Bellied Up - We Finally Figured Out What a Real Sport Is #189

Episode Date: February 26, 2026

We're at Hooligans Bar and Grill in West Fargo, ND. First caller Paul has an unpopular opinion about sports. He wants to get to the bottom of what is and isn't a sport. Then, Ben tells us about his expereince entering a bikini contest for extra cash. Get $10 Off at BRUNT with code belliedup at https:// www.bruntworkwear.com/belliedup #Bruntpod #ad

Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Bellied Up podcast. I'm here with my buddy Charlie. Bang, pow, poo, pop. We are here at Hooligans Bar and Grill here in West Fargo. And we are hanging out. Charlie, what I notice is they have all these NFL helmets up top. Yeah, I really like that about Huligans here because, you know, there's nothing quite like looking at an actual NFL helmet. They're like legitimate helmets.

But I also like that they're like, hey, we love football, but we're not willing to commit to one team. And also not willing to commit to all the teams. It's pretty much one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, yeah, thirteen, of the thirty two teams. They're not a fan of the Detroit Lions here. I see. There's one right there. Oh, shoot. Okay. So never mind. I'm an idiot. That's the MC North right there.

Jared, are these all NFC teams? Oh, and then they're going by division. Ah, they are all in South. Well, and also there's a Ravens helmet that's signed by, who's the guy that can go Disney one? Regulus. Regulus signed a Ravens helmet right there. Check that out.

Isn't that cool? It's pretty sweet. Oh, we can touch it? Can Charlie put it on? Can Charlie put it on? Charlie put it on or not. I got a pretty big head. Yeah, I got a big head.

Now, this is not an actual, so I'm wrong. This is not an actual, not an actual helmet there, Miles. There's no batting on the inside. I know. It's like, no wonder these guys are getting concussions.

This thing's a tin dome here. I mean, that's the helmets that I used to have growing up basically. Yeah. They have the little bladder. They stick the, the thing in the top,

and then they go, the little blue. And they would just make it as tight as possible. And every time you took it off, just every part of your head was beat red. Yeah. And then you just had that little hair outline on the top of your head, right? Yeah. A little web. Yeah. So yeah. And what I also like about hooligans is our bartender today. His name is Goose. And he's got a, he's got a tattoo. He showed me the tattoo after he said, hey, goose, what's your tattoo? It's a goose. And it's in biking.

A very on brand. A goose with a Vikings helmet. Can we see it, Goose? Can we just show the people that tat? So it's a goose talking into a tin can. My sister has the matching one, but she's listening into it. Got it. Oh, your sister's got the matching tattoo.

We're in a Twins jersey with a Viking helmet on. That's a very thoughtful tattoo. Goose, I like that. I appreciate that. Thank you. So that's cool that the goose is holding a tin can with a string. and then his sister has another tattoo so it's like their tattoos

are talking to each other. See, I, Miles, I always wanted to like get a tattoo, you know? You and I want to do one like that? Should we? We could. I've never, so I've never just had something meaningful enough

in my life to get a tattoo of. Yeah, and I'm doubly on top of that for me. Yeah. Commitment issues. That's it. The tattoo is a very big commitment. A hundred percent. And it's like, for what?

Like, there's no day I'm waking up. Like, I want a lifelong commitment. you know sounds like a divorce guy talking but i wish you would have learned that before he got married hey you know we should have gotten a tattoo a lot cheaper a lot cheaper lot cheaper but you know miles we live and we learn uh have you ever do you go through a phase though as a kid where you like a tattoo would be cool oh yeah dude i was drawing him up were you Yeah, I don't even remember what they were, but, you know, you know, probably some, because it was also the time of like Bible verses. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was very popular back in like the 2000s. You were this close to having barbed wire with a Bible verse around it. Correct. That had been disastrous. Yeah. My mom actually said she would buy me one. Really? Yeah.

If you got a Bible verse tattooed on me? No, no, no, no, no, just anything. A tattoo? And I never took her up on it. Dude, that's crazy. my parents were like you're never getting a tattoo. You're like, my dad always said, you pick the location of the first tattoo.

I picked the location of your second tattoo. Where do you think you would have picked? Taint. Okay. The most painful place for a Tatt. But also, it could be worse. No one's going to see that.

Worse than a Taint Tatt? No one's going to see that. I don't even think they do taint tats. Yeah, they would. You think they tatt a Tate? They'll tat anywhere. Look it up, Jared. They're inside of your mouth.

Yeah, but that's not a taint. Jared, see if anyone's got a taint hat out there. We're not Googling that. Give it a Google, Jared. That's Miles' company computer, right? You can give it a Google. Charlie, what? This weekend, I earned a new merit badge in Dadhood.

A new... Okay. Steps. Well, the merit badge is called Dealing with a kid with the stomach flu. Oh, no. Wait this weekend? Yeah. Like when?

Like you're not going to get it. I can see a look in your eyes that you're worried that I've been exposed to the stomach flu before you are. Yeah. I mean, I never got it. Truthful. Right. What's the incubation period? Jared, can we see what the incubation period is on stomach full?

He had it for 24 hours. But my child decided to conveniently wait until we were in my wife's car. to projectile vomit everywhere. 12, 48 hours. Okay, so when was his vomit? It's been at least 72. Okay. Okay.

Then we're cool. And we're cool. So it's, you know, like, of course that's where he picks to do it. Of course. Well, it's like, why couldn't he just do it on the like the luxury vinyl plank in the living in the kitchen that's easy to wipe up, you know? Luxury vinyl plank. LVP. LVP. I don't like it.

Fancy. Basically like, you know, you can't afford real hardwoods. Yeah. You get the LVP. But you're not, you know, it's not Linoleum. Yeah, it's a step up. Step up from Linoleum and if you're going to bomb on it, it's not going to get, it's not going to seep into the wood. Not going to get those little cracks.

Correct. So that's what I would, he did puke on that on the LVP later. Okay. But as we mentioned, that's an easy cleanup job. Yep. And then the final one, we, we, we, we, we, we, learned our lesson. So he had three pukes over 24 hours, car, floor, last one, we got him to the sink. Oh, dude. Let's go. Nice. What was the warning sign that he was about to bomb?

Okay. Yeah. So he's pretty recognizable. Yeah. He also, you know, right before he starts acting a little strange, you know. Yeah. It's really weird, but then he would, you would puke and then he would just like smile. Which I think is like insult to injury. It's like, oh, there's vomit all over the car. But he's like, I felt good to get those demons out of me. And then he's just sitting there smiling at you. Yeah. You know, I get it though.

I get it. Don't you feel you have a little post-post-vom high, you know? Yeah, not always. Did you put a tarp in his playpen just in case? We should have. Also, playpen. is a is I feel like that's an old term what do you call now um well like it would be like you just don't I just feel like you don't put kids in a play pen anymore why not because he just let them play on the

full I don't know yeah but if you got if you're not watching them you put them in the play pen without chokeables so now they call it a pack and play a pack and play yeah well that's who cares about that it's a pen for your child no I know it's just funny because I haven't heard play pet in a long time. Oh, really? See, yeah, that's me as a 90s kid, you know? That's a guy without kids. Do you call it a nookie?

Basically calling your kid a pig at that point. Yeah, I mean, they're cattle. Pig pen. They're cattle. At that point, not free range, you know. Do you call a binkie a nooky or a binkie? We just call it a pacifier. Passifier.

We call a nooky growing up, and then I grew up to learn that was an erotic term. My parents. Really? Yeah, nooky. I did it all for the nookies. So you can take that nookie and stick it up here. Yeah. Stick it up here.

Yeah. You know that's not? Yeah. Yeah. My parents used to call them pluggers. Pluggers? I like that more. Plug them up.

Plug them up. Plug them up. Plug her. Shut the hell up. Does the pass fire ever fall on the ground? You lick it stick in your kid's mouth. I've done that. So what is that dude?

Is there science backed for licking it clean? I mean, no. I don't know. Okay. I just do it because I've seen other people do. it. My kid doesn't have pass fire anymore though. Oh, he doesn't? No. Wow. How old do you get rid of the pacifier? Well, we tried to do it at a year. So it turns out that like it's much easier if you just do it at like six months. Right. Because then he doesn't get it. He's not attached to it.

And we miss that window. And so then it was a little bit harder. Okay. Um, so yeah, it was, uh, quite the weekend for, uh, for me experiencing that. Because, He's like thrown up, but it was kind of like more like spit up. And I think it was just like he was just a little car sick before. Yeah. Well, this time he was actually sick. And I tell you what, parenting rules. There's two places that I think parenting rules just go out the window.

And it's one on an airplane and two, when your kid is sick. Yeah. Like, do you mean by that like that you just, you lost your decorum and what to do? Well, it's just like, hey, you just want to watch TV. Oh, okay. here. I see, I see.

Oh, okay. You gave up a little bit in that moment. You're like, you're going through enough, kid. All of your principles and values as a parent just kind of go out the window and you're just in survival mode.

Yeah. So. Yeah. I tell you what, though. What's that? You're pretty excited for work on Monday when your kid has the flu over the weekend. You're ready to go.

You're like, bye, honey. Have a good day. So, yeah. SpongeBob meme where he's got his hand on the thing going. So. Hopefully he doesn't puke again today. Yeah.

I, I, I, um, is it like, is he, uh, for sure good though? Like,

are you like, because we're out of the woods. You're out of the woods. We're out of the woods. Okay. Well, good. Good.

I'm glad. I'm glad you had that. So Charlie, you know, I've asked you before about kids and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Does this conversation make you want kids less or more in the future?

Or the same? Oh, about the same. I'm, I'm, you know, you forget Miles. It's the second oldest of 12 kids. You've seen it all. I've had like five. Yeah, yeah. I'd be on my six kids, you know.

Okay. Not that I raised them. They kept me up, you know. That's a great point, Charlie. How did you do on the first five? Did they turn out okay? Um, no, but you know, they've got, they're pretty, they're well adjusted. As someone who has 11 siblings?

Yeah, 11. You have 11 siblings. You raised five of them. What did you learn with your first five that if you do have a child someday that you're going to fix for the sixth one? This is a really good question, Miles. Really good question. Um, when, when I say I raised them, I was, let's just assume for the sake of this segment here that you raised. Okay.

So when I raise these kids, what I'll tell you is there was a lot of letting them do it on themselves, but letting them find out for themselves, you know? Like they, I see them going for a hot stove. I'm like, well, I could tell them no 10 times or just let them do it once. Okay. And you were a fuck around find out older siblings slash parent. Yeah, I was like, oh, this isn't going to be good. I'll tell you some things I regret, though, Miles. We got a little shelf right above the fireplace.

Some might call the mantle. And once the kids get able to sit on their own, you know, they can sit on their own, well, good sitters. That's when I would pick them up, put them on the mantle, and just leave the room. And I think that may have created lasting emotional damage in a lot of my younger siblings. So I think I would not do that. Okay. That's one thing I learned. You would avoid putting kids on the mantle and turn the fireplace on. I didn't turn the fireplace on. The fireplace was already on. And, um, but it didn't heat up the wall. They didn't heat up the wall. They look cold, you know. Yeah, they were fine. It was as a punishment. Did you invent elf on the shelf? Is that the same?

This was before elf on the shelf. So it could have been. You were on to something. I think I was on to something. So how would they get down? They would cry enough to where one of my other siblings would get them down or I would go and get them down if I was going to get in trouble. All sorts of things could have happened in there. I don't really remember. Yeah, I mean, that's somewhat cruel.

Yeah, it's a little cruel. I'm not going to lie, but my brain wasn't fully formed yet. You know, I was just, you know, we wouldn't, but we also had a lot of fun, you know, like we go sledding and all that, you know. What else did you do wrong? Well, you can't, you can't teach them things and expect them to not do those things to you. Got it.

Right? Like a little shoe lace tying situation. You can't expect to teach them to do that your brother's shoes and then your shoes don't get tied to the chair, you know? You can't expect them to cover for you, you know, know if like, hey, I'm not supposed to be leaving the house right now, but it's really hard to get that level of trust if you put them on the mantle. So you really got to think these things through. Okay. You know? Yeah, yeah. Because what's most important in life is that you don't get

caught doing bad stuff. And so if that means that you don't stick your siblings on the mantle or your kids in the mantle for later on. In my defense, some of them really like being on the mantle. Like that's how I got started with it. Charlie walks in, all right, kids, I'm babysitting. Who wants to play mantle?

I'm like, me, me, because they thought it was funny. They'd be like, no, don't leave, don't leave.

I'd be like, I'm gone. I'm gone. And then they would laugh. And I go get to. And then you go outside and smoke a blunt out back or what? No, I wasn't at blunt smoking age miles.

That was, I was a kid. I was nine years old, you know? I was imagining you're like 15. Oh, no. I mean, I probably did have 15, but I, you know, is just a little mess around, you know. But that's how it was in my family. There was a lot of rough housing and whatnot and just. I bet. I imagine you in high school, you were a big cologne guy. I did try some clone. Especially after hanging out with your buddies. I did try some clone. It was axed body spray miles. Okay. Well, not cologne. No, it was axed body spray. And usually it was to eliminate certain smells from the bowling alley. Back in my high school days, Miles, you could smoke cigarettes at George Webb's inside. Yeah.

Inside. Could you smoke cigarettes inside back in your day? In one of my days. Okay. I was younger probably than you. I mean, I remember smoking and non-smoking sections in restaurants. Wow, really? Yeah. You were breaking the law.

What do you mean? Smoking in a non-smoking section? No. No, no, no. When I was a kid, I remember walking to a restaurant and they would be like, Do you want to sit in the smoking or non-smoking section? Oh, I thought you said you were smoking yourself. You ever smoked a cigarette miles?

I have. Okay. Does your mom know that? I don't know. She does now. She does now. How do you know to stay away from it if you don't even know what it is? That's true.

How do you know the stove's hot if you don't put your hand on it? You know, people can tell you, hey, that's hot. But, I mean, come on. You're really going to believe everyone everything says? I wouldn't. like I said with my siblings you can learn a lot easier just by doing experience true you know

and nobody nobody ever got in any serious hurts you know so I was looking out for my siblings I now feel a little guilty for it does sound a little cruel the whole mantle thing now that I say it out loud yeah but cruelty now

and cruelty in the 90s was way different oh it was way different like all my friends were putting their siblings on the mantle back then. You kind of had a little bit of a crew you ran with that were mantle. It was like you guys were the mantle boys. Yeah. The nice thing too about the mantle boys is if we were out there shooting hoops and I wasn't doing so hot,

I could come home and get that confidence back right away. And just put your siblings on the mantle. No, no. I was just saying play basketball against them. Okay, got it. Yeah. I don't know if you're taking it out on your siblings.

Just be like, you know what? I lost a fucking Billy Bob. Come here. You're going on the mantle. No, I wasn't that kind of a fella. No, but they'd be playing basketball outside, so then I'd come out and, like, you know, show them I could do a reverse layup. They thought was pretty cool. Built up that confidence again.

I think that's all I got back in the name. I don't even think you can do a reverse layup today. Are you kidding me, dude? I taught call up Ellie right now. I taught her I'd do a reverse layup. And Betsy. I'm just not buying it. Are you buying it, Jared?

A reverse layup is not that hard. Are you, are you messing? with me? Is that good? Is a reverse guy up good? I imagine if you attempted a reverse layup 10 times, you're successfully doing it three times. No, false.

That was my move back in my bed. I don't need to want you. You want to, you want to bet on this? I would like to bet you. You got a hoop in your office, don't you? And if we are betting, I would, I'll give you, I'll give you one more. I'll say 40% of the time you're making it 60% of time you're failing. Do you have a hoop at your office? We do not.

So that ends this. All right. Let's take some colors. Let's do it. Let's take some callers. All right, guys. We are recording this batch of episodes in Fargo, which means every car in the parking lock sounds like it's fighting for its life when you start it and the roads look dry.

It's actually straight ice. I think they call that black ice, Charlie. I think that you can't even see it. When you have no idea, it's there until. You know, your cruise in a long thing and everything's fine. and then somebody taps their brakes and suddenly everyone's sliding around like bumper cars at the county fair. You know. I love bumper cars at the county fair, but only if it's not my bumper car miles.

Yeah, not in real life. Yeah. One second, it's normal winter driving. The next, it's slow motion fender bender or someone spinning into the ditch. Fargo winter or Milwaukee winter for that matter. Sure. call to handle the mess and fight for what is fair that's true miles just give russell nicolay a call he's the man with the beard ladies and gentlemen nicolay 1 855 nicolay miles can i can i just borrow this boot real

quick yeah go ahead take my boot right off my foot these are pretty sick you know what i'm jealous because you got your brunt package before i did um and i got to tell you actually i do I think it came in, but then I forgot to bring it. But it just came in. I was out of town. But I am excited to get myself some of these boots because look at these suckers. Miles, they look comfortable. They are very comfortable.

This one's got the comp toe, the like steel toe. Feel that. Yeah. I want you to try and break it, Charlie. Oh, yeah. That's the microphone test. It's not messing around right there. That's not going anywhere.

That's good. And it gives you a little extra lift, too, miles. This gives you another inch. And everyone knows that next year inch goes a long way. Sure does. Yes, it does. Sure does. So guys, Brunt spent sponsor in this podcast, I've been wearing the gear.

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And just think about what you can do with that extra 10 bucks, Miles. 10% or 10 bucks? 10%? 10%? 10 bucks. 10 bucks. It's 10%. Yeah.

I'm glad I got that clarification. But Miles, all the things you can do with $10 these days, you put a few of those, you buy a few things. You set all those $10 aside, you can get yourself a second pair of boots. You put in the S&P 500. seven years is going to be 20 bucks and then if another seven years it's going to be 40 and then another seven it's going to be 80 and another seven it'll be 160 look at the brain on miles next thing you know in 30 years you save 10 bucks on brunt that's great that's pretty in reality you made 150 bucks I I lost you

with the math but I'm excited about it miles so guys go to brunt workware.com check out everything they got really high quality. good stuff. I'm enjoying it. Charlie's enjoying it. Use code bellied up. Hi, Paul. This is Miles and Charlie from the Bellied Up podcast. Paul, it's Charlie. Nice to meet you. Nice to meet you too, guys. Where are you guys bellied up today? What's you drinking? We're at Hooligans in West Fargo, North Dakota. Where are you at? Oh, I'm in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. Oh, Lancaster. Is that how you actually talk or were you just doing the Midwest accent just to make us feel good? No, I grew up in like Northern Illinois.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, right there in McHenry. In McHenry? Yeah. Oh, cool. You ever get up to Wisconsin? Oh, Charlie. I think I refer to myself more as like from Wisconsin than Illinois because

like I I Charlie I'm right there with you when it comes to the packers you know good good like I'm I'm right there with you you know and like the last couple of podcasts there's been guys coming on giving you a hard time about it and do you know what I'm right there with you man we got next year thank you Paul thank you Paul I appreciate that that that actually I needed that today and um and you were there for me so I appreciate you

since we're recording this the day after the Super Bowl yeah well Charlie really needed this it's still a little sore still a little sore we got we got next here but like you know i like the bruins too you know my favorite food in the world is a brat you know good i call it a buggler not a damn water fountain real i don't i don't think i'm a fit okay no i i wasn't going to call you a fib at all pa just want to let you know it's a safe space here at the bellied up podcast and speaking of safe spaces paul we heard that you have an unpopular opinion. Oh my gosh. Yes. And I need to get this out. And that's why I called you guys. Okay. So I got to break this down for you so that you guys get it. All right? All right. So sports, you know, and there's

sports. All right. Sports. You know sports, right, Charlie? I've heard of them. Yeah. Yeah. It's this new thing I think that's going around. It's called athletic activities. Yeah. But more slang term, there's sports. balls. Yeah. All right, Paul. What about these sports? Okay. I think that there needs to be a distinction between sports.

I'm going to start this off by saying that thinking like gymnastics people and such, they work hard and that's the sport. However, I think because you got points-based sports and like sports that like there's more subjectiveness to it, you know, they need to have a distinction. So like, Charlie, me and you, we go to a Packers game, you know? And neither one of us know the score of the game. but we both watch it and we check at the scoreboard at the end of the game and we realized that the Packers like just fucking stomp the Bears, you know?

Right. Yeah. Because we watch the game. We know what happens. Yeah. You know? Right. Miles.

Yeah. So where that argument falls a little bit of a part is if you just watch the game and you just watch like how good both teams are and you didn't know what the score was, you could get that wrong at the end because of the way that sports work is just because someone's playing better doesn't equal that they win the game no but you can you can keep track at the points is what my god so you're going like you're keeping book like for a baseball game but at a football game exactly but like my so why did you why do you and charlie have to why couldn't you just say that the person who keeps the score on the scoreboard is keeping the score well well because i don't think you want

to trust Charlie with keeping score at a football game because you're going to miss some points. Paul, I don't normally agree with Miles but on this one I'm definitely agreeing with them on that. Paul, I'm confused. I'm honestly confused by your point here even though you're talking about. This is just

the example. So then me and Miles, we go to and we watch like ice skating, you know. Which we would do. Paul, you and I, you know, we're big ice skating guys. Yeah. And like I think that the that the ice skater, like, they did good.

They get an 8.2. Miles may disagree with us. And they might think 8.5, you know. And then the judges come out and the, they actually fucked up and they got a 6.7, you know? So. Yeah. Because we, because there's a points based system in a more subjective way, I think that sports should be classified into two categories of aggregate sports where it's points based. and pageantry sports,

which is subjectivity. Okay. Okay. So boxing, would boxing be? Pagintry. Pageantry. See that?

Can you imagine, Paul? I want you to tell the boxers that it's a pageantry sport. I just want to watch. That's my new sport. It's watching you go up to each boxer and telling them, hey, guys, this is actually a pageantry sport. Just so you know.

I just wanted to let you know that. See what happens. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I like that. And like, because that is one of the complaints with a thing like gymnastics, you know.

Because like in reality, the gymnasts could all just, like, let's say they're doing vault, right? You know, where they run and they jump and they flip off of the little thing, right? I know what a vault is. Wow. I forget. It's been a while since they've seen you. I forget you just have this constant.

look of confusion on your face and that's just like regular state. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry. I should have known. Yeah. Some of my wrinkles are starting to stay now. You know, they could, essentially all the gymnasts could just stick it to the judges and all just fault and not do their vault. And then they all would get first place. Do you know what I mean?

Well, they would all have to come to do with the agreement that none of them would do that. And then one would still get first place, though. sounds actually like a good idea for a movie about gymnastics does it yeah what would you call it probably stick it stick it stick it to stick it to the honestly I don't think that's going to be a very good movie you don't think so no I think it would be great well see I think a lot of people would watch that yeah why don't you make it okay I will

you'll be the you'll be the star of the show I'll Well, it would probably be female-based show is what I would think in. Why? Because it's a high, anyways. Boys could do gymnastics, too. Yeah. So before we go any further, Charlie, you do know that there is a movie with that exact plot named Stick It, right?

No, I don't, Miles. I didn't know. You say that like, Paul, did you know about Stick It? Oh, hell no. Okay. Miles, what are you doing watching these? esoteric films. Sticket? Jared, have you heard of Stickett?

Really? Google Stick it. I think you... I think you've seen the movie stick it before. Goose has seen it. I've seen it. Oh, you've seen it. Goose knows about this movie Stick It.

It's a movie about gymnastics? Yeah, where they stick it to the judges. That's why it's called Stickin. Really? I thought you guys are catching on... Yeah, it's like... Yeah, it's like a play on words. my gosh. Yeah, what's the around tomato score on that? I'm guessing 52, maybe 40. 30%. 30%. Yeah,

it sounds like a terrible plot as you were explaining it. I was like, who's going to watch that? So, well, you don't like it. I think you might be the only person in the world that's seen that movie. Jake, have you seen Stickin? Audience score is 73%. Bring it on. It's so much different than Stick it. Bring it on another pageantry sport. Um, audience score is 73%. Have you ever seen the movie? stick it before. She's seen it. Did you like it? Bring it on is better. Okay.

So see, I'm not lying here. No, I mean, that's cool. Sweet. So anyway, sorry, Paul. Paul, we got off track. And I, the bit failed because no one got what I was doing. So there's some listeners out there have seen the movie. You just got to start a podcast with

27-year-old girls. And then it'll really hit. Women. Paul, is that your, so that's your, that's your controversial take here is create my controversial take. Like sports needs to be aggregate sports and patch. All right. I got a, I'm going to put a hole again in your little argument here. What about sports that are not purely objective?

Because if you took football, there's no way you can say it's purely objective because the refs can call pass interference at their discretion, which could change the entire part of the game, which is them judging the game just like gymnastics. Boy, you do have coaches that can throw a red flag. Not on a pass. Not on a pass interference. I wish they could. Packers season will look much different, honestly, if we could.

Maybe Paul, that should be your unpopular. Do you think they should be able to throw red flag for passing appearance? They tried it, didn't they? And it didn't work very well. Oh, why? Oh, because it's so subjective. It's very subjective. That's true.

Um, you know, basketball, the refs can, they can derail an entire game. They can call any foul. They don't have to call fouls. Well, Miles is what we're going to do. We're just going to use AI to coach and to, uh, ref everything. Yeah, we could do that. Charlie, you'd be on board of that. Oh, yeah.

Um, yeah. So here's another question. question two paul this is a slippery slope so then you get into the all right so you have aggregate sports you have pageantry sports and then you have activities right so uh like darts is an activity right but a pretty that darts of all the ones but darts is the most objective so is it more of a sport than basketball is a sports is a sport darts is absolutely a sport you know that well i'm saying it's probably an activity no it's a sport Is chess a sport or an activity?

Chess is an activity. Okay. So what's the difference between darts and chess? Miles, can the joint movement of darts is significant, but joint movement in chess, not significant. You need... Okay, so you're saying a physical... A hand-eye coordination.

Okay. So you're saying video games are a sport? No. Video games are not a sport. Hand-eye coordination. But no physical contribution to that. It's just hand motions. It's got to involve more than your hands.

No, don't even do it with darts. So now you're saying it has to involve more major joints. Yeah, I need, I need. You're judging sports based off how many major joints are involved. Precisely. Got it. You need at least two major joints to be considered a sport. I actually, that's actually some of the best, that's maybe the best argument I've actually

heard. Thank you. Because people debate this all. the time on the internet on what's the sport or not that's the best i've heard yeah paul what do you think of that i i i think charlie's right on the money there you need to be able to move at least a couple joints you know yeah i think i think it's actually holding up yeah let's try it from here on out anytime anyone anyone want to dispute a sport you call us up and we'll put through the test yeah put through the ringer um so what do you want to do about pageantry sports here paul

well i just wanted to get the word out you know because i had the idea and like i was just like man because it all started where oh gosh a friend of mine was like oh yeah like gymnastics she wanted to watch gymnastics rather than something else that i wanted to watch it forget what was when my second kid was born and i was like no i don't want to watch this this is just all subjective i don't like this you know i don't know who's freaking winning or not and yeah we got on a whole big art I was like, it should be called to just a pageantry sport. Now, I think what we could do to help fix the pageantry sports is just have more judges so that you get a more accurate read of judging.

You know what I mean? Only one is like, you know, a little bit of more fairness, you know, just because, you know, one lady, she wears like, you know, light blue, another one wears red and then then, you know, one of the judges doesn't like red, you know, they go for the blue one, you know. Dude, you were, you will love the movie sticking. Dude, you would love it. Part of what spurred the whole catalyst of sticking it to the judges because one of the girls' bra strap was showing in her leotard and she got deducted for it.

Really? Yeah. Well, she should have known that you're not having your bra strap show and she should have known that as is a season gym. Was she a season gymnast? Yeah. It's clearly written the rules. It was an accident though.

Well. It had nothing to do with her performance. You know what else is an accident, Miles? Pass interference. So I think we should also, I think we should put this in a little clip here and leave it up to the fans to decide. So guys, what do you think?

Should there be two different variations of sports? Should there be regular sports and pageantry sports? Also, do we just call regular sports? or do we have a qualifier for the regular sports miles or paul aggregate aggregate sports and pageantry sports yeah you go all right okay so here's the here's the flow chart of sports and activities so you start with said thing right if it involves um physical ability and also includes more than two or more major joints. It becomes a sport.

Yeah. Otherwise, then it becomes an activity. And then once you get into the sports category, if there's a judge and it's subjective, pageantry, if it is objective and there's a scoreboard that can easily, that cause and effect, you do this, you get this many points, goes into a regular, an aggregate sport.

Okay, I like it. That's the flowchair. There we go. That's all I want. All right. That's all I want. Well, we'll leave it up to the people to decide this, Paul. But we like that you're pushing us, pushing us to think differently about all these things going on in society.

You know? We like that. That's what we like about this bellied up podcast is we're pushing the bounds of what's possible and what's not. Right, Miles? That's right. All right. That's our whole mission as a podcast. It really is.

Say it again. What was it again? Just rewind. I forgot what I said. I think it was pushing the limits of what humans can do in the space that we call home. Yeah. It's all about the joints. Yeah. It's all about the joints, you know. If you can get hurt doing it, then it's a sport.

Well, Paul, I mean, I got hurt getting out of bed the other day. Got hurt doing the polka, dude. Oh, that could be considered a sport if you really think about it. Polka's a sport. Well, it's a dance. Dancing is a sport more than more. Dancing's a sport? Yeah.

Yeah. So it's a pageantry sport, but there you go. Well, thank you, Paul. Is there anything else on your mind before we let you go, my man? Yeah. So actually, this one's more for Miles, actually. I thought about this today. So Miles.

Yes. I would. So you got to tell me if I'm wrong or not, all right? So I would go over to my cousins, all right, and for a barbecue or whatever. And they would ask me how I wanted my burger or my steak or whatever. And I would say, hey, I want it on medium rare on the rare side. And they would always come over and they would always bring me a fucking well done steak. Yeah.

Every damn time. All right. And so why I started doing was at the time I had a little apartment. I had one of those little tarcles, you know, a piece of. crap grills or whatever. So I would grill my own stuff, eat it there. And then I would just go over and they'd be like, hey, well, you want? I'm like, oh, I'm not hungry.

Is that, is that wrong? Honestly, I thought it was going to be worse. I thought you were going to say you cooked it at your house and then brought it there in like a Tupperware. So I did that once. And they got all mad because one of them grew up on a dairy farm. And she's all like, oh, if you saw this stuff, I saw. you wouldn't want it rare and I was like shut the heck up

I was like you're one step away from putting ketchup on your steak you know and then they don't even like brats they don't like brats they don't like brats nobody out here in a stinking northeast likes brats it's like when I cook brats

at home you know I got the I got the beer bath right there and I got the brats going and I'm the only one who eats them that's weird I guess I would have, I thought the northeast, like, especially like Pennsylvania and upstate New York was a shoe in for brats. I think, oh, really? How are you, how are you cooking your brats, Paul?

Oh. So what I do is I put it up. I, you know, get my, my charcoal griller, you know, I put my charcoal in there and, you know, I brown them a little bit, you know, get those nice, get those nice grill marks, you know, I put them in the beer baths. and then they come right back out and, you know, down the hatch. Okay, but Paul, how long are you letting your charcoal goal before you put the brooch on the charcoal? So it depends how fast I'm drinking my beer. Okay.

Okay. Fair enough. Like, it depends on how, how full my beer is. That's how I know. I don't go by time ago and how much my beer is done. I like that. Well, that, I do like your philosophy there, but Paul, I do have to say this could. leave open the possibility that some of your brats might taste like lighter fluid.

Are you using lighter fluid? Oh, no, I don't use no lighter fluid. Okay, okay, good, good. Are you using one of those chimneys, one of them charcoal chimneys to get them all nice and white? Okay. Yeah, that's all I was checking. I just want to make sure you're not, you're not cooking brots on untamed coals. Oh, no, I know how to do it right.

Okay. And I figured the way you said it all, Paul. back to your original thing I thought you were going to just show up with your own meat so what were they pretty offended when you showed up with your own meat

that one time yeah the one time they're like oh what the hell is this I was like it's it's a well it's a rare steak like get off me you know I put like some like chopped white onions you know with it and they're all looking at me like I'm

freaking insane and like I'm just like some animal eating my rare steak and I was like well sorry mine has flavor. Well, could it have been that they were looking at you like that? Because when you showed up, you started eating it and they didn't have their food yet. So they were just No, no, no. They were all. No, I made sure of that, Miles. I made sure

that I got there like in the middle, you know, when everybody's like still, you know, so that I could just slip on in. So you show up late with your own steak and say that, you know, you guys cook them wrong on now and then you just eat it and leave? No, I didn't leave right away, but you know, I tried to just slip in there. There's like, what the heck is that? I didn't grill that.

Like, yeah, that's because I did. So, you learn pretty quick. That was no good, right? Thermometer two Christmases in a row. I think you just need new friends. Yeah, Paul. I mean, yeah, I haven't been really invited over for a barbecue in a little bit. I wonder why.

that is a good move though um that was like uh my dad's friend he would like go to his in-laws and they would always cook really small portions and so then he would uh after dinner he would be like oh i got to run to the gas station filled up with gas and he would go to mcdonalds and get a quarter pounder after he just ate dinner at their house because it's because they had such small portion sizes a small portion household a bud bag yeah yeah So why don't you try that next time? Instead, just be like, what you need to do is you need to put your rare steak in like a warming type of like a, you know, like they bring pizza and the little thing that traps all the heat, the delivery guy. Oh yeah, yeah.

Put your steak in one of those. Then when you get there, just be like, oh, I got to use the bathroom. Go put that in the tub in the bathroom. then you just eat some of their food and then you're like oh god that food's going right through me and then you go take an air quote shit maybe you are taking shit and just you're steak in the bathroom after instead of during what someone's going to say when they see a freaking pizza bag in the no one's looking in the tub Paul no one's looking in the top they won't suspect the thing I mean that's crazy move to go into a bathroom and just if you just got pee you just whip open the

curtain. Yeah. The only people are doing that who have like childhood like real trauma. Yeah. Someone, you know, they had an intruder hiding in the shower or something. Yeah. I mean, or they just took an edible and

they're scared. Generally. Generalized scaredness. You ever take an edible, Paul? No, no, I never did. I'm a good boy, Charlie. I think, Paul, I think you would really enjoy it. you know so when i got out of the military i got a bunch of guys who told me hey you should go on the

on the medical marijuana and do all this and do all that now that you're out and i don't know man i just like drinking beer okay but here's the thing though you do it edible you go over your friend's house even a well-done steak is going to sound good to you you're going to be so hungry we might have stumbled on a solution here for your uh your friend problems here paul see i that And this is why I called in. That's right. It took us a while, but we found the advice you needed. So, yeah, just start doing edibles.

Say yes to drugs. We dare you. And then all of a sudden you care a lot less about how well your steak is prepared and more about that there's just steak in front of you. Yeah, you're not going to. And chips and mashed potatoes and everything. But you may have an existential crisis at your friend's house. But just, yeah, then just go into the bathroom and whip open the shower curtain and make sure no one's there.

Yeah. And then you're good. You'll be fine. So then I get two stakes. Well, in this scenario, we didn't incorporate the other steak, but you could still bring it. I'm going to tell you this, you get the right edible. You could have four steaks. There you go.

Yeah. That's the type of appetite. The appetite you're looking for. Appetate. Appetate. All right, Paul. what we appreciate it. I think we solved your problem. I don't know. You could disagree, but no, you solved the problem, you know. All right. Well, we're happy that you called in here, Paul,

and get on back to Wisconsin sometime soon, okay? Oh, I'd love, I'd love to, you know, but you guys, you guys say hi to your folks. Watch out for dear and change your air filter. Okay, we will. And you too, Paul. Thanks for your service, too. Yeah, no problem. All right, bye-bye. know. Paul's a good guy. You know, you can see where some of this comes from, though, Miles. Like, you know, you want your steak done right. And when it's not, I love the passive aggressive move for the Christmas present with the meat thermometer. That might be my favorite. We did glaze over that. That was a great move by Paul. That was wonderful. Two years in a row even. I know. That's, I wonder. I wonder. I wonder.

I wonder if he brought it up or if they all just ignored that it happened again, you know. I should have asked. They definitely talk shit about him on the way home. Yeah. He bought us another meet her mom. I'd always love to get the other side of this. So if you're out there and you're Paul's friend and you listen to the show, calling some time. We'd love to get the other side.

Yeah. Actually, anybody out there, if someone's called up to the podcast and talk smacked about you, give us the other side. There's two sides every coin, Charles. There is. Well, some coins actually through a problem at the mint, they printed the same thing on both sides of the coin. There's still two sides. There's still two sides. Just sometimes on both sides is the same thing. Right. And that's a symbolic of life. Should we take another call our mouse? Let's do it. Hi, Ben. You got Miles and Charlie from the bellied up podcast. We heard that you have entered a contest or you did enter a contest. I did. I did and I lost.

What contest? So my coworker told me about a good way to make some extra cash since I'm new to Minnesota. And at his local bar, they do a bikini contest. Okay. And? So I'm not sure if you guys are familiar with the movie Borat. Yeah. Oh, wow.

suit that so wow did you put a banana hammer con oh yeah I have the video if you want me to send it to please I would love for you to send it right now wow do I send it to the number or yeah I think so right right here Jared yeah okay you can just text it to this number try that all right um okay so you

bikini contest you said I'd like to make some extra cash I got this Borat banana hammock laying around. I'll strap it on and head over. Yeah. I'm sending you the video right now. Okay. Yeah, I think we just got react to this video because I got some follow up.

Is it suitable for work? What's that? Is it safe for work? Some of the guys at work have seen it. Okay. It was, I mean, I had just about everything showing except for my rod and reel. brought and real. Well, let's put NSFW on this episode. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. That's why I'm like,

what are we walking into? Um, how, how'd you, were you confident in it? Yeah. I mean, and it was at a bar and I pretty much did it like sober. And, uh, they said that guys could win it. There was one other guy in it. It was all other women. Um, the winner actually, it was she kind of bribed the the whole i mean there's judges but you know she bribed everyone to cheer for it was her 47th birthday oh okay okay so do you think it come with like a sob story at all because i feel like that always happens no she was just bribing people with nicotine i think oh she was handing out zins something like that yeah and i mean she sure took a liking to me but i guess the judges didn't you know, and the entire, for a while, the, um, my man, cany disappears in back a little bit and the

judges were behind me. So I can't imagine they were enjoying the view too much. Well, did you, uh, did you, uh, trim up, um, for it? Oh, yeah, you know, I think that might have been, uh, my mistake. There's, there's a bit of a legend at this bar that for years, uh, the, the Bush lady would win it year after year. I guess she retired now. Like she liked Bush beer? Not quite, not quite. Oh, you're talking about, I see.

Yeah. I see. Tough's coming out of the side of the bikini. Yeah. Sideburns on the bikini, Charlie. I like a good bikini with sideburn. Wise men say. Yeah, it was definitely a wild night.

I'll never forget it. That was the night that the. that the bears beat the packers and the wild card. Shut that hell up, dude. This is eight episodes in a row now? What is wrong with you? What is wrong with you? I'm sitting here trying to be supportive.

Okay, I'm as supportive of you as your banana hammock was. Okay? And you got to bring that up. The season's over. All right. Okay. So I think it's not sending Charlie because we're on the phone. So we're going to hang up quick.

Yeah. And then we're going to get the message and then we'll call you. back. How's that sound? All right. Here we go. All right. Wow. Oh, my God. Ben, you are going for it, dude. Oh, yeah. Can we zoom in on that? I should zoom in. Oh, wow. Ben, you hit the gym. Oh, my God. Wait, zoom out. I can't see it now. Well, not. So, Ben, where'd you go? I can't, I can't zoom in far enough to be able to see what's going on with your package, but. Are you packing, Ben? You can see enough.

Wow. Are you doing bodybuilding poses? Are you a bodybuilder? I'm not. I go to the gym every once in a while. Typically, I got a little bit going on in the midsection. Oh, my God. I started doing some cardio, trimming down.

That is a tough watch. Oh, did you squat down? Yeah, yeah, a little bit. I was trying to get the crowd going. There is another guy up there. He was doing some, some twerking. And he actually got second place. He was wearing a American flag helmet and a women's bikini.

So he was wearing the top as well. Oh, and the other thing, they had me go out first. Oh, you didn't know. You didn't know. You kind of guys. You had to take the bullet. So that whole crowd there is waiting to see some pretty girls. It's a bunch of drunk guys in there.

the place was packed and I'm the first thing that comes out and you couldn't see it in the video but I had rip off pants. Ah. Oh. So I come out there. I rip them off. Let me see it again. Is what everyone gets a eye full of. So, okay. Yeah, there's only women screaming I can tell in the video for some reason.

Yeah, yeah. I heard a couple. Oh, a couple of those. Did you hear any, did you hear any women go, oh, for cute? Oh, no, no. I'm glad I didn't hear anything like that. Oh, that's a cute little guy he's got. Oh, there.

So, all right, Ben. Oh, he's so cute and cuddly. I got to tell you, Ben, you got some balls on you. I see the evidence right here, I suppose. Yeah, good outline. You were this close to having a ball slip. Yeah. Oh, my gosh.

I was so nervous. And they said I would lose if something slipped out. I would think I should still win. No, that's cheating. That's, I mean, that's part of the rules. Okay, so just imagine, Charlie, you and I, we're single, right? Yeah. Just imagine we're the same age.

We're 21. We're at this bar. We hear this bikini contest. You and I. This can be awesome. Dude, this is going to be awesome. So many hot chicks. So many hot chicks.

Wow. You know, dude, let's slam 40. beers and then go to this bar. Sounds great. We'll get front row seats. All right. We're now at the bar. Front row seats. The first woman's going to come out, Charlie. Here we go. And then you're on, Ben. And then I do my thing and you see my thing. Wow. What the fall? Are we at the right bar? Is this? Are we in a, what kind of bar is this? What kind of a bar is this?

I'm going to, I might have to leave a Yelp review. This is a first time for me. I'm starting to feel something, Miles. Yeah, but, you know, I mean, I'm questioning things. I kind of like his bikini. Yeah. It's not too bad. He's clearly been to the gym. Yeah.

Oh, God, here he's, oh, he's squatted down. Oh, he's got a manscaper. Oh, wow. Either he is doing full body wax or he can't grow anything. I don't know. Oh. Oh, you got Charlie a lot and bothered his headphones fell off. Oh my, hey, listen, after you got off stage here, Ben, did you get, like, do you have a girlfriend?

No. Boyfriend? No. Okay. Are you asking? Well, no, I was just curious. Did you get any numbers after this? Where people generally receptive?

So did you have to go lobby yourself? Like, did you have to walk around the bar in that afterwards? Or did you go put your pants back on? No, I put my pants back on. That would have been pretty cold. Okay. Sorry. Back to Charlie's question.

I did. A lot of people wanted to talk to me. A lot of guys were more just impressed on me doing that. The confidence. Yeah. I mean, the winner, the 47-year-old, she really liked it. And then as soon as the Bears won, she beat the Packers. She just came running up to me.

I wasn't sure what she was going for. and then she just jumps and wraps her legs around me and latches on. She's not letting go. I mean, she's hanging on there like a leech. And she she just starts thrusting and thrusting. Wow. And are you hammocked up at this point? I am wearing pants.

Oh, you're wearing pants. But you still got it on underneath? Yes. Yeah, I still had it on underneath. Did you put a sock in there at all, Ben? No, there was there was not. much room left for anything extra. Okay.

I thought about it. All right. Okay. Those one size fits all on Amazon. And let me tell you, order the bigger size. I don't need to do that, but. So. And I don't think Charlie does either.

You know, I'll say this much right now, Ben, you really sold it. and you went out there and you looked at the, you looked at the crowd. You could see, I see it in this video, I see a bunch of fellas just shaking their heads and you just, you did not care. You shook what you had and you gave it to the world. And for that, we salute you.

We do. Thank you. I have a question. Yes. You said you did this to try and make some extra cash. how broke are you? Not too broke. I mean, I lost money doing this

because I had to pay for all that. Why don't you just go donate plasma at that point? Yeah, maybe I should. I mean, I just wanted to make sure I had a little extra cash and I was looking at buying a boat and some extra things. Just trying to decide where I want to put my money and I figured that would be a good fun time.

I do think, though, that maybe for next year, if I go out there again, you guys should do your podcast at that bar and be celebrity judges. I need a couple judges on my side. Okay. I like a. Hey, hey, you got to respect the game. Patch and tree sport. And we saw it took more than one joint. I don't know what I mean. So that's a, that's a smart move there, Ben. stack the judging table. And, hey, depending on where it is, when it is, we might show up. Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm in central Minnesota.

Okay. Who knows it could be another Bears Packers game. What town are you in? That was in, what town was that? Sorry, my co-workers here. Breezy point. Breezy point. Yeah.

I had a real breezy point. So you were happy to do it. Did you get a little adrenaline rush up there? Yeah, it was fun. Especially, you know, doing that with like, I had two drinks the whole night. That was a mistake. So I guess where I was kind of going with that is like, you know that like no one, you didn't have to do this.

So mostly just think about like what was the actual motivation behind wearing the Borat bikini and getting on stage and flashing your junk to a bunch of guys. It was, uh, it was my co-worker. He's a big fan of you guys too. Unfortunately, he's not here right now. He's, uh, out in Florida, but he really wanted me to wear that and go up there on stage. So, you know, I don't know what that says about him. I'm just going to say, he's going to hate me for saying that. Why didn't he do it himself? He, uh, I think he's got some respect for himself.

Okay. He's got micro penis. What is it about you, uh, Ben, that gives you this kind of, uh, you know, bravado. Bravado. I don't know. I just, so I just moved out here. I lived with my parents, uh, in, in Illinois. And I just moved up here and I got my own place now. So it's like, I, I never.

I never went to college or nothing. This is like my, this is like just me going out into the wild doing whatever because why not? You're exploring yourself. He's like an indoor cat that's now outside for the first time and this is how the world works.

Either that or he's like he's living with his parents. He's just trying to make friends. This is how he has to do it. You know, he'll take whatever suggestion from whatever coworker. Have you ever been a man to turn down a dare, Ben?

Usually if it's something like that, yeah, but it's, I guess it kind of works because I don't know anyone up here. Okay, good. Good. My hope was I'll never run into anyone. I already have, though. It's kind of a what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas type of situation. Yeah, what happens in Breezy Point, stays in Breezy Point. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. And the other downside of this, though, is that I got a pretty recognizable face. I have a skin condition called Vidaligo that causes half of my mustache

to be colored white. So it's black and white. And that's pretty easy for people to recognize. Can we get a picture of that? Yeah, I'd like a photo of that. Yeah, I think I could probably find something. That's crazy. Pretty cool.

Do you like it? Yeah, I enjoy it. I even got recognized at the bar. One of the bartenders there when I went back, she uh the second i walked in she goes hey two tone two tone so is it just it's just your mustache though not not your hair no just my mustache it's a little bit on the rest of my face let's see i don't take many photos of myself well you you're you oh here i got a nice nice fishing photo oh cool yeah send that fish too oh oh wow look at that

Yeah, if I didn't know that that was a condition, I'd think that you were like trying to do something fashion-wise, you know? Oh, yeah, that's what people think all the time. It's actually not a lot of people know about Vidaligo. That's crazy. Yeah, and I like that you just rock the mustache, too. You know, a lot of people wouldn't go facial hair, but you're really going for it. And that's a nice, it's a skinny northern. Good Lord. Yeah, I get, I have some trouble bringing in the big ones, but. I still lived it like a man. Yeah, you did. That's, that's, that's, sure did. Uh, you should feed that northern a perch before you let it go.

Are you a pro fish shirt? You just get that shirt. No, I got it on, uh, so I am a, uh, I work for Bass Pro Shop. Oh, cool. So I get their, uh, their discount and everything. Nice. And so Bass Pro Shops was cool with you getting on stage in a banana hammock. So I, I used to work.

for at one of the best pro locations. Now I'm just at one of their dealerships. It's a lot more laid back. And, uh, behind the scenes, behind the curtain. Yeah, which by the way,

um, we're all a big, we're all big fans of you guys here. And if you guys are interested in you ever come up here during the summer, normally we do not allow test drives for anyone, but we do, uh, occasionally,

do demos for promotional content. If you guys ever wanted to drive a really expensive boat, you could even do a podcast while you're fishing on the water. You could call it jerking it with Miles and Charlie. Hey, I like that. You're in the marketing department. You know what? I'm fine with it.

Can we fish in the tank in the store? Charlie, we got to negotiate here. We're not just going to, you know, do free ads for a ride on a boat, Charlie. So you need to get them to sponsor the. podcast. Hang on Miles. Let me work my magic. Do you, do you, I'll even wear the mankini for you if you want. That didn't sweeten pot at all. Do you guys have a, you're negotiating against yourself here. Do you have a tank in your bass pro shop? Well, this is just a dealership. We don't, we don't have anything cool like that. We want to swim in the, in the tank. Oh, that'd be cool.

I was going to say fishing it while we did the podcast. We want to swim and fish in the tank while we podcast. Miles of swim, I'll fish. And I'll wear the bikini. Really? No. No. Well, Ben, we appreciate you calling in man. And we'll think about this, this Bass Pro Shop. And you think about if you want to sponsor the podcast or not. Then we can, it's a different conversation, you know, Charlie. Miles is my money guy. I'm ready to give it, give it all away. Just like you, Ben. All right. Actually, before, before, I had, I wanted to ask you, well, there was another. If this is about the bears again, I'm going to be pissed, Ben. No, no, it's not about the bears.

Well, actually, no, I do have a big complaint about that that I think we can all agree on. What's going on with NFL on Prime that you can't, you got to exclusively watch it on, on a streaming service? Yeah, it's annoying. What do you mean? It's a cash crap. Yeah. It's all about money.

Yeah. Any, no, I cannot stand that. Any inconvenience that we have in this modern life of where something doesn't make sense, it's because someone needs to make extra money. Yeah, I just hate it. We're going backwards with all this streaming service. Now I might as well just get cable. Right.

It's all about, it's all about. Cash graph. Yeah. It's all about jerking off stakeholders or stock. What? Whatever. It's about jerking people off. It's just more money.

Money, money, money. Exponential growth. That's our price. problem. Speaking of exponential growth, love to see your next bikini show and Miles and I will chit-chat about being the, uh, being the judges, okay? All right. All right, dude. Have a good one.

You too. See you, Ben. Well, Chuck. Miles. Cooligans just dropped a brunch in front of us. I know. I know. Great timing too because I think that that's makes for another great episode of the belly. that podcast. Sure does, Miles. I wasn't expecting to see Ben in full form, but we saw him.

We did. You never know what you're going to get on this podcast. You know, I want to say, Ben is an inspiration to us all. Whatever your man Keeney is this week, give it a goal. Whatever it is. Put yourself outside of your comfort zone. And life's short. Put on a banana hammock.

Yeah. And with that, don't forget to tip your bartender, guys. We'll see the next one. Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now. Oudaloo.