Bellied Up - Wisconsin Trucker Hates Minnesota Drivers #176

Episode Date: November 20, 2025

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Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of the Bellied Up podcast. I am bellied up with my buddy Charlie Barron's. Charlie, how are you doing? Oh, Miles. I'm doing real good there. How are you there? I'm doing good. We're bellied up to our bar.

No, staying character with me for a second, Miles. Oh, yeah? Yeah. What's going on? Oh, not much. I just, uh, I've been raking some leaves. Oh, yeah. You know, I've been, uh, going out to the lakehouse just to close everything up for

for winter. It's not, uh, it's not, uh, it's, not one of those cabins you can keep open all year around who's got my friend to get that antifreeze in the toilet oh yeah toilet the water lines the whole thing yeah last thing i need is a burst pipe and a flooded floor out there sure oh no you get that you get that going and the worst part is you don't know it till the spring and then you had a whole ice rink in there all winter and next thing you know your whole summer shot Because you got the repair guys in there cleaning up and fixing and the other thing, too, is you got to get out there and you got to stain that sucker out there because you got that wood siding. You better stain it before the snow cakes now.

Oh, yeah. Before it gets enough snow to cake, you better make sure you got that siding stain. You know, I don't know if you know anything about how a house works, but I doubt if a burst, a pipe burst inside, we're going to have to do anything to the siding there, church. No, it's a different issue altogether, for God's sake. No, no, no, no, I'm not talking about it. Pipe burst, we were done talking about that. What I'm talking about is what I told you last year, and that said, I saw the sun beating down on the side of your house,

and you got nothing protected, and that's good wood. That's good cedar, okay? You get out there and you knocked that recently? Is there any rod on there? No, you're right. You're right. I'm sorry, yeah. You know, don't get up here big dick of me.

You know, I'm just trying to look out for your home. home for crape's sakes you know hey why don't you watch your own home yeah we watch your own bobber where you think i learned that from huh try to catch a bluegill with you for god's sakes you know i pull a croppy the other thing had shoulders so linebacker should have seen it oh my gosh so anyway should we uh so anyways we're bellied up to our bar that was good my That got me going, man. Bellied up to our bar. Our bar, Miles.

We built this. You know, we own a bar together. It's just not what you think. It's just a, you know, what is this? A seven foot piece of wood? Yeah. Now it's not seven foot. Six and a half.

All are overestimating size for some reason. God, this thing's like 12, 14 feet long. Did, Miles, did you see the bar for scale? I sent you a bar for sale. Milwaukee saying that we should make ditch chicken here. Charlie sent me a Zillow link and he was like, we should buy this and make a bar. And I said, I don't think we should. I don't think one, I don't think I want to own a bar that's a nine hour drive away.

Well, you don't have to run it. I know. I actually do. If you are in charge of running that bar, we have no shot. At least if I'm running it, we have a minor shot of succeeding. That's so true. like it would yeah i'm not good with like responsibility uh in the long term but uh i do like that we purchased this miles i you know we got um if for those we didn't purchase it and if we did

purchase it i would have purchased it true kind of like the bar i was hoping you would enjoy um well let's take a trip down memory lane charlie let's uh so you and i decided we were going to do this podcast. Yes, we did. We said, hey, this would be great. It'd be bellied up. We're going to belly up to the bar. We're going to have conversations that people have at the bar. You know, you belly up, you say, oh, fuck, my wife's been saying this, you know. Yeah. The guy's like, oh, wow, have you tried doing that. And that's where the premise of the show happened. Yeah. And what we're really saying is, how can we do a podcast but add no more work to our schedule? Correct. And we're like, well, we'll just have people call in. They'll do all the work for us. And we're like,

genius but we said well we need a bar to do this out because you know it would be it would be bad to call it bellied up

and just be sitting in a chair in a podcast studio yeah no one wants to do that so we said why don't we build a bar why don't we do a little video about building the bar

and we'll say we're going to try and build a bar in four hours I remember that yeah that was quite the concept eight hours later we got this bad boy and it took us a whole three hours to come up

with that four hour bar what's very funny is we didn't I mean we never flipped it over like so all we had to do was take four five six bolts and bolt these legs to this top because the top's already done it's a vintage old old what is that workbench uh yeah I mean that's an old vice right there um and we didn't bother to flip it over we thought we were going to have to fashion these somehow ourselves and And instead, we're already pre-screwed in from the people that we got it. So we literally had to put six bolts in. And that would have been done in 15 minutes.

But instead, it took us like six, seven, eight hours. Well, we had another plan to build something. We were, we were getting the things for the other plan. And in the meantime, all we had to do is just flip this bar top over. And we would have been like, oh, wow. Well, yeah. And, uh, my buddy's, that we got this from, we're kind of excited

to like, wow, this is going to be featured in this. We love this bar top. We were going to do something with it, but maybe better hands in your guys' hands. They were wrong. They watched the video. Like, wow, these guys should not have this bar. First off, they're not. And secondly, we realized that we

really liked going to actual bars and bellion up. And also, you don't live in Fargo. Right. That's where the bar is. And we're not hauled this thing to Milwaukee. No, this was back in the day when we didn't really think things through. Yeah, now we do.

Well, you do, but, uh, which I'm happy for you that you've made that change in your life. But, um, but it's good to, you know, be back at the bar, you know? Yeah, it is nice. It's good wood. Good wood there, Miles. It's not going anywhere. No, not at all. Oh, that's hard.

Ah, love it. Miles, I was thinking, I was thinking the other day about like, uh, I was actually in a boat and I was doing a wave and I was doing this wave, you know? Yep. I was thinking about the different kinds of, like, waves that we do here in the Midwest. We're always waving. Like, you got the car wave, you know, which is like, like, 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock, 11 o'clock to 1 o'clock.

See, I don't do that in the car. What do you do? I do the, like, one to two finger wave on the steering. I do that at the four-way stop. See, I do that. I'm on a gravel roll. I'm giving them the two-finger wave. Oh, sure, sure, sure.

I'm sorry, I didn't clarify. At the four-way stop, my wave looks like this. Okay. Okay, so you see, yeah, four-way stop, I'm doing this. Oh, okay. I'm doing the little two-finger salute. Two-finger, sideways salute. Sideway, I'm doing vertical salute on the dirt road.

Okay, well, the dirt road wave is obviously this. And then when I'm on a boat, my wave is like, yes. Okay, so you're going straight up. Straight up, no hand movement, just, maybe you see, you see that where like, it's not a full five-finger, wave here it's like the two the the ring and the pinky are kind of they're lazy yeah yeah no i got still one of those just give them one these are beer fingers high miles these are the fingers you use to open a beer top so these are your beer fingers yeah yeah beer fingers high give them one of those yeah these are which you open the pop top and then uh what i'm saying with this though with the 11 to 1

that's after you just cut off someone yeah yeah yeah in the rear view yep it's like i know i I know I fucked you over. I know I screwed you over. No, I screwed you over. Sorry, didn't mean to drop an F bomb this early in the show. When you do the finger point kind of wave, you know, like kind of like. That, when you do this. When your buddy shows up to the bar.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know the bar rail, you see a buddy, you know, you kind of get him one of those. Yeah, it's like, I see you. I don't need to act excited. This is the excitement you're getting. Yeah. And he knows you're excited to see him, but you don't need to take the time to put it on your face.

Mm-hmm. You know, it's like, what's up, man? yeah and um see yeah that's what they saw one of those how about this wave um that wave is still a wave uh what the fuck are you doing but i don't want to say that i just want to kind of do it with my hand this is when your your brother jackknife the trailer trying to back it out it's uh yeah there you know because you wouldn't do that to just anyone but someone you know very well who had just screwed up backing up a trailers yeah just like that Oh, and then how about this?

Let's keep coming back, keep coming back, keep coming back. Stop. Go forward and try again. That's what that is? If you told him to go like, you know, it depends on where he's at. This is right to scotch. No, I have to go to scotch. No, I understand.

But if you've gone too far, you have to. Oh, yeah, that's true. I think you also have the like white person on a hike wave. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not a wave at all. It's just a no teeth. head nod and smile and sometimes if you're concerned like you know you want to like really show your nice serial killer you go hi hey how you doing it's more it's not even a high

it's like a yeah it's just a short tight breath that sounds like an age hey hey it's good um because you you get you can't do it too early or they'll think you're like you know, it gives off weird vibes. They'll think you're going to try to have a full conversation. You've got to look down on the ground and then you see them and you go and you put all that thought into like your concern, then you realize they have headphones on anyway. They're not even

paying attention. And I think the final one I'd like to whip out there is actually my dad's special. I thought you were going to say something else. Okay. So my dad's not a hugger, as you can imagine. Yeah. I remember trying to So let's say you walk into someone's house and people are kind of standing around and instead

of being like, oh my God, it's so good to see you. Yes. My dad will walk in. He'll just go. Yeah. So you know what I'm saying? Yeah, I do know. You can do that sometimes too.

And he'll walk in with his hands in his pocket and he'll just go. It's just terrible podcasting, but no, no, it's good. We got video for this reason. the chin up and then the hold chin up for a hold squinty eyes too chin up hold squint to the eyes there you go it's like I'm

acknowledging you you know I don't want to be touched yeah and I don't do well with feelings you know like I'm not going to be like hey great to see you yeah you just walk in and are both hands in the pocket to know that this is a no go

zone you have both hands in the pocket chin down sees his prey and then puts it up and down up and down very defensive posturing yeah defensive but friendly you know defensive but friendly but also offensive in the sense he's getting ahead of it yeah he's like I know that you there's a chance you may hug me I don't want that yeah um yeah we got we got a we got a fellow uh my uncle's aunt's uh boyfriend um is a hugger and he's a great guy Paul and he'll say I'm a hugger right away and everyone knows Paul's gonna give you a hugger

yeah yeah yeah that's the worst that is the worst it's like the worst words you can hear when you show up to a place well you know the thing is you think that initially with with Paul you know you're like ah I got to hug him but now I don't mind hugging I know it's coming I know the hug's coming yeah and um and Paul's usually you know he's he likes his um his gin martini so You know, he doesn't care. He's past the point. I think if anyone's drinking gin martinis, they're a hugger.

Yeah. Yeah. That's just how it goes. Oh, well, Charlie, should we do some callers? Yeah, let's do it, man. Um, so, uh, all right, let's do some collars. All right. Let's take a call.

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I'll send it to Ann. All right. Grady, you got Miles and Charlie from the bellied up podcasts. I heard that you have a bone to pick with Minnesota. Oh. I do.

Well, pick the bone, Grady. All right. Well, first off, there is no Minnesota nice when driving in Wisconsin. Okay. I mean, I'm just a local truck driver here, you know, and there's just no decency on the road. Now, are you talking to Minnesota plates or not being decent to you? as a Wisconsin truck driver? No, that's true.

What are they doing that's really grinding your gears? It's popping your clutch. Well, what aren't they doing? Well, I don't know. I have to be going up hills. They're, uh, I mean, just there's no,

there's no Midwest nice from Minnesotans anymore. You don't think Not any Minnesotans. Well, there's a couple good people, you know. I mean, just the ones that have cabins over here, not a fan of them. Oh, they're coming in from elsewhere, huh?

Is this maybe less about the driving and more about them buying up your real estate? True. Yep. Who's buying it? I mean, they're driving the property taxes up because they're buying real nice cabins that are on lakes. They're tearing them down, and then they're building mansions. Oh, so you're putting on high alert that, you know, we've come and complaining about people from Chicago doing that in Wisconsin.

And now you're saying that the people in Minneapolis-St. Paul area are coming over and doing the same goddamn thing. Oh, I hear you. Oh, that's... Next thing, you know, it's probably going to be the Michiganders coming in from the UP. Well, we did just have a Michigander that came in from the U.P. gosh. Yeah. You know whose fault this is, Grady. Who's that? Charlie Barron's.

How do you say? Who's more the number one fan on the internet running his mouth about how great Wisconsin is. Who else has been doing that? I don't know. I don't tell you. I don't. Exactly. I think this is a classic you either die a hero or live long enough see yourself become the villain Charlie Barrens with all of his Wisconsin pride is making Wisconsin worse Damn

That's We should be first We have the best cheese We do have the best cheese And that's what I'm saying God you You Wisconsinites are just unbelievable What do you mean we're unbelievable

He was right That he speak on facts No that was all fact Right there We do have the best cheese and furthermore miles yes grady i was just going to say minnesota is the land of 10,000 lakes is it not i mean it says it on their license plate

i mean why don't you just stay over there in the summertime there's no reason to come over to wisconsin that's true driving our lakes you know boat around them wake boats are just tearing up the lake shores i can't stand them damn wake boats i knew you were going to be a guy who hates wake boat i knew that if you got the right wake if you got the right lake somewhere else then fine but you got these nice wisconsin you know we don't have rocks on the shoreline most of the time and these things tear it up otherwise you know that they do and the bottom of the lake disappointing you've been looking at the bottom of the lake

pretty sandy i'd say yeah well it gets rid of the roughage and then what are the fish gonna vegetate on nothing changes the whole dynamic of the bottom of the lake not a lot of people are looking at the bottom of the lake i'm getting down there with the scuba gear though oh are you yeah you're a scuba guy no well it's nice to think about sometimes i mean I just, what are you going to say? I was just going to say I put some goggles on. Yep. I got the snorkel gear.

Okay, so we're starting to peel back the layers. At first, it's that you don't like the way they drive. But in reality, it's about them coming over and stealing the lake property and driving up the prices. What else about Minnesota do you hate? There are nuisance when I'm trying to drive on Fridays in the summertime between Memorial Day and Labor Day. you can't get anywhere without having an hour wait for traffic. That's true.

Yep. Yep. It's just terrible. Well, what do we do about it? I mean, I think the, I should just say, let's go back to our roots and fish our lakes, you know, in Minnesota.

So you're saying like you guys should put up a wall around Wisconsin. more or less okay well charlie start the campaign start the build the wall campaign in wisconsin it's going to be big big beautiful cheesy wall we're not going to let the fibs in

big cheese minnesota I need an esophophila keene so I think there is having the wall around in Wisconsin would just look like the fence outside Lambo, you know, you guys paint

it's yellow and then you guys just paint stuff on it. Yeah. It'd be great to do Lambo Leats. That's how you get over. Yeah, like, all right, I'm headed to Chicago for work stuff and then you go Lambo leap over the wall. Yep, the only way

you can get in is if you can get over the Lambo leap wall. Yeah, you go. Which is tougher than you would imagine. When I was at Lambo, I tried to Lambo leap and it I needed a step stool. There's a secret. You got to go.

There's one part of the wall that's lower. I also was like 60 pounds heavier. I was wearing cowboy boots. It was a nightmare scenario for me. Yeah, the cowboy boots is what did it. Yeah. You just lose all your pop, you know? Yeah.

There's no spring in them stuff. No. So you, it's your driving truck. What, what are the, how do the truck drivers, communicate. I know they have all sorts of stuff with flashing their brights, let them know

they can get back over all that stuff. Is there anything else you guys are doing? Not that I can think of, not to other truck drivers, but we use some profanities with other drivers, you know? I'll give them a thumbs down now and again. Okay, I like that. No, I like that. It's honestly, I feel like that woman maybe weirdly hurt more. You know, know it's like if your dad's pissed right you're like oh my dad's mad this sucks but if your dad is silent and he just gives you the talk about how disappointed he is that hurts worse you know you'd rather it be mad right to the soul yeah give me something to you know resent whereas you know if he was flicking uh drivers off you know they're he's mad it's not as big of a deal but if you're

just doing the i'm disappointed and you're driving thumbs down that means way more yeah because i'm focused on how I'm a bad person and not how I can retaliate, you know, and it's two different head spaces. Or like, uh, Jake and the finger at you, you know? Oh, like, uh, like a, Dekembe Matumbo finger wave? Sure. He's a football guy. Um, yeah. Well, look, what's your biggest pet peeve about drivers when they go to pass you and they don't give you enough room in front of you so they're just passing you and then they just cut you off yeah or when they pull out that's not fun no you got a full load of stuff and then they pull out in front of you what are you supposed to do can't pull out with a full load never works no nope i hear you on that one no good how about does it

piss you off when uh you know cars get trapped underneath your truck you know that's the worst oh yeah getting trapped underneath a gas truck that's the worst i think getting stuck under a shit truck would be even worse it's true in a shitty situation i see what you did there you like that one yeah well played see you're not going to get that from the minnesotans they don't have our sense of humor no what are you doing right now are you taking a fishy sense of humor fishy sense yeah um okay is all their 10,000 lakes yeah I know I remember those I see them on the license plates um okay I have another question you're a truck driver and we've talked to a lot of truck drivers on this podcast by now you know we've asked a lot of questions but question we haven't asked and I'm

actually very curious and truck drivers seem to hate pretty much anyone that drives in the road that isn't them I've gotten that we're doing a lot of stuff wrong i try and be courteous now that i've been you know we've raised awareness about driving smart around trucks but do truck drivers have pet peeves about other truck drivers uh just stay out of the left lane you know if you're not if you're not driving fast you know just get out of the left lane you don't need to stay there you know you're talking about other truckers yeah yep yep so you're When you go to pass another truck driver, and you can't truck pass the truck in the right lane because there's one clogging up the left, it's like, come on, buddy, get a move on.

Here to get off the pot. Oh, I've seen that. I've been behind one truck trying to pass another truck. I'm like, are these guys communicating right now? What's going on? They're pulling a prank? Yeah. They're blocking both lanes.

Doing car pranks? It's like one trucker tried to pass the other trucker, but the other trucker thought he'd start going the speed limit. and now this trucker doesn't know if he's got the giddy up to get past them and then stuck in a tough position. Yeah, I mean, then the truck in the right lane decides to speed up one. And it's like, you can't go on. No. Like, just get a move on.

Yeah. Let me pass you and then I'll be going ahead of you. Yeah, right? Yeah. What about, like, truck stop etiquette? What are some stuff if, like, I was a new trucker. What would I need to know about the truck stop to not look like a newbie? Make sure you know how to back up and pull up straight.

Gosh, I see a bunch of people coming in and they're just jackknifing the truck and trailer. Just trying to pull into this one spot and just jackknifing it. Guys sitting there for 15 minutes trying to do it. It's just like, this is great. get another 15 minute and a half in and then you're on the road it's because all those new truck drivers are only learning how to drive truck on those on simulators you know yeah yeah those young kids

simulator can't simulate the pressure can't simulate the pressure I was in Boston once I saw this trucker just back it in right between two buildings with full-on rush hour traffic. He had an audience. He had an auditorium of cars watching him.

And he did it. And I just, I gave him an applause. And he saw me and he gave me a wave. And I was like, these guys are fucking hero, dude. I was so impressed. I was so,

I've seen people melt down faster at a boat launch than what this guy did, rush hour traffic, Boston, Massachusetts. it's it was insane it was insane and uh anyways shout out to him and shout out to you sir thank you thank you thank you what's your most impressive back in uh my most impressive back in where'd you back that ass up uh you want to rephrase the question well we're Where did you back your semi-truck into it?

What back in are you most proud of? What scenario? What was happening? Was there an audience, you know, was it, did you have three trailers behind you and you backed it in? What are we talking? I was in Dodgeville, Wisconsin, and, you know, there's the driftless part of Wisconsin,

real hilly and this and that. And where we had to drip back into, I had two little dozers on on the back of this dovetail and I had to go back up the hill and at the crest of the hill make a hard right and back it into the yard.

Wow. Wow. Yep. Dangerous. I threw the flashers on and let her rip. Oh, man. And you whistled that sucker back in there? Oh, yeah. Wow.

I got her fast enough. before they hit the Jake race going backwards. Let's go, dude. That's, yep. We both applaud you right now. You can't see it, but we are full on applause. We got to add this to our list of stuff. Every time we talk to a trucker, we need to, we need to hear their, uh, their most impressive

backup story. But we can't say it back that ass up. Yeah, you didn't like that. Didn't like it at all. Did not play. I was just trying to, you know, Lighten the mood a little, but Hey, that's good. That's good.

I know it can also sound erotic and that's not what we want out of this conversation. That's a different channel on the radio dial. Yeah. All right. Well, this has been great, dude. I want you to

the stage is yours. I'd love you. I'd love for you to do one last PSA for anyone from Minnesota. Just get it out. How are you feeling? Let them know what you want out of them and you have the floor.

Here's the deal. I'm the best there is. I wake up every morning, piss excellence. Just get out of the way, you know. I'm coming down, barreling down the road. Just get out of the way, you know. And when I'm not moving too fast, still get out of the way, you know. You can stay at home.

You know, you don't need to go up to your lake cabin. That's big enough to be a house. You know, maybe stay off them wake boats, too, because you're wrecking the shorelines. You know, I just, oh, it really grinds my ears. That's all I got for you. That was great. That was beautiful. Yeah, that's all I got for you.

Well, hey, you listen, you keep her moving out there. And while you're driving, you make sure you watch for deer, all right? oh that's the plan talk to you later all right see you soon now bye bye we forgot to ask him where he's at what he's hauling oh call him back no we're next time we'll do it next time we'll do it oh what a good guy yeah at first i thought well i was going to have to whip out after we asked a few questions and he says i don't know i was out i was going to have to whip we give him uh well that sucks because we're on a podcast he warmed up you know like When I think of a Wisconsin trucker, you know, it takes a little bit for them to get warmed up.

At first, I thought he was nervous, but then I realized quickly he was just distracted. We were the third thing he was doing that whole phone call, which, you know, respect. Good, good guy. Well, should we take another caller? Let's do it. Well, guys, it is November in the Midwest. The leaves are turning. The wind's got that crisp bite.

And it could snow any day now. could be coming any day miles any day you've been raking leaves and chopping wood every weekend and somehow pack with chores you didn't sign up for charlie no that's how it goes sometimes so miles you know you just have it but you know it's not all bad you know and with all those chores got going on you need to break charlie and you need to take a break and treat yourself so i think you should grab a glass of tippy cow and pour yourself some shamrock mint tippy cow right here. Sure thing.

Oh, yeah. It's rich enough to make you forget about that honey-do list. And you bet you it's made with real Wisconsin cream. You bet you indeed, Miles. So set on the porch, sip slowly, and savor the moment. That's all yours because some things are worth sip it on. So good. Real Wisconsin cows to be cow.

Moo. All right, folks, we have our resident injury lawyer here in the bar. with us today. Russell Nicolet. How are you doing, buddy? I'm doing well. How about you guys, fellas? I'm doing great. I'm, I'm doing good. It's not quite the perfect day. You know, I woke up a little groggy this morning, but I was, just up late, just worried about you, Charlie, you know? That's so sweet. Yeah. But I was thinking earlier, you know, we all think we know what lawyers are doing on a regular basis, you know, you guys are just billing hours, you know. But What's a true perfect day in the lawyer world?

Perfect day. Perfect day. Wake up well rested. Get some coffee. You look at your emails. There's no new emails other than just congratulations from your client. Yeah. Yeah.

The check is on its way, you know? Yeah. The insurance company has left a bunch of voice messages about how they have finally surrendered to you in every case. So you're feeling pretty good. Good, grab another coffee, call your clients, tell them, you know, hey, insurance company surrendered just because they saw it was on the case. Thank you in advance for all the accolades and the hats on the back. And then, you know, have a good morning that way instead of putting out fires and dealing with. Oh, this is all just in the morning.

Yeah, this is the morning. Okay. You should see the not-so-perfect morning. But, yeah, so you get that done, probably go get a nice lunch, get back to some more wins. and then kind of wrap it up with a few new clients calling that needs some help and very happy to hire you or me as Nicolay law of us in the clay so it sounds like a good day just getting new clients helping old clients and kicking insurance company but so wow yeah okay yeah i thought you missed something though i thought you were going to have like a good

hour and a half blocked off time to buy some more billboards that's true yeah well in and thinking of new billboard slogans as well right in the perfect world there would be actually a few people call me like they found some new billboard charlie would probably be sending me an email with like a new billboard idea that was just awesome yeah i want which in the email would have your your big idea would have been what charlie uh it would have been no no singing it's a billboard it's a billboard that's it though miles that's it every time a car passes or gets it's like a speed thing anytime you get within like a mile of it it starts singing and the best part is is i install this billboard myself i kind of want to start putting up billboards for you on top of other people's billboards you know

so like get a lad get a little cherry picker and like some big you know a big printer you know and just go put them up yeah like on the other injury law firms billboards you put one above it that just says don't go with stupid narrow down yep you got to do my more of those like like you got to do one right after like excite billboard think you're excited uh oh if you get injured while excited call nicolay you know like uh all right i can tell one you could do like uh hey other billboards do a billboard that says the billboard you see in one mile ignore please you know what i mean well then they're going to pay more attention right it's reverse psychos psychology mile after the other injury law firm you say i bet you remember this billboard

more than the one a mile back something like that yeah there you go but then they're thinking to the one they saw back and they're like huh what was that i have to pay attention to the next time i'm driving south on 94 sorry sorry what do you think about just making such an awesome billboard but they forget all that i mean that's obviously ideal but i mean there was there was there was Well, as well as an unlimited source here, we only got so many great ideas. Well, there was one, because to your point about singing, there was one that was, like, think for like a grill or something, and I had, like, the steam machine. The problem is that people thought it was on fire.

So, like, it did get a ton of attention, but the, I think the state patrol and everyone was upset because, like, people were continuously, like, stopping and calling. And so that was a really good one. But, you know, obviously, you got to make sure that it's not causing a problem with the law enforcement either. Yeah. Have you ever seen another lawyer's billboard and thought, dang, he beat me to that. Like, that was a better idea than mine. Have you ever gotten jelly of another injury lawyer's billboard? Not so much on like the design or content, but location. Like, oh, like, especially on one where you're turning and there's like kind of a corner, it's right in your face. And I'm like, oh, man, I can't

believe I didn't get that. Location, location, location. Do you have a billboard realtor? Someone who's like, Hey, I got a hot one that just came online for you. The billboard reps usually will, you know, hey, I've got an open one or whatever. Or actually, I don't know if I told you guys this before, but there's some billboards out there that are owned by like an individual. And those people will seek me out just because they know like this guy's a sucker. This guy will buy any billboard. I've got a billboard and it's on this dirt road and there's like five people that go down in a month. Perfect board for you.

You know, $500 a month. Did you do it? not on that one no it's got to have some traffic it's 500 bucks is a lot for like five people a month to drive by if i put a if i put a billboard thing on the top of my duplex um would you would you do it i'm in okay just let me know if you can get it up there even if you you know just i'll get you and just put it up there we'll find it what happens i suppose right my neighbors might be pissed but how often do you look up well so i'm from fargo so anytime i'm in a city with with a building that's higher

in five floors. I'm doing the... Oh, God, that's so high. I'm getting a little bit of vertigo looking up there. Holy shit. Oh, I got to sit down. I suppose that's true. For a Mount of Towners, for sure. Hey, would you like a bacon-wrapped water chestnut?

I'm good right now. Thank you, though. Okay. That goes against you. I got my beer. I'm pretty good. All right. Well, there you go. Well, thanks for coming on, man. Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.

This is Jay. Oh, the old Jay Bird. What's going on? Oh, we're making cornstalk bails to feed the cows for the winter. Love it. I love it. So you're a busy guy. Thanks for taking the time to chat with us.

So, yeah. Miles, how are you doing? What happened there, Jay? Did you just space out with, what did you say? I was spacing out when you said what you were doing. What's he doing most? he's bailing corn stocks for the cows bailing corn stocks there you go bail them up wet and wrap them in plastic so they ferment and the cows will just gobble them up like candy they love that

yeah that's that's uh that hits right in their their first stomach you know or whatever yeah yeah well jay i heard that you you've said that you've had enough with all the fib talk i had have it's time we come up with a proper terminology here all right all right for background though do you live in wisconsin no no don't say it like that jay no we're we're already off on a bad foot right now well charles i don't care what foot we are on damn damn jays coming in hot dude okay so where you where you live at uh central illinois just north of peoria oh yeah um I know super specific no i've been to peoria you know i i like peoria it's good town anyways six six generation illinois family been here farming i mean we still farm the original homestead wow

we got tombstones in the pasture that date back to the civil war wow so j this is this is really cool much respect my man i'm automatically regretting uh all the times i've said fib just knowing that that's where this conversation's headed yeah yeah so i mean i think we can all agree that chicago is like the downfall of the state sure it's a metropolis it's you know it it has had its place in history it is a viable part of the state but it's got to be the Chicago folks coming up there to Wisconsin that just giving the rest of us good old boys

a bad taste in your mouth. Yeah. Wow. I see where this is going. You're saying that by saying those Illinois bastards, you're saying that it should be those Chicago bastards. Yeah, but Tibb doesn't have a nice ring. So what football team do you root for there, Jay?

well i mean i was born just before the 85 bears so i you know it's it's hard to go against the bears but okay okay but i i will admit to being a fan of the small towns that get a shot at at a chance to play okay that was his nice way of saying he's he likes that the packers playing green bag because it's small town. I know. I see he's a conflicted man. He didn't want to outright say that, but that was his way of saying that. Yeah, that was kind. I did say Green Bay. I mean, I'm thinking about all my buddies from Iowa that have been Chiefs fans for a lifetime and now they've gotten a chance to see them prosper and they got folks over in Indianapolis and Buffalo. Yeah, Buffalo. They've won a lot of Super Bowls from what I recall. Well,

they've had some, they've done well enough. Just a bit outside. That's a misfeelgold joke. Listen, Jay, here's the deal, ma'am. In Wisconsin, we have an animosity to Illinois for the main

reason. The main reason is the Chicago Bears. And we have to have that. That is our lifeblood as Packers fans. Because without this rivalry, they just have an expense of a piece of paper that

shut up, Miles. It is an investment. Without it, without it, Jay, I don't need to be double teamed here. Without it, what do we have, man? We need to call you guys Phibs. We need this

rivalry. Okay. It's what fuels us through the offseason. through the season, okay? And I don't think we want to see this go away. What fun would life be? Okay, so your low self-esteem is dependent on...

Oh, talking like a real fib right now, Jay. I'll tell you that. Keep it up. Keep it up. I love it, Jay. So, Jay, you know, why is it that Wisconsin feels like

they need to punch at you guys, but it seems like Illinois is just not bothered by Wisconsin. Like, do you guys have a secret name for Wisconsin? Not that I'm aware of. I mean, I know all sorts of families that enjoy going up there and enjoying the recreational sports. Yeah, I know I'm too.

Throughout the winter. Yeah. And it's one of those things. Pumping money into local economies. Pumping money into local economies. Send it the property value sky freaking high, Jay. No, honestly, Jay, we, you guys do, uh, especially when you come up for the winters because like the past few winters the snow has been such crap so you know anything you can do to come up to the bars would be great especially in the winter that would be great the summer you could tone it down a little bit but uh you know if yeah if you want to if you guys want to come up and go ice fishing you know every once in a while that would honestly be fine because those up north bars i am not going to move past something here i i'd like to so when i uh a wise marketing person once said that if you

If you are number one in the industry, you don't talk about any other company. If you are number two or below, you punch up and you drag number one through the mud. And Jay, I don't want to, I'm just going to put this information out there. But it seems like Wisconsin's dragging Illinois through the mud quite a bit. And so if you go off of just marketing rules, Jay, you tell you. me who is number one and who is number two well marketing rules you'd say Illinois is yeah what but if you look at the NFC north why does Wisconsin have to talk so much about Illinois why why is it not go bears and fuck the Packers you know what's going on why you guys why you guys why does Illinois

have so much real estate and your guys's brain well they think they're better than us miles they think that Milwaukee is just Chicago with more part And that's unfortunate. They think that that they, we're just their big, big, big, big, big backyard. And they, they, they can just come up here and go real fast behind us and ride our ass, you know, and say you're slow. Well, you're not even supposed to be here.

Nice. Nice one. You got them. Yeah. Yeah. Jay, what do you have to say about that? Well, no more. I did live in Wisconsin for a while.

Right out of college. Where at, Jay? Columbus area. Okay. Well, you should have started with that. Yeah, they got the train right over there. Goes through. Yeah.

Did you ever get on that train? That am train? No, no. No. I was up there. Breeding dairy cows. Oh, yeah. You were breeding dairy cows real good.

Yeah. You ever ejaculate a bowl there, Jay? Yeah. Yeah. We seem and check ours annually. Oh, nice. Now, who is transporting your semen after you get ours from Selectsire's. Oh, yeah. Shout out. Shout out. Now, that's, you really want to find the right guy to be transporting your bowl semen because, I mean, that, you don't have much time. You can't afford for any way. And in fact, you know, maybe I should think about that the next time some fibs ride right in my ass. Maybe he's just got bull semen in the car. well they freeze it it'll keep no it'll it'll keep certainly it's not like an organ you know

it's not like you got it's you know well just the quick the the quicker the transit the better the deal okay okay a good buddy of mine ejaculates bowls and he told me that miles so well that's from collection to freezing process certainly that's what i'm talking about oh okay you can do that on sight I think is what he's saying well yeah you know what I mean I don't want to get too into the weeds on the edge let's get into the weeds no see Charlie's deflecting because he can feel himself his argument slipping his grasp and he you you ran over Jay's rebuttal to what you were saying about I was trying to distract with a little bold spark I know okay and it didn't work all right do you believe that Illinois is better than Wisconsin and that you guys are truly number one and that's why you don't

even feel the need to mention Wisconsin ever. Oh, that's a tough one. I mean, they're, they're so, they're so different and offer such variety of choices that I, I don't want to disparage the fine people of Wisconsin. I mean, you're living off the backbone of dairy and the Green Bay. So I just, I just hate to knock you down further, really. You saw them, my bitch. Jay, you had me all softened there.

My heart had been my hardened, calcified heart. It was ready to just give India, you know, and then you had to turn it like that. And I was vulnerable with you and started talking about bull semen even. and anyways, Jay, listen, you sound like a good guy, okay? And just know that, hey, can't you take a joke, Jay? Come on. Can't you take a little light, rip it? Oh, wow.

I mean, geez, Louise. Just the guy that just lost his fucking mind. Jeez, Louise. Now, hey, you took it blue. You're the one that's taking it blue. Taking what blue? What's blue? The language.

I've been nothing but cordial. The bull spunk, that's not blue, okay? I mean, I know I'm not a farmer, but you should know. No, not that. Okay. You're the one that's using coarse language that you wouldn't want to say on a Sunday. What? What language?

Bull spunk. Oh, there's been a few bastards and. Yeah. Oh, did I say bastard? Did I say that? Yes, you did. Did I go off on a little tired? Are you starting to see what Chicago and Illinois do to you, Wisconsin?

Did I cuss? Was I going out some cusses? that's not good yeah we have kids watching you don't even know this is a kids oh my gosh well yeah i was trying to keep this you know so you didn't have to write explicit for it darn it well i'm so sorry jay i see i i did kind of black out there i actually don't know what we talked about and um you know i i do apologize you got to understand when i was a little kid uh i grew up being told that that the bears were the enemy and that we didn't like them and they would play this song the bears still suck and i've never known the bears to not

suck and well it's hard to defend them it is hard to defend them and jay it's hard to defend my actions here today and i want to let you know i'm sorry well i i will accept your apology and just be nice to come up with a a more accurate term than fibb do it do it a toss, Jay. So, no, do it toss, Jay. Say something dirty about us. Do it. Wisconsin.

So FW, so W is a different one than NAP. So, we, Wisconsin, indolent, whip, Wisconsin, insolent prick. I don't know what insolent means. I think that's for diabetes. So never mind. a wap could you call us a wap Wisconsin

asshole brick oh a wap could be a wap Wisconsin could be Wisconsinite This is the most schizophrenic call I think Charlie's ever done Well I think I got him razzled

I know I know Jay got me J got me Jonesed up here and, you know, Jay, you're a good guy. Well, I like to think so, but. Think of a, just spend your time there, Jay, thinking about some Wisconsin, a little Wisconsin acronym here.

Because I do think there should be something to call Wisconsinites, you know, in a derogatory way so you can fire back at us, you know? Like right now you guys are bringing, you're bringing a knife. to a gunfight, you know, and, um, no, we got a army up here, you know, something to throwback. Hey, you fibs. Hey, yeah, whips, you know, but not whib. Something better. Something that rolls off the tongue. Fibb's nice. It feels like a. And also, I mean, you can't come up with what

you're going to call yourself, Charlie. I know you're trying to do that. It's like the most Wisconsin thing ever. No, I'm not, I'm not trying. I'm just, I'm just saying that needs to happen. And I'm putting a spotlight on what people are doing. Well, here we go. You know, we'll leave it up to the comments. People who live in Illinois, you guys got any good nicknames for the people in Wisconsin, preferably mean nicknames, you know? I mean, the best we do is just make fun of Iowa, really.

Oh, so how do you think Iowa feels about that? Well, they grow better corn, so they kind of don't worry about us. Oh. It's the same way Illinois doesn't worry so much about Wisconsin. yeah all right all right jay all right you got me okay does it feel good i i feel better about it that's what this was all about jay i just wanted to hear you out and now you got it out there we cleared the air okay we did we had a nice conversation yeah and my son's the one that got me to call you guys and i just had him rolling on my voicemail oh yeah he couldn't believe i

said all that but what else do you say on the voicemail jared oh i just just really stern and okay demanded this opportunity clear the air well you got and jay you know what as a little sign of kindness i got a show coming up in peoria i'll get your tickets if you want them well we have tickets we bought tickets yeah well they're a little nosebleedy but well i'll get just because i'll put you up i'll put you up in the comp seats okay they're they're right closer and we'll do a little meet and greet after the show how does that sound well my son will just love that yeah he's a huge fan of you guys and miles he's a children toss for nick you unit survivor also so let's go all right nice that's pretty good how long was he in the nick you for

just short of a month yeah it's a long time yeah we my wife and i were uh about two weeks before we even started going back home so yeah it's uh well that is you start getting that long and it's yeah two weeks you're like you know we got to go back to work but obviously i don't want to do that that's i want to stay here it's just no good situation after about two weeks he was pretty stable but it was just oh it was a long yeah the two weeks feel like feel like you know six months it's a it's definitely a tough situation yeah yeah so and he's gonna be terribly disappointed this call took place when he was at school but yeah you can listen back though you know that's yeah he doesn't even know i'm doing it so he's gonna click it on someday and be like dad

love it that's great well jah we're gonna we got wrap this up here but do me a favor just text this number your last name and uh i'll get and you just go to will call at peoria we'll get you on uh we'll meet you and say hi and and the whole deal all right the three three okay yeah sure yes absolutely you got it all right yeah i just don't want to take advantage of your generosity No, I mean, it would be like a fib to do that, but, uh, you know, you like what I did there, Jay? You like what I did there? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right.

If it makes you feel better, makes you feel better. Yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Now, I don't like it. Take your frustration out on someone else. I don't like that he's doing the guilt thing now. This is, all right. It's getting you good. Well, Jay, we appreciate you, buddy.

Um, good luck working today. And, um, yeah, we'll see him Peoria, all right. yeah yeah thank you very much all right hey watch for deer out there okay i will you too all right see you buddy well miles another great another episode in the books out in the books strong legs you got there don't touch my um ticklish you can touch it well charlie it's been great as always miles it's been great here with you i'm going to go go uh go go some somewhere where I'm not going to see you for a little bit, but I'll be thinking of you. We'll see each other again, and we'll see you guys next week on the next episode.

Don't forget to tip your bartender. And change your air filters. Cheers. Bye-bye. Okay, hope you guys have a good one. Goodbye now. Oodaloo.