Berner Phone - Amanda Batula: Devil Dudes & Angel Boobs

Episode Date: June 12, 2019

Amanda experienced a very public cheating scandal and engagement all during last season of Bravo's Summer House. She opens up to Hannah about how she really feels about engagement rings, the fact she she wan’t actually cast for the show, how she likes approaching men first, the real timeline of her relationship with Kyle, what happened with the cheating rumor, self-sabotaging in relationships, if cheating retaliation is ever okay,  how she glowed up from season 2 to season 3, emotional eating, Hannah’s crush on Amanda’s Dad, how sometimes she hates her boobs, plastic surgery rumors, her favorite shitty tv, and how she and Kyle fight. Simplehealth.com/BERN Follow Hannah Berner on Instagram & Twitter: @beingbernz Follow Amanda Batula on Instagram: @amandabatula --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Was there a moment that you started to be like, wait, I could see a life with this guy? I kind of got to a point where I was like, this is good enough. No. It's like. Welcome to Burning Hell. What's up, guys? It's your host, Hannah Burner. If you've been enjoying Hell with me, because it is quite pleasant, I must say.

you should leave a review on iTunes or five stars or four if you want to make me work a little harder whatever you feel I'm very excited today because one of my best friends is here we're so excited um her name is Amanda Patula I just hate when people say you're Kyle's girlfriend I think Kyle's Amanda's boyfriend yeah especially after this last season I'm not trying to be petty well actually you know we're engaged now so we're each other's fiance That is so awkward. Could I have fucked up the intro more? I don't know.

No, it's okay. I always call him my boyfriend. I don't like fiancé. I say it like posh. I'm just like... Do you know what I hate? Besides marriage. I'm just kidding.

I'm nothing against marriage. But the patriarchal society... Tell me more. I don't like how when you get engaged, you wear a ring, but then they're still like technically single running around without a ring. Right?

I think that we should both get rings so that everyone knows that, you know, he's also taken. Like, why am I just the one that's now off the market? I want to tattoo that shit around his finger. Oh my God, you should do that next time he's drunk. I'm going to take a Sharpie. Like instead of putting a penis on his forehead, tattoos up the other.

Oh, my gosh. Or just right. Don't test me. Amanda's on his forehead. Yeah. Cross his chest. It's tough because he obviously loves attention. I love how we're getting straight into this.

I didn't plan on it, but here we are. He loves attention. But then it's hard because you're dating a guy who's in the public eye. So, like, I know that girls will come up to him, too. Yeah. So it's this, like, annoying thing where I kind of would love for him to have a fucking ring. Yeah, but also girls go up to him and they ask, where's Amanda? That's good.

Yeah. Well, I think there's two types of girls out there. Yeah. There's the girl who's like, where the fuck is your girlfriend? She's, like, staring at you, just ready to snap if he does anything wrong. Then there's the girl's like, where's Amanda? Uh-oh, you're being frisky tonight? Have you had 400 lover boys?

Yeah, I think I like to think that people risk. me, but are also kind of terrified of me. So they wouldn't do anything with Kyle. Yeah. Also, like, he hasn't, I feel like he's proven to be kind of a little bit of a hot mess and no one really wants to touch it anymore. They're kind of like, ooh, I don't want to babysit this man. So it's actually all worked in your favor. Yeah, totally. I'm like, Kyle, it's, I'm actually, when I'm feeding him water, it's straight vodka. This whole time you've been manipulating the situation to make him look as unattractive and unavailable. as possible.

I'm like, Kyle, stop drinking. I'm like, cry, bitch, cry. You're weak now. You don't go in a lot of podcasts. I don't. Why not? I don't know. I guess I don't like really enjoy talking about myself.

Well, I don't like people at all. That's one thing. I like you, so I'm here. But yeah, I just, I feel like I don't have a lot to say about myself. I feel comfortable with you though. So I did it. I'm here. I mean, I took a lot of buttering up.

We have this thing where like just on camera, we do our friend thing. And then she told me not to make eye contact with her off camera, which was like kind of rude at first. And then I like understood it. We're actually facing back to back right now. Yeah, we don't make, I don't want to be real friends in real life. That's just like awkward and annoying. I also don't do podcasts because I hate the sound on my own voice. So I'm like, why would anyone else want to listen to me?

Yeah. You get used to it over time. But okay, I've perfected you your voice because I watch watch what crappens and they love doing imitations of you. So mine is they said first season Amanda was Kyle. Second season of Amanda was Kyle Third season Amanda was Kyle Kyle

Kyle What else Kyle Kyle Kyle I mean you're interesting As a reality TV celebrity Because you didn't sign up for this shit Well like technically I signed You ended up

You ended up signing your life away Yeah But first you were just You like to tell the story That you came up to him first And I love a good alpha move in the beginning. Yes. I think as women, guys are dumb and sometimes very intimidated by pretty girls,

especially ones with gorgeous bums like yours. So you have to kind of give them the green light, but then step back and let them show you. So what was your strategy for, Kyle, who's probably drunk in a corner, not sure where to go in life? Yeah. Well, I found it, I'll give you a little bit of the back story as to like why I started approaching men.

I was in two really long relationships and one and I was in one of them my aunt had told me like boys are just as nervous as girls are so like you know like sometimes guys don't approach you not because they're not interested but because they're nervous and shy. Probably more because they get rejected more than us.

Exactly. So that like really resonated with me so when I became single finally in the city I was like screw this. I'm not going to wait like to match on like a dating app or like have a guy come up to me like I'm going to start approaching guys so I just went around.

like getting people's numbers like it didn't go anywhere but it just felt empowering to be like you're hot give me your number I'm not going to do anything with it but like I just got this guy's number is that why you were so good on that episode of getting guys numbers yeah because like literally what do you have to lose if you don't approach them you're never going to talk to them and then if they don't give you your number you're not going to talk to them either so it's like what you can't lose anything like have I ever told you my like crazy long term strategy of talking to a guy I don't know if I said it on this podcast it's the long game so you find the hot guy that you want to speak to. So the first thing you do is find his ugly friend. And why ugly, I mean,

you're not attracted to him. Because, I mean, I love an ugly hot. There's something endearing about that. There's a lot of... And they have better personality sometimes. But regardless, we're in the mood for a tall, hot one right now. So you find his ugly friend, and you walk by, and you're not nervous. You just kind of say something to the friend. You make a comment about his shirt, but not too flirty, more friendly. Walk away. Walk away. You just planted a seed. This literally takes about an hour and a half, but it's worth it. So then you follow up and you give him a little point, like your boys with the ugly friend. You like him now.

And the hot guy is starting to be like, why isn't she talk to me? I don't know. Why don't you think about that for a while? Well, I have fun with my friends. Then finally, I'm going to get to the group. We're friends now. I've said hi to the guy twice. Now we're like, we go way back.

Yeah. And then the guy's going to notice you. And you're going to talk to his friends and literally ignore the shit out of him. And in that moment, he's either going to say something to you because he's attracted to you and wants to talk to you or he won't. And you never actually have to put yourself out there. But sometimes there's like a thrill of putting yourself out there. Like it's like, there's like this adrenaline rush. Like I'm just going to do it.

Yeah. And that's what I did with Kyle. Oh my God. Tell me the exact moment. Well, I walked into the party. What were you wearing? I saw him from across the room. I think I was wearing the shirt.

He was eating chips off his chest. no he wasn't surprisingly um i did see him from across the room when i was at like it was my sorority sister in college it was like going to big sister and i wasn't going to go to her birthday party and i dragged my friends along in the most endearing way i love her threatened their lives but i was like nervous to go to this birthday party you know it wasn't like whatever anyway it always starts with i wasn't going to go i wasn't going to go and he wasn't going to go either yeah but he had just met my friend out in the hamptons So, anyway, I saw him from across the room. He makes so many friends in the Hamptons.

We met in the summer 2014. We met on the LARR in 1992. He's doing a sharehouse with Christina Gibson. Amanda. So I saw him up from across the room and then I don't, everything is kind of fuzzy. And apparent, I just like, it's still putting pieces together. We kind of had the conversation together to figure out, like, exactly what happened. Were you guys drunk?

100%. There was like those chocolate cake shots. Oh, yes. Where they're like kind of gooey, but you're supposed to eat it with the utensils. It's like a mini dessert. Okay. There were no utensils. So no one was eating them.

And I saw Kyle go up and start using his finger in the shot and like scooping it out and like, you know, just using his hands to eat this like dirty dessert. And I was like, oh, finally someone's eating the cake shots. And that's all I said. And then the rest was history. He asked me to go for margaritas. Did you immediately hit it off? Yeah. I mean, I'd like to think so.

I don't think he would have invited me. Did you get like a calm vibe from him? Like you felt like yourself around him? I had no idea what was going to happen next. No, I had no idea he was the man that he is now. Really? Yeah. So you were kind of like, he's hot.

Let's see what happens. Yeah. Like I thought it seemed like really smooth and sly. And like the first day kind of was. And by date, I mean like the margaritos we got after we left the party. It was just kind of like, ooh, try this. Like, this is really cool. And I don't know.

Oh, yeah, he was acting like an older, like, experienced man. Yeah, I think he knows margarita flavors. Yeah. God damn it, Kyle. He's like, oh, this, try this spicy margarita. He's like, try this four loco, it's peach. Yeah, he's like, oh, this one has salt on the rim. Like, have you ever had mescal?

Have you ever shot on to tequila 400 times? Yeah, and he's like, have you ever taken a shot of tequila? Have you ever taken a shop of tequila off someone's asshole? Yeah. Kyle. Kyle. He thinks, yeah, I think he was like trying to introduce me all these new things. He's like, this one has a dried mango in it.

It was really cute. So we did that. This one has an exotic fruit called guava. Yeah. It's like, oh my God, this one's made with limes. So then I slept over because, of course, the restaurant, the bar he brought me to was like right around the apartment. Right around the corner. Classic Kyle move.

But we did not sleep together. I just slept over. Well, we slept in the same bed. We did not, like, have intercourse. Did he try? Mm-mm. Oh, cute baby. Yeah.

He's so sweet and innocent. Yeah, I think, yeah, I held out until he took me out to dinner. Was he on the show yet? No. Amazing. And I had no idea that anything was happening until, so that was August. Mm-hmm. I didn't know anything was happening until, like, that February.

So he'd already filmed? No, they were, like. Oh. He had already like applied, I guess. So there was a whole year of you guys seeing each other before he did the show. Like how many months is that, August, like six months? Yeah. And I guess he signed his contract in like March of the next year.

But he didn't tell me that he was doing the show until February. Oh, okay. So I'm like thinking I'm dating this average guy and all of a sudden he's like, hey, by the way, I like you a lot, but I'm going to be on a show on Bravo. So we should probably break up. How seriously were you seeing each other before he pulled this? breakup move i mean we were spending every single weekend like all week nights like we did not go a week without seeing each other like i was sleeping over all the time so it wasn't like a force thing it wasn't

like kyle i had just met his brother and at the time his brother's serious girlfriend it sounds like since you met you were kind of inseparable yeah yeah he's a little shithead he's such a little shit had no I love that little booger um so let's cut to the shit so we can like get this out of the way this last season was probably the hardest season I think for you guys by far do you think it bonded you closer because you survived it I mean we just watched you get engaged on television I know sobbing your eyes out it's such a unique experience because everyone when you envisioned your engagement did you envision it ever to be like that no I mean I never thought I would have like a recording of it you know people get pictures of like their proposal i never thought i'd have

like a high deaf video no it's crazy professionally edited um and what i love about you is i'm gonna tell people who are listening she's i know reality tv people are thirsty um such as myself but amanda's the least thirsty person on the show like barely drink water she she is dehydrated um that's how she gets so drunk so easily. But she is really herself on and off camera to like almost an issue that you make such good TV because you can't fake or act in any way. I think it's very apparent when I'm faking something. Yeah, you're probably a terrible liar. Like my face is like, yeah, I'm like, I really like you. It's nice news, man. You turn corny. But that's why immediately I was like, oh, this real bitch from New Jersey, I can connect with her because I can trust you. Reality TV is

weird because when people do stuff, you don't know if they're doing it or the producers or telling them to do it you can't it goes in and out but this summer like you had to deal with a cheating rumor that almost ended your relationship when you're moving in with a guy to a beautiful beautiful expensive apartment yeah and you said to him this is my favorite quote of this summer enjoy your apartment and he was like are you serious and I was just like dead ass we need t-shirt she was dead ass and when she said that I was like you want my queen um so this rumor i need to get to the bottom of because i don't think we actually did it on the show a rumor gets well lindsay finds out a rumor from a friend i think it was at that lunch

that was filmed and then she kind of sat on it for kyle's birthday i and thought it was appropriate to tell him that weekend yes so she apparently found out on a thursday filmed a few scenes talking about it and then told Kyle at you know her earliest convenience which was the day after his birthday because she didn't want to ruin this birthday which respect that Sunday it was so weird because we woke up and most Sundays we have tons of plans we had no plans and I remember being like oh my God I'm just going to relax Sunday fun day we're on the pool frolicking around And you guys yelled and cried and screamed for maybe two and a half hours. Oh, it was awful.

And we were all just kind of standing there just in shock. And it was so emotionally draining. And at one point, you guys were crying and screaming so hard. You took a break and just lied in the grass. Do you remember that? Like, you couldn't scream anymore. And you both were just lying in the grass. And I was like, are they dead?

Like, are they okay? I was like, I had so many emotions. and like so many things to just say. I was so angry. At any point were you thinking of like the show? Like this whole show is you guys are together. You're dating. Yeah.

Or did you just black out? I had like blinders on. It's like nothing else mattered. Do you remember throwing that bottle? Like you threw your drink. My glass. Yeah. I don't remember anything.

I don't remember. Like I just like saw red and like it's like nothing else around me existed except for Kyle's neck that I wanted to put my hands around. I think that that. But that day is kind of when I think America got to see, like, you being so authentically. Amanda, your body in that scene was insane. If I was Kyle and you're running around their bathing suit, I'd just be like, I made a huge mistake. You're just like, but like your boobs are just all of them.

You're like, never talk to me again, Kyle. And then you like go in the water and come out like Denise Richards and you're just like, Don't talk to me again, kind of old deadass. And then you're crying and your tears are straight up glitter. I think it was the sunshine. I am not a pretty crier. And we saw that in the engagement. We saw that in the engagement, which was, I laugh because I think it's so funny.

Everyone was like, you're such a beautiful. I guess when I, like, someone, like, rips out my heart and, like, stomp's on it. It was more of a mad cry. That I'm, like, a beautiful crier. But if it's, like, happy tears, it's just, it's terrifying. It was so authentic and beautiful. But you guys survived. That survived that, which was insane.

Yeah. But one thing that we didn't get to the bottom of on the show was I was just happy you guys were together. And I wasn't, I just remember texting you when we got home and being like, I love you, I'm here for you. Yeah. Whatever decision you make. I mean, you guys were all amazing. We texted like, did you hear from Lindsay that week? I think she just like kind of asked like, how are you?

Yeah. She did like reach out and was like, like, how you doing? Or like, how are you? but there was never a moment where she asked, is it true? Interesting. So like, and even at the house, like, you know, honestly, and I, you know, I saw you guys kind of talking about how, like, we weren't talking about it. We weren't bringing it up.

But that's because, like, I found out it was false. Like, it didn't happen. Why dwell on something that isn't real? And, like, you just, I had to, like, I had to move past it. We were in the car. Do you remember I was, or Paige said, yeah, I talked to Amanda and she said the girl said she didn't even know him. And then it just got quiet in the car. And it's so weird because it's not our relationship, but like because we were there, like we're all so invested in it. Yeah. So when it got, when it was false, did Kyle get mad at Lindsay? Or did you get mad at Lindsay?

I mean, we couldn't like, you know, I don't know how she found out. I don't know the details of how she found out with a person. So she never told you who she talked to? Like, why not? there's like Daniel kind of said who yeah it's a whole but um I feel like if I a lot of people are asking me if I heard a rumor that my boyfriend cheated on me why did you leave it up to him to talk to the girl why didn't you do your own FBI research because it's his responsibility like this is his problem like he was clearly embarrassed by it and there was a part of me that like you were like why do I have to clean up your mess right like and there was a part of me that really felt like it wasn't true and Kyle was just trying to like do that

the right thing. Were you afraid that he could have called her and been like, hey, I'm going to message you this. Say no. I don't think Kyle's that kind of person. Yeah. Well, you know him better than anyone. Yeah, he's not like that manipulative type of person. Yeah, he's pretty dumb. Like that would be like a little too. Like he's very transparent and honest. Yeah. Like there's been time like, you know, when he was like honestly, I don't know. Like that's how honest he is when he told Lindsay like he didn't know because like he went out one night, but like he never, he was never at that place. One thing that pissed me off. was when he said to you, like, I had a lot of selfish nights in April. Do you remember April being like a stressful time for him or like he was out a lot? No. I just like, I think there was like a night or two

that he, and I think he was confusing like April and May, but there were some, like, I think it was like across like the span of a few months that he just kind of grouped into April. Yeah. But there were nights that he'd like go out and get really drunk. And it was with all the guys. But, you know, when all his guy friends are single, there's always girls lingering around. So he just couldn't, be sure that nothing happened. But he knew he never went to that Black Lodge or wherever they said that they were. Did he talk to you about his best relationships being a cheater before? So, like did that scare you?

The only, I think I've asked him this and there was one girl that he cheated on because he did not know how to get the F out of the relationship because she would not let him leave. Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, like she would not leave his apartment until he said that they were back together. my thing with you is the people say like oh one's a cheater always a cheater and kyle even says like oh i've cheated before i don't think kyle's a cheater i think he just got too fucked up yeah i think he was like scared like he wasn't and i've like talked about this with other people before he just like according to sam you know he wasn't fully invested and committed to our relationship like

he wasn't mentally there yet and i feel like he's a hundred or zero type of person and he knew that you're the one so it was hard for him to be like let's go 100 so then he was like he was self-sabotaging yeah and when you're not like a hundred percent about someone it's easier you know to like mess up that he wasn't 100 percent like a couple months before the engagement well so he wasn't a hundred percent back when he cheated which was a year before a year yeah I found out I'm not happy he cheated no happy that it happened when it did because he was able to like get it out and learn from that you know and like he never make that mistake again like i know that he will never make that mistake again and if he does he knows exactly what the outcome will be oh yeah i think there's no question

everyone knows but i also oh my god do you watch southern charm so austin cheated on his girlfriend it's a whole mess and then the girlfriend apparently cheated on him after as for retaliation and Shep said that like she's more in the wrong than him what's your opinion all that so yes if you're like I'm like as the professional person of dealing with cheating sheedy um but also threesome is like straight disrespect like that's not you got a little drunk and like made out with someone that's like that's like that's orchestrated but here's my thought on it like I love and loved Kyle so much like when I found out he cheated I was at that moment like still so in love with him head over heels like I couldn't even fathom like kissing

another guy going on another like I had no want to have sex with anyone else like there was not a like I was devastated like I wanted to lock myself up I did lock myself with you're saying retaliation was never it was never an option for me it was never thought in my mind I think people that want to retaliate aren't really committed to the relationship to begin with it's just like you do this to me I'm going to do this back to you and how do you ever come back from that as a couple when instead of you know working on things getting better you retaliate to make it even love i know that in your 20 early 20s and teens like love seems like a game that you're trying to win but if you're still playing fucking texting games and mind games there's no trust right it's hot for like two months

and then it's just annoying that's why i say like i have random people ask me for like relationship advice and i'm like oh you see where mine ended up are you sure about this But my thing, and I've told all my friends this, like, for years, there's no rules to dating or relationships. Like, there's no, like, you can't call him for three days or, like, don't text him twice. Like, do what feels right. If he's not answering and you text him five times and you want to text him again. And if you don't, you're going to go crazy. Text him again.

I think the only rule is to be authentically yourself. Yeah. If Amanda Petula texts five times normally, keep doing it. And the right guy will think it's sexy. And if he thinks it's crazy, then, like, you're crazy. But you're going to be that person for. So it's better he find out now than down the road. I got great advice once by a friend who actually is shitty with relationships.

But she said to me, if he makes like, if he makes you feel like you're crazy, get out. Like he's not the one because girls are not crazy. When a guy's like, oh, my ex was so crazy. You're like, what did you do to her? Yeah, like what did you do? Yeah, like either he or he like was playing games with her. Because I think the right relationship, there's actually calmness in it and they feel like home. And it doesn't feel like a competitive mind.

game of like making each other jealous and stuff I think it's cute if like you go to work dinner and you look really pretty and Kyle's a little like oh is there are there like that's cute yeah but you being like oh this guy Joey keeps texting me like no yeah like don't like want things in someone's face and like yeah there's like there's literally no rules like you just have to do what feels right and don't try to do something because you feel like you should especially when telling a guy that like you like you like him like I've had so many friends be like you know I've been seeing this guy for a while and like I don't know what we are and I'm like okay well how long has it been bothering you for they're like a few weeks

I'm like then say something they're like I don't know if he's ready well then if he's not ready what are you doing yeah exactly and if you hold it in that's where anxiety starts to hit because anxiety is when you're suppressing your actual emotion and then it just starts spiraling out of control because yeah I was in a past relationship where I literally didn't complain about anything that I hated about him and then like seven months in I was like I can't do this and he's like I thought we were like moving in together and I'm like I can't stand how you breathe and blink Hannah I had an ex that was the same way it got to the point where like his physical being like just was I was so disgusted by his like everything about him that we were out to eat and he like

moved over just to get comfortable I was like can you stop touching me oh my god there's something about restaurants that triggers me in relationships I broken up with two guys at restaurants because restaurants are how you deal with people. You're a text or you would. You have our soulless. You are a dark, dark human. And like, bite. Restaurants trigger me.

Because you see how they deal with people or like how they are. Is that why when you set up that group dinner for us, you didn't show up? Yeah, because all of you triggered me. Oh, yeah. So I set up a group dinner for everyone at Summer House, but I did not show up because I got strep throat slash I was sick of you guys. I want to get a little romantic and I want to know like, Was there a moment that you started to be like, wait, I could see a life with this guy?

Like, he's my partner. Like, Kyle. I think it just happened. It was just, I kind of got to a point where I was like, this is good enough. No. It's like, you're like, you'll still do. You're like, he only lasts about a minute in bed, but he's fine. He has nice hair.

He has nice hair. Our kids, maybe will have blonde hair, blue eyes. Your kids will be so cute. Oh, God, they're going to come out like monsters. I know it. Sometimes too attractive people have the most unattractive children. I mean, if you have a mini Kyle, oh my God, you're going to need like four babysitters. He's going to be bouncing off the wall.

Also, Kyle got mad at me because I insinuated once and he might be taking Adderall and he doesn't take Adderall. I just want to put that out there. But he was mad that people thought he wasn't like full of energy all the fucking time. Oh, yeah. He's just full of energy. I just want to tranquilize his ass sometimes. I wish. When we want to nap and he starts playing house music, I'm like, I will.

Oh, he's, yeah, he's like a little teenager. He literally is like all those memes that are like if you have like a kid named Kyle and it's just like Monster, because all he drank was Monster all summer. All summer he drank Monster. It's just, it's too real. I can't, I'm never naming my child. But you guys are good. I think it's why me and you get along because I'm more of a Kyle type.

We're both Leo's. We're both like high energy. I'm a Leo too. You're Leo too, but you're like, you're on the cusp and you're in a like calmer part of the spectrum and you are fine with like being a gardener sometimes I like to say a gardener and a flower like Kyle is the flower he's like in people's faces Kyle's like a freaking tree he's not a flower and he's like he is on a drunk tree yeah and you're like you're supporting him also everyone wants your body your body's insane let's be honest you like kind of glowed up from

season two to season three like you lost weight well yes so I was in really good shape before I met Kyle. I was like going to the gym all the time. And I've never been a gym person. I am unfortunately. Like people ask me all the time. They're like, what's your workout regimen? Like I've never worked out in my life. Yeah. I was never one of those girls. You just do fat, fit fun, but that's about it. I just like cross out the fit part. I'm just bad. I'm fun. I'm fun. You are. But I've never like worked out. And then I was moved to the city. You started working. I felt like I needed like to relieve some stress. So I started like going to the gym all the time. And I think Kyle, like, really liked that about me.

You're like, I started doing bodybuilding. Yeah, but then, you know, you get comfortable. And I kind of stopped going to the gym. And honestly, like, season two for me, there was, like, so much going on, like, over that summer before, like, I was having, like, situations at work with one, with the girl that worked under me. Yeah. That was absolutely terrible.

Like drama. Like, she, she hated me. And I was her boss. And it was. was a whole thing so that was a lot on me too and i think i just started like eating my feelings and i've never been that type of person and it just totally affected me and i gain weight really evenly like face stomach boobs arms like not to brag but no so no one believes me when i say i gained weight and then i gained i lost 15 pounds from season uh i was i mean two to season three i was like

135 pounds after I stepped on a scale when I felt comfortable after season two and now I like you know evened it out I'm around yeah I'm lucky most of it just goes in my butt because I'm thick so how'd you stop emotionally eating

I went or did you fake the situation around you I kind of just started eating better and that's my secret to like losing weight in general is just eating, like, no sugars, no carbs, just, like, kind of eating healthier and cleaner. But aren't you have Italian? Yeah, I'm Polish and Italian. How do you not eat carbs?

Well, so that's how I lost the weight. Yes. So now it's all about maintaining the weight, but also, like, the whole trick for me was giving into my cravings. So if I wanted to slice a pizza, I would give myself a slice of pizza. I didn't believe in a cheat day, because if you have a cheat day, then you overindulge on that one day. And you probably have such, like, a sugar. carb load that you like go back four weeks yeah so like if i you know if i didn't know what i wanted for lunch i would just like get a salad but if i really wanted a sandwich i would go and get a

sandwich because i didn't want to restrict myself because that's what also made me gain weight is because i tried to stick to a diet yes and i couldn't stick to it and i just started eating just all shit because i was like i missed you i missed you yes it's like what is it called um distance makes the heart grow fonder if you like restrict yourself from eating a cookie for like two weeks, you will eat a whole fucking cake when you get the chance. Yeah, because you think like this is my last time I might ever let myself eat this. So you eat all of it instead of just have, that's Kyle's problem too. And a lot of the time when you're craving something, you actually don't need a lot of it.

Like have a bite, enjoy that bite, smell it, be involved in it. Don't just blindly start shoving. Yeah. I'm trying to eat slower because I'm like, I'll see a plate and I'm like, let's put it all in my belly right now. How fast can I put that in my belly? Watch, I'm a magician. Disappear. So I'm trying to like enjoy the food and be present. Mindful eating. My dad is a genius at that. I've been waiting for you to bring up your dad. So it's no secret. I think he's like so hot and amazing. There is a restraining order that's been put out so I don't want to say anything. Anyway,

I love your parents. They're so hot and cool. And your mom is. like such a badass um because she whipped prank into shape yeah i mean your parents also i feel like we just share like amazing parents we think like our parents would be so hot on the town together like the reverse like like we would just switch and like have each other's parents but they're both married that'd be fun they're not single everyone's making fun of me for going in for the hug with frank i'm like yeah come in here frank and he's like who the fuck is this girl security 100% my dad probably thought he's met you like five times before and felt bad because he does not remember. Does he know who I am? You could tell me that you

that's going to hurt my feelings. But does, no, I am. I don't know. I did avoid him at your engagement party because I was nervous. He doesn't, he, there was one night, we were with my friends from college and he just called them all Stacy because he didn't know any of their. And I don't have a friend named Stacy. Oh my God, Frank. You're so funny Frank. He's like, Stacy, Stacy, Stacy.

Do you think there's similarities between Frank and Kyle? So people say that they look alike now. Mm-hmm. My dad did not always, like, had this little goate and, like, wafty hair. I think that was like a retirement thing he kind of just like started hitting the gym and like my dad did not always look like that my dad was like a classic like businessman yeah clean-shaven like side part tell me more tell me more

it's a little heavier look nothing like Kyle back then uh-huh so there are similarities but their personalities oh my dad is as a is a teenager at heart my dad and his friends go camping every year since they were in high school and they just blow shit up and light things on fire to this day it makes Everything makes sense because you, which I don't think they've shown on the show enough, especially when you didn't have like allowed girlfriends to talk to in season two, you have such a silly playful side. I know that Kyle like started the show and Kyle's hysterical, but I'm going to say right now, I think that you are hysterical. I don't want to like plate sides, but I do think you're kind of funnier than Kyle. There are times in the house that you made me laugh so hard that I was just like peeing down my leg. sorry that was really gross but you got to break the seal somehow i mean that's why we get along so well we just make each other laugh yeah but people didn't see that side to you well last year i would say something no one would hear me and then kyle would repeat it and everyone would laugh at kyle oh don't you dare man explain my joke i also like write almost all of his and if there's a funny

instagram caption i wrote it yeah if there's a comment that's funny from his like i wrote it behind every great man is a greater woman is Amanda no um You are very great at Instagram and all that stuff. How does it feel to have more followers than Kyle? Sorry to be petty, but I've been waiting for this moment all my life. Does he talk about it? Did you guys like address it? No, we just kind of like made a joke, but we were waiting for me to surpass Lauren

Marcus. That was like the big achievement of my life, honestly. Like it didn't care like who else I passed. We were like, Stephen, cool, Carl, Lindsay, Kyle, whatever. Yeah. Do you guys still have beef? I mean, do you guys talk? Can you have beef if you don't talk to someone?

What's that when you talk? The reunion? I think I like said sorry when they got kicked off the show. That was very kind of you. Yeah. But I guess that's not considered talking if someone doesn't respond to you. What's your biggest insecurity? My tits.

What? Yes. But you have the best tits on the show. I hate my boobs. What are you talking about? This makes me angry. All throughout college, I was, like, in a long-distance relationship, finally started dating a guy.

Did he say something about your boobs? I'll kill him. He goes, he was like, Amanda, no one knew you had, like, boobs. Like, your boobs are huge. Like, I hid them. Like, I wear oversized shirts. Like, I wear sports bras. There was not one man.

I think if I flaunted my boobs on campus, I would have broken up with my long-distance boyfriend a long time ago. But also, sometimes, like, showing your boobs is, like, like a sexualizing. Sometimes I don't want to be sexualized. I think it's like slutty. Like I, no offense to anyone that loves to like show their cleavage and stuff. But like I think it's not tasteful. Like you and Paige can wear like really cute tops. Yep. That are like low cut and it looks tasteful and sleek. If I wear that same shirt, I like a prostitute. I actually got a huge fight with my brother. It was his engagement party in Indiana. And I, you know I love to wear jeans

in a black shirt. Like, yeah. If I wear the shirt that you're wearing right now, I would look Like, freaking, like, Pamela Anderson. And you look, like, absolutely, like, adorable, like, farmer's daughter. Thank you. That was the vibe I was going for. Farmersonly.com, sponsored. So, yeah, my, so we're in Indiana. And normally I'd wear, like, jeans and t-shirt, but I wanted to be respectful of my

brother's engagement party. So I brought this, like, tight, long-sleeved top with a matching long skirt. So it was, like, a set. And I walk out, and my brother's, like, are you kidding me? You're not wearing that. Is this a joke? you're trying to like get attention at my party this is indiana what are you doing because i have a big butt if i wear anything that's tight it looks like i'm inappropriate yeah straight up inappropriate and i got

so mad at him like this is expensive outfit that i put for you and then we got a huge fine enough anything to wear and we were late to the party it was all because of my butt yeah it's like a huge like i can't i mean i was going out to dinner with kyle's family and i had this like nice blouse and i walked out with it. And I love Kyle's mother, but she speaks her mind. She was like, oh, my brothers are going to love that. And I was like, all right, I'm going to change. She's so funny. Well, the good thing with having a big butt is that I, like, if I'm talking to someone, it's not distracting them. Where like you, you can see when people are distracted by your boobs. I think it became an insecurity because I got made fun of them in high school. I had the biggest

boobs out of all my friends. So you got them early. They would call me like titsmiggie. I grew them overnight. Oh, I hate that nickname. In the middle school, I was called a pancake. And then the next After that summer, I came back to middle school the next year, what is that, like, seventh and eighth grade. Eighth grade, and I got accused of stuffing because I, like, grew boobs over the summer because I, like, got my period. So, and then I was like, Tits McGee, and everyone was just so mean to me. And, like, I'd wear a bathing suit and all the boys would be like, oh, Amanda. So I just started hiding them. It sucks when, because when you have something people want, people get jealous and make you feel bad about it.

But my friends didn't, weren't jealous. They were like, I like my small boobs. I was like, okay, cool, I like your small boobs too. Does it hurt your back? Yeah. Everyone's like, I always make a joke that you look like you can tilt over, but it's like, I didn't mean to be mean, but now, like, I feel like I was mean, so I'm sorry. Oh, no.

I say that I have to hold you up. It's my feet are so big to keep me up. I say that the whole show, there's actually a producer just holding you up so you don't tip over. There's like an invisible line, like invisible strings. Would you get a breast reduction? I 100% won't when I talk about it all the time. I've been talking about it since college. I mean, to be honest.

If anyone wants to give me a free breast reduction, I'm here for. I think I was talking about this today. Some guy was saying that he hooked up with a girl with fake boobs, and he was like, I'm just not into it. I'd rather just small tits. I've always been turned off by fake boobs since I was 14 years old. I had this trainer who was like a former football player, this guy, Tony. And he was, he walked in the gym one day, really pissed off.

And he's like, never get fake boobs. And I was like, why? And he's like, my girlfriend got her boob keyed in the car and it exploded. it's all over and I was just like oh like it was so disgusting and I was like oh whenever I see fake boobs like I think of the traumatic surgery that happens yeah so I just don't think like changing your body in that way is necessarily like a positive thing sometimes but the reduction is something that like since Stasi get it yeah Perry's got it just like a reduction and a lip like these girls sag like I can fit like a whole iPhone like 10 s under 10 max under like my

boo do you remember in high school people were like if you can fit a pencil under your boob it means you have like good boobs. Oh, I was doing that since like freshman year. I was like, and then it was like binders and woolers and like everything. It's just like more and more now I can fit like a small puppy under there and it will stay. But I do think like for health reasons if you're having back problems and stuff like that. Yeah, I just don't want to be known for my boobs. Like I don't want people to like, you know, see me for my boobs. And that's what it is. Like I'm more than my boobs. I'm more than my boobs. I'm Kyle's girlfriend. I'm Kyle's girlfriend. I'm more than my boobs. I'm Kyle's girlfriend.

I'm Hannah's friend. Yeah, Hannah's friend. This was very important. I wanted you to come so bad because I wanted people to see this. Yeah, you did. So I wanted people to see the side of you that's like not just the storyline of you being the girl that Kyle always fights with on camera. Yeah.

But I want to play a game. Heaven or hell. Would you rather be cheated on or be the cheater? Oh, my God. Oh, wait. That wasn't like heaven or hell, but that's like, it's hell that I'm asking. Would you rather? God, I would rather, I would rather be cheated on.

I mean, you already didn't. You survived it. Yeah. I went through it. I couldn't mind him breaking someone else's heart like that. Have you ever cheated? No. God, you really?

I'm a good fucking. Okay, angel tits. Heaven or hell. We don't get rid of. nude and you never do reality TV again it's heaven and I'm not that it's heaven but it's not hell yeah life will go on yeah you're the one person that I know you're like okay cool like this is a lot less complicated like I still have a job yeah Amanda has a full fucking full fucking time job um the Kardashians plastic surgeon changes your whole face for free heaven or hell oh hell I don't want to

wake up not knowing who I am when I look in the mirror I don't I wouldn't be able to turn my phone on the face recognition wouldn't work right like I'd be screwed Apple help me it's me I promise my ID would look different no if you wanted to like tweak my nose a little bit or like you know but there's rumors that you've had nose or lips done oh everyone thinks got you've heard it here first and last the only thing I've ever had done in my face was I got my eyebrows microbladed for free ones good for you and that was like no I've had people who the biggest procedure I've had people like come at me and be like I mean it's got her nose done tell me and I was like no she hasn't and they're like we know look at these photos and I'm like

but look at this photo like we've gone into it yeah you lost weight from your face and it i i don't mean to be like people love saying that but you're an example of like your nose looked a little bigger when you had more weight i looked so much hotter now than i did last summer i mean i didn't want to say you you did glow up i feel like better like i look at myself like i'm more comfortable going out without makeup on than i was in the past Amanda like rarely wears makeup and i love it i love it girl thanks honey um last one a sex tape leaks heaven or hell hell i mean i've already been seen having sex on camera like i don't want like a whole like video of it a clip is enough for me how traumatizing was it

that first season she didn't know that there was necessarily like mics behind the bed and she like moaned once my first words on summer house were oh my god 10 seconds how violated did you feel it was terrible i was like i watched bravo they're never gonna air like us having sex i didn't know that i woke up did not know there was a camera in the room and then the following weekend that i was there why didn't kyle tell you i mean he was probably drunk but like i was blacked out maybe i just didn't remember so i woke up and saw that it was there and then the next weekend i was like i stretch and i put my arms behind the bed and i like felt something and i was like what is this i was like kyle there's a mic behind your bed and he didn't know no one in the house

knew that there were mics behind their beds and i was like oh my god they didn't like now Paige and I would wake up and talk so much shit And they didn't use a lot of it I told you the house was bugged The house is bugged And now we're going to wrap it up for The final game called Seven Deadly Sins What are you greedy

What are you greedy about? Amanda's really nervous about this game She's been like stressed about it the whole time Well it's happening so get it together This is like, what am I greedy about? I don't know, Hannah, what to help? What am I greedy about? Giacomole.

Instagram followers. Fame, fortune. You're greedy about, I don't know, you're such like a caretaker. I give a lot. That's why it's hard. I'm greedy about my food. I don't really like sharing my food. I'm greedy about nice bathing sand.

You're greedy about, I love what you're like answer for me. Well, I'm just trying to think. Don't Google what you're greedy about. No, I'm not. Hey, Gary. What is Amanda Vatula greedy about? Good captions. Good spray tans.

Yeah, I don't know. Oh, I know what you're greedy about. Aesthetics. Yeah. Like, you love a good aesthetic. Like, I went to your apartment, and every single corner is, like, so methodically, beautifully orchestrated. That's some fucking greedy shit. yeah i have like my yeah i'm an interior designer now too well amanda has a design background um if

you've seen the lover boy drinks she is the brains behind it who are you envious of besides me oh no one besides you um honestly sometimes i feel like i'm envious of page because she fits into like all the outfits that i want to fit into like her little her little boobies are just so perfectly placed in those tops i'm just like you know what's so funny and same with you but you said besides you yeah thank you're welcome good good save she's so funny because she's the queen of stuffing and and on camera like at first i saw she had these chicken cutlets she's definitely listening to this podcast hi page i love you i love talking about your chicken cutlets um it's just like it helps the chicken nuggets it helps like whatever she's wearing like look better fit up nice yeah like she's not doing it

to try to pretend to be something she's not It just helps the outfit. There is an ideal size boom. Yeah. But when I saw it, I was like, oh my God, this is so embarrassing. Like, I'm not going to, I hope the camera doesn't catch it. And then we were just, like, drunk and it was like 10 weeks in. And her chicken filets, what is it called?

Chicken cutlets were. Like, they look like actual chicken cutlets. Her fillet fish. Her fillet fish were, like, in my drawer. And I just took it and started throwing them at her. It was the funniest moment, but the way she reacted was so funny because she just, just had to laugh at herself but I'm just trying to bring it around that like in her head she's like wow Amanda's tits look great and then in your head you're like Paige's tits look great

and I'm just sitting there like my tits look great yeah it's more I'm envious of like the outfits that you guys are able to wear yeah you know with with your little boobies but it's kind of like the straight hair curly hair thing yeah where the grass is like always greener on the other side but um I don't think anyone would argue that you look gorgeous in your outfits well I have had to learn it's been a struggle yeah you have to honestly just learn for your body type like i have short legs and a long torso and people's like i'm in a long torso so my legs don't look stubby i only wear high-waisted if i don't wear high-waisted i look like i have nubs yeah um the fact about me i said you guys should know what are you gluttonous about and don't say nothing you're getting

really fucking annoying recently what are you googling you're cheating it no oh she's reading the definitions clothes new clothes all the time how long often do you shot and also like reality television oh my god what wait what are your favorite reality tv shows everything i watch everything i love i used to call it shitty tv i was always like who wants to watch tv with me like i loved flavor of love i love laguna beach everything i mean i love million dollar matchmaker i love every like television show there ever is that like i'm my roommate and i back when she was my roommate and i found kyle um used to watch like the worst shows on television and they were the shows that they would like go off the air halfway through the season and we'd be like what

happened we love this show so much you're that one person on twitter that's like what happened to this show yeah hours and hours like our weekends we'd be like so hung over and we would just have the TV on and not talk to each other and just watch all of our shows that we recorded the whole week so you're addicted to bad TV you're a little addicted to shopping how often do you shop I online shop a lot and I forget to return a lot so I have a lot of things I just don't wear and also online shopping when you have a body type, like me or you, where I have a small waist, huge butt and thighs. I order like five sizes and things. I actually discovered fashion nova for my butt, though.

I know. You were telling me it looks so good. This is a free ad for them, but like I've never. So you have to learn which places. What places do you love to shop? Like, what are your like four rotating places? Zara and Revolve. Rival was so fucking expensive.

I know. Is it worth it? Like, is it higher quality than Zara? I would like maybe something. some things aren't i really do revolve for like dresses and shoes i also if i have like a nice dress i need for somewhere i've been shopping nasty gal it's such bad quality but it's like 80% off and everything's like 20 bucks yeah and every now and then they nail it my occasional thing like if i need something i'll go to zara and revolve yes if i'm like looking occasionally it'll be like pretty little

things um forever 21 nasty gal hm you know all those fun places amazing when was the last time you experienced extreme wrath like when it was last time we got really pissed my god like last night no um i can't i don't i mean definitely like at some point last week kyle and i just like got into a huge fight like probably started over nothing is it like refreshing to fight with him when there's no cameras around yes because i can just like yell and scream and like not have to re-love it like i'm not embarrassed to do it i just like don't like to read like i like i like To, like, have it and have it be done with. Like, you don't regret it.

You just, you don't want to have to watch it. Yeah. Like, I don't want to go through it again. So, like, but, yeah. Do you guys, do you think you're healthy fighters, like, your good communicators? Kyle's the worst communicator. Like, but do you have a way that you communicate in your fights? Like, my parents, they fight.

Then my dad gets, like, butt hurt. My mom gets really mad at my dad. And then he waits, like, three hours. Then he realizes it was his fault and he apologizes. Whatever happened, that's how they fight. We're working on it. We're working because it's like, we're just butt. heads the whole time and I'm like what are you even talking like I'll are you both very stubborn

yes and I think it's like I'll say something and I'm talking about the bigger picture but I'll give like an example and then all he's focused on is that example and I'm like Kyle it's the bigger picture that I'm upset about like I'm not upset that you did XYZ last night I'm upset about the fact that you've done it multiple times he's just like such a dude sometimes like it's you have to communicate how his mind will process it is that make sense and he has to communicate how your mind will process it but neither of us will give in and then i'll get to the point where i'm like okay kyle we just need to like stop and walk away and he always has to have the last word you know no no no no no people have the last word kyle has to have

like the last five paragraphs like he just will like i will be walking away from him and he will follow me around the apartment like continuing to talk like i will close the door and he will open it and like he just needs to say i'm just like well it's like the 70 page email when i first heard it I was like, that's insane. And then once I met him, I was like, he's so passionate. And I could just see him being like, I need my words to be heard. And I don't care how long it is. They're going to be out there.

Yeah. And I think it was our fight last week that it got to a point where I just like put a pillow over my ears. So I didn't have to hear him. And he didn't care that I wasn't listening. He just had to get out like what he wanted to say. Like he didn't care that I couldn't hear him. So how do you ultimately resolve it once he gives his like long spiel? Well, I know that I need to calm down.

Like, I'm the type of person that just needs to, like, chill out and, like, take a moment. Think about, like, what we're fighting about, what I'm actually upset about. If I'm actually upset about anything, like, worthy. If it's worth it. And then, you know, talk like adults. So, but he likes to just, like, get it done in the moment. Like, this summer when I was like, Kyle, we'll talk tomorrow. Yeah.

That was, like, that threw him off. He was like, tomorrow. He's like, now. It was funny because you guys didn't really, like, resolve any specific issue because there wasn't a specific issue I mean there was bullshit with him getting involved in other people's relationships but there was just that moment where like obviously you don't want to fight and then when he started to laugh because the straw got stuck on his head and then you started laughing at him

and he was like I love laughter I love laughing like I didn't cry at the engagement I cried at that because it was one of those most authentic moments where you're like oh that's why we had like three really real moments and I think it was We had two real moments in the show. Yeah, that was, it was just three. It was just one, everything else. When he farted in bed. Thank you.

And when he yelled that page. When he dragged you across the floor, I looked at page down. I was like, why didn't we think of that? That's good. That's really good. When was the last time you were a sloth? Like, you're pretty productive. You have a full-time job.

Oh, I'm a sloth. Every day I get home from work, I'm a sloth. I sit on the couch and I do nothing. That's how you refuel. Do you do nothing or do you watch TV? I watch TV and I watch TV. I'm on Instagram and I'm trying to like get back to people's DMs and like look at potential collaborations and like kind of answer emails. You kind of have two jobs. So I'm not like very

productive but there's definitely days where I like co home and I'm just like a zone like I am a sloth. Like I do not move off the couch. I will order food. Kyle will get it from the man in the elevator bring it to me and I just like will not move from the couch. Good boy. Retrieve. He hates that about me but I'm like well he's like kind of a workout psycho. But it's because he's the energizer bunny he needs to run the shit off and you worked a full do you know how tiring a nine to five is it I just have to get everything done in those few hours where he works all day yeah he does a lot like yes give him credit but he has a whole different working schedule and he works all day long but he has the option to like go to the gym in the middle of the day he can create his schedule when he has energy

to go to the gym he goes to meetings you know it's he has a little bit more of a change of seat not all the time I mean the man hustles but that's what he chooses to do he chooses to wake up at seven o'clock and work until 11 at night. I don't want that life. That's why I'm not an entrepreneur. I started to see this guy who wakes up at 6.30 a.m. and it's not okay. Like, I haven't,

I'm still dealing with how I'm going to cope with it. It's not, I'm not going to fight about it yet. But if that motherfucker, I don't mind if he does it, but if he starts pressuring me, we gonna have a problem. Like, you can wake up as early as you want.

Just don't expect me to wake up. And do, yeah, my biggest pet peeve is people interrupting my REM sleep. I think Kyle stopped asking me to wake up early because I'm not a morning person. I am like the biggest bitch in the morning. So I think he finally was like, okay, you sleep. Ladies, that's how you train your men.

When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something? So this is a little difficult. But it's like, do you have an ego to you? It's so stupid. It's definitely like, and I hate this. Like Instagram influencers run the world. I'm sorry. They're like the best form of marketing.

And there's some brands that like will pay you the big bucks to promote something and there's other brands that like won't give you anything and that's fine there's some people I'll work with I'm just like I want your product send it to me I'll do it for free yeah the other day there was that like vintage t-shirt company I also want to say women need to talk about money more it's like men talk about all the time I will hit up Amanda and be like what did you get for this why it doesn't take away from her it helps women build each other up exactly and understand business and she was like get paid for this campaign but it's a small business that I like to support And then inspired me to be like, oh, my God, I want to work with some other small businesses that, like, would never get that kind of promotion, but that's my way of giving.

Yeah. So if it's a company that I want to work, like, want to work with and they don't have a budget, I'll do it for free if I'm like, I want this product anyway. Or if it's someone who's like trying to get started, I will, again, I will really only do it if it's something that I want and feel passionate about. Or they have a really cool story. Yeah. If they have like a new toothbrush and like I don't need another toothbrush. and they want me to promote it for free. I'm not going to do that.

I had this guy send me a wooden thing of me and my cat. And I was like, of course, I'm going to post this because it is the greatest thing I've ever received. Yeah. And you want to, like, share that with your fans and your followers. But yeah, there's some things I won't. But then there are times when it's like a bigger company. And they like, they want me to do this, like this whole thing.

And I know how much they've paid like other. There's huge big time celebrities doing it. And they're like, we'll send you. you know, two of these for free and, you know, we'll see how it goes. No. And I'm like, excuse me, like, I know that you're paying, like, you have huge time celebrities that are not doing this for free. Don't tell me you're going to send me like something and then see how like the offer goes

or the offer me like $125 for like five Instagram stories and two posts. That's what I spend in a dinner in New York City. And it's terrible. Like it is because I feel bad like being like, that's not a. enough money. But at the same time, it's like Instagram influencers are writing the world. If I, if there's someone that, there are people out there that like look up to us, let's say. They're like, I love Hannah so much. I want to have her hair. And you post a hair product. There's people out there who are going to buy that hair product because they want hair like you.

Yeah. If you're doing it for $125, that, that company is robbing you. What you're talking about is just understanding your value. And my thing is weird because a couple months ago, I didn't have. that kind of marketing value and really the flip of a hat suddenly brands that I would like be begging to work with are now offering me stuff and I have to be the one that puts my foot down and says this is what I'm worth yeah and I'm willing to walk away because I can't a lot of the time even like starting a job will accept things just to get started but then you're behind the whole time and I like I'm I that's how and I range from like I think the least I've made on something is like $300 and the most that I made was

$10,000 and it was like a multiple post thing but most of the time everything is like around like a thousand I don't even know like what to ask for girls listen to me I know you have like Kyle that helps you which is good and like give their parents but the point is is no one knows shit about what's going on with Instagram it's so it's still fairly new we're only a couple years into this incredible marketing platform everything is negotiable yeah think of when you want something from someone you're going to tell them what you want which is selfish which is okay but then you're not you're expecting them to say something back never take the first offer even if they say no never take the first offer and i never i thought that was like a selfish thing it's not it's called business yeah because

in reality if it's a big company they have a budget and if they really can't give you more then they're going to have to tell you that like we can't give you more yeah and then work it out and it doesn't have to be like a mean thing it's like hey we're two business people working together I find something that gives us value. For example, if I'm like Amanda, I want to pay you to show up at an event, I'm not going to give you the most amount of money I have in my budget. I'm going to give you the least. Yeah.

And then it's your job. Like, I'm going to be like, I can afford 400. It's your job to step it up. Yeah. And then even if people are like, I'm sorry we can't do that. And, you know, you go back and you say, okay, I can't, I'm not going to do an Instagram post then. I'll do like a series of stories.

So only lives for 20. You can like negotiate it. It's so negotiable. And then there are people that, like, they just won't have the money that you, are requesting so you have to make a decision like is this good for you know my quote unquote image like and I I swear I will only push things that I truly feel passionate about yeah yeah I don't like I don't I don't have it in me to be like you know unless they offer me like $100,000 unlike you guys are all getting sold some bullshit but hopefully if the company's

doing that well there's something behind their product yeah oh I love that got all pumped up when excuse you when was the last time you lusted over someone who's your celebrity crush i get asked this all the time i feel like you won't my hall pass i like always say adam levin just because like that was at one point in my life but like i don't know like if i feel that way i got like very annoyed by him at the super bowl it was like chris hensworth there's like a lot of sexy men out there do you like Australians i didn't know that um yeah their accent hello accents are hot you know that hannah girl you're up preaching to the choir there's a lot of sexy I like I feel like there's a lot of sexy men I feel like I like the like the ugly sex like the ugly hot men well I like guys who look like they could take a punch so like I don't want their nose to be prettier than mine oh I do not like a little I like a strong nose strong nose well both of our dads have strong notes like my dad has a big strong like I don't like something a man with like a huge like I'm trying to think of the word honker on his face like a huge like like not but like a strong man I love a strong nose like my man can not like a huge like my man can not

have a cuter nose than me. Also, I don't want his eyebrows to be better than mine. Kyle has really nice eyebrows, but you can't really see them, so it's fine. We can't see their blonde. That's fine. We'll let him pass that. So, Amanda, I love you so much. I want to wrap this up with, you've been through a shit ton.

What advice would you give to the listeners of how to cope with your hell? I mean, I think the way that I've done is just like taking everything day by day. Like, tomorrow's going to be a new day. and just to kind of always take a step back and take a breath and think about why you're feeling the way that you're feeling and know that like tomorrow might not get better but like maybe the day after well like there's there's always a solution to your problems and it you know it won't be easy but you have to trust your gut in every situation because you know yourself better than anyone else does i thought it was really cool that even though your parents straight up were like disgusted by kyle's actions your dad was so amazing when Kyle asked for his blessing because women are not property anymore. There's not like a dowry or whatever it's called that we're giving to the guy who's proposing. He basically said, I feel my way, but it's Amanda's decision. Amanda's going to make your own decision.

That's why I have a crush on Frank. But it's so true, I get easily influenced by my mom. Like I've broken up with multiple guys deep down because she's right. But like I'm so influenced. how do you find that like inner voice that helps you make these decisions? I've just always trusted. Also all of America is telling you you're an idiot at one point. I know.

I've like always trusted my gut. Like I just know what's right for me. And I know that like if I take anyone else's opinion, like there's a chance that I'll regret it because that's not how I felt and that's not what I wanted to do. It's like, you know, I've always worn what I wanted to wear. I've always like, you know, done my hair. I pierce my nose without anyone else's like input or opinion. I just like make my decisions and I follow through with that.

some confidence in that it's important is it because you've seen positive results i just like don't i'm too afraid to like ask anyone else what they think because i don't want to be judged so i just like do it on my own did you say you're not a confident person i'm not i lack a lot of confidence i think i come off i think i've become more confident because i've been making these decisions and you've kind forced yourself to have to be what are you not confident about everything i don't know like i if it was like three years ago i would have never come on this podcast i hate talking about myself and like talking to people like i don't know i just i lack like i'm very insecure and i don't believe in myself i also think that it explains why you and kyle are good together because kyle has like

an abnormal stupid amount of confidence so i feel like he brings that out of you yeah and you probably humble his ass and he like he'll walk into a party and like everyone knows him and says hi and like if i walked into a party like everyone's back would still be turned but then when i walk in with kyle they're like hey oh it's Amanda too and I'm like yeah hi and I just feel like being with him has made me become more confident um but yeah but confidence is a perspective it's not something you're born with or without it's really like what life teaches you and if you've been bullied in high school or if you've had people criticize you a lot in life your confidence can go down but the one thing that you start with the one thing you should learn to start with being confident about is your inner

voice yes that no one knows you better than you yeah and you know what you want And you should be confident in your own decisions. Like, once you make that decision, like, for you, know that that's right. And I think that's what has helped me because every decision I have made has led me to where I am today. And they've all been, I don't care what anyone else says, they've all been the right decisions. Like, everything that I've done, like, you know, look where we are. I mean, it's incredible. And people would come up to me and say, like, what would you do for your account in early?

Do you think she should stay with him? Just ask me a lot of questions. And at the end of the day, I was like, I have my own opinions of what, if I was in a hypothetical relationship and a guy did that to me what I would do but do we know what's going on behind closed doors with Amanda and Kyle no and like you've we're very close and thank you for giving us like this incredible inside look into your life today but at the end of the day you're living your own life yeah you're making your own decisions because then they no one gives a even reality TV no one's going to remember stuff a year later so it's like live your life the way you want to live

yeah and it's not like I would have let anyone cheat on me I've been cheated on before and that was that you know I was done with them but there was something different. I'm so excited to have fun this summer with you. Whether we're filming or not, we don't know. We're going to hang out no matter what. I mean, you're going to be forced to. Oh my God, you're starting to talk to me off camera. This is amazing. I'm just kidding. This is a joke we've been doing from the beginning because we don't like each other. We hate each other. Follow Amanda Petula. She is over 200,000 followers. Probably can be 300 soon. You better get on that. Amanda, at Amanda Batula. Yeah. Follow lover boy. If you're interested in

lover boy drink lover boy drink lover boy she runs the account it's gorgela um follow me for the heck of it i don't know like i'm here too and she's kind of funny thank you guys for coming to hell with me my little devils and i'll talk to you later bye bye