Bellied Up - The Most Disrespected Sport #158

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

In this episode, we're recording from CJ's Tavern in Fargo, ND the drinks.First, a caller makes a passionate case for why bowling should be an Olympic sport. Should bowling be in the Olympics? We break it down and weigh in on the debate.Next, we hear from a professional cornhole player who gives us an inside look into the competitive cornhole world. From how cornhole tournaments work to what life is like as a pro cornhole athlete, it's a behind-the-scenes glimpse into a corny sport.Leave us a voicemail: ‪[phone]‬

Welcome back everybody to another episode of the bellied up podcast. We are here at CJ's tavern here at Fargo, North Dakota We're living miles. We are living. It's a nice day. We are live We're here right now miles you and me. There's nothing between us Nothing, but there's this old beer and this old beer You know miles I've been thinking about satisfaction recently. Okay, you miss your girlfriend Little bit but it goes beyond the and get no Satisfaction Miles I've just been thinking about these oddly satisfying things. So I'll tell you this I was I was out with my buddy

We're fishing in river river, fly fishing, don't judge. And I was, the train came by, there was a, you know, a lot of railroad tracks, they put them by the rivers. The rivers were the first GPS for the railroad tracks. Yeah, there you go. And as his train went by, you know, it was one of them long, slow moving trains, one of those trains that would bother you if you were sitting in your car.

But because I was sitting in a river, I had not a bother in the world. So I looked at those train cars and I took a deep admiration at them. Admiration, as some might say. And I wasn't just admiring the freight in the cars or the train moving across the tracks, though both of those are a beautiful testament to the ingenuity of the Americans in the early eighteen hundreds. What I will say is that the art on these train cars was phenomenal. Throughout the United States, these train cars are sitting in these places where

people have paint and cans and they spray them and the art is beautiful and they create this traveling art show, if you will, this exhibit, this traveling exhibit. That is actually a very good point. Isn't it cool? It goes on tour throughout the country, you know? Artists need to start advertising that, tracking the trains, be like, I'm doing an art exhibit.

Put like one of those apple locators on it. Yeah. Yeah. So this is where you can see my exhibit. It's going to actually a pretty good idea. It is an air tag to it. So people know where to see your work that actually would go viral online. We should do it. We should do that. We should find an artist feet. No, we should graffiti a train. I got to practice my graffiti skills. That's all right. Yeah. And then we could tell people like we do a bellied up mural. Let's start practicing our graffiti and make this a reality. Yeah. Cause on that day, dude, I saw a Teletubby. I saw a lot of tags from various gangs, you know, around. Those were standard and some nice, those gangs, I mean, they really, there's some deep emotion there. It's also like funny, you know, you're part of a gang.

It's all rough and tough. But then they got one guy who's like, I'm the artist. Let me just throw our tag up there. Yeah, do it. That's sick. just throw our tag up there. Oh yeah, do it. That's sick. Oh my God. That tag looks fabulous, dude. Let's go. All right. Hop on the back of my bike. We're going

exactly. Okay. I did crush that. Didn't I? The guy's got to be protected in every gang war. Yeah, you can't kill a drummer boy in the whole in the civil war. They're like, you can kill any of us. Don't kill the artists. We need our tag to live on. OK. I'm glad that some that can't be mass produced yet, you know, tagging, you know, and snow, there's no big stencils out there really, but no, I saw a bunch of good ones, man. There was a ghost busters, you know, the little green guy and ghost

busters. He was on there. Um, on there. Yeah. Oh, and Ninja turtles main appearance. So anyways, that's some, I find out at least as I'm out with any, I only see tags around here. Yeah. Well, but what I'm saying miles is yes. On most cars, you just see tags, but when you have all day, all day to look at it, this train was going for 20 minutes past us. That's how long them big old trains are. A lot of these trains, even they circumvent them through the road. So even when you're stuck at a thing,

you don't often see it unless you're in Fond du Lac, Wisconsin, where it runs straight through the frigging city. Or Moorhead, Minnesota. Moorhead, Minnesota. You'll see them there. Yeah. Yeah. And these are not fast moving trains.

It's not your Amtrak. It's nice and slow and go I appreciate that Shout out to the artists to the artists out there. Cheers all you Created bastards keep doing your thing miles. What do you find out at least as fine? Um, the first thing it pops into my mind is You know when you're haunting in the field and you got do you have an over-under shotgun or no? You know, when you're hunting in the field and you got, do you have an over under shotgun or no? I wish I love it over under. Oh, my dad's got one. You don't let me do it. You're going to take a shell to the eye. I think it's the problem. I've used it before, but usually

he that's his gun for me. It's you crack it open and then when you get to that point and they pops the shotgun shells out. Oh yeah. And the barrel still smoking to me. That's just, I apologies to my wife, but it might be better than sex. Wow. Damn. Wonder what Anne asked to say about that. She's like, uh, yeah. Every time I crack open a Tupperware better than sex. I think part of it is, you know, you just get a semi sexist actually just a Tupperware for your wife. Wow. Sexism. And I'm sorry. This is good. This is good. This is good that you said it.

Not me. This is good. Good. Backtrack, backtrack, backtrack. I think what I like it so much is, you know, you guys, you know, semi-automatic shotgun, it's just doing the shells out for you. Right. It's just coming out of the gun. Yeah. Where something makes me feel more, something you can talk about. By the way, and since she's a great photographer, it's the, it's the cards, the SD cards going in the camera fixed it. What were you talking about? Oh, I like to think I'm a cowboy, you know, manually popping the shells out of your gun just makes you feel like the old guy takes you to a different time, different place. You know, that is pretty cool. I don't

know if they had that technology back then, but I got similar, similar vein. I got this old lever action, Henry 22 and a kind of, and then kicks it out, you know, not as, not as satisfying. I'll give you that. But anytime you're. You know, not as, not as satisfying. I'll give you that. But anytime you're, you know, even a pump shotgun's fun. Pump, that's, that's the way I go. I got a pump action Mossberg, you know? And it's, you know, people will, people like to say,

oh, you know, and I'm like, what do you mean, oh, it's a nice gun. Yeah. You know, doesn't shoot straight. Does it have a full Oh, it's a nice gun. Yeah. You know, don't shoot straight. Does it have a full barrel on it or did you saw it? No, no. Look like Dominic Toretto rolling up to the to the pheasant patch. No, it's it's it's camoed up. It's got the camo wrap. It's nice.

I love it. Paint it yourself. But you know, I did my car. I did. I can tell. That's also says fun. You take a tan car and you told us the story on here before that satisfying. That's your way of saying, don't retell this story. That's another form of art, just like the trains to go full circle. You were already doing it. I get a nice camel pattern on there. You know, I was, I should have dropped an air tag in your car. I should have. And

not only then people can witness your beautiful arts, they can steal the stereo out of it. Or you lose a lot of shit. You'll always be able to find your car. That's true. Triple edge sword that comes in handy. Triple ed sword before. Um, no, I like that. Yeah. I don't even know. I just invent. I think you just invented. It's the propeller of sorts. You know, when you think about it like that. Um, but I liked that miles. I liked that. What else? Those are two pretty satisfying things right there. I would say. Yeah. Yeah. Do you ever wish you weren't cowboy? Uh, I mean in the romantic sense, I think everyone's been like, it'd be cool to be a cowboy until you realize either one, if you're going to outlaw cowboy vibe, that's the only

way you're literally people are trying to murder you every day of your life. It's kind of kind of, so once you, once you realize that that sucks. And if you talk about being an actual cowboy in modern day or even, you know, not too long, it's hard work. It's not this, it's not this glamorized the, I mean, you're, you're working all day long. Well, we're working all day long miles. Yeah. But I don't got my hands up a cow's ass. I don't know if you know this miles doesn't come out of the vagina. How do you think I was just trying to create? I was just trying to avoid. There are some vagina on the podcast. There are situations where you got to put your hand up a cow's ass. Of course, there we go. We're talking about stool blockage or, you know, prostate

exam anyways, um, miles, should we take some callers? I think we should. Curtis, you got miles and Charlie from the bellied up podcasts. I hear that you think that bowling should have some more respect on its name. Absolutely. I think bowling is the most disrespected Sport I would like to specify sport because people refer to it as a game or a hobby No, it is a sport and it's not in the Olympics, which is another thing I'm very upset about when that breakdancing lady goes all popular when bowling is much more competitive and tricky than just flopping on the floor. Yup, Curtis, I'm with you, man.

I'm with you as a big bowler myself, a guy who's rolled several 300s. No, you haven't. Yeah, I have. No, you haven't. In we bowling? No, in real bowling, Miles. And we would know if we ever bowled together

But you never wanted to bowl with me. So Curtis I 100% agree with you I mean talk about the athleticism that it takes to pick up a 12-pound bowling ball put the right amount of spin and just Split that 9 and 11 right there and just split that nine and eleven right there. Seven and eleven. You only throw twelve pounds? I knew that that was gonna be the next thing. Curtis, you shut your dirty mouth, man.

I'm not out here trying to flex. I know what I got, alright? So if I throw a twelve pound ball, that's on me, okay? Alright. What do you throw, Curtis? I throw fifteen and I throw the crap out of it. Alright, well listen, Curtis, we're on the same team here, okay?

So let's fucks nuts at a different time. But I agree with you, I mean, if the Olympics can have rowing as a sport, then they can have bowling as a sport. If they can have judo as a sport, taekwondo, soccer, are you kidding me? And bowling's not included? Give me a freaking break.

They have artistic swimming and no bowling, weightlifting, triathlon, bad mitten miles. You know, what's a good mitten bowling? That's what I'm talking about. Bowling should be an Olympic sport. Um, yeah, I think the problem is, is right now there's no, uh, in the age of social media and the age of big stars, I think bowling just needs one guy to be a loud mouth in your face. Cocky S O B to get people to pay attention. You know, it's like name one professional bowler right now. Yeah, that's the problem. Where is the Dennis Rodman of bowling? Yes. That's what we're looking for. Tats and everything.

I mean, they had P Weber forever though. Do you guys know who I know? And the keyword is they had him. Yeah. You know, who do they have? That's the question. Who have they had recently because Pete Weber, is he the guy? It's like, uh, who, who do you think you are? I am. Who do you think you are? We need more of that. More Pete Webbers. Um, what do you think you are? I am. Who do you think you are? I am! We need more of that. More Pete Webbers. What do you roll, Curtis? Well, I... It's funny you talk... Wait, we said no flexing.

I do have a few perfect games, but... I've... Sorry, Charlie. I throw, you know, a lot of different brands, and you know, I may go pro one day. I don't know. I'm almost there. Maybe I think about it. I need a little more. He could go pro. He just doesn't have time. I'm a college student, so it's hard. Well, are you on the college bowling team? We don't have one. Start it.

Start it. What school are you at, Curtis? I'm in a school not too far from Scranton. It's called Misericordia. That's the name of the school. Misericordia? Yeah. What are you guys known for and why isn't it bowling? What year are you? I'm going, well, I just wrapped up my junior year. So I'm going into my senior year. What are we known for? I mean, our team just won last year, the 2024 season, our baseball team won the division three national championship. So I mean that we actually see the it from Wisconsin. Did you? Yeah. You guys won a glorified high school championship. I believe it was, um, Wisconsin whitewater, maybe. Okay. They're always poking their head around championships and all that about them. Whitewater's got a good team.

I'll say that much, but look, Curtis, those boys, you know, are looking good this year. Curtis, there's two types of people in this world. There's the people that say, why is bowling not an Olympic sport? And there's those who say, I'm going to make bowling an Olympic sport. So my question for you, Curtis, is what kind of a man are you? Oh, I'm going to make it an Olympic. That's what I'm talking about here right now Oh, I'm going to make it in Olympics. Here right now. Let's hear the pitch. Oh, I'm going to just go to him and be like, listen, you guys made a lot of money from that dance lady and that's not even a real thing. Right. But you want something that's loud, that brash,

and you want someone like myself representing the United States of America and maybe given a couple, who do you think you are? I am a couple other, you know, gestures, maybe that I won't say, but you want me to, you know, make it great. And we're going to make it the one of the biggest sports in the Olympics. People will be talking about it. They'll be like, why hasn't it been here for the last forever? I like the passion. I like the passion. You started picking it up at the end, which I like, but we're going to need, you can't be stealing his tagline. You can't be throwing his tagline around. You got to come up with your own. What is your tagline? You just smoke your, your eighth strike in a row What do you turn around to the crowd and what do you give on them? Oh?

I always say that I'm the man. I'm him. Those are my two More creative guy anymore. This has to be original. How about know your role and shut your mouth Well, that's the rocks though. I can't say that that's not the rocks Yeah, there you go. Well, that's the rocks though. I can't say that. That's not the rocks Yeah, it is. Well, he hasn't been around wrestling in a minute. So steal it. Okay, be like China If you can't do it, steal it There you go. Yeah, I like it. I like it Charlie. What would be your catchphrase? My catchphrase would be I Got a good one Two balls and no pin. That was, that was tough. Got, you gotta do something like put that in your pin

and smoke it. So you just screamed that in this bar miles. Sorry. We're talking about bowling. Sorry. Well, miles, I'll buy you a beer. I liked the headphones on. I know it was pretty loud. Yeah. You really screamed it in here. I yelled. Yeah. Can we turn his headphones up so he doesn't do that again? Charlie, what did you think of that? I thought that was pretty good. Put that in your pins and smoke it. That's good. Yeah. And then you could steal that one if you want, by the way. Oh, I might feel it. I'm not going bowling anytime soon. So yeah, sure. So why, why aren't you going for the problem? Go for if I get, obviously he's not a golfer Little big Lebowski quote for you. Oh Obviously, you're not a golfer. Yeah, what is this? Obviously you're not a golfer man

Anyways Yeah, I just I'm a golfer. That's why I'm not out there hitting pins pin down Smoking pins pin dead pins smoking pins and taking names dead pins Horizontal pins We're pretty bad at this all the way What did you say I thought your show, your show was better. Thanks, Curtis. Um, you know, even like frulhing or disc golf has a cooler, like slang around it. Bangin

chains. I mean, that is pretty cool. Yeah. What is bowling? What's bowling's equivalent to banging chains? Oh, have you ever slinged the messenger? Slinged the messenger? Yeah. So, um, like it's when a pin comes across the lane, if you got maybe like the 10 pin that's up or whatever, that's my arch nemesis. And you just throw the ball so hard. A pin comes off the sidewall shoots across the lane and knocks that pesky 10 pin down. You call that pulling in a messenger. Oh, look at this He's way into it. I was thinking maybe something a little more productive

Provocative, you know like clanging and banging or some clanging and banging What I think is really missing though is the bowling influencers. That's what I'm saying Yeah, like Bryson DeChambeau. Do you know who that is? No, he's a golfer saying. Yeah. Like Bryson to Shambo. Do you know who that is? No, he's a golfer. He, uh, he's basically like become a YouTuber and he's a professional golfer and he's, he's, he's helped golf kind of explode in the younger generations and stuff. We need a, we need a bowling YouTuber to really take off. Also, I think we got to work on the shoes. You know, you need a Nike dealer. Yeah. New Balance deal with the shoes. Right. Like, like basically like the bowling shoes as it stands are very

influenced by clowns. And I think we really got a second. Charlie, wait a minute. That's only house shoes if you don't have your own shoes. God, it's yeah, that makes sense. They getting cool. You have your own shoes. Got it. Yeah. That makes sense. They getting cool. You have your own shoes. They're pretty cool. Are they pull up? Yeah. Pull up a what brand? What brand would a bowling shoe be? I look up like Dexter SS eight. Those are

really cool. Dexter D X T E R. Yep. Yeah. I mean, that's also the problem. You need to be getting more popular brands to make shoes. Those look like biking shoes. Like those look like a cross between CrossFit shoes and Healy's. I don't know about those. I made my style a little different than you have bowling style. That's a problem. You know, you got one style shirt in your closet and it's all looks like Charlie Sheen on two and a half men. It's not adding some athleisure to the, to the bowling leagues, you know? Yeah. They could really, I mean, some of these are cool. Some of these are cool. You need to get air Jordan to come out with a bowling shoe and kids will flock to it. Oh, that'd be sick. I love Jordan. That'd be pretty cool. Yeah. It was really the, you're, you're kind of, or, or you could

go a different route and kind of, cause essentially bowling shoes are have leather bottoms, correct? Well, yeah, on the right shoe. Yeah. Or wherever your sliding foot is, it's like made. You need a character in the bowling world that's a cowboy. And he he just wears his cowboy boot leather bottoms. And he just is slipping and sliding like it's a dance floor doing a two step. I like it. The two step slides or the Jordan slides like air Jordan slide Jordan flip flops basically. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I cook

in here. Yup. And I think we are you always wearing pants when you bowl? Uh, only when I'm doing like big tournaments. Normally if I'm bowling league, I just wear shorts. Yeah. Maybe, uh, maybe try like what basketball used to do back in the day. Like get some snap pants involved. So then you come out there, you throw your few warmup bowls, your warmup balls, and then you come to the side, you throw some chalk in the air to get your hands chalked up like LeBron James does. There you go. And then rip your pants off just to reveal a nice pair of slacks underneath.

Yeah, or you go like the full on janitor suit, you know, like a whole, like a onesie, you know, for your bowling uniform. Yeah, like kind of like a prison jumps, you know, for your bowling uniform. Yeah, like a kind of like a like a prison jumpsuit. Yeah, exactly. You know, that's got some flair to it, you know, and maybe I like that. Yeah. OK, we're cooking here. You know, it took us a little get the brainwaves around it, but just the excitement.

And then and then also we like for the for the influencers out there, we got to give them, uh, what, what do you call it? It's a, uh, you know, like way it's an experience. No, it's like a, an opportunity to take a photo. Like how are we going to get the bowling content out there? We need, yeah, go ahead. Well, we need, we need like a GoPro right by the pins and we need like, yeah, we need to, yeah, just like modern sports. Yeah. They've put a camera everywhere in the pylon cam. The ref even has a cam on his, on his hat bill. Yes. We need to put a camera on every pin. We need a camera on the hole. We need a camera in the gutter. We need cameras everywhere. We need

cameras in every hole of the bowling ball at the end. Like that big Olbowski shot, you know, they put a camera in the hole, have it roll down. That's what we need. We just got to, we got to really have people see it. Seeing is believing. And secondly, another way we can fix bowling is I don't want to see a bowling alley with lane, lane, lane, lane, lane, lane, lane, lane lane and everyone else is standing behind Crowds I want crowds lined up along the whole lane. Yeah They do that in the professionally they are lined up down the lane. I Never seen a car. I've never seen that either. Maybe we're just not watching enough bowling videos I'm both sides, you know

have you ever seen basketball players shooting a free throw and the, all the fans behind the basket are waving their arms. There's one fat guy with his shirt off jiggling his belly. That's what I want. I want to see that at a bowling alley. I want to see that the crowd gets involved and start affecting those games. I figured it out. Miles figured out the catchphrase. You bowl, you hit a strike. You're like Bullshit You know, no, okay. Anyway, what a bunch of bulls shit. Yeah kinda kinda we're getting there You're getting there Charlie, what do you think of the fan interacting trying to distract the bowler I

Like it cuz during like when I bowl league I I bowl with, you know, I bowl with my dad the last few years and he will do or say things in my backswing that will either cause me to laugh or have great concern as I am releasing the ball. So I think that's the chat. Yeah, Charlie, do your backs like you're going to bore. I'll be his dad. Your girlfriend's cheating on you. That's that's you get. We've seen those golf videos, right? Where the guys are roasting the dude at in his backswing. We need that with bowling. Correct. We should go do that. Yeah. Yeah. we'll just go to bowling alleys. Just start roasting people. See if we can get a gun pulled on us

That'd be great Um, that's that's a really good. I I like that, you know charlie before we got that not to steer off the bowling thing Real quick roll off but go in the gutter Go in the gutter. Uh, I actually just saw you fairly recently if I didn't bring it up. I'd be mad at myself I actually just saw you fairly recently. If I didn't bring it up, I'd be mad at myself. Okay. You were up not far from the old screen and the electric city. Yeah. You were in a the electric city. You were in looks Barry. I don't remember when that was. Yeah. I think it was in October. Maybe. Yeah. Good memory. Yeah. It was really good. I went with my friend, Dave, it was actually my birthday weekend, and I kind of felt bad because that crowd, they did not want to laugh.

But we were dying up in the balcony. Well, I'm glad to hear it in Wilkes-Barre. I would from what I remember from that show is it was a lighter. I didn't sell a ton of tickets in Wilkes-Barre, maybe like two, three hundred, I forget. But it was a bigger room. And you know, it felt better down there. They were laughing.

See, Miles, this is me backpedaling on it. It was a fine show. But you were laughing even though no one else was, is what you were saying. Curtis, you gotta remember that if you wanna be a comedian like Charlie, you just black out the memories of those shows. Curtis, you gotta remember that if you want to be a comedian like Charlie, you just black out the memories of those shows. Yeah.

So he doesn't remember. I completely forgot that that wasn't a great show. Because if comedians had memories, they wouldn't get on stage again. That's 100% accurate. But you had a good time. Let's focus on the good, huh? You had a good time there? Yeah.

Me and my buddy, it was my birthday weekend, so we had a real good time. What he was saying is, I was hammered at your show. You could have been doing anything on stage. I would have been laughing. No, I'm not, I'm not a big drinker, but I had a good time. Good. I'm glad to hear that. And you know, had I known you were a bowler, I would have brought you backstage. Oh, that's an opportunity. That's just Charlie's type. You know, he loves a guy with some greasy hands. Talk about pins, you know, talk about pins and things right by there, man. We could have went, we should have gone. Next time I'm in Wilkes-Barre we'll make it happen. All right. I'll make sure I work

at that bowling alley so well I'll make sure we'll get the good. You work there too? Yeah. Damn dude I gotta start asking the crowd if there are any bowlers in the audience next time. You might be surprised. Especially in the Midwest there are a lot of big-time pros in the Midwest. Sure is. My it's basically in the Midwest. There are a lot of big time pros in the Midwest. Sure is. Make it some waves. Sure is. Well, I like where we're going with this. I think I think we need a guy like you to be pushing with the passion and the charisma to push bowling to the next level. And I think after this little brainstorming session, we're in a good way. Yeah. So you got to get on YouTube and you need to develop a catchphrase.

Yeah, there we go. I do have a TikTok page going, but I'm still, yeah, I got to figure out the catchphrase. Well, shout it out. What's your TikTok? My TikTok page is just Kurt Bowles and I post, you know, I go to tournaments or stuff like that. It's not very original. I stole it from a, another tech talker that bowls in the Midwest. So it's not John bowls. No, no. Her name is Sarah bowls. I stole it from a girl. Okay. Well that's cool. You know, you need to start doing some trick shots. That's what draws people in. Look at do perfect.

I mean, those guys are billionaires and I worked there so I could do it. Yeah, I know. After hours, do some trick shots. I guarantee you'll gain an audience. Just a lot of bowling alleys, you know, throw two balls at once. So I'll be fine. I don't have togin cool. How tall are you? How tall am I? Yeah, I'm six two Good for you. Talk to all sorts of mechanics on this cast Are you um, are you you got to be like the John Daly I think of The drink very much. Oh, that's true. Yeah Start I could start no no no

Golfing I drink Arnold Palmer iced tea all the time. Maybe I could just make that my drink. Well, yeah start drinking John Daly's. Yeah Didn't say the Arnold Palmer where you want to start a charity or something? We're trying to get the game of bowling off the map. OK, so start developing some drinking problems and that's a good start. Just kidding. We had Tippie Cow up here. I could try it, but we don't have it here in the day. So no, you don't need to drink to make bowling cool. It's cool as it is already. All right. And then once it gets a few brand deals, he can set the product up like pins

and then bold the product. Yeah. That's not, Oh yeah. Can I 10 pins of tippy cow and he just bowls them through. Yeah. Make them empty bottles. So I want to waste that's alcohol abuse. Yeah. Yeah. Bull with other things, though. Bull Bull. Kenneth Bull. That's your new ball. And then you just take, you know, everyday items and try and get a strike with them. Yes. See what you can do with the marble. You know, like a kitchen aid mixer down the lane.

Yeah. Well, that might not call. Find some circular. Hey, maybe like a watermelon. There you go. That's a great start. It's a great Kennet bowl. Then you just drill the holes in there. You know, that'd be great.

I go to the pro shop guy, we're close. I'll be like, hey, I need you to put some holes in this watermelon for me. And I'll be set to go. Every ball that goes there from now on just sticks to the deal. Well, no. All right, man. Well, we'll be looking for you online. I think this is a good start to getting bowling at the Olympics and put them on the map. I love it. Thank you guys

so much. It was great chatting with you and yeah, maybe, you know, maybe I could be that pizzazz guy, you know, I just kind of come up with a catch for you. So you'll find it. You'll find it. Don't force it. I'll find it. Right. Right. All right, man. Well, good talking to you. Have a good one. Hey, thanks. Watch out for deer and tell your folks. I says, all right, we'll see you soon keep her moving now wow he's fighting an uphill battle yes we didn't have much to offer him either we try you know it's kind of one of those things that if a sport has a you know a peak it's tough to pull it back out of the valley because I feel like a peaked when my dad was you know in high school high school. Yeah. He used to work at the bowling alley. He had his own ball and all that stuff.

Bowling alleys were everywhere. You know, they were put them in basements of bars like the Howler House. Like we said, you know, and, you know, clubs had them. They had swimming pools, bowling alleys, you know, billiards, too. But billiards is making a comeback. The pool. That's cause the trick shots online. Trick shots. Yeah.

Yeah. You gotta, yeah, you really, but it's, it's such a long distance. It's tough to get those camera views. So we gotta get that figured out. Oh, you know what we really need them bowling is like the NFL, how they have the camera on the wire that goes over the, we need a wild cat camera. Yeah. Get one of them. Or like if you watch Luge goes over the. Yeah, we need a wildcat camera. Yeah, get one of them.

Or like if you watch Luge in the Olympics, they just like cut to different camera angles as they zoom past it. They need cameras in the gutters all the way down and go past each one. Smart, smart. And also let's reimagine the bowling alley. Could we have like- Outdoor.

Outdoors is great, Yes. Or could it, instead of being a straight line, could we have the mini golf version of like, yeah, like a little berm that it basically like that's curved around. So a curved bowling out curved lane that you got to use, you know, the bank extreme bowling. I'm bored with that. Ex-bowling bowl X, the X games, XBL, the X role, the X XBL, X, XBL. Exactly. And like you, uh, in order to determine, you got to win an arm wrestle to determine when you go, you know?

I mean, I'd start off pretty good against you. You wouldn't even go one second. No, I've been working out. You haven't lifted weights in a month, you said. I'm getting back. All right. Well, should we do another caller? Hey Russell, how's it going, man?

Not too bad, how about you? How are you guys, how are you doing? We're doing great, we got a burning question to ask you. Burning, who would make a better paralegal? Miles, the you betcha guy, or Charlie, not the you betcha guy? Is that just? What is a paralegal?

It's two legals. Okay. Basically a paralegal does many of the things a lawyer does, They just can't practice law or go to court or give legal advice, but they can do almost all this stuff before that or with the help of an attorney. But my question would be for you two guys is, you know, what attributes do you each have that you think would make you the best paralegal? We write jokes.

I I'm really good at moving goal posts so I can always shift them something in my favor just by some mental gymnastics. I can roll a pretzel. Um, he didn't love that one. No, he didn't love anything. He's silent over there. Not saying anything, just letting us talk. This is why he's so good at his job miles. Yeah. We're nervous talking.

You didn't give us a response. Yeah. All right. I'll get it. Okay. I'll see how we're being tested. Sure. I know. I know. Yeah. How is your reset research and writing skills? How about that? Well, I have a chat, GBT accounts. So pretty good. I have the deep research feature on it. You pay for that. Huh? Oh yeah. Wow. How do you think I know so much about you? No, it's how to use chat. GPT check. All right. I got one for miles. I mean, that's kind of a big deal these days. I feel like for a paralegal, I don't know. Charlie, I will have to say, for a paralegal. I don't know. Charlie, I will have to say, and I'm going to say this mostly because when he said he

asked about research skills, it really sounds like a job that I don't want to do. And so I may concede because you got the journalism back. That's true. I do have a journalism background. Yeah, that's, that's, that's a pretty good background. I do think though it sounds kind of like miles would be quick to at least make it look like he's working because he'd be having the chat GPT do all kinds of things for him. And so at least initially it would look like he's getting a lot done and he knew a lot. So, you know, you can go out, you can fake it till you make it. Sometimes it's a little tortoise in the hair situation. Yeah. I'm just going to be chugging along

until miles is getting drunk. Eventually when we find out, yeah, well eventually we find out all miles work is hallucinated and wrong. Then we'll have to fire them. But then you're also going to find that Charlie was on some Delta eight and just made up a conspiracy and you're going to find out that's a hallucination as well. I don't do the Delta eight anymore. No, no, no. I read too many articles on Delta eight through my research. So I no longer do that. So give Nicolay law call one eight five five Nicolay or go to Nicolay law.com. All right. Thank

you guys. Hello Cameron. How are you? It's me and Charlie here on the earth. It's me and miles. That's weird. My brain just got all messed up there. Cameron. Sorry. Had a glitch. Hang on. Let me restart it. Done. What's up there? What My brain just got all messed up there, Cameron. Sorry. Had a glitch. Hang on. Let me restart it. Done. What's up, dude? What's going on? Not a whole lot. We're just chilling here at the bar. Hey, but we hear that you are a professional cornhole man. I am.

Wow. Congratulations. Yeah. Thank you. I, uh, I play for the ACL, the American Cornell league. You've been on ESPN. I have three times. Okay. We want to have to pull your highlights up. Yeah. What are your stats? Uh, my PPR, which is points per round, it's like a high 10. So that basically means I'm throwing a 10, which is three in and one on for four in. Wow, dude, you're like, you're a prodigy. Yeah. Cause you're 17. You said, or Jake was telling me. Yeah. Okay. So how did you become so good at corn? All just you and the old, old man in the backyard or what? Yeah, basically he got me into it. And then from there we would go to these bars and he would basically get me in and we'd play together

and we were like beating everybody and they were getting so mad. And then from there, we started playing bigger events that were like more money and more people, and then we just started traveling more and more and now we travel or I travel the world and play a circuit. So yeah, it's, it's pretty crazy. Is your old man in the circuit too? No, he, he No, he he was good But then he stopped playing and wanted me to play with more people that were like were him Because he he just wanted to like take a step back. So which is cool with me because I hated playing with him

What's the worst part about playing cornhole with your dad? Oh just like the dirty looks because it's like playing cornhole with your dad? Uh, just like the dirty looks because it's like, like if I, if I throw bad, then like I'm mad and then he's mad that I'm mad. And then we're both mad. And yeah. Like every great athlete, like every great artist, you got a problem with your dad. Your dad pushed you too hard in the game of cornhole. See the, is it fair to say he's the Joe Jackson of cornhole dads? I'm free. Yeah. I would would I would say that's pretty comparable.

Tiger Woods is dead. Yeah. Yeah. Too many expectations. Not enough delivery from you. All right. So are you and your dad in a good way now that you're not playing on the same team? Oh, I'm I'm I'm loving it. I don't know about him, but I'm loving it. Nice. So like you said, you travel the world like do you still go to high school or no?

I do. Yeah, I actually had to make sure that this call was pushed back because I just got out at two. I live in New York, so I just got out at two over here. So now in the high school, are you like pretty cool given the fact that you're a world renowned cornhole? I would say I'm pretty cool. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not, I'm not going to, it's a lot different than back in my day. You know, you wanted to be the, uh, guy who's good at football so that you can be in it with the ladies. And now it's if you're a

cornhole or, you know, that's, that's the way to their heart. Yeah. Yeah. Times have changed. Do you, do you like go to school with your, all the sponsors on your cornhole Jersey? I know I don't go to school with my sponsors on my cornhole Jersey. Never have just to kind of subtle flex. Oh, sorry, it just came off the road. This is all I had. No. I got a question for you about cornhole jerseys.

Why do cornhole jerseys, why are they so gaudy? Like, why do they have so much going on them, right? Like you can do the sponsors everywhere. But like you look at a professional sports team, any other team, they have sponsors all over their Jersey, but the Jersey isn't too busy where I feel like every single one has like a cornhole bag exploding out of the front of it of an American flag and the shards of the flag are flying and like why do they all look like that?

Well my pro jersey like with the bush beans on it and the Mike's heart and all that when I put my sponsors on it it's definitely not like a generic Jersey so I don't know why they do that design like that scheme. Yeah. It's like the kid, they just do a solid color, like just a black shirt with, with sponsors all over. Why does it always gotta be like a bald Eagle driving a monster truck holding an American flag? Yeah, it's, it's, it's the dumbest designs ever. And that's why I'll never wear them to school. It's also back up what you said. It's like the t-shirts that you get at the fair where they airbrush them, you know, right?

That's what it feels like. Why can't we get to literally, literally exactly. It's like, it's like they had a five year old just pick a bunch of things and be like, let's, let's mesh these all together. Yeah. And I, you know, if, if one team had a Jersey like that, you'd be like, Oh, that's kind of cool. But when everyone's got it, you're like, what are we, what are we doing here? Guys? Let's switch. Yeah. It's so over the top. Like imagine if the Packers wore jerseys with like cartoon cheeses all over it. I mean that'd be kind of cool. Once. Yeah. Once.

Hey, hey, hey, I'm a Packers fan. Me too. Are you an owner? I wish. Yeah, you'll get there. I don't get there one day. You should go to your economics class next period and you'll learn that being an owner, there's really no benefits. I got a I got a question though What kind of money do you make doing this? Oh? well, I have sponsors that pay for most of the trips and then incentives from them with how I do and

then the tournament has winnings to so And then the tournament has winnings too. So all those tied together, it's, you know, it's pretty good for me just being 17. What do you clear in a year? Come on. But for taxes. Uh, well it does get sent to, I have a ACL app and then it gets sent through that. Like they don't pay cash. So I would say between league nights,

which they pay cash and then weekends where I play that it's probably 30 grand, 30 to 40 grand. Let's go. Not bad. And if you weren't in school in high school or you'd be playing more, you make more than that. Or is that kind of where you top out a little bit? Yeah, I would definitely be able to make more. I'd have more time. I mean, there you go. So are you going to go to college or are you just going right to the league? I'm in league. I know, but are you going to go full time in the league? Probably not. I want to become an electrician. Wow. I mean, you're ready to give

it all up to, to go be an electrician right now. Sparky, huh? Well, no, how I look at it is like, if I, if I can do school in cornhole, then I can do a job in cornhole. So it's, Hey, that's smart. You know, that way when it comes time to do the electric in your home, you're not wasting your money hiring an electrician. You can even, you can customize the lights on your basement cornhole. What do you call it? What do you call the cornhole? Court court court. You got to leave guy lights. Yeah. You want to light it. Let me go look sexy. How do you think the, we just had a bowler on here talking about how bowling

should be an Olympic sport. Do you think that corn hall should also be an Olympic sport? Well, they tried like they'd really tried pushing it. But the biggest thing is like if you're not a lot of juniors play do when I say juniors, I mean like 18 and under so a lot of junior players play so it would be smart for them to try and get into it But the biggest thing is all the older players right now They drink and there's no alcohol in the Olympics. So that would be Just in big They like quitterly won't want to play if they can't drink?

Basically. Yeah. A lot of them. I love that about you think they call it. That is great. I can't do this sober. Yeah. It's like, okay, like I can golf, but if it's, there's no beer card, then why are we going out there? Exactly. That's, that's how, that's how a lot of these guys are. It's hilarious. They got buckets. They're just buying them by the buckets. Well, and they probably hit a sweet spot of some sort where there's just the hole is three feet wide. Yeah. Yeah. You know, they're 12 beers deep and suddenly the

whole room is a hole and they're just hot dog down a hallway with that cornhole bag. It's performance enhancing drugs. So, um, when you go out on the road, so funny that that's the main thing up. And it's like, it's like, it's, it just so adds up that cornhole such a Midwest thing that like, that's the reason why they can't get in Olympics is cause like I'm not willing. Can you imagine? I'm not willing to win a gold medal if it means that I can't drink the guy negotiating with the Olympic committee. So what you're telling me here is I can't have a beer out there. Yeah. Pack it up. We're going. What kind of communist shit are you guys running? We don't need you. We got Johnson bill brought Bush's bees is on deck, you know? And Bush. Yeah. Is Johnson bill really, they really want one

out on that one, didn't they? Are they still the sponsor of the whole league? No, they're not bushes now. Oh, that, that just happened then. I think two years ago, maybe. Oh, well, what the hell do I know? So far, I do come up. I know. Professional Cornwall hadn't been the case since you were 15. So what? Let's say I want to get better at cornhole.

What are like the three things that I should focus on to get better at cornhole? Oh my god The one the one thing that I do that I notice pros don't do is I do a one step into my throw and I notice It's kind of like shooting a free throw in basketball They don't jump when they shoot so they can make the shot the same is that really killing me doing the step? Well, some people stuff. Okay, there's all that stuff. So I wouldn't say that's the issue. Okay. Throw it, throw it at me. What, what, what are the, what, what should I do? Well dude, this is exactly why I called on because people, when I go to like league nights, they're like,

they always joke and they're like, Oh, you know, I gotta pay you to help me with my throw. And then it's like, ha ha ha. And then they're like 30 questions later, they're just picking my whole brain out. And it's like, how do I get out of that? Because it's like, I'm 30 yeah. Okay. And cool. And I can't get out of helping these people because they just keep their down my throat. I don't want to help them. Right. That's like that's in tiger woods. How to get better at golf. Like he doesn't want to give away his secret. No, no, no. I get it. I get it. Just called himself the tiger woods of the ACL. I, well, I know, I know this. All right. Well, call me. All right. You can call me Justin Thomas. All right. Well, I'll give you that.

Yeah. Here's the Jordan Spieth maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jordan Spieth has washed up. I'm not washed up. True. True. True. True. We will tell you how to get out of telling everyone your cornhole secrets. As soon as you give us your cornhole secrets. Sound good. Oh, secret for a secret. All right. So when I'm throwing the the bag here Okay Am I adding a little spin to it because I usually add a little spin make it go clockwise And then it kind of grinds down like a little screw on the board. I've noticed is that a good tactic? So a spin as in Spinning it in the air like a pancake or spinning it in the air like a frisbee like a pancake

Yeah, yeah. Yeah like a frisbee. Yeah. Yeah. Like a frisbee. Yeah. That's flat. That's the best technique you want. It's flat bag flat bags. Don't go horizontal bag in it. Nope. You always need a flat bag. That's how you'll be the most consistent to keep the bag going straight up the board. Yep. Okay. We got that. What else? I would say this is kind of obvious, but a lot of people don't do it. It's the follow through. Yeah. Obviously want to follow through straight to the hole. You know, it's just like any other shot. It's just, you want, you want to make sure your hands straight every time. And the biggest thing too is hips. I know it sounds crazy, but like wherever your hips go,

nine times out of 10, your arms are going. So if you're stepping and you're, let's say, are you a lefty or a righty, Mark? I'm a lefty, Charlie's a righty. You're a left, I'm a lefty too, so this will be perfect. For you. When you step, do you step with your right foot? Obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So when you're stepping, then your hips are going, your right hips going farther than your left

tip. And then that might cause your arm to follow through in a different way because you're all your momentum's not going forward. It's just your right side's going forward. All right. So just like when I'm in the bedroom, I want all my energy going directly to the hole. Exactly. It's like, it's like procreates. It's like a parallel. It's like a parallel. I don't know. Parallel train track. I guess it's just, you want everything going a fluid motion and a fluent follow through everything straight Also next week you can skip you can skip sex ad because I just gave you everything you need to Perfect I can thank you. Yeah, so if I'm right-handed am I stepping with my right foot then Well, that's also

preference my left foot. If you can't do that, I step with my right foot. That means you should step with your left foot, Charlie. Really? Yeah. No, that's your right foot. That's your right foot. There you go. That's it.

Yeah. Well, how did you do it? Yeah. Okay. Okay. All right. So how were you doing it? I was doing right foot.

Yeah. I mean, okay. I see now. I see. Yeah. Okay. All right. So how were you doing it? I was doing right foot. Yeah. I mean, okay. I see now. I see. Yeah. I mean, some people, some people step with the same hand they throw with. Okay. So there are no wrong answers here in cornhole miles. There is no under wrong answers. Whatever you feel most comfortable. Okay. Anything else I need to focus on? What about mentally? Where am I looking? Am I looking at the whole man? Looking at nothing. Am I doing it? Eyes closed. You know, I look at all personally, but some people look a little bit down on the board because that's where they want to weigh in the bag. Okay. Do you want to land right before the hole and have it slide in?

Yeah, that's the goal. Okay. Yeah. But I mean, that doesn't get the crowd going. A absolute dunk gets the people going. It's true. Oh, an air mail. Yes. That's what it's called. And an air mail gets the people off their feet. I mean, roll back their feet too. Okay. You guys know what a role where you knock it off, would knock the other guys off the hole and yours goes in. No, you hit the back of the hole, right? Oh, no. It's when a bags in front of the hole and then like your opponent's bags in front of the hole. And then your bag rolls over their bag and into the hole. Damn, you can do that. Yeah, I can. It's a tough shot. A lot of people, like if you throw a faster bag, it's tough, but I throw a carpet bag. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able

to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. I'm not going to be able to do that. meaning that you can't design it because it's carpet and there's just different materials. It's not actually carpet. Like I thought you were going to the hardware store and getting a carpet sample and fashioning it into a cornhole bag. I yeah, no, that's not it. Has anyone

tried actual carpet as a material? Yes. It's not good. It's well, I mean, I, I guess I've never seen it, but the slower the bag, the worse it is. So you can use different bags. There aren't standard bags. There are standard bags, but there's different materials that you can use. So, but you can choose whatever material. So it's, it's not like corking a baseball bat. This is, this is part of the game. Yeah. Yeah, it is part it's, it's, it's not like corking a baseball bat. This is, this is part of the game. Yeah. Yeah, it is part it's there's different styles. So like if you want to just go in the hole every single time or try to,

if you could do that, you would never lose. But if you want to try and go in the hole every single time, you might throw a faster bag because it's more like AB to go in versus a slower bag. If you're trying to block the hole and create it to where you have to roll and chew air mills. Can you grab a different bag in the middle of the match? No.

So once you start the match, that's what you're stuck with? Game by game. So when you start a game and then end the game, the next game, I could switch bags. Can you have different bags? So like, can you throw a fast bag to start and then have a slow bag to hold up the rear? No, they all gotta be the same. Oh, strategy strategy. But don't a professional cornhole bags have two sides? So like they'll do a one on each. Yeah they do. I use what the company is called BG cornhole is what I use. Shout out a shout out BG cornhole. They helped me out and they got personally, I think they have the best bag to roll. It's they have the best fill

inside that feels the best. So we used to sell local bags on our website with our logo on it. Yeah. I remember you guys had them. He's thoroughly unimpressed. What's his reply? I'm an OG man. Yeah. Appreciate it, man. So when you were like 10 years old, you're watching content. Well, I really like, we got to talk to your dad. I start putting some screen time limits on your phone. Actually, it was the TV, YouTube TV. Oh, there we go. Yeah. So do do cornhole athletes? You guys are athletes. Do you guys is it intense competition? Are people nice? Do you see fights? Um, yeah, actually basically everything you just said you see.

Okay. Yeah. Well the above, I would say like 99% of the people are awesome. You know, everyone's cool with each other and the games are very competitive just cause there's a lot on the line, you know, money wise and points wise. Yeah, I made the mistake one time of making the cornhole tournament that we'd have on a frozen lake. The purse was like five grand or something and whole we pros were just coming out of the woodwork and it's went supposed to be like this fun like beer drinking event and it just turned into like pros like yeah it was intense Wow you're not the pros were odd no there's a local guy that I think won it Cody

Henderson I don't I don't necessarily know his name, but if I saw his face, I would say hello to him I've seen him multiple times in Fargo It was either pry Adam Hisner Cody Henderson. Okay, we'll look him up Yeah, what's the equivalent to charging the mound in cornhole? Charging the board does ever happen like happen? Like someone does a bad throw and piss the other guy off or something? Like is there a standard? You know, like you drop your gloves in hockey.

Yeah, there are fights that happen, but it's never like, I don't really know honestly. Like a lot of it actually has to do with like trash talking because there is a lot of trash talking so that's how fights are only start it never really has to do with actual cornholes just people's mouths running okay what does trash talk look like in the cornhole community it's just I personally I don't do I'm pretty quiet at the tournaments. Like me and the bunch of junior players are pretty quiet, but I mean, I've seen, it's just like heckling. It's just like, you know, cheering against the person, but also heckling when they miss and take that magic to shove it up your corn hole. Oh, there you go. I have one last question

for you. Why is it that if I go and play a bunch of games at cornhole in an evening, my right butt cheek the next day is just sore. Like I lifted weights and the right leg is my plant leg. And I, I got it to that. Am I just, am I doing something wrong? Am I, am I too tense? What's happening? Yeah, you might, you might be too tense. I mean, how big's your step? Are you taking a big step? What's going on? Maybe I'm taking a bigger step than I think. Like maybe I'm like a pitcher on a mound. Maybe it's dried miles. I wonder if you have my butt cheek hurt. So you never have no, and I'm a lefty too, and I step with my right foot.

So. Miles, I think you gotta get to the bottom of this, honestly, using yourself as a guinea pig, because how great would it be if you put your exercise scientist degree to work and you became like the trainer for the cornhole teams? Yeah. You know?

It's just really tough to talk to a bunch of guys who drink while they're doing their professional sport about how to better their body. You know? Yeah, that's true. Dude, I would hire you on a heartbeat to help now. Are you sure? What would you pay them? Depends, depends. It would, there would be a week of like a practice for the coach. And then from

there we'll go and see how good he really is. Oh, so you want to do an audition. You want to do a little interview. Yeah. Try. Yeah. All right. You'll see that I'm worth about 20% of your winnings. So, well, I mean, that's, that's not much. You're at six grand for a full-time gig. Damn it. Well, now to answer your question of how do you get people to stop? How do you get people to stop coming up to you and asking questions about cornhole like we just did for the past 20 minutes here? Well, I mean, you guys don't't know like the actual game, like the

actual, I shouldn't say the actual game, but just like you guys don't know the pro division. So it's reasonable for you guys to have questions. So, but these people like know what's going on. Like they've known me and like they know how to play the game. And it's like, I'm trying to play a tournament here and like, you guys are talking to me about how to fix you guys' throw. And it's like, dude, can you just like, let me play and not like, keep talking my ear off. And then it's just like, it just gets annoying over time. So I was just wondering like, well, what would your guys take be? Because I don't want to obviously be mean. And then, you know, you can't do that so I

Think you need to have you bet if you know anything about the chess community No, well there's a guy named Magnus Carlson and he's the best chess player in the world and He does a little psychological warfare with the people he's playing He will start he will show up late his clock will start And he does a little psychological warfare with the people he's playing. He will start, he will show up late. His clock will start and then he'll come out and make the person wait for him. And then he just goes. And so what you need to do is you need to just start removing yourself from the situation

and be the cornhole man of mystery and just show up exactly when you're supposed to start. One it's going to rattle your opponent, maybe make them a little pissed off. And then you also don't have to answer everyone's questions. That is actually a really good point because I, I don't even practice before the turn. And then some people do, but I don't. So I don't even have to be there early. He's not even out there doing practice pots before 18 holes. No. You know what else you could do if that doesn't work. Get yourself some sunglasses, some I gogs with the fire racing stripes. I'm no one will talk to you. No one. No one. Perfect. Might be trying that one too. Yeah. You could try sunglasses and headphones. That's

what I have on headphones. I have tried, but people still tap my shoulder and then it's more annoying to take them out. Have your dad dress up in a full tux and a, like a clear earpiece that they have in the news and like the secret service and just have them be your bodyguard. There you go. I was thinking you miles. Why don't you see my bike? The miles show up to a tournament and full, full tuxes and just be a security. We should do that. Where are you playing? Are you coming to Fargo or Milwaukee anytime soon? I think the closest to you guys would be Michigan. Yeah. Yeah. Not not.

You let us know when you're in our zip code. OK. We'll come on out and support. I'll dust off my best suit near peace. Well, this was pretty good. Do we answer all your questions there? Anything else you want to get off your chest? No, not really. I think, I think we're pretty good. Do you guys have any questions about the cornhole? I know it's not that, not that popular that you come across the player that you can ask questions to.

What's the perfect number of, um, beans in a cornhole bag? I have no idea. I know they're plastic they're basically like plastic pebbles But there are different there's like, you know specific weights that they have to be I think it's like Shoot I don't even know maybe like one pound a bag pound a bag Yeah, so what you guys have like Walmart ones. They're definitely way lighter. You know, or just any, any commercial store, like the cheap ones, they're definitely

lighter. Yeah. They're trying to save all the money on plastic beads that they can pass. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, I appreciate you calling in, man. This is great. I'm going to be looking for you on ESPN. I'm going to be, I think you just gained a couple fans. You did. I hope so. I'm a fan of you, so I'd be cool if we're like mutually, you know, mutual fans and someday maybe we can be friends. We'll see though. What's your shout out? Your are you on Instagram? Can we see your shot? Yeah. What is it?

Yeah. Cam underscore Dan Brosia. Cam underscore Dan Brosia. Well, man, we appreciate you calling in and good luck. Have a good weekend and good luck high school next week. Yeah. We'll see at your next tournament. Yeah, we'll see you at your next tournament Actually Monday, I'm going striper fishing. I'm skipping school. So let's go good for you a senior striper day. Oh Yeah. Oh, yeah, man. Have a good one, man All right. Thank you. I appreciate it. You betcha. Oh

That it well Charlie that's another episode of the belly to a podcast in the books. My books. Good times. Miles. It's been a pleasure. Pleasure's all mine. All right. And this is where you say, no, it's all mine. Charlie. It's all mine. All right, folks. Well, make sure you get out here and golf sometime and right, miles. Yeah. Yeah. CJ's Tavern, CJ's Tavern right here in the Rosebush Golf Course. Something like that. There you go. Yeah. All right. Well, folks, this has been a great time.

You guys make sure you tip your bartender and we'll see you next time. OK, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now. Oodaloo.