Bellied Up - We Solve a Family Mystery (We think) #186

Episode Date: February 5, 2026

We’re at Cleveland Pub in West Berlin, WI. First caller needs help unraveling a 40 year old family mystery. We’re on the case. Then we talk with a family Deer Processing/Butcher shop out of Illinois. Check out Headons Fine Meats:https://headons2go.com/Play Prizepicks: https://prizepicks.onelink.me/ivHR/be...⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠use promo code: belliedup

Hey, everybody. How are you? It's me, Charlie Barron's. I'm here with my buddy Miles, and we are bellied up, belly right up to the bar here at the Cleveland Pub. Cleveland Pub. Miles, I just, I want to say that the old fashions that are made here with the Barron's old fashion brandy, the you betcha old fashions are stellar. Very good. one of the better ones I've had honestly to be frank with you me too yeah and I'm not just saying that because they called it that you betcha old fashioned

with Barron's old fashion brandy I like that they put the little cherry pie deal in there a little liqueur and they and they're going straight soda water so it's a press but it's a sneaky press because you know it's not like too dry because they get that they little

sweetness. It's just a hint. Yeah, it's almost like a, it's almost like a cherry flavored lacroixed in with the brandy there. It's that kind of a... You know, that doesn't make it sound very good when you say it like that. Well, but it's, it's, imagine if that was good.

Maybe, are you kidding? You're not a LaCroix guy? Well, no, I'm just saying like a cherry lacroix with brandy doesn't sound that appealing to me. But it tastes delicious is what I'm trying to say. Yeah. It's, it's wonderfully done. And it's refreshing. Some old-fashioned.

This is kind of a summer old fashion in my mind. That's it. We're getting there. We're dialing it in. We're getting there. Perhaps be a good concoction for all of you guys to try this Super Bowl weekend. Everybody out there watching the Super Bowl miles? Are you watching it?

I will be, yeah. Okay. I did lose some money because as some of you may be aware, the Packers didn't quite make it to the Super Bowl, but that's okay. Maybe next year. year. I'm already placing my bets. Miles, I was thinking about something, though. Yeah. I was thinking about, like, working out. Okay. I like where this is going. Anytime Charlie can start

a segment with I was thinking about something, I know we're in for a ride. Because I was thinking about working out, Miles, and when did we start working out? Like, there weren't Lou lemons back in the 1800s. Were they no? Yeah, like, were they working out in like, what is it, chain mail or whatever? Yeah. And everything was that what it's called? chain mail like tink, no, everything was made of cotton back then. Can you imagine the jockech? No one's trying to sweat more.

And they didn't have gold bond back then. No gold bond. Can you imagine that? They just had to like chop up fur really fine and put that on your deal. You know? So my question is like working out early, early in the world's history was just running away from saber two tigers. Yeah, that was the first iteration of working out.

And then afterwards, like, all right. I'm going to go do my workout. Did anyone see a bear anywhere around here? You're right in here? All right. Yeah. And there, you know, new, new record time. Let's go.

That was really good act out. I know it's a good act out when three people in the bar look over at you as you're doing it. That was really good. Honestly, I felt good to stretch the quads. I could tell you got into it. But yeah, I mean, like they just went out. And they must have felt, imagine how good that's got to feel.

Like if you get away, 50% aren't getting away. But for the 50% that do, what a rush, you know? Yeah. What a rush. You're just alive. That was how they initially got addicted to working out. It wasn't necessarily the endorphins from working out. It was the adrenaline from not dying.

Yeah. Yeah. I got them hooked. And then I imagine the next phase of inventing working out is. A little feather flying around here. The next iteration of, working out. There was a guy, he's like, all right, guys, hear me out. So what if we did all the manual labor that we've currently been doing, but we did it without accomplishing anything?

So you know, you've been chopping wood. We're going to take the, we're going to take the blade off of it, and you're just going to swing a hammer at a tire. They're like, well, what would that even accomplish? You're like, you're just, you're going to get sweaty. You know, those hay bales you've been thrown around. We're going to do that. We're just going to get heavy rocks and just lift them up and drop them. So you want to do work, but without any of the benefits. Yeah.

Yeah. We're actually going to work without any benefits so that when we do work, we feel better. It must have started that because people were just chopping wood because they had to. And when we stopped having to do this for survival. and then we just took all the worst elements of it, took out the accomplishment, and then that's how it goes. Like, you ever see, like, where did the kettlebell come from?

Like, you know what I mean? What was the original purpose? I think kettleball was late to the game. I think that's a newer event. It's kettle ball? No, kettlebell. Oh, yeah. But it's not a bell.

Jared, can we get a brief history on the kettle bell? Yeah, you're right. If it's named that, it's got to be something. Yeah, it's got to be named after a kettle bell. And I mean, I know what a kettle is, and I know sometimes people put a bell on the kettle. I just, I don't know why. What do we have there, Jared? Cettlebells originated in Russia as cast iron counterweights for weighing crops in the 18th century.

But soon became tools for strength of fitness. Okay. Farmers, yeah. All right. And circus strongmen. Circus strongmen. God, to be in a circus miles back in the day. You ever know, you ever meet someone in a circus?

No. I dated an acrobat once. Let me tell you. Okay, all right, on the scale of crazy, where does acrobat and the circus fit within like the, like, you know, just normal gal? And then you at the top, you obviously have registered nurse and hairdressers. I know he was going with it. Where does the circus acrobat fit within that scale? Believe it or not, Miles, it's right around hairdresser.

Okay. All right. But these gals are strong, strong. You got to be. Yeah. And just ripped, you know, and adrenaline junkies too. Like, you're risking your life doing that kind of stuff. Yeah.

But, yeah. Like the person, like, I know why it's called dumbbell. There's a first guy to use one. They're like, God, this guy is a dumbass. Yeah. He's just trying to lift that for fun. Yeah. What are we doing?

Yeah. That's work. Yeah. You're not, he's not even getting paid. I, I, you know, farmers carry you that used to have a use. Now you're just carrying stuff around for no reason and no pay. But when did it start? When did it start?

When did we start like actually lifting weights? The Spartans had to have, right? The training all the young boys to eventually just die for their nation. That's true. That's true. But do you think they were actually jacked like that? Because I feel like people have just gotten more jacked. you know you ever walk through an old hallway miles it's short people were shorter back in the day

malnourish nothing to do with working out though sure it does your example is great until you just made it about height and not about girth well i think it's all connected miles it's all connected that's when you're wrong about something you just say it's all connected and hope just like it is what it is it is yeah but now we're yeah what you work out oh obviously you work out i've seen your workout situation. You saw what I did at the arm wrestling table. You know that I work out. I didn't always work out though. And I actually was thinking about this. You know, when I started, you bet you I didn't work out, right? And so online, the idea was that Miles is a guy who doesn't work out. And I was very anti-workout at that time. But then I just started doing the math. And I have,

I have had way less years of not working out of my life than I have working out. If you really think about it, I had a gap about five years where I was pretty anti-working out. And I think that that was a overcorrection from spending the last 10 years of my life with very organized working out. Because I don't know if you guys know this, but Miles was the quarterback of his Division 2 football team. No.

Division 3 football team. No, it was Division 2. You got that part right. Oh. You weren't a quarterback? I started two games and I got bench because it was bad. So let's let's not throw around that I was the quarterback. You were the quarterback for two days.

Two games, two games. So why, how many interceptions did you throw in those two games? At least two. Really? Yeah, the second game, I only made it like a quarter and a half.

Oh, no. So we're only talking about it. Mid game. One, you're a, you're a one and a quarter. I'm a five and a half quarter quarter. God.

I'm a five and a half quarterback. Were you sad when you got benched? Yeah. Yeah. But I could, but I could feel it, you know, because like in that situation,

any quarterback who's upset that they got benched or something like that, they're lying to themselves if they're like, I don't, I didn't see this coming. It's like pretty obvious. Did you guys lose both games? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

We won one game that season. Ah, well, so I don't feel as bad. It's tough to play it on you though. It's not like I. I ruined the season. Yeah.

Did you guys have some offensive line issues? Do you want to even blame it on someone else? Right tackle was 235 pounds. So that should tell you everything you need to know. But since you've gotten more into working out. Not more, just working out. You've been working out. What's the most...

I'll go a stretch for like a month why I won't. Not in it. Are you stretching enough? No. I stretch every night before bed. How's that going? You've got to feel good. It's going good.

I wasn't for a while and I'm older than you. You are. I'm giving you the cliff notes. For those who don't know. Give me the answer to the test here. Yeah. Once you start getting lower back pain when you wake up in the morning, once sleep becomes a contact sport, you got to start working out.

I'm about to change your life. I'm about to change your life. I'm about to change your life. Now, it's going to be tough for you because you're on the road so much. Okay. I do not have lower back pain. in my future. Because you know what I did?

What? I made an investment in my future. Leg pillow? And I bought a bed with an adjustable mattress. Oh, wow. So I have been sleeping in zero gravity. I have zero tension on any of the joints in my body as I am sleeping. Really?

Okay, okay. And I tell you what, we've been on this trip. I just got it a few weeks ago. We've been on this trip. in Milwaukee here, so I'm staying in a hotel. You're slum in it. Terrible sleep. Really?

Back's actually starting to not feel so great. So I'm thinking it's your mattress, Charlie, and how you're in the positions you're sleeping in. I'm shouting this on the mountain tops, by the way. So, okay, here's my question. Adjustable, if is me, I haven't adjust. My brother used to be in the in the bed business. My brother who works for me now, Johnny B. he used to be a bed dealer back in the day and he got well he worked he was the assistant to the bed

dealer and but he got me a a deal on a bed he got me an off market um what do they call it therapeutic temper pediatric so it adjust to but the problem with it is memory foam got to stay away from memory foam really is that the problem it's the death of your bed i i bought a bed in a box when i moved into my house. I got it to last four years, but it should only meant three and it was cooked. Really? Why? Why is that so bad? I just bought it's going to be good for 15 years. No kidding. I've, because it's got the memory foam on top. I mean, it's in the name. Memory foam. It remembers

where you sleep over time and you can see your imprint on the bed over time. So that's not good? That's not good. There's no support. Not enough support. Oh, damn. that sucks because this bed's so heavy. Like I moved it twice. And the only people that need a temperedic are people who move temperedic beds. I'm pretty sure because the only reason I haven't gotten one is because it's such a pain in the ass to move.

You got to get a custom bed. Custom. It's firm as you can get. Really? And adjustable. I'm, I'm. But do you, you're a back sleeper then. No, never.

Well, how are you adjusting? It's an adjustment. Because your legs, if you're sleeping and your legs. If you're sleeping and your legs are up. They're elevated above your head. Your head slightly tilted up. So the adjustment period for sure. So you're only sleeping on your back when you're on that bed though.

Correct. Okay. And that's how you're supposed to sleep. On your back, yeah. But then in some point, you might want to turn over and you just, you resist the urge to. Wow. So I'm in the, they say it takes 30 days to adjust. I'm in the 30 day period.

And so like, yeah, I will wake up. I like three in my body. he wants to turn over and I just have to be like, no, I'm just staying on the back. See, I've never done that, so I just don't use the adjustable feature on the bed. Let me ask you this. What about Ann? Do you guys have the same? So we got a split king.

Damn. So she can do whatever she wants. Where are you getting this money, dude? I told, because you're talking about it, you bet your radio. I heard. Yeah. Yeah. But remind me.

It definitely at face value was like, this is way too much for a bed. And then I started doing the math. It's a warranty, a guarantee up to 15 years. So they'll come fix your mattress up to 15 years. Okay. So in my other bed lasted three years. I'd have to buy five mattresses in 15 years doing the other route. And so I'm actually saving money.

Wow. So it's an investment, really, when you think about it. So, yeah, you need to think about that. Speaking which... Now, it does suck because you are in hotels a lot with your tour. Yeah, I don't know that that's... But when I'm home, you want to be rocking and rolling, right? Mm-hmm.

Maybe you sold me. Are they a sponsor, by the way? No, this is actually no sponsorship. Just pure love of the mattress game for me. What's the name of the bed? Comfort King. Comfort King. They have a location of Fargo and Sioux Falls.

What kind of bed is it again? It's a comfort king. Oh, that's the name of the bed? They make the bed in store. Oh, do you go there and lay for them and they take your... Not quite that custom. No. Oh, what are they customizing that? Well, they just build it for, they just like, because you can choose how firm and not you want.

Well, then you got to test them out, Miles. Yeah, I go, I went laid. Well, but they didn't like take measurements of me and like, they didn't weigh me. I bet they have sensors on those mattresses. Maybe. You didn't ask. No. You got like orthotics for your back.

My body, yeah. Yeah. Body thotics. Botthotics. That's trademark now, by the way. Isn't that crazy that we're talking about this? just after the workout thing. Like imagine how beds have changed over the years too.

Used to be ground. Caribou hide. Yeah. That was the first mattress. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Yeah.

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Use code bellied up. Luke. Luke. Luke. How you doing it? What's going on? Good. How are you guys doing?

We're doing great, man. We're doing great. We hear you got a family mystery. I do have a bit of a family mystery that I've been trying to unravel for quite some time. And honestly, my entire family has. So I think we can make some good strides here. It's your uncle. It's not my uncle.

Okay. It's your crazy aunt. It's both of my grandpas. There's two grandpaws in this story. So you don't know anything about the story, right? We don't know anything. We like flying blind. We love to discover it.

the audience. All right. All right. So you might want to grab a pen and paper here, maybe a bar napkin because this gets a little confusing. Okay. All right. Hang on.

Let me get a bar napkin. Jared, you got a pen. You got a pen. All right. All right. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Here we go. Okay. All right. I'll be taking notes, Miles. Which is already just a bad decision. Hang on. One napkins got to use to wipe up. I was going to say now it's all wet.

Yeah. All right. We'll just, We'll dry that. Okay, thank you. Oh, she gave me paper. Wow. Shout out.

Thank you. All right. So we got some paper. All right. Let's hear what we're doing. All right or wrong. Okay. So my family has what we've always called the wife swap.

Wife swap. Yeah. The old kickapoo switcheroo. I like it. Yeah. So basically two best friends literally swapped wives and then had more kids. And so those two best friends were in a group. before friends and two of them are my grandpas. One of them is technically my step-grandpa.

One is my blood grandpa. Hold on. But also your half, but also your half grandpa or something. Okay. No, technically not because so we'll get into all that. I'm even a little bit confused too. I've had this drawn out to me on, on a map multiple times. I think I have it down now. We need some names. We got two studs. We need some names. I want both grandpa's names so I can write this down. Okay. So I'll give different names because I feel like my grandpas won't be thrilled if they hear that. No, that's fine. That, that's okay. Your grandpa's so podcast guys. We're not on NPR, all right. So what, one of the grandpa's names is Peter and another name is Ben. Peter and Ben. Okay, so

Grandpa Peter, Grandpa Ben. Peter and Ben. They both have wives. So add wives to that. So the, the two wives are Allison and Shannon. And so the beginning combination though is Peter and Allison and then Grandpa Ben and Shannon. That's the original combo. Okay. All right. All right. So Peter

and Allison are my blood grandparents. Ben and Shannon I have no relation to other than the swap happening afterwards. Okay. So then do a little family tree and put Luke down there. Luke, okay. Well, so I am from the other Peter and Allison side, but Peter and Allison had three kids.

Okay. And Ben and Shannon on the other side had three kids. Okay, so just do three circles on each side. Okay. Two, three. And then how many for Ben and Shannon? Both had three kids. Okay, got it.

All right. Cool. Yeah. So all four of them were in a group before, like really close friends. And so at some point, they got a lot friendly with one another. And I don't know. That's the part I'm trying to figure out. But at some point.

What's there to figure out? They started fucking each other's wives, you know? That's what, yeah. So there's a number of things that it could have been. They could have been swingers. Somebody could have cheated on somebody. You know, it could have been completely mutual, which I don't think would ever happen. But, you know, they could just be like, hey, I like her better.

You like her better. Let's just reorganize here. Okay. So, yeah, at some point they swapped officially. They got married to the others. And then they each had one, Peter and Shannon now, new combination, had three kids, three new kids. And then Ben and Allison had four more kids. So very large family, all of these, not quite as big as Charlie's family, but it's getting there.

It's getting there. So all of them are technically my aunts and uncles. and actually the combination of, see, I'm not even confused, of Ben and Allison's kids are technically not related to me, but they... I mean, they are. They're half. Yeah. You're half. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're all at least half or whole. Yeah. Yeah. Because Allison is your grandmother. So you have three full aunts and uncles and four half aunts and uncles. he has three full aunts and uncles and one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten.

No, those are step. Those are step. Not related, no blood whatsoever. So we got full step and half. Well, what about these? Peter and Shannon. They had three more kids. Okay.

So then that's another half. So he's actually got seven a half. This is what I just said, Miles. Do not correct me and then take my right answer. That was, that was a rare blunder for me. you were correct. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I'm the one taking notes here. I'm following along. Three full, three step, and seven half aunts and uncles. So what's confusing for me is because like we grew up together like my mom was in the Peter and Allison combo early on. So

they all, all of the kids lived together. They kind of just went back and forth between houses. So all of the aunts and uncles were just for all intents and purposes, just like full family. So I never really thought about it like half full whatever. but yeah super confusing would they swap where they slept at night like did they

did they know what was going on the kids or they my mom she went yeah she went between different houses so there was just there is yeah

okay she primarily would live with grandpa Ben who actually wasn't her biological dad mm-hmm mm-hmm

okay so Luke's mom is over here in the Ben and Alice And is she part of the first brood or the second first brood? She's Peter and Allison. Yeah. Peter and Alice. Right.

That makes sense. But she primarily. So then she went to go live over there. Right. Okay. Right. So, okay.

And maybe I'm jumping the gun here, but what is Christmas like? Yeah. So since this happens, and that's part of what I'm trying to figure out is like, how do I ask one of the grandpas at a Christmas or something like that? that without kind of, you know, ruining a holiday or reopening old wounds. Because I don't know if somebody got cheated on or whatever.

But we definitely, I mean, since they were best friends and they are, they're still like cordial. Like they say, hey, whenever they see each other, but like they're not by any means. Okay. So you're doing. Makes me think that there's a clue here. So you're doing two Christmases, but you're basically all of the same people are at both Christmases. Except from the grandparents. Not always.

It's usually there's kind of, there's two groups. Some of them kind of moved over to the West Coast. I'm based in New York. Yeah, but if you were going to have a Christmas on both sides of those families, essentially everyone gets invited to both. Not everyone shows up. Yes, correct. Okay.

Cool. So you think that the grandparents would just swallow their pride and you guys could just do it all in one shindig. That would be convenient for scheduling. But yeah, that's not really how it goes. We did just have an 80-year birthday for Grandpa Ben and everybody. Like we had like 80 people there. It was crazy.

Wow. Yeah. That's wild. So you consider since your mom lived with Ben and Allison, who was more of the grandpa figure for you growing up? Was it Ben or Peter? Kind of both. I'd say, yeah, definitely definitely both. They've both been in my life a good amount.

Yeah, I mean, they're Eskimo brothers, so it makes sense. Yeah. Double Eskimo brothers, actually. That's right. This is a... They both have slept with the same two women, right? Yeah. And both married the same woman and had kids with the snow.

Wow. Damn. Maybe the reason why they're not friends. they're just too much alike, you know? Yeah, they're actually not very alike at all, which I don't know how they kind of were best friends at first. And I think that's part of what happened with the swap is that maybe they realize like, hey, you're nothing like him. You'd be better off with me and then vice versa. I don't know.

So we were at a wedding for one of my cousins recently. and Grandpa Peter said like my entire family's been trying to figure this out but like no one really talks about it. Healthy. Are you guys Catholic? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Obviously. Did they get those an old by the way?

Yeah. Did they get the, do you know? No, I'm not sure. Yeah. They probably nailed it in. So Grandpa Peter at a wedding recently just said to somebody, I think he was drunk, but he just basically said, it was mutual and then nothing more. So it sounds like he got cheated on.

Ah, yeah. So Ben and Allison were, I've been really trying, baby. That's not good. Well, that. I mean, I don't know that for sure, but I mean, nobody says it was mutual and

it means it, I feel like. Yeah, it's all about tone at that point, you know? Yeah. which I wasn't there. I didn't hear the tone. You was telling it and then all of a sudden the glass just shattered in his hand after he said it. It's mutual. Go get me a towel on the bandaid.

Yeah. So I'm trying to, I don't know how the best way is to bring this up. How is this psychologically fared for your mother? She's been fine. I mean, she's very Catholic response. Yeah. We've established that she's fine. Yeah.

But what's some crazy shit she does that is definitely because her parents started messing around with, you know, other people? I don't know. I mean, she hasn't really done any crazy shit. I think she just, I don't know if she plays both sides. She likes them both. I mean, she, this happened when she was like eight. So she's like basically known them both as as her dad's.

How about all the siblings? all your aunts and uncles, are they all same wife since the beginning? Or is history repeating itself? Yeah. No, history did not repeat itself. Everybody's kind of, kind of with their. They do say some of this stuff skips a generation. Ah, yeah.

What's your relationship like, Luke? You got any good friends? I recently just got married, so I'm hoping that this doesn't, this doesn't repeat itself. You do not want to end up like Grandpa Peter. I can tell you that much. Don't go to too many game nights.

with the friends. We have been doing a lot more game nights lately. It's a slippery slope. One night of trivia. That's right. And I wouldn't tell them this story. It's going to get some people at that game night, some fresh ideas. This is like my story to tell.

I usually leave with this. It's good. First date material. Get out in front of it. It's smart. Yeah. Just in case they, just in case they had an idea is they trying to know that it's been done before.

I mean, it kind of sucks. Your family could have really cashed in on this. Could have got a cash grab, and you guys could have been on the show Wife Swap. I mean, Oh, yeah. You guys really fumbled a bag on that. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, given that this happened in the 70s, I heard that there was, I haven't seen it, but there is a show called The Wife Swap. Is that what you're talking about? That's exactly what I'm talking about. That was the reference. It broke up a little bit.

I haven't seen it, but yeah. Yeah, it's just, it's too close to home. You don't ever want to see it. Yeah. No, it's like actors who are in a movie, they never end up watching a movie. Yeah. It's like you've been, you were in there. Swat Swabb.

You don't want to watch the show. Like I imagine the people who are on the Titanic just have never watched the movie. Just opens too many fresh wounds. We never want to go on cruises. Yeah. You get it. They're kind of landlocked people after that. you know.

Yeah. I move to the Midwest. So what's the mystery? What happened? Well, we don't know. We don't know exactly what happened. So have you, has anyone decided to just bite the bullet and ask?

Not that I know of. I don't think that. Who got drunk enough to ask at the wedding? One of my other aunts. So they married into the family aunt. Gosh. Classic. Classic.

That's great. Okay, so Peter's not, you know, he's not telling the full story. So maybe we got to go after Ben at the next family wedding and have the same in-law. Ask the question to Ben. Yeah, that could be it. I mean, I feel like Ben is more willing to let it fly. And why are we letting Shannon and Allison off the hook here? Because we could be asking them, too.

Shannon doesn't really come around very often. And Allison, unfortunately, passed away. Oh, sorry. Sorry about that. Call Ben up. Get him on the phone. He hasn't really answered the phone. He's not very tech savvy.

And you're worried about him listening to this podcast? No. Yeah, no. My wife was just saying that I shouldn't give the names, but I was going to. Well, we're already down this train. Your wife seems like a smart gal. Yeah, she's a lawyer. She wanted to keep us protected.

Okay. Smart. So how long you've been married? Just got about two years now. How's it going? Going really good. Did she tell you to say that as well? Yeah, she hasn't gone to my head right now.

No, things are good. Could you ever imagine you have a best friend, right? I do have a best friend. I have actually two best friends. They married? They married? One of them is. One of them has a long time girlfriend.

Have you ever felt any kind of way toward their signature another? I haven't, no. I know that that's what your wife wants you to say. Well, what do you say? No, I have not. We could do some version of a Yankee swap kind of thing here instead of we did three. You want to do a three-way swap? You want to do a wives swap instead of a wife swap?

I mean, you got a one-up. Grandpa Ben, right? See, dude, I told you, it's like in their blood. You know what I mean? Yeah, you can't, you can't get it out. It's going to be around. You're going to be fighting those demons your whole life. What town was this?

This is in New York to Westchester, New York. Okay. So, yeah, I don't think this is necessarily a thing that goes on here. But, you know, we got a thing in Wisconsin called the Kickaboo, Switcheroo. folks in the western part of the state along the Kickapoo River have been known to, you know, at some point realize I like you more, you like me more, she likes him more, he likes her more, and rock and roll, you know, it's common. It's a hotbed for wife swapping.

It is. Some in the water. So we're in the river, yeah. We're accustomed to this year in the Midwest, you know, teach their own and, you know, we don't lay judgment upon it. That's for the good Lord to do, which is where the guilt comes from. I love how Charlie always acts like we never pass judgment. We don't.

Like this entire podcast is just us passing judgment constantly. I like the facade, though. I like to make people feel comfortable. It's just like the most Catholic shit ever. You know, it's like, hey, we do what the good Lord says. But hey, you want to come over later and gamble and get hammered? talk shit about our neighbors yeah

yeah now Luke does this impact you do you feel like something's lost or something's missing or do you just feel like you get extra presents on Christmas

it's more just the extra presents than different two different Christmases I mean my parents are divorced too so I get another Christmas there too you have a plethora of Christmases rolling in it man yeah

when was the last time you bought socks and underwear I bet never literally never I get socks every single year from all three Christmases that's great yeah they're necessary

to the point where he's just like giving it away to the homeless yeah it's like I just have so many Christmases so many socks I can't wear them all that must be where St. Nick came from you know he had two grandpas and divorce he's like hey gotta get rid of all these damn stockings I go hang them on people's fireplace

yeah we actually just we didn't give away socks but we did just started like cleaning that. My wife wanted to start cleaning out the closet. So we got rid of like half more than half my clothes and we just dumped it to like goodwill. Half his clothes. It was mainly my clothes. She's just making room for. Oh, she's a lawyer. She's, you can't get rid a good pants suit, you know? No. Yeah, that's right. What does your wife think of all this? Yeah, how did it go on the first date when he told her? I didn't tell her this on the first day. it's my new bar story to tell, leaning into it more.

But she, I mean, she learned it more than I did at first. My dad tried to, like, draw it out for me. And my mom did too. And it, like, it wasn't sticking. I feel like I've finally, like, figured out how to give the story properly. So it might have been not as confusing here. But like, she's definitely picked it out way quicker than I did. Yeah.

I mean, it does take some pictures. If your visual learner, it's hard to. This did help, Charles. good job. Thank you. For those that are wondering, this is. Yeah. This is Charlie.

I'd like to see how you drew it out, because we also, I mean, my, my mother-in-law's side is very big at Ancestry.com and doing all the genealogy. And she had a field day with this. And she, it kind of broke Ancestry.com. Server is crashing. Well, because there's a connection between each of the wives.

So you kind of have, I've never seen this before. I was playing around with her family trees a ton. you actually have to toggle between people because you can't just see both combinations. Otherwise, they would have this person show up twice. So it's like... Yeah, I mean, your family tree lights up like a Christmas tree on Ancestry.com. Yeah, it's less of a family tree. It's more of like a family flowchart.

It's like that one doctor worked at the sperm bank that was just using his sperm for everyone. You ever see that documentary? It's a wild documentary if you're going to watch it. Yeah. I can see that. Yeah. It's, you're basically living that out,

but no sperm bank. Yeah. Just Peter and Ben are the sperm bank. Yeah. Can you just tell them that really? You guys really run a tight sperm bank. Yeah. Charlie,

do you know anyone? You said it's very common up there. Do you know anyone who's done this? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I know, well, I know.

at least four people have done it. And one of them had two kids. I think the other one had one, maybe another from a different marriage. And then, yeah, they just decided. And they're still good friends. They just live, you know, up the river. Well, town over, but the river goes up that way. But yeah.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. A buddy of mine, in fact, told me about it. And I was like, that's fascinating. And then he said, did you know so-and-so-and-so-kick-a-poo-suitz-roo? I said, no. Well, I'll be darned. And they'll talk about it quite often, you know.

In fact, I think two of them still own the same house legally. They just never, you know, got it on the books. Yeah. So, yeah, it'll happen, you know, and that's how it goes. You know, sometimes you just can't have two fishes swimming too close to each other without ending up in the same spawn bed. Eat each other. Yeah, eat each other.

Well, that would have been a better way to end that one, Miles. Yeah. I like the take a poo-soochoochoo. I'm going to start using that. Yeah. Yeah. Mm-hmm. No, I think you did a good job explaining it.

It was. All right. Good. Charlie's visual aids helped a lot. Yeah. So is there anything lingering, though, with you, though? Like anything you want to talk about? Have you talked about this with your therapist? Yeah.

No, I haven't talked about this with my therapist. I was kind of holding it back for this call. Well, tell us. What cranks your gears about it? What are you feeling? No, I mean, you know, with this whole thing, you know, there's two sides and some of the sides of the families are, you know, keeping to themselves a little bit.

And that's thus the multiple holidays. But, you know, some moved out to the West Coast and they kind of do their own thing. and it's there's kind of two teams going on here so so there's no I didn't ask about how your family feels about it I asked how do you feel about it do you feel like you missed out on anything no I don't think I missed out of anything I think I think I think everything's good I think we I was just curious what was going on I just want I don't know for sure if somebody got cheated on or not or if they were just swingers he's curious like a 12 year old boy in the shower yeah what's going on what happens if I poke this

You know? These are the things that I think about. Yeah, I mean, I suppose you don't know any different. So that's why I asked, that's why I asked, yeah, that's why I asked about your mom's psychological damage to this because she would be the one that would be directly affected. Yeah, she's a compartmentalizer. She doesn't really talk about her feelings like that. So it's, I guess I could ask, but. Well, maybe we'll get on the podcast in the future and ask.

I'll tell you this. What I noticed, um, what I noticed? with my grandma Sue is that I've taken her to the casino a bunch over the years. And the more I take her to the casino, the more she just starts talking. And so I wonder, maybe you get some one-on-one time with Ben or Peter, and you don't even bring it up. But, you know, you guys, do either I like to gamble? Peter does, yeah.

But start taking Peter to the casino. You know, he's probably looking for a good casino partner. what we call the butter up technique. You just butter them up with casino time. Uh-huh. Maybe slipping 20 in one of their slots when no one's booking. And Peter's probably familiar with that. Oh, yeah.

Peter's been slipping 20s in slots his whole life. Mm-hmm. It looks like he... Slot machines that he's not even supposed to be on. 20 million, in fact, if we're doing the sperm count. But I would say, yeah, just... And I bet you over time, over time, I'm guessing. that you're going to

you're going to get some more details trickling out. So you just say, Peter, how did you, how'd you and Shannon meet, you know? As if he doesn't know. I mean, he knows that I know. I mean, this is one of my grandparents.

Yeah, you know what to do. But or Bob been asking the right questions. Just start asking, ask questions about what he was doing back that, you know? Like, what did you guys do for fun? you know i think they did coke i think that's part of what they did for fun back then was it they were big big into the cocaine huh well my grandpa at it had his 80th birthday started telling us a story about about all of his friends doing coke so what was a story yeah my friends were doing

coke smart yeah well at his party actually part of like the the decorations were like these little mirrors, these square mirrors. Like as placeholders for everybody's seat and it just had like paint on it that looked like a line of Coke. And so that was just probably a blast from the past for him. Yeah, he's just. He was back in Vietnam. Wait a second. Wait a second.

So what was Peter doing for this was Peter's birthday? You said? This was Peter. Yeah. What did he do for a living? Was he a Wall Street guy? He was a lawyer. lawyer.

Ah, okay. It's all together. And anyway, they've working and so, okay, that's fun. That's good to know. That's real good to know. So he was a little party. He used a lot of grandpas that you go like, yeah, he's a Coke head. Yeah.

I don't think he does Coke anymore. I mean, I don't know. I think he could. I don't really check up on. If someone's an alcoholic when they're 25, were they still an alcoholic when they're 80? I guess it depends on the could be. Well.

You could stop. Well, no, I'm saying he doesn't have to do Coke now. It doesn't mean he's still not a Coke. Oh, yeah. That's fair. Is he still a big part? Well, you say he was drunk when he was talking about this. Ben was.

Yeah, he was. He got pretty good energy for an old guy. Got really good energy for an old guy. Yeah. So, yeah, you're right. He still might be on the Coke. I just haven't put two and two together on this. And that's what you call into this podcast, Charlie.

Exactly. I uncovered things that I, wasn't even thinking about. I was trying to figure out. Yeah, I was trying to figure out the wife's walking now. So buy him a dime bag and then he'll really open up. Yeah. Yeah, that's true.

Just give him a little placebo. Let's just see what happens. Flower. The one other thing that I thought of is you're actually in the best scenario possible. And me and my siblings are talking about this, that the best person to be in a divorced family is, the grandkids because you get all the benefits of having multiple Christmases with none of the childhood trauma of your parents getting divorced. Oh, that's true. So you're in a phenomenal

spot. No, it definitely rocks. That's why I was saying like it's there's no trauma at all. Like, no therapist needed. It's just, it's just, just, just questions is all I have. Oh, yeah. Well, dude, we appreciate you sharing your story with us here on the podcast. It's quite the, quite the situation you're in. And again, that advice, take Peter over the casino. Ask him if you had any more side pieces over the years. Yeah,

might have another family. Warm up to that one. Yeah, I mean, the 70s, the 70s was the era of secret families. Just so you know. Yeah,

I mean, you say you haven't seen Shannon much. Maybe she's got a secret family. She could. She could. She's out in Colorado now, so I might have to pay a visit over there. So Peter's at home.

and she's in Colorado? Well, they're not together anymore, either. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Do you know why? Dude, why didn't you lead with that? Yeah, come on, dude. We're just wrapping up the call.

Now you're like Shannon's got another family in Colorado. I got to upgrade the diagram now. Oh, my God. Here we go. Okay, so let's just put, what do we want to name mystery guy for Shannon? Do you know Shannon's partner? No, she's not with anybody. right now. Shannon actually, Shannon's the one that is technically not related to me. Yeah, I can see

that through this chart. Yeah. So she's the one because Ben married, you know, Allison, who then obviously I'm related to them in that way, but Shannon was never related to me. So I think your, your grandparents need to get in the same nursing home and run it back. They're both free. Oh, yeah. That's true. Peter and. Ben, Peter and Ben need to run it back in the nursing home. Well, Ben has remarried too. And actually just got. What? He will, he, so he remarried again.

And then after Allison passed away, remarried again for a while for like 15 years. And he actually just got divorced like last week. Well, now I'm fully confused. That, that step grandma have any kids? she does but yeah she had not with him not with him no not with him no I understand that but then there's just more step step

aunts and uncles for you I don't really know them that well does they keep it packed away I don't really see them but yeah I guess I feel the same way I wouldn't want to get into this train wreck of a family but grandpa Ben now he's he's dating again and we went to the holidays

for Thanksgiving again for Christmas and he brought a date along and it just, I don't know, it just felt a little weird having 80-year-olds dating. They don't do the apps like Tinder or anything. He actually has like a matchmaker. And we were at Thanksgiving and he just, he had printouts like eight by 10 printouts of just portrait pictures of people. All right.

I think we just solved the mystery, Charlie. First of all, your grandpa Ben is the horniest guy I've ever heard of my entire life. one, two, Peter, Peter didn't do shit. Peter is an innocent bystander in this whole thing. Ben, he's trying to stick his dick anywhere he can. And he started messing around with Allison. She fell for his little games, broke up all that. And as you can see, he's just redoing this over and over again.

Ben is the culprit. Yeah. If this is a classic who done it, Ben done it. Ben done it. We solved it right here. That was definitely my theory, too. I mean, it was just ridiculous. He, like, ran to his office to grab the 8 by 10,

stapled together. There was, like, 10 pictures of people. And he was like, get a look at this person. That's crazy. That is, I'm going to bring her to Christmas. I just imagine him standing by the printer waiting for him to come out. Just give you a second here. They're coming out.

There's just a, oh, one fell on the floor. Oh. God, there goes Cindy. Yeah, Cindy's pretty hot. Like a news print. Yeah. Yeah, I just hope to have that kind of energy when I'm waiting. Alvi, keep doing Coke.

I've never done Coke. Your wife's a lawyer on the other side. Yeah. That's true. That's true. Well, she's pregnant. I hope she's not doing Coke. Oh, congratulations.

Congratulations. That's why we got rid of, that's why we got rid of half my shit. Yeah, it's our first one. Well, you're, you. There's two ways to get rid of half your shit. Having a kid. All right, Miles. What?

All right. I know exactly where you're going with this. What? And you willingly do it or your wife does it for you. That's what I was going to say. Oh, okay. Okay. So.

All right. Because the first thing Moving cross country Oh, okay, got it I got it. I see. Luke, we know what he was really going to say, though.

Just ask your uncle, your grandpa, Ben, he knows all about it. I mean, the child support on these guys. You could fund a third world country with that. Well,

I doubt it because Ben's the lawyer, you said? No, Peter was the lawyer. Peter's, well, Peter had that locked in. Probably. Yeah, Ben does like real estate stuff.

Yeah. Of course he does. This is like a great Gatsby. I'm getting great Gatsby vibes from the 70s with these guys. Both well off, huh? Yeah, they do pretty well. Yeah. Enough to have like 12 kids.

I feel like you got to have some cash. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I figured that out with the cocaine. Well, I'm going to be able to sleep good tonight. Charlie, knowing we figure that out. What's the culprit?

You think even though you're not on your temperatech? Oh, yeah. Or your cloud bed. Otherwise, it's been a disaster this night. All right. Well, we appreciate you calling in, dude. This is great. Yeah.

Yeah. I might need to call back in and give a belly update after I have my, my conversations to actually. We already got to the bottom of it, but just to put a... confirmation. Yeah. I don't think you've gotten to the bottom of it. I'm wanting for more details here.

So please. Well, we're a facts podcast. We don't want to, you know, we can make speculation, but we don't, we need all the facts. I'd like a little more tea. So get on over to the casino with Peter or Ben, frankly. Yeah. He's more of a sports gambler. So I might need to just go to his house and just start betting on the jet.

He's a big Jets fan and they suck. So might just need to take some, some prop bets there. I mean, what. a life of misery. Jets fan who also likes the sports bet on the Jets. Yeah. And potentially got cheated on.

For sure. I think we can go with for sure. This guy goes straight to heaven because he's been living in purgatory. Heaven on scholarship. Yeah. He's going to have it on full ride. Yeah. Yeah.

He's a first round draft picking in a half. That's almost a beatitude there. Blessed are the Jets fans for they will get cheated on. Yeah. And I'm an Eagles fan too. So that last week didn't really go too well for me. But Charlie too, I started to.

Yeah. Every single call we've had since the Packers. Yeah. Someone's brought it up and it makes me so happy. That's why I didn't want to bring it up because I mean, I just lost my team too. So Miles is just jealous. He'll never know this kind of pain.

That is probably a little. true. I am jealous of the pain. So all I do, well, we appreciate it. And thanks for calling in. All right. Watch for deer there, Luke. Yeah, you too. So your folks, it says, hey. Go to the casino now or the, do some gambling regardless.

I'll go right. I'll go right now. I'll go reach out to Peter. Do it. Call us back. We'll talk to you, sir. All right. Bye-bye. Yep. What a whirlwind. We got it, though. You know, you know that back in the 70s. after Peter did a little line stepped into his step-down living room and looked over at Shannon, gave her a little wink, you know,

on that plaid couch. He said, come on up to the Shag carpeting area. Let's go to the rec room. Let's go to the rec room. Do a little recreation. Play a little bumper pool. I could see it all. Smoke of Virginia slim.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. Super Bowl party season. and miles, full contact sport. You know, everyone's yelling at the TV. The dip table is overloaded and there's always one guy, you know, he tries to carry 14 plates all once and he's a professional

server or something, but he's not. Because then he hits the front steps, realizes those are not steps. They're an ice ramp and boom, pow, food everywhere. Someone's knee or wrist is instantly a problem. Dislocated? Yeah. And if you're driving home

and someone runs a light because they're still arguing about, you know, the call from five years ago, well, now there's a crash on top of everything else. And if the night ends with a real injury or accident, well, what do you do, Miles? I'm going to call Nicolay. 18555, ladies and gents. Don't matter if it's a Sunday on the Super Bowl. Give them a call. 18555. Nicolay. Hey, guys, how's it going?

Hello, is this Mark? This is Mark, and I've also got you on speaker phone with Justin, who's, we're a part of in the business. He's my son. Okay. How's it going? Mark and Justin. You know, Mark, I applaud you as a parent, introducing your son as a partner. Because if I own a business with my dad,

he would never call me his partner. He would just call me his goddamn son. I can confirm that's how he's introduced. Now, we worked together for years and wouldn't want it any other way. all right Justin do you feel the same way oh yeah you know

at times you know we've got a pretty good relationship and it's one of those deals where we've came to terms whenever we get a little mad I stopped going my mom first off because that's the way it's real for that but then now we picked up each other we just go to the bar and hashed out for a little bit

and we're all good that's good and what kind of business are we in we own an old-fashioned butcher shop in northern Illinois so you guys just drink old fashions and cut up meat it's a great business model that's it yeah we got our liquor license here so we got to make sure we're drinking while we're cutting what could go wrong old fashions and sharp blades but we also yeah so we're about we're in a little town there's like 500

people here and we're about 45 minutes from the Wisconsin border and about an hour west of Chicago. Okay. So you're kind of smack smack dab in the middle of the deal there. There we are. Do you wish? Is there some part of you that wishes you were just over the border here in Wisconsin? We talk about that all the time. Nice. Nice. You know the Flatlanders miles, they're a lot like us. They are. and then and then also you know so we make like like 80 different flavors of broths and then but we also do deer processing and so oh yeah Jared told me that because you you sent us over some photos of some deer that look like you're about to process yeah well yeah we got some

great stories I hear about a couple months ago I always I've listed you guys all the time. I'm like, you know, I was talking about deer. I should give them a bus. What are some of the stories that you've happened? Yeah, well, we'll start out, you know, every, every, um, every person that drops a deer off. We, they always got the story for us. We hear, we hear, you know, hundreds of deer stories a year. Um, and how many of those do you think they're telling the truth on? Oh. I'd say a solid three percent. Usually there's a little bit more evidence if you're not doing catching release. with the with the stories you can get a lot of them are you know where the size of the deer comes in

it's always you know I was shooting at the mom and missed and I got the baby yeah yeah or well you know it was a lot bigger before I feel dressed it exactly last year opening day because we do about 800 deer a year so opening day this guy shows up and I did I don't know what model of Bieber was, like $120,000 car. And he's like, am I your first customer? I'm like, yeah. He's like, well, I got the first gear on the season, I bet. And he pops open his trunk and there's this little ditty thing in there.

And we start laughing, right? Probably probably just spray painting the spots on it. That's all. Yeah. Can to get rid of the spots. they got the spray can out. Anyway. He put it in the trunk.

It could fit in the trunk of his beamer. Oh, yeah. Like my dog's bigger. So anyway, so we're like, dude, you know, you're going to pay us like $200 to process this deer and you're only get about, you know, maybe five pounds.

And he was, he's like, well, I'm going to go back to the city and tell my, all my buddies, I got the first deer of the season. And, and, uh, I'm like, well, why did you take the shot on the first day like this, you know? And he's like, well, well,

I, uh, I, uh, I, I was shooting the mom and I clipped the mom and she ran off and I couldn't find her. So this was just a mercy kill. Oh my God. That's what I said to and I'm like, whatever. Well, yeah, we'll take your mess. Whatever. So anyway, sure enough, we processed it. What was like maybe, what, five, six pounds?

Yeah, some like that. A little, a little bitty box. So he comes back to pick it up, you know, and he's, he was being fine. I'm like, hey, I go, uh, did you go out and find that mom? He was like, what are you talking about? I'm like, no, when you were here, you said that, you know, you had tagged the mom. You had to take the baby. You're going to go try to find it.

Oh, I don't know if you talk. Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man, I went out there and couldn't find her. And then, you know, the whole story. And you're just like, whatever, dude. Yeah. Was he on his ready to Chicago? well he came from

Chicago oh yeah oh yeah we just get more and more suspicious as we go along I think you just hit that with his beamer

that's what I think yeah you got tell him told the story about the we sent you a picture of a truck

yeah oh yeah it's a smash to all shit oh wow yeah and that was a beautiful truck originally and he pulled in

and a guy it was a beautiful buck he brought me um so I was talking a little bit I'm like, oh, yeah, how long are we to stand for it? We got, they said, oh, I've been in the stand about six hours, and I didn't get nothing.

I'm like, well, what do you mean to get nothing? What happened? He's like, well, I was driving home about two miles down the road. This deer just ran full speed right on the side of my car. Yeah, you got teaboned. Good Lord. Yeah, he got teaboned, and that's how he got it. T-boned.

Suicidal deer. Yeah, not happy with the forest. Was that nice rack on it, at least? Oh, yeah. It was beautiful. Oh, man. God, that's like kind of my dream, yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's...

Driving out to the deer stand in the morning, you know, I'm late, so I'm usually arriving around opening, you know, first light. Yeah. Scaring everything on your way. You're like, wow, you've got to sit out in the cold. Yeah, no, that's what I took a picture of that. That was a good one. You must have been running at like 18 miles an hour.

Look at that. Yeah. Well, I know, I don't blame me. He got it taped and everything kicked out. He got it on a mountain. I never got a picture of the mount. But I would have done the same thing. You ruined your car, get it on the wall.

Yeah. How is that going to look at his amount? He didn't go head first into it, huh? He must have tried to jump a bit. Yeah, I tried to turn and just hit the shoulder. Oh, geez. Well, hey, clear shot. So we have a 24-7 drop-off cooler, which is pretty handy, you know.

So people can just come. They hang their deer up, and then we give them a buzz the next day. Yep. And get their cut orders and blah, blah, blah. Anyway, so let's go. guy hangs this drop that hangs this deer in the drop off cooler and it wasn't field dress

oh no he just pulled her off that picture that's laying that essentially laying there yeah it's it's completely it was so we drug it out and Justin called the guy up and he's like you know dude you didn't feel just the deer and we got throw in the dumpster well the guy

loses this shit you know he's dropping the F bomb and how we suck and every processor does that Does field dress is it? I've never heard of that Never once in my life No no Why would he?

I just I mean Dragging an on field dress deer None of this makes sense You guys You need a detective on some of this stuff Is it bloated? Oh man Oh you talk about the smell

I mean we were worried about getting in the dumpster It wasn't going to pop because it was so tight. But he wanted he wanted, he wanted us to cut the head off. And we said, no. You know, if you want it, we're going to leave it here for an hour. And if you don't come pick it up, it's in the dumpster. Right.

He wanted to. And so that was that. We, about three of us, we get it in the dumpster. I should say we just in it. Yeah. I would say you sound like my mom. My mom's always like, we're going to do this. We're going to do that. Yeah. I'm, I'm, I'm,

I'm a little guilty of it. Yeah, a little, yeah. So they get in the dumpster, right? Well, so then literally the next guy that gets here comes pulling in, and he's got his gear strapped to the trunk. And he was a cool guy. He said, you know, his truck had broke down. That's the other picture you got there with the...

Yeah, that's a great. That's unbelievable. He's got it on a Chevy Cruz. He's got a little embarrassed because his truck broke down, so I get it. You know, he wanted to get a deer in here before it got warm and everything. So it was all good. It was all good. You don't have to be embarrassed about that.

That's, that's a, that's deer wasn't going anywhere. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, rack the trap to the Chevy Cruz. I ain't moving. So he goes, so anyway, we've kind of apologized. And one of our employees goes, hey, man, it's all good. You know, at least you feel dressed it, you know.

And he's like, what are you talking about? And so we told him the story. We just told you, you know. He's like, it's in the dumpster? And he's like, yeah, you know. So that was kind of it. No big deal. Well, no shit.

About 20 minutes later, we look out in the dumpster, and this guy's knee deep in the dumpster, man, this thing smells, right? And he's cutting the horns off that deer that was all bloated. And his kid was right next to the dumpster. It smelled so bad growing up. I mean, you can't make that shit up. He just, you take the saws out there? Yeah, a little hack saw, and he was just going to count on it.

God, that smell, that's, and this is, how long have been the dumpster at that point? Not too long in the dumpster, but I mean, the dumpster just stinks, but the bloatingness just from the, you know, not field just. That is leaking out of the thing, you know. Dude, that is nasty. Yeah, because, like, because I think the guy had the deer for a couple days. and field dress before he even hunted up here. Oh, God. He really wanted those rattlers that bad, huh?

Yeah. Well, his wife probably wanted to make an antler chandelion. Oh, yeah. He's collecting him. Doesn't have to go shed hunting this year. Oh, it's funny. Oh, the wife, you just brought the light. Those are always funny ones, too,

because, you know, we do, we make, you know, beef sticks, all different flavors of sticks and brats and summer sausage and all that out of your deer. We're like the only ones rather that keep deer separate. So we don't lump everybody is together. I mean, everybody gets their own meat back, you know. And so we're making sticks and stuff.

It gets a little pricey. And it's pretty funny sometimes because when you call up the price, you've got to be very encrypted when the wife answers the phone about how much the bill's going to be. Well, you know, so the beef sticks, those are, and you just list it off one by one until you can get, until the husband gets old. Yeah, you give them the price per stick instead of the batch.

So the sticks are three bucks. Yeah. And these are real good quality sticks. Let me tell you, a lot of protein in these. A lot of antioxidants. I'm a little curious. You were saying that you guys make 80 different types of brats. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. What is, I want to know a couple of things. Like, what's the most? exotic brat that you guys make and what's one is like your guys a staple? Well, I'll tell you, I just listened to a podcast a couple days ago

and we could get Charlie about sour patch one for his wife. A sour patch what? A sour patch broth. Sour patch brot. You guys make a sour patch brought? Yeah. Yep. Yep, you get the full size

sour patch candy throw them in there and you know, as you're eating them cooking them, they started coming to the surface of the skin, he looks like a little sour patch popping out. Really? A little sweetness. That's something slick. Were you saying that your wife likes, your girlfriend likes Sour Patchkins? She does.

Yeah. Did I say that? I didn't even know I said that. Yeah, you said it. I was driving back yesterday for Nashville, and it was one of five, I think it's about two weeks, two episodes ago, and you were talking to you said that your wife was a sour patch that. Yeah, she is.

That was me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was you. That was you, Miles. Oh, sorry, Miles. I didn't know that. And my wife likes Brots. Yeah, I like how I say.

I didn't know that because I clearly wasn't listening. That's funny. I actually told that to you. I know. It's funny. It's funny. No, yeah, my wife loves brats and Sour Patch kids. It would be a great, great thing to try.

Yeah. How well do those ship? No, we can ship them. Yeah. Miles? What do you think? Might have to. We might have to order some of those for Ann.

We'll ship this. We can ship you some broths up there. So does, like, the Sour Patch Kid melt a little bit inside of it or not? Yeah, yeah. It'll start a little melt to start coming out. Like, don't do it on a blackstone. I did that one time and caramelize my blackstone. It's not too bad.

You can definitely still see the outline of the Sour Patch Kid when you're done with it. So do you guys just get hammered and be like, what if we threw Sour Patch? kids in there. Oh, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. That's how you come up with 80 flavor. It's like a big one.

You asked for like the most exact ones that a skittles brought actually. Dump a full bag of family skittles in there. The kids actually, they taste really good. Sounds like you guys only had 60 flavors abroad and then went over to the quick trip and came back with 80. You get some Mentos too? Yeah, you might as well. I got a Reese's peanut butter cup.

Yeah, do you have a recess? Yes, the rhesis pieces. There you have to do tums. Yeah, get a tums brought going. That's your 80, that's your 81st flavor. Yeah, tums are pepto brot now work. Oh, God. Bubble gum, bubblegum flavor.

You guys, what, what's the name of the business again? It's Hettons. I didn't find meat here. And trusting. Fetton's or Henton's? Hedens H-E-A-D-O-N-S. Okay. Hettons.

So, yeah, even like on Facebook, our Facebook page is Hedens Fight Meets, and we're doing actually a broad extravaganza this week. So you can click on there right now. You can see all the, we got, we're doing like, what, 40 flavors this week? Yeah, getting close to 40. Yeah. That's awesome. Wow.

So we do all sorts of, we do a lot of normal, you know, normal stuff, bacon, cheddar, maple cheddar, prime rib bodsrella, which is a beef broad. beer beer oh yeah we do we do we do

uh we do uh we do yeah yeah um and what would

what would be your guys is like if you were gonna um put your whole reputation on one brat that you guys make

what would it be but prime rib yeah does sound good prime rib mozzarella god

who getting hungry I I love, yeah, so what? You just, do you have a whole lineup of candy flavored brots or what? Yeah, you know, during like brought extravagance, like we don't have all the time. Like we have all our staple flavors in the store all the time. But, you know, so, yeah, like he said, Reese's pieces.

We do an Elvis brought, which is, we're pretty Midwest too. We got the train one right by the butcher shop. I love it. You do a PNPR banana brot? Yeah, we do a peanut butter banana brought. Like, one of my sons' friends came with a bacon and Oreo brot. I love Oreos. Are you big Oreo guy, Miles?

So you know how you're like, okay, you got to remember that. Look at an Oreo package. Don't look at the serving size. Serving size is two Oreos, by the way. Nobody has ever eaten Oreos. And my serving size is two sleeves of Oreos. So, yeah. Wow.

You're wondering how I used to weigh, you wonder how I used to weigh 60 pounds heavier, Charlie? Yeah. That's a piece of evidence. Old double stuffed over here. Oh, yeah. Why did they even make single stuff Oreos anymore? What's the point? What is the point?

What's the most popular of your kind of crazy brats? Definitely skittles. Okay. Taste the rainbow. Yep, skittles. And then we do like, you know, we do like a maple root beer. Blueberry is a pretty big one. Oh, yeah.

Blueberry's really good like when I wrap, like you wrap a pancake around a blueberry brought and put some maple syrup on it. That is sick. That's really good. Okay, I'm, we got to make a trip down. I kind of want of my stock in them. You guys accepting investors?

That's a no. That is a no. Yes, but not from you. guys. I was going to say just the opposite. No, but okay from you guys. Oh,

okay. All right. Nice. Because I'm thinking, dude, if you put, if you had the Skittles brought since in Sourfatch Kids Brots on the internet,

you could ship them. This episode comes out, dude. I know there's a lot of people that at least want to try. We do ship, um, you know, uh,

no, there's not really a caveat. It's just, you know, it's expensive. Yeah. You got to do it overnight. and they've gone on Amazon or anything like that, you know.

But no, we ship quite a bit. We just ship broths and sticks. We don't, we don't ship any meats or anything like that, but we'll ship broths and sticks. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I'm just saying, you might get a few inquiries that I wanted to try that.

Skittles brought. So just be prepared. That'd be awesome. Yeah. I mean, we take it. We get orders offline. Like, we don't have online ordering, but, you know, you can contact us on our website. And then also, um, yeah.

On Facebook, you know, Facebook. It's always a good one. Awesome. But yeah, we've left for you guys to come down because we got, we got a little, we got to like a little bar here that we just kind of, it's not that it's open all the time, but it's a bar. And we do a lot of sampling. So we have our own barrel picks each year. So we got our own brand name bourbon and rye. It'd be great to have you guys down here.

Yeah. I'll have to bring you some brandy and we'll make a brandy brat. Yeah. There you go. That's an 81st flavor. Barron's parents. Brandenb, the B, B, B, triple B, uh, what do we call it, B cubed. No.

What? B to the three. What do you call B to the square B3? Triple B. Triple B with, you know, B to the third, a B3. Well, just call it the Barron's brought. That's good. That's better.

Miles is a better branding guy. You haven't noticed. If I can get my hands on some Skittles Brots and I bring that to Lake in the summer, my dad is going to be so resistant he's going to be like you can't put skittles in a problem not eating that and whatever and then he's going to try and be like that's actually pretty good

yeah you're going to be like where my skittles brads go oh they went bad I threw them out yeah no so like it's funny like we have our broad extravaganza and we'll have you know the whole case will be you know both cases will be filled full of brats and then someone comes in they're like I just want traditional it.

Yeah. And if we run out traditional, when we got any other flavors, they're pissed. Yeah, I believe it. I believe that. These are the guys who've been doing missionary since 1962. Since 1969, they've been doing

missionary. They like it just the way they want it. And they're like, it's dead. I don't want to change. It gets the job, dog. Don't want any of that hippie shit. Yeah, you guys are hippies in the Brot community. Just try it, man. We've got like this big old, like, map in the store with all the place our brons have been.

It's pretty cool. It's all the country, Alaska, Hawaii. We ship them down to Australia. Oh, no, Nanda. Wow. Yeah. Yep. Well, good for you guys.

Yeah. we'll have to find our way down there and if not we'll order some in the meantime i might get miles and skittles brads for next christmas shoot me shoot me an address on like text and i'll we'll make you guys a pack of brats that you'll never forget all right all right dude i want to buy stock in your company so badly his idea buying stock is just sending you a box of skittles yeah yeah you could do the packers route you just send me a piece of paper that says that i own stock in your company but i don't really hey but i bet you'll hang that piece of paper up won't you my house be damn proud of it you guys will like this so so me and my son we used to we used to run a

big corporation then we just said one day to screw it and we bought this business about five years ago from mr head okay and this and he started 19-s6 said of Mr. Head was a hardcore Packer fan. And, you know, I might mention what happened this weekend. But either way, the... You don't need to mention it. Everyone else has. Every single caller.

God, you guys almost got through this call without doing it. But there we have it. So anyway, but you'll appreciate this. One of us, so we make a jalapino cheddar broth. It's actually delicious. It's like one of my favorite ones. and but it was always called the packer brought. So I shook his hand that we would never change the name of that brought in the store.

So it's still called the packer brought. So I'm going to send you guys a packer brought. Oh, that's awesome. There we go. I like that you hold true. And you guys are Packers fans too? No, no, no, no, no, no. Bears fans, huh?

We're Bears fans, yes. but I live true. You know, me and my son shook his hand and we lived true of that word because I take a lot of shit when people come in the store. Yeah.

You know, we all got bears shit on and then, you know, we're selling Packer Brots. Wow. Do you have a bear brought? Bear downbrot?

Tell that story. Yeah, I know. We did it one time and, you know, someone from the city got mad that they thought we were,

you know, throwing actual bear meat in. Ah, I see. I see. I see. I see. That makes sense. It's good that people don't jump to conclusions at all.

Yeah. You could sell them in packs of 13 and call it the Baker's Dozen package. And as a nod to the Da Bears sketch. That's a little more subtle with it. You can have a brat that's like just like maybe multiple meats and just call it the heart attack brat. and then they sell them in a baker's dozen. Oh, that's good. I don't like that, too miles.

Just thinking about it, huh? And, yeah, just the, and the, um... See, I'm telling you, I'd be a great partner, guys. It'll be a great partner. Yeah, that's good. It's not very often. We're pitching them. I know.

But they're, I think they're writing this down. That's where, that's what that noise is on the other end. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just a pen scribbling. Okay. I kind of have a final question for you guys. So, you know, I would think that Charlie would like to think that Wisconsin is brought country. Would you guys say that or would you say more, you know, Bears,

Chicago Bears country is brought country. Wow. That's a loaded question. I mean, you know, I will tell you one thing. We have a lot of customers to drive down from Wisconsin for our Bronx. That's kind of make you feel good. A lot. Yeah.

And, I mean, we'll, you know, we'll get the guys that come. down with a nice chest and they've drove six hours and they're loaded up for their buddies. You know, as far as, you know, which state needs more broads? I don't know. I just- Wisconsin. That's kind of be nice. So it's kind of like Irish people coming to Milwaukee for Irish Fest, you know?

Yeah. Yeah. That's a real. It's good. Yeah, it's good. And to be honest, to one of those, you know, every small butcher shop like us, you know, we all got our own little niche, you know. one down the road has the best hot dogs.

We can't compete with them. And, you know, Wisconsin, they probably got, no, no, some brought that we don't have. Everybody has their own little niche. We're all good at it now. No, I get it 100%. But it just sounds like you guys are the ones that I wanted stock in your company. You know, I don't want a hot dog butcher shop, you know?

Yeah. Well, not to mention, we're a good fucking time to me. I can tell them the way. you said that. I figured. You're not lying. Well, we'll have to get down there, you guys. I'll bring some brandy at some point, and maybe I'll get a deer, too. You never know. Actually, that's a long way to take it. But, you know, I'd like to see the sausage you come up with. We'd like to see how the sausage is made. Yeah, we would. We would. Yeah, we'll put you at work and come down here. Next time I hit a deer, I'm bringing it down.

Yeah He's not field dressing You're like this too The last kind of years We had here Some guy had this beautiful You know 10, 12 point buck

He brought down from northern Michigan It was last year And we had that polar vortex thing Going on It was freezing And he rackets trapped To the top of his minivan Like

With legs spread across the top The side's headpoint in the front He got here The thing was frozen solid Of course Uh-huh. The van, the thing got all dented to hell. Oh, yeah.

And by the time it finally thought out, the thing was rotted. He had it, after he hit it, he had to hang in in a barn for, what, three weeks or something like that. Yeah. Oh, my God. Yeah, so not only did his van, you know, I think probably got total. That thing was destroyed. Yeah, he got no meat out of that. Hmm.

It was never too far away. That's a good PSA for deer hunt. Uh, field dress it, and if you're going to process it, get it there quick. yes they're quick yeah um well real good you guys this was super fun thanks for giving us a call and good luck we hope you guys sell a lot of brats well thanks for thanks for calling us i was kind of when you know i'm not a i'm not one of those guys that pretty much you're the only podcast i'm not you know i'm not all into that hey i was actually going down picking up turkeys at a at a at a uh for Thanksgiving.

Yeah. And I was listening to your podcast. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to call them. Because you could get you guys talking about a dear story. Yeah.

We're glad you called. And then I didn't hear nothing. I'm like, I'm probably not going to work out. And then I got your text message. I'm like, that's awesome. Yeah.

No, we takes us a while, but we'll get there. Well, that's a good point. If you're listening, you want to call in, it may take us a few weeks to respond

because we don't shoot these back to back. Right. Every week, you know, we go in clusters. So it might be that you call us right when we just met up and it might be six weeks. But we'll get,

maybe we'll get something good to talk about. We'll find you. Yeah, no, thanks for calling us back. That's awesome. Yeah, you guys be good. And hey, watch for deer. Okay. All right. See you guys. Thank you.

Thank you. Yeah. Nice guys. There's not a lot of times in this podcast where I, like, I'm truly motivated to do something. But I really want to try, like, the Skittles Brought. I can tell you're getting horned up for those.

Reese's pieces. I'm brought. I've been getting hungry this whole time. I want the blueberry brought wrapped in a pancake. Oh, my God. I know. And our food's been sitting right behind you. You know, I've been smelling it as we've been talking about food.

And ladies and gentlemen, it's been another great episode with you here on the bellied-up podcast. Miles and I are both hungry. And you should be too after that call. Yeah. All right. Tip your bartender and we'll talk to you soon. Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now.

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