Bellied Up - The Most Dysfunctional Family We've Ever Seen #177

Episode Date: November 26, 2025

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Miles, we are back. We are bold. We are brave. We are bellying up to the bar. We are bellied up to the bar. Charlie, how are you feeling? Feeling great, Miles. Feeling great. We got Thanksgiving coming up. It's a time of the year where, you know, the whole scenery just seems a little browner. You know, deer blend in more. Everything's just deer color it everywhere you look. you know most people would say colorful and you're saying we're past that stage now fall has fallen miles we are just in in the the dregs before is that for sure the reason why fall is called fall yeah because because all the leaves fall uh yeah yeah that's for sure right Jared is that for sure it yeah yeah that's the reason pretty simple

Same way. I suppose spring is because things spring out of the ground and new leaves spring out of the tree. Is that why? It kind of, but spring is when a lot of species start chiboinking again. And so I think they're talking about it's more so a hip movement of springing. Well, they called it sprung for a while, but then they had to make it more PG miles. So, yeah, it's because it's called spring because you're springing your wiener into something. I mean, I'm not, I'm not going to speak. But like the deer ruts in the fall.

I know. I don't know. I don't know. I think it's springing out of the ground. Birds and the bees, I think, are doing it more in the spring. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's, I think, yeah, I think.

Although that's not totally true. There's a lot of birthing going on there. maybe it's springing out so it's springing out of mammals vaginas yes a lot of that going on in the spring i think i guess so i guess it seems like he's got some information the season is called spring because it comes from the old english word springing meaning to leap or burst forth referring to plants springing out of the ground oh let's go wow dude you had it right to begin with you're overthinking it my god you just tried to say i tried you just try to say that that that bird Birds' dinghies are called springs.

Well, you know, some of them. Have you ever seen a duck trying mate? It's a corkscrew. Miles, what's your biggest insecurity as a child? What is it? Probably not being good enough. Not being good enough? Get more specific.

I remember this one time. I always wanted to play quarterback. but I was a little bit chunkier a little bit slower and when you're in middle school you kind of need to have some wheels to play quarterback because you're not passing it as much and I remember there's many events like this

but I remember another kid got the starting quarterback job in like seventh grade when I thought I should have got it and so I was insecure about that damn yeah I was in Taekwondo from the ages of five to nine you were in Taekwondo five to nine black belt

show me some moves man um not the time i'm talking i'm getting in i'm getting talking i'm being vulnerable okay sorry sorry this isn't the time to joke around i didn't mean to um i got second place in taekwondo tournaments every time really we're talking first loser every single time i went to a uh taekwondo competition and then i i only got gold i only got first place one time. Wow. And what was different that time that got you the first place? Did the other guy get sick? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Yeah, I fucking dick. Yeah. No, I got that much better, you know? Did you and did you, but I think it's, I think my biggest insecurity is that I'm just like not good enough. Wow. Well, that's probably what keeps you driving. I know, and it's terrible. It is. I don't recommend

being insecure about not being good enough to anyone out there. Yeah, because you're never good enough. And it's like, it's not even about what the world thinks of it anymore. It's like you just now have it in your own head that you expect to be a certain way. And then when you aren't, you're all insecure about it. I had this teacher once tell me, Charlie, this was after I turned in a paper light, she said, Charlie, you're always on the edge of greatness. And I was like, what stuff? What is, what?

She probably meant it as an inspirational thing, but instead it was just a fact. She did not mean it as inspirational. This was after I was apologizing for turning my paper in light, hoping she wasn't. and docked me points. And she was like, you're always on the edge of greatness, aren't you? Shut up, Miss Steinberg. And if she would have said it like, Charlie, you were on the edge of greatness. Yeah. That would have been inspirational, but it was not like that. No, it was like, you're, you're always just never enough. Day late, a dollar short? Day late, dollar short. It's actually your middle name, isn't it? Charlie, day late, dollar short, errands.

Pretty much it. Yeah, that is my middle name, not my given middle name, but we have something to address too by way i just realized what um jared you know that charlie hasn't watched any of our videos because he hasn't said anything yet oh fuck what happened that's that makes this so much better that he hasn't seen it we're going to get a live reaction of a video that i posted talking about charlie barrens what yeah last week yeah i'll show you is this a truck one just hold on yeah so you have seen it I did she it. And I left to comment on it, too. I left to comment.

Did you read my comment? Charrans and I'm... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. This is great radio here. Hold on. It's great radio here. My name is Barley Charrans, and I'm not as cool as that Ford guy. So I bought a Chevy.

Tell your cousins. I say hi and watch out for geese. Now, what did I comment? I said the sirloin of the sky. You see that? We were supposed to start a rap beef, you know? Oh. You know?

I took it as an honor. I thought it was fun. I thought I, well, people were calling for Charlie Barron's rebuttal and we just never got, or Barley Charran's rebuttal and we never got it. Damn, I'm sorry, dude. I saw that. I was at the casino. I saw it.

I was there. So if you're wondering, Charlie has way more real estate in my head than I have in no i was there it was my grandma's birthday we were out we were gambling um doing that and then i saw that pop up and then i was like oh i should look at this and i thought it was fun i thought it was flattering you know you have to try harder next time i'll get meaner i will yeah get a little meaner okay not too much meaner because i know how you can go oh okay um so you're talking about you're gambling with your grandma sue yeah okay i am 100% intrigued by your grandma sue in a non-romantic way no no i wasn't yeah i'm not romantically intrigued at your grandma sue i am

platonically interested yeah in your house yeah you want to be friend you want you want you want to hang with grandma yeah yeah um she should write a book she should and uh for those that don't know grandma sue uh want you to tell me a little bit about your grandma sue well grandma sue she just turned to 88 years old um she has many hobbies uh she likes powerball tickets and going to the casino and um uh she likes the daily scratchers too um yeah and so she got a lot of hobbies yeah she she likes Hallmark movies. Yeah. She's a very Christian woman, too.

Yep, Catholic. Catholic. Sorry, didn't mean to swear. She says her, says her rosary. Says it for me, you know, that's going to get me out of purgatory. She says it for you, but what she really says it for us so that she can win at the casino, correct? She does do that.

Yeah, one time we went to Our Lady a Champion, which is a shrine in Wisconsin, our lady a champion and um uh that's basically where this woman back in the 1800s she saw the vision of mary and you know she they built her a shrine yep you know that's how that's how worked back in the day that's why you know catholics it's a little bit nicer than like you know the uh the quakers you know or whatever's out there in salem yeah well in salem if a woman said i saw the vision they would have been like, ah, her name's Ash now, you know. So, yeah, but, you know, back in Wisconsin, we got that. So I went there with her to the shrine.

And next door, they were selling apparation dirt. Just dirt where this woman saw the mother married, 10 bucks a bile of dirt. At what point does it become not the dirt that she was standing on? Well, I mean, this, the, this is just. sell a thousand vials at some point you're just now just giving out you're just selling dirt well that's all they're doing this is not even associated with the shrine it's just the house next to the shrine they're just you know so you bought your grandma bought dirt no she didn't she she she wasn't really fond of that i bought the dirt okay yeah i've got sitting on my it's dangling from my rearview mirror

right now it's really yeah yeah it's a it's a it's a pretty big jar too it's like not but I got some nice burlap to make it. So have you had to sum up Grandma Sue's philosophy for life into a few bullet points? What would it be? Just keep on gambling. Gamble. Yep. The answer to everything is gambling?

Well, it's not everything. It's just it makes it a little bit more exciting, you know? Just there's a thrill. And I got to tell you, I was not a slots guy before I started taking my grandma to the casino. Yeah, you just haven't done slots with the right person is what you're saying. Yeah, but I'm addicted to slots. Lots, dude. I am a day. I mean, and I think that's like kind of the whole point. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, this. Yeah, I think we're getting to the root of a pretty deep issue here. Yeah. And you look at like older generations, looking at the younger generations. Like, how can they sit there on their TikToks all day and just do this? And then you go to the casino. It's same thing. Same thing. Same church, different, Pugh. But you can make money on the casinos. You can also make money on TikTok as well. can absolutely but um yeah i would say i would say it's just uh enjoy life live in the moment

forget about paying your um car registration we got pulled over on the way back from the casino uh because my grandma didn't pay her car registration i've gotten pulled over with my grandma like three times three times once for speeding twice for speeding does she talk her way out of it or no we tried talking our way out of this um like my grandma was like my grandma was like, oh, no, we're just going to Culver's, get some ice cream, you know, we, I didn't realize we had to pay that. And the guy was like, it's been expired two years. I was like, oh, shit. And then Mary. Why don't you just play the dementia card? I mean, I was, that's my plan. As soon as I start getting white hair. Yeah. I'm playing the dementia card left and right. You're getting the,

you're starting to put some white in your hair just so you can play. Yeah. It's a touch of gray. Yeah. But I'm applying it like 10 times in a row so it's just gray and then you just play dementia it's not a bad you ever played dementia before I mean I feel like I sometimes do on this podcast accidentally

what podcast this one I just forget things sometimes what podcast are we podcasting is this a podcast and that's how you played dementia yeah oh see that no I see you're just as confused as I I know. I know. And that would... Imagine doing that to a cop.

The cop. I think we had some... We were almost there. I feel like, you know, he's kind of on the edge. But then my aunt Mary saw that he had pink handcuffs. He did. He had regular handcuffs and pink handcuffs. It wasn't in October. It wasn't in October. It wasn't for breast cancer awareness. It might have been left over from breast cancer awareness. No, I'm not sure why I'm pink handcuffs. But then my aunt Mary said, could you use those on me? To the cop? Yeah, I was like, Mary, you can't sexually harass a cop, dude. and so we got to take it so that sucked that sucked yeah like 150 bucks you know and they made you pay it for sure um i think i gave some money we had a good day at the casino

so it's like paid for itself no harm no foul that's why you go to the casino to pay for you well if your grandma was bogged down with all of the logistics of paying for her registration then she wouldn't be as good at the casino that's true she's got to have a clear mind for you know and i'll tell you this about the casino is the animations on the casino can really get you do not go to the one with the you know the like attractive ladies they never pay out never do you have a good time though oh yeah i had a great time had a great time um no it's fun man guys right now prize picks will give you fifty dollars in lineups when you play your first five of a dollar lineup win or lose you'll get 50 bucks in lineups use promo code belly

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money and you can make your picks before or even during live events. Because I know, Charlie, sometimes you're late to the party. I'm late to the party. Late to the game. You can still place prize picks even if the game's going on. Well, that's great for me. Player picks, team picks, culture picks, all one app. Hey, Miles. Look at this. Just took a player pick. I'll send it to Ann.

All right. It's fun. We like doing that. We like going to the casino. We like driving there. We get a good kick out of it, you know, just chit-chatting, jabbering, stealing Mary's phone, see who she's swiping on on Catholic match. Yeah, you have a very interesting dynamic because.

is your aunt Mary. Uh-huh. How old is she? She's 65, 65, 66, 66. Having a single 65-year-old aunt is kind of an interesting thing. Yeah. You know, it gets tough, the dating pool. It closes up on you pretty quick, you know, and when you're in your 60s.

You don't have a ton of... I feel like it might open up then, though, because, you know, people start dropping off, dropping off, going and seeing the Lord. Yeah, but people are pretty... Never seen The Golden Bachelor? It's kind of what's all about. Oh, yeah. Do they still do that show, The Golden Bachelor?

Oh, yeah. really yeah um yeah i mean you kind of get the second runs but people are very set in their ways once they get older you know oh yeah so it's a lot of parents yeah yeah it's a lot of you come over here no you come over here i guess this isn't going to work that's true no you sell your you sell your giant house no you sell your giant house yeah the next thing you know it just doesn't work out a lot of times people when they get older they just kind of have that was a little boomers aren't downsizing joke. Oh, hey.

See, a better co-host would have picked up on that. It was subtle, though. You'll stick with me. I got you with playing dementia and now this. Yeah, yeah. I'm here with you, Miles. We should play dementia with one of our callers today. Oh, that's not a bad idea.

Not a bad idea at all. Should we do it? We could. At least until they get mad at us. They're probably going to get mad because I was, I was, when you said, what's a podcast? I was like, are we not podcast? For a second, I thought we weren't podcasting.

I was like, what are we doing here? You could also just call the game gas lighting. Yeah, it's kind of the same thing. Yeah. No, we didn't call you. You called us. Deal. You called us.

What are you doing? Miles Thanksgiving's coming up. What's the worst? What's the worst thing to serve at Thanksgiving? What's the worst Thanksgiving food? Yeah. I think, I mean, it's just so hard to not go with the main one of, like, green bean casserole, just something like that. Yeah.

I think, I think it also depends. You got to read the room when it comes to food at Thanksgiving, you know? I think if you got a bunch of kids, you should have some sugary sweet stuff in there. Yeah. And all that. But I don't know. I just, like, for my last meal, I may choose a traditional Thanksgiving meal. Oh, for you.

Do you think you're going to be in a position where you get to choose your last meal? Like, you're assuming you killed somebody and are on death row. No. Nobody else chooses their last meal. No, yeah, 100%. You're 99. You're kind of mentally like, I'm going to go within the next 24 hours. You could request Thanksgiving meal.

Is that how it goes, you think? you're in a nursing home you're 99 you feel like you're going to die you don't think you can request a exotic meal i bet you could request an exact you're just going to the nurse is like actually we've had budget cuts this quarter and uh so i could maybe do a tv dinner maybe not a thanksgiving dinner for your last meal i know you said risotto what do you feel about ramen that'd be good that'd be real good um Yeah. You're going to go a nursing home, you think? Mm-mm. Mm-mm. No. No, I don't think so. I mean, everybody says they're not going to.

You know, people might not die anymore. We take knowledge is going. Okay. So, so you're banking that you're just not going to die. So you're not even the nursing home isn't even on your radar. No, I mean, I think we're all going to be in some kind of, I don't really know. It's tough to tell with the future. these days, but I feel like I'm not, I think I'm going to go off to the woods. I think I'm going to go off like a wounded deer and just find a tree and lay down for a little bit. You're just going to bleed out in the woods? Yeah, something like that.

How are you going to be bleeding? Well, will you have stabbed yourself? No, no, no. I wouldn't do it on my, I go in dressed as a deer and just see what happens. That might be kind of the most sterling way to go out. Dressed like a deer and just start

grotting in the woods, opening, weekend. I'm doing all the calls, you know? Yeah. That might be good. And by then, costumes will be so killer. I bet you I could look just like a deer. I mean, you're going to die. You just like pay like a Hollywood guy to like do you up, like Grinch style. Yeah. Jim Carrey, but as a deer. And if you think about it, if you're standing like a deer, it's sort of the same place you want to shoot, you know, hits you right in the heart there. Yeah. Yeah. That's why.

you want them broadside for sure exactly i'm just i'm just broadsiding everyone you know so i'm baiting the humans you're either not dying or you are going to get in deer costume on opening weekend and trot through the woods hoping to get shot or i hook up with the mental baggage you would put on that hunter for the rest of his life i'd get over it i'd leave him a note i'd say this was the way i wanted to go yeah yeah He spreads you open to gutcha and there's a note taped to your underbelly. Dear Hunter. It would say, dear Hunter. It would say, Dear Hunter.

D-E-A-R. Hopefully I got your first name right. He reads and he's like, God, he just, how do you know that I was in here? This is a very specific note. How does he know my name's Hunter? Starts out with like, oh, you got me. Oh, I guess you weren't watching Ope. I guess you were watching out for deer.

Great job, dare guy. You just write it in accent. You know, how would you want to go? It would suck, though. He doesn't hit you in the heart. Just catches your hind leg and you just have to like, just that's the way you go. Just bleed out from legwood.

Oh, God. Yeah. This doesn't sound like a great plan after we've hashed it out now, you know. But I already said it. How do you want to go, Mike? miles um you know i'm a i'm a i'm a analytics guy so like i'm probably going to die of either a stroke cancer or heart attack okay and if you're really playing into the numbers yeah we talked about this on you bet your radio the chances of dying by traumatic death are pretty low it's going to be

more of a slow burn like cancer for years as you slowly deteriorate and life isn't very good and you kind of wish you were dead by the end of it anyways At that point, you can just go skydiving, you know. No parachute. No, I have a parachute, but you just run the numbers there. Yeah, you can go skydiving. Rocky Mountain climbing. We'll go Rocky Mountain climbing.

Yeah. You could ride a bowl. Go 2.7 seconds. Yeah. The bowl I got my eye on is Blue Man Shoe. Blue Man Shoe. I think that's what the name is. Is that what he said?

Yeah. Blue Man shoe. It's a bull. I just, yeah. I got my eye on him. I mean, I can go 2.7 seconds. I mean, like, statistically, I'm going to die probably one of those three.

Have you done everything you want to do before your, is your bucket list all crossed off? I would say no. Like, there's probably, you know, I haven't been to Europe. I need to go to Europe. You know? Europe?

It's on your bucket list? Well, it's just like something I got to do before I die. You don't have to? No, and that's where I was going with this. I have stuff like that on my list that, like, stuff I'd like to do. Yeah. But I'm also to the point now where I don't need anything else.

So if I did die without doing anything else, I feel would be like, yeah, I did what I needed to do. Yeah. Where do you think we go when we die, Miles? Wow. Where do humans or where do you and I go? Where do we go? we go to that big old bar in the sky there now i don't think we're going to hell charlie but we definitely aren't going straight to heaven no we got a we got a good good sentencing in uh purgatory

but we're going to do it right though like we're going to become the fun guys in purgatory i think i imagine we could still podcast when we get there i bet you we could we could have people from heaven and hell call into our purgatory podcast oh that would be good yeah today we're taking hell callers hell callers only where are you at and what did you do to get there yeah there you go kind of a kind of a banger segment idea i bet you purgatory we should start asking our callers if they think they're going to heaven or hell that would be good i think we should do that i think we should end each call with that start it with let's let's do that today okay so here's what the little rundown is we're going to

ask them do you guys think you're going to heaven or hell uh-huh and then immediately followed up by playing dementia that's smart this is going to be a great podcast i already know it i already know it this is well the the first person will really tell us how this goes because thanks for taking our call first question on the docket you're going to heaven you're going to hell also what's your biggest childhood insecurity i'm i'm liking it i'm mapping out the direction of this in our in my head right now I think this is going to go fucking awesome

sorry there we go that's why we're that's why we're going to be doing we're going to be bellied up to the pearly gates we're not going to be inside we're just going to be right up to it we're going to tail we're going to be tailgating heaven

you know tailgating heaven we're going to be the tailgating guys that don't buy a ticket to the game they just go and watch the game on a TV in the bed of the truck we just assume that we'll find one in if we don't you know yeah it'll be fun we're not even gonna have our own tailgate set up we're just going to show up to tailgate with a case of beer and just talk

our way into a tailgate if you go to lambo and you tailgate you can watch a game on the jumbo tron from the outside that'll be us that's us we can hear the roar honestly it sounds better anyways in a lot of ways yeah beer's cheaper beer's cheaper do you think in heaven you have to pay for beer And I think in heaven there is no beer. So that's why we drink it here. Wise man once said, I think that was George Strait. George Strait. You know, we should do tailgate in heaven as like a Midwest country song.

What do you think about that? Yeah, we could. Yeah. We wrote it right here. Well, should we piss off some callers, Miles? Yeah, yeah, I think we should. All right, let's do it. Miles Black Friday's done.

So now you're hauling the relatives, the dog, that mystery shot. shopping cart full of stuff. You don't even remember buying the family vans full, the driveway slick, and someone clips the bumper backing you out. Next thing you know, you're in the ER instead of the kitchen. If that post-holiday shuttle turns into a crash, I'll tell you who's there to handle the mess, Miles. Nicolay Law, Russell, Nicolay, Beard and All, baby.

You just call them up, 1-855, Nicolay. The last thing you want is your Black Friday to turn into Black Eye Friday. But if you end up in that scenario, call Nicolay. I call Nicolay. Charlie, you never want to be the guy who shows up to holiday party empty-handed. No, you can't be that guy. You got to bring something. You got to bring something.

And even if you have nothing in your hands and you're short on time, all you got to do is pull up to a liquor store and pick up some tippy cow chocolate shake. Tippy cow. You'll have a liquid dessert in your hands quicker than you're parking at the mall. Which, look at the mall is tough. Yeah, it is. Pour it over ice and boom, you just serve drinks everyone actually wants. It's an easy to one to gift.

It's easy to drink and even easier to pretend you put effort into it. That's the type of gift I like. One that looks like I tried hard, but in fact, I didn't. You know what, Miles? And I'll tell you, when they do put this in their glass and they take a sip, they put it to the teeth with that real Wisconsin milk once it hits the pallet. Oh, there's nothing like it. And so, guys, this holiday season, be the holiday hero. Pick up some tippy cow and have a cow. Tippy cow. Hi, is this Brady? Yeah. How are you doing? Good. How are you?

I'm doing great. Well, Brady, you got Charlie and I on the bellied up podcast. And we have a question for you right off the bat. Do you think. Go for it. Do you think you are going to heaven or hell? Oh, probably, is there somewhere in the middle? Yeah. You can tailgate heaven. You know what? I think that's where I belong, honestly.

All right. I think that's where I belong. Yep. So you're a purgatory guy. Yeah, purgatory. That's what it's called. You can brush up on my. This is kind of an interesting psychological experiment.

I think 90% of people are going to say purgatory. worry. What do you think, uh, what do you think you could have done to earn yourself, uh, a ticket to hell? Oh, there's a number of things, realistically. I mean, stealing bacon for my grandpa, it would be one of them that was pretty big, I'd be like. Wait, wait, no. Oh, so you did that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. Yeah. I was saying what could you do to go to hell? But, but, I mean, stealing bacon from your grandpa. My God. That's bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How much bacon are we talking brady well we just i mean we killed a we killed a fucking i mean freaking pig sorry about that guys yeah yeah i know so i mean there's a good amount of it but you know

a couple pounds of it realistically well you were you were you were uh embezzling bacon from your grandpa the old and you were skimming off the top from your grandpa yeah i mean realistically someone's got to make money right did you then sell the bacon uh just spend I mean, it really just depends. All right. Well, what else did you do that you should be going to hell for? I mean, geez. I've been a bad, a bad boyfriend, I guess you would say, at certain points of my life.

Oh, no. What did you do? Oh, you know, well, why about buying an engagement ring at one point? Nice. She's like, have you even bought the ring? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I bought it. Oh, it was bad.

But it is a perfect scenario because it's like, did you buy an engagement ring? Yeah. Well, let me see it. Well, no, I can't show it to you yet. Yeah, it's got to be a surprise. Perfect thing to lie about, actually. Oh, it turned out bad, though. Right.

So I ended up had me being me also, I was so anxious about this and being, so I've been dating, real, let's get this. I've been dating this girl for about eight years and, you know, at that point in time, she's starting to want to, you know, get married, start a family. etc yeah you obviously know this guys um the classic song and dance exactly but anyway so what it happened was is we split apart for a little bit and did the long distance thing and ultimately you know she was pressing me about getting married and i didn't necessarily want to at the point in time but i folded to it away and borrowed my sisters engaged uh wedding ring went over my

went over my friend's house and got a ring box and they it really was just uh it was a it was a a bad day we'll put it that way and it took my girlfriend about 15 minutes to figure out that the ring was my sisters and also the box was not necessarily even a ring box so did you just get like a cardboard box from your buddy no it was it wasn't a cardboard box you know it was like a jewelry box but it wasn't like a you know like a ring box it was like a necklace it was like a necklace box one of the wide ones yeah she opened it up and it was just in the center and there's all the extra stuff. Exactly.

Well, there's like a little empty spaces. You know, realistically, there's empty spaces there for you to put other stuff. And she's like, you understand that this looks like you got from Walmart with like a buy one, get five things for free, you know? So what was, I mean, what was your end game there? You proposed to her with an engagement ring, your sister's wedding ring?

What was your plan if she would have said yes? Because I'm guessing she said no. Well, yeah, no. So here's what happened was we, this was all done over phone. So, like, we weren't in the same area, like the same state. She's from Michigan. I'm from Illinois.

So at that point in time, we split. And, like I said, we did the distance thing for a while. And that was, like, my way of trying to get her to come back, obviously. But me not thinking things through. Yeah. So it took, like, I sent a couple of pictures over to her because she was, you know, basically trying to tell me what you said, Miles, that it's fake. It's not yours.

It's your sisters, yada, yada, yada. And ultimately, she found out. and now we're just recently got back together not too long ago and then also already bought another engagement ring that I took back oh you bought another one and took it back so this

this now you're on going on nine years and two engagement ring to engage one one was your sister did your sister just give you her ring for this uh see yeah talk about the ultimate enabler yeah so if I went to my sister

and said, hey, can I borrow your wedding ring so I can tell my girlfriend I bought one? She would be like, you are a piece of shit. Do not do that. Well, you know, Miles and Charlie, it really comes down to this, though, is if they don't like the girl necessarily,

people go along with things, you know? Oh, so your sister's not a fan. So it was more like, yeah, go ahead, use my wedding ring. Here you go. I think that's a great idea. Yep. Will you? I can't wait for the wedding.

Oh, yeah, well, you know, she'll cut, actually. That's probably what would have happened. I should just go get one out of the quarter machine, you know, realistically, and it might be a better investment. No, I mean, I think the better investment in your future is to probably never get back together with this girl ever again is probably more so the way you should be thinking. I don't know.

That's just me. Yeah, I know, but, you know, you don't always think things through. You're still with her. you like great in the sack? What's going on? Oh, dude. She's, I mean, yeah, she's great in the sack. She's, she's, she's out of my league when it comes to looks wide. There we go. There is. Yeah. Out kicked his coverage. Yeah. I'll kick my coverage 100%. You know, the distance between us is, you know, we started living in different states and we still do. And she's looking at moving back down because I'm in Florida now. And she's looking at moving down here. So if she actually

moves, it'll probably be solidified. But if she doesn't, then it's, It'll be one of those things where we probably, well, like you said, Miles, I honestly should probably just be done with it. Let's be real. Why did you return the ring the second time? So, you know, her birthday was in October. And we went to Sedona, Arizona. And I was actually going to propose her out there.

Okay. Well, what had happened was Charlie is, what was it, through, like a week before, yeah, maybe a week, week and a half before we were getting ready to leave, all hell broke loose and we ended up again. you know, just like the high school couple, you know, it goes back and forth between each other. Yeah. And ultimately we ended up going out to Sedona, not even together.

And again, me being me, went out, bought an engagement ring thing, and that'll fix everything. And broke up, told her that we got the engagement ring and out of pity, or of pettiness, I guess you would say. And yeah, so not happy about it. She knows about the ring and knew about the ring. So I didn't want to give her one that I intended to give to her while we were together. and then the breakup again and ultimately we just, I don't know, it just, I wanted my money back,

which to be honest, sir. Um, do you have a car? Yeah, yeah, I do. Have you ever been in a car accident before? A couple of them, yeah. And have you ever totaled your car before? No, I haven't. So you just keep getting it fixed, right?

Yeah. Now, if you had totaled your car before. your car, would you have gotten a new car or tried to fix it? Oh, I would have bought a car. There we go. Damn it, Miles. Oh, you understood that analogy? Miles didn't even try to connect the dots on that.

The dots connected themselves, Charlie. I think this relationship's been total twice, though, to be quite honest with you. And he just keeps getting under the hood. Now, kudos to your, to your mechanic abilities. Yeah, you're able to at least get it running again. But I'm going to guess that you two, you guys were each other's first love kind of a thing. Oh, gosh, no, no, no, no. No, okay.

Well, now you have no excuse. I don't understand how you're wasting your time like this, you know. Do you think it's actually going to work out or no? Oh, my gosh, my, Charlie, I wish it would and I hope it does, but in the back of the head, you know, just like most people realize it's probably, it's probably not going to. I mean, it realistically probably won't, but you got to have hope, I guess, I feel like. And then again, I'm probably just love, love struck and blind, so. You, yeah, you're still in love with her. Yeah, you know, you know, I am.

It's weird, but it's different, dude. When you find that person that has the connection with you, you know, it tends to work out, but we just had a lot of sisters engagement ring. I know, man. Charlie well actually really Charlie it was it was actually my sister's wife's wedding ring so it was a little different

wait was your sister's wife's wedding ring so your sister's wife gave you her ring you didn't steal the ring she gave it just to see this thing go up in flames oh 100% classic enabler like you said yeah god it's nice to have supportive family though I'll say that oh I know and especially

when you have you know especially when you That's the nugget you're taking from this. You got, you sound like got a great family. It sounds that you guys all love each other. I love that. Well,

you know, Charlie and Miles, it's one of these things too where I, you know, with my voice, I left you guys, you know, coming from a family of parents

that got a divorce four times and back together with each other each time. And, uh, it definitely shows you the ropes and how to actually have a successful relationship, I feel like. Wow.

They've gotten four divorces. I didn't even tell us why you called. I don't even know. I didn't even hear. hear the voicemail. Oh, gosh. So what it was, you guys were asking about something that was something like a small town. I don't remember exactly, but my parents got married and divorced four times to each other. So obviously the classic cheating, that's not getting, not getting a long fighting stuff. But the best part about it was is the last time, my dad actually on a

choir high school choir field trip. We were in Texas and my dad ended up sleeping with my choir director. On the trip. Wow. And so, you said earlier in this call, I'm trying not to play dementia here. You said earlier call that because your parents

got married and divorced four times, you now know what a successful relationship looks like. Well, you just can't quit. No, I'm joking around about the success right there, But, you know, hey, at least they got to, at least they're determined enough to, you know, get back together, I guess you would say. Are they married still right now?

100%. 100%. Why don't they just go open relationship style? It sounds like they like each other for like codependent wise. Why don't they just go open relationship? Miles, try having that conversation with your dad. Yeah, that's true. I've already tried.

It doesn't go very well. Well, you know what? You might not be able to have that conversation with your dad. But you know who, Charlie? Who's that? You and I. Yeah, we could. We could have that kind.

You want to put your dad on? Should we call your dad and ask him if he wants to? He's actually out with my mom. This is great. We get two for one. He's out with your mom right now. We'll put them in. Yeah.

We'll do a little elevator pitch on open relationships to your parents. Oh, God. Let's, let me try. Let me get them in here. Give me a second, guys. I was kind of joking. Oh, I would.

Yeah, go for it. Go ahead. This is, I'm now, my hands are so sweaty now. All right. Give you a second,

guys. Please stop. I can't back out. My heart is beating so fast. He ended it? Oh, dude, thank God. I feel my heart. Oh, my God.

It's like boom to do boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, babe. Hey, he didn't answer. I'm sorry. He didn't answer. Thank God. That, I don't know. I was my, I was an all bark, no bite there. Yeah.

Well, come on, guys. You got to jump in. What grade you get in choir, by the way? Oh, dude, you're, you know, Charlie, you're looking at a dude that was, well, they don't give grays and choir, you know, I mean, especially. high school but I was choir a treasurer you know I was the treasurer of the high school choir you were so you were to think your dad was treasurer honestly he found he found the treasure yeah did you know that they were hooking up that night could you see the signs no no the only way

so no here's what it was is everybody in my high school even through i mean middle school high school thought that i was the one going to be sleeping with that that choir teacher well and behold no i i i didn't even realize my dad had a thing for but uh no i had a thing for it actually he actually felt betrayed yeah you your dad swooped on you he stole her from me he couldn't he you know he's like oh he's got to have her first probably this when we asked for for hometown drama i could have never imagined a love triangle larry you're like in a love octagon right now between your teacher and your totaled car girlfriend and then your parents keep getting together or not this is more than a bargain for yeah it really is i wonder have you tried hitting that

choir director up recently i thought you were just going to stop with are you hitting that choir director i thought you were going to say that and the answer the question is yes to both really so you and your dad are eskimo brothers with your course unfortunately man unfortunately unfortunately you hit up your Choir. When did you sleep with your ex-quire director? So graduated high school 2015, 2020. So you're like 23. So COVID, COVID's going on and you just decide to call your choir director up. She's been living rent free in your mind for five years. Are you with your girlfriend at this point? I, yes. Yep, yep. So you, oh my God. So both you and your dad cheated on your respective, significant others with your choir teacher?

Not first, but yes, we did. Not first? Yeah. We weren't the first one to cheat. Oh, okay. So your mom cheated first and your girlfriend cheated first before. Yeah, there you go. So, all right, so you had, you had retaliation cheating sex.

Both you and your dad had retaliation cheating sex with your choir teacher. exactly holy shit who did you ask your choir teacher who was like better you or your dad I didn't want to know that answer yeah I wouldn't either

did you kind of thumb it around though like hey did you imagine being told that like you know it's like you know off a stepbrothers you know she's ready for the young you know the young calf not the old bull you know yeah and imagine having the having her tell you the the old bull is

you know better than the young calf man did when you guys were done should go did she go oh that was cute talk about something you don't want to hear after sex oh my gosh are you done yet did you feel around for it though did you be like was this like the best sex you've ever had in the past

no no no no it wasn't it wasn't it was just it was one of those things where you just got to mark it off your bucket list you know yeah I suppose that is Charlie was asking me about my bucket list earlier and that's one thing I haven't knocked off that list, Charlie. Yeah, he didn't even, he had a trip to Europe.

Sex with choir director, high school choir director was not even in his realm of thought. But we're glad you put it on our radar here, Brady. So does your dad know that you shaboyanked your choir teacher as well? No. That's a secret that I'll be a secret that I take to the grave there, buddy. Try him back. Let's see if. Yeah, let's give him a call.

I think I found the angle I feel like I'm comfortable enough talking to him about. All right. Give me a second. no i can't no i'm not comfortable with this i'm playing how's that hard how's that hard yeah i okay he's just he's just pressing pound over and over again to threaten us with calling this is what are we doing i don't know what are we doing this is like um it's like a jerry springer episode is what this is turned into dude he actually picked up that time did he but yeah but it didn't let it didn't have it come through

it won't let us do a three-way like your dad you and oh my old you had to go there do you had to go there oh man okay so how much cheating is your sister got on her partner listen we're a family of them it's bad everyone's cheating huh everyone has man but she it's listen we're the love struck ones where we don't do it first. It's always out of a, you know, out of a, like a, you know, like you said, just out of, out of, you know, being mad, you know, being upset with being cheating on first, you know. The rebuttal, angry, cheating. Yeah, but still, I mean, obviously doesn't make it right, but how many times have you cheated?

Yeah. Twice. Twice. Twice. You've changed twice. Once with the choir director, who was the second one with? Jim teacher. Oh, it wasn't a gym teacher.

My gym teacher was a dude, unfortunately. So, um, your sister's, I know, a partner so I didn't know I know I know I can't go that way I'm sorry but no the other one just a tender hookup you know Tinder or tender yeah so you're in a relationship you just have a Tinder profile I did man listen I did at that point in time I was young dumb and you can finish the rest of that but so now so you were young and dumb what are you now I'm just dumb okay all right got it how old are you uh 29 29 years old has she how many times say she She cheated on you.

Listen, that's what's hard, man. I, you know, I've caught, I've caught it once. But, you know, I'm sure that there's been more. Usually, listen, once you do it once, it's, it makes it easier, you know? How'd you catch it? Listen, dude, she was, oh, dude, this is bad. This is a bad one. So we're at, we're at Disney, believe it or not.

We're at Disney. She hooked up with Goofy? No, she hooked up with Mickey Mouse. She didn't hook up with Mickey Mouse. But here's how it happened and went down. We're there for a family Christmas, right? my whole family flew down to Florida. I don't understand this family dynamic.

Everyone's just cheating on each other and we're like, let's all go to Disney World and pretend like nothing's going on. I know, hey, Disney's where things happen and makes you happy. You can't be upset there, you know? All right. So you bring your girlfriend down to a family trip to Disney for Christmas. Yep.

We're sitting at a, we're sitting having dinner at this nice steakhouse in Disney, mind you. You have all the freaking creatures running around. You have all the characters dressed up and stuff. ultimately I end up seeing her texting some dude and I'm like who is this guy and I didn't ask at the point in time but after dinner I go hey who's this guy named chase and she goes oh obviously the classic oh he's just a guy from work he's a friend that I know and you know he's asking me a question well then later on you start seeing smiley faces hearts and stuff like that and I'm like hmm what's going on here well and lo and behold I end up finding the dude and messaged him and that's what happened and he came out in front he came clean and told me they were in a full on relationship wow Did he know about you? Yeah.

She had actually bought a house with the guy. Are you serious? Yeah. No wonder you return the ring, dude. Oh, exactly, man. I mean, listen, I don't know. That's a crazy story, Charlie. He's still dating this girl.

That's what makes me even crazy, right? He's dating this girl. Yep. Have you seen a therapist? Listen, they don't want to see me after the year and a half of the stuff. I have a better chance of having you guys be my therapist at this point. Well, we're trying to give you advice. It doesn't sound like you're going to take it.

That's really impressive. Also, Chase, that's like, it's like she's cheating on you with like an Asher or something, you know? Yeah, like a, yeah, like a Kaistan or something like that. Yeah, yeah. Thad, you know. Oh, God. You said a fad. I think that's what this is going on right now with all this stuff.

You know, you have the internet. You have it's so easy to just, you know, find, find things, you know. All right, Charlie. I want you. So he's basically saying it's a fad to just cheat on your significant other. Okay. Not good, though. Yeah.

And, you know, if that's true, it's got to be pretty tough to go about your day. Yeah. And not cheat on your significant other. So for those of you, everyone who's fallen very. him to the fad just lay out how difficult it is to just not cheat on your significant other what would a day look like not cheating on your significant other well you know you you uh you go to work and then you go home and you call your significant other and you say i love you and you go to bed and you go to bed yeah yeah and so yeah that's probably all you need to figure out that's really not going to

help at all. I didn't it's you're saying it's it's something that's been going on since the dawn of time but now you're saying it's just easier with the dating apps is that where did she meet Chad on a

no they met at work they were they legitimately work together what is she wasn't a lie what did she do for work she worked at a marijuana grow facility oh my God what a keeper dude this is adding oh I know right I know right this is starting to

I was wondering what kind of woman would do this. And now that you said that, yes, that kind of woman, I get it now. You know, but there's no judging. There's no judging except for the judging that we've already. Yeah. At what point, though, can we judge? We can never judge. I think it's perfectly fine to judge.

So you're saying there's no line crossed to where you don't get to judge. I mean, I already judged and I said no judgment. So I guess there is judgment. But you know what? You know what? I think you just got to keep following your heart and and see where it leads you. You know, and it may lead you to borrowing another ring to pretend like you're going to propose or buying a ring and then taking it back in a childish.

Your heart has not led you astray yet. So just keep following it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I always say, you know, guys have two heads. Apparently my head up top doesn't work as well. So when was the last time you cheated? oh it's been i mean

what four years somewhere around there okay so back five years if it was 20 20 oh tinder came after the choir teacher yeah like a couple weeks after that it was a little i was on a generational run there for a second yeah a little spree you know but wow i mean it's right around when i found out about the whole cheating thing for her so i just you know got to get

unfortunately got to get a little bit of get back i mean yeah that's just the way you were raised you know hey monkey see monkey do right i guess man i guess that's exciting well uh we're all real happy for you uh i would like at a different day we should try and get your dad on this thing do you think your dad would be honest with us oh yeah he would he's yeah 100% he would i don't know how he would take the whole telling about the open relationship we would just we would probably ask him so this is how i would would do it. I would just ask him if he was, it's, oh, so you're in an open relationship and then

he may go, oh, what's that or no, you know, then when that's your gateway in, you're not going to be like, hey, bucko, sounds like you need to be in an open relationship. Because dads are a lot like deer, you know, you got to approach them very softly. You have to be quiet. They spook real easily. Yeah, you got easier way in. You got to lure them in. Yeah. And then take your shot. and tell it's too late for them, you know? I don't know if your dad's that way. You try and convince him of anything. You come in too hot.

He's out. He's done. He's gone. But we'd be best, though, is he should just take some lessons from his sister. You know, his sister. Yeah,

I know, this is a therapy session at this point, right, guys? What about his sister? Oh, his sister, my aunt, she and her husband have been, I don't know if you consider it what swinging or just open.

I consider swingers. I'll put it that way. So he should just, he should be used to it by now or being around those types of people. So. So, okay. So you know the swinging lifestyle then. The family's familiar with it. Yeah, family's familiar with it.

Family's familiar with it. Well, what about you? Would you be a swinger? Nah, I'm, I'm possessive. You're possessive. He's got a small weiner, self-conscious about it. I get it. Listen, I don't want to.

Listen, I'm, the same reason why I wouldn't. be open to it. Exactly. You know, it's a, it's a little scared thing, you know, a little timid. Yeah. Well, I think, Charlie, we can confidently answer the first question we asked. Are they going, is he going to heaven or hell? I think his whole family's going to hell.

I think they have a special room for us. Yeah, you guys have a VIP booth in hell. Just lined up with choir teachers ready to roll. What does the choir sing in hell?

Oh, what would you guys think the choir does sing in hell? I don't know. I'm not that quick. I joke, you guys, there's plenty of time for you guys to repent. He's already repented, you know? He's gone. He's gone. He's gone four or five years without cheating on his fiancé slash girlfriend.

Do you think you're going to propose again here soon? you know that's the big question i don't i don't know man i you know part of me once too but part of me is like uh you know just like you guys were saying earlier is the time you know is is the rope at the end you know or you know should i just jump ship now or should i actually buckle in or take it for another ride but that's that's where my head is at this point so and i don't know but yeah the car is total is what you're looking at you at this point it's probably in the junk car getting scrapped let's be let's be real it's already like compacted into a cube

by the way the song I thought about it for a second burn baby burn probably oh there you go there you go yeah yeah I think that you should let it burn feeling a thing what's your Charlie

what's the older you say thinking highway to hell yeah there you go that actually would be a great with the car analogy here you know oh 100% that's the that's the better

I don't think you're going down I think you're doing good you guys we're all just trying to find our way through this crazy ball of gas that we live on you know what I'm saying so yeah just just keep on doing you put one technically earth is a rock and Jupiter's gas yeah but there's gas here too yeah there is yeah so gas and rock yeah but um I'd be I'd ask her if she's cheating on you still I would just Oh, yeah. I mean, he's like, oh, for sure. He sounded like that's where he's going. Oh, she for sure, yes. Well, at this point, dude, and so it's almost like we, I mean, I was, I don't want to have an open relationship, but it's almost like, hell, at this point, you know, probably already is it.

Let's be honest at that, you know. You think she's cheating on you right now. Oh, probably. I mean, listen, she's in Florida. I'm in Michigan. I mean, I'm in Florida. She's in Michigan. Are you guys even together, dude?

On paper. We'll put it that way. On paper. her like, do you talk to her every day? Yeah, yeah. Do you talk to around like 10 o'clock or like 8 o'clock when she's like, oh, I got to go to bed early? Yeah, does she fall asleep early a lot? No.

I'm the one that falls asleep early. Okay. Yeah, no, she gets the luxury of being a stay-at-home girlfriend. So you're paying for her shit, too? Not anymore. Was there for a while? Oh, my God. So she got, she took his money.

and bought a house with another guy. My money. Wait, she bought a house with the other guy with your money? I wouldn't say, like, it's not that she had my bank account or anything like that, but listen,

I would, you know, I would help her out with certain things. And, you know, ultimately I think, you say, you're in denial.

I think she bought a house with another guy with your money. Oh, yeah, I mean, yeah, she probably did. How?

In what world? Does this make sense for you to still be dating this girl it doesn't miles it doesn't there's we can get all of the mathematicians Neil degrassy

fucking Stephen Hawking working on this problem Albert Einstein's and the math just won't add up what do you do for work I run an insurance agency you run an insurance agency

so you talk about yeah you mean you're you're doing risk versus reward all day long. You are evaluating assets all day long. And he likes to leave work at work. He doesn't want that to bleed into his home life. He doesn't want to just make his whole life about, you know, totaled cars.

When did she buy the home with the guy? How many years ago was that? So she, I think it was 2022 or 23. and what's funny is I didn't find it but one of my buddies you know I told one of my really good friends I told him about what was going on so he did a little bit of like a search

and found out that she bought a house and like I said I think it was 2022 or 23 and in June of this year she actually sold it and she still at this point does not know that I know it's so fucked up so you guys have a real open lines of communication

in this. Horrible. You know? Yeah. Yeah. This is, you should bring that up and just see what happens.

Yeah. Hey, I've tried to tip to around it a couple times before, but she just won't come out and say it, you know? Yeah, I can't imagine why.

You guys are pretty open with each other. You don't lie or cheat or listen, it sounds like it perfectly fine, you know, open communication relationship at this point, doesn't it? You got to get out of this thing,

dude. I know, I know, I know It's just hard sometimes, you know We've been together so long It's like the I don't think you're together To be honest It's really easy actually

Your scenario is the best You live in Florida and she lives Michigan All you have to do is just not text her And then you're good And there's no moving out There's no bumping into her family members At the grocery store You're just done

Well it sucks that you know i wish you yes and no so you know i have like what six or seven of her family numbers that are actually my clients oh that's the hard part too it's like you know the risk first reward you you know you don't that then there's you know residual income out the door well then you are not a very good insurance agent if six clients is going to bury you oh i know it's not going to bury me it's just you know that's just another excuse how much money have you given her over the years oh charlie i don't oh oh and That means it's a lot.

Yes. That means it's a lot. So are you just flat out like saying like giving, like, hey, here's, here's a thousand bucks or are you saying like in one total dollar amount? It's the easiest question. Oh, I get well, I mean, realistically, probably a couple hundred. She paid for that house in cash with your money. Dude. A couple hundred grand.

And you're worried about losing six clients over this girl? Listen, hey, I like to have clients. Men, like to have money coming in still. But it's also six clients isn't anything. But it's the simple fact of, you know, they're going to call me. You're basically spending like 50 grand a year on this woman. I would not be surprised. I bet you if I totaled it up.

You could hire, you could, you could hire like a full-time person to do your job for 50 grand. And you're still chilling without her. Okay. Oh, I know. Let me ask you this. You know, you don't have to worry about those six clients if you just stop paying or $50,000. I don't have to worry. It's just a simple fact they're going to keep calling me.

That's the issue, man. You know, it's not the money outside of it. It's more of the- Why don't you just do what the playbook. It just don't talk about it when they call you. You don't have to go like, hey, yeah, I cheated on your niece and she cheated on me. So what do you need help with in your insurance today? You could just go.

Hello, what can I help you with today? It's as simple as that. I mean, I know, man, but they're the, they're the type of people that will keep talking and talking and eventually something's going to come out. But you guys are right, though. I mean, you guys are definitely right. Okay. What if you stopped paying her today? You stopped giving her money.

Do you think she would continue to be with you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Listen, I don't know. Maybe, Charlie, you know, that's a great question. Not a chance. Okay. Don't break up with her.

not a chance. Don't break up with her. Just stop giving her money starting today and call us back when the relationship's over. All right? So it'll be tomorrow. Yeah, it might be. Yeah. Give us a call back tomorrow. How often, like, do you, did she just ask you for money and you send it? Is it a, no, no, it's more. No, it's more just like, you know, like, so when we live together and everything that obviously didn't have pay for anything. And then, you know, here and there, just out of me being a nice person, I feel like I send her some money. you know and that's just guilt for cheating on her that you're just trying to buy back yeah you're probably right you're probably right miles i mean you realize you're not in a

relationship she is just your sugar baby and you are her sugar daddy it's well i know man you know hey when you say it like that when you say it like that hurts so it sings a little bit more well well no try try to just not give her money just see all long it lasts after that. Yeah, that's a good. That's actually a good middle ground. Yeah. Yeah. Because we've been tied to him for how long and it's still just the longer we talk, the more layers we get and none of them are pointing in the right direction. It's just not pointing him to heaven. I can tell you that much. I am. I mean, I think a lot of this honestly is pointing them back there. He's, he's trying to try and in some ways. Yeah, that's true. He's trying to

buy his way into heaven with giving her money. Indulgences is what we call that. Well, So Charlie and Miles was looking at just in 2024, one month that I have pulled up here, 6,000. Yeah, that's like 6,000 more than you should have sent her. One month in 2024? Yeah, that was in February. Oh, my God. Okay. Yeah.

I mean, you could be spending that money on OnlyFans, dude, to be having a great time. I know, but only. You'd be having a way better time. I know, I know it's a guilt probably You could go to the strip club and be a king Wow

Yeah, pretty sad right No You know that if you had taken that 200 grand And invested in the S&P 500 In seven years It could have been 400 grand And another seven years after that

It could have been 800 grand Do you know? Yeah, man Yeah, trust me We're not just talking about Some petty cash laying around we're talking about your future yeah do you want to retire or do you not want to retire you need if you stay with this gal you won't be able to retire that's where that's where it's leading i feel

like that's where it's leading you know you work you work hard you know before i don't say before i was with it because you know i started working like right around the same time that she and i got together so you know you go from not making anything to making good money and then luckily i was a little bit smart with money still to where I do have investments like you said with SMB 500, 401Ks, all that type of stuff but think about having that 200K putting in Bitcoin, you know.

Just I can't get through to him. All right. It's a matter what angle I go at this. It's okay. I think we have a game plan. Brady, you're just going to stop giving her money. You're going to be tempted to do it. You're going to think, oh, this will feel

good for me right now. Only in the short term, in the long term, just keep the money and see how it changes the dynamic of the relationship. Yeah, it's kind of, I imagine the money piece is the one piece on the jenga that if you pulling out, the whole thing will tumble down. We'll see, we'll see. Hey, it could be. This is a good hypothesis, Charlie.

We're going to run a experiment here, all right? A statistical experiment and you get to use your, you get to take your work home with you for a little bit. Just mark the day. No more work like balance. No more work-life balance, I see. Well, just see how it goes. See how it goes.

This is wild, man. Hey, good for you. It's all fun, though. There's no, I mean, she's not taking half your income, you know, which is what would be if you got married and did a divorce. Yeah. That's exactly. Listen, that's also going back to the question, are you going to propose to

assume that's also in the back of the head there too? Uh-uh. You got to do this before you get married. Yeah, exactly. I know. If you propose to her again, I'll drive down. of Florida and punch you the face. Oh, come on, Miles.

I'll take the weekend off. I'll leave my family at home and I'll drive down there and I'll personally sock you in the schnaz. That almost be worth him proposing, to be honest. I'll buy the ring, actually. Let's go get it, Charlie.

Anne is like, wait, what are you doing this weekend? Don't worry about it, man. I'm like, I've got a work thing. She thinks I'm cheating on her. But really, I'm just going to punch this guy in the face. Oh, well, you know, hey, listen, I don't, I don't think that it's going to work out in the long term. I'm just a wishful thinker and an optimist, but, you know, really, it's probably doomed. Let's be, let's be straight there.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. We got a plan. We're stopping payments today. Are you with it? I feel a little bit like Dave Ramsey, right? Is this, is this the high that Dave Ramsey gets?

Yeah. helps people financially. Yeah, I mean, kind of, you know, and then we get the call. I want you to stop giving her those payments, all right? What we need to do is we need to build up a security fund because life's going to come at you fast. Want you to take those credit cards that she's got and I want you to cut them up. Okay.

And then after a few months, you got yourself enough to get by. Then we're going to start investing that. Oh, gosh. Oh, gosh. Well, Dave, that's very good advice. I will, I will stop the payment or, you know, sending money to her whenever I feel like it. That's for sure. I'm 100% true. Luckily, she doesn't have any of my cards, which is great. So that is a, that is a positive. When was the last time you sent her money? What was the last time you sent her money? Oh, probably a week. We can, somewhere right around a week. How much? How much? Oh, give me a second. I'll tell you. Is he standing on overpass?

No, I just, listen, I just ran my last appointment. I'm getting ready. I'm sitting outside of a circle. Okay. Can't talk and drive, you know? Oh, yeah. We appreciate that. Oh, so, okay.

So it was. It was only, it was only 35 bucks. Nothing crazy, nothing big. Okay. So she can get some Chipotle. I want you to just cut her off. I want you to cut her off. She can pay for her own Chipotle.

Oh, I know. Like I said, guys, I just disconnect your bank account from your Venmo. Just start there. Oh, God. See that? listen yeah i guess i will apple pay it's more of the apple pay for me

just disconnect at all yeah oh gosh well here we go it's it's off now all right good good we're on again is this how Dave Ramsey yeah yeah I feel really good

you look around you look around it's 20 miles you got text Ann brady good luck man. Good luck. We are here. We're rooting for you. All right. And if you need, you need to call

and let us know how it's going, you just, or if you're in a moment of weakness. Right when I'm getting ready to hit send, I need to give, have a shout out of our direct line, you know. Yes. Guys, I'm about to spoil my, about to spoil this, about to ruin everything I worked for. Just remember where you're making it, but that's exactly what you should do. Yeah. I know I should. Listen, I know I should. I know. I know. But like I said, I'm pretty, I can be pretty dumb sometimes, but no, I should listen to you guys.

You need, Brady, you need a little bolt of self-confidence right now, all right? So you don't need this in your, what you got to remember is you have a great job, dude. You have a good enough job that you've blown $200,000 on a girl who cheated on you with a guy named Chase. Let's look at all right. And you got game. You were able to buy one engagement. ring yeah and you also had sexual intercourse with your choir director and she was hot okay and yeah your dad did that too but that's neither here nor there all right so you got game all right don't let anyone

tell you you don't just self-confidence look yourself in the mirror and say oh ho lay loo maybe not that one but something that's if you get to heaven but whatever you guys sang in choir what was your main choir song oh my i mean the most thing that i remember is just the christmas stuff dude it's like ingrained into the my head sing it sing it no no miles i mean sing it brady sing it pick a song pick a pick a christmas song let's go jingle jingle bells oh oh gosh jingle bell jingle bell jingle bell jingle bell rock oh so next time you're going to send money i want you to start singing jingle bells in the mirror just wherever you are you could be at a

fucking Walmart you got to start singing jingle bells and that'll be your mental cue to not press send on sending her money and I bet you I bet you Barry as you're singing jingle bells there's going to be another gal around there that hears you singing here's that little voice

of an angel you got there and you're going to start meeting people and they're going to be like oh he's rich too and he's he has self-control that he doesn't just send money to random people you know incredible sign me up yeah i don't even care what he's packing you know so you are on the edge of greatness yes you're on you're always on the edge of greatness let's push it over the edge brady huh yeah well again thank you guys for the uh for the little nudge there and the you know the little backing

to help me uh you know really i you guys are totally right first off i i'm just i'm confused but it'll be uh it'll be uh it'll be something that you know having you guys talk oh having you guys talking about it and work you know walking me through it just gives me that confidence a little bit to actually understand that it's not a the situation's fudged obviously and yeah and uh not going to help you get into heaven too late no i'm just kidding no brady you were confused you're not confused anymore. Now you see the light. Thank you guys for that. I appreciate it so much. Just, yeah, there's a, there's, there's some Florida gal just waiting for you.

Yeah. There's more pretty girls than one. There's more. Learn that song. There's more pretty girls than one. I'll have to learn that and they come back on and sing it to you guys. All right. Sounds good, Brady. We're, we're hoping for you. All right. I hope so. I appreciate it, guys. You guys have a great day. And like I said, just, you know, keep to keep everything up. I love to listen to you guys. First off, I appreciate you guys. Let me come on and talk for a little bit. Hey, man. We appreciate you. You've made quite an episode for us. All right. Thank you guys. All right. See you. Wow. Wow. I mean, I think the hell conversation. That's a good. I'm addicted to that. I'm addicted to that. I'm addicted to that now. I don't think we would have gotten that up.

What did he even call in for? Oh, talk about the choir. I mean, which was like the third most interesting thing in that whole call. Fifth, maybe like top seven. Yeah. Jeez. Well, good, good. I feel like we actually got through to him.

I think that we saved his life today. Someone saving my life tonight. Yeah. How to save a life. Oh, I was thinking. Someone saving my life. I was not in choir. Actually, I was another story.

I think I said this on the podcast for, but I tried to join choir so I'd go on the choir trip. And the teacher told me I had to give lessons before she would let me join the choir. Oh, really? Bummer. I didn't need lessons. I know. I mean, I did need lessons, but they didn't make me take them.

I know. Some fucking bullshit. That is bullshit, dude. I'm sorry to hear that. You have a nice voice. She said she was doing it so that, like, like not anyone could just join for the choir tour which is why I was joining. That's why you were doing it.

Her filters weren't great. Where was the choir trip that was so great? They would go to like New York. They would go to Washington, D.C. They would. Dude, that's sick. But like what was also cool is that half of the school was in choir, which is funny that I couldn't get in. Admitance rate was 50% and I couldn't get in.

but then there was kind of the week at school without all the without half of the school was also kind of fun oh pretty chill yeah yeah because you can't do anything so you guys just get to watch movies and stuff yeah fucking grinch it's always around christmas time too yeah home alone too hell yeah dude I think a home alone one die hard uh fucking uh fucking Santa Claus what's What's the Arnold Schwarzenegger one? Jingle all the way.

Jingle all the way. Just all the classics. Super classics. Did you say the Grinch? Yeah. Christmas with the Craigs. Christmas with the, yeah. Four Christmases.

Nightmare before Christmas. Yeah. That's it. Airbud Christmas edition. Was there an airbud Christmas? We should watch it if it was. Well, should we take another call or Miles? Let's do it.

Hey, guys. Jordan 30 from Texas. I didn't know y'all guys' opinion on men wearing flip flops and blue jeans. Personally, thanks to dumbest shit in the world. Thank you guys. Have a great day and tip your bartender.

Well, one, thank you for elaborating on you why you think that they suck. Yeah, it's the dumbest shit he's ever seen. The question first off the bat, Charlie, have you worn flip fluff with blue jeans? Of course I have. Of course I have. It was very popular in the 2000.

yeah it's um it was i mean early 2000s somewhere around there is that what you're thinking the flip flop blue jean days it was like it was right when uh the reef flip flops with the bottle opener on the bottom were popular yeah yeah yeah yeah i remember having older cousins that would come to family functions at the lake with those flip flops and they thought they were the hottest shit well they were man and then my uncle's minds were blown when he's like wait there's a there's a bottle opener and your flip-flop. Also, flip-lop might be the worst shoe to put a bottle open around. It's just the most inconvenient thing. Yeah, just no leverage you get there. Yeah, I think it's not an ideal situation stylistically. I'm not sure what part of the world

you really, I think the Midwest is probably where that comes the most because you got this kind of like you're not wearing shorts with the flip-flops. You know, you're going jeans. So what would the situation be? Honestly, the times I've done it the most, I can't find my shoes. So I would do the flip-flops. Yeah. That'd be about it. But, yeah, I would like, for me, it was like a, if I'm on like a tropical vacation or like somewhere warm. But you're going out to dinner. Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But like, you're not going to pack dress shoes to go to this thing. Right. You know, so you just wear flip-flops with jeans and a button up. Yeah. Yeah. And it goes, you know, I. I mean, yeah, I try to avoid it. I don't think it's like a fatal thing for your social, you know.

I mean, down there in Texas, it sounds like it. You know, that's a guy who's wearing cowboy boots. You can tell. You can tell. Yeah. Yeah. You know what? I have a hard time with.

I have a hard time with, you know, seeing people wearing all the really baggy stuff. I'm going to sound like an old man here, you know. But I'm old enough to see the trends. And I know that's just going to. to be stupid in five years. We've been down this road. We've been down there. Yeah, I've looked at pictures of me wearing the stuff that's popular right now being like, I already know I'm just going to be ahead of the fashion curb at this point. You could have also kept it all and made a pretty penny by selling it. I kept some of it and I still wear it. Now's the time to sell. Now is the time

to sell. Oh, you still wear it? Yeah. I still have a pair of jeans from bag 10. Yeah. They were their work jeans now. You know, they got a bunch of paint and stuff on them, which, which honestly, that's fashionable, too, I guess. Yeah. I mean... What's worse than flip flops with jeans? I think flip flops and jeans is pretty good, like, check repellent. Is it?

I didn't know the gal. So the fella's not a fan of it? The gals aren't fans of it? Yeah, it's like, uh, this is kind of funny observation. Super, uh, blue collar farm guys, whatever. and chicks are kind of the same. Oh, okay. That's, yeah, okay, got it.

Because chicks think that, like, crocs and flip-flops with jeans are tacky and you. And super, like, I work on a ranch guys also think that that's disgusting. Yeah, of like, that's the most impractical thing. One thinks it's impractical, the other thinks it's ugly. Yep. Yeah. And sometimes it, that's an interesting, uh, Venn diagram of opinions there.

Yeah. Guys who work cowboys and chicks. And in the middle is flip flops and jeans, hating flip flops and jeans. And crocs. Yeah. Yeah. A shout out to all the women out there that like crocs.

Let's go. Sport mode. Hey guys, listen, let us know what your pet peeves are stylistically in the comments below. Do we do that on podcasts? Yeah, we can, can we do a poll? maybe, too. Jared's like, I don't fucking know. Just something about, are we in on flip

pops and jeans or not? And are they going to make a comeback? Everything makes a comeback, man. It's like, you know, razor scooters are, you know, I see one right over there. The non-battery operated ones. Those will make a comeback, I think. You know, people start doing tricks again on scooters and not just whipping shitties on them you know don't you see the scooters going through your downtown with just the big old black streaks you know because people are whipping shitties but i feel like uh you know the little little little wheel scooters are going to come back yeah and people are going to ride them with flip flops and their jeans anyways uh well miles this was a fun episode so it's fun episode i mean we went to places i didn't think we'd go sometimes you get an

onion collar and that's what we had today yeah And you just pull back. Is that why your breast stinks? Does my breast smell? Oh, that was an onion joke. It does also smell. I'm going to go get some gum, you guys, and make sure you tip your bartender.

We'll see you the next one. Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now. Toodoo.