Bellied Up - The World's Coolest Homemade Bicycle #130

Episode Date: December 12, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to the bellied up podcast. I am Charlie Barron's. I'm here with my very, very good, great buddy, stellar buddy, miles. Mon plaisu AKA miles. Are you betcha guy? Hello folks. Hello. How you doing Charles? Doing good miles. Um, we actually have a correction from the last episode. We're still at the old garden grill and pub, but we're not in Bemidji, Charlie. We're not. We're technically in nine more. No. Yeah. Tell me more. We're on the wrong side of the Paul Bunyan bridge. Oh, sure.
Starting point is 00:00:36 The other side is Bemidji here where nine more. So nine more is beautiful this time of year. I really is. I'll tell you what. Yeah. Now, Miles, when we're recording this, I got a little thorn still stuck in my paw that I haven't quite fully gotten out of my chest. Before we do that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Charlie, I like your hat. Oh, do you? Yeah. The road hunting for ditch chickens hat? Yeah. And you're wearing the blaze orange sweatshirt? Yeah. Why, Miles, with Christmas. Yeah. Why miles with Christmas
Starting point is 00:01:06 coming up? What a great Christmas gift idea. Great stocking stuffer for St. Nicholas day, which depends on what size sweatshirt you get and whether or not you can stuff it in the stocking. Well, you just get a bigger stocking miles. True. I mean, they can do that these days with the wonders of sewing. So guys, if you've got a lovely loved one that would love some bellied up merchandise, we also got the bellied up shirt that says, if you can read this and bellied up to the bar as well as ditch chickens, shirts, hats, sweatshirt, go to, Oh, you bet you.com. Oh, H H you bet you.com. Give them a Christmas gift back to regular squint scheduled programming.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Miles, we're in nine more Minnesota. Okay. And then there was a fella on the other side of the bar who asked me to do the skull chant. And I said, there's no way in fricking hack. I'm doing the gosh darn skull chant. In fact, when the Packers played the Vikings at Lambeau field, they were smacking the snot out of them in the first quarter. And all I saw around the whole freaking stadium were these skull chants. And I got to tell you about the skull chant. I think it is the dumbest chant in the NFL. So wait, the whole stadium sounded like this.
Starting point is 00:02:20 Goal. Goal. Goal. Goal. Goal. Goal. Guys, you look like a drunk uncle at a white wedding that everyone swore they put in an Uber 45 minutes ago. But here he is trying to do the YMCA on the dance floor.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Why the hell is that the deal? I think you guys sense a little jealousy in that conversation. Oh, we don't need a chant. Okay. We got, we get, we have go pack go. Okay. Wait, are you talking about Aaron Jones right now? You stole Aaron Jones and he says he likes the skull chip. He has to say that now. Let me tell you that much. And I will also say that you guys are paying him an asinine amount of money and that's probably also why I'm not. No, I think devil's advocate. I don't know if you've ever heard of the Packers stealing a Vikings player though. When was the last
Starting point is 00:03:31 time that happened? You know what? You guys are welcome for Brett far too. And I hope that last game where he threw it right over the middle to the new Orleans saints, ending your super bowl. You could see that you could see the pain and you can see that. Well, what do you say? You got it. This is traumatic guy. You keep bringing up these traumatic things. You got to remember I grew up with bread far there. That's why I have heart murmurs now is because every time he would go back, it's like, Oh gosh, this is getting picked. But a lot of times it got caught. I got trauma about the Vikings. Just like Brett farves got brain trauma. Oh, he had to go there. Miles, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:04:17 I suppose. But what, what is it with like, Hey guys, where does the skull chant even come from? Who knows his story was a soccer team in Europe. I think you guys stole that from a soccer true Jake Yeah Does it I don't know get on Google this what's wrong with America right now? You guys can't even lie to me about what is it? I got it The skull chant comes from the Viking war chant made popular by the Icelandic national football soccer team During UEFA Euro 2016 so they stole Aaron Jones and Brett Favre and the skull chant Charlie you guys are just thieves your pirates your Vikings
Starting point is 00:04:59 That makes a lot of sense. Well, they're pillagers is what I think. Yeah, that's true Other things too that we don't need to give historical accuracy on. So you really stole that from a Iceland soccer team. It's true. And that makes a lot of sense. Well, anyways, come on. It's at least more clever than go pack. Go. Yeah. Go pack. Go. I do agree that the Packers could find a really cool chance. All right. Let's see what you got, Charlie. Is there any, uh, uh, how would you do? What chant if you were going to invent it right now for the Packers, what would it be? Well, you've got to think about it because first of all, I like Go Pack Go, but I agree we could we can maybe spice up something, maybe a little bit, a little bit of spice, a little pepper.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Speaking of spice, who are foods coming? Are you buying time to try and find this? Thank you very much. Who thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, right off the top here, we are doing a sweet potato fry taste test. And what is what's the consensus? Oh, ma'am. This sweet potato fry, I got to tell you,
Starting point is 00:06:19 the green mill does not hold a candle to these. What is that place called? Green mills. Right. These suckers. Oh my gosh. Oh yeah. There's a reason why grill is in front of pub at this bar. I'm going. There's a reason why it's not. I'm going to garden pub and grill. It's grill and pop 4.9, eight six out of five on these sweet potato fries. I agree. Very good. Well, Charlie, what do you think? What's the way before we get into college?
Starting point is 00:06:51 You gotta come up. Thought I got the diversion. I know what give me a, give me a packer chant that you think that they should implement. Keep her moving. That doesn't really work. Kind of does it because you gotta think packing the ACME packing company is where this came from. So the managers are yelling.
Starting point is 00:07:14 There it goes. Yeah. Okay. Keep her moving. No, it's move in. So it goes cause Iowa, like university of Iowa, they do I O W a and each section of the stadium does a different letter. You could do the same. Keep her move in and then go all the way around the thing after a touchdown. Oh, I like that. I like that. Keep her moving because you guys are, uh, no, that's the chant you do after first down. Okay. Er, move in. You've got to be like, okay, what are you going to hit the tube? Okay. Er, move and keep her move. That's actually good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:02 That's not bad. That's what's up. We'll see if the Packers adopt it. Let's go take some colors. Let's do it. Miles belly on up to the bar and tell us what's on your mind Joe. Well I I just got married on September 21st. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you much. But let me tell you what. These vendors, they just make me feel like I'm going to get you. So you're saying that wedding venues, the vendors, the flower people, the all of the photographer, photographer, you're saying they're they're a dick in the up and down is what you're saying. Yeah. Exactly what I'm saying. Well, go ahead. Yeah. So it all, I mean, it all started. We were trying to lock down the venue. We find the venue and, you know, we're going to go back and forth with them. They say it will waive the event fee as long as you hit your food and
Starting point is 00:09:10 baths minimum, which you know, we do. We plan our menu out so that we get over it. And then the final bill comes around and they throw that back on there. It's like, what the heck are we doing guys? We just talked about this in the first contract. It wasn't there. It's that, what the heck are we doing guys? We just talked about this in the first contract. It wasn't there. The second contract was there. So, you know, we have another round of negotiation
Starting point is 00:09:30 after the final bill before we pay it. You know, thank God for my wife. She's a, drives a hard bargain. We were able to get it taken off, but you know, it's like, what are we doing guys? Next thing we had our our photographer we get her all lined up and everything miles I don't mean to I don't mean to be taking shots at your life I know I'm sure she runs a much more honest business than this one
Starting point is 00:09:56 but we we get the get the photographer lined up and we we reach out to her four five six seven eight nine 10 times to get that final bill paid. And you know, she's leaving us on, leaving us on delivered. You know, finally she gets back to us and she says, yeah, I have your photos ready. I'm just, I won't, I won't release them to you guys until our first preview won't release them to you guys until you pay your final bill. We're like, we've been trying to do that for two weeks now. What's going on? Yeah. So, so those two and then our DJ, our DJ has maybe been the worst one. We, we finally find this guy. He, he says he wants to meet up with us, finds a place. We agree on a place to
Starting point is 00:10:42 meet up. I go, I'm sitting there for an hour he doesn't show up that's a DJ move right there so you're just having one thing after another huge pain in the ass pain in the ass did you overpay for the DJ and the wedding photographer too do you feel or were those prices at least reasonable if yeah and you just saved money on their professionalism. Well, my, uh, my wife, she said she didn't want to, uh, skimp on the, give on the photography, which, you know, I understand, you know, you see the horror stories with those. I, so I think we overpaid a little bit on the, on the photographer, but thankfully,
Starting point is 00:11:23 you know, after the DJ didn't show up, he gave us a call back and you know, it was very apologetic. I offered a hundred bucks off. I said, why don't we make that 500 bucks off? And he said, me in the middle to 50 call it a deal. But you know, Speaker 0.(1h 10m 20s): Yeah. I mean, really, if you think about it though, that hour where you sat there by yourself, you're getting paid 250 bucks an hour to do that. So that's not such a bad gig. Yeah. Excellent. Excellent way to look at it. Yeah. So we knocked that one off the list. Cha-ching. Yeah. That's all right. We're getting paid 250 bucks an hour. Now photography, you gotta think photographers are creatives. Correct? And Charlie, you're a creative guy. If you
Starting point is 00:12:07 had a photography business, do you think that you would be messaging people back about billing very often? So here is the thing with creatives. Oftentimes they are space cadets. They should not be doing their actual nuts and bolts of the business. Uh, and that's just, that's what you get, you know, you're dealing with some with probably a tattoo on their kneecap or something like that. I mean, I'm sorry to say this comes with the territory of, you know, those pot smokers and usually the better they are, the worse they are at responding. That's true. So it's very fair point miles.
Starting point is 00:12:44 If you are just have, if they have terrible business skills, you're going to get some really good pictures and if you don't, then you can have a problem. So my question is how good were those pictures? Well, you're bringing me to another point. We paid a final bill yesterday. She said, she said the day you pay the final bill, I'll release your first 300 photos of 600 and we have yet to see a picture. Oh, that's 24 hours. I'm going to say this. I don't like the, uh, holding your pictures hostage for the money. That's, that seems like at least do half upfront, you know? I don't know. Maybe there's the bell payments for. Right. The other thing is, is knowing, I know a few wedding photographers, she hasn't started editing those things yet. I'm being totally honest. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, that was her
Starting point is 00:13:40 saying she's not releasing them until you pay the final bill was her just trying to buy time. I'm not saying that my wife does this, Charlie, but is that how it goes? Is not, she's going to kill me for sure. But it was more so when she was doing wedding videos, she was like, um, so we can't do anything on Saturday because my wedding video is due tomorrow at noon and I have to do that. So that's, that's just the nature of the beast. I think in that industry, it's kind of like, uh, you've seen a thing called rapper time, Charlie rapper time. Rappers show up whenever they want. Oh, yeah. Kind of photography time is a thing. OK, OK. They send the photos when they're ready.
Starting point is 00:14:31 Yeah. I mean, as I as somebody who is often late, but not not out of ego, just out of fact that you have time blindness. No, I just my excuse. I grew up in a big family and we were always late for everything. So that translated to me. That's my excuse, I'm sticking with it. Not my fault, totally my fault, but not my fault. So now, here's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:14:56 The, them screwing you over on the billing standpoint, if we're talking about the catering person, all these, these fine line, like little, what do you call them? Hitting costs, that kind of a thing. What is the service fees? You know, like what do they actually do? And why do they exist? And I think people just put them in the contracts
Starting point is 00:15:19 hoping people don't read the contracts and say, well, it was a great wedding, you know? And this is a once in a while, two to three time in a lifetime kind of a deal. And they're taking advantage of that. They absolutely, and you know what's worse than weddings, funerals, oh my gosh, you want to get, you know, raked over the coals for a $10,000 casket,
Starting point is 00:15:43 you know, watch one of your loved ones die. I tell you what, I mean, and that $10,000 casket and watch one of your loved ones die. I tell you what I mean, and that's probably a nice casket, but it's just going in the ground. You know what I mean? Like the finish doesn't need to be that good on that thing. It's only going to be seen for a few hours. So yeah, my, uh, my dad passed away a few months ago. God rest his soul. He, uh, he saw the price of a casket and said, no chance. Burn me and put me in a, put me in an urn. I was thinking he was maybe going to be a coffee tin type of guy.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Earn does the job as well. I was, I was, yeah, he's a little, well, sorry for your loss with your dad as small, but I appreciate it. Yeah. You like how we, uh, you like how he's Midwest cheap to the end. God bless him. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, I, uh, I don't know. I just something about it. You know, you're, you're paying all this money. You think might, uh, might raise you up on the priority list a little bit. You know, the other thing, the
Starting point is 00:16:46 venue, they said, you know, Mike's and a TV screen were included if we wanted to do a slideshow. So we put together a slide show, we sent it over and they tack it on our 500 bucks for that. We say, well, we're not going to have the slideshow up then. They say, I, you know, we'll wave that one. What's the favor? This is all, this is all crazy negotiation. Just put in a bunch of stuff you know, people are going to negotiate for. So you look like a good guy and you just get the overpriced thing that you were going to go for to begin with. What, uh, what was the, was the wedding
Starting point is 00:17:17 venue? Was it like, uh, at a hotel? Was it at a barn? Like what kind of wedding venue are we talking? a hotel? Was it at a barn? Like what kind of wedding venue we talking? Yeah. So I, it was, it was a country club. So it was a little on the nicer side, but you know, they said they only do about four weddings a year when they're member events. They did a study and they told some students to make a half of the students were supposed to make one pottery piece for the semester. And they told the other students to do as many pottery pieces as they can in a semester. And tell you what, by the end of semester, the people who were doing as many as they could, their pots were better than the people who did one. So you got to maybe keep an eye
Starting point is 00:18:01 out for that. If they're only doing a few weddings a year, they're not gonna be very well trained in how to do a wedding. Miles, I didn't know where you were going with that at first, but now I see it and I like that you're reading studies. That's what I like about you. Yeah, I saw it on TikTok, I think. No, it's smart, but yeah,
Starting point is 00:18:18 the more reps you get, the better you are, hey. But also, doing a wedding at a country club. Uh, Oh, cause everybody sees that you got that money. Right. That is true. And so that's true. They're going to throw on those service fees, you know, they're going to take their sweet ass time. Say pay upfront, all that. Cause it's like, should we role play the country club here? Charlie? Yeah. Which one do you want to be? I'll be the event coordinator. Okay. You'll be the GM of the country club. Okay. Hey, it looks like we got a couple that are looking to get married here. How much, how much should we charge them? Do they know how much an annual
Starting point is 00:18:59 fee is? Is, is one of their family members a member here? Uh, no. What? And they, they want, you know, I mean, well, and then we got to put on, then we got to put on a non-member wedding. Yes. Yes. Which we go without. They'll talk it down. 15 grand. You can start high and they're going to talk it down.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's also, let's charge them for a slideshow. Oh yeah. And then we'll say, we'll throw that in for free. Yeah. Okay. That's also, let's charge them for a slide show. Oh yeah. And then we'll say, we'll throw that in for free. So we'll take that off right there. We will
Starting point is 00:19:30 then we're going to upcharge them for the non-member fee. Yeah. But we, we, we won't tell them that till like after the facts. Once it's done, hide that in the, in the fine print they're never going to read it. So do you think, ah, you know what? What's Jerry's should, should we give them a good experience? Their wedding day, they're already going to be stressed. We shouldn't stress them out, right? No, no, no? What's Jerry? Should should we give them a good experience? Their wedding day, they're already going to be stressed. We shouldn't stress them out, right? No, no, no. Let's stress them out the week before. Yes, because then they'll be like, I can't handle it.
Starting point is 00:19:52 Just throw money at it. Let's stress them out the week before. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then they'll forget by the time they get to the wedding that we ever stress them out at all. Make them sign a contract. They're not going to read it. No, no, no. By the way, what's Jerry doing? Jerry, the lawyer, get Jerry the lawyer over here. Have them type four to five pages of
Starting point is 00:20:08 just how about 40 to 50, 40 to 50 is better sound. Have it sound legal, but say absolutely nothing. Correct. 40, 50 per. All right. $50,000 wedding. Let's get these people itched. Is that how you think it went? That is almost verbatim the meetings we had with them. It's like a room. Did you get charged a non-member fee? No, I think I think we were able to negotiate that one out. We said, we said, cause we, we did a relatively quick engagement seven months, but we, we said, listen, you're not, you're not booked in seven months out. You're not going to get anyone in here. You're not going to get a member that's getting married
Starting point is 00:20:49 in that amount of time. I like what you do. We're, we're, we get that one knocked out. Yeah. No, we, we know what we had played our hand, right? But she, you know, it was just those ticky tax fees at the end. I, well, you know, I know why they're doing it. Then You know why they're doing it. You know why they're doing the Tiki tech fees? Because you were Tiki tacking them from the get go and they're Tiki tacking back. Turn it to a game of Tic Tac. Oh, Tiki tack on the toes. I got to tell you, Miles, even if he wasn't doing the Tic Tac, they probably still do the Tic Tac because that's how they make their money.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Oh, the Tic Tac. Yeah. They're not making a burger sales at the country club pool. I can tell you that much. And I'll say this. I'll say this as someone who worked at a country club once. There's a lot of money that you get from people. It's a lot of money in Tic Tac. There's a lot of money in that, that world. And they just say, well, it's a country club. They pay them. You're paying for the name. You're paying for the esteem. You're paying for the exclusivity., it's a country club. They pay them for your paying for the name. I'm paying for the esteem You're paying for the exclusivity and it's just a bunch of happy horse shit. I Think that the the next time you get married you and your wife you guys or for your you know renewal of your vows
Starting point is 00:21:58 Good say you you guys just find yourself a nice little tavern and You guys just find yourself a nice little tavern and two two bar stools sit next to each other and there will be no hidden In that but you should tip your bartender. Yeah. Well, here's the thing I told my wife I said let's find a VFW or American leisure something that's available on the weekend She shot that one down before I was even down on one knee. I Said let's let's save the money, let's just have a party. But we had to make it a pretty party, so. It's a cultural thing, man. It's not until we as a society, like look at weddings
Starting point is 00:22:34 and say, you know what? A house would be better. It's not until we all collectively do that, we're just gonna be going to the, doing these stupid ass tux rental things and just da da da da da da da, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:49 Well, that's the other thing, wedding dresses. I told my wife, I said, whatever you're spending on your wedding dress, I get to spend on my suit because I'm going to wear that thing more than once. And the second she got into the wedding shop, it must've just gone right out one ear because she came home and told me the price and I almost fainted on the spot.
Starting point is 00:23:09 Holy cow. The white dress for God's sakes. Ten grand? A little less. Seven? Under five. Oh, you know. Yeah. I said the same thing about my wedding suit and then I lost a bunch of weight and I can't wear it anyway. So I literally bought a wedding suit that I could wear in the future and then now it doesn't fit. You can go get a tailored and probably make a soup for your little guy. That's true. Yeah. The excess of like a small, small jacket. Oh man. Well, listen, we're sorry you got screwed over by the wedding industry. The good news is you're in good company with everybody else who ever got married. So the only way to save it is the club. Yeah. The only way to save it is a low. Hey, just think how Charlie feels. He paid money for
Starting point is 00:24:02 a wedding and then now he doesn't even have a wife. Yeah, there's a lot of things. It could be worse. It could be worse. Counting your blessings before they're hatched. Yeah, definitely. Where are you guys drinking today? We're at the garden grill and pub near the Bemidji area. Where are you at? Oh sure, I'm I'm over in Woodbury right now, Minnesota. Oh, not too far. Yeah, well enjoy the berries this time of year. Yeah, thank you. I hear they taste like.
Starting point is 00:24:35 Hey, I'll I'll let you get going. Make sure make sure you give a talking to whoever's on that on that phone line. All right. I will. We're sorry about that. We've already been giving them a chin a little bit. Yeah. Hey, no worries boys. Hey, take it easy. Have a good one. All right. Bye bye. It's tough cause you got, you got artists, you got people like DJs, photographers, DJ, DJ, but you know, there's a spectrum. They're on the spectrum and it's not necessarily high. DJs are on the spectrum of creativity. They are, you know, and catering and food is a lot of hard work. It's like, you understand
Starting point is 00:25:21 running a small business as I do too, that those are, those are big gigs and they want to get paid. They want to get paid by people. So you understand it from that standpoint, but on the other standpoint, it's like, let's buy a fricking house. What's so low? Like, what is the point of this? Yeah. Cause then you just get 200 people there and you're expecting them
Starting point is 00:25:45 without telling them that they should bring a gift that's worth at least seventy five dollars a person. Well, what's smart about the wedding industry, Charlie, they get them young, you know, culture is culture is, you know, trained young kids to be excited about their future wedding day someday. So when it comes wedding time, it's this is my dream since I was a young, and since I was a young gal,
Starting point is 00:26:09 and then they can just take advantage of that. I just wonder how many people get married because they put down deposits and they can't get that money back, you know? And they don't have that money, you know what I mean? Cause it's like a huge financial, it should just not be about the money, you know, but it is, it is nothing you can do about it.
Starting point is 00:26:30 There are worse problems in the world. So anyways, let's take another call. Oh, this is Morgan. Morgan, Morgan, Morgan. Why don't you belly up to the bar? What do you want to get off your chest today? Oh my gosh. I can't even believe I'm on. I want to talk about, so I just recently had a baby and my husband is congrats on the
Starting point is 00:27:00 sex. Thank you. Good job. Thank you. And so my husband and I are both from Minnesota and I'm a tried and true like Midwest gal, like grew up doing winter sports. So I know how to ski. I know how to skate. I know how to snowboard. And I want to teach all my daughter, all these awesome winter sports. And my husband doesn't know how to do any of that. He's never learned how to skate, never learned how to ski. Doesn't know how to snowboard. How do I convince them to do that? Or should I convince them to do that before?
Starting point is 00:27:38 Like my daughter gets older because I want to hurt it. Be able to do that stuff too. Yeah. She doesn't want her dad to be a loser. Just cause a guy doesn't really know how to ski or snowboard that well. Doesn't make them a Oh, it looks like we got another loser on this side of the bar. You know, I got, I grew up in Fargo, North Dakota, Charlie.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Tell me the closest ski hill from Fargo, North Dakota. All right. Well, I didn't learn on a, I grew up in Fargo, North Dakota. Charlie, tell me the closest ski hill from Fargo, North Dakota. All right. Well, I didn't learn on this. I grew up in Wisconsin. I didn't learn how to ski till I was like 18. A big family. You know, you're not you don't got the dollars to go skiing. Skating, though, is something that anyone can figure out.
Starting point is 00:28:19 There are skating ranks anywhere. And I will say this. I grew up with roller blades and rollerblading really taught me how to ski. So you can learn how to ski without spending a lot of money. You just get some rollerblades and go down Obama big hill, you know? I had my dad's old ice skates
Starting point is 00:28:43 and he had these hockey skates and then you can kind of learn that stuff you can get a lot of this stuff cheap enough you know yeah so I don't know why I'm even talking about it's it wait oh you brought up the the skiing thing but anyways yeah or or what you could do is teach them together you know yeah so then you're holding your kid's hand and then your husband's hand. That would be cute. That would be so you and your daughter are your husband and your daughter on the bunny Hill together. That's a great Christmas card photo. Isn't it? Or it's a great, like long, a video that somebody takes from a distance
Starting point is 00:29:23 and puts on Tik TOK and be like, look at this woman's teaching her husband and her kid at the same time. Dad, you can shame it. You can tell him that he's going to go viral if he doesn't learn. Cause you think it would kill his confidence a little bit if he's in a class though, with like all these little kids together and it's like him and my daughter. Here's how you got to be. You got to be, you got to pitch it to him. Like he's doing the plot of Billy Madison. He'll love that. Yeah. Does he, is he an athletic guy? Period. Does he do any athletics? Yeah, he is athletic. He played, he plays softball. That's an athletic. I've seen 400 pound guys playing softball does not count by what? Did
Starting point is 00:30:13 he play actual baseball at ever any point? Yeah. In high school he did. Okay. So he's an athletic guy. He just didn't grow up doing this cold, cold winter stuff. No, no, he never got introduced to it. And I feel like my family was super fortunate. My dad's a ski jumper. So like my dad's kind of crazy in that aspect. You know, dumping. Yeah. I mean, put yourself in his shoes. You got an intimidating ass family. Yeah. How is he supposed to just get up on a hill knowing that your dad's probably somewhere that just like judging him because you're for sure taking video of his first time down, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I guess you could say that is pretty intimidating because you know, my dad
Starting point is 00:31:01 was in the 1980 Olympics for ski jumping. Oh, for peace. Oh my gosh. 1980s you said? Yep. Miracle. That was that year. Is he buddies with those guys still or? Um, so he's, he doesn't like they ate every meal together. And, um, you know, they, he bug bumped with all of them. He doesn't stay in contact with them too much, but like he was there for the game. We have all the tickets. He has all the, um, I'm a Belia. Yeah. That is so intimidating for your poor husband. Is your husband from a different place from a non-cold weather place? No, he's from Cooner Appadge, Minnesota. So it's a suburb of Minneapolis. Oh, okay. Okay. So that's pretty
Starting point is 00:31:54 cool. Your, your dad is a Olympic ski jumper. Did he happen to take any hardware home or it was it just a really awesome thing that he was able to go. Yeah. You got any pawnables sitting around? No hardware, but he, you know, it was an awesome thing for him to be able to go. And we've got some other cool like stuff from him traveling all over. Yeah, that's awesome. So yeah, does he have the Olympic ring tattoo? No, but he has the, he actually has a ring. He has a U S Olympic ring. Oh, that's cool. I didn't know you got, I think that's cooler than a tattoo in my opinion. Yeah. You can take the ring off tattoo at some point would be like, like a saggy set of rings. It'll just be oval. Yeah. Yeah. Oh man. Well, um, does your husband seem like he might be interested in this or is he going
Starting point is 00:32:50 to need some convincing? I think he's going to need some convincing because he's been going for so long without, you know, like actually, you know, trying it. So he's like, well, why start now? You know, trying it. So he's like, well, why start now? You know, you know what? I think you're thinking about it all wrong. Charlie, when you were young, your dad would be working in the garage and what do you do? Get your ass out here. You're helping and he called it what clean the garage quality time. Oh, you didn't call it that. But that's what I was calling now. Yeah. Yeah. So you were doing quality time. Oh, you didn't call it that. But that's what I was putting
Starting point is 00:33:25 now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you were doing quality time with your dad. Fawn memories. I'm sure. Oh yeah. Very fun. You now have a one-on-one bond quality time thing to do with your daughter where your husband isn't there. Oh, it could be mommy, mommy, lady time. You know what I mean? It's like, this is a thing that you two do together. Yeah, that's, that's, that's a good way to put it. We definitely need more opportunities to like have one on one time. Cause we've been so busy with the baby. So we're trying to try and have some more, some time together alone. And maybe it's, it's a good date night thing. Correct. Oh wait. No, miles was saying the opposite. He was saying, Oh, he was saying
Starting point is 00:34:12 you with your daughter, your daughter spending, but we'll, we'll take it the way you're taking it too. We'll take it the way you're taking it. Oh yeah. Hey, how come you guys didn't do any of this while you were dating? Did you want him to do it or no? I did want to do it, but I think he's just like, you know, we've never had the chance to do it. Like if we were going to do a ski, normally when we do like trips and stuff, like, cause we would normally go like a ski trip or something, but we normally go to like warmer places now and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:34:50 It just hasn't really like come up. So I want to be able to teach my daughter this stuff, but yeah, we just, I guess we really hadn't had the time or opportunity to help. This would you be if he actually decided to take it up and he was a better skier than you after a little bit? I'd be so mad So I gotta take into that account as well dangle that you know You might be opening up a can of worms that you may not be love you may be like hey I wish I wouldn't have done that cuz now I'm pissed off cuz he's a better skier than me. Yeah. That's a good point. Skying is a tough one to learn later
Starting point is 00:35:29 on in life. How old is he? He's 33. Okay. All right. Yeah. Still a good time. Cause you, you don't want to be embarrassed on the bunny Hills and then you might try a bigger Hill and then you're just flying and it's tough tough to go ass over teakettle on a ski hill and yard sale and know how to deal with a yard sale. I had to learn that at a fairly old age respective to the others and you just got these little kids there you know just whizzing past you and I did a yard sale when I was in Colorado once and this little girl, she was seeing me put my skis back in the boots and she shouts, uh, your toes got to go in first bro from, from the, the, uh, chair stand. So it's really embarrassing if you don't know
Starting point is 00:36:21 what you're doing. There's nothing more intimidating than a young person who's really good at skiing or snowboarding. Yeah, and they're so good out there. I know. And it's like dangerous, you know, like you're up on a mountain. The only way to get down like you're kind of nervous. So as Michael Scott would say, all the people he knows that skis are dead. It's a dangerous sport. I love a good office quote
Starting point is 00:36:51 from you miles. That's got to be on our bingo. Hey, maybe he's not a skier. Maybe just have them spend some quality time with your dad and get them on the ski jump. Yeah. I sent them off that way. Throw them in the deep end. Have you ever skied before? Not, not since I was really, really little. I mean, that's gotta be one of the most terrifying things ever, Charlie. Oh, you couldn't pay me to do that. No, I tried one jump one time. Oh man. It did not end well, and it was a real baby jump I ran into my buddy No that the seeing that that's like How do you even practice for that? How do you go off that the first time? I?
Starting point is 00:37:39 Don't know I have no idea is there a big trampoline underneath, you know, I kind of even do it Nothing can prepare you for that. You just go. No, thank you. No, thank you. Well, we appreciate you calling in today that you got a lot of stuff to think about, you know, maybe just treat it as quality time with you and your daughter someday. Let him just have a few whiskies at the lodge and call it a day. Sounds good. Thank you guys. I appreciate your help. You betcha. We'll talk to you soon. Now. I went skiing with Anne's family. Yeah. Yeah. It was also like 40 pounds heavier in this. Yeah. And they're all bundling up to go skiing. Right. It's cold out. Yeah., I could have just been out there in a t-shirt and sweat because I'm just spending the whole time snow plowing all the way down.
Starting point is 00:38:28 Cause I'm just scared to eat shit. Oh, you're pizza-ing the whole way down. Is that what you're saying? Towards the end of the trip though, I started to figure out the little back and forth and I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm just scared to eat shit. Oh, you're pizzaing the whole way down? Is that what you're saying? Towards the end of the trip, though, I started to figure out the little back and forth and yeah, I gotta be honest with you. I've been doing it since I was 18 years old and I do it maybe one time a year, maybe less. I'm still not very confident, not very good.
Starting point is 00:38:59 I just. What's the point in breaking a bone just to ride down on skis? I think it's fun and you see some cool stuff, but yeah, I mean, it's like super expensive. I get why it's fun, but for me at the skill level that I'm at, I'm kind of just like, it's not necessarily worth it to get injured doing this, but you're an athletic guy and if you like with a little bit, you could like get get safe. I think that's all you got to do is get sick. Like, can I get down a hill if I find myself accidentally on this hill? And the answer for me for a long time was no, I'm still at that stage.
Starting point is 00:39:39 OK, I just got to an OK thing where I'd feel all right if I found myself on Black Diamond. Anyways. Take another one. Let's do it. All right, folks, it is time for a little fan mail. Fan mail? Fan mail, here's the mail that never fails.
Starting point is 00:39:57 It makes me wanna. I wake by tell when it comes, I wanna wail. Fan mail. I'm hoping you can help me with gift ideas from my dad, Randy. He's the ultimate Midwestern cliche. Born and raised up north, thinks a blizzard is good grilling weather,
Starting point is 00:40:16 has more Packers t-shirts than friends. You get the idea. Every year he gets us these ridiculous gifts, but insists he doesn't need anything, but I refuse to accept that. Got any ideas that aren't a six pack or a custom cheese tray? Well, Charlie, this is an easy one. This is Heather, a very stressed daughter, Heather.
Starting point is 00:40:39 How did she know I was going to suggest six pack and a custom cheese? But but if he doesn't want want that if they've already done that What should they get them Charlie? Hey, you know what's green? Christmas you know, this is green tippy cow shamrock mint, baby I'm I'm sucking down a little shamrock mint today. And if you got a Randy in your life You just don't know what to get them for a gift Make sure you get them a nice ice cold bottle and glass of tippy cow and tell Randy we says hi.
Starting point is 00:41:08 Nothing says holidays like a little tippy cow. Hell no. Cheers to you. Miles, Randy, cheers to you and Heather. Cheers to you and Heather. Before you give it to them, crack open that bottle, pour a little out for yourself. You earned it. Hey folks, as we dive deeper into winter, we all know accidents happen. They do miles.
Starting point is 00:41:27 You can't avoid them. Sometimes you give a slippity doodah, slippity day, go as over tea kettle and tomorrow becomes today. Exactly. And that's what I was going to say. Whether you're shoveling snow or taking a tumble, we'll try and get your holiday lights up. I know it's going to happen to you this year. You're hanging those Christmas lights. You might have a stumble and a fall, Charlie. I've seen your balance, but don't let those insurance companies push you around. You got to call Nicolay law when that happens. You see my balance after a couple of cocktails. I am very good at balancing, but if there's a steady wind, you never know. That's true. And there can be a lot of frustration when dealing with insurance claims, especially around the busy holiday season know. That's true. And there can be a lot of frustration when dealing with insurance claims, especially
Starting point is 00:42:06 around the busy holiday season, Charles. That's true, miles. It is a accident prone time of year. And so the importance of having someone you know, sorry, there's, it's important to have someone who knows the local landscape that's fighting for you, Charlie. So if you guys are injured this holiday season, call Nikolailaw at 1-855-NIKOLAY or visit Nikolailaw.com. And tell Russell we says hi.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Hey, this is Caleb. What's up, Caleb? How you doing, my guy? Doing good, how you doing? All real good. Belly up to the bar. Tell us what's on your mind. Hey, I'm just calling to let you, uh, Charlie miles know that to me and some of my, uh,
Starting point is 00:42:49 whole body's from college or building like a seven man, maybe plus tandem bicycle and seeing if you guys wanted to come on down or ride that when you're in town. Yeah, we, we've been collecting bikes around town and we're well done together and we're going to see how long of a bike we can make it ride. I just want to say as a former bike mechanic, I approve of this message and how many bike frame bongs did it take you to come up with this idea? Might I ask? Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:17 It's funny. I can't disclose. I bet I'm going to guess too secret formula. Yeah. Right. That's awesome. So are we doing, are we talking like a mountain or road bike frames or cause that? Oh yeah. I mean right now we have a really old like seventies road bike connected to a, you know, a mountain bike, you know, that was actually a full suspension, but we swapped it out since then, and you know, we're really open to any bikes. Really? You can do that with talking Huffies talking, talking all of them, but that's pretty, I
Starting point is 00:43:56 feel like it might. Oh, that's awesome. I got to see a picture of this. Do you guys have any pictures yet? Are you just in the drafting phase? Uh, we got, we got two, you know, so it's a tandem, actual tandem connected right now. Uh, you know, and we're trying to be putting a third one on sometime soon here the next coming week. And you know, if we can get more bikes, we can, we can get them done as soon as possible. Yeah. We got a picture of the tandem. We got welded up right now. Yeah. You should send that to the bellied up Instagram page. And as you keep adding more bikes, keep sending us updated pictures. We need more updates.
Starting point is 00:44:30 Then we should do like a full post of the progression for people to see. I think this is one of the most special things about the Midwest, the ingenuity that comes out of here. I mean, this is the place that brought you the trampoline miles. It's true. And the foam finger and the foam finger and also the chiropractor, a seven plus tandem bicycle. Now I will have to say some here, Charlie. It's been on my bucket
Starting point is 00:44:56 list for my life to talk to someone who's a pole vaulter. Is it? Yeah. So I am checking that box off today. Um, if I had to imagine in my head what a pole vaulter does in their spare time, it would be exactly this. A seven person tandem. You're just about right. It's like, you're crazy enough to run with a giant pole, fling yourself 20 feet the air and say land safely. I mean, you're doing tandem bicycle. You're doing crazy shit. Your spare time gets a drug. This guy's doing tandems for sure. Oh man. Have you made other crazy stuff or is this your first invention? Oh yeah, I'm trying to think. Well, we've been doing like pallet bars and you know, stuff around the house and you know,
Starting point is 00:45:54 we've taken old poles that we snapped and put them up and made stuff out of that. But the tandem, you know, thus far is, you know, we're just getting into the welding territory. So you know, the sky's the limit really. Wait. So you're just getting into welding territory. So you're first learning how to weld on something that could put somebody in the hospital. Is that right? Just going down a month, then the middle guy just falls off. No front tire to speak of. Yup. You got to remember Charlie. This is a pole vault
Starting point is 00:46:27 or we're not talking with a normal human here before you weld another bike onto this. I want you to do me a favor and type up a document that limits your liability in this whole situation. You can thank me for that later. All right. You might. How old are you? You're pretty young. Yeah, we're, we're all about, uh, 18 through, you know, 22 since we're all, you know, freshmen or seniors, you know, through in college. So that, that guys don't have any assets then. Yeah, absolutely not. The asset is the tandem itself. Well, that's what I was going with. If you were a little bit older, if you were like Charlie and I, no way are we going to be able to find seven friends to ride a bike with
Starting point is 00:47:10 us. Your friends, funny. You get older, your friends just like peeling away. You're like, you have to put your grandpa on the back at the end. If you and I were going to do a bicycle, maybe three deep and that's about it. Yeah. Well, so now is the time while you got a bunch of friends that are, uh, that, you know, haven't had the injuries. I feel like once you get to the age of 26, you start pulling things a little bit and, uh, Oh, hang on. We got the video. We got the video. We got the video of you guys welding in. Just looks like it's, Oh yeah. Right in the video. We got the video. We got the video of you guys welding in. Just looks like it's, oh yeah. Right in the driveway. Oh, that's cool. Also, I like the eye protection
Starting point is 00:47:53 you guys are wearing. Yeah. For God's sake, one, one dude's just one guy's got the helmet on. The other guy is just burning his retinas. He's just staring right at it. You see that and I like this dude up here holding the bike He's just looking away. No, he's the lookout, you know Yeah wire who's holding the thing without the eye protection, you know It's it's probably Gavin or Alex one of those two but everybody in that video is a pole vaulter. So I mean Yeah the pole vaulter house. What gets you guys into pole vaulting? What first inspired you for that?
Starting point is 00:48:33 I guess maybe not being the best at other events. So you gotta pick the one that's a little bit harder. And then once you get good at it, you're better than everybody else because everybody else is either too scared or not good enough to do it. So then you got to stick with it. What, what do you do for your package? I've seen a few pole vaulting videos where the package is the thing that, that touches the pole where the pole pole on pole.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Every time I see a pole vaulting video on the internet, I think he's coming down on the pole. And then when they don't, it's like a sigh of relief. It's a miracle. It's a miracle. Yeah. I mean, uh, you know, if the package has caused you to the problems, you just gotta make, you know, make sure everybody knows that's what knocked the bar down. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's actually street cred in the vaulting community and good way to lose the Olympics. Yeah. I would've won the Olympics, but I had too big of a package. Exactly. Now tell us, have you ever gotten a colonoscopy from the pole vault pole? Well, no, I luckily haven't, uh, you know, I just spent some cool falls and there was another, uh, Walter from our conference a couple of years ago. You
Starting point is 00:49:43 know, you might've seen the videos on the internet where, you know, he had a little bit of that going on, but it's, you know, it definitely leaves a mark. You know, that thing's coming down with some force. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. What happened to them in the video? I didn't see it. What can we look up to see the video? Uh, you know, pull Walter, you know, gets pulling the anus or something. It should have come up. It was on, you know, sports center and all that, you know, there's a good video of it out there. He took the poll, right? I think we call that the top 10. Oh, here it is. Here it is. Yeah. Yes. Oh yeah. Yeah. Wow. That is a full play it again. Oh, here's the pole and Oh no.
Starting point is 00:50:29 He cleared though. He cleared. He's going to the next round. How was, um, did, did, did you talk to, you know him, huh? Did it, um, how was his, his butt after that? Yeah. He had like a huge like ring bruise almost where like he almost got entailed by the pole since the top is another hollow. But you know, he recovered and came back. Yeah. There's like a few people getting this pole in the, yeah. Yeah. Go to the doctor and you're like doc, I need you to take a look at my, my, my booty. Yeah. And he's like, what happened? And then he takes a, and he's like what happened? And then he takes a look and he's like I was a pole vaulting accent. He looks at you like
Starting point is 00:51:10 Sure. Sure. Yeah, this is a pole vault You know, we're just experimenting. You're not the first person You had a rodent issue anyways, I think that however you go about it, um, that's a dangerous situation, man. Oh man. So you're going to get a patent for your seven person tandem bicycle. Um, maybe, I mean, we got to, maybe we got a couple of lawyer friends or something that can write us, you know, write us up a little up and you got to get a name for yet too. And you know, from there, yeah, I figured out you got any good names that he can name it. I was thinking about that too. Like the seven
Starting point is 00:51:54 deadly, some that rhymes with sins, the seven deadly wins isn't a win a type of bicycle. You call it the cat. Oh no. They call it the centipede. The seven deadly Schwinn's that's good. I like that. What's up? Seven daily Schwinn's. Do you have you got to have it all be all Schwinn's then, or at least at least just right. Yeah. Put the stickers on there. Yeah. The seven delish go to Walmart and peel the stickers off the bikes. Yeah. Or, or, or you can do like, I mean, it's very like human centipede. So you can like kind of mess with that whole situation there, you know? Yeah. I mean, some of these, some of these seats are pretty nuts
Starting point is 00:52:46 to both right now. I mean, you're basically sitting, sitting on the first person handlebars. So, you know, you know, it's basically human son to beat. Yeah. You guys kind of becoming the talk of the campus or no? Um, not quite yet. We've only, it's, it's new, to be honest, we just started it this week and, um, it's already been in've only it's, it's new, to be honest. We just started it this week and um, it's already been in and out for repairs, but I mean, as soon as we get, uh, I'd say four or five plus going and to get up to our mark of around seven or eight, Hey yeah, we're gonna, we better be on, you know, like the bar stools and whatnot of this campus. You know what I mean? Getting on the campus story and maybe in the paper or something, I got
Starting point is 00:53:23 a body who's in the press Speaker 0 4 1 2 3 4 before you release this, any other media outlets, when you start getting more bikes on this, you got to send it to us first so we can release it on the bellied up page. First, Charlie, we want to wear your biggest. Yeah. All you guys and hey, send us some stickers or someone throw them on some shirts. We want you guys wearing bellied up merch on this thing, bellied up to the centipede. Absolutely. Um, and we all should have come out and ride it. I'll come up and ride.
Starting point is 00:53:50 As long as you promise that that one dude who was doing the welding without the glasses is not the first bike. You can promise me that. You're going to be biased in November, Charlie. Oh, wait, where are you again? We're in the cross miles. You should hold on. So did you go to the October fest by chance? Of course. The October fest. You don't really get to opt out if you live in the cross. Yeah, it's true. Same did. So did another caller. Yeah. You have to keep an eye out for any dumps by the dumpster. And that's just a warning shot for you.
Starting point is 00:54:30 If you see two dumpsters next to each other. Yeah. Yeah. Third Street. Was that what it was? Yep. Guy. That sounds alright. Holy shit. Guy also got in trouble rounding third in the bathroom the night before. No kidding, in the bar, wow, yeah. Bouncers won't like that one. Nope, nope, that's not, that's a no-go right there. That's indecent exposure. Yeah, they're basically the umpire at that point. Yep, yep, that's, you're out. You're out right there in that. Out at third.
Starting point is 00:55:01 Yep. Out at third. Pfft. Not safe. I mean, safer. Safer. Safer. Not safe. I mean, safe-er. Safer. Safer, but definitely not safe. So you can still get the oral herp and kicked out that way. Anyways, this is really exciting.
Starting point is 00:55:15 Please keep us posted. And yes, when I come to La Crosse, I would love to get on that bike and give her a go. So there you go. You got roughly a month, okay? So a and give her a go. So there you go. You got roughly a month. Okay. So a little less than a month. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I'll do it. I appreciate Miles and Charlie. Thanks for taking my call. You bet. This is fun. We'll see you soon. Take care of y'all. Bye bye.
Starting point is 00:55:40 I love it. You should actually go and ride it. I absolutely will. Because what's funny is, is when this comes out, you have already been in La Crosse. Yeah. And then we can post a video of you riding. That would be great, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:52 You should come down too. Okay. You'd be on it as well. I'm not doing this alone. And we're definitely not going down a hill first go. No, God no. See, these guys also, I don't know that they, I think this is their first time welding
Starting point is 00:56:06 They're learning how to weld on this thing and unfortunately for this You're really gonna want a decent someone who Someone who knows something I think I don't know I've never done it But it does seem like some you just you gotta remember though like these are a pole vaulters You they don't give you old. There's that dude just looking got to remember, though, like these are a pole vultures. They don't give a shit. Whole voltage that dude just looking at it, you know, I mean, staring directly at the weld. Yeah. And sparks are just flying like I respect it, though.
Starting point is 00:56:37 Yeah, it's like tow truck drivers and pole vultures are cut from the same cloth. I know that doesn't really make sense, but they're just fearless. I feel like I do tow truck. I got my car towed one time, got repoed and my truck guy repoed. Why did you told that? I feel like before at least you told me that. Sorry. Thanks. So, but I had to pay your bill. Yeah. I just wasn't answering my phone and uh, this guy was awesome. Yeah. You know, Tyler has a bit of like, they'll show up. It'll be negative 10 degrees out t-shirt jeans, smoking a cigarette right on the side of like a glare ice highway. They don't give a shit. They pop out of there. They're on the ground hooking shit up.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Yeah. Give a rat's ass. No, no. The amount of near death misses of of your. And not only that, but trying to repose someone's car. I mean, people pull guns on you. Yeah, you know, it's gnarly business. Should we do another call? Charlie, I think that's it. Is that it? That's it. That's it. Ladies and gentlemen, for another episode of the bellied up podcast. What a blast miles. It's been here with you here at the garden
Starting point is 00:57:56 grill and pub. Um, wonderful times and, um, make sure that, uh, folks you get these, uh, road hunt for ditch chickens the merch the whole shebang. The belly up shirt the whole thing. Yeah. Well guys we'll see in the next one make sure to tip your bartender. Bye bye now.

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