Bellied Up - The Most Important Resource in the Galaxy #197
Episode Date: April 23, 2026We're at Lyon's Pub in Minneapolis, MN. We chat about Charlie's birthday, Elvis impersonators, and what our most valuable resource on earth is. Then we chat with Tyler, who tells us about ...the prison journal he found. Get $10 Off at BRUNT with code belliedup at https:// www.bruntworkwear.com/belliedup #Bruntpod #adnote: Since bad weather was on the way, we had to squeeze five episodes into two days, sorry for the limited number of calls. We'll be recording again in early May so be sure to leave us a voicemail 218-303-5095
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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Bellied Up Podcast.
We're bellied up here at the Lions Pub here in Minneapolis, Charlie.
How you doing?
Good, Miles.
It's a fantastic pub.
I took the Skyway here, believe it or not.
You ever taken the Minneapolis skyway?
Did I walk outside?
Didn't even walk.
I haven't stepped outside today, Miles, and it's almost 1130.
Isn't that crazy?
I thought you were a nature guy.
You don't want to get the nice cool breeze on your face?
I'm a nature guy, but I had every.
one telling me about the skyway they got to try it i got to try it out how was the skyway um it was
nice honestly i could see it being nicer for like a really cold blustery day and because i'm a
boozy bish i don't even know what temperature it is outside i didn't even look okay because i took the
skyway although i got to leave before the skyway closes because well i guess i brought a jacket just
in case yeah you'll be fine yeah it's you a ride i got some
food in the skyway. That was the incentivizing thing is there was food halfway between here and there.
My buddy had told me about it. A hot dog stand or? It was a sandwich shop. I forget the name. But my buddy said,
oh, you got to try this sandwich shop. And I says, okay, where is he? He says, well, you're here.
Just take the skyway. And I was like, oh, yeah, I've always heard of this skyway, but never really
took it seriously. So I did it. All right. So folks, this is the first ever, uh, downtown Minneapolis
Skyway review.
Charlie, let's hear it.
Okay.
The part I like the most is when you bring the outside inside.
They got this one thing where they got big like open sky windows and then trees.
You know, I'd like to see more trees.
Also indoor trees.
I'd like some more indoor trees.
I'd like the whole skyway to be like a rainforest cafe.
But I want real living plants.
I want there to be mold issues throughout the whole skyway.
Okay.
So very humid skyway.
I would love that.
Which could be good in the wintertime.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, it feels like you're in, you know, in Milwaukee, we have the domes, which is like, you know,
they basically do these tropical environments in these old, like, glass domes.
And they got really interesting birds flying around.
Like a greenhouse.
Yeah.
It's a greenhouse.
Yeah.
Why are you laughing at me?
Why didn't you just say green house?
Instead, you described what a greenhouse is.
But it's the actual, it recreates the climate of these places.
So there's an arid desert climate.
There's a tropical rainforest climate.
And sometimes they switch out the climates.
And in high school, I was part of the choir team.
And we sang a song and me and my buddy were late because we may have had some pre-school ritual going on.
And I had, my teacher was so upset because I did not have.
have a bow tie and I left my bow tie in my locker and she was pissed and then I had to run to the
bow tie and then run back to the bus and I was oh no she was just mad we were late and I said my
bow tie was in my pocket and then I had to stand in the back of the baritone so she didn't realize
I didn't have a bow tie I think she realized she never brought it up you did a choir concert at one of
these greenhouses yeah well it's called the domes though miles okay anyway what else is going
miles. So like you want
the skyway. Oh yeah,
we're talking about the skyway. Rainforest
Cafe. I want rainforest cafe.
Do you want to like pump in bird noises and stuff too?
I want real bird noise. I want real birds
flying through that sucker. You know,
rescue birds. We don't need to kidnap
birds for the skyway, but you get some
birds that were, you know. Well, I think
what you do is just leave the doors open during the summer
and then whatever birds just make a living
in there. That's true. If they decide,
you know, I'm all about bird choice
miles.
I know that about you actually.
You're pretty well known for bird choice.
Some birds, they just want to be outdoor birds.
Other birds choose to be an indoor, outdoor experience.
But we need a little bird holes there because we can't go just leaving the doors open.
Think about the heating bill, you know.
Yeah.
It's going to be excessive.
We'll do bird holes.
Birdholes.
Yeah.
So review.
Review.
I'm going to give it.
In terms of.
I'm going to, it's got a lot of potential.
It's got a lot of, I'm giving a seven out of ten.
10 out of 10 for Skyways have been in.
10 out of 10 hands down.
And how many Skyways have you been in?
One other one.
It was at the hospital when I broke my hand.
So I wasn't really in the right mood to rate it, but this was a far superior.
Okay.
So relatively it's 10 out of 10.
10 out of 10.
In terms of what you imagine all Skyways are and what they could be, it's a 7 out of 10?
It's just seven out of ten because we really got to just expand.
Yeah, leave for them.
Yeah, I want some Jaguars walking around, you know, toothless ones.
Like if they got into a fight and they lost their teeth, rescued Jaguars that aren't going to hurt you.
But I don't want them on a chain because I don't.
I just don't know if that type of Jaguar exists.
Probably not.
Probably not.
It's just hypothetical.
If you get a Jaguar that just enjoys being there, it'd be cool to be close to a Jaguar.
That would.
Or maybe just like a stuff.
What was the hospital skyway?
What did you rate that?
It was pretty subpar if I'm being on.
It was just going from the parking garage to the to the hospital.
That's the only other skyway you've ever been.
I'm sure I've been in other Skyways miles,
but nothing's coming to the dome right now in my 38 years of existence.
Oh yeah.
And Charlie.
What?
Happy birthday.
It's your birthday week.
It's not my birthday yet.
It's not my birthday.
No, I'm 38.
I am 38, 30 great.
Oh, wait, so you were 39 this year?
Yeah.
I thought you were 37.
No, I am 30.
What year were you born?
Let's, let's, we need to.
You want to double check my math?
Yeah.
2000 or 19,
1987 miles.
You're from the 1900s.
I'm from the 1980.
I'm from 18.
I'm from the 1980s.
So you graduated high school in 2005?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, I was in,
elementary school.
I was in fifth grade.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that's really freaking cool, you guys.
I don't give a shit.
Okay, so I'm smarter than both of you.
So happy birthday, Charlie.
You're 39 this week.
35, miles.
30 fine.
So we got to do something big on the podcast next year for your 40th.
That's true.
We should do something big.
We could go to...
Vegas.
We can go to Vegas.
Oh, that's not a bad idea.
We could podcast in Vegas for your birthday.
Dude, I...
See how much money I lose at the old slots out there.
That could be good.
You know, Miles, I don't know.
I'm not one to celebrate a birthday anymore, you know?
Well, I feel like I, yeah, it's like I feel like, and maybe you don't feel this way, but like once you hit like your mid 20s, once you're mid 20s, I feel like you just don't need to celebrate your birthday anymore.
Honestly, once you hit like 22, I feel like you don't need to celebrate your birthday anymore.
I feel like you don't need to celebrate your birthday anymore.
Yeah, because, well, 25 is kind of a big one.
That's quarter of life.
You could get that 30 is kind of like a, it's like, all right.
Yeah, maybe it's everything in between.
If it ends in a zero, you can celebrate it.
Right.
That's pretty much it.
But 39, it's, you know what I'm doing?
I'm doing a show the day before in Sacramento, I think.
Hey, you guys want to come celebrate my birthday?
See you in Sacramento.
I think it's Sacramento.
Tickets at Charlie Barron's.com.
But then the next day is my birthday.
So I have a choice, Miles.
Do I either fly home from the West Coast, which means I'm already losing.
It means I'm losing hours on my birthday.
That's true.
You know, do I want to be a guy who loses hours on his birthday or spends his birthday
alone in a cabin somewhere?
But here's the thing.
What?
You're 39.
It doesn't fucking matter.
That's what I was saying.
Yeah, yeah.
I was telling him Rand to this.
Why would you be worried about it?
about losing hours on your birthday. It doesn't matter. Well, or doesn't matter to you. I think we're
finding out whether or not something matters to you. Well, I don't know. I mean, it's not that my
birthday matters to me, but it's not like I'm trying to actively subtract hours from the one day
a year that people have to be nice to me, you know? Yeah, but it just doesn't matter, does it?
I guess it doesn't matter, but it's still like, you know, like you matter. Like, does that? But your
birthday just kind of doesn't matter. Thanks. Yeah, but it's like, does that beer matter?
I mean, in the grand scheme of the entire universe, no. Right, but I'm not just going to jump out.
The entire universe, you and I don't matter either. I suppose. Well, then nothing matters, Miles,
and I got a decision to make. I don't know what I'm going to do. Should I fly home or should I just go
find a cabin in the woods or go hike something at Yosemite or something? Yeah, have you been to
Sacramento before? I've never been.
I did. I was there for an Elvis impersonator
competition back in the day.
No, you weren't. No, you weren't.
Yeah, I was. What do you mean
you were there for it?
You were impersonating
Elvis? No, I was interviewing the
Elvis's. Okay. Haven't I brought
this up on this bag? You never brought this up.
Let's hear the story of how you ended up
in Sacramento interviewing fake
Elvis's. Me and my buddy, Jed
man. This was a side
gig. Chad and
I just, I, I assumed it was because I don't think interviewing Elvis's at a lookalike competition is a main gig.
No, I think my buddy John, he had this idea.
John had this idea of Elvis impersonator competitions.
What you get is it's a convention.
And all these Elvis impersonators from all different generations of Elvis's life, they get together.
And these guys not only recreate the voice of Elvis and recreate the style, but they are to the T to the generation.
They also recreate the plastic surgery, the drug use of the era, the infidelity, and you literally and the the dietaryness.
So whatever Elvis was doing at that time in his life, these guys recreate that.
So they're just all like doing Coke in the bathroom?
Yeah.
I mean, Coke and banana sandwiches, you know,
Coke and peanut butter banana samis.
With bacon.
With bacon.
Did he have those on there too?
I mean,
but these guys really,
they take it to the next level,
but they do plastic surgery to look like him.
And they spend,
it's not even prostate.
Like,
they're like actually getting surgeries.
Yes.
And they're spending so much money on the clothing.
Because they're getting like actual.
some of them are some of them are actually buying like clothes from those designers or if they can find
whatever they can get to the closest thing they're doing it no not all of them of course but we talked
so gotta find those interviews we talked to some of those so so why did you do this well i was a little
pa i was a little coffee grabber i was a little set up the camera boy set up the lights so you and your
buddy was just the hump so what did you you posted it to the internet i don't know what he did
with it. He was trying to sell it as a show.
This was back before the internet was really.
You guys like where we were shooting a pilot.
A pilot. Yeah. Pilot. Yeah.
And I was, yeah. And the show was going to weird conventions and interviewing people or just Elvis-based
show. I think it might have been what would be a better show is going to, because I don't know
how long you can let an Elvis. But think about it. If you did a whole series on these conventions,
that could be good. But also now that I think about it, Elvis has a big enough fan base that
the Elvis impersonator convention could be a legit thing.
Like if you really love Elvis and you love the personalities of these guys,
they said some wild stuff, man.
I couldn't believe.
You never believe the things people say on camera until they're on camera.
I mean, this podcast is proof of that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Charlie, did you feel like you're in a trap and you couldn't walk out?
I don't know.
That's impersonator convention.
Yeah, I did.
I did.
And it was just too much, baby, you know.
but, you know, I'll say this, guys.
I'll say this.
Wise men say that only fools run in, okay?
But I just cannot help falling in love.
For those of you just listening, I just tweaked Miles's peck.
He gave me a little...
I surprised him.
I surprised him with it.
Actually, you cropped me.
I think you will be hearing from my lawyer.
Oh, yeah.
Well, your lawyer is probably my lawyer.
1-855, Nicolet.
Nicolay.
Have you had your boob growled by your best buddy at the bar?
Get over it.
Fear the beard.
So are you on, so you, with the birthday thing, though, you're on board with that?
Just like, hey, just, just hand the ball of the ref and go back to the huddle.
just treat your birthday like any other day.
I suppose, but I'm also one of the most beautiful parts of the country.
Maybe I jet out there and do a couple days of solitude in the redwoods, bro.
You know, maybe I just get lost in the woods.
You know, that's maybe a good way to describe it.
I feel like after 25, because like before 25, you want to go out with your buddies and celebrate and stuff.
But after 25, it should your birthday should be about you doing whatever you want.
Yeah.
You know?
And like there might be guys out there that I want to go to the bar and celebrate my birthday.
But I would say most guys, they just want to like go do something by themselves.
Yeah.
And especially as like having a kid now, love my kid.
But like on my birthday, it would be awesome to just be like, just go do whatever I want.
Because right now we just do whatever my kid wants to do.
Right.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No, I mean.
So if you want to go, you know, whisper to the Redwoods, you should.
Right.
Because, you know, think about this.
The other thing is like, have you tried flying these days?
It's a freaking nightmare.
Yeah.
And let's say that the flight gets delayed.
I don't even make it home.
So it's like, you know, you got a bird in the sky or a bird in the bush miles.
And it's a lot easier to shoot one in the bush.
You know what I mean?
That's just not the right phrase.
It's also illegal.
Okay?
Don't go ground swapping.
You might shoot your dog, you idiot.
So is it technically illegal to shoot a bird on the ground or is it just frowned upon?
It should be.
I feel like it should be too, but...
Well, I think
a peasant is different than
it's not illegal.
Also, what a privileged spot
we are in society to where we're like...
We must let the birds fly.
Oh, shit.
We must let the birds fly
before we assassinate the miles.
Like, we gotta give them a chance.
Yeah, I really don't know the etiquette on that.
I usually don't shoot them on the ground.
But I also...
We definitely shouldn't.
Don't shoot them really, period,
because I miss like all the time.
But that's okay.
I like to go.
I like to walk around.
It's nice.
So what do you think you're going to do?
I feel bad.
I feel like you're leaning towards staying in Sacramento for your birthday.
I mean,
I think you should.
Yeah.
I mean, look,
I'm not saying downtown,
I would get out there to,
you know,
I would get out away from like,
that's also like tech central, you know,
so that's,
Um, that's kind of, uh, it's kind of like, you know, you want to get out into the woods.
You got to get out of Sacramento, I think, you know, but I, yeah, that's also a drive.
I'll look into it.
The short answer is, Miles, I've done zero research on it.
What'd you do for your birthday?
Um, I spent some time in my garage.
And we were, I think we were leaving to.
go on vacation the day after, day after that.
And so I think I was just like helping end pack stuff.
What'd you do in the garage?
Went out to brunch with my family too.
Okay.
Yeah.
All right.
That's sweet.
What'd do in the garage?
I finally cleaned up my garage after moving in four years ago.
And so I got shelving up.
I got a workbench finally.
Oh, my God.
It's a whole new world in there.
It's just great.
Dude, shit's been on the floor.
I thought that was how you designed it, honestly.
You'd think.
So now it's all organized, me and, you know, once I finally got it to where it's like, now I want to hang out in there, you know?
Yeah.
I did you get home from work.
We eat dinner.
And then I tell my kid, I'm like, hey, you want to go in the garage?
And he goes, yeah.
Nice.
But then we're just hanging out in the garage doing stuff.
He loves the flashlight.
Sick.
Yeah.
But now my wife, though.
my wife is a little bit like
okay but like I want to be included
she can come out too
she can but she the first couple
time she was like you know doing
because it's also she's like oh this is nice
because now I can just like clean this up
or do this in the house without having to worry
about if he's going to jump off a couch and
you know break his neck right
and so
but she was like a little bit jealous
you know and I kind of like that a little bit
I like that too.
There's so many cool things you can do.
You can also make a little target.
I think that's what you should do.
You should make a target for him to aim the flashlight at.
Say, how long can you hold it there, buddy?
You know?
Time them.
That would be great.
What kind of workbench?
Did you build one?
Did you buy one?
What did we do?
We had one at the office.
Oh, nice.
That I just brought home.
All right.
That's easy.
And you know what I would like?
what I'm doing right now too.
You know, like doing what we do, Charlie, we could probably contact a company that does garage storage.
We can say, hey, we're going to do a video.
Send us a bunch of this.
We'll set it up in the garage.
We'll do a video with it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And basically just get a really awesome garage.
Right.
Combed, right?
Right.
But then you like didn't earn it.
Right.
Do you know what I mean?
Yeah, you want to.
Right now I'm currently like stuff I already got and stuff I'm slowly building over time.
I want to build this garage the way that I want to do it, not just go and, you know, buy a whole set and then just set it up and it's done.
Yeah, I agree with you.
I, uh, I built this work bench, which I was pretty proud of.
Okay.
I was pretty, it's a, it's a thick bench.
Like you can, it's not going anywhere.
It's not going anywhere.
Like if it was in California, earthquake hits, don't matter.
This sucker is supported by six, four by fours, all right?
But then I got a little jealous because I went over to buddy mine's and he made a cool workbench too.
And it folds right into the wall.
And I could really use that extra space.
But at the same time, at the same time, I got too much shit for it to fold.
So, you know, I got to be realistic about it too.
But shelving, I haven't done any shelving.
of substance yet. So that's kind of next on my list. I, uh, I wanted to mount my
battery chargers for like my drill and stuff on the wall. Uh-huh. And I could have just drilled it
into the wall and I said, no, I'm going to make something cool with it. Yeah. So I had some extra
two-by-sixes laying around the garage. Okay. So I made a little, I screwed the one, two-by-sixth
to the other one. So it made like a wall plate and then a shelf above it. Okay. And then I mounted that
to the wall. Okay. Then I
was online and I found like
flush mount
drill thing. Like,
uh, so basically like, you know
the battery goes on the bottom of the drill.
Yeah. They make mounts that are shaped just like that and they click in
that are only like, you know,
a quarter inch thick. Oh, so you can just put them right up on it?
So I just slide on there. It just looks like it's hanging
there. No shit. So I added all that stuff
and I'm just slowly going to build the garage like that.
That's cool. You know what? On that.
that whole deal. I just got a little rack from the store and hung it up. And it's just not big
enough. And it's, it's awkward with the chargers. So send me the blueprints for that.
Yeah. Because that's that's, I even, uh, brought the, the charger, the charger mount off the wall
a little bit so I could hide the cords behind it. That was another thing. I got cords draping like it's
my television. That's why you got to just build it custom so you can think about stuff like that.
I know. Sometimes though I get like, auntie in. I'm like, I, I,
just want this thing hung so I can do this project. And then, um, and then I just like drill shit to
the wall, you know, and so now I got to backtrack a little bit. And it was great. I spent,
it was a Saturday. My kid nap for three hours that day. And the three hours, I just spent
building that shelf. Oh, that's great. I even ran to the northern tool, picked up the mountain stuff.
How many times did you go? Not just once. But I did get back and I was like,
I probably should have grabbed some more stuff.
You ever go to a nice lumber yard and just smell certain woods?
I like doing that.
I used to work for this violin guy in his shop.
I always say this, but he would send me out to the lumber yard because he would need.
And I would just like, there was certain aisles you walk down just nothing like the smell of cedar.
Do you ever like just like scratch a little bit?
You know?
Just do a little line of, yeah.
What's good?
Good. Wood's good. Nothing like the smell of wood, right, Miles?
I want to, you're going to love this. You're kind of, you like, you like something that'll
blow your mind. If you think about it. My mind.
In terms of building materials, right? Like think about gold and different precious metals
and rocks and stone and all that, right? Right. You think about that. And then you throw wood in the
mix, wood is the scarcest resource in the entire universe that we know about.
No kidding.
Because we're the only planet with wood that we know of because we're the only one that
can support life.
So in other words, life is the scarcest resource that we know of.
Because if you think we're one planet with life on it, thus we have vegetation.
trees wood.
Yeah.
And from what we've seen, we haven't seen another planet with life on it.
They got gold and lithium and all sorts of, you know, all the other elements, all the other
resources they have on all these other planets, but they don't have wood.
Dude.
And we act like, we just act like wood.
We take wood for granted.
Yeah, we do.
Well, I don't.
I got stockpiles of it, dude.
We should, we should create a bill for the government to make wood, replace the,
gold standard with the wood standard and we will be rich do you think about if aliens show up they're gonna want all our wood they're not gonna want our other shit yeah they're like our whole planet our whole planet's made of gold we don't have wood where we're hot we would like your wood we'd like we'd like all of your hard woods soft woods all of the woods erotic wood uh also life actually how you get life um yeah that's true
Miles, I think that's really, really interesting.
Yeah, because gold for whatever it's worth, there's gold everywhere, I guess.
In the universe, yeah.
You just dig enough.
You don't need life to produce gold.
Yeah, it doesn't make any sense.
Rock.
There's so much stone.
Yeah.
Oh, there's rocks for days.
Just a commodity in the universe, but wood?
They don't got it.
Oh, that's what I like where.
We're just not thinking about the fact that we got what everyone else don't got.
It's not what we think.
It isn't that funny?
It's like the more you know, the more you don't.
You know?
That's so true, man.
That's so true, man.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
So, yeah, I figured you'd like that because you are like a notorious wood guy.
You love wood.
I love good wood.
And I'm sorry to appreciate it more and more.
I like, uh, I like sanding wood properly, you know.
I hate sanding wood.
well i hated it for a long time too because i was in my life generally i'm a cutting corners guy
no i grew like you just work on the corners like of a table or like you only cut the corners
or you're cutting big circular table guy i hate doing rectangular tables i hate cutting the corners
no i grew up it was i was drilled into me measure twice cut once and then when i kind of got out
of my family household where that was drilled in, I was like, I don't fucking need to measure.
I'll just.
You don't even need to measure at all?
Not even just once.
You measure once, but you really learn that you should measure twice after trying it a few times.
So, but then I've, I started to realize after I rebelled against the early lessons of life,
I came back to them.
And I found out you can't just start off with the finest sandpaper that's, or the, you can't
just take some wood and just get the roughest,
you got to listen to the wood,
you got to feel the wood,
you got to see what that wood needs.
See if it's softwood,
hardwood couldn't handle that coarseness
or does it just need some
a little bit more subtle
and how much lacquer is on it?
So anyways, Miles,
I think for my birthday,
I might go get some wood.
That's great.
In California.
I was going to say,
how you can get home.
Well, we talked about you going to the Redwoods.
That's kind of the same thing.
That's true.
We were already talking about that.
I don't think I'm...
Go smell the Redwoods on your birthday.
I've walked through a Redwood forest by having been to the Redwoods.
Although I think a bunch of them burns.
To the New York Islands.
This land was made for you and me.
Mostly billionaires.
Dun,
done.
We had such a great segment.
I hope people know it's true.
All right,
What do you think?
What do you think?
Let's take some collars.
Let's take some collars.
Spring cleaning season is here.
Okay?
So, all right.
So remember when I was in my garage?
Yeah.
You know?
And I was like, I was putting up,
it was putting up those little,
it's not slab wall.
Is it slat wall?
It's the wall that lets you like hang shit on it, you know?
Yeah.
Okay.
It's not pegboard.
It's like this.
Yeah, it's a wall sled.
Yeah.
Forget what they call it.
They have some name for it.
But then, you know,
you got to put up like a base layer first.
you know
anyway
I had the
I had the old
circular saw
there miles
and you know
I was I was cutting it
I was cutting good
and then
my brother came out
and my brother
had just flooded
the upstairs
okay
and he said
hey char
and I knew the way
he said
hey char
and I was like
yeah
and like he had
he had a mistake
I was like
what's wrong
and he goes
we got an issue
inside
and I was like
shit
and I
slipped with the saw
and what I was doing
and I just cut a bad cut
but it could have been my finger is the point
okay so what I'm telling you is
had I cut my finger I would
call Nicolet Law because I
was on company time and I could
have gotten some workers comp yes I own the
company yes he would have been suing me
for that but probably would have just
been the insurance company but in another scenario
where you aren't your own boss
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again in the Midwest. Miles, you look like you could drive a NASCAR right now. Actually, you look like
you could drive to a NASCAR race with those bad boys. Yeah, driving the truck. Yeah. Carrying in the
NASCAR. Uh-huh. I feel that way. Look at these. I got my shady rays on and it's warming up in
the Midwest, sunshine. You got to make sure you're going into summer with a nice pair of shades.
Absolutely. And for Sprinter too, like we're about to get some snow, even though it's spring,
crazy, but when you got white on the ground,
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the sun just reflecting on you, but summer, obviously, you, I'm saying,
it's full year for these sunnies. That's true. And I got the JFK special
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Happy birthday to you. I like it with those shady rays, dude.
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No.
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You could.
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No, I was just trying to make a joke about baseball glove breaking it in.
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Tyler.
What is cooking, Tyler?
Uh, you know, not much, just sick.
With what?
What do you got?
Clamydia, what is it?
Like a head cold.
Okay, that's how it starts usually.
Hopefully it doesn't devolve into chlamydia.
Well, good for you.
So we hope you get better.
Are you doing anything to take care of yourself?
Are you watching some Netflix, getting some rest?
Or you just working getting everyone else sick?
Uh, mix of the last two.
Okay, nice.
Good for you.
I can't take a dump truck to the dump here in a bit.
Oh, what are you hauling?
Scrap.
Scrap.
Yeah.
All right.
Hopefully not any scrap wood.
That shit's precious.
Yeah.
Do you have scrap wood in there?
No, that's all rotted out and termite infested.
It's already garbage.
All right.
Well, yeah, good burn pile.
Yeah, would be.
I mean, that goes up fast.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, just.
So, Tyler, what's going on?
Yeah, sorry.
So this is the billied back up for the book of Keith.
And boy, does this story get more juicy than I ever thought when I told you boys about it.
Oh, wait, what is this?
Jared intentionally kept us in the dark about what was going on.
What is it?
This is the bellied back up for the book of Keith.
I found out more about this story.
And it gets so much more messed up.
Okay.
Great.
To set the table, Tyler called us up, oh, about a month, two, three ago.
And he had a car that he had purchased or his buddy did.
It doesn't matter.
But the trunk smelt of ass.
And he popped the trunk.
And that was kind of like a misnomer of a thing.
We don't know what that meant.
But there was a journal in the trunk.
And in this journal was a man, Keith's prison journal.
Tyler then called the number in there, which was Keith's gal lover, lover.
who he was writing all these glove notes to
and he never knew how to spell lose
from what I recall
Yep
I don't want to lose you
I don't want to lose you any but we said
we wanted him to read the journal to us but he didn't have it
So he's going to get it call back in and so now we are going
This is a new segment of
Reading from chapter one
of Keith's
Prison Journal Chronicles of Keith
Chronicles of Keith
so it gets better so i found out more about this whole story about how we got arrested and everything
and it gets it gets it gets kind of crazy so turns out i have a friend named keith spelled the
exact same way the only difference is their last name so happens are there multiple ways to spell
keith there are multiple ways to spell keith no there's no there's not dude wait give me one other way to
out Keith.
I can't spell.
Never mind.
I take that statement back.
Tyler,
how are we supposed
to trust what you
have to say now?
I can't spell.
I can read.
Okay,
fair enough.
Fair enough.
All right.
But my buddy Keith
knows book of Keith
and was talking to him
about it.
Got got kind of
the scoop on it
on how he got arrested.
Okay,
so your buddy Keith
knows the real Keith.
Yeah.
Got it.
Book of Keith knows
my buddy Keith. Okay. So did they
like do all Keith's just get together? How did they know each other? They were all a Keith meet up.
Secret Keith meeting every Wednesday or something. Secret Keith convention. No,
they work with them. Did he date him? What? So I never asked him how he knew this story either
because he lives kind of in that general area. Okay. I would expect that they ran into each other
from time to time. Yeah. Guy around. So why did he get arrested?
So it turns out
Didn't go to jail
Went to or didn't go to prison
Went to jail
But how he got arrested
So he got pulled over by the cops
He got out and he fled
Well his gal stayed behind
And she called the book of Keith
Pulled him
The cops aren't going to arrest you
Come back
He came back
They cuffed him and booked him
And took him away
Wow
So his girl's a rat
Yeah
What was her name again?
I can't remember the name we gave her.
She'll call her the rat.
We'll just call her the rat.
The rat.
The rat works fantastic.
Wow.
The rat works fantastic.
But maybe she's not a rat.
Maybe the police just fooled her.
I don't know.
Why did he run?
While he was in there.
Well, yeah.
Yeah.
Several times.
Why do you run?
Um, no idea.
I wasn't told that information.
So why did he actually get arrested because he ran or because of something else that he was getting pulled over for and then they just added the running on top of it?
I think it was a mix of that plus priors.
Ah, okay.
So he's got a rap sheet.
Yeah, probably one of those.
I can't get arrested again ordeals.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because then he'll lose his girlfriend.
All right.
Okay, so, and he only got a year.
I mean, it must have been a bunch of petty crimes plus running from the police to only get a year.
Probably.
So you said, is his girlfriend cheated on him a bunch?
How did you find that out?
And does Keith forgive her and are they still together?
Sorry, I was taking a drink.
So, friend Keith didn't really fill me in on that portion of whether they were together or not.
But I'm going to go off of her word that they still are.
job just due to the fact that you know i may have called her at eight o'clock a night but you know
it might have been might have been truth might not have been who knows well we'll assume they're
still together that that keith's a forgiving guy because he forgave her for ratting him out and cheating
on him we'll assume the the best rather than the worst that's what you usually do with
people who bet in jail yeah for the most part give him give him several chances
all right so what's the weird shit
no i was going through i was looking at
i was looking at these stories
as i've gone through him
his
he started out like with pencil
went to pen back to pencil
and then
and then the blood
just randomly speckled in here
just gets more and more it's soaked through more
pages as i've looked through it
huh
that's peculiar
i forgot there was blood on them
Yeah, maybe I had a buddy nose.
Maybe someone snuck him in some nose drugs.
Some little Bogota, bugger sugar.
Something like that.
So that's the, is that all the news that we know right now is that that's how we got arrested and that she cheated on them?
Yes.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Well, can we, can we dive into this journal?
Yeah, read us a section.
Let me find a, let me find a good section.
Get us a juicy one.
All right.
July 30th, Wednesday.
Same shit,
different day.
Boring as hell. There's only two people
in the unit right now.
They moved a shit ton of people a little bit
ago, comma.
Probably two days ago, I think.
Nobody will answer any calls.
I still don't have my tablet.
I swear to God, if I don't get one soon,
so I can see if you texted me, I'm going to
loose my fucking mind.
I'm getting pids.
I miss you so fucking much.
I've asked multiple times to see if I have a court date,
and they are still telling me that they do not have me scheduled yet.
I often wonder what you're doing, what you're thinking, how you're doing,
and it's really driving me crazy, not being able to ask about your day and talking to you.
end of July 30th
Wow
I miss you so fucking much
I just love the love letter
The unsent love letters
You know
Yeah was his plan to give it to her
When he was out you think
I am guessing so
And it just never happened
Yeah
He has
What did I do in two different spots
Just randomly post sideways
On pieces of paper
You ran from the police
and a bunch of other shit.
So is he, I forget, he's out now, right?
Yeah, he's out. He's out and about.
He's chilling.
So can we get another one in there?
All right.
So get ready for this.
Bear with me.
My ability to read is ass.
You and Jared.
Yeah. Jared.
We're team.
So, rat.
Babe, you don't even know how much I miss you.
You don't know how much I appreciate you.
You mean so much to me.
You're my world, my heart, my soul, my best friend.
You're the only person I trust at this point.
I don't know what you have over me,
but you will always have a place in my heart.
I've said it before, but I honestly don't think I've ever felt this way about a woman before, question mark.
Why do I love you so much?
Why am I so drawn to you?
I honestly don't know.
I love your smile, you're your laugh, especially when you giggle, dot, dot, dot, dot.
It's just cute.
I love the way you handle yourself.
I remember the fun times like cooking a single slice of Little Caesar's Pizza over a campfire, watching movies and making TikToks.
I wish we would have taken.
Oh, no, that's not taken.
That's token.
T-O-O-K-E-N, T-O-K-E-N, T-O-K-E-N, T-O-K-E-N, T-O-K-E-N, A-K-A, A-K-A, me let you take more pictures of us.
There's truly a lot of things I could have done different, and that's what I intend to do.
when I get out of this, get out of this time.
I want to be the person you want in life.
Give you what you deserve.
Baby, when I get out, I really do want to get a dog.
You of all people know I love.
And I got to put the page.
Love days than I do.
Oh, dogs.
That's dogs.
Love dogs than I do.
People.
Well, besides you.
I really do need to start working out.
past time, you know, I'm thinking about getting an MP3 player and downloading some music,
but to get one of those, it's expensive AF. It's capital A and F. So I don't know if I should or not.
I honestly don't know what to do. If I get back out on probation, I'll have no job, no money,
no legal place to stay, no car, no nothing. I'm nervous as fuck to get out without any of those
and beyond probation
because at that point
I'll be screwed
and sent right
but in here
B-U-E-T
for probation
violation period
at the bottom
in all caps
fuck I love you so much baby
three hearts and three smiley faces
holy smokes
guy what were they
they were cooking on little Caesar
slice of pizza over a fire
is over a campfire
that's so romantic
that's so romantic.
This is nothing more romantic than a hot and sweaty pizza.
Little Caesar's pizza.
Pizza pizza. Pizza pizza.
That is.
Yeah, go ahead.
I got one more.
And the ending on this one's kind of sad.
And if you guys want to, it's a little bit of a tear jerker.
Yeah.
That's real life.
Yeah.
Start this out.
Mamas, baby girl, rat, love.
Hmm.
Where the hell do I start?
What do I say?
Jail is just the same.
day repeated over and over till you get out basically literally the same thing wake up eat breakfast
stay up or go back to sleep go eat lunch then maybe play a game of castle or spades damn near too
much spades uh that's the wrong too it's t w o in this context um too much spades is what i like
though what the hell people don't like betting with me on two man spades because i'll bid low and end up
throwing off the
given
amount or no
give them bags and
geez give them bags
and set them back
about 90% of the time
I end up winning
I can't tell if he's cheating in the spades
or if he's just got the
luck of a gambling man
anyways
damn I win
desserts milks
nudes oh
noodles
coffee oh coffee
Jesus
all the time
and cash in
when I want them.
What the fuck?
My,
my,
my,
my homie
Lobel,
L-A-B-O-E-S,
how the,
lobe-os?
L-A-B-O-E-S?
L-A-B-O-E-S.
Leboeos?
LaBose? Sure.
My homie Leboz
keeps coming back and I keep telling him
he don't want to,
no matter what he keeps doing it.
It's to,
it's to the point,
low-key,
or to the point I low-key felt bad and stopped taking his dessert.
Oh.
Carolina got out today, so now I ain't got no one to talk shit with, but fuck.
Guess I'll have to find somebody else.
Well, that's what it says.
This dude Gunner, I'd call him goldfish, though, because of his stay in the
MRT class, MRI class, lets me listen to music.
on his tablet, which is pretty nice.
And then he's got three big hearts drawn.
And down below those three big hearts,
P.S, I would draw more stuff, but I don't know how to.
But I know how to draw at all.
So sorry, but that's all you get.
I love you.
He doesn't know how to draw.
But he knows how to draw at all.
He doesn't know how to draw at all.
Yeah, he doesn't know how to draw at all.
Okay, I do have a question.
I let this go the first time.
I thought you had added it, but now I heard it a second time.
He said rat twice.
No, he says her name, but we're keeping her name.
Oh.
We're redacting it.
I see.
We're doing the Epstein files.
Well, if we were doing the Epstein files, he would have just been silent for two minutes.
Well, been silent or you just would have heard a beep.
Yeah, exactly.
That was, that was a such a, just, I think I hear the takeaway.
that's that's that's that's that's wholesome one this kind of one of those yeah he's got friends he's just
he's a he's got friends he's an average man just trying to live his day to day life yeah he's got
so much so much kindness in his heart you can tell you know not taking those not taking uh
low's dessert i mean that that that was really i mean you know and he's a bit of a hustler
but a hustler with a conscience yeah i think i think i like to see that
And this gal is just the light at the end of his tunnel, just keeping him sane, you know?
Just keeping him saying.
And then there's also a, he wrote down a bill of sale in here.
He sold a car.
I know, he bought a car while in jail.
What?
I thought he was worried about not having any money.
There's a, I kid you not, there's a bill of sale for a 95 GMC, Yukon, 200 bucks.
Are you can't?
Maybe, oh, here's what I bet it is.
he won that playing spades.
Yeah.
What a D to a car playing.
It's not racing for pinks.
It's gambling for pinks.
I want you for pinks all out.
Gambling for pink slips.
That's kind of fun.
Yeah.
And then after that bill of sale,
it's just kind of radio static to the back
where it's got his music playlist
that he wanted to download onto the MP3 player.
I currently have a few of them.
queued up in the truck.
What was his playlist?
So it's it's a list.
There's one, two, three, four.
There's a shit ton.
I'm not going to count all.
You need to make a Spotify playlist called Keith's jail playlist.
And then put all the songs in there.
And then our listeners can go listen to Keith's playlist.
Yeah.
And I think you should read, record yourself reading the entire journal.
And then we'll go like song entry.
Get like some ASMR.
Yeah.
I get really close to the mic, like have some faint rain sounds in the background.
Read some sections while one of the,
while the playlist of the music is just slowly and quietly playing in the background.
I fucking love you.
Stuff like that.
Do you think he gave this journal to her after he got out?
It sounds like he wrote this journal with an audience in mind.
It sounds like he did, but honestly, it was just sitting in the trunk.
So I don't know.
if he threw it back there and then just forgot to give it to her or what and like i said when i called
her asked if she wanted it and she goes do whatever you want with it so i said okay wow well we got
consent from her yeah yeah exactly have you talked to teeth yet uh which keith you know the keith
in jail friend keith or keith book keith book uh no i have not i was kind of try and look up if he i i
I was trying to find what he got arrested for through the public work system.
I got to figure out where he got sent to jail to begin with.
I'm trying to figure that out.
Yeah, you'll figure it out.
Yeah, that sounds cool, man.
Well, yeah, thank you for the update on this.
This is great.
At some point, you've read every page of this journal.
Is that correct?
Yeah.
I think that when I get home, I need to tell I need to get babysitter.
and I need to do a Keith date with Ann.
We need to go campfire somewhere.
Go go and go get one slice of little seasons.
A little season.
Just say, you know,
TikToks together.
And this may not seem like much of a night,
but when I'm in jail,
this is what I'm going to write about.
This is what I'm going to remember.
Mm-hmm.
The little moments.
It is the little moments.
He's got some little moments written down in here
and some funny moments,
some sad parts.
Is there, is TikTok
handle in there, I'd love to get a peep at those
TikToks. I would love
to as well, but there's no
TikTok handle. There's a
credit card pin. Like I said,
a bunch of numbers with people's
names,
apartment.
Oh, wait. I might be able to find out where he is.
Okay. I've got his old apartment
in here. Which means I can
find the area of where he was at. See if that's where he got.
Yeah. Okay. Another breadcrum.
Yeah. You're slowly pulling.
in the string, you know.
Yeah.
Sherlock and Holmes.
Yeah, and he sounds like a nice guy.
He sounds like a real nice guy.
He does sound really nice.
Maybe you can help him get a job, you know?
I mean, he had a lot of valid concerns in there.
No job.
No place to live.
Maybe you can help him reenter society.
This is a great.
I probably said this last time.
This is such a great plot for a movie.
You find this notebook.
You get obsessed with him.
You finally meet him.
You help him out.
You become friends.
Or have a TV series, too.
TV series.
Kind of like one of those
Not documentaries
What is it?
It's where people like find stories
And I go find the actual people in real life
And it's like an hour and a half
Yeah
A little segment
A little mini docu series made three four episodes
Yeah exactly
Sometimes
Sometimes you know
People
Like if you write
Like sometimes I write screenplays
In like a job
journal. And I'm like, oh, God, if anyone ever found that, that'd be interesting. Because you do
like sort of character stuff in it. And one time I found something that looks similar. I was like,
oh, this guy's guy's a similar brain as me. And the, I think it was stories because the stuff he was
talking about was just insane. I found it in this lost and found at this pool I worked at as a kid.
and I was just bored, but I was like, this is insane.
And I think what I can gather is he's just writing screenplays, you know.
I've done that before, you know.
Lost and Founds are great, man.
If you ever work at a place with the Lost and Found,
there's nothing better than going through that.
There was this one Lost and Found,
or one time at the Pool Lost and Film where someone had a wedding ring in there,
did not come back for it.
But there was a little, a little naughty toy.
in a bag. They came back that next day. So I don't know what that says about American society,
but.
Well, that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, so time about Charlie. Yeah. You're working at a pool.
Yeah. What were you working? You were a lifeguard? No, I, I, I was, I was the guy who worked,
uh, I worked maintenance and landscaping and like cleaning the garbage cans. So what the hell
are you doing looking through the lost and found? Because when you're bored, you go, you, you, you try to
Mac on the 16 year olds when you're I I'm I'm 13 I am 13 years old 14 years old these were
older you go Mac on the guy can we can we can I put that edit that before I said 16 year olds
I'm 14 I'm trying to hit on these 16 year olds and it's tough to do it because I smell like
soda because I kept stealing the the aluminum cans from the garbage so I could go sell them
ever thought someone smelled like soda you
you stick.
You stick.
When I walked in, it was
like I was a sticky guy.
And I had soda stains all over
my pants. But I cleaned up
with the price
of aluminum at the time, Miles, I can make
a lot of extra money.
But anyways, yeah,
I would just go in there and, you know,
sometimes she would take a break and I would
like man the table. She wasn't supposed to do that.
But largely I had just enjoyed looking
through the lost and found. It's kind of like,
why I enjoy going to flea markets these days.
You know, you can just go back in history.
Everything's got a story.
You know, it's nice.
So, no, so you found this journal in the Lost and Found.
Yeah, it was a journal.
And you think it was a guy writing screenplays?
Yeah, it was, it was, you were a guy writing screenplays.
And this was in what town?
This, this would have been in, uh, Elm Grove, Wisconsin at the pool at the public
You think a guy was writing screenplays at the Elm Grove Pool?
I think maybe.
I think that's perhaps the case.
Yeah.
And there was some wild shit in there?
What was the wildest thing you remember?
None of it really made sense, honestly.
And I can't give you specifics.
But I hadn't thought about that in a while.
But I just thought about it.
But it was just like, it was like, you know, there was some like, like, it seemed like bad,
um, bad soap opera stuff, you know.
like and then
what made me also
connected dots is when I was doing
a screenwriting class
you would basically take a character
and I've done this stuff
where you take a character
and you try to think
specifically through that character's lens
and you write stuff
as if you're that character
you know
that's what he was doing
I think that's what he was doing
yeah so I mean I do a bunch of that stuff
and but out of context
it's kind of like uh oh
what's going on with this guy
it and so what I mean with this dude
everything seems from the
same point of view that he's trying to get the it's like a collection of love letters for this gal
i wonder if he had a bunch of other journals you know that detailed other elements of it that had
a different audience you know yeah like i don't know just dodge but yeah that awesome that awesome found
stories clearly than mine i used to work out of pool as well but i was a lifeguard i found a scarf
in Austin down there in the middle of summer okay yeah um in the middle of summer that is that's crazy
where was this pool it's just in my hometown up in idaho did you ever uh have to save anyone
no ironically enough every time that i got swapped out because we'd do rotations just because of how
hot it was so none of us would get overheated at five minutes after we'd rotate i'd hear the whistle blow and whoever
was watching would have to jump in and save someone.
Oh.
So I always missed it just by a couple minutes.
That sounds a little suspicious, dude.
Or they were drowning that whole time and you weren't just weren't paying attention.
We almost had to kick one family out because they had a,
it was a toddler, like not much older than two.
Who, do you want to know how they would teach him to swim?
Strowman.
Yeah, they pulled, um, what was that movie?
The Western movie, great actor Cameron.
remember his name.
But basically just threw their kid in head first and watch them roll around and float and sink
and then come back up.
Well,
that's like actually,
that's a thing.
Like,
that's a way you teach kids how to like,
it's actually safer than not teaching them anything because if they do that and they
come back up to the top and they can float on their back,
then they won't drown at least for a while,
at least for a couple months.
Oh,
this kid was floating face down.
Oh,
well,
you know,
first,
you know,
you think you're just going to figure it out the first time.
It's a story about life.
You got to float face down before you can float on your back.
And a kid also had nine siblings.
Well,
what does that have to do with anything?
You're talking shit about Charlie's family?
Is this?
Yeah,
I got 11 siblings,
dude.
Where do you fall in that 11?
Second oldest.
See,
you're fine.
You're sensible.
Yeah,
true.
Facts.
Yep.
But yeah,
they start.
I don't know how sensible he is.
He's putting his siblings on the mantle and leaving the room.
Can we stop bringing that?
up because I forgot I said well here's the thing how's that ain't different than throwing a kid in a
pool huh how's actually more responsible than throwing a kid who can't swim in the pool yeah because
I was gonna catch him they weren't actually going to fall I was just left the room uh but I was peeking
they were oh and I forget you're like you're like spider man and you just you got quick reflexes
yeah I can do it I can do it I don't know why I decided to do that uh
I'm trying to blame it on someone else right now,
but I can't remember if it was done to me.
I don't think so.
I don't know why I thought that.
I was young.
My brain wasn't fully formed miles.
There you go.
Yeah.
When they threw their kid in,
they would hype it up like an MMA fight.
I'm not kidding you.
They were screaming their chain.
Go, go, go and turn, roll, roll, go.
Yeah.
Screaming.
Right.
People will walk away to hear them.
Oh, okay.
Well, I mean, I guess that can be a little jarring for the rest of the paying customers of the pool.
um all right well we appreciate the update on keith oh yeah of course i'll see if i can't find out uh
yeah what he got arrested for and i'll just shoot jared a text so he can tell you guys that'd be sweet
we appreciate it dude we appreciate you getting the notebook too of course my pleasure all right
watch for deer there oh you as well boys all right a good one you keep a journal yeah yeah yeah i keep i
keep many a journal like actually keep a journal where you're talking about your internal feelings i have
some of that yeah a lot of times it's first drafts of most of the stuff i write i just do it on pen pen
and paper you know um yeah do you ever i have notebooks oh he doesn't want to call it he doesn't
want to call it diary do you must do you have a diary pal no it's more so like uh it's like kind of my
like brain dump.
Yes.
It's not like I'm,
it's not like I'm doing a narrative thing all the time.
Right.
Like writing something out.
It's more so like,
I need to do this or what if we did this or is this piece of content good?
You know,
um,
you know,
then I'll have like random just math in there.
Yeah.
Drawings.
I like to draw arrows.
Yeah.
I draw on the margins a lot.
Basically like to get all my thoughts out of my head and onto paper and then I can organize them,
you know?
That's good.
And I actually have, I think, five of them.
Nice.
And I have them all dated.
That's wonderful.
So it's kind of cool, actually, because you can go back in a business sense for me.
Like, there's a lot of business stuff in there.
He's trying to make this very masculine talking about diaries.
I do have entries where I talk about, you know, like how I'm feeling about my current state of my life.
Yeah, feelings.
And at the end of every single one, I try and like do like a.
message for the next notebook, you know? Oh, that's cool. A takeaway. But yeah, so you can go back
in the notebooks and see like what state of mind I was in over the years and how my philosophy
and strategy and stuff evolves. And you can be like, oh yeah, I thought that was a good idea back
then. That would turn out to be a really bad idea. Yeah. But cool to see it written down.
Cool to see. I wish I could go back and tend to this entry. I don't have that. I don't have that. I don't have
the regret. Good. Because without that entry, you don't get the next one. Right. It's all the stop
what you didn't hit, you know. Wait. Yeah. Yeah. It's a country song lyric or a bet,
but you know what? I go back and I read some, sometimes and I see the patterns. Some patterns have
changed and some parents are the exact same. I'm like, oh, I'm, this thought I think is new. I've
thought a thousand times before. Yeah. You know, like the man's one minute, that idea,
I had that in 2014. That's cool. Yeah. Isn't that interesting? So a lot of times, but so going back
and reading the old stuff I find is kind of almost as useful as writing the new stuff. But I do a lot of
sometimes it can probably get in your head too much. But on those brain dumps, yeah, I do a thing like
where you just you don't even think about what you're thinking you just write your thoughts fragments
whatever and um you know none of it's true they're just thoughts and i think that's an interesting
thing if your brain like how many thoughts do you think a day that are just not true or accurate
but they come through your mind and where do they come from and then when you write them on paper you
can see okay which thoughts are part of me sucks that that's not a good idea which thoughts are part of me
and which ones are just, you know, projected on to me from the world, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, oh, that thought sucks and isn't real.
That thoughts, it's not a productive thing.
It's not a good thing.
That's not who I am.
But it's a thought.
And for all honest with ourselves, we all have a bunch of terrible thoughts, whatever they are.
And but to just almost, the idea is if you put them out there, you release them,
but you do have to do that work of saying that's not me, you know.
Well, yeah, it's, uh, once you realize.
that you aren't your thoughts.
There's just something going on in your head,
then your whole game changes.
Exactly.
You get to choose which thought to chase and not.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's...
You can choose which thought to give energy to and not.
Right, right.
And that's, especially in this business,
this very sort of creative business or whatever,
you can, I mean, you know, you know, I can go down on rabbit hole, you know?
And, oh, oh, do I?
But, you know, some things are, are,
you can see what you're seeing is accurate
and then you just also pay attention
to your patterns over time.
What I think kind of sucks though
is what I realized those notebooks
is I really only spend time in them
when things aren't going well.
So it's just a collection
of when you're just kind of in low spots.
100% I've had that and I've had the full.
It was like, oh, if you just read the notebook,
you'd be like, this guy is so mentally unstable.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, 100%.
And I've sort of made myself do it every day for a while.
I go in bits and starts with it.
So to avoid that, you know, even for yourself when you're going back reading it.
Yeah, well, you should have happy notebooks and sad notebooks.
Yeah, I should.
Yeah.
Sad journal, good journal.
Yeah.
But it's had habit, I guess, of doing it every day.
That's kind of funny, actually.
Miles in the happy journal.
And basically, like, when I die in my will, I have it that they're going to make two
books of my life.
And if you read the sad book, you'd be like,
this is a tragedy. If you read the
happy book, you're like, wow, this is a
fairy tale. Do you know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah, who's going to read your
journals when you go, Miles? I don't know.
Whoever grabs them? Yeah, I guess
why is it matter? You're gone. That's kind
of an interesting idea.
That's actually a really good idea for like
a, you know what I mean?
Like, if you just read people's
low points, you'd be like this person had a terrible
life. Yeah, maybe they're
They're crazy, whatever.
But if you just read their high points, be like, wow, this guy's got the best life ever.
He's so happy.
That's probably a thing, though, when they're like Picasso, he was so depressed.
You know, all these people.
He only wrote down when he was depressed.
Right, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, you can't just go off of what's there.
He was a tortured poet.
He's like, well, because he only wrote when he was tortured.
Right.
Yeah.
Van Gogh's like that.
It only paints what he said.
Yeah.
He was happy 95% of the time.
Those few paintings that got him on.
depression people painted his whole life as that's true yeah it is true oh man and we're really
untangling uh the that yeah like when you're like having a great time in life you're on like
i should go right down how this feels no no like fuck i don't have to write today because i feel
yeah i feel great i'm gonna just sleep in till 10 fuck it you know it's actually pretty funny
that is funny yeah we came across a little bit there miles
Um, what do you think?
Should we, uh, that's it?
Is that it?
So, Darren.
Well, guys, thanks for tuning into another episode of the Bellied Up podcast.
You got to get down to the Lions Pub.
If you're in Minneapolis, it's a great spot.
And, uh, with a Y, L-Y-O-N.
We'll see you in the next one, guys.
Tip your bartender.
Okay.
Hope you guys have a good one.
Goodbye now.
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