Bellied Up - The Midwest Goodbye Is Killing This Business #208

Episode Date: July 9, 2026

We're at Zoo on 22 in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota. first caller runs a mowing business, but is having trouble with the Midwest goodbye when talking to customersr. Then, Megan calls in wondering how to get her husband to do more tasks around the damn house. She also owns a small bread business, so we help her out with that, too.Go to shadyrays.com and use code belliedup for 50% off 2+ pairs of polarizedsunglasses. #adWanna call in? Leave us a voicemail: 218-303-5095Timestamps:0:00 intro18:46 Will55:03 Megan

Hey folks, welcome to another episode of the Bellied Up podcast. My name is Charlie. We're here in Minnesota today. We're in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota area. And we are at the Zoo on 22. We got a good story about the Zoo on 22. So a little history, it used to be called Randies back in the day. And then it got bought by some people.

It was Randy's for a while. Then they renovated part of it. They changed the name to TJs. And then over the winter this last year, they redid the whole thing and named it the zoo on 22. And the reason is. Well, and we were confused, you know, we're like, oh, why would they name it that? I don't see what it is. And once we figured it out, it made a lot of sense, Charlie.

Quite a bit of sense. So the father of the owner was a sheriff in town. A dispatcher. Same church, different pew. and he when there was something going on at Randy's back in the day back in the day they didn't call this place Randy's they just says it's over at the zoo on 22 and the sheriff would head over and deal with whatever he needed to and I like that I like that too it's a it's a place with a great story yeah I don't know who TJ is no no shots to him but zoo on 22 that really hits yeah and usually you know you know know when you name sort of a bar, especially if it's a small town bar like this, you do kind of just keep whatever name it had. Yep.

You know? But in this case, I think it, I think it deserves the name change. Yeah, I agree. Also, there's a bear on the wall. And then there's a longhorn. And a bison. Bison. The Z.

Well, that's not how I spell it, Miles. It's not how I spell it. Roll herd. roll herd. But yeah. You know what I noticed driving over here, Miles? Hmm. Oh, no.

I stepped on your thought. What were you going to say? Oh, no. I was going to say is, um, this used to be like the dive-iest of all dive bars. It's a little bit fancier now, but I do think that they did a good job with it. They put a, they put a fireplace on the wall right over there. And you get these garage doors to go up. You got an indoor, outdoor situation here in the summer.

It's pretty nice. that's cool okay garage stores are new so if you're in the Detroit lakes area in Minnesota you got to get over to the zoo on 22 was this a gut job my house or was it a rea so that part is still the same over there but they tore this whole part off yeah this looks my dad actually did the concrete for this no you buried the lead here miles he buried it as well he did underneath all the ground I got to I got to ask your dad you know you always hear these stories. I hear Jimmy Hoff is buried underneath. You think my dad's burying guys under the ground? I'm, I don't think he is. I think he could. He could. That's why I always am on my best behavior

around your dad, around Bud, because Bud knows how to get a body. He's, his profession is tombstones. Yeah, that's true. You know? Yeah, you can make a mean tombstone. That's another thing I'm thinking, Kenny, that's, he's got his freezer full. You know, we only have, have limited space in this world, green space, and you look at all these cemeteries and you're like, can we just start burying people in foundations? Because how often are you going to the cemetery? You know, God bless both my grandparents, both my grandma, well, my grandma Sue is still alive, but my grandpa, Bob, he's in a mausolee. And because they ran out of space in the cemetery, mausoleum or whatever. And my nana and my grandpa Tiji, I mean, they are.

are there in a standard cemetery. How often are we going to the cemetery? But how often are we going to the bar? You know? And so I think it might be a nice way to honor them. We go visit them more, you know. And then you get a few people saying, you know, anytime you put up a new bar, you know, you might want to get.

That's actually a good idea. You know, having an actual cemetery, like bodies buried on the grounds of the bar, maybe is a little too much for people. You'd think? But if you spread people's ashes outside and then just have a plaque with all the names of the people who are buried here, that I think is maybe something people could handle. Rather than like burying bodies in the foundation of the place. Well, you know, to each their own miles, I still think it's a good idea.

I'm going to talk to your dad about that, the practicality of it, the legality of it. you know so when they make like starter homes that should all the foundation should be filled with dead bodies i mean i've seen you got to do like two foot wide walls i don't know if we're gonna i wouldn't fit in an eight inch foundation wall charlie well you know it's got to go six feet deeper then too yeah yeah that's true there are some problems but i'm not saying you know you can just have them like you know burnt up a bit you know like uh like so you're looking at me you're like yeah he ain't gonna fit in the eight inch wall but if we crisp them up a little bit he'll shrink well and then we could just shove them in the wall like

you're saying with the ashes you know what people have baked idea hey Jared's firing on all cylinders today that's a stupid idea we already lost half our listeners at this point screw it miles you know what i know it's coming from fargo to here is that well i wanted to hear you the rest of your thought on what we're going to do. Oh. So now you're into cremating and just putting them into concrete foundation. I mean, basically, you know, we've all used the quick set before. It kind of looks like ashes to a degree, you know?

What messes with the structural foundation? But you see, if we if we cremate people, we don't have to put them in concrete. And actually, it's funny because ash is part of a concrete mix. Yeah, I was just, I was just going there. We're like on the same brainwave. So, I mean, let's just, you know, you can buy. a little starter set, you just get your quick set or, you know, whatever you're using. It's not what you're using for this kind of foundation work.

But even a quick set, you know, that post, that little footer I just put down, you know, why not have, you know, your loved ones, why not remember them every time you sit on your deck? Yeah, I think that's a good idea. You know, I mean, you got to look at what's the end result here. What are we trying to accomplish? Yeah, I don't mind that, you know, it's like, You get a bag, a quick set. Uh-huh.

You sprinkle the ashes in there. Yes. You mix them up and you make like stepping stones at your cabin. It's perfect. It's perfect. I like that. Let's patent it. It's a bellied up exclusive idea.

Don't steal it, folks. I don't know how we can patent this. Well, we can just come up with a name, you know? Oh, memory stones. Um, that's a bad one. That's, um, dead, um, dead set. Dead set isn't bad actually. If I saw some concrete that was called dead set, I might, you know, that's not going anywhere.

You know? Yeah. Yeah, I can even, I can even, I can even, I only have to take that down a foot. If we could figure out a way to get the ashes into some like spray foam, we could, we could have it be memory foam. Me? And every time you're warm in your attic, you're like, you know. Spray them in the attic. There you go.

And then people are worried about ghosts and stuff like that. But if you, that's only if you're ignoring the dead, you know, but if you're acknowledging the dead, they don't creep you out, you know? Yeah. And that would be great, dude. People talk mad smack about ghosts, but I would like a ghost, man. Wouldn't that be great? Wouldn't it be cool to do it?

You're that lonely in this life so at this current moment that you're like, Fuck, I'll even just take a ghost. Well, I'm not saying. I'll take a ghost to talk to all day. It's extra value entertainment, you know? Imagine doing a podcast with a ghost called The Other Side. Yeah, I mean, if you could, that would be the most watched podcast of all time. Well, I think you could.

You just need to harken the right ghost. I mean, it can't be a boring ghost. And how does Charlie Barron's harken the right ghost? I just told you a memory foam. We built it. it's here, Miles, where you just have to bring the ghost in, you know? These are just thoughts. This is, now there's no one listening to this damn podcast.

Son of a gun. You know what I noticed driving here from Fargo to Minnesota? What did you realize? It is the great North Dakotans were just like, all right, no trees. Draw the line right here. Seriously, as soon as you cross the line, you just, you get foliage, you know? As soon as you cross the line. Yeah, I mean, there's a river there that helps break that.

That's how it got drawn. It's because the red river's right there. I know that. Yeah. I just wanted you to say it. But you are right. It's like you cross the border and it is flat as can be and there's no trees. Yeah.

But here, here I feel like I'm back in Wisconsin maybe. It's wild. Wild. Well, this is a cool spot, Miles. Thanks for inviting me here. It's nice to come. Hey, you got a little white spot on your shirt. What happened there?

I don't know what that is. That looks like a, is that some baby drill? Let me try to scrape it off. No, it's like a glue of. Oh, that's, yeah, you got glue on that. Silicon or something. A little cock. Yeah.

I have a little cock on my shoulder. Uh-huh. Yeah, hey, that's fine. I watched TikTok. This is just dumb, but watched TikTok of a guy who went to like Costco or something and he put a couple of tubes of cock on his roof. Yeah. And just drove around and filmed people.

telling him that he had cock on his roof. The most low-brow male humor ever. That's, no, that's a genius idea is what it is. You got some cock on your car. Like, just people just telling them that. Very funny. You got two cocks on your car. He did it with two?

I don't remember exactly, but just know whoever made that video. I laughed pretty hard at that. You know, that's an idea that you get jealous of. Like, why didn't we think of that? Oh boy. I'm excited to do another podcast with you today, Miles. I'm still hung up on your, I'm just thinking of all the ways we can bury the dead. Well, and you know, it's what you really want to accomplish is remembering the person. And the more you see that person, they're whatever it may be, you know, the more you remember them.

Yeah. So out of sight, out of mind. I think what we should do is just start a company. that tailors how the dead is remembered based off of who they were. Do you know what I mean? Okay. So like, let's say they're really into football. Let's grind them up.

Let's sprinkle them on the football field is like, you know, they have the rubber pellets on a turf field. Oh, yeah. Make some. Just chop them up into little tiny pellets and then sprinkle them. And then they're just there forever. You know, if a guy, maybe you, Charlie, you're a big fisherman. Yeah.

Maybe when you die, they chop you up and your kids maybe someday or your nieces and nephews, if you don't have any kids, they use you as bait for fishing. Or you could be asht up and then go into a bird feeder. Yeah. Birds could eat you. Yeah. Well, I don't want to. But then you get to fly with the birds forever. I'm going to kill every bird that eats me.

I'm filled with toxins. Yeah, but we'll just microdose them. Yeah. So just I kill mulberry. Multiple birds. Hey, but here's the thing. You get to decide this yourself. So how would you, you're our first client.

Yes. Well, how would you like us to remember you? So burn me up, burn me up, mix me in with some, some graphite and make me a fishing pole. Okay. Mm-hmm. There we go. See, wouldn't that be awesome? That'd be great.

And then we can auction them off. We'll keep one for your family and then like everything and go to charity. Oh, that's nice. They go to like Bird Watchers Foundation and we'll auction off, you know, 15 fishing poles that are made of Charlie Barron's and they'll go for at least a couple hundred bucks. Kind of cool, man. Yeah.

The Catholic Church does a lot of that sort of stuff. There's always, yeah, there's this one cross that I remember we had at this Catholic church that I was this altar boy at. And the cross had this little thing in the middle of the cross. And in that little thing, it was a piece of splintered wood that they said was from Jesus' I know exactly what you're talking about I saw the same thing. Who had Jesus's cross and then chop that thing up? The Catholic Church.

No. The amount of stuff the Catholic Church has in the basement of the Vatican is insane. I don't think you realize. Oh, they got books that they pulled from the Bible. They have to be the wealthiest entity on earth. And they're still hoarding, you know? How cool would be to do an estate sale at the Vatican? like how exciting would that be we could solve world hunger with it probably they probably

solve every issue in the world that the vatican just sold all their shit you think so but they won't well i mean not just the vatican i mean there's like a hundred people that could just sell all their shit and we'd solve all the problems that's true that's true uh i mean it's it's what are we even doing here miles what are we even doing let's just go solve the world's problems we did you're right we already did. We finish the dead set. Dead set, baby. I like that. That's for the foundation and then memory foam for the foaming version. That's cool.

Jared, how would you, if you were, if Charlie and I started this company and you were a client of ours, how would you want to be remembered? Charlie wants to be 15 fishing poles. For me personally, it would be cool if I was like an NFL football. Oh, you, you want to be the pig skin. Yeah. Not a kicking ball either. I want to be the real ball. Yeah, you want to be one.

It's thrown. A kicking ball, like one that they beat up, beat the hell out of it? There's two different balls in the NFL. There's like the one that they use for regular play. And then there's a ball that the kickers have that are specifically for kicking. You know what's crazy? They're the same ball, but then the kicker gets like 24 hours or something to like rough it up and whatever. That I knew.

That I knew. Yeah. The kicker just gets to beat that. hell out of that ball that'd be a funny video what the kicker does with that ball in the 24 hours take it to dinner it's yeah it's yeah it's like he takes it to dinner before he starts really going to turn on it's like it's like it's like letting your dog do whatever he wants before he put him down dude that's i can't believe they let you do that they get to take it home literally take it home with them i don't know i doubt it pretty much do anything in what you want with it what if they

put flubber on it flubber yeah what's flubber oh my god Oh, like the Robert Williams? Yeah. Oh, okay. I don't know. I haven't thought about that. Well, you should. It's a great film, great American film.

You thought about why they don't put flubber on it. But you know what I mean? There's all sorts of things you could do to a football. That's not that. That is why they're kicking these 68 yarders these days. But also for the NFL, let them do it because it's a better product for them to put out. Well, then why not just let everyone jack themselves up on steroids? Because that's a legitimate argument online that people are wrestling with.

And now there's a new league that's like you can be on any substance you want. Not football, but like they had like a, do you see that? The Olympics. The what? Enhanced games. The enhanced games where they did Olympics and they don't drug test anyone. So you can be on whatever. And actually, an astonishing amount of people who said that they were clean ended up winning.

Oh, really? Yeah, like they showed that like being enhanced like that didn't necessarily. Now you're not also pulling from the cream of the crop. Yeah, you're getting like the most people who are willing to do. Because the juice that you put in you, I mean, it makes your balls small. It makes. No, it does. I know.

I mean, why, who cares at this point? But I guess money. You know, you get those, you get that one guy who's like looks maxing or whatever, like chopping the, hitting himself in the face. doing the micro breaks or whatever to get those swollen cheekbones. Oh, I know about clavicular. What is what is Ryan always say? Cleviker got Framedog by USC Frat Boy or something.

I heard what it was. That's a good life. It's something like that. Absolutely frame bog. Would you ever do that? Would you ever look, Max, Miles? Like, let's say you have all the kids you want to have. How do you know I'm not already?

I mean, I thought. you were with that mustache. How'd you like with being a mustache guy? I don't know. I got a video with some firefighters here coming up and I think I might shave it again. Anne's going to hate it. She doesn't know this by the way. So she didn't like it when you did it. No, she's glad

it's back. Yeah. Yeah, Randah wasn't too thrilled with the clean shave look. Isn't that weird? It's weird. I mean, I thought I looked like you know like, I don't know. I just, I feel like a little facial hair

really ties the room together, you know. It's like a nice rug. It is. It is like a nice rug. You know, it just says I didn't try too hard to be here today. I mean, really the rest of my energy kind of says that, but first glance, you want a little. I think with or without the beard, people are feeling that by you, Charlie. That I didn't try too hard.

Yeah. Like those pants. Should we do some callers? Let's call some people. Well, I am. curious what you're up to today. Put that on the list. What I'm up to today?

Yeah. Oh, I did an oil change in my truck this morning, and I picked up a couple leftover bags of mulch that have been old and decayed at a customer's house. I brought them to the dump. And, yeah, now I'm sitting here in my truck and got to go mow my parents' lawn a little bit. And now I'm talking to you guys. Wow, that's a full day. Did you drop the plug in the oil tin? Oh, I sure did.

Actually, the oil pan spilled all over the driveway, and that was quite a treat to clean up. Yeah, was it still hot? Oh, it was real hot. Yeah, that sucks. Did you get out in time? Oh, I got out of the way in time, but I got some grass seed that I put down that came in real nice,

and I think I just killed everything that I did. Oh, that sucks. That sucks. They got to invent, they got to put a chain on that plug, you know? Yeah, chain on the plug, and I don't know. I think my oil pan had a hole in it or something, and it just got all over the place. Oh, it wasn't just you. I guess that's partially my fault.

I probably should have checked it before I started using it, but, you know. Yeah. How did you get a hole in your oil pan? I don't know. It's old. It's probably like 10 years, 15 years old, you know. Yeah. So that'll happen.

So this is a Tuesday when we're recording this. Yeah. What do you do for work that this is described it? That's it. Man's working all day long. A handyman or something? No, I'm, I'm a, well, I'm a landscaper. So, you know, today I actually got all my jobs.

usually I keep Monday, Tuesday open for like project work. And then Wednesday through Friday, I cut grass. So I actually did a job yesterday that I thought was going to take two days. And luckily enough for me, it only took a day. So I was able to catch up on some things that I've been putting off for a couple months. That's cool. Nice, dude. Nice.

Yeah. Well, why don't you belly up to the bars with us and tell us what's going on? So my reason for calling you guys was, as I mentioned, I, you know, cut grass, good majority of the week. I probably have somewhere around like 25, 30 yards that I do. And I do it by myself. So I don't have a crew. People work with me that kind of moves things along. So oftentimes when I'm done cutting, I get my money at the end of each, each mow from the customer or, you know,

They leave it under the doormat, but more often than not, they come out and talk to me to give me either cash or check however they're paying me. And usually they like to sit there and talk to me for a good 25, 30 minutes. Oh, yeah. And being by myself, you know, it's kind of like one of those things where I have to keep moving or else I'm going to be behind it. I won't get anything done. So my issue is that it kind of, it's like a Midwest goodbye. that I get stuck in every house I go to for the most part. So I wanted

to get your guys' advice on what to do and how to handle this. My fiance says I'm just too nice and I don't tell people that I have to keep going. But she doesn't believe me, but I do. I do tell them,

listen, I got to go and they don't care. They just sit there and keep yapping to me for quite a while. I believe you well. All right. I have a potential solution for you. you ready? Yeah. Email invoicing.

So I do that. But then the problem is I still have to, because I'm not big enough to take card or, you know, like a automatic payment through. Uh-huh. Whatever. My ass. Definitely. My ass. You.

Or is this an IRS from? This is an IRS at you is what this is. Oh, no. I pay, I pay my taxes. My dad's an accountant. I have to pay my taxes. I can't not pay my taxes. Do you use QuickBooks?

Well, I use Jobber, but it's the same difference. Yeah. Basically. I mean, there's a ton of software that allow you just to take payment right there on the invoice when it gets sent out. Right, but you got to pay for it. The problem is it's like an extra, I don't know, a couple hundred bucks a month to do it. Well, time is money. There's got to be away.

Let's back it up here, Mom. Let's say you're right. Let's say you're right. They're still going to come out. They're still coming out to chit-chat. That's the thing. Even if it's not to get paid, they still, they see my truck pull up. They hear the lawnmower go on, you know, especially if you got a couple of houses right

next to each other. Yeah. You know, they see you, they hear you. And they're, they usually always come out. Like even if they're a Venmo or a Zell type of payment, because that's fine. And usually some people just do that. And I'm like, it's a breeze. But when they're home and they, you know, they are, even if they're not paying,

they will just come out and sit and talk to me. And they'll ask me questions. They like, oh, what do you think about? So they want advice on certain things. And I'm like, I don't have the time for this night. I wish I did, but I go. You don't have time not too well. You don't have time not to.

You know how many people out there of lawnmowers? Yeah. They're not. They're not just getting you for your lines, my gosh. my guy they're getting you for your for your gift to the gap they like you well this is part of the business and and you know that's what i keep telling myself is like well you know i shouldn't be so you know not upset about it but i don't know what the right word would be for but you know without them i wouldn't have a business and i wouldn't be you know doing what i do so i do try to

give them a good like five or ten minutes you know i give them some of my time and that that's fine And I'll do it. But it's when it goes on and on. And, you know, it's one of those things where at a certain point, I do have to go. Sure. You know, sure. Now, one thing you could steer into the skid here and know that you're doing that and ask them for referrals at the end of it. You know what I mean?

Oh, yeah. So use it as a sales technique. Yes. I have done that. And luckily, those folks that I do have that are, you know, they will do that for me, especially the ones that I first started with when I got started several years back, they're very good with that. They're like, well, this guy's a good guy.

He's a nice person. He shows up what he's supposed to or says he's going to. And they have given me referrals. And those folks, I don't mind sitting and talking to. But there's some that are just, you know, they just like to back and forth, indecisive, can't make up their mind type people that are, that kind of, to, you know, get under my skin a little bit. Okay.

Are you at a point where you can hire a closer? I thought about that. Yep. Yep. The problem is it's a little bit, what's the word? You know, a lot of people want to do full time. They want five days a week and I can probably only really give them like two or three. And then usually when you steer into those people that are only four, a couple days a week,

They're not the most reliable. So that's the issue I've run into. Thinking about the wrong way, Will. Every company has a sales guy, a stakes and wine guy, right? Yep. Okay. You're going to find a steaks and wine guy that can just push a lawn more. He's going to go out there and do the trim at the end.

All right? So you're out there riding the big hog. All right. You get done with that. Roll it right onto the ramp. While you're rolling on the ramp, you got your guy. out there. Your little push boy, okay? And your push boy, he's a good

looking guy. He's got the gift of the gab. He's going to stay there after. Sounds a lot like a pool boy. Pool boy. Find a pool boy. I was going to say that. Find a Chuckie guns, okay? And tell him to wear something skimpy, okay? Unless it's a fellow's house, put a flannel

on over it. Make it respectable. But this guy, he's running interference for you, all right? He sees you're wrapping up. He's out there with the push more. He sees the guy come up. He He stops them more. Hey, Frank, how you doing, man? Cash, you're looking good. Have you been working out? Let me see those hands. Wow. How have you been? How's the wife? How's the kids? You know? And he gets him going. Meanwhile, Will, you're out of earshot. You're in the car. You're off to the next job. He then has 45 minutes to talk to him and get new business and then meet you at the next house. And the whole process starts over. You need a pool boy. You need a pool boy. That's not a, that's not the worst idea.

I've heard to be honest. It might be the best idea you've heard. It is the best idea I've heard. The only thing I worry about is, you know, if they do have their own transportation and their own equipment is, are they going to come in under me and take it from me? Not if you treat them right, Will. Not if you treat them right. And no, you're giving them the lawnmower, right?

And they got their own car. You can just put the lawnmower in the trunk. I thought he was the weed whacker guy. Well, I was just saying the little lawnmore, if you don't have a little lawnmower, If you don't have a weed whacker, you just get that lawmower over there and do the, you can do the weed wagging with a little lawnmower if you want. But give him a weed whacker. You're right. It's smaller.

It's less expensive, you know? He doesn't think he can take your business because he, I mean, but you treat him right. You give him a little cut, a little snort, a little bed on the action, you know? And he'll be motivated by that extra 10% of a new business he brings in. And, you know, if for some of them, he's got to stay there an hour after and, you know, help someone out. You let them do that because, but then the next thing you know, we'll have child support, and that might be an issue. Yeah, that was my thing.

So am I supposed to make this guy, like, wear a cutoff key tank top or something for, I work a lot of older ladies that are like my clientele? And you tell, you tell them you do not show up on this job site with his sleeves on. I don't even think you need to spend money on a shirt. Just go shirtless. Yeah, shirtless is good. But now if you got a, you know, some fellas aren't, aren't as, well, either way. It's like the models in front of American Eagle with their shirts off or like Hollister back of the day.

Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That's exactly. Hollister. The pie isn't doing that anymore. So you just hire an old Hollister boy. That's, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Put a Craigslist that out. Okay. Craigslist is in our marketplace or something like that. Yeah. Go on Craigslist and go men seeking men. and I'm sure you'll get you'll get a bunch of good pool boys that you can hire.

Yeah. This is a genius idea. I mean, the other. That's not a bad. Yeah. I have another idea. Go ahead, Miles. Why don't you?

You could get ahead of it and quite literally. So when you show up to a job, you go up to the front door wanting to give and gab to start. One, then they kind of get put on their heels and a little bit like, I don't know if I want it. You're now making me talk to you, and I don't really love that. I want to be the one to initiate it. So they're going to be less likely to sit and chat a bunch. And you always have that built-in excuse that, well, I better get mulling the lawn. You know, because you haven't done it already.

But if they are talking to you when you've already got it done, then they think you got all day. Turn your defense into offense. Because they're going to get a little antsy being like, all right, dude, just go mow the lawn. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Um, another thing, uh, Will, is you could have a little book. Uh, and every day you've got a new excuse. Okay.

So you can't each time say your grandma just passed and you got to get to the funeral. But that gives you a four weeks, at least if you get all your grandparents, uh, with parents, grandparents, diarrhea works a lot. Yep. Uh, you got kids, Will. No, no kids, but, you do now. You do now. You got three of them.

Maybe five. kids and they're all in sports. And they're all sick this week. So there's two more weeks. You got all kids are sick and then the kids, I got to go to a kid's game. Yep. And they're in a lot of sports.

They're playing football, baseball, soccer, lacrosse. In the winter, they're curling if you're doing snow removal. Yeah, you have very active kids,

Will. What happens if they start asking for pictures of the kids? They want to know, oh, what's, you know, do I just kind of. You got Google,

right? Google some kids. Just take a photo of you, go into AI, and just say, I want you to add three kids into this photo. There's plenty of pictures of children on Google. Just Google it. Yeah. I don't recommend that. I think you should go with AI children.

I don't think you should be Googling pictures of children. Just you don't need to see pictures. Tell them you don't believe in taking pictures. Cute pictures of children on Google. Tell them you don't believe in taking pictures of your kids. because you want to keep their identities private. Yeah, that works. Also, you know, if I threw them in AI,

it'd probably give them like, you know, six or seven fingers on one hand. Which is another excuse. You're like we're having their digits. This week we're having digit removal surgery. So I got to head out. Which one of those options do you like the most there, Will? I do.

I think I think the excuse book might be the, No, we'll get yourself a pool boy, dude. He thought he was going to choose the pool boy, right? Yeah, because here's the thing. If you have an excuse every week, you're going to start losing business. They're going to catch on to you. Well, some weeks, some, you know, the homeowner's not even there. So it's like a mix.

Exactly. So it's like a mixed bag of like different people every week are the culprits. You know what I mean? So like I can kind of spread the wealth of the excuses and make sure that I'm not. Using them all at once. The problem with the pool boy is I just, I don't, at the moment, I don't want to pay anybody else to do it. No, he's working on commission. Oh, I guess that could work.

Yeah, pay him five bucks to do the weed whacker bit, you know, it's only going to take them 10 minutes. Five bucks for 10 minutes. Pretty good rate, right? 50 cents a minute. It's 30 bucks an hour. Yeah, I mean, that's lawyer money right there. And then, you know, after that, Um, just commish.

All right. Well, I do, I do think we glazed over an actually good idea of have the conversation before you mo it. What do you think about that idea, Will? I don't know. I most, more often than not, they don't, they don't want to come to the door until I'm, until I'm done. I know. Exactly. They like, yeah, but they like hide in the house.

Like, because I have tried. go knock on the door. Oh, I do. I've had times when I've knocked on the door and, you know, you're sitting there knocking, you wait two, three, four, five minutes and and no one, no one comes to the door. So you're like, well, I might as well get started. And then you're halfway through the lawn and they come outside.

You've got to shut the mower off and start talking to them. Okay. All right. I know. I know on your, on you betcha, you guys had that conversation about how it kind of, you know, pisses you guys off when you have to shut the machine down and talk. snugs. You know, so he gets one of those things.

Do you think that the noise of the mower gives you a way out there and then they start poking their head around? Oh, definitely. Okay. Definitely. I mean, maybe you need to go old school with like an old school real mower. No, like the one that is just the blades that you walk by. That's the sound I'm trying to make.

Yeah, I used to work on a golf course and I have used one of those a couple times. So maybe you could try that. You could try a sithe. Sithe. I did actually see a video the other day. I think it was on Facebook as some guy cutting his lawn with a scythe. He was doing it barefoot too.

I was like, that's a good way to lose a toe or a foot. Siphon with no boots? Yeah, no boots, no nothing. Just bare feet. Wow. I mean, you are in a big dilemma. I get it. I get it.

But you are able to get it all done in those three days. for the most part i mean when you got obviously your rain days so one one of those three days out of the week is generally a lighter day if the weather cooperates but if it's not then you know friday friday is usually the catch-up day so you're i'm moe until like seven seven 30 at night sometimes and all do all these people work from home or they're retired they're always home you know some of them do work from home others are retired but the ones that don't work from home for whatever reason it could be 1 o'clock in the afternoon and they're home from work somehow and I'm like how are you home all right I don't understand it here's the last idea will you hire a

private investigator for all your clients and this PI is going to map out how their days work and when they're not at home that will determine your your mowing schedule exactly Aaron's is on fire. I'm just ripping through these. You're going to be known as the ghost scaper because they're going to come home and it's all going to be done. He's never doing it when I'm here. I ran out for groceries and he did it while I was gone. Yeah, you're going to be like the Santa Claus of Landscapers.

There we go. They're going to be like, does he even exist? But they don't know how you do it. They don't. They're like, he did all. They never see me. They never see you, man. You could be a nighttime mower as well.

You know how like they remove snow at night? Yeah, you know, you can remove snow at night, but you can't cut the grass at night. What's that about? I know. I have thought of doing that, but it gets to a certain hour of the evening when I think it would piss a lot of the... Definitely pisses people. It's not the whole owner. He's got more people coming out to talk to them.

It's like, you know, worse. Everyone's in their nightgowns. People still doing nightgowns. I don't know. I've seen a few in at least robes once or twice. That's hot. Yeah. Being a single guy,

are you single guy, Will? Oh, no, I'm not. I'm getting married in August. Oh, congratulations.

Thank you. That's wonderful. Yeah. Is she happy about it? Oh, she's very happy about it. We're both happy about it. About getting married or?

Yeah, gay married, you know? Yeah. I mean, I guess that's a question. You want to check in on that, Miles. I know. I know.

Good. That's real good. Yeah. I like that question. Yeah. Right. Right. Now, have you ever had it?

Are you happy about it? Yeah. Me? Oh, yeah. I'm very happy about it. She's a wonderful lady. Have you ever had any temptation on the job site? Oh, no.

Oh, no. Okay. Has anyone ever tried to tempt you with a good time? Believe it or not, they haven't. Okay. All right. Have you gotten any fishing spots out of these conversations? You know, I'm not too much of a fisher, unfortunately.

Have you gotten any beneficial information from these chit chats? Here and there, I've gotten a couple things. You know, a lot of, I don't, you know, I'm working out. I'm busy all day, so I don't really check my, phone and more often than not to give me some good like news what's going on in the world that I didn't know what's happening and I'm like oh good to know see well you know what maybe a little person the person contact is is good for you know yeah I mean no I trust me like I don't mind the the few minutes chit chat here and there but when when I there's a few people that do like to go

on and on about certain things well now we got to well we got to ask are you've I Are you doing the standard, are you following the protocol of the Midwest goodbye on all these? Are you giving them a wealth, I suppose? I do. I do say, well, I'll see you next week, you know, and I kind of start to do that. And they're like, oh, yeah, and then they keep going, you know, and I give them at least a couple. Well, I suppose I should get going or I'll see you next week. And then, you know.

And then you've got to start your tractor immediately as you're saying it. so you can't hear what they're saying next and just start driving. Maybe that's my mistake because usually when I'm done mowing, I load the mower onto the trailer and then I grab my weed whacker and blower. So maybe I need to leave it in the yard. And then I start it once I say, well, I'll see you next week and I start it. There you go. There you go.

That's it. Actually, that's probably the most practical. Yeah. I really do like the idea of you getting a stick. The first time he tries it as a borer won't start. Oh, yeah. That'd be my luck, too. Yeah.

Well, well, you know, you sound like a nice guy and I can see why people want to just keep chatting with you. You know? I know. So I have a couple things before I let you guys go. To buy seller trade? No, no, I just sold my very first mower that I started my business with. I did just sell it. I was planning on if I hadn't sold it,

I was going to do the buy or the buy sell trade for that. Okay. But that has since gone. Congrats on the sale. So I don't have anything. Thank you. What are your other questions? So, Miles, I know your office complex or office had a bunch of HVAC woes.

And it primarily came from the air filter, right? Yep. So I have to say, have you guys ever noticed that with refrigerators, it's the same problem with the water filter? That you've got to constantly be changing it. If you don't change it, the whole fridge will stop working.

I haven't experienced that, no. But now I'm nervous about it because my fridge here at the lake has got the alerts that I need to change the filter, so I've probably got to get that done here soon. Yeah, I don't know. know what the deal is, but I, it's been like three times now where the first time I didn't know, so it took like six months to figure out. But the water dispenser and the ice maker just like in the lights in the fridge stopped working. And I couldn't figure it out. I thought I thought there

was wiring issues with the fridge. I thought there was something behind, you know, inside the fridge that was wrong. And then I don't know, one day I got fed up with it. And, and I don't know, one day I got fed up with it and I said to my fiance I said could you please on your way home stop and grab a water filter and sure as shit I put it in the spot where the filter goes and the whole fridge started working again

it just I it was it was a miracle I don't know all right well now it's no longer change your air filters is just change your filters and those water filters like 60 bucks I can we terrible and they also don't do that much the fridge ones like they don't thinky one

Those aren't taking shit out of the water, you know? No. Yeah. It's that's what I was not reverse osmosis. I don't even know why you need a filter. Yeah, I put the reverse Ozzy in, too. You have the countertop one. It's not even close to the same.

I'm talking at my con or my duplex. Got it. Yeah. Reverse Ozzy. Reverse Oz, baby. I call it the RO system, but. Riaz. Ro, my row system.

Oh, you got to get that reverse osie. That's actually a great PSA for the people out there. Change your fridge filters. Yeah, if you ever have a problem with the water, the ice, or anything like that, just the first thing you should try is your water filter because... We can put a man on the moon, but filters across the world are buckling humans at the knees. Oh, it's terrible. It's filters are our Achilles heel as a society.

They are. Exactly. But, uh, that filter thing's bullshit, too, you know. It is, it is bullshit. Like, realistically. It's a tax. Like, we had clean water. Then they, they screwed it all up with their P-Fas, you know.

Now we got to buy filters. It's a tax on the people. Well, I can't just drink it. I can't just drink it out of the top, you know? Like, that's the. You can. That's the, well, you can. But sometimes it tastes really bad.

Like, I used to live in New York City in that top. water was unbelievably disgusting. Like you could smell it coming out of the top. It was crazy. Yeah, you don't want to smell your water. No, no, that's not a good sign usually. Well, we solved a lot on this. You know what?

That can be another way to get out of conversations. Just start getting into every conspiracy theory. Each day it's new conspiracy theory and you just ramble on and on about it. then after a while they'll be saying, well, I suppose. Yeah, they're going to think I'm crazy, but I guess that's not the worst thing in the world. As long as he cuts the grass, nice. Yeah, that's all that matters, right? Just put the grass in the bag.

Are you a bagger or a mulcher? It depends. Sometimes I have a couple lawns that just grow because they have irrigation. So they grow like crazy. So I'll bag them. or I'll if I don't have the bagger because it's kind of a pain to put the clippings into the truck and then at the end of the day unload the heavy tarp of clipping so I'll either that or I'll just mow it like three times and just kind of you know chop it up to nothing yeah nice

but yeah and Charlie one one thing for you so my fiance she used to live in Florida sorry and she worked yeah I know that's what I said but I when I first met her and she told me that. I said, I'm so sorry to hear that. But she used to work at a Packers Bar. And somewhere Which one? Florida. I, I, I,

what city? I wish I, like, I think near Fort Lauderdale area ish. Okay. Okay. Yeah. And I told her that I was going to be. You know every Packer Bar is going to.

I bet to a lot of Packer bars in Florida, specifically. I've been. You've been to the one by Fort Lauderdale? I think so. I don't remember the name. What was on the walls at this Packer Bar? There was

there wasn't a lot at the one I'm thinking of. There was like one Packer's sign hanging above the bar. The answer is Packer's stuff and then you would have got it right no matter what. Well, if there was Packer's stuff, I would have told you exactly what it was.

We were at this one outside of Miami. It had a Reggie White autographed jersey. Redgie White Autographed Jersey I hadn't seen one of those in a while And then it had these little plaques Of everyone from the 96-97 team

The Super Bowl team had a Wheaties box up there They had a little Shadowbox Sort of like an aquarium A terranium of all this different Packers gear I wish I remember that name But that was just north of Miami a ways I think in Hollywood

But anyways, that's neither here nor there. What was your question there, Will? So she, like, she used to work at one. And when I told her I was coming on the show, she said, I had to ask you if it's just a thing at that particular bar. But she said that the Packer fans that would go in there and eat or drink, they would tip absolutely horribly. Oh, no. I know that you I know you're a big advocate of always tip your bartender

or whatnot. So are they, are they all bad tippers or is it just that? I'll tell you. I haven't heard that about Packer. No, it's not Packers fans. You just got to hang out with Chuck for a weekend. No.

No. No, no. I tell you what that is right there. I did pick up the tab yesterday. I did pick up the tab yesterday. Oh, Miles, I picked up some tabs here, emotionally to. Listen, Will, what that is, is that's a Florida Packer fan, okay? That's a fixed income Packer fan.

That's a, I'm retired, I'm a snowbird. I'm not making money anymore, so I'm on a strict budget. And they probably went over budget with the booze during the game, so they got a little light on the tipping. That's a fixed budget. Snowbird Packer fan. It's quite the save there, Chuck. That's facts.

Fair enough. Florida is known for the fixed budgets. Cheapacker fans? Well, you want, if you want tips in Florida, you got to go to that cocaine money down in Miami. Okay. You know, I mean, those guys will tip you in cash, and you can probably smell that dollar and get a little buzz.

But I think you're dealing with, yeah, these fixed income i got my place in florida some a lot of i know a guy he's got a trailer down there and um you know that's how he can make it work financially and that fellow he's not tipping for shit i can tell you that james is his name nice guy but polish fella terrible type that has anything to do but yeah so anyways good guy though good guy he'll he'll help you hide a body if you have one. Well, that's good to know. Yeah, but yeah, not a good tip.

But he's not picking up the table. He won't tip for shit. No, he's more of a manual labor. I mean, some of those guys, they'd help you, you know, bar back a bit just to make up for it. But apparently they're not offering that. So sorry to your girlfriend, but really it's not a Packers thing. It's not a Wisconsin thing.

Okay. We tip. All right. We tip. Well, I'll make sure to let her know then. Yeah. You do that. Well, dude, it was good talking to you.

And hopefully you took something away from this so you can apply. I definitely did. And I appreciate you guys. You guys make my, you know, working by myself. If I didn't listen to anything, it'd be just me, myself, and my thoughts. So I appreciate everything you guys put out because it sure makes me laugh every time I, I hop on a machine or I'm doing something. It gives me some entertainment.

Let's go, dude. Hey, we are happy to be riding with you on your machine, man. Hell yeah. All right. Well, cheers, man. And congrats on getting married. Thank you. You guys have a good one.

You too. We'll see you soon. I totally can see how he gets roped into long conversations. Just a pleasant guy to talk to. I mean, he's like, you know, having him in my ear is like melting butter on the stove, Miles. Some comforting about that, you know. that's a comfort thing for you? You ever melt butter on the stove just to

watch it? No, I haven't. It's usually pretty utility wise. It's like I'm going to make some eggs so I melt some butter in a pan. Yeah, it's fun to watch it melt, though. Yeah, it is. Yeah. It's one of the oldest forms of entertainment.

Melton butter. Start off with fire and then. Then making butter and then melting butter. Yeah. Fire was the first Netflix. You know, well, stars were the first. Netflix and then fire entertainment just watching all right well so we do another car yeah let's do it miles you know miles i'll tell you this much nothing reveals a person's true character faster than a

crowded boat launch on a summer weekend everyone's waiting everyone thinks they're an expert somebody forgot the plug somebody else is backing up a 90 degree angle they're about to they're about to Screw the pooch. And when you got trucks and trailers and boats and people all moving around in tight space, accidents can happen quickly. Especially if you got to use the potty. What should be the start? It's another accident. I know.

That's two accidents waiting to happen. Two accidents, one boat. Two. And what should be the start of a great lake day can turn into something a lot, excuse me, can turn to some a lot more serious. If it does, you know who you call? Miles. Nicolay Law. Nicolay Law. 1-855.

Nicolay-Law. Miles, I'll tell you what I love. What do you love? I love these shady rays. Well, we were just arguing over who gets to wear those. These are cool. We found out those are Jared's personal shady rays. They're nice, man.

I like the wood paneling. I know. And they kind of has an amber tint to it. Is it what it is? Sure. Yeah. Good in those. Yeah.

Like if I just thought that those. those be yours, but they're Jared's glasses, and now I want to offer them some money so I can get it off of them. Well, you know, I still like your shady rays, too. I do, too. You know what's actually cool about those shady rays? Huh. I don't know. They just really bring your face together, but you know what's cool.

They're like a good rug. They really tie the whole face together, Mao. That's what you were going to say. It's almost like now looking at them. I can't decide which ones I like more. Me either. But that's okay because right now you can get two or more pairs of Shady Ray's. Polarized?

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It's like they're giving them away. It's like they're giving them away. So, guys, if you need some shady rays for your summer, you got to go to shady raise.com. Use code bellied up. Hello, Megan. You have Miles and Charlie from the Bellied Up podcast. How are you today?

I'm wonderful. How are you guys? Where are you drinking today? We are at the zoo on 22 here in Detroit Lakes, Minnesota. Oh, very nice in the lakes. Yeah, we're at the zoo today. Wow. Any fun animals?

Anything in the wild happening? There's a bison on the wall. There's a bear on the wall. There's a longhorn. There's a deer. There's a, I can't. Is that a mallard down on my glasses? It's a mallard.

Let me just see that real quick. There's a fish on the wall over there. I can't see. which one it is. If I look outside, I see the pink flamingo over there, Chuck. Are those trout? I don't know. Yeah, those are trout. Wow, they got trout. Where's the pink flamingo? On the tree over there. Oh, swingers here, baby. Okay. That's it. Quite the variety. Yeah, it's a zoo. So I, I suppose. Yeah, I suppose. Well, what are you doing today? You know, I'm just on a lunch break from work. So,

figured I'd use, use that to, to take your call. Where you were? Thanks for having me. Well, I work from home. Okay. So,

but the company, the company I work for is based out of Fargo, actually. Oh, wow. So you ever been to the zoo? I mean,

are we talking the Red River? Are we talking Chinkpa? We're talking the zoo on 22 here in Detroit Lakes. No. I actually haven't. I'll have to. I'm only, I'm not too far from D.L.

So. No. no excuse now we came from fargo today wow very nice but yeah i i frequent fargo a lot i'll be there at the end of the week oh cool are you excited yeah i mean i'm going to Costco so why wouldn't i be excited oh be careful now i know what's your go-to at Costco i mean what it's just like target whatever Costco tells me that I need. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. No, it's a dangerous game to play.

It really is. That's why we fold the second row down in my car and if we fill her up, that's mission accomplished. Okay. I like that. Well, what do you want to talk today? What do you want to talk about today, Megan? Well, the voicemail that I left for you guys, my predicament that I am in has been going on, you know, since I got married

to my wonderful husband. You know, he's your typical blue collar guy. He likes his projects, but, you know, his projects tend to supersede any projects that I have. So, you know, coming from, I mean, we'll, we'll agree to disagree. But, oh, I'm just joking your chain there, Megan. Come on now. You know, I know. Hang on a wall sconce in the living room is not as important as fixing the well.

Um, that was actually the one thing that we did hire out. Otherwise, my husband pretty much does any type of home project. The wall scons or the well. Well, we got, um, the, like the little lights pen, no, I don't even know what they're called. The little lights that you just pop into, you know, you drill a hole in the ceiling, you pop them in there, whatever those are called. Uh, the recess lighting. Those ones.

Yes. So that was probably the only project we did hire out. But, um, it sounds like, I am, that's why that was the, my husband has very, has a very extensive resume on things that he has figured out to do by himself. But electricity is not really. And, you know, electric, if you're not super, uh, that's not the one you want to roll the dice with, you know, if you're like a house that's not on fire. Or like to live. Yes.

Exactly. But I mean, I'm not even talking house projects for me. but like he is one where he likes motors and things so it's it's snowmobiles it's dirt bikes all those things that are his projects like last summer he took i think he frankenstein three different snowmobiles together to make one good one nice um that's charlie's wet dream i i know if you may be called into the wrong podcast I mean, I'm kind of, like, do you know what kind of, were they all Yamaha's? It's a late 80s enticer, which is at the enticer.

Okay. That's cool. So is, it's up and running, though. Oh, she's running. Nice. He built it for, for my kids to ride when they get a little bit bigger. Well, that's fun. That's cool.

An old lead sled. Mm-hmm. Yeah. And he will, the next project, you know, that one is like, oh, oh, this will be a project to do. And then it's like other things get away. And then he continuously reminds me, oh, yeah, I got to work on that phaser. I got to get that phaser going.

I'm like, okay. Oh, it's a phaser. That's the next one. I got a phaser. Do you? Yeah. Let's dial your husband in for a second. Yeah, well, I mean, that one works.

He's also working and he can't. He has loud machines that around him so he can't ever hear his phone. So sounds like something he'd say to you. It's a smart man. Yeah, exactly. No, we have, I can't even tell you how many snowmobiles and other motorized vehicles that we actually own, if I'm being honest. All right. Well, let's play a little game.

We'll go, we'll play a game where you list off projects that you want him to do. And Charlie and I will decide if a snowmobile is more important than that project. That's a good game. So we do that. So this, we could, but this game isn't going to last very long because there's really one like project that I would. like him to get done within the next like six to 12 months. Oh, okay. That's plenty of time. That's manageable. Yeah. What is it? Um, I want him to build me like a little farm stand because I bake sourdough on the side. So I want to have a little stand. I've, I heard your ears perk up

there. Yeah. With bread. Oh my God. I love sourdough bread. Yeah. You got a good starter going. I do. I do. I got it from. I got it from a friend. Nice. That she taught me how to, how to do, how to do, how make sourdough and now I made a little side biz out of it. So yeah. Wow. That's cool. What's the name of your sourdough biz? Can you bleep it out? Because I don't want people finding me. Yeah. Yeah. Why not advertise your business? But why would you want that? I don't know because I live in a very, very small town. So like if I say it, people are going to know who I am. I mean, they're like not to like sound super like I'm kind of a big deal, but like I do live in a very small town. What town? But But we're not talking about anything that's going to ruin your reputation.

We're trying to advertise your business. No, I know. It's called small town sourdough. Okay. That adds up. All right. Where do you live? Small town.

What do you make? Sourdough. Small town sourdough next. I know. Can I be in your next video for that? Sure. So do you want us to bleep it out or not? It really doesn't matter.

I don't care. It'll be fine. It'll just be if my husband hears this. he'll probably think that I'm shitting on him for wanting, saying that he does all these other projects. But you know what? This is maybe the reckoning that he needs. I mean,

maybe for a podcast that he probably won't ever listen to. Okay. No offense. Jesus. Hey, but I listen. I was about to help you. And now I think I have a different person to help.

We have a different project I want to work on. Okay. I'll give you a good. I'm starting to understand your husband more and more every minute of this well she listens to us just not her husband my no i'm just kidding i hey i am an o g bellied up and o g ybr list let's go that is that's rare to have a and and i'm a patron have a oh my gosh fecta and your female should we even go a little bit further yeah um miles i went to msum let's go and a fellow dragon uh and the same time we we were probably

and on campus at the same time. What was your major? I was a bio major because I was going into physical therapy. Did you have to take science of cooking? No. Oh, well, I did. It was fucking bullshit. That sounds like it.

I mean, I never actually graduated from there. I only went there for two years and then I switched my major about six other times. But I did go there. I lived in the beer can my freshman year. Let's go. Was that Nelson Hall? Yep. Yeah.

Sure was. I was on the 10th floor. Well, Jay, that's the top floor, isn't it? There's one floor above. I mean, pretty close. I was a doll hall guy. Can I see that from my hotel? The beer can?

Yeah. Maybe. Yeah, I think I was just looking at that. Yeah. That's fun. That's cool. So let me ask you this. Well, first of all, thanks for all the following.

Do you listen to Krepescast? I did. but you know it's not a thing anymore evidently on pause kind of a little lazy thank you though I appreciate that so what

what are she's part of the sisterhood of the travel comments probably not I actually don't comment very often but I've also I saw your show Charlie when you were in Bimiji a couple years ago as well oh did you did you like I brought my husband did he like it

he did he's not he's not one to be like Yeah. Yeah. We can say that. He didn't like it. He didn't like it. He did. That's just not always his thing. So I was trying to get him to branch out. Humor. Just I know, not humor. He's very sarcastic like I am. But he is just not one to like go to things like that. Her husband hates us. He's very much. No. She, he hates us so much that that she wanted to bleep out her small sourdough. there's no way he could find out. Her real name's not even Megan. No, probably not. But would I ever tell you? No, yeah, it's, I get it.

I get it. But no, he's just, he's very much a homebody. He just, he likes to be at home and he likes to work at his father-in-law shop and just work on motors and things. Oh, he's. Okay, so a couple of things. One, this is just for me.

Do you have a Patreon name? Um, probably not. It's probably just my name. Okay. Damn it. No. No. I'm not one of I don't come up with witty comments like everybody else are funny questions or a funny name like like many of the others. Like Rocky Bell Boner. No. Jimmy legs. No, none of those. I'm probably just Megan. Okay. All right. Um, secondly, all right. Let's get back to brass tacks here. Yeah. Down to brass. Is down or back? Back or down. Is it down? Is it down? What are this? Could be up. Can we get up to brass tax here? What are the spectacles on this, on this cart you want them to make? Well, so I haven't,

I've been, I've been trying to scour the internet to find, like, free plans because I didn't really want to pay for them, but that's not really an option. Screen shots. Because I, I want to make it as easy for him as possible so that he'll actually do it. Because,

so I found, like, plans on Etsy that you have to pay for. Oh, but it has. Fatsy. he doesn't really care where I get it from as long as because it has the materials list it has what tools you need it has pictures it has step-by-step instructions it's got the tools you need like what more could he need all of that if you go buy all of that three new tools because that's what every new project requires is new tools does he like woodworking or does he more prefer like machinery definitely machinery he is not a woodworking guy

Well, that's the issue. I know. Can I hire you to do it? Hire me? Did you see us build that bar? I did. Is it still standing at least? Yeah.

It's actually, yeah. We did a terrible job on that. I think that, I don't know. I mean, I have a great solution. So you have a father-in-law who also is handy, would you say? Her father. Yeah. No, in law.

His father. Oh, got it. My father in law. There's a couple routes you could take. One, you tell him, because this is how it works for me. Yeah. This is a very motivating thing for me is you just tell him that his father is going to come over and do it.

And that will not make him very happy. And then he'll just be like, don't, don't do that. I'll just do it. That's true. Because his dad's going to be like, oh, you couldn't do your wife's stand for he. So now I got to do it. Yep.

Get you with that dad guilt. Or what more likely would happen is they would do it together and then it would still take twice as long because they sit and be like, you know, they start working on it and then one person would say to the other, well, I wouldn't do it that way. And then they just kind of argue back and forth because they're both a very good quality,

but a very frustrating quality of both of them is that they're very, very meticulous and they're very much perfectionists, which again, in the end product, that's great, that you know what's going to get done right. but you know it's going to take two or three times as long as what you would expect. Okay. All right.

So I could be an option is what you're saying, but it might take just as long. What would happen if you said and you just started buying stuff and just said you were going to build it yourself? If I just took a trailer to Menards, my husband would probably think I went crazy. And then what would he do? He would probably say, no, no, no, no, no. I'll get it done. There. There we go.

Well, you got it. But then that's no timeline of when he's going to get it done. Well, then he, so he'll say he'll get it done. Then when he doesn't, you just do that. You keep taking the trailer of Menards until he finally does it. Oh, boy. I mean, I could do that and just see how far I get down the road before he says, all right, all right. That's enough.

Yeah. And if not, then you learn some new skills, new skills on how to put together the stand. It's got all the directions, you said. Yeah. it's like baking. Woodworking's a lot like baking. Because, you know, if there's something primal about men, is they want to feel like their wife needs them to do stuff.

And nothing is more threatening to his masculinity than you not needing them for this project. That's a very motivating thing for men. Especially in a small town, if word gets around that you built your own sourdough stand. Because he wouldn't do it. Or he couldn't. And that's what you. you start saying.

Maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's change the narrative a little, Charlie. Let's go, oh, well, my husband didn't know how to do it. So I had to build it. I had to do it. He'll start changing his tune real quick. Probably.

Yeah, because I'm going to my first farmer's market this week. So I'm currently prepping bread. And, you know, yeah, if I start talking about that to the locals, there's a lot of, a lot of ladies in town that like to sit and gossip, you know, at the cafe and putting with the coffee. You get the chit-chat at the farmer's market. How big of a stand are you looking to make? I mean, it's not large.

I think the dimensions were like three feet deep, maybe three or four feet wide and like six feet tall. I don't know. I could be very wrong. I know it's six feet tall. That's all I know. But it is on wheels. Castor wheels and what, four-by-fours?

I didn't. I told, I haven't bought the plans. yet. So I don't know. I just have the picture. They just told her so far and there's castor wheels. Yeah. She knows it sound wheels. Yeah. And how are you going to transport it with the trailer? You're going to have to take it

trailer it over there every week anyway, right? I mean, I'm not going to bring it to the farmer's market. I'm just going to wheel it like down the street from us because we live right off of a busy county road. So I'm just going to wheel it closer to the county road. So you're doing roadside bread sales. I'm hopefully by next. summer yes.

Okay. Oh, you're not even at the farmer's market proper. You're just on the way to the farmer's market. Yes. I mean, but I'm going to do this on like aside from the farmer's market. I'm going to do this like on the weekends because my, I have a full time job still. Like I do this on the side. I think you could get that thing done in a weekend.

I mean, if I really apply myself and actually like say, hey, honey, where are all of these tools that I know that we have, but I have no idea where you put them. No, you go start. Because that's always the problem too. Oh, yeah. We normally have tools at home and then I say, hey, where's the drill? Oh, I don't know. It's probably at my dad's shed because they were doing it.

Then just tell him you're going to go buy tools because he won't get them for you. I mean, you just got to start playing mental warfare with them. You know, you got to just start putting them down, you know, like you won't help me, so I'm going to do it, you know? And then even, you know, don't even do the murmurs to the to the ladies at the coffee shop about that he can't do it. Just tell him, it's like, it's okay if you don't know how to do this. The thing is, I do know because last, last year he built a big shelf in his, in his dad's

shed that they, they actually, so his, my father-in-law bought a shed a few years ago, and that was like a loading dock. So they actually took that, like broke it down off of the wall and then jacked it up like eight feet in the air. So now they have a little shelf to put all of their extra. parts and all the all the nice old snowmobiles and all of the things that we don't ride you know kind of in the off season and then we you know swipswop them around type of thing i mean that's cool that's yeah that's sweet you would have a heyday in there yeah we're a lot of things

where what town are you well can you bleep out the town because just don't say Jared then jerry are you in wisconsin okay i'll make less i'll make less work for jared i'm okay i'll just say i'm like a little over an hour east of Fargo. Oh, okay. So, but yeah. You're in Detroit Lakes? I am not in Detroit Lake south of there. Okay.

So you're in Fergus Falls. Uh, no, closer but not quite. Okay. I said small. Fergus Falls is like 13. That's closer to Fargo. Um,

frick. Pelican Rapids. You're, I said an hour away. You're getting closer to Fargo. That's about an hour from Fargo. No, but anyways. Is it Ashby?

You're very, very close. Okay. All right, we're circling. That's enough for us. Not too far from the Leaf Valley mercantile, actually. Oh, okay. Leaf Valley, population five. Yeah, it's, you know, it's probably been a few years since you've been,

there. They might be up to like seven or eight now. I haven't people having kids. That one family's having kids. Yeah, the one family that lives there, probably. All right. Well, you know, what option do you like the best here? I feel like we've thrown out quite a few. You have. You have given

quite some great options. I feel like bringing a trailer myself would probably not be the best option because my husband is very very particular about his truck so I don't know if he would let me

a try to hook up a trailer and then but I do have a vehicle that my car could tow it so I could just put the hitch on myself whoa whoa whoa whoa you don't have a hitch on your car yet well no because we have one hitch for for both of our vehicles oh but you have

you have the mound I yes I do yeah yeah get a hitch. You know what? No, just take the hitch off his car, put it on your car. The second you do that, you just got a, if he needs, he doesn't realize you did it. And then it's somewhere where he needs a hitch and he doesn't have it. He's on. Yeah. He needs to go fishing. Where's the hitch for the boat? You're like, oh, I'm, I'm making that thing I asked you to make. And just keep, just keep chipping away at it. And, uh, and eventually here's the biggest pain in the ass when you got a project to do is just not having all the stuff. So just slowly go get all the stuff.

You know you're going to have to buy it anyway. Well, yeah. I have an expedition. So I don't necessarily need to bring the trailer. I just get a few boards that'll fit in the car and just keep slowly bringing them all home. And then by the time I get everything and be like, okay, now I just need the tools. And then maybe he'll be like, whoa, whoa, whoa, you should probably not be doing using power tools. So there we go. You need a deadline. You need a deadline. You need a deadline. too. You just say like you say I need to get this done by next Saturday.

Oh, a deadline. Yeah. Oh, a deadline. Why were you pronouncing it like that? How did I say it? You said it like two words. You said deadline. Like a deadline. You need a deadline. Like, you know, you pick up the phone and there's no one, there's no connection. Like you were saying it like it was a deadline.

Was I? And not a deadline. I feel like we're mincing words over here. You did say a little weird. Did I say it weird? Just everyone here. went like this when you said that. Really?

Yeah. I'm special. So the thing is, give yourself a dead line. Give yourself a deadline. Make up a deadline like where I already paid. So pay for the placement at the farmer's market. Go big and just say we're losing money by not being there, you know?

And then you have to have it by this date. True. I mean, I did just do a cheap setup for the farmer's market, just one of those little outdoor. canopy things and a tent chair. Well, you screwed yourself on that one. I know I did. But I was under a time crunch.

I only have two more days. Did you make, oh, it's in two days? Yes, the farmer's market is in two days. Okay. Well, now, yeah, that's, see, you hit. So you haven't, you haven't been selling at the farmer's market yet? So I've only been taking like personal orders so far. Okay.

In the last two months. I'd be a little patient on this. You start slinging bread at the farmer's market. you start bringing in some real cash. His tune will change a little bit more. I mean, I've already sold like $1,200 worth of bread in the last two months. Really? That's a lot of bread.

You are. When I sell it at $8 a loaf, yeah. Holy smokes. Wow. Why didn't you want us to advertise it? It's clearly good bread. Can I have some? I mean, it's all right.

If you find your way over in my vicinity, I would absolutely bring you some bread. You won't even ship me any bread. I technically can't. Well, you know what she knows where we are. Why can't you ship it? It's a Minnesota thing. Oh, well,

you need like a commercial kitchen or something like that. Yeah. So I just have, it's called like a cottage food license that I had to get to be able to sell bread to people like personally. But yeah, that's against the rules to be able to ship it. But hey, I drive to Fargo.

So, well, if I don't, if I don't buy it, you could ship me bread. you want. Yeah, if I ship it under the table, I suppose I could do that. We'll do an unboxing of your bread on you bet your radio. How's that sound? If you sent it to me for free. And then you can write off those loaves on your taxes. Or I could just write off the miles and drive it because

it's probably cheaper to drive it to you than to ship it. Well, you're going to Fargo anyway, you said. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I can make a little sample box. I have four kinds of bread and three kinds of bagels. Do you make bagels? Do you make artisan butter as well? Because I'm a sucker for some butter. I don't because there's weird things about rules about dairy too. Yeah, that's

a completely different business, dude. No, I understand. You make him butter? Just saying if you had some exotic butter, I'd like to try them. Exotic butter. I don't. I don't, but I mean, if I'm going to toot my own, if I'm going to my own horn, the bread is so good, you don't really need butter. Oh, wow.

I'll be the judge of that. that I'm I'm I'm I've I've seriously considered starting like a bread channel for myself where you just try breads yes because I love it that much you're just a bread guy huh I've even in this could be this could be maybe a jumping off point I've even talked about starting my own bread company and now I can maybe just invest in her business and we can make small town it's already got the name huge sounds like a name you would give a bread company too yeah yeah I mean, honestly, just like in one of your videos. If you want to get a commercial, commercial kitchen license, let's blow this thing up.

Okay. Hey, it's, it's, uh, it's my one oven in my kitchen is not cutting it. Mm-hmm. Let's rise to the occasion. Let's rise to the occasion. There you go. Let's meet this out here. So musky tank.

What, pitch your, uh, I'm fully. Yeah. He's in. So what does he need to invest? Um, flower. That's my biggest. expense. Okay.

So you just need some capital to put into flour. I mean, that's what I buy the most of. I buy like 40 pounds of flour a week. Let's say Miles gets you a thousand pounds of flour this next year. What percentage of the company does he get? Are we on Shark Tank now? Musky tank. Oh, sorry.

I don't know. That's I could do is probably like 8%. Eight percent. I'm just, I'm just for a thousand pounds of flour. I am not a, I am not a barterer. I can't. You can give out any number and I would probably say, yeah.

I've, I. Let me give you one piece of business advice. 99%. No, I would fold like a cheap card table. Like, no, I'm not going to haggle like that. I'm not a good negotiator whatsoever. Well, here's the thing. Jared, have I not talked about maybe doing a bread company at some point?

Yeah. And what better way, Miles, you can, you can, you know. See you have your in. I would love to provide the bread for your first episode. Oh yeah. No, I mean, I'm talking. Let's let's partner on this thing and let's get in grocery stores and sell it online. See, I can't do that either. Why? Because that's part you can't sell it to other people. Like I can't sell it to restaurants to bakeries unless I get an actual commercial license. That's where Miles comes in. I pay for the commercial license and we'll partner on this thing. can you get me a kitchen too and more than one oven rent a kitchen we can rent a kitchen i'm not

going to buy here's our handshake over the phone well no no no no no no i'm just i'm painting a picture as a potential investor in this business i need to evaluate on my side if there's something i want to do or not real question i feel like you'd have to taste the bread to make sure yeah you can't just take a word for it's part of my due diligence although she sounds really trustworthy Dang. Someone just rolled up in an El Camino. That is sexy. Is that an El Camino or is that a that might be a Dodge Frampage? No, it's an El Camino. Wow. That's hot. Sorry about that, Megan. God, that's hot. You know, we turned off the chive TV in this bar beforehand and he just, I just, I couldn't plan. I guess we got to draw the shades. Couldn't plan for an Elkine. That's my dream car right there,

dude. But yeah, no, I mean, this is, I like this is, I like this is, I like this is, I like this is, I like this is, I like this is, a little uh, business cuck over here. I like seeing it happen, you know, I'm just in the bar chair in the corner watching you two make bread. And that's exciting for me. You know, I don't even need a percentage. I'm just here to watch. We can even do a video where I teach you guys how to make it too that would be fun oh yeah that would be very entertaining miles that's a great idea right there a video of you learning on to make bread for small town bread yeah so what is it small town bread company small town no small town sourdell sbSD we we should maybe go small town bread co but we'll talk about that later you know this is classic angel investor comes in and wants to

change everything yeah do you do you do you find miles is a control freak. I'll say that. I'll say that. I would say we're covering control freak. I know that and I'm trying to get better at it. Get ready to come to Miles with an idea and he'll go, okay. So what I'm thinking is we don't do that and we just do this instead.

But here's the thing. Unlike you, Megan might bring good ideas to the table that I don't have to go. Okay. Instead I go, oh yeah. Okay. All right. I wanted to refurbish one jet ski. fine I don't even remember that one you don't

remember when you had your your standing jet ski I still haven't do you yeah oh I know what we're going to do tomorrow does it does it run my father-in-law could fix it it does run I haven't ran it in a few years so I need some new gas have you ever tried water skiing behind that jet ski it wouldn't I wouldn't pull anyone it doesn't have enough juice for that but we'll we'll do it even trade

I'm going to offer up my father-in-law's labor and he'll get the jet ski. Make sure in tip-top shape, we'll trade off some bread. It'll be perfect. Okay. All right. Sounds like a pretty good deal. Yeah, it sounds like a great deal. Yeah, I'll just run that by him really quick as if he doesn't have a whole job.

Here's the question. Do you know how to make other types of bread other than just sourdough? Are you a one bread? I am a one trick pony. I only do the sourdough. That's your bread and butter. It is. It really is.

Or just the bread, actually. But yeah. Like I said, it is very good. I'm currently, I have 12 loaves that I'm making today. How does your husband feel about you? Send over some loaves if you can. We'd like to get a peep at your loaves. Yeah.

Miles eats with his eyes. I can when I bake them tomorrow. They're currently just having a little nap on the counter. Can we do a cool little design? Like, I've seen people like cut it with a razor. blade. Oh, like score it. Yeah. I could try to put the YB in there. There you go. I'm saying we should come up with a signature score and that could be our whole thing where

if you see this at the top of your loaf, you know you got it from small town bread company. Possibly. I mean, I go very simple. I just do the one line and that's it because I don't like to, I don't like all the frills. Can you brand it? Um, I have no idea. You definitely can. That can be Cool. You can brand anything. Yeah. You can brand humans. Sure can. Yeah. You can brand this wall. Can brand anything. Anything except water. You can't brand water. You can't brand water.

Nope. We've tried. Have you won any awards with your bread? Being that I've only been in business for two months, no. I like how I'm talking about investing in a business that's been around for two months. I mean, talk about boots in the ground, though, in terms of investor. But I mean, I have kind of perfected my craft. I think you're going to win an award soon here. And then the real question is, how's your husband going to feel about you being the bread winner?

Hey, you like that? Yeah. Mm-mm-mm. He gets to reap the benefits. He gets free bread all the time. That's true. He's a bread guy. He's a bread guy.

I just started making jalapeno cheddar too. Oh, that one is super good. It's just not every day that someone just drops a loaf of bread in your lap like this here. Now my head is spinning. Yeah, I can see it. He's getting a little antsy over here. I know. I know you're a garlic fan too.

I've wanted to make some garlic parmesan. You could be my tester. Oh, yes, I will. All right. Okay. All right. well, hey, I'm into this. Yeah.

And I think it is one of those things where all of a sudden, you know, you start making more money with this. Your husband needs to reevaluate his priorities. Exactly. He's going to have to add onto the house to make me a bigger kitchen. That's going to be the next project. You're going to put a commercial kitchen in the house. I'm going to have to at some point because, like I said,

one oven just takes forever. And baking in the summer is not for the week. No. It gets pretty Toasty It's a sauna It really is Do you have a

You can't you can't buy it online I was like you have a website But I don't have a website No it's just word of mouth Better let's build a demand Yeah Let's build a demand for the small town Sourdough

Sourdough That's I keep wanting to call it Small Town Breadco Just rolls off the tongue and then we can do any type of bread. But anyways, well,

it's only been around two months, Miles. We'll see where it goes. It's still young. Yeah. Yeah, we're in the ideas phase. Well, Megan,

thank you for calling in. We appreciate you. Thanks for taking the call, guys. Appreciate all the laughs that I get while I'm trying to work. Hey, we're here for it. Tell your husband,

we say hello, okay? Yes, you too. Tell your folks. I says hi. All right. We'll do. Bye. Bye now.

Well, you think you're going to do it? I'm very excited. Are you? I mean, just think about the journey we can talk about from not even having a roadside stand. I know. To a billion-dollar bread company.

I do like the idea of we got to start, you know, because here's the thing, as creators, there's a huge, like, push that everyone's got to have their own brand or whatever. You know what I mean? And there's all these fancy creators that they're like, oh, I need my own brandy. You know? Yeah. And I really like the idea of partnering with fans who have a good story, who would genuinely care about the product and just helping them get the word out.

Yeah. I like that as a business model for doing these types of things. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Me too. I also like a brandy. Barron's old-fashioned brandy can be found at any liquor store in Wisconsin, ladies.

Wouldn't that be fun if I could then go and it pairs nicely with a good sourdough loaf, which can be found at any grocery store across Midwest. That would be seen. Yeah, but, you know, then you get small town to big city, small town bread and a big city bread shop. Yeah, I mean, we'll have to, we'll navigate that. Yeah, you'll cross that bridge when you get to it. We could also do like a pop-up instead, you know? Yeah.

You get some vendors across the Midwest and we just pop them up on roadside. It's kind of like the 20 stakes for 40 bucks people. Oh, yeah. Just get a truck that travels around and slings small town sourdough. I mean, 20 stakes for 40 bucks. Is that really a thing? Chuck, don't. I'm going to do a video on it later this year, but it's not.

Didn't you already do a video on that? I feel like I've seen that. We talked about it. yeah we on this podcast didn't we yeah yeah all right chuck all right mouse another episode of the bellied up podcast in the tank baby in the musky tank in the musky tank in the musky tank guys if you're in Detroit lake swing on through the zoo tip your bartender we'll see in the next one okay hope you guys have a good one goodbye now ootoooooooo