Berner Phone - Berner Phone 113: What's Bugging You?

Episode Date: October 20, 2025

Instead of taking it out on their families, the dialers are airing their grievances on the pod and letting us know what's been bugging them. get tickets to Hannah's tour get tickets to Des' shows

Hi, it's Hannah Burner. And Des Bishop. Thanks for calling the burner phone. If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast. Hi, my little dialers. Mommy and Daddy are back in the studio with our son Chris. A. Little Chris.

Little Chris. They call them Little C. Yeah, We Chris. We call them over in Ireland. What do you call him? Wee Chris. Oh, I thought you said weak Chris. Not weak, Chris.

Scrawly. No, the whole generation is weak. We need. Very Gen Z joke, but anyway. Paige and I talked about how the Gen Z's are weak because they started putting water in their beer pong. Are you familiar with any of this? No.

Did you play beer pong in Ireland? Hannah, I haven't drank since I'm 19 years old. Oh yeah, you are not the right person to talk to you. Have you seen people play... No, beer pong is very much an American college thing. What about Flip Cup? Hannah, none of these things existed in my youth. Okay.

Well, then I've no further comment. I mean, we've only been married for three years. You think bringing up adolescent drinking games is going to be my area of expertise? By the way, the whole conversation was like, oh, it's such an ick if he can't play beer bong or flip him up. I would never. He can't provide for you. He was going to finger your lap. That is also like a very American thing.

No, but if he doesn't play it because he's European, that's so hot. Okay, that's fair. That's the ultimate above everything. He's like, what's this little game you guys play? So, anyway, English. So welcome back, welcome back to the podcast, everybody. So the episode is going to be like your rants, you know, what's bugging you. But there was something from last week that we need to chat about.

Okay. Because I threw out a very loose statement that intergenerational trauma or a generation. trauma is kind of bullshit. There's no science behind it. Well, the Spotify comments lit up to say that there is some science behind it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I've fought you on that. I feel like I was on the good side of history on that one. Well, I don't think we actually fought about it at all.

And, you know, in me a mama, I do a lot of... Chris, let's rewind. That moment came in a fast. Because in me and mama, I do jokes about generational trauma, but in the back of my mind, I'm always like, yeah, but there's no real... No, genetically, it's scientifically true. Yeah, so any... It's called epigenetic.

A lot of people message about it. But then, Chris, can you play somebody that has a degree in psychology, I think? Yeah. We got a doctor. We got a woman in STEM. Hey, guys. Love you. Love the podcast.

I'm a psychology student. And I was listening to the pod last week. And Des was very adamant that there was no evidence for generational trauma. But there is. Um, so in one of my classes, we were talking about these studies that they've done on animals where they like basically introduce like a threat to their survival to the mom and then they survive. And if they can survive, their genes are changed epigenetically. And then those genes are passed down to their offspring. So then their offspring show like a fear towards that specific thing. So it's kind of like you can pass down phobias of certain things. And then. The assumption is that that can be translated into humans and more, like, complex trauma as well. So not to get all, like, nerdy, but I figured Des might want that information. Thanks, guys.

First of all, I'm obsessed with a girl calling him to tell my husband he's wrong. Thank you for that. Thank you. And she cited her sources, obsessed with that. And so polite about it. She was just like, hey. Well, no, because she understands that we're talking about learning here. And we love learning and growing on this.

pod. That's our number one thing. I've never actually known about the science behind it. So it was a very exciting week for me because the Spotify, well before this came in, because this only came in like the other day, the Spotify comments mentioned it. And I went down a rabbit hole of epigenetics. So here's the exciting thing. I listened to Neil deGrasse Tyson's podcast and he had this expert on it. And so what I'm going to try to do is I'm going to try to get her on Burnaphone and have the dialers message in with their questions about generational trauma. Wow. Because it's very interesting.

But the thing is that, like, I think a lot of people, they like to sort of make these assumptions about how, like, trauma and past generations might affect them. But it's very complicated. It was very interesting. So anyway, I'm very happy. Well, the story is nothing's your fault. Yeah. Well, I mean, I would love to blame all the pain.

I am. I'm blaming them. So what do you think your... Holocaust? You're putting that on there? Yeah, for sure. For sure. I was talking.

Well, no, because it's interesting because they can't, they don't have like the, the, there is a study on Holocaust survivors. You know, this is all stuff that I learned last week. So I actually, I was talking recently. I learned like I did have family members passed in the Holocaust. Did you know that? Well, I just assumed. So did I.

I just assumed, but it was like kind of confirmed. Oh, wow. Yeah, my dad told me. And then Sicily, it's just rough. It's rough being a Sicilian. The rest of the Italians make fun of us. It's just, it's rough. But that's why I think I joke about, like, how immigrants have such great senses of humor

because your family definitely went through something, whether they left for a reason or the transitions. There's normally drama that ensues to make someone pick up their family and leave. Yeah. Well, the thing is that what I can't figure out, which is why I want to get this woman on, is, like, what, like, what actually affects you? Because here's the thing that people also make an assumption on is that it's negative. Well, that's what I was saying. But the thing is that, the humor is positive. Well, yeah, humor or, well, that, that may or may not be like, that's the thing is. I'm not saying wasps aren't funny, but they don't have the same sense of humor. White Anglo-Saxon Protestants, for those that don't know what Hannah is.

referring to. Like, once I'm going to that. No, but the thing is that people don't realize that like, these are like survival mechanisms. Yes. Like some of them are good. Well, also someone told me that certain, yes, certain genetics are more athletic or like better at sports

because they're better at dealing with high stress situations. Interesting. Like certain combinations of people. But here's the thing. And this is why I was throwing out what I threw out last week is that people just make these sweeping assumptions. about how much the generational differences. So I would love to know more about what.

Because here's the thing, my dad and mother both had like very intense trauma, right? And from what I can see in these studies, the direct parent-to-child thing is really what is the most. Well, because basically, from what I understand, it's how the stress affects the egg or the sperm. You know, like I, but I don't, obviously, this is all stuff that I just learned in the last week. But my dad had this horrific childhood, so. So this is what you were doing on your phone this week. That's just what I was, you thought I was looking at porn? I was looking up epigenetics.

Anyway, fascinating. So that's what's great about Burnaphone is that we're learning here. We're learning. And when you guys know something we don't know, you just tell us. But here's the problem, though, is that I have so much from both sides. That's the issue. And that's what makes you beautiful. We didn't even get through all of mine.

That's what makes you beautiful. On the last episode of the Family Secrets. I've always been attracted to people who have overcome something. Like whenever, I mean, maybe that's me trying to be like a fixer, but I don't feel like I really try to fix you. I was like, this is him. I mentioned you when you're 45. I was like, this is what we're going to get.

I also some, I did see a TikTok recently saying that women can change and men can't change. And I didn't look into it any further. And I just felt it was true. I'm sure the dialers will be in the comments straight away. There's a study on that. It's called fuckboy inetics. Then you get into like nature versus nurture and like how much of this is genetic versus like how much of it is the way that you were brought up. But it is fascinating how genetics can change.

Yes. Well, that's that's the whole new world that we've walked into because of a random comment. Mm-hmm. Because the funny thing is it in me and mama, I throw it out there like, generational trauma is real, you know, in my joke. But I was doing that with no knowledge at all. And in the back of my mind, I was like, this is all bullshit, but it's quite convenient. No, it's true.

You have to redo that show now. I want it, yeah. I wonder if I'm passing down generational trauma to Butter. Yeah. I think I am. Because they say that you're... I think you got Butter pretty traumatized. I wouldn't take responsibility for any Butter's trauma.

Not an ounce. Oh, Butter had a rough time in the hands since this last week. No, that's what I'm saying. You're not responsible for any of her trauma. True, I did get her, I don't know what she went through. Yeah, she went through a lot. It's not your fault. Because I got her like, she was like four or five months when I got her.

That's a lot of time out in the streets. It's not your fault. Oh, baby. Butter is not your fault. My little baby. She was so scared. But unfortunately, she somehow became my responsibility. You're talking about me or butter?

Butter. Not you. I have to do with both of their trauma. Listen, we all help each other through our traumas. But we hope that over time, your trauma is less than your parents, hopefully. Yeah. But the thing is that you can become better equipped to deal with this world through some of these things. That's the whole thing.

Not to get dark, though, but our parents didn't have to deal with, like, MySpace Top 8 trauma, getting Snapchat dickpicks trauma, screenshoting the wrong text, or copy and pasting the wrong thing on AIM and sending it to your crush. when you were talking about him, trauma, seeing what everyone looks like and what they're doing at every second of the day. Trauma. Well, this will be the next phase. How is that affected the genetics?

Yeah. So, anyway, we walked into, this is the, Bernaphone's departure into a brave new world of science. Yes. So on one of the weeks where you can't do it, I'm going to try to get this woman. Yeah.

But, by the way, I have no idea if she wants to do it. Well, I think you like it. She doesn't know. Because you love history. She doesn't know. But I looked, I followed her, and I'm going to try to find her. If anyone knows her, her name is Bianca Jones Marlin. And she's the professor in Columbia, and epigenetics is their world.

In fact, she's citing a study that this woman, our dialer was citing a study that this woman was involved in. She's like, please use my full name, my government name on your dumbass podcast. I know, she's a published, she's out there. She's the epigenetics lady. I want her to sit here with Chris and have the dialer's message in with their questions about. I also want generational trauma. I would love you to tell her about your trauma. Well, she, she's not like a therapist.

She's a scientist interested. But in a bench. How genes are affected. So it'll be interesting. You know, because basically what I think would be funny from the dialers is like, what can we blame on our genetics and what is our own responsibility or our actual parents' responsibility for their own behavior? that's the fascinating thing

but then the parents will blame their parents and thus forth yes because you know we don't know you know there's a lot of trauma out there I just said thus forth and you didn't even acknowledge it sorry you just you speak even listen to me I did and you said thus forth

and I understood what you were saying actually that is something you would say and the pigeon went across the bay thus forth isn't that a quarter of years That is not a quote of mine. What is it? Not inclined to talk.

What's the one about over the water? What? Has the crow flies? Yeah. That's the same thing. And the pigeon went across the water. That's what I hear when you say. Thus forth.

Thus, making the journey shorter would be actually, if you wanted to actually use those forth correctly. The pigeon went across the water. Thus forth making the journey shorter. Hearing you like speak like, shake. experience stuff with your queen's accent is so funny. Hannah, you get offended when I use punctuation, so this is no. There's also this thing going around that I posted TikTok about, about LOL.

People are making fun of millennial women in particular for saying LOL at the end of text. Like every text we send, we say LOL at the end just to let them know. Yeah, let them know. You don't want to be. And then I said, I'm even worse. I do an LOL sandwich. and I put LOL in the beginning to let them know what they said was great

crying emoji I acknowledge it and then I say what I say and then I end it with LOL where does text like a serial killer? No, I text like a normal human being that grew up at a time where you had to be grammatically correct

and express information. Does it make you annoyed that I put LOL in a lot of my texts? I'm very accustomed to people's use of LOL. It doesn't affect me. In fact, all the kind of of all the stuff that goes viral online about like these things, these inconsequential things, they don't really affect me.

I know what to say. And I don't know what you're up to in the Spotify comments. Do you comment to people in the Spotify comments? Rarely. Because my thing is, especially on Instagram too, sometimes someone will ask you something. They'll be like, when's the next time you're coming down south and you'll respond and be like, I'm going to Atlanta, period. And I'm working on it. Working on it, period. And it looks like you're being like, going to Atlanta. And I'm like, oh my God, these people. That's not my problem, me.

You got to add like four emojis. No, I don't. I don't have to. Or a lot of isolation marks. I'll be 50 in less than four weeks. And I have lived my life without any real issues around this terse. Well, you don't know. They don't tell you.

And then why is it my problem? None of your business. Ignorance is bliss. I live in the. He goes, no one texts me anymore. And that's peaceful to me. Yeah. Oh, how do I love to tell you about Boland Branch?

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I'll pick one that's on theme. We'll do, oh, you want to go with that one first. You brought it up straight away. You have to say excited. Now you're putting him in a pinch. Sorry, I didn't mean to say that. Sorry, Chris was excited, period. All right, we'll go with my super excited segment.

You know what's bugging me? People saying that the bush is back because the bush never left. She's always been here. I mean, not enough people talked about the bush, but she was never gone. on the bush she's chic she's feminine she is the symbol of being a woman and if you're a man if he's upset about the bush then he's a creep he's a pito he's disgusting by you leave him break up with him um but people saying the bush is back just because of the new undies that dropped with the fur on the front um hello she never left everybody's just more proud of her now

because she's become a little more mainstream with the new drop um that's all i got to say love the bush she's always been here all right love you mom and dad we love you do you know where the bush did go to gen z's boys hair dues my culture is not your costume on your head you guys look fucking insane it looks like my pubic hair is on your head interesting yeah do you ever see it well they have a lot they get permed so it looks like are they actually getting perms yeah wow Yeah. Pube head. Like, are we bullying teenagers right now?

Yeah. You're a stupid boy haircut. Um, no, yeah, I was thinking about the bush. This is my thing. Did I try to get rid of the bush when it was trending at a time? Yes. Unfortunately, am I Italian? And as much as you laser down there, it can only do so much.

Yeah. Have you ever seen these TikToks, the landscaping TikToks where the guy comes in like, hey, can I, your garden's really overgrown? Can I cut it for you for you? free. Have you seen that guy? Yeah. Yeah. I wish that, I wish some fucking laser person would come to our house. And then do the thing. With a weed wacker. They speed it, they, you know, he speeds it up and suddenly it's like, and you see so flying around. By the way, I, by the way, I am, I'm pro Bush. I, like, listen, I, I, I have Bush for the record. Like, I don't, I don't shame my

puse. You know, I've felt slightly shamed by sort of modern trends that I trim it a bit, I tidy it up a bit, but I I, you know, I've always been, I've been of the opinion that I don't know why we decided to let this happen, it's because of porn, man.

But apparently like guys are shaving everything now. Well, that's what I'm saying, that's crazy to me. It's all from porn. For porn. It's all for porn. It's all for porn. But and I get, like,

Like, if you do it the right way, they say it looks bigger because you don't want to feel like it's, like, lost in the bush. Yeah. But for a girl, I can understand having more genesis qua, because, like, sometimes you're wearing bikinis. Yes. And, like, I once wore a bathing suit, and I didn't even realize I didn't even shave low enough. Like, some of these bathing suits are tiny that you're putting on. But for dudes, what? What's going in?

Like, also, when it grows back and it's all prickly, like, that's... I know. When I had to stick with cancer, not to bring down the mood. but they shaved. I told you that story before, right? They only shaved one side. Did I mean to tell you that story, Chris? No.

That's awesome. Yeah, because I had a junk about it, which was like, they decided to shave only half of my pubic hair. So not only was it bad enough, I came out and I'd lost the testicle, but I had like a cool MoD 1980s, like hip-hop hair. It was like, how you like me now? So anyway, I had this like half bush, but the growback period was so uncomfortable.

Yeah, yeah, chafage. Yeah, so. I've actually never, other than that time, I've never, never shaved. So do you know she's referencing Kim Kardashian came out with these thongs? Did you see that on your algorithm at all? No. Obsessed that didn't come across your desk. It's thongs with like a fluffy bush on top of it, so it looks like you have a bush.

Oh. But I think it's obviously like rage bait and like just to start conversation, which it has, everyone's talking about it. Kim knows how to get people talking. Yeah, I really think that, you know, I've always been a fan. of bringing back people just having Bush. I don't believe in this. I mean, listen, I'm old enough to remember a time where, like, that was, like, the thing.

It was like, oh, shit, bush. You're seeing Bush. That means you're really seeing, like, the real shit. Oh, like, it was, like, really sexy. Well, just because that meant, like, that you, you know, because Playboy didn't have Bush. Did you not know that? No.

Yeah, well, maybe it had a little bit. Anyway, like, real porn, you were, like, seeing, like, it all. So then it was like, oh, shit. So Playboy. Maybe Playboy did have, like. Was shaved? No, Playboy. A lot of times.

didn't see it. Yeah, maybe I'm wrong on that. It was just boobs. I'm going to do some facts. Yeah, do some facts. Okay, Chris, come down.

Maybe I'm a little wrong on that. But what I mean is basically like, when you saw Bush, that meant it was like, it was more pornographic. Bush? Bush? I can't remember, honestly.

Also, like, let her be, like, she doesn't always have to be out here, you know? Who? Like, your vagina. Like, let her, like, have some coverage. Like, sometimes she's cold. Like, let her, like,

let her have a moment, you know? Hey, man, you know. If she's just always... The human body has hair there for a reason. We're the ones that decided to eradicate it. I mean, I do think, like, sometimes if it's too crazy and, like, you're working out a lot, it could get, like, out of control, dirty or something. But, um, I don't know.

I also don't shave my legs, so I don't know what to bring to this conversation. I was sorry, so I don't know what to bring to this conversation. There's a lot of body and to have to shave your legs, though. Yeah, but like, some girls do it every day. Oh, right, yeah. Like, I go through a grace period where, like, it's shaved, it's prickly, and then I, once it starts looking like a man's leg, then I shave it. Where some girls, the second, there's like a little prick, but then I'd be shaving every four hours. Yeah, there's not enough time in a day.

I don't have time. You'd have to have, like, a shaver employed. Exactly. Like, how not you're showing? Like a, you know, like, like, like, like a, like a. Like a gay assistant. Like Hannah, you're selling, come on. I get like a 5 o'clock shadow on my calf.

On your cat. We're the opposite. I love you. Like, it's funny because you're of Irish descent and Irish guys don't grow. But I'm particularly smooth. Even by Irish standards. This guy's like a dolphin. Yeah, I'm smooth.

He has like three hairs on his chest. Meanwhile, I have more hair on my nipple than you have on your chest. Yeah. I mean, you're hairier than me. This is a fact. But, like, do you like it? I love my wife and everything about her. Thank you.

So, anyway, the Bush, listen, I'd be more than happy with the Bush coming back. Not just for the feminists, but for everybody. Oh, do you think it's like a feminist thing? No, but I do think, you know, like, there has been times where, like, feminists, like, they stop shaving their arms, like a symbol of, like, going against the male gaze. I just watched a documentary about the Lilith. Fair. The what? The Lilith Fair.

Do you know who Lilith was? No. Lilith was apparently the first wife of Adam, but she left him because she didn't want to just like live with him in a garden or something. Like Adam and Eve? Yeah. Oh, right. So she left him to like go do her own thing.

Oh. And Eve ended up staying and getting. Who wrote this story? I have to Google it. But then someone said they, someone on TikTok said they think, they think, Adam was lying about Eve biting the apple. She thinks he ate it, and that's why men have Adam's apples in their throat. Wow, that's great.

Period. But then, so Lilith was, like, the one that decided, like, I don't want to be your wife, and it was kind of, like, feminist. So there was this thing called Lilith Fair that Sarah McLaughlin created, and it was, like, all these badass female artists, 1997, in 1999. I watched a weekend. Oh, that. Oh, okay. And it was, like, amazing.

but they um these women were show they did this thing were like for lineups for a lot of music lineups they couldn't or like even on the radio they wouldn't put two women back to back which is very like stand-up comedy they wouldn't put two women back to back on the radio in like the 90s the late 90s isn't that crazy but lily fair everyone's like no one's going to buy tickets to watch all these women perform because it was like 10 top women it's selling out like it's doing amazing and in 1999 or something three of them got nominated for Grammys like it was amazing and one of them sang at the Grammys or they no they put all three women together on stage for one performance and all the guys like Kid Rock had his own performance but all the women that were nominated sang together

which was annoying but this one girl sings and she raises her hand when she sang and she hadn't shaved her armpits and that became the entire story of like the Grammys instead of like look how amazing these women are. It was all, like, look at her and her bushy armpit. And she, it's funny when you hear her say it, because, like, it wasn't some, like, political stance. She just was like, I hadn't been shaving. Like, it wasn't that interesting.

Like, she wasn't, like, I was saying, fuck the man. Like, but then it became this whole, like, these angry feminists, that little affair, not shaving, being girls, whatever. But then it's funny to be like, it's all just so socially constructed. Yes, it's all socially constructed. Yes, it's all socially constructed. That is some kind of like, fuck you to the man. China, they weren't shaving their armpits when I was there.

Oh, wow. Just for the record. It's all socially constructed. It's all nonsense. But then at the same time, I understand that some people like the aesthetic. I'm not judging people who do shave it. I'm just saying like it's fine to not. I shave my armpits just because it prevents the B.O.

Right. I don't have to shave mine. I got about 10. I'm not saying I don't get B.O., but very unhairedy armpits. If we have kids one day. Do you think one of them's going to be like super hairy and one's going to be like a little dolphin? Well, find out.

But all I know is the hairy one's getting blamed on you. That's for sure. Now, the big, you know what the big drama is going to be? We have kids. Circumcise or no circumcise. That's going to be the big issue. Well, you're the one who's a man and you know what it's like to have an uncircumcised pee

as they say in the biz. So I feel like I'd leave it up to you. Really? Yeah, I just don't want my son, my unborn son, to feel like bullied or different if he's raised in America. But then again, we might not, America might not be a thing in five years. Circumcision might not even be available by doctors. We might not have doctors in five years. Well, the crazy thing is that like Adam and Eve, circumcision is actually just religious nonsense.

that somehow has like held on and then they try to make, you know, they try to make examples of like why it matters. But there's very small, only small health benefits to circumcision. But that'll be for another part. Let them light up the Spotify comments on that one. We checked out quite a bit of controversy there. Yeah, I got a little wild on them. Yeah, what?

Like, what? Sorry, Mama period. And I'm on a fucking feminist rant, which is fine, you know. No, the whole time I couldn't concentrate at the beginning of that story because I was like, oh, the bullshit Adam and Eve story has an extra bullshit thing that's connected to it, you know? So anyway, Chris, do you know one of people who are homophobic, form of homophobic, form of homophobic? How can I be homophobic? My bitch is gay.

We were homophobic saying it's Adam and Eve. It's not Adam and Steve. It's like, well, it's not even Adam and Eve, okay? It's all bullshit. We're not going to get too deep. Let's just, let's not offend anybody. We'll just stick to the Old Testament. The Old Testament's bullshit.

That's pretty much accepted, right? I mean, people know that, right? There's stories. Is the New Testament not? I'm not saying anything. I'm just saying, for now we're talking about the Old Testament. Does the Old Testament feel like, okay, why do you have to bring my age into this? Yeah, the Old Testament's like, it's ages.

Okay, yeah, we have more magic and slavery in ours, but still. They're like, can you use vintage? Can you use the consignment? The vintage testament? Can you use the like... Yeah, fur was okay when we wrote this? It was a different time. Can you use the Distinguished Testament, not old?

Yeah. Can you use the of a certain age testament? Classic. Classic. Classic. Classic Bible. Classic Bible hits here on Bible study. The OG Bible.

I'm sorry. Very loose. Retro. Yeah, the retro, retro. Throw it back, Bible. Retro allegory. Throw back Bible. It's crazy. All right, Leviticus. Play another hit there.

Who's Leviticus? It's just one of the books. Hi, Mom and Dad. I have a topic suggestion. I feel like it would be fun if we call in and say, let's debate this. And I would suggest a thing to debate. and I'm going to suggest nighttime or morning showers. I personally like a nighttime shower because I feel like it washes off the day and relaxes me. Fine to get in the shower right away when I wake up is jarring to me and I need to slowly start my day.

I know there are people out there that absolutely cannot start the day without showering, but it relaxes me. so I'm a nighttime shower girlie. So I think it'd be fun to do it. Let's debate this, Colin. So just a suggestion. Love you guys so much. Saw you in San Diego, by the way. It was great.

Can I say something insane that I just realized? You're on a roll. We live like an unorthodox schedule lives where like does and I aren't wake up in the morning, going to work, coming home, cooking dinner. I don't know when you shower. I've never seen you shower I actually like you'll say like I showered but I don't know when it was

I literally never I know that you shower after like you play sports but like otherwise I don't know like what your shower routine is I actually don't care honestly I only I only shower before I have to do something really yeah you shower on a need to know basis no need to shower basis on a need to shower basis very specifically but like some people like I shower I'm a

nighttime shower. Yeah, so you're a night time. That's why I left it in because Hannah is a nighttime shower. And I'm very strict with it. Like if I go, if I go out, like when I used to like party back in my day and it was like 2 a.m. I come home. I'm jumping in the shower. And people thought I was crazy. But I need to shower like before a show. You know, I shower. Yeah, I would never shower before a show. But you don't have a fro though. You know, I have like a white man's fro. If I shower before a show, that means I have to blow dry it, which takes like a full hour. But I have, if I don't blow dry my hair, I have an Afro.

I mean, you've seen it. It's relaxed as I've gotten older. But like, if, you know, if I just decide, like, oh, I'm just going to go out, I'm, I've got to. But your shower is a little more, like, makes you look better where, like, with me, when I shower, that's undoing everything I've put on through the day. Yes, which is understandable. Which is more annoying. So the funny thing about this is that in China, they have certain stereotypes or things that they like to talk about

about what's different between East and West. and one of the top three things that they mention is you guys shower in the morning we shower at night so in China the norm is to shower in the evening because they believe it's been a busy day it's dirty dusty life out there at the end of the night before you're going to bed you clean yourself you get your bed clean yeah that's their thinking also what are people doing

in the night that you wake up like feeling so gross like I understand you could sweat in your sleep but like yeah and I do understand people feeling more awake when they shower yeah that's but that's my thing I never want to kind of wake myself up. But also... I have a nice coffee and a poop, and I'm ready to go. Actually, just be honest, I'm never ready to go.

I don't really wake up to, like, 5'clock. Yeah, because we don't have to get up. And a lot of people like it for their morning wake-up routine. Yeah. You know? And I guess people's... My hair would look better if I, like, showered, blow-dried it. But this is a thing.

If I have to be somewhere in the morning and I have to wake up two hours beforehand, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. What's that? If I have to wake up... two hours before or something, I don't like the early stuff. Like when someone shows up at like 8 a.m.

like quaffed, that's incredible. Yeah, but that's because they have like regular morning responsibilities. Okay. You know, that was one of the great things about moving to Ireland when I was 14. And I'm not saying that the Irish are dirty.

But what I am saying is that they were making fun of Americans for like how they always, they have to shower like every single day. And that's when I learned you do not need to shower every day. And your skin will thank you for it. Well, there's a lot of...

Your skin will thank you. The girl community, there's a lot of drama about that we've trained our hair to be, like, oily because we wash it every day. And it's called, what's it called? Page does it all the time. Hair, something, where you have to let your hair get oily for, like, a week, and not shower. And then your hair stops producing as many oils type thing. But my thing is, I'm so oily that it's not worth it.

I have to shower every day. The internet, if I had to let it go for. a week. You know, like, obviously, people have their things that they say, but what a Hannah's OG's was that her hair was greasy. Well, yeah, they always go, she looks like she doesn't shower. And I'm like, I literally showered the most as anyone in that house. Like, I was always in the shower.

Also, I am greasy. I'm sorry, I'm greasy, but you know what, guess what grease does? It keeps your skin glowing. Yes. So it keeps you glowing. Also, can I just address It's so fucking annoying And I don't look at a lot of the comments

Oh no, I didn't mean to trigger you It's people who follow me They're like not being like mean about it But like if I don't have lipstick on And I post a video just talking I get 40 comments in my DMs being like Babe, put on chapstick or get lip blush Do you know what lip blushes?

No It's when you like tattoo your lips your natural lips to be like more of a pink color. But it's like, I naturally have very pale lips. That's just the color of my lips. You're a pale lip person. Why? Is that a problem?

Is that a problem? Is that a problem? You have a pale lip? No, I just. No, like, I stand with the pale lip. Women have all these things. It's like, well, I have a long torso. I have a slightly asymmetrical phase.

You know, like, women always have these things. And then suddenly you realize there's a full Reddit community of people. The pale lip people. Have you heard of the hooded eye community? The hooded eyes? No. Are there a secret society? It's like, well, all the celebrities are getting their hooded eyes cut out.

Oh. But like Emma Stone has hooded eyes. Jennifer Lawrence has hooded eyes. It's actually like a beautiful thing. But a lot of girls are getting their eyelids chopped off so their eyes are more open. But I have like one slightly hooded eye. Oh, I never noticed that you had a variation in your eyes. You're not going to seem to the same after this.

Oh, my God. Between the pale eyes. lips in the hooded eyes. I don't know how I fell in love with you. I don't know how I fell in love with you. Because when I do my cat eye, I have to do it slightly different on one of the eyes. But yeah, hooded eyes is a whole, like if you Google like hoodded eyes, there's lots advice for like how to survive with hooded eyes. And these are things straight men would never know. But I did post a video once where my lips were clearly chapped. And I said in my caption, I'm aware that my lips are chapped. Because I knew that everyone was going to

comment on it. But this is my problem is sometimes my lips aren't chapped. but because they have like a whitishness to it, people think it's like ashy or something. And it's like, no, my lips are just pale. And they're huge. I actually, Chris, fun fact, before I knew Hannah, but I was following her, I was like, wow, this girl puts a lot of filler in her lips.

And I asked her about her lip filler when we met. She was like, I do not use filler. She just has very big lips. Very big pale lips, everyone's angry. Part of me is like, my first thing is when people tell me change something. I don't go, oh yeah, how can I fix it? I go, where are the pale lip girlies? Where is that community? Because they need to rise up. They're going to be in the Spotify comments. They need to rise up. And I want to represent you. I want to make you feel

less alone. Also, my last thing, it's been recently really blown up my comments. Oh my God. I've been wearing a skirt on stage. And I have very muscular legs, which causes my knees to have like some folds and people say I have Voldemort knees and I have manatee face knees and like it's really it's people people are making me feel like no one's ever had a knee that has a yeah but that's the problem with the internet is just so visual that everyone's like staring at your knees but then I wonder like I think if you look at all the tennis girls knees and they stand straight they all we all have that knee it's because we have muscle in our thighs that are going over the knee yeah

And like in some communities, it's a coveted thing to have muscular legs. Yeah. But people... So the wrinkly knee community and the pale-lipped community, they need to rise up. Rise up. My knees are folding. I rise up. My lips are invisible.

They're not chapped. Anyway, we need to get a deal with Vaseline. So what are you insecure about? What am I insecure about? What do people comment about you? Oh, just that you sound like both. That's the latest thing. But, like, when I was younger, my comedy career...

And you were like, I did not go to the Riyadh Comedy Festival. When I was younger in my comedy career, they'd be like, oh, he just goes on about Ireland. You know, like, oh, he's just... Is he still going on about about Ireland? My favorite one was somebody... Not that long ago, actually, was like, is he still going on about being an American in Ireland? I'm still me. I'm still an American in Ireland.

So it was like, this girl just talks about how she played tennis. She's from Brooklyn. She's half Italian. She has pale lips. She has strong legs. They'll say, recently on the Bill Burr front, because I like Bill Burr, but I'm really not inspired by him. Like, I haven't actually watched a ton of Bill Burr comedy.

Like, he is not my inspiration. I'm a product of, like, European comedy. And black comedians when I was a kid, honestly. Eddie Murphy, Richard Pryor, Chris Rock. Yeah. Those were the guys that I was obsessed with, particularly Eddie Murphy. I was obsessed with Cat Williams, but continue. Yeah.

Actually, I didn't get into Cat Williams until recent times because he was a little later. Anyway, on a video, you know, that I have. had a video go really viral where I'm having like a funny back and forth with this Chinese woman in the front row. I call her the best laugh forever. And me and this woman are having, it's like a murderous bit of crowdwork. And somebody was like, this guy's so like Bill Burr. And everyone in the comments is like, when is Bill were like going back and forth in Mandarin with the Chinese woman in the front row? You know? He's like, so then I have to, I have to try to work on my like my Mandarin, Bill Burr. Like, oh, what, what's that Saudi

Arabia? Do you have had no chair? I don't know. I can't. Bill Burr has a higher voice. It's just that you both have like a East Coast accent and you're older and you're cranky. Yeah. But also in fairness, like people have said to me outside of the comedy world, not even knowing I'm a comedian, including the day when I thought I was having a heart attack,

that this guy was like, oh, you remind me of Bill Burry. He didn't even know I was a comic. So whatever. What can I do? Yeah, well, it's not your fault. You stay true to you. Listen, everyone knows it's epigenetics. myself and Bill Burr's parents are products of the same trauma and sunburns well actually I for some reason I have a slightly sallow skin from my dad's side

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We have to do health insurance. Love you guys. What's buggy me right now is that you can't go on TikTok and watch a video and, like, have a good laugh. And it's real. It's all AI. and it always takes me like 30 minutes scrolling through the comments or sending it to someone and them responding and being like you're dumb this is AI for me to notice

and I fall for every time it's ridiculous now AI is getting to a point you know we're all like my dumb parents don't realize it's the AI now we're the dumb parents we can't tell it's AI very annoying Jake Paul did had these videos going around that looked very real of him like doing makeup and like dressing like a girl and it was obviously going viral because it was so jarring because he'd never done anything like that before and then it turns out he was behind the campaign for that AI company

and it's like they're just fucking with us I do love cat videos and now I'm just getting a bunch of cats getting arrested for doing things so it'd be like a cat in the driver's seat just sitting there and they're like you were going 60 on the highway and the cat's just like looking like a cat and I'm like how the cat getting the long? or like the cat getting rest

Anyway, there's just like It's a little too realistic I got a more general complaint about TikTok Which is it's just not fun anymore Yeah TikTok kind of sucks Well TikTok the algorithm is being too literal Where like

God forbid you watch one video Then you get bombarded Then you have to see seven videos About that thing Like I'll look at one thing about like A carpet And I'm like oh that's a nice carpet And then I'm like okay

I don't need 40 more carpets Yeah man I really have I've got a problem with TikTok these days. It's just, like, it used to be a fun app. Yeah. Well, it's because the algorithm loves rage bait, it loves drama, it loves controversy. So when you go on to relax, instead you're getting fed. And I'm not even saying, like, important drama that you need to know. Like, literally, I'm in the weeds with, like, some niche content creators said something about that

content creator's, you know, friend. And then I'm like, why did they date? And next time, I'm like, I know. There's so much drama, man. But I honestly, every time I go on TikTok, I feel like the world's going to end. Like, I feel like we're about to have a civil war. Every time I go on TikTok, that's the algorithm I'm in. Yeah. And then I have to get off. I literally get off TikTok.

So you're not getting as many hip mobility things? I get them too. I get them too. Actually, one thing I'll say about the algorithms, TikTok knows because suddenly I've been getting knee replacement, partial knee replacement videos. Oh, they think you're ready. They think I'm ready. Are you ready?

Well, I would rather not, but I'm getting... In the Spotify comment, should Dead does get a new replacement. Whatever you guys say, we'll go with. All right. Let's not do health insurance yet, because I want to try to do one lighthearted one before we go. Before we get into health insurance. All right, let's see. How about something that should be illegal?

Oh, yeah, that was actually from an earlier prompt, but this will be good. Let's give it a spin. Hey, Hannah and Des. Jeff saw Des in Syracuse had a great... time and he was wondering the youngest person in the audience, he was like 22. I was 27 and I enjoyed it very much. Anyway, a prompt I was thinking about is things that feel illegal. And something that just feels illegal is like seeing kids out in public. Like I used to go to the mall at 16 and places get dropped off by my parents. But when I see like 10 year olds in public, like

it feels illegal. Like it feels like they need a chaperone. But I used to do it. And I used to do that. So it's a little bit of a double standard. And I, of course, like, want them to have their freedom, but there's just something weird about being a child alone in public. Like, I feel like I need to watch over them. Um, anyway, you guys are awesome. Love you both. Yeah, well, I mean, that's the whole thing is that you feel like the need to watch over them. The only difference is now you think it's weird that they're there. Whereas back in the day, that was the norm. And everyone's like, oh, keep an eye on that kid. You never know when my kid's going to need to. So it used to be normal to feel like it takes a village to raise your kids.

And now it's like, what the fuck is that kid doing on their own? Yeah. And then part of you was like, I don't want my kids inside on their iPads go outside. And then they go outside. And you're like, oh, I'm really stressed out. Yeah. You're just not. I mean, they arrested some parent in Georgia last year.

For letting their kid go loose? Yeah, they found the kid coming back from the store on his own. And they arrested the mother for negligence. You didn't see that one? Now it was very rage-baity, but. Was it the Korean show or Japanese show, were kids doing adult, like, tasks? Oh, I didn't see that. It's like four-year-olds, like going to the grocery store or something, and they, like, film it.

We used to do that all time. My mother would be like, go to the grocery store and get me, Virginia Sun Lights 100s. And then I'd walk in, I'd be like, hey, can I get cigarette? You know, Virginia's some lights 100s to phone my mom, and then they give them to me, and then I walk back. That is so... That was the norm. There was so many levels of... It was the norm.

What if you were just trying to smoke it yourself? Well, that was not an issue back then. Could you've gotten beer? No, no, no. Oh, that's where they put the foot down. No, no, beer was totally different. Absolutely. But, yeah, you could go in and get cigarettes for your mom.

Yeah. I mean, when I was in fourth grade, we were allowed to go out to eat. We would, in school. So, like, the second year at fourth grade, you go across the street, go to Pino's Pizzeria. A dollar 50. I sound like my grandpa. A dollar 50, a slice and a Coke. A dollar 50.

Yeah, when I was in fourth grade, we were walking to school on our own. It was just totally normal. Yeah. And it's not that way now. you know, epigenetically, we'll see what it does to us. But it definitely, I would say, pros and cons. It is funny, though. I remember being a teenager and being annoyed.

I felt like no one trusted me or, like, whenever I went anywhere, they, like, wouldn't respect you. But then now when you see teenagers, you're like, you're about to pull a fast one on me. What are your kids trying to do? Yeah, because they are. It's funny because when you were a teenager, nobody trusted you. And now, still to this day, me and Hannah's mother are like,

I don't think she can do it. Like, she's like, will I drive into the city myself in the car? I call Aden. We could call the DMV for the last 10 minutes of this episode. What of that is? I talked on Giggly's going yesterday how I still haven't called the DMV. You haven't got your actual license. Chris was like, why don't we do it right now?

See what happens. Live on air, call the DMV. You said that? I just got hives. Like, I literally am sweating right now. I know, I knew you would. I can't do it. I can't do it.

Also, like, it's so funny. I love when people listen to my pods and I'm thinking for everyone who listens all the time and isn't sick of my voice somehow. But every now and then I get like some serious diagnoses from like actual therapists that are like, hey, you actually have depression and anxiety because you have ADHD.

Then I have some people being like, you don't have ADHD because you can focus like really well. You just, you have epigenetics. But that's my thing. Like sometimes I'm like, oh, it's my ADHD that I can't do these like basic tasks that I'm not interested in. And then people are like, oh, that's normal.

to not want to do things you're not interested in. Right. But it's hard to get to the diagnosis. Yeah. But here's the thing about so much stuff in life. Some stuff, you've got to be like, hey, you know, I just find that too difficult and I'm not going to be able to do it. And other things you go,

is the pain of not doing this greater than giving in and not doing it? That's the thing. It hasn't infect me at all because I haven't driven. And I use my passport. No, I know, but just some of the basic, you get severe anxiety on some of the basics of life. I'm definitely one of those people that's like I've been stressed out about something for two months that took four minutes to do. Yes. But some of, listen, we're not going to sort it out today. Some of that is down to procrastination. And actually there's some interesting books out there about procrastination as an addiction or procrastination as like a sort of an odd like problematic behavior.

So you may be setting yourself up and, you know, but, but again, not my. I'm addicted to lying down. Yeah. But what's that, what's that, though? A form of procrastination. No, no, it's just, I don't, by the way, these are just things I've noticed because I ended up, I kind of bumped into this guy. He's dead now, but he was, yeah. After you bumped in him, he worked in the gym like that.

You know, he was like a high level staff member in the Betty Ford Clinic. And he had written a book about procrastination as an addiction. And it's interesting because you keep ending up in this place where something actually ends up causing you such severe anxiety, even though it's really quite a basic thing. But it works out fine because most of the time myself or your mother or somebody else can resolve the issue. But in this situation, we can't. We can't call the DMV on your behalf. I also have that like whenever I call customer. service, they always make me feel like I said something wrong.

I don't like it. I know. But it's okay. It's okay. But let's not dwell on it because you've talked about this on Giga Squad too. Yeah, I've talked about it for years now. Yeah. So, Chris, let's go to health insurance.

Oh, great. What's bugging me right now is that health care is so goddamn expensive. I've been on a leave of absence for my work. Long story short, my health insurance got cut. Long story short, I need to find health insurance. $817 a month for just myself. Are you kidding me? I have a family of four.

That's over $3,000 a month they want from me. What? Okay. That's what's bugging me. Bye. That's fucking crazy. Amen, bro. Yeah.

Do you know what I heard also? I'm going to start drama, but I mean, these hospitals, these doctors, they are a business. and the doctors are like sometimes like you know how police are like we have to get a certain number of tickets doctors have to do like a certain number of tests and scans and surgeries and like you're just a like money number when you walk in and these doctors are just they have pressure to make as much money as they can offer you I mean that's not a system that's I mean I don't know about the the facts are not of that specific thing but one thing that is a 100% a fact is that part of the issue this very complicated American issue of health insurance

part of the issue is the hospital's charging way too much money for it like there's just no need for the cost that they're claiming yeah around these things and like imagine it's you're also in the most vulnerable place like you're going there clearly because of your health and then they're doing tests that you don't necessarily always need but then if you don't do them you feel like you might put yourself at risk um but my question is for somewhere like ireland who has free health insurance well it's not free it's it's a but it's they have a a public health system. A public health system. They have a public private, though. Do you think because they're not trying to, like, make as much money off people that they're doing a better

job or a worse job? Well, that's the thing, you know, that's the whole argument against, you know, public health is that, oh, you end up not incentivizing the doctors as much and you end up with less. I would argue the doctors aren't trying to pull one over on you. Well, listen, because the thing is that you end up in an argument about something that may and may not be true about doctors trying to pull one over on you. So, like, ignore all that. Yeah. But. But, But here's the thing I think about it, right? The American health care system is so damn complicated. I've needed American health insurance now for a decade,

and it's taken me a decade to fucking figure it out. And this year, I was paying $1,200 on my own, $1,200 a month because I was like, you know what, I'm going to overpay to get good insurance, and it still sucked, $1,200 a month, because if you're self-employed, you can only get health insurance through the Affordable Care Act, which is fucking insane, right?

And this is not a political thing, but that's going to get even more expensive, Now, I think she's responding to the fact that she probably found out what 2026 is going to be. And it's just, to me, it is just bonkers that it's that expensive. So here's my argument, because when they like to say socialized medicine, you know, and like the question you asked me is actually one of the big arguments against, like, a single-payer health care system, which is, you know, Bernie's big thing, is, well, you'll end up with worse care because the doctors won't make as much money. I want to be able to get the best doctor, right?

But you can only get if you work for a company in America, that's the problem, right? To actually get the best doctors, you need to work for a company that has a good health care plan, which means you're incentivized to get a job just for health care. There was another message I took it out, but a woman literally got married early. They're having a fancy wedding in Italy, but they got married early on the down low months before for health insurance, which she was upset about because she felt like her own wedding wasn't going to be actually as special. Right. So the whole thing about socialized medicine being socialism, it's the antithesis of that because if you were in a free market where you could be an entrepreneur and do whatever you wanted, you would not have to worry about, oh, wait a minute. If I go and leave this job, I might fuck myself with health insurance. So it's actually the opposite of entrepreneurial. It ties people to shitty jobs because the fear of leaving that job. Keeps you in the system. Keeps you in the system. So it's actually, I think it's the opposite of capitalism.

It suppresses you under the man. Yeah, it's literally a system of, it's the most insane system. I mean, everywhere else in the world, people just cannot understand how they've, and the crazy thing is that Obamacare was supposed to be a fix, but Obamacare was like a very poor fix. And instead of like reforming Obamacare or making it better, it's just been under attack since. And people have grown reliant on it, so people don't want Obamacare to get screwed. But at the same time, it's also a shit system. And I think it's relevant because, like, some people, like, we've been podcasting since I was, you know, in my early 20s and a lot of people in listening.

And some people still listening are in their early 20s. But the girls have hit 26, a lot of them. Yeah. And they're all like, wait, what the fuck is going on? That happened to me. But here's the thing is, we can't buy, no matter how well you or I do in our careers, it is not possible for us to overpay for good health insurance. It is not possible for me as a single man to call up Bruce Clarks, Bruce Shield, and go, hey, I want to, I want to

overpay. I've got a lot of money. I want to overpay and get some decent health insurance. Not possible. Yeah, that's crazy. It's insane. That's crazy. And that's why Venus Williams went viral. Yeah. Because she needs that, and she's Venus fucking Williams. And she's playing on the pro tour so that she can stay on the WTA's health insurance. Actually, Venus, that's the perfect example. Bernie Sanders should just be showing, and I'm not saying I'm a Bernie guy.

I mean, I do like Bernie, but anyway, the Venus, they should just show that video and be like, you could be the top five female tennis player of all time, right, and have made gazillions of dollars. Your sister is married to one of the most richest billionaires in tech, and they can't use all that power to get decent health insurance. It's better for her on her killer, her knees are dying. She's out there trying to stay alive on the tennis court just for health insurance. That's insane. battles with a lot of like autoimmune stuff and she needs it so it's it's upsetting so that so i'm

i am with you and this is going to be a big issue it's nothing to do with the government shutdown but all this stuff is going to really come to the floor because they're listen they've been battling against obamacare but the problem is they never came up i would absolutely adore a a new solution other than obamacare but you actually have to have one it i don't get what if they keep going after the ACA? What then? What then? That's what I don't understand. There's no jokes. What do you think, Chris? I have to do the same thing, man. I'm soft before.

You have to buy in the ACA, right? And it sucks. You know, I didn't know what HMOs were, PPO's. I still don't. I have to fucking learn all that shit. I have it and I still don't. But the thing is that on the ACA in New York, you cannot, you can only get an HMO, which means that you have to go in network and the networks are fucking minuscule. And then you need to get a fucking new college degree on how to fuck do it. I find a doctor that's in my network.

And then you, you know, you find one that's supposedly in your network. Then you call them and they're like, oh, no, he actually doesn't take that insurance. But we have another, right? Then you finally get a doctor. Then they fucking send you an insanely large bill. Then you have to fight that bill. Then you have to be like, hey, I thought you were in network. And then they're like, oh, right.

And then back and forth. And then finally it turns out, oh, oh, you only owe us $30. It's like, oh, you just wanted me to fucking pay. You just wanted me to accidentally. See, how is that not illegal for them to send these crazy bills? You guys, apparently. Apparently, apparently what I've learned is whenever you get a big bill to, like, call and question it. You got to question it.

Yo, man, it's insane. Which, like, that should not, again, as you guys know, I don't want to call anyone ever. So they're making money off me. Oh, I'll give you an example. Right when Hannah first, when we first met, I know it's getting very serious now, but look, health insurance, a serious issue. That's been bugging me lately. Use your platform, babe. Yeah, and I didn't bring it up.

Dialer brought it up, but it did flag in my brain. Hannah had to get her appendix out very early on in our relationship. She goes... He, like, hated girls with appendixes. Please remove that. If you want this to be serious, you're grossing me out with your appendix.

So I got surgery for him. And during the pandemic, I sat in the parking lot all night outside Southampton Hospital waiting to, because you weren't allowed in the hospital. And so, long story short, she had the ACA plan that she had, coincidentally of at the time,

Hannah and I independently were on the same plan, right? I did not understand health insurance as much then. She got an insane bill from Southampton Hospital, even though it was emergency service, right? Not in network, but emergency service covered on an HMO. She gets this insane bill, which comes in under the, so I just thought, oh, that's because you're whatever, your max is this much. I just assumed that was the case, right? And so you just paid it and we forgot about it. And then years later, I thought I was having a heart attack, separate incident to the one that Hannah talks about on her Netflix special. this was the time where I literally just had to fart.

Anyway, I got taken to Riverhead Pekonic Pay Medical Center and I start getting these fucking huge bills, right? And I called them, I'm like, hey, why are you sending me this huge bill? And they were like, well, you didn't give health insurance. I said, oh, I did give health insurance. In fact, I filled out numerous forms. I know. Why are you making it fill out so many forms?

We didn't get it. So then I give the health insurance. Next thing, I get a bill back, which is like peanuts compared to what they were trying to charge me, right? Then I figure I've dealt with. with it, right? And then for a year, I keep getting the fucking, another bill for another like three and a half G, right? So eventually, I'm

like, I fucking paid this. Why they still? So I call and they were like, oh, no, this is for the hospital fee. That was the consultant fee that you paid. So I was like, oh, well, I said, how come I hasn't gone through my insurance? I said, oh, well, you didn't give your insurance. I was like, motherfucker, I got to do this again. And I did it again. And then I ended up on like 100 bucks from three and a half

G. And what if I didn't know to fight? So anyway, that's my hospital rent. It's fucking insane. It's crazy. So I say that single-payer health care, right, complicated I know, but it's actually capitalism because it gives people the freedom to chase their dreams without worrying about losing their health care. And trust me, I'm from Queens. Do you know how many guys I know that have suffered through jobs they hate because of health care?

It's a lot. It's a lot. So, anyway, Chris, let's do one light, a harder one to finish, please. Let's see, what do we got here? Crazy company. culture. Hi, Hannah and Des. What's bothering me lately is my idiot boss, Aaron. Um, she names him. Quarterly coaching. And I got a coaching for complimenting my coworker. And the reason that's an issue is because that I could have insinuated that the other co-workers are not good. And it's just so

frustrating because he perpetuates this insanely toxic company culture and complains that nobody on the team talks at all. And it's like, duh, you fucking idiot. If I compliment my coworker, I'm going to get coached. And it's like, what world do we live in where you have to be so narcissistic that you think a compliment to others is by default and insult to you? And that's what's bugging me. I hope you guys are doing lovely and well. enjoy your day we love you I love us

it was very personal that was really getting off of your challenge but this is the thing the whole coaching thing that he's made up is insane yeah like I love when there's like a company and they like put names on things

that enables them to like do things like the whole month you're sweating by the way after that rant no I've been sweating it's hot in here you can't have the AC on right so yeah it kind of reminds me of um way word that show where there's therapy and they go in and it's like say everything you hate about

each other but we're calling it coaching or something yeah that was what was yeah i can't remember the word but it's funny that she ended up saying you no one talks and gets mad at us for not to not talking and that's what happens when people are scared and like if if you feel like everything you do is going to get dissected like then you're just going to clam up relationships work friendships You got to get out of that company I mean Unless there's good health insurance Maybe Aaron's good with the health insurance

Got the HMOs, the PBOs Yeah, you lost a couple people on that But yeah The company culture is crazy Because there's actually like someone Who can fire you So like you walk in every day And you like all have to like

You have to follow You have to follow you have to suck up You have to laugh at their bad jokes and when they, I never forget the feeling of like making a little mistake or like feeling like I didn't do well in front of them or like that stuff used to like drive me insane or like you have that one interaction with them and it like kind of goes badly and then like you're like I'm going to get fired like for the rest of the week. But what she's saying almost feels like one of those Fox News headlines where like she got in

trouble for complimenting somebody and they said but if you compliment her other people might think that they're you know so i don't i don't know i don't know if that's what was going on it it's definitely um i it's a it seems like he does this in all forms yeah this is just part of his control mechanism yeah but it's also some people i do notice sometimes in companies when there's like too many people that want to feel like they're doing their job will sometimes just say stuff that's like unnecessary yeah they're just looking for it's just to feel like they're doing their job when it actually complicates or hurts people's feelings.

Like sometimes, like, I'm in a creative field and, like, sometimes people will give notes and I'm just like, is that necessary? Oh, yeah. So, you ever see, have you ever been in one of these situations? Like, like, so more like community, voluntary stuff. And somebody be like, well, so people can just go online to get the information or to sign up.

And then somebody be like, what about the people who don't have access to the internet? And you're like, okay, I understand that that might be one or two people. But you know, that amount of people is consistently diminishing. And I know that you want to feel like you matter. But fuck off. And, of course, then you do that. And this is why you don't do a lot of community things.

You're the asshole. You're the assholes. This is why you're a solo stand-up comedian. I mean, I get it. I get it. But a very small group, very small group. you know they have access to anything almost everywhere now

can you imagine if this was a dude that complimented someone like that would be a way different story do you think so we'd be suss about the compliment what the compliment was he just said suss no suss is no suss is I'm down with suss

I just making sure you knew what's going on sus has been around longer than you think just so you know you're saying if if she was a guy and he complimented someone that the guy might be like Yeah, he was on some weird shit Oh, that he was being creepy

Yeah Oh, yeah Oh, the dude was basically Bring it up to try to fuck with her No, I'm saying if she If the girl that called in Was a dude Making compliments

We would have looked at that way I feel like What was the compliment? Oh, really? Chris is red-pilled Wow, he just Get him away from Giggly Squad for two seconds Get him away from Giggly Squad

For two seconds It was the opposite. He goes, He was complimenting her ass, and he should be allowed to. Compromints are so funny. Wait, you know what it is. This goes back to a previous episode where she's got to be like that dad, and she has to compliment every single person and say,

you're my favorite employee. Yeah. That's what you got to do. Yeah, so just, but what happens is you end up doing nothing. You get... But again, this does not to be all, like, back in the day, but, like, if she compliments someone that did a really good job and it makes someone else feel inferior, Yeah, it's like, step up.

No, it's good. Step it up. Because then you see what you want to do. Yeah. And you can't fucking... Because then it's like... But the whole thing is that like, it's impossible to know what the actual culture is in this company

because on one side, you could get all like, you know, like people just need to, like, you know, you could get all like merit. It's meritocracy, you know? But then on the flip side, you know, you could be like, you know, thinking that there's something else going on. I could also argue to him back and be like, well, it's bad for the culture that you're... You're criticizing me when I'm trying to bring positivity. Yeah, well, that's the whole thing.

I mean, that's probably the most important point is like, well, what about the fact that the boss is just fucking making people feel bad about... For other people trying to make people feel good? Yeah, like innocuous shit. I would... But this is a problem. It's just, yeah, people just check out. You start being like, I'm not...

Yeah. I don't understand this mind game, so I'm just not going to be involved. Unless the health insurance is amazing. I say get out of the company. That's what I say. Yeah, and all comes back to that. You guys, thank you for calling in today. on Burner phone.

Very last minute, by the way. We threw out the rant thing very late. So thank you for quick... We made it happen. Quick responses. I'm going to be in Wisconsin, Green Bay, and Madison, this upcoming week. So get your tickets. And we added a lot more dates.

So go to Hanna Burner.com. Check them out. I have all my dates on my website. I don't have any American shows until December, but I'm in Ireland in November. And it'll be my first shows as a 50-year-old man. Wow. Yeah, so come check that out. Desbishop.net.

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