. Is it in October in Pennsylvania, by the way? Am I right about that? Yes. I think it's the 23rd. Awesome. Well, we'll see you there. I'm looking forward to it.

I'll be there. Can't wait. We'll see you soon. Now. Thanks guys. Thank you. Bye. I feel a little dirty after that call. I feel like that guy went a little too far. We got to talk to the fellas, fellas, my guys, just cause a gal asks you to come over to fix your water heater does not mean green light. Go. No, it doesn't. You got to feel it out more, you know, I You got to read the room if she's on a zoom call. She's not exactly looking to get hot and heavy. Yeah Toss a couple feelers out there for don't go right for the kids either do one of those accidental handhold things

You know like where you accidentally like, like, I'll see you later. Yeah. Oh. And then if she does a thing where she grabs your leg at any point, do you get a hard there? Well, that's currently have a half chub. You're welcome. I mean, that's a good indicator. She's putting that energy out there. Let a eye contact miles, please get your hand off my legs. See? See? That's how you do it.

And ladies, you can be that direct. Are Miles and I still friends? Yes. Did he put his hand on my leg and I rejected it? Yes. So it can all happen. Can all happen. We just, it's communication.

Now that actually feels nice, Miles. See it? For those just listening, I touched his hair, not something else. Okay. Yeah. The hair on my head. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well guys, that's another episode of the bellied up podcast. We appreciate calling in. Also make sure you go check out the bellied up merchandise, blaze orange, wrote them for ditch chickens, baby. Look at that. Ready for hunting season. Charlie rock. Oh, you betchacha.com check it out. There we go. We'll see you in the next one folks. Tip your bartender.