Berner Phone - Alise Morales: Roasting Her Teenage Self & Texting Tragedies

Episode Date: September 24, 2020

Alise used to work with Hannah at Betches and today they reunite in hell. Alise updates her on her successful voiceover career, why she started roasting her 15 year old self, dating losers, remembering MySpace, when she got diagnosed with Generalized Anxiety Disorder, making comedy videos that went viral with Hannah, and how she found the one.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Burning in Hell What's up, guys? This is a very, very special episode of Burning in Hell. This isn't, you know, just a random person I found on Instagram or someone that I watch on a random TV show that I want to figure out. This is one of my home girls. This is one of my home slices. this bitch I've known since like day one at actually at betches um we have alice morales in hell welcome alice oh my god and it's a thrill to be in hell we've we've lived in hell together um alice

i've actually never told this to you or maybe i have and i just forgot but i feel like you've actually you were a very big inspiration to me i think in the beginning of my like me realizing i want to to get into more creative performing in my career because we were like seventh eighth ninth hires at betches or you were like earlier like fifth or six and we got sit it we got sited we sat we were so we did not learn about grammar when working at betches but we were we sat across from each other and i just remember you were so smart so funny she does and she currently does still which is incredible the betches sup which is the news site for betches she does writing emails you'll get into it more but i would always we'd have our little water cooler talk and i'd be like what are you

up to tonight and you'd always be like oh i have like this stand-up gig and then i'd be like what are you up to tonight and you'd be like oh i'm doing the show that i wrote at like UCB i'd be like what are you up to tonight and you're like oh like i'm i'm working on this improv thing and i was just like first i thought i was like where did you find the time but then i was like oh my god this stuff sounds so fun. And then I remember you wrote a show about the Kardashians. What was it called? It was called the heir of Kardashian Manor. And it was about them inheriting a haunted house. It was so spectacularly done. And we went and the fact that you'd written it, you casted everyone, you like made it this huge entertaining show. And I was just like, wow, she seems so fulfilled on like a work level

during the day and then creatively at night, or sometimes during the day. Sometimes. Sometimes. Occasionally during the day. With the betcha's up. With the betcha's up. And I was just like, I realized now how inspired I was by like your creativity and you're just like hustle to be like I can make money during the day and then I could do like

real comedy stuff at night. That's very, very nice of you to say. And I mean, I think personally, I've been inspired by. by seeing, if we're just going to kick this off by saying nice things like you said. I've just been inspired by seeing like your rise and the way that you said like, you know what? I'm going to do a podcast. I'm going to do stand up. I'm going to be on a reality show.

Maybe some people will say I can't do all of those three things. Fuck all those people. I'm going to do them. Like each one of those things is going to stand alone as a cool, different part of my life. Like, just look at us now. Look at us now. But you really were a part of it. but I pulled up your website and you are one of the few comedians that actually have an updated

website. I try. Which is truly the most impressive thing about you at this point. So Elise Morales, heiress, billionaire, billionaires is kind of what she's known for. She's a comedy writer and performer. She's currently the writer of the Betcha Sup newsletter, which is amazing. Everyone has to subscribe. Co-hosts of Betcha Sup podcast.

You've been doing it forever. You had an original show called The Roast of Your Teenage Self that is now been a picked up um and is its own podcast i actually was one of your episodes which i was so honored to be on such a good episode too oh my god we delved into it deep you're like i just want to know what you were your braces were like and i'm like i was at a tennis academy and i was so traumatized and you're like yeah you were like i actually did a title nine complaint against my school and i was in the newspaper and i was like oh my god what the hell i was like i became a feminist so yeah the roast of your teenage self check out that podcast in my episode in particular.

But even more exciting, you've appeared in so many shows such as difficult people, which I remember, late night with Seth Myers, the Chris Getherd show, and you are the voice of AOC on Showtime's Our Cartoon President. Yes, indeed. Yes. And those guys actually produce a new cartoon that I've been doing voices on called Tuning out the news, which is on CBS All Access, which is a daily news show that they like edit and they like animate within 24 hours and we interview real people as cartoons. It's been really,

really fun. That is so incredible. Did you ever think that your voice would be so kind of wanted in the entertainment industry? Absolutely not. You're a hot commodity now. I know. And I made I made the feminist choice long ago to have Vocal Fry. And as a podcaster, many people have come to me, begged me to stop speaking this way. And now the joke's on them because nobody's paying them to say anything. And okay, you are not the worst vocal fry I've heard. And also just because you have Vocal Fry does not mean you're a full idiot.

It just means that it's your. aesthetic for your voice. It just means that I am a young woman in this world. I will say that because for the rest of your teenage self, we always release a YouTube version so people can see the photos that we're talking about and stuff. And I did see a comment on the YouTube version that was like, this podcast is great, but am I the only person who hears Bart Simpson when Elise talks?

And now I hear Bart Simpson when I talk. And I think that that person was right is the thing. so you could take that one of two ways you could be like i hate myself or my voice is iconic as one of the greatest cartoons ever made yeah and like if i'm being honest like when i walk into a room i'm usually like what's up dude like usually me so i'm like hey man what's going maybe you've actually feel more understood than you ever had ever yeah i was like you know what that's not wrong so i also think it's super empowering as a female comedian where everything is like or just a female in general a lot is about our looks

that like your voice is going to get you paid indefinitely yeah and i can look like whatever that i can look like ass every day it doesn't matter i show up to these records i don't have pants on i look absurd but it doesn't matter because half the time you record under like a blanket so they don't even they've got no idea that's incredible do you are you enjoying doing voiceover work i love it. I love it. I think it's so much fun. I find it really freeing. I feel like I can go further with my performances and like my acting for some reason like not having to worry about what my face is doing and like just concentrating on my voice. I'm able to have so much fun. Oh, that sounds so exciting. And I want to start off with kind of how I think you got a lot of momentum in comedy,

which was this show you are a self-starter this bitch is a self-starter she was hustling at betches got on full-time at first you were just freelancing but you just did a good-ass job that's like then they just do a good job and you go a long way and I think the roast of your 15-year-old self was this show that like you had really no support with but as it just got great feedback over and over again I think it made moves but I want to talk why did you want so bad to roast your 15-year-old self and you have such a passion for it Like, you've been doing it for so many years. So the thing, okay, there are two things that spawned the creation of the Roast of Your 15-year-old self, now teenage self.

But the original show was called Roast of Your 15-year-old self. So number one thing is that I was dating this fucking loser. This dude who, like, I, it was one of those ones where I was, obsessed with him. Obsessed. And it's the classic story. I'm 22. He could do nothing wrong.

He's 30. I, I, he, I'm extremely hot. The hottest I've ever been. He's a potato. But at the time you didn't know is the hottest you've ever been. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I had no idea.

And I'm like, and this guy is good at improv. And I'm like, oh my God. He's my husband. So I am fully obsessed with this absolute, just like, plaid t-shirt, nothing of a dude. Like, it's so, so boring, such a boring man. But I'm obsessed with him in love. And he is lukewarm about me. I mean, he likes having sex.

He loves having sex. We both agree that we really. I love how you just, you didn't even say with me. You just said love seven sex. In general. And guess what? No one else is having sex with him. I'm the only person who's confused herself to the degree that I'm having sex with him.

So, like. What were your friends saying? At first, my friends were like, yeah, he's cool, whatever. And by the end, my friends were like, because this was a thing that went on, on again, off again for so long. that by the end my friends were like we actually refuse to speak with you on the subject of this man any longer and if you are going to continue to do this we don't want to talk we can't hear about it anymore that's that's when you know it's actually the worst point when your friends are like i'm not

here for you anymore with that they're like i'm literally not even going to tell you to break up with him anymore i just don't ever as long as we don't yeah as long as you don't talk about him we like we don't give a fuck at this point i just don't ever want to hear from him again but this was like at the beginning and um he and i were always now i look back on it and i see what was going on which was that um i was better at comedy than him and was clearly going to be more successful than him and so he couldn't be in a relationship with me for that reason because he didn't have like but you in your head were probably putting him on this pedestal being like he's so awesome like why would he ever have any negative like i just want to be in his space yes and i'm being like

oh my god i just want us to be a comedy couple together like power couple exactly brad and angelina exactly but i didn't realize that the power was really only on one side of the couple um so anyway he broke up with me one of the many times that we broke up so it was like a very on and off thing very on and off and I think I honestly and this is so sad it's so sad to think that the relationship actually continued on beyond this and that I I tried to get him back after this but he broke up with me to concentrate on his advanced improv class that he just got into because he was like listen we're going to have a lot of shows and like I just really need to be focused on my improv class not even a team or a class that he needed to take and I was like I was like

honestly I get it I'm heartbroken but like I get it so you're like one day when you make it big you're going to remember me that I was the one who gave you that time to let you take Abra Tabac's advanced movement improv class it was it was dance based did he have a day job his day job was editing videos for a school district or something okay okay okay so it was steady but it was steady and that was his thing was like he made videos and I didn't have like I didn't know how to edit videos or have any equipment so I thought it was like extremely cool that he made videos yeah um little did I know later we would be collaborating yeah I should up at benches not really knowing how to make comedy or videos but it happened and you can just do it

it's actually you can just google it and learn but i was like oh my god he mates videos use google you can make videos for yourself as well anyway i was i remember the day so distinctly i was like literally sad crying in my bedroom being like oh my god this guy this 30 year old man doesn't love me what am I going to do to make him love me? And then I just so happened at this time to stumble upon, I was like going through my Facebook or something, like sadly scrolling, looking at my Facebook,

trying to see what my Facebook looks like from the eyes of another. Like have you? Yeah. Yeah. It's like now that you're single being like, what would people see us now that I'm not part of him? Like if he comes onto my page, like what is the like what am I giving up?

What is my identity? What is the vibe people are getting? Like the first three photos, what kind of energy am I giving off? Exactly. So I'm doing that. And then I found this old album that I had uploaded in like 2007 when I made the switch from MySpace to Facebook, which was a huge switch to me because we'll get into it.

But I was an emo kid and MySpace was my domain. MySpace was where I really, I mean, even to this day, I don't think I've ever been as successful on a platform as I was on my space. I had been incredible. I'm laughing so hard because I fucking loved MySpace. I learned code. Learned code so that I could make my MySpace look crazy. Don't remember any of it now.

Zero, but I did know it then. So I had, I guess in 2007, I had uploaded all my old MySpace photos into this album to make sure that I had them. Which is so smart because the money I would give to see my MySpace profile from when I was like 11 oh so I I found these pictures and they are the perfect

encapsulation of the MySpace era I did the emo like the harsh cut bang and then blonde in the front I had that I like purple hair I would edit the photos doing like the duck face um sometimes they would just say like roar on them and have like a little robot and I'm like like with the little piece line. You had like attitude. Yes. And I found them and I posted this status that was like if I did a show called The Roast of Your 15 year old self, like who would want to do it? Because I just had this idea seeing the photos. I was like, oh, I really want to do something funny with these photos. It got like a huge response. And then I basically crafted this plan. And this is one of many truly insane plans that I crafted to try to mess with this man.

Like if he wasn't going to love me, I was like, you might not love me, but you're going to have to hear my fucking name, buddy. And so I just think of the Lady Gaga quote. She's like, you will hear my voice everywhere you go, every bodega. Yes. It's crazy for me to think about, but that actually spurred so much of my like early creativity was funneled into trying to, like, be in this dude's feed. So I was like, I'm going to host this show.

It got such a big response that I was like, I'm going to host this huge show. And I'm going to get all this attention and he's going to have to pay attention to me because now I'm going to have the show and he's going to have to want to be on my show. So little did you know that it probably made him hate you more because he hated himself. Oh, it absolutely did. It, like, it absolutely aliened at us even further apart. He did not want to be dating someone who was having success in comedy. He wanted to be dating someone who would suck his dick and watch his videos.

And be like, that class is so impressive. And I was doing those things, but I was also having success in comedy. And so he could not, like, it couldn't compete. He wanted to be with someone who he could be like, you don't understand the, like, the intensity of this class. And, like, it's all kind of above your head. And, like, I'd just, like, be there for me. Yeah. Yes.

And I didn't get that. I thought, like, I was like, no, if I impress him with how good I am at comedy, he's definitely going to want to be my boyfriend. And it's like he, you are driving, you couldn't be driving him further away. So I started doing the show then, and it was just in the back of this bar. And it just started getting more and more successful. I did eventually book him on the show. And by the time it was time for him to do the show, he had cheated on me.

so I kicked him off the show. You were like kind of together for a sec? We were always kind of together and then not together. And then finally. Oh, so you told him get the fuck off the show. Yeah, finally at the very end. I think that this, yes. Okay, so finally at the very end,

I didn't hear from him from a couple of days. And I was like, that's odd. I haven't heard from him. And then I go on Facebook.com and I see that he's at a cabin in the woods with this other girl. And they're making a video. Oh. It was work related. I don't think they're making a video.

Or if they make a video, I don't think that's the only thing that's going on there. And so that's how that is how it ended. And then in a radical act of revenge. I threw an enormous New Year's party because this was like right around New Year's and there were like two there was like a UCB party to go to and then there was no other party

and I was like if I go to the UCB party I'm going to have to see him and the girl and I don't want to do that so I threw an alternative party that ended up becoming like like sort of surpassing the UCB party? The place to be. Yeah. And I basically did it to be like, everyone's allowed to come, except you. Okay. For listeners, UCB is like where people go to then get on SNL. Like UCB is the top tier improv school. It kind of doesn't, it's in a weird way now. It's like right now doesn't exist. Pandemic times,

it's different. But at this time, when I moved to New York, my understanding of how to do comedy, there are like different tracks you can go you could be like if you want to really hit the stand-up track super hard you can start doing clubs and doing all that stuff but i had done improv in college and i knew a bunch of people who had come and started doing comedy through ucb so that's how i got into it but i want i want people to understand that like this tea we're getting is like if gossip girl was in new york city comedy club improv like this is the drama going on with new york city's top tier improvers and there is like serious drama that happens within like the drama kids who were in high school I feel like I remember the Facebook event for the party was called fucked up New Year's for glamorous freaks

you nailed it you nailed it and every I invited everyone everyone except this man this is the kind of thing like in high school where like the jocks or like the popular kids through a party and you knew that like the glamorous freaks party was so much better the people are like so much smarter so much funnier and like that was the real party to be yeah and also my party was like at my apartment which we had like a backyard and stuff and you could do whatever you wanted and the other party was like in a bar and had a cover and like all this other stuff and I was like no come to my house you can do whatever the fuck you want unless you're him unless you're exactly one person much of my early comedy career was just pure pettiness and spite and anger toward this man I love that but I kind of and for people listening she knows now it it it's also never about the guy I find that if you have bad anxiety and I don't want to project onto you but I know with me I've gotten into those weird things with guys who like clearly suck but for some reason you have these like obsessive loop thoughts about them and you can't get them out of your routine of like wake up be a

upset about him go to bed wake up be more upset and it's actually like you're anxious about other things and putting it all on this guy who literally is like I don't want to be a part of this narrative anymore and like I've never given you a reason to like be this obsessed with me but I feel like when you're young like the love like that is so easy to like attach absolutely 100% and like I always think about I can't remember the first time I heard this but um when you have anxiety like it can just pool somewhere and it doesn't mean that like that's even the thing that's actually causing your anxiety it's just that's where it has all decided to be and at that time you know I had just moved to New York I was trying to make it in this business that's really really hard I was you know

working my day job not having a ton of money jumping the turn style like just like I was very anxious all the time and I think that being obsessed with this dude and being obsessed with my relationship with him it gave my place it put my anxiety in a box like it gave it a place to be instead of just being this thing that was happening all the time it's like no I'm anxious about this guy and my relationship with this guy and it's probably like yeah it was a little bit anxious but it's way less scary to put it on to him and oversimplify it than be like oh like I need to find out word like how to afford living in new york city and my dreams might never come true yeah and like oh i just entered an industry that is extremely difficult to enter into i'm starting to realize and look around

and realize all the people who have like institutional advantages that i don't have like just by virtue of like um starting to realize like oh okay this person went to NYU so they've actually been in new york for four years longer than me and they started taking UCB classes when they were 18 years old and so now they're on a team but I couldn't possibly have done that because I was at the University of Delaware during that time and there's so much politics involved too with these teams yes and like you realize like oh my god I didn't realize but that person's dad is actually a famous director and so and that's why and they got an agent when they were five years old and I don't know how to do that stuff and I'm learning for the first time. And I also am not, you know, independently wealthy enough to not have to have a day job, whereas some people don't. And so it's like, you start realizing when you first, when I first came to New York, I was like bright-eyed, bushy-tailed, 22, and I'm just like, no, I'm the funniest person in the world. I'm absolutely adorable. I'm great at improv. And that's just going to be enough. And then you start to realize like all this other shit that goes into it. And all.

of these other things that you weren't even thinking about where it's like okay well actually all of your improv classes cost $500 a piece so figure that out because it's $2,000 before you're even allowed to audition for a team and it's like oh okay cool I'm nannying I'm doing this so it I think that this relationship was a really really convenient place for me to just put all of that now going through like you're roasting yourself when you're 15 has that been therapeutic for you at all or do you understand yourself a little more or even hearing other people tell their stories about what they were like at 15 100 percent I think um when I first started doing it I legitimately like the pictures legitimately embarrassed me so much and now I find them so sweet and adorable and it's really helped me to like see my 15 year old self like my my email address when I was 15 was Mrs. Sid Vicious like that is absurd Sid Vicious killed his wife actually stabbed her I don't even know the psyche of like how that came to be because I was just like I like

punk music and Sid Vicious is cool it's like girlfriend this man killed his wife they did heroin and then he woke up from a heroin stupor and he had killed her. Like, this is not, you don't want to be Mrs. Sid Vicious. You were a rebel. That stuff used to really embarrass me and I had like a complex about it and I had a complex about how angsty I was. Yeah. And all that stuff.

And doing this show has really, um, really let me like forgive that person and like love that person a lot more. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and just see her as like, oh, you're, you're just, you know, you're just trying to make it. You're just trying to figure stuff out. And you don't know you have bad anxiety. And so you're acting out in all these different ways. Can you please tell me the hot topic story? Because it's my favorite. About wanting to work at Hot Topic? Yeah.

Um, okay. So I, um, I, I was a big Hot Topic shopper. Uh, definitely. I used manic panic for all my hair styling and needs, was obsessed with everything in Hot Topic. Wan styled myself as such. So one day I was in Hot Topic. That's the way I spent many, many hours because me and my friends were definitely like mall rats too. So I'm like just wandering around the Faroe Mall. And this is like the D.C. area.

Yes, Fairfax, Virginia. and the sort of like rockabilly punk girl behind the counter I was like I was like rocking my look that day this is when I had purple tips on my hair and I had this really cool Ramones shirt that was like different than the normal Ramon's shirt I had got in it on the boardwalk in New Jersey and it had like a different vibe and then I had um my studded belt obviously obviously and my like a little flared skirt skirt and two high top converse a pink one and a black one and I would wear I would wear different ones and then I would have the pink converse would have a black sock and the black converse would have a pink sock So I was like detail oriented

I was very detail oriented I probably also had like a little bow Like a little clipped bow And the woman behind the counter at Hot Topics said Like I really like you know you could work here you look really cool like you could work here and my it was like angel singing to me I was like do you actually think that I could work at hot talk like do you think that and she was like yeah I mean I mean pretty like yeah I mean you look crazy as hell so

you can probably work here you look fucking insane so she's like yeah you look like you curse out your parents every night. Yeah. Yeah, you looked at you screamed at your mom before coming here. So, yeah, you definitely could work here. And I remember, like, taking the application from her and, like, sitting down with my friends and us, literally all of us being like, this is it. One of us is, it was like.

One of us has made it. Yeah, like, it's finally happening for one of us. Like, one of us is going to work at Hot Topic. And I'm, like, meticulously filled out this application. honestly probably put unnecessary information on the application about like my music taste and stuff like it was truly a standard forum application to work at a mall but like I'm like I lit and breathe hot topic you're like guys you're not going to be able to make eye contact with me in the future so enjoy it while at last yeah like I need to be here and I'm like

in my mind truly the way that now when I auditioned for something cool and I like imagine what it would be like if I get it. I'm in my mind imagining what it would be like to be the girl who works at like I thought that like this was really going to raise my profile to be the girl who works at Hot Topic. I was like it's one thing to be me as I am right now. But once I work at Hot Topic, my peers are going to know like the emo thing. Like it's a lifestyle for me. And it's actually, it's actually my career. It's not a choice. It's in my blood. Yeah, exactly. Being fucking punk rock is my career It's a religion

It's everything to me I'm so good at it I get paid to you Exactly yeah People pay me to be this Fucking hardcore So Anyway long story short

I turn in the application Never hear from them I'm absolutely destroyed by it Probably because I had no work experience I end up working at subway So And you know what's actually not cool? being the girl who works at Subway.

Did you have to wear the visor? Oh, the visor, the shirt that says sandwich artist, the whole thing. And it was like me and a bunch of, I was 15, and then a bunch of much older people who always had like very serious crises going on in their life, like being like, I, no one can watch my kids. Like, you have to stay for the rest of the day. And I would just be like, okay. it's like traumatizing yeah like I remember one day I was like I was there really late and this guy Arturo just never showed up and they were like Arturo drunk drove into a pole he's fine but you're here for the rest of the night and I was just like okay cool also subway has a very distinct smell I can't like I can't really fuck with Subway anymore because I spent too much time in there and I over did it in college I did like because we would travel to matches and we'd all always just stop at subway it is good but once you've been in it yeah it's not you can't you can't go back you can't really go back so I eventually left subway and became the hostess at glory

day's grill which I think socially was a little bit higher up of a position yes and like a little bit powerful I would say yeah because I was hanging out with some older people who could buy me like cigarettes and who could buy me some alcohol um and that was cool. So when did you start realizing that you had anxiety? So I got diagnosed with generalized anxiety disorder when I was in high school and I started seeing like a therapist a little bit and got put on Prozac, but I wasn't really taking it. I didn't really understand. It didn't like make sense to me that the way that I was experiencing the world was actually not necessary and not how it needed to be experienced and like because it was your normal yeah and so it didn't I didn't

understand how to label really what parts of my life were my anxiety so I knew I had anxiety but I wasn't really doing anything to stop it I went what caused you to like get to the point to be like oh I need to go to a doctor because I feel like so many people have generalized anxiety disorder and never do anything I was clashing with my parents really hardcore like we were just going at it at my house and um yeah i'm cuban and italian and what that translates to is just yelling yelling yelling so much yelling so i was clashing with my parents really hard um i was at the time i was saying that i was depressed but what I've actually learned in my therapy now is that when I'm depressed, like my depression

is actually more of a function of my anxiety. Like I get so anxious. When my anxiety gets unmanageable, it causes me, causes me to become depressed because I feel so, like, out of control and I don't know how to, like, do anything. Yep. So my anxiety was really out of control at the time. So I was depressed. I was, like, sleeping all the time.

Like, I remember I was just, like, sleeping. for like constant hours and then at one point I did dabble in self-harm like cutting a little bit but never I feel weird saying it because but like I know that when I did it it really was for attention like it really was actually a cry for help thing and I really only did it in a serious way like once or twice and it was you were doing it like self-aware as in like I know if I do this, I can get this response. 100%. It was something that I was doing because I, you know, again, me and my parents are clashing

really hard. I felt like they were not listening to me. And I really had that feeling of like they don't get the extremity of the situation. Yeah, they do not understand how freaked out I am all the time. They don't understand the extreme nature of my emotions, how volatile I feel. how much all of this stuff is upsetting me. But if I do this thing, they're going to have to take it serious. Yeah, exactly.

It's so easy, I think, for parents to be like, oh, she's just being a crazy teenager. Yeah, I, like, going back and looking at it, I really was doing it so that they would have to take some kind of action and that they would have to, like, take me seriously, kind of. Because I do think that my parents had a tendency to be very, like, Oh, woe is you. Like, you have a really nice life.

We're really nice, which is true. Yeah. But I also had an undiagnosed anxiety disorder that was causing me a lot of pain and stress and all this stuff. And I didn't know how to make them take me seriously. So I was like, okay, I'm going to do something where it's like, you're going to have to make an appointment for me. You're going to have to now take me seriously because I did this really serious thing. It makes sense. Yeah.

It's, I mean, and that's the thing is like, do. Doing the show, I've come to, like, I've talked so much about my teenage self that I've come to, like, understand her and have so much more compassion for her. Do you think she would be, like, if she knew where you are now, like, do you think she's proud of you? Yeah. I think she, I think she would think all of this is extremely cool because I wanted to live in New York from such a young age. Like, I always saw myself in New York City. I don't think I realized in my teenage years, I loved doing theater and I was such a theater kid and I let a lot of my anxiety pool into that as well, certainly. Multiple mental breakdowns as a result of that, but I didn't like, I don't think I really felt like I could do it as a career.

Like I didn't understand it. And I definitely didn't understand, like, comedy as a career. So I think for her, like, if my 15-year-old self could see me, like, in an apartment in New York doing comedy, she'd be like, that's cooler than I thought. And you've got a boyfriend. Awesome. And there's a boyfriend. Awesome.

And you're having sex with your boyfriend. You don't have to wear that spiked belt and he still likes you. Oh, no. Oh, my God. I do think before tennis, like I actually, I went to specialize performing arts middle school in Parksville, Brooklyn, and drama, it was like you picked a talent, and drama was my talent. And those, like, two hours during the day, like, they would shut the light and we'd all just, like, be floating around in class.

And, like, we were just such freaks and having so much fun. And, like, you remind me of a lot of my friends in that class. And then I think I decided to go the tennis route. And I really think seeing you at Betches and what you were doing, it almost made me like miss my like middle school self of like wait that was fun and like sometimes I think when you're hard on yourself you like don't think that the fun thing is actually the best thing for you to do but that's actually like a self-love thing to be like wait if I enjoy it maybe I still could get paid and maybe I could still get respect like as if I'm not slaving or

upset about something because a lot of time you associate pain with like success especially in the society yes and I think it's really crazy the way we like tell team teenagers, you have to make decisions for your whole life right now, you know, like, like talking to you about the roast. It's like you had to make the decision to be a professional athlete. And it's like you haven't even been kissed yet. Like you don't know anything about the world. And I remember when I was in high school, I was so like, my anxiety was insane about getting into college because my high school, it's a public high school, but it's a really, like, it's a sort of fancy area.

And they, like, really want to make sure that everybody gets into college and everyone gets into a good college. Then they made it seem like, I don't know. I remember feeling like I was, like, the next year, like, if I don't figure my shit out by the time I'm 17 and a half, that's it. I'm going to be homeless. And so I feel like it leads people to, like, there's so many people I've talked to on the roast who are like,

yeah, I went to medical. school because when I was 18 I was like I guess I want to be a doctor and then actually I wanted to perform actually I'm a comedian actually I'm this or that and it's it's so interesting the way we I think teenagers naturally feel like high school is their whole world but we also make them feel like high school is their entire world oh 100% and you literally have 10% of your brain developed you don't know you've never been anywhere you've never been anywhere you go to the same damn place every day and you're consuming like the same content every day but what i also remember about you is when i met you you already were dating this guy named danny and i remember thinking like

okay she's like developing her career she has this whole like plan in her head of like becoming a star but she also is like working on this relationship with this guy guy and you guys are engaged and you're like about to go shopping for wedding dresses and it makes me so happy because I personally love Danny. I've worked with Danny. I've hung with Danny. He's just and he's from Wisconsin so we like immediately bonded. I'm also going to post some old videos because Elise and I came up with the first like I'd say like first three videos I've ever done at Betches. The types of friends during a breakup is still one of the funniest videos. Oh my gosh. I think I need to post it on my Instagram again when I promote this because guys like we were basically told by the betches that like we were going to make a video and we could like basically do an S&L type sketch and Elise was like the other like the only comedian that was really working there who was writing a lot and I was like hey can you help me and I remember at first you kind of being like I'm like super overwhelmed and busy right now and then you were like wait actually what you're doing sounds so much more fun than the thing.

that I have to do. And I was like, at least, though, like, I don't know what I'm doing. And, like, with your confidence, like, I remember you would tell me if you thought something was funny. So I would, like, say a bunch of random shit to you. And then having your, like, okay on it made me feel validated. And then, like, together, we posted, like, a video and it got, like, a million views. Yeah.

And we were just like, oh, shit. It was the fucking best. And then we started getting a lot of, like, comedy friends involved. And you were a big part of that where I was, like, Elise, like, give me your most talented, like improvise, stand-ups, and we put them all. And Danny was one of them. So, but you're also, I'm actually, I'm dating a comic right now. I said I wouldn't.

Oh, my, I, Hannah. Oh, my God. No, it can work. It can work. Well, tell me, what is your experience dating another comic, especially after such a bad experience? And then how did you know he was like the one? That's my loaded question for you.

So, I think. think number one Danny is a very different and interesting person than anyone I've ever met and by the time he and I had met which we did meet doing comedy he had already like

he came up from Chicago and in the Chicago world and he lived like 10 different lives before he had been. Yeah and so by the time he came to New York it's like we didn't really have to clash over all that stupid stuff like oh you're getting these shows and I'm not getting these shows or you're getting into a UCB class or I'm not because

he'd already done he'd already come through the institutions that he was going to come through and he just wanted to do his comedy for himself and I was already at a place where I was just doing my comedy for myself so the competitive aspect never really came into it and you're I think early on your comedy styles are so different and what's funny is I actually find other comedians who were very different than me, the funniest. Yeah. Because I'm like, oh my God, I can't imagine, like, hitting a joke like that or, like, having to be doing that.

So I actually get, like, more impressed than people who are more similar to me. We are so, Danny and I are so different. Like, Danny is so big and ostentatious and crazy and characters and, and catchphrases and running all around. So physical. And I, like, truly stand at my mic and say all of my jokes. I don't move. And you're just like, I feel like.

I feel like you're like deeply cerebral, sarcastic, edgy. I keep myself really casual. I try to, when I'm doing a set, I try to feel like I have like a very light touch. Like, I'm just like, oh, here we are and we're talking. Danny is absolutely screaming, running all over the place. Like, you, check this out. Boom, boom. Yes.

In high school, how he was like the jock. Mm-hmm. And you were like the girl who he wouldn't. have like been in the same friend group as we absolutely never would have spoken and and when I do the live rest of your teenage self shows I have a mock up I use his prom photo and I did like a a fake prom photo of us and it's hilarious because he literally has in a football uniform has like bleached tips and I have my like emo hair and I'm like and it looks insane so how did you decide to marry this man I honestly think

I knew that something was different really on our first date that we actually went on. So we hooked up first. We actually both completely blacked out, woke up, absolutely surprised to see him in my home, did not know that I had company at all. But I had a crush on him. So I was like, okay, good. So we got that. So basically you had a blackout night.

And there was insertion. Yeah. And then what happened? So then we woke up the next morning and I was, I was extremely hung over. And I had to coach an improv team. So I was like, I was like, listen, I got to go. I gave him my number. He did not, I did not get his in return.

So I was like waiting for him to text me. And Danny has a reputation of being like a really nice guy. So for a while, like when he didn't text me, I was like, oh my. God, this is crazy. Like, I can't imagine. He eventually texts me the next day. He made a full 24. I remember you telling me you were like, who knew that Danny was a monster human?

I was, well, I, this, so this happened twice. Then we went on this date that was literally like, it was the corniest most magical date. Like, we had such a nice dinner. We connected so much. I was like, he was like telling me all about how much he loves his family and his, like, little hometown that he's from and I was like oh my god he's precious and then we walked outside and there was one of those street fairs in Williamsburg and he like won me a bear and then we walked over the Williamsburg bridge and like kissing on the bridge and I was like okay this is crazy

yeah so then we started like seeing each other pretty regularly and one night so back up at this period of time, Danny does not have a smartphone. He has like a flip phone because there's a thing that straight guys do where they do something really annoying and they think that it makes them interesting, but it actually just makes it really hard to get in touch with them. Having a flip phone is not personality type. It's not. It actually just is making it hard to get in touch with you. Extremely hard to type. Exactly. It actually just makes it hard to communicate with you. So Danny has a flip phone. He's living that lifestyle at that time. time and one night we he had gone out I decided to stay in and I was like but you can like come

over after so just text me um I don't hear from him all night and I go to sleep don't hear from him I wake up I have no text from him I'm like what is this I text him once I'm like hey I didn't hear from you last night I missed you but like let me know what you're up to I hear nothing. So now I'm in a double text situation because I had texted him the night before being like about to go to bed. Let me know if you're coming. Hadn't heard. Now there's a double text. So now obviously I can't. We have an issue. I cannot text him again. Yeah. So I'm waiting. I'm waiting hours and hours. I go to my improv practice, which like we always put our phones away during practice and I'm like if at the end of this three hour practice, I don't have a text from this man. Like,

I'm going to flip the fuck out I and you and if you send that third text or you call then you get into like feeling crazy territory yes and I already had that experience from my past that's in my past I'm not chasing these improv boys anymore you're a new woman I'm a new woman I'm not doing this anymore so the class and the the thing ends no text from Danny I'm

devastated livid I truly talk shit about him from the entire 40-minute ride back to Brooklyn. I'm like, this motherfucker, he thinks he's so nice, but he's a dog and all those boys at the annoyance theater are dogs, and I shouldn't have fucked any one of them. You're putting, like, quotes on Facebook just about how you can't trust anyone again. Yeah, I'm like, wow, sometimes it's the nice ones who actually turn out to be the dirt, dirtiest of all and stuff.

And then I get home, and I have a Facebook message. from Danny that says that his phone without telling him his stupid flip phone ran out of data and stopped sending or receiving text messages. And this entire time he was going through the exact same thing on his end had sent almost the exact same text to me being like, hey, I'm leaving, like haven't heard from you, so I guess I'm going to go home, then hitting me up in the morning being like, hey, missed you last night, where have you been? Literally going through the exact same thing as me all day.

He ended up asking, he ended up also talking shit about me to all his friends, being like, I don't know what happened with this girl. And then midway through realizes like, wait, can you guys text me? And they all, all of his friends texted him and he didn't get any of the text. And then he texted them and they didn't get any of the text. That's such a stupid boy thing to happen. It's like, it's your fault. You did this to everyone.

You caused this pain. If you had just joined society at the normal time, this never would have happened. Oh my God. But it also sounds like it was a bonding thing where you both felt like you lost each other for a second and realized how much you both cared. Yes. Yeah. Honestly, like, the feeling that I got when I realized, like, actually he had been trying to get in touch with me the entire time. It was like such a sweet moment.

and I don't know our relationship was just like it just felt different from the get and then we moved in at about a year and then um yeah last August we got engaged and next August we're getting married I always felt like with you you didn't have that much relationship anxiety and I don't want to like project onto you but I feel like the things that it felt like he was like felt like home to you and he was like your rock and like obviously you guys probably had issues at times but it didn't you know some people with their relationship is always like top of mind like if it's good if it's bad it's affecting their mood i always felt like a pretty like warm stable feeling from you and that's why like i remember talking to you like we were in like midtown and kind of you kind of hinting you might move in together but you seem so like comfortable about it he's just like i i would just say like our foundation

of trust is really good and it's always crazy to me when I'm talking to a friend or like watching 90 day fiancee or something or remembering past relationships that were dramatic like when I remember that relationship we were talking about at the beginning that I was constantly worried that he was cheating on me or flirting with other girls or texting someone on the side and all of that stuff and now like I mean knock on wood but like that's literally unthinkable like I would if I found out that Danny was doing that I would be like you need to get an MRI you have a tumor in your brain something has changed you fundamentally like something happened yeah when you're insecure about it they're giving you a reason like so I always feel like don't feel crazy

when you feel like that in relationships like it's a give and a take and he hasn't given you any reason to ever have a thought like that. No, and we have obviously our issues and like the beginning of quarantine was so tough in the relationship. We literally had to move to a two-bedroom apartment because the one bedroom was destroying us. Like we were just on top of each other. It was not working like we've had problems.

But trust has never been one of those issues. Do you feel like even though you have really different comedy styles in terms of performing that like your personality types and humor. of like you're real people. Yes. Do you go well together? Yeah. And I think I think the fact that our senses of humor are so different,

we make each other laugh because we surprise each other. Yeah. Like the jokes that he makes makes me laugh so hard because I would never do that. I feel like you guys are so different, but I feel like deep down you're very similar. Yes. And he definitely has helped me be more of my like silly. self. Because I can be very just like, you know, I'm a very, I'm a tourist. I'm like chill. I'm seated. Nine times out of ten, you're going to find me seated. You're going to find me with my vape pen in my hand,

chilled out. And Danny, like, gives me the permission to be kind of like the hyped up fun version of myself. Yeah, it's funny how people will bring out different sides to you. And I think it's, actually, my parents are kind of like that where my dad, like, lets my mom be silly. She's a principal of school she has to be so firm all the time yeah and our main joke around the house which i will share um if that when i'm doing work or trying to concentrate on anything i'll turn around and danny will have mooned me and he sings this song that goes um while my pants keep falling down while the face keep falling down and he always tries to get me and it gets me every time it really makes me laugh i kind of like it too it's similar to me where like i feel like my i hate to say brand

but i have this very like men are trash like drop his ass at any time i don't need a fucking man ever mentality and then when i kind of met the guy i'm seeing i've turned into like i i've disgusted by myself of how like gushy and stuff i am but like that's also just as evolving as people as like I'm not that like hardcore emotion and available person anymore and like how my comedy is going to be involved now that I'm like oh what is funny about now trying to have a functioning relationship like there's always funny in everything exactly yeah it's like you just go into the different stages and like yeah in my early 20s and stuff I did a ton of comedy about how shitty dating was and how annoying it was and it was funny at that time because that was my truth but now it's fun to talk about like now navigating a relationship and, like, being obsessed with my cat. Same. Like, literally talking to it constantly. You understand me?

It is time to wrap up with our final game. You're doing amazing in hell. It's been steamy. It's time to play The Seven Deadly Sins. Seven Deadly Sins. Elise, what are you greedy about? about um food and snacks what are your favorites my favorites i'm usually a salty snack person i love those um those voodoo chips are really really good but i just my parents literally never had snacks

in the house growing up they eat in the most my dad eats in the most absurd way like he will have a single he he eats like um emily blunt in uh devil wears prada like if you he'll eat like a cube of cheese when he feels faint and that's fine for him i hate that especially for men when it's like you can eat way more calories your body will allow exactly last time i was home i was like dad do we have any snacks in the house and he was like yeah we have yogurt and ham i was like what are you talking that's like my parents once they just had soy sauce and i was like what are you guys doing to me so anyway now i can't be around any snack i finish it within 24 hours i like can't be around them i don't know how to control myself yeah as a parent i definitely want to have

more stuff available. Well, as Italians, it's known to always have like a little bowl of chocolates just like as a welcoming thing. And because we always had the bowl of chocolates, I never crave chocolate or wanted chocolate. And my friends would be like, oh my God, there's chocolate. They'd be like stuffing in their like pants and mouth

and just like hide it. So I realize when you like take things away from kids, they become obsessed with it. So I'm just going to be like, do whatever you want. Yeah. That's my parenting style. I'm going to have snacks at my house so that my kids know how to be around the snacks.

and also I realize I like snacks more than actual meals um who are you envious of who am I envious of oh um in this is in a positive way but Zendaya she is so beautiful and she's so talented and she's so young and she can sing and she can dance and I feel like I'm just like she's it she's the perfect person And she's so beautiful. I also, I love that she hasn't fucked her face up. I feel like she's so easily could have. And I've seen, I'm very into celebrity plastic surgery.

I followed a couple accounts and now it's, it's just cats and like celebrity faces comparing like 2012 to 2020. And I've seen her comparisons and she's just growing like a natural woman should. And I love that confidence. And she does also have that personality where you can tell it's not tailored for the media. she'll like even her acceptance for the emmy she was just so raw genuine and she i just i'm like we're going to be seeing her for years to come and i like i genuinely she's going to be beautiful the whole like she's going to age so gorgeously when she's 30 she's going to look incredible when she's 50 but also i think it's her personality that makes her so gorgeous yes and she's so

talented and she seems nice and i'm just like damn so zendaya i'm very envious of zendaya besides snacks what do you gluttonous about i kind of know but you can oh weed oh weed i'm i'm what the doctors would say addicted to weed have you ever tried to get off do you feel like it helps your anxiety or it like it just keeps you in a certain limbo so i recently a week off because in quarantine it was getting a little crazy and I was like maybe we don't need to be high at 8 o'clock in the morning. So I took a week off and I am going to do a sober October coming up. Well, you love that. You've been doing that. That's like your thing. I usually did sober September but I had I had a fun trip to the beach plan this month. So I wasn't going to be sober

for that. But I'm going to do sober October and for the first, I usually don't include weed. I'm going to include weed, so I'm going to do a month off to test myself. Are you afraid of your sober thoughts at all? I feel like a lot of my like weed addiction and snacks and I always have to be like fiddling with something and like doing something. Like a little oral fixation. Yeah, and I always have to like I smoked cigarettes for a really long time just because I loved stepping out and like the actual physical emotion of it. So I'm trying to get myself, I've been embroidering a little bit. Oh my God, I'm obsessed. Like getting into embroidery a little bit. So I've been trying to like set little things that I'll that I can do with my hands. I love that's what I love having cats like right

now I've been petting my cat the whole time and it's calming yeah it just feels great yeah also side note because you are like the political guru of the comedy world do you feel do you have any advice for people who have trouble with their anxiety when it comes to politics like I actually had a like visceral reaction yesterday because my I'm dating an older man he's 44 so he wakes up and puts on the news and i was like turn it on like freaked out it was like trump says that like corona he's he's dealt with corona the best possible way like some some quote just set me off how do you how do i get myself to still like know what's going on without the visceral reactions so you have to set limits 100 like you and you have to find a way of listening to the news that makes

you feel informed, but also isn't alarmist. So I would say that like... But so much news is trying to alarm you. I know. So 99% honestly of the cable news networks, I don't really fuck with them. And I don't really watch them unless there's like, like if a debate is happening or something,

I will watch them. But I do not get my news from them. And I think honestly getting, I mean, you can get the batch of stuff newsletter, but also the New York Times has like a roundup in the morning. I actually like to check Twitter moments. that'll just tell you, or I guess they call it the Explore page now. It just tells you like on news, the top stories.

Because, and that can be a little alarmist sometimes too. But I think that reading it is a lot more palatable for me. They'll like have the big headline of the story. And then if you click on it, you can find it from a bunch of different sources. And then you can also find what people are saying about it. So I find it like a pretty digestible way. And also just right at the top, it'll give you the top line, two lines like Ruth Bader Ginsburg died or whatever. And then you can read that and be like, I understand.

I love that. Next question. When was the last time you were sloth? So like super lazy. Oh my God. Yesterday I had all this stuff I was going to do. And then I went on one bike ride and I was like, I am too tired. And I got in my bed.

I ordered Thai food and I watched so much 90-day fiancé and did nothing and it was gorgeous. I wish I did that with you because that sounds like my perfect day. I also have this thing where I'm like, I can't wake up too early because then I'll be like so tired the whole day. I used to be like I literally, I couldn't schedule my college classes at 10 a.m. Because I would miss them because I was asleep. I've started in quarantine. I can wake up earlier because I don't have to. to be anywhere. Like I know that I'm, even though I'm waking up at like seven, I'm waking up at seven

and staying in my house and I don't have to put on pants or clothes or anything. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like less exertion in that way. But you're, I feel like you're similar to me in that you have a lot of different kinds of jobs or you have to put like a different hat on. Yes. How do you not get overwhelmed where like you have that one day where like everything needs something from those different jobs? Because I like, I will not even have that much to do, but I'll get so overwhelmed because it's like such different things going on. Oh, I mean, I still get super overwhelmed all the time. But I have like, I really rely on my planner and I am like a religious user of it.

And I try to, what's helped me also is I keep track of everything I did in a day. Like I'll just write like done. I went to this. I did my laundry. I did all this stuff. And it helps me to be like. like on days where I'm like oh my god you didn't do anything I'm like okay well actually you did all of these things yeah or okay yeah you didn't do anything today but look at all the shit you did

yesterday like yeah I think lists yeah list turn me on like lists will get me going more than anything and like crossing something off a list yeah even heroin the tiniest thing of being like take your birth control yeah yeah even the most basic thing it's like I I did it. I did it. So it counts. And then it's easier to continue to do more things. When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something? So like your ego? Oh my God. That's a really good question. It's the hard. It's the hard one of the group. Oh, I'm trying to think. I'm, like, vaguely know what I'm going to say, but I'm trying to think of the actual details of, I'm remembering. I'm getting a vision.

I'm getting a vision of being a bitch in a fight. I'm getting a vision of myself being a real bitch for no reason. And there's so many possible scenarios of why. I know it was to my fiancée, but what? Yeah, I'm literally blanking on the details of this fight, but basically there was a fight we were in recently where I kind of knew that I was just like trying to start problems. for the sake of starting problems and the argument continued way longer than it needed to basically because I was refusing to admit that that's what I was doing.

It's funny because now that I'm getting into this more serious relationship where two people like actually care about each other, I realize how easy it is to like get someone upset and like get that attention and you have to be like, we're going to get healthy attention. We're going to get healthy attention. We don't need to just like act cold for no reason and make him wonder what. Why? Or just like, I feel like for me it's always just like nitpicking a thing that was said that it's like, let it go.

It's not needed right now. Oh my God, I love that we're both in relationships and we could talk about this. I feel like we're so mature right now. But it's, you're right, there's a thin line between being a very open and honest and communicative of like, hey, that upset me when you said that and like work it out super maturely and also being like, okay, you were in your own head and let's not make a thing about this. Yeah, like you used the wrong word, but maybe we can just move forward.

Yeah, like, should we make this a moment or not? Yeah. Yeah, and it's sometimes I'm like, I'll make it the moment, and I really shouldn't. That's so reality TV, though, like, as someone who shoots a show, you can easily see how you can make something into a dramatic moment if you want it to be. You're like, just give me what I'm waiting for, and then you can make it something. we like the we call it moments in reality be like are you going to have a moment um are you going to wear your outfit and get into a fucking moment i like see page get dressed up and i'm like are you trying to have a moment um looks like i'm going to start using that in my regular life like i'm

about to have a moment um when was the last time besides danny you lusted over someone so like do you have a celebrity crush oh man like a real it's i feel like it's been a long time since I've had like a very real celebrity crush but um this is actually timely um there's a movie about Ruth Bader Ginsburg's life called on the basis of sex where Army Hammer plays her husband and he is so hot in this movie as Marty Ginsburg who was not hot I saw that movie alone It was like Was he playing an older guy?

Mm-hmm This was before Was he playing an older guy? Um, was she dating an older guy? No, like was he playing older than he is? No, he was playing them when he was young, when they were young and it's about like

this case that she argued that was like her landmark case where she, um, she basically argued gender discrimination in front of the court and got them to agree because she took on the case of a man. and said he was being discriminated against and she used him to prove that gender discrimination in the law was a thing and it was very smart because this all-male panel was able to more relate

to like his thing. Empathized with that. But anyway, she also had a really great husband and their love story is beautiful and Army Hammer plays him in the movie and I, like the sexual reaction that I had alone in this theater in Chelsea seeing Army Hammer as Ruth Bader Ginsburg's hot husband

was huge. and yeah page is actually very into army because she heard that he has like oil money or something well listen she should watch this movie because marty ginsberg's like such a good husband and his whole thing is that like he's a lawyer but he realizes that she's actually the genius and he like helps her to like he helps her to go be her thing and he like never feels any type of way about it and it's that's like what your boyfriend could have been when you were 22 and he's 30 and to watch it actually actually play out is sexual. Yes.

Oh, my God. Elise, you're crushing it. I have one final question for you. Because I know that you're so smart, you're so funny. You've gone through hell in your life. And it's made you the smart, funny person you are today. But what advice would you give to the little devils on how to cope with your hell when you're going through it?

Oh, that's such a great question. Um, I, what, what I really, what really helps me is if you are anxious about like a specific event, like, if you're like, oh my God, I have this work call and it's causing me this much anxiety or like, whatever. I have to, I have to have this phone call with my friend at two and I'm going to tell her that she's being a bitch and it's causing me a lot of anxiety. Mm-hmm. What I always like to focus on, if that thing is happening at two, is I'm like, imagine three. Like, imagine 3 p.m. when that thing is done and you can like, you can like really feel the weight of all of it coming off.

Like on a day where I'm so anxious and I, back in the day when I had shows and I would be like, oh my God, I have this, this, this, this and this and two to do today. And then I've got this show at 9. I would always imagine myself at 10.30 when the show is done and like how good that moment's going to feel. That's actually such good advice. I've never heard something like that before. because it's like it's all perspective and if you focus on like the hardships of like the nerves

right before versus like the validation of completing it all it really is just how you view things yeah and just like you're you're like you're like you're like you're like you're like stuff ahead of you but you know at whatever time it's going to be done and you're going to be able to like feel that relief and that has always helped me yeah and that there is that light always. And I think always having that hope of like knowing there is light and there's positivity is like what keeps people. Yeah. And even if it's like an ongoing thing, you know, that doesn't have a set time, you can think of it as like, okay, but at 5 p.m., I'm going to get home and I'm going to sit and I'm going to put on my favorite show and I'm going to like do chill time

for a while. Like give yourself a timed thing to look forward to. What do you currently binging? 90 day fiance. Oh, okay, I need to, oh my God, I watched happily ever after. I'm going through in order and then I'm going to start going into the other franchises, but Should I start, like, from the very beginning? I started from the very beginning and I have enjoyed going through and seeing things get crazier and crazier as time goes on. I'm going to add that to my list.

Elise, you're the fucking best. I miss you so much. I love you. I can't wait to see you in the city. I love you. I know. Where can people follow you? Where can people listen to you?

Where can people watch you? Okay, you can follow me on Instagram at Pandelis. That's P-A-N-D-A-L-I-S-E. And then I'm on Twitter. I have a different handle on Twitter. It's what I'm doing. I'm rebelling. It's Elise Navidad.

So it's my name and then Navidad, like the beautiful Christmas tune. And then if you want to listen to my podcast, the roast of your teenage self, You can download it on all the apps. Whatever one you're using to listen to this podcast, it'll be there. And Hannah's episode's great. We've got awesome episodes with Stevo from Jackass, which was like, so great. My teenage self would have died. Really, really good, fun stuff.

I love it for you. Well, thank you so much for coming to hell. Thanks for listening to you guys, and I'll talk to you later. Bye. Thank you.