Berner Phone - Berner Phone #14: Annoying Generational Differences

Episode Date: November 9, 2023

This week we’re working through some intergenerational conflict. Gen Z  can’t stand how older people text, rake leaves, and use social media. Millennials and Gen X are bothered by ever-changing l...ingo and TikTok. And everyone is mad that people yell on the phone in public places.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, it's Hannah Burner and Des Bishop. Thanks for calling the burner phone. If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast. What's up, my little dialers? You get to experience our relationship as we are long distance for, is this a third week? in a row? I think this is the, this is our third remote maybe,
Starting point is 00:00:35 yeah, third remote episode. No, fourth, this is our fourth. Really? So you guys have realized that we never see each other and that's the strength that makes a marriage last. But we're going to see each other soon.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Except that I was supposed to be back on Tuesday. He was. And we've had a health scare over here in Dublin. So, we're not going to get too dramatic but I got an MRI just on my stupid shoulder for like you know just literally everything's easier to do in Ireland scan wise so while I was here I was like oh I'll get an MRI of some shoulder pain and then something else showed up in my stupid MRI
Starting point is 00:01:14 and there's not any major cause for concern but enough that I'm getting further scans so dialers don't don't worry Hannah still wants you to think that it's a good idea to date an older man but uh this is the reality of being with a boomer this is not a i'm not a boomer speaking of boomers we wanted to do this episode i love how i just like went on to the next thing but yes we're sending love to does in ireland as he gets his scans um but yeah you first you try to go on to the next thing then you try to then you now it sounds like dramatic well i don't know how dramatic you want to get i don't do don't do my thinking you know it's it's fine it is what it is but speaking of boomers and my boomer husband we wanted to talk about different generations because does and i get asked
Starting point is 00:02:10 about it a lot obviously we're different generations does gets along with my parents really well because they talk about the 80s together um i'm hardcore millennial but i identify as gen z um i don't pass as Gen Z, but I do wear my hair in a middle part. It's a whole thing. But generations are fascinating to talk about right now. And I feel like more than ever because of TikTok and podcasts, multiple generations are consuming the same media. And it's kind of like crazy times. Hey, I have to say that I'm with you on everything you said, except for the last part. actually now there's a chance
Starting point is 00:02:48 that you can actually stay with your generation a lot more in the past there was only the television and the radio so actually the multiple generations
Starting point is 00:02:57 used to consume the same media more now there's actually less of a chance now because of algorithms everyone has their bubbles however if you're like me and you love Gen Z stuff
Starting point is 00:03:07 I got on the Gen Z algorithm and I fully consumed that stuff and you're still on chiropractor videos which is totally fine. But Hannah, you're not the first person to not accept their age and identify with the younger generation.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Which, you know, that's not a new thing. Like, it's great, it's great that you're keeping down with the youth. Yeah, I like to stay hip, as I call it. I like to the kids, they keep me young. But I also do want to acknowledge that I'm fully embracing getting older and I can't wait to be older and just like respect. and like when I say I'm tired, people just listen to you and they leave you alone. Yeah, well, if you listen to these messages coming through, you'll find that the older people are not being respected.
Starting point is 00:03:58 But the older people are also not respecting the young. In fact, I'm quite surprised the animosity that, the animosity that's out there for the different generations. Was it a war zone in Brunnerphone? There's a war going on outside. No man is safe from. You can run, but you can't hide forever. I mean, I was shook. I was shook.
Starting point is 00:04:17 Babe, I love when you break into song. Mob deep. But anyway, I was, you know, that's why I think it's a good topic because there's a, actually, I'll tell you what I think. I think that, like, probably for the first time since, like, the hippie era, there's, there's more awareness of the different generations now than there has been since then. and there's a lot of name-calling, accusations, sweeping generalizations that are being sort of, you know, lobbed across no man's land at the different generations. And one thing you do learn as you get older is, like,
Starting point is 00:04:58 I remember when everyone was shitting on millennials. They were like, millennials are lazy, and, you know, millennials don't have jobs, and they don't know how to take care of themselves, and everyone hated millennials. And then a younger generation came. and then everyone started hating on them and you realize like, oh, like the Gen Zs are going to be the old ones eventually.
Starting point is 00:05:18 So everyone, you know, gets their come around. Is that a saying? Yeah, I mean, they're comeuppins? They're comeuppins. Yeah, that's, oh, I love saying comeuppens. And the one thing that I kept feeling throughout this is like, you know, there's so many different dynamics at play. But the one thing that the older, the old you get,
Starting point is 00:05:39 the one thing you have over a younger, generation and I'm not always saying it's a positive but there's just they they can't know what it's like to be older you know and when I was younger and people would say that I would think like that that that was like a cop out for them not you know embracing something new but on the flip side now that I'm older the one thing that you can't know when you're younger is what it's like to get older true you know and that is that is an advantage I think wisdom wise but obviously it's a disadvantage in terms of being set in your ways, which is very much a theme throughout the messages.
Starting point is 00:06:15 Yeah, and you don't realize how wise older people are until you get older and you're like, wow, I was fucking stupid back then. But then also... That's a joke. I was saying on stage
Starting point is 00:06:26 is one of the things I hate most about being older is realizing how full of shit I was. Yeah. Actually, I don't use the past tense. I say realize how full of shit I am, you know? Back in the day,
Starting point is 00:06:37 you know what I think happens sometimes? I'm going to keep this personal for me. my my my bullshit meter goes off in real time these days so actually i can actually be i can hear the bullshit coming out of my mouth now in real time whereas i i couldn't hear it coming out of my i i actually thought that i wasn't full of shit and it would just fly out oh and now you're like oh i'm just talking shit to talk shit i just i'm become aware of it and i can't can't do it, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Or it gets edited out of the podcast. No, but you're right. Like, you don't want to deal with the fake stuff and you only have enough energy to keep it real. But I feel like sometimes the older generation lies to the younger generation. Like, I guess it's not a lie, but sometimes I remember older generation would be like, oh, you're in college, best years of your life. That was not the best years of my life.
Starting point is 00:07:36 I remember being like, this is horrible. Why is everyone, if this is the best of years, like, I really am scared of what's to come. or they'll be like, I tell people 30s is the best years of your life. Ooh, I can't wait. Especially in the modern era. What about the year that you met me? Oh, yeah, great year.
Starting point is 00:07:52 Global pandemic, thousands of people dying. Couldn't leave your house. A lot of dogs that got adopted and then returned. Great year. Great year. God, we're so romantic. But, no, no, the, you know, just to conclude because I feel like I didn't articulate it well, when I say, realize how full of shit I am, I basically, I miss the naivety of youth and I miss the certainty
Starting point is 00:08:25 of youth. You know, I just, things were just more black and white when I was younger. I think, and I think it's just a natural thing. I think it's like some survival technique. You have to find your place in the world so you don't have time to be overly analytical of what you feel and what you think. and I miss that. But I also think the black and white
Starting point is 00:08:45 when you're young, like when something bad would happen, you'd literally be like, this is the end. And it would be like you got a bad, you know, score on a test or like you're going through a breakup. You're like this,
Starting point is 00:08:55 it was so scary. When you're older, so many shitty things have happened that like you don't even get affected by it anymore, which is like so powerful because you're like, what is this world going to throw up me that I haven't already seen
Starting point is 00:09:06 or feel prepared to handle? So I like that. Because when I was younger, I was always scared like, this is it this is when i can't get back this is how it all ends for me and it's like your friend didn't text you back let's be relevant should we get into it i thought i had cancer all morning but anyway and you know i still do but anyway uh let's let's let's carry on let's get into it people are like oh i can't wait to listen to burner phone to relax for an hour and get
Starting point is 00:09:36 away from my problems i'm not gonna lie yeah i'm not gonna lie yeah i'm not gonna bullshit in anymore I'm 48. I'm turning 48. I didn't stay in Ireland because it's more convenient to get scans. I stayed in Ireland because the doctor said you've got to change your flight because they're worried. I do have to say, babe, since you've been gone, I've had time because it is your birthday coming up. I've had time to prepare for your birthday. My Scorpio King.
Starting point is 00:10:02 No pressure. This could be my last birthday, so no pressure. Oh, my God. And guys, please don't send me messages. feeling bad for me because, like, he does have good assets. So I'll be fine. Yeah. Since you've been gone. Come on. Do you want to get into it? Let's get into it. Oh, let's go right into it. Here we go. Hey, Hannah and Des. Love your show. I listen to you every time I'm out for a walk with my baby. It keeps me sane. I'm laughing in the street. So probably look insane to anyone who sees me.
Starting point is 00:10:35 Anyway, what really bothers me about another generation is the way they text. So they either use, like, way too much capitalization in a sentence, too many periods, like all proper punctuation. I just think, are you mad at me? Or even when they use the thumbs up, I just think that they're, like, text illiterate, whether it's on Facebook, an Instagram comment, texting, like, whatever it is. It just, like, it doesn't land well. and the generations of the boomers and, like, my husband, who is 40, just need to get with it.
Starting point is 00:11:16 No offense. Des, you're great. Thank you. Did she say, Des, you're great at the end? Yeah, she said, no offense, Des, you're great. This is the thing. It is like a different kind of language of communication. if you were raised like writing script in catholic school and suddenly people are texting it's
Starting point is 00:11:41 different but no one texts more savage than a mom like my mom is the sweetest angel could not love me or be more caring but when i text with her i'll send her a whole message and she'll write k and she doesn't realize that that means i don't give a fuck where she thinks it's like i received it yes but when you or you've wrote okay period before and i'm like okay snippy oh okay somebody who doesn't like punctuation no but if you put a period that is like you're you're wanting to fight like that's violence but if you put it if you don't put a period that's uh not a complete I will write how I want people to hear it. You know, like if I want people to hear me talking fast, I put it no punctuation.
Starting point is 00:12:40 If it's a serious, then I put punctuation. If I'm yelling, I do caps. There's a way to have nuances of your tone because it's hard to capture tone and text. Yeah, except that there was a whole system that was created long ago, centuries ago. If you wanted to create exclamation, we had an exclamation mark. if you wanted people to know that the sentence was over then you had a period
Starting point is 00:13:05 if you wanted to know it was a question you had a question you know and now now we have emojis there's there's there's plenty out there to express without you know ripping on proper punctuation
Starting point is 00:13:18 but I also understand that these are you know these are the boomer vibes but it is literally just like you're saying that the way that people were trained before is no longer relevant but it's actually just you guys now have a new way of communicating
Starting point is 00:13:33 which clashes with the old way of communicating. True. Because I don't see grammar and punctuation as an attack. And it's so funny because you will send me period sometimes and at first I go, and then I go, he doesn't know. He doesn't know.
Starting point is 00:13:52 No, no. You don't use them because you're actually making a sentence construction mistake. Okay, if you send me something annoying and I respond okay, a Y, period, does that not give you any tone? No, I don't, punctuation, I don't have any emotional connection to punctuation other than what punctuation was intended for. Okay, so how would you, this is the whole thing, how would you text and say, okay? Uh, I wouldn't say, okay. I would, if I needed to express something, I would express it directly, like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:14:36 Question mark. WTF, question mark. Oh, God. But I get it. I mean, it's a silly thing. But honestly, that is, it's one of the great culture. It's one of the great generational clashes. Because obviously, when you've lived more of your life,
Starting point is 00:14:55 and don't forget that we're also the generation that, you know, started texting on the original gsm technology phones so it was like you know what are those called not tech nine what was it called well there was yeah the abcd there was very they did they did all different brands of phones okay but Nokia was the most popular one there was a name for t9 t9 texting is what they called it in america oh right yes so so you know the tap to a bc could you go fast oh it was incredible I mean, literally, I was like a stenographer in a fucking, in a courtroom, you know? So, you know, um... Dude, imagine trying to get in a fight with your boyfriend during T9.
Starting point is 00:15:40 That was like, you'd burn your thumb off. Yeah, no, I mean, I, imagine? I mean, I've been there. So, so obviously, but honestly, a lot of tech speak comes from that era where suddenly things started getting shortened. Yeah. you know because people were getting carpal tunnel from just trying to explain themselves yeah but that was the beginning of like you know like k yeah yeah you know that was the beginning of wtf all that's the omg omg comes from 29 the origin story what's crazy now though ohmg the origin
Starting point is 00:16:16 story i don't work in a corporate company obviously so when i email people i'll find myself when I'm emailing like maybe people on like that work with me I will email them with like text speak so I'll be like LOL that's hilarious like I will send that over email or like people do slack now with like companies where like it's all becoming like text typing unless you have to write like an article yeah I mean language evolved which I'm totally fine with but here's the thing that because I don't mind any of the modern communication like I am not one of these people who complains at all like your way of communicating to me in text doesn't like it none of it baffles me I totally embrace it however it it baffles me how much the actual centuries old
Starting point is 00:17:13 way of communicating in like complete sentences can be so misconstrued by the younger generation It is funny when an older generation... Sincerely, sincerely, your loving husband does. I was about to say what your older generation text to you and then writes like grandpa underneath. And it's like, grandpa, I know this is coming from your phone. My grandpa would leave me voice messages and be like, hey, this is grandpa calling. So it is, you know, that you're outgrowing stuff. You know, and this is bad to say on a podcast that relies on voice messaging, but like, why are people still leaving voice messages?
Starting point is 00:17:49 Like, honestly, the only people that are still leaving voice messages are like doctors or older people. Voice mails are different than voice memos. So Paige and I send a lot of voice memos. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about leaving a voice mail. A voicemail. Yeah. No, yeah, voicemails are crazy.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Call the police. Again, you're choosing violence. And if you leave me a voicemail, I'll never click it. leave a message after the tone is what we used to say yeah and you go peep i i didn't know that it just became a voicemail oh maybe it's just in america we call it voicemail oh right okay also it's funny how like people some people can't even like read script the gen z's oh yeah cursive i think you know i think script is is a new york thing i think really yeah i think that came up when we were chatting with your mother one day. Just in case talking cursive, like joined writing. But I feel like people can
Starting point is 00:18:55 figure it out. Like no one sees script and it's like, what is that, you know, different language? It's like you can, it's just connected letters. Can you write it? Can you remember? Yeah, I can write. I can write, but I don't write fast. And I get pretty sloppy. You know, because over here, I was helping out my friend and his kids and it's funny like I was I seen his daughter's homework and she was doing some like practicing stuff and I was just like wow all those wasted years of fucking you know learning how to write like loopy Fs and fucking odd geez and then what a waste yeah and then also like even getting your obviously you have to know how to spell but how nowadays it's like everything is auto corrected everything grammarly is the thing invented that just checks all your grammar all the time
Starting point is 00:19:43 It's, you don't even know how to write, ever. I know. It'll be interesting if AI will bring grammar back because there's been a shift away from grammar. What's next? That was a good one. I like that one. I was sticking up for punctuation there.
Starting point is 00:19:59 I don't really care, but I do enjoy it. We just like taking hot takes. Hey, hey, hey, there's nothing to say on this one. Can I just drop this on you really quick? Because I've been dying to play it. I'm going to die and play it for you. What bothers me about some older generation is that they would always tell us
Starting point is 00:20:15 oh you have to treat your elders with respect not everyone deserves respect my grandma betty is a cunt it's it's it's it just made me laugh really hard I had to share it the little dialers are so fucking funny they deliver every time
Starting point is 00:20:38 I don't know what this podcast thinks about sea bombs No, the dialers love a C-bomb. Shout out to Betty, you know, put in the cunt in Grandma. Yeah, all right. Let's, it's not all going to be Gen Z's going at the boomers, but I think this one, I think this one's going to resonate a lot with your younger listeners. Hey, Anna, he does.
Starting point is 00:21:04 I would say my biggest gripe with the older generations of the current moment is that they think that just because we're younger than them, that we're tech support. big do i look like steve jobs i did not invent it why are you asking me like i don't know how to do it either honey don't put it across my desk don't waste my time that is so funny i mean that that's a quick one that came in a lot you are a tech support yeah there was a lot of people like you know why are you calling me about your passwords like i didn't create your passwords my nana is so funny because she needs us to visit her to like just, you know, literally B-Tex support. She's like, I broke my computer.
Starting point is 00:21:48 My phone, the storage isn't working. I lost something in my camera and I can't get into my email. And I'm like, I was just here two days ago. What possibly happened? But I also have empathy, you know. I have empathy for that generation. No, totally. I mean, it's kind of like one of those like, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:07 this is like one of those complaints that's like, not really a complaint. Yeah. But my thing was like, I think my mother had like my email as like her recovery email, you know? And every now and then suddenly I'd get like six, seven emails like my mother constantly like fucking, she'd obviously reset her password by accident.
Starting point is 00:22:25 She was in a total jam, you know? And then I'd call. I'd be like, Ma! She'd be like, oh, Desmond! And her thing, her thing was,
Starting point is 00:22:35 you know, she was obsessed with Amazon in her later years. And the printer, the printer was always fucking breaking on her. And she would call me in like the greatest panic because she couldn't print her return labels. I think she enjoyed returning as much as actually getting. She was big on the returning. And then she'd be like, Desmond, I don't know how to work the printer. It's like, and that's like, I'm even less tech support.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Like what I'm not like a, I don't work for Xerox. Well, it gets to a point once you're talking about printers, that's over Gen Z millennials heads. We don't deal with anything with paper. You got to talk to my dad. My dad can work a printer. Yeah, but printers are still way more relevant than I was expecting to be at this juncture in our lives. They shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:23:22 It's because of the return labels. It's literally because of the return labels. And you know why they keep it, I think, because deep down these companies don't want you to be able to return it so they make it complicated, like voting registration. I know, but here's the question, though, like in seriousness,
Starting point is 00:23:38 going to print these QR like how else are you going to get the QR code on your on your box how are you going to get the QR code on there they definitely is a way to do it without paper um is is there or maybe you write something i don't know i'm not a woman in stem i thought that was your whole brand that you're a woman in stem yet we we say we're women in stem but not real stem let's go for something critical down We haven't gone down yet. Let's go for something critical from the older to the younger. Ooh.
Starting point is 00:24:15 Hi, Hannah and Des, Taylor here. I am a giggler, dialer, summer houser, deviler, all of the above. Love you guys. Love the pod. So I fall in between being a Gen Z and a millennial. And something that really bothers me about Gen Z is the need to rebrand everything. Like, why are we getting blueberry cupcake nails when, you're really just getting a baby blue? Why are we saying strawberry makeup when you've just done a
Starting point is 00:24:46 lot of blush and a pink lip? You know, why are we being confusing? Let's just call it what it is. I don't have time to learn all of the new lingo and stuff when I'm just trying to go get my nails done or, you know, pick a new makeup trend. So that's definitely something that bothers me about Gen Z. And I feel like a lot of people will agree. It's just confusing for absolutely no reason. so thanks guys let me know what you think i love that babe i do have to say it's giving starbucks being like it's called grande and you're like i want a medium and they're like do you want a grande and you're like you made this up for marketing purposes i'm not an idiot i just want medium okay yes i i i you're really taking me back to uh how controversial the grande
Starting point is 00:25:34 thing was back in the venti yeah yeah people would go up and just be like give me a medium and they're like say grande bitch and they're like no and then they're like i'm spelling your name wrong a tall was the tall was actually the small one right yeah my yeah that's the thing i get confused so i'll panic like every now and then i'll panic at starbucks and i'll be like venty and then they'll give me like the biggest one and i'm like oh i thought the tall was the big one fuck and you're all so grumpy because you haven't had your coffee so it's honestly it's the patriarchy. You know, you know, I mean, it's definitely not the patriarchy. But, you know, it's my enemies trying to get me. Every older generation ends up out of touch with
Starting point is 00:26:16 the current lingo. The current lingo changes faster than it used to. But I remember being like very young and like thinking it was ridiculous that my dad didn't know certain words. I can't like, off the top of my head, I can't remember. But just like, you know, and that's, that's part of what's being young though part of what being young is like feeling a sense of like this is our thing you know yeah but she's also speaking about this thing that they're doing specifically with like makeup and nails and stuff instead of being like you know white nails they're like glazed pearl like donut nails or like yeah strawberry makeup like so they're doing these branding things and i think it's TikTok and all the beauty and stuff.
Starting point is 00:27:00 Yeah, it's funny how these words become so solid straight away. However, in terms of like ridiculous color, you know, names for colors, I mean, has anyone ever painted their house? Has anyone ever gone and like looked at like the paint color chart? There's some pretty fucking ridiculous names on some of those colors. Yeah. Like this is, this is beige, bro. Yeah, a straight man definitely did not come up with the colors for that.
Starting point is 00:27:26 But, but yeah, with Mark. to get people to buy more stuff, it's like the same lipstick color or slightly different shades will have all these different names. You're like, well, I have to get the raspberry and the raspberry plum and the dark raspberry plum pink. And it's like they're all very similar. Then mauve. That's all the same thing. Or very nuancedly different. So look, capitalism wins again. It's capitalism winning again. I'm actually trying to consume less because I find this like excitement when I'm like, ooh, I'm going to buy this new exciting thing. And then when you actually have it, you feel a weight on you because it's just like,
Starting point is 00:28:04 I don't need this. So anyway, I'm working on that. That's my own inner turmoil. Hey, uh, I have to out myself here as being out of touch. I've, I've accepted the way the Gen Z is used chill now. They're very fond of the word chill, but in a sort of a Gen Z way. So, so I'm, I'm fine with that, you know. That's chill, as far as I'm concerned.
Starting point is 00:28:27 But I have not 100% got my head around mid. Yeah, I feel like mid. Like my friends don't say mid. It's more like an online thing. But mid is like the worst thing you could say to someone. Yeah. So where did that come from? It's basically like, if a guy goes to your page and calls you ugly,
Starting point is 00:28:51 you're like, okay, you're a fucking hater. But if he's like, yeah, she's mid. It means, like, she's just, like, so average and, like, not interesting to look at kind of thing. Like, it's just blot. Like, it's forgettable, which is, like, harder than if someone's, like, you're mad ugly. Because if someone calls you ugly, you're like, you're not my type. But if someone calls you mid, it just means, like, I wouldn't even see you in a crowd. Our Gen Z correspondent just walked in.
Starting point is 00:29:19 Wait, does she want to find mid? Without, without knowing what we're talking about, Bella. define define mid oh mid is like when something's like meh right don't don't don't don't come out with i need confidence on this you're a jenzy correspondent yeah something's mid it's like it's not that great okay thank you yeah yeah but like even the way she said it like if so if she called me that the way she said it i would not leave the house for two weeks she was like that was so that was so that was so chill bella that was so Thank you. Just happened to come in.
Starting point is 00:29:59 The episode is about generational. It's different generations attacking different generations. But anyway, I'm going back to focusing on. That's Bella, everybody. Shout out to Bella. Yeah, she's a star of some of my routines if you're paying attention. Yes. So are we done with that one?
Starting point is 00:30:17 Yes. And I do love that Bella is like a real inspiration for your experience dealing with Gen Z's in Ireland. um like it's a sitcom waiting to happen does and oh and by the way to the gigglers that listen uh Bella is not from my second family even though in actual fact she is from my second family because she's one of the givneys that you know they're my cousins who are literally my Irish family okay you're becoming very defensive right now yeah so you're over explaining and now people are really questioning what's happening Okay, can we, I'm going back to somebody ripping on a boomer here.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Hold on. Okay. Hi, Hannah and Deb. I love the pod. I actually was just doom scrolling on Hannah's TikTok. I was there for a while. But anyway, something that bothers me about a different generation is definitely the boomers in regard to social media and how they handle themselves. I love my parents.
Starting point is 00:31:20 You know, they're great, but my mom definitely treats her Facebook. like a diary. Nothing is sacred. Nothing is private. Um, but along with that also, everything on Facebook is true. Um, the world is ending. If Facebook says it's ending and there's no convincing her otherwise. Um, yeah. So it's definitely something that bugs me about them. But anyway, love you guys. Thank you for doom scrolling my TikTok. It's an honor, a true honor. I do have to say it could be confusing if you're, you know, things that were in books were supposed to be true. And then it's like things on the internet are still written out. So people assume it's true.
Starting point is 00:31:59 And then you don't know what to decipher. And then even the actual news media has a lot of biases. Honestly, all the media does except for a burner phone. This is the only place where you get real news. Facebook is so mid. Facebook is so mid. Facebook is crazy because, yeah, you only see the people you follow. So if all your mom's friends have like the same opinions on stuff,
Starting point is 00:32:23 She literally thinks the world thinks that way. Like, they don't even have an explore page, like TikTok or Instagram. I mean, they, you're, you're really haven't been on Facebook lately. No, I haven't. Facebook has, as is pretty algorithmic these days, too, just so you know. But, but there is still a little bit more of that sense of you're getting stuff from like your, your friends. Yeah, your friends. But, but what I, I like about this is that that's almost like that old school, like a lot of, like, a lot of,
Starting point is 00:32:53 like older people on Facebook haven't really like let go of that like daily uh what they're eating yeah yeah because that is that was like the joke right back in the day it's like i don't need to know what you're eating right now you know but actually they they still kind of held on to that but they also what i've noticed a lot in the like older people i follow on facebook is there's still a lot of like i'm not naming any names, but somebody has been leaving their garbage out a day earlier than you're supposed
Starting point is 00:33:27 to put the garbage out, and it's unsightly. The name rhymes with Kemmali. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the passive aggressive Facebook post. Don't you hate it when your neighbor does this? I also
Starting point is 00:33:41 think... I'm not talking about any specific teacher, but I think... My son could never be the problem in this situation. It must be the teacher. Oh my gosh. And then they all rally around.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Everyone agrees, even though they only saw a paragraph of made up stuff. I do think the funniest part about moms on Facebook is that you'll go to like a family party and every time without question she will pick out not my mom but in general the ugliest photo of you and post it all over your page. and her page. So like if you're like meet someone new and you want to see what they look like in real life, find their mom's Facebook and you will see like rock bottom like their worst and that's reality. There's no face tuning. There's no good lighting. You're probably going to have just woken up and she's going to think that's what she posts for all of her friends. So that's like an attack. That's violence. It's straight violence. Facebook is chaos by the way. I just want to throw that down. Facebook is chaos. I still use Facebook, but like it just never got organized. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:54 It's like a, it's a messy room Facebook. I do also think some people, you'll meet adults and then there's always like that one adult. They're like, Uncle Mark is fucking wild on Facebook. Like, and you wouldn't know it. But it's funny because when social media became a thing, I remember if you start dating someone, you like have to see their profile to see like what their online vibe is. I remember I met someone once and he didn't have any and I was like I don't know how to judge him like I don't know how to like does he do selfies does he not do selfies what kind of tweets does he do like if you don't have an online presence it's like you don't know what that person really is but then some people are not like their online presences at all like they're super chill in person it's like what is the real person is that your alter ego is that just someone you're something you're having fun with that I shouldn't judge yeah you just you suddenly find out some people you never thought love guns. but like sometimes my mother would post shit i'd be like ma that's like that's like a crazy
Starting point is 00:35:56 you know like all right thing you post like oh i didn't know i just thought like she wouldn't even realize what she was posting so obviously i never met your mom however you've shown me some old posts and your mom loved a good meme your mom posted some hilarious memes like till the day she died are you starting to do me a mama right now you're literally doing me a mama i'm acknowledging a fact babe i'm acknowledging a fact me a mom's his show about his mom who passed away who wishes she met me because we would have loved each other but so my mother she had this friend who was actually a fan of mine Irish fan of mine who like connected with my mom and they stayed friends for like decade you know like a decade and a half and she would always repost this uh this
Starting point is 00:36:46 woman's memes some of the memes were like really inappropriate but The best... Dirty. The best meme that my mother posted of all those memes. So literally, like two and a half weeks before she died, when everybody, you know, she was in the hospital and everybody knew that she was probably dying, but she hadn't accepted that she was dying. She was still posting on Facebook, right?
Starting point is 00:37:10 And when obviously everybody was on Facebook waiting to find out, like, how she was doing, she posted a meme, one of these memes that says, like, which song suits your life? and she picked Staying Alive by the Bee Gees which I thought was pretty high. That's hilarious. That's pretty highbrow. What was kind of funnier about that
Starting point is 00:37:30 was I didn't see it until after she died. I was just going on her Facebook and like there was like a lot of funny there was a lot of funny shit on her face. Yeah, because there was another one like Eye of the Tiger by Survivor. That was another like music joke she made. We know where you got your sense of humor from.
Starting point is 00:37:49 Well, yeah, I got it from both of them. So anyway, there's a lot of death and cancer sort of like, just an undercurrent. We're ruining people's week right now. Yeah, there's an undercurrent of tragedy on today's episode. Like, life is about perspective. Maybe we'll bring some perspective to someone having a kind of off day. I don't know if I ever told you guys about how I had shapewear under my wedding dress. And in my wedding day, it ripped.
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Starting point is 00:42:03 To be honest, there was ones going at the Gen Z's, but personally I'm enjoying going after the older people more. Let me play this one because somebody messaged you about this so you're expecting it. Hold on. Hi, Hannah. Hi, Des. One thing I don't understand about older generations is their obsession with raking leaves. I'm out in my front yard and my next door neighbor is telling me that the leaves in my yard are making a mess. My yard is not a mess. Leaves from the tree fell to the ground, the way Mother Nature intended. You don't have to pick them up. They're inherently biodegradable. Just free yourself, Diane.
Starting point is 00:42:43 Just leave them there. Okay. Diane's got a call out. Betty's getting called out. Names are being thrown on burner phone today. These boomer names are getting thrown out. Diane. Ooh, that's like another version of Karen.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Diane and Karen are the same person. I do think like trees obviously are the reason we're all alive. Oxygen. Diane is a Democrat. Diane is Karen as a Democrat. That's very funny. No, yeah, Karen is a Republican. Yeah, Karen's for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:13 I do think that obviously we should have trees, but if I knew that I had to clean up after my tree multiple times a year, absolutely not. No, I don't need oxygen. Too much admin. I don't want the tree. But it's true. I remember when we were younger, like, it's so beautiful.
Starting point is 00:43:31 The leaves fall, and, like, we had to rake them. And then my brother and I would just jump in the piles of leaves. And, like, my parents would laugh, and it was so much. fun but it was like yeah why are we taking care of like it's like i don't know i mean clearly i'm just a city kid that doesn't know what she's talking about just wait for a windy day that's what i say it's just one brisk just one one brisk um breeze yeah because like the blowers come you know some the gardening company comes and they just blow the leaves onto the street also leaves are beautiful but like i would like to get in the point of my life that i care about like how my long
Starting point is 00:44:10 lawn looks like that sounds peaceful and like nice to be like oh the lawn looks so nice also sometimes the leaves are pretty you know they're orange and yellow I'm curious actually keep keep chatting but i'm going to google is it should we should you rake leaves I bet you there's like some safety thing that we're missing I don't want to get the message me like did you know that the the number one cause of bicycle slips is wet leaves that or it could be a fire hazard oh well we used to light him up. No, you didn't. When we were kids, like, we would love setting fire to like a load of dead leaves. Oh, Jesus. I'm not advocating for this behavior. I'm just saying it happened. Although people often rake and bag leaves to prevent their lawns from being smothered and to make their
Starting point is 00:44:55 yards look better. In most cases, you're fine not moving them. In fact, many environmental experts say raking leaves and removing them from your property is not only bad for your lawn, but for the environment as well. Oh. There you go. Oh. Surprise. So next time. If you have to do a chore, you go, actually, it's bad for the environment, mom, Diana. Yeah. Actually, another, surprise, surprise. The boomers fucking up the environment again. Look at you turning on the boomers.
Starting point is 00:45:26 I know. Well, what can I say? The boomers are my, like, the boomers are my older generation. Yeah. And what's doubly annoying is that the Gen X is, the forgotten generation, in my opinion, get thrown in with the boomers. How would you stereotype Gen X's? I don't know. You know what it is?
Starting point is 00:45:46 We, I just, I feel like there's not a lot of stereotypes about Gen X. I mean, I see these TikToks coming up. You know, why? Sounds like you're the mid-generation. No, we're the fucking generation that just got on with it. We didn't have time to establish who our identity because we were just too busy getting on with it.
Starting point is 00:46:06 We were the first generation that went to therapy. Oh, shit. We were the Oprah generation. You know, we came, we got old with Oprah. You know, we got old. We were the first generation that was told we need to talk about our feelings. Wow. Oh, this is a personal one of mine, which I like.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Hi, Hannah and does. I am an OG little devil and giggler and all the things. I'm also a girl that dates a guy 20 years older than me. So shout out to girls with daddies. So I feel like I know how to address this topic. The thing that bothers me about the older generation is how they scream into their cell phones. Like the person on the other line is a thousand yards away. It's like they got used to those weird brick phones and like the car phones that were hooked up to the literal car and they still think that they're talking on those like archaic cell phones um it like bursts my eardrums i don't understand why they need to yell like
Starting point is 00:47:17 the person can hear you you can probably whisper and the person can still hear you like i don't need my brain to shake okay this is this is so funny because also when you're yelling i actually can't hear you like you're blowing out the phone my dad shout out dad does this like he's yelling into the phone and i always have to be like they can fucking hear you and so can everyone in a mile vicinity of you right now and it just like they can't comprehend that the technology can actually peacefully send it i mean i would say that this isn't really generational it's just it's probably more prevalent in the older generation But I would like to throw down a cultural difference.
Starting point is 00:48:05 This is a bigger problem in America. Americans talk louder on their phones. And I really noticed this in the Delta Sky Lounge. There's a serious problem with businessmen in particular, but let's just say business people, where they think that the whole lounge wants to hear their stupid business phone call, especially, I don't know if you ever seen this, where these guys with their fucking air pods in are pacing in the fucking lounge talking about
Starting point is 00:48:37 their work it's actually such a weird power move because that's happened to me multiple times even like you get on the plane and the guy like has his laptop out and he's yelling and like I guess he's what he's doing is important and he believes is more important than like what everyone's doing around him so many times I've had to leave parts of the terminal because some guys yell and they're always yelling the same thing they're just like yeah we have to hit our numbers by next quarter okay and if that team doesn't talk to that team we're not going to have the sufficient funds like it's the same conversation every time i always have to if i'm on a plane and the person next to me has the computer out the laptop out uh i have to like look at the like
Starting point is 00:49:22 pie charts and weird shit that they have on their computer yeah are you like that i i will look at like what they're writing on their email the funny thing is actually kelsey cook had a funny joke about how she was on a plane and she pulled out her a notepad and she started writing something and the older man next to her was like oh my gosh it's so nice that your generation still uses a pad to write and she was like thank you and then she was like i was writing a new joke i was thinking about about how guys can come on your face because i will write jokes on planes sometimes and I get so nervous people are looking over my shoulder because I'm writing the stupidest shit like people be like what does this girl do for a living why is she
Starting point is 00:50:07 writing about like bad blow jobs also when I was little I remember I would buy cosmopolitan magazine it was it was just like 17 magazine except Cosmo had the stuff about like blow jobs and sex and how to make a guy like you and like sex toy stuff so I'd get Cosmo magazine and then I would like find the page of like the naughty stuff or like girls telling stories about like their first time and I would like secretly read it and if someone walked by I would like change to another page so that's how I became a woman nice how did we get here I don't know that was that was your sneaky I used to I used to like if I was staying in somebody's house I would look in the books and sometimes like
Starting point is 00:50:58 They would have a few, like, you know, like trashy romance novels, like mills and boons, we always say over here. You were, I mentioned it before you weren't familiar with it, but, you know, like, trashy, shitty romance novels. And I would, like, go through the pages trying to find, like, the sex scene, you know? It's very exciting. Before iPhones, obviously. Wow. Oh, that was, that was, that was, oh, sorry, I accidentally turned on the TV. Oh. God, that's so annoying right now.
Starting point is 00:51:28 Wait, babe, I have a question. So when you were doing these books, would you go straight to the cum scene or would you do the lead-up part? It's not exactly a come scene. We're talking like, we're talking like low-level erotica here. We're talking like, you know, she could, she could feel his arousal rising beneath her. You know, it wasn't like, it wasn't like full-on porn. Yeah, like, or like she had. You know, like, like Danielle Steele novels, you know, like, like, you know, like,
Starting point is 00:51:58 I don't know how to read. Like a hot. They would always be like a like a like a busty brunette walked into the bar. Yeah, but like on the front cover there would always be like a man and a woman like embraced. And it would be like a, you know, like a hot illustration. Oh, you know, almost like like the boomer version of magma. Magma. Oh.
Starting point is 00:52:21 What's the manga, manga cartoons? Um, anyway, let's. Hustler. no not like all right I don't know if this is a real thing I'm curious I'm going to look it up
Starting point is 00:52:37 but first we're going to listen let me know if you think this is real time blindness have you fucking heard about this did you know that this is a term the children nowadays think it's a thing because they made it up to act like
Starting point is 00:52:51 I don't know it's okay to not care about time or appointments or oh I'm such a little snowflake that other people who can't be punctual because that's what it's fucking called get a goddamn clock no no no i have time blindness and you need to accept this about me because everything that i come up with to complain about i will just make it seem like it's a new thing that you have to deal with because that's what these fucking kids do know right time blindness
Starting point is 00:53:19 ask someone to the time at the mall go back 20 years when you don't have a fucking cell phone then we can call this time blindness of the time there was nowhere to find the time you got to cell phone fucking figure it out bitch oh my god i'm obsessed with her i'm obsessed with her but again that goes back to like the marketing of things like if you market it as some kind of like disability when it's literally you didn't give a fuck about the meeting coming up these kids don't even have meetings you didn't give a fuck about going to school on time it's called i'm being bad with time yeah i i i'd never heard of it you know so i don't know is it actually a thing time blindness I mean, look, we all have friends that are always late
Starting point is 00:54:02 and you tell them everything is 20 minutes earlier, you know? You're Googling it? In Ireland, they have like a natural time blindness because they, like, I've been showing up to, I got out of the habit, I've been showing up to everything on time since I've been back here. And everyone's always like, yeah, you know, but like it was like Irish time.
Starting point is 00:54:23 Time blindness is, oh yeah, the inability to sense when time has passed and estimate the time needed to get something done. It's not an official diagnosis, but it can significantly affect how you plan and carry out your daily activities. I mean, I feel like I suffer from this all the time, but that's just normal to like,
Starting point is 00:54:38 you could scroll TikTok and it feels like five minutes, but it's been five hours. And then sometimes you're like, oh, I definitely want to get this work done. And then you start it and you realize, oh, no, this is going to take much longer than expected. This is just being human. We don't have like an internal clock.
Starting point is 00:54:55 This says that some individuals with their, ADHD yeah lack lack this natural timekeeping sense I also so I do think I have ADHD so I do understand it wait I'm gonna start using this thank you the one the one part of of this that I think is is genuine is that some people have a better sense of like an internal clock yeah I mean my my dad do you know that he never sets alarms like he will have a flight that is to get up at 7 a.m. or 6 a.m. And his body will just wake up at that time. Is that not insane? I mean, if I have to wake up, I mean, it's crazy. Like he won't set an alarm. And it's not like,
Starting point is 00:55:39 oh, he always wakes up at 6 a.m. So it's fine. He'll, if, if he says to himself, I need to wake up at 5.30 a.m., he'll wake up on the dot at 5.30. That's weird. That is weird. Now, I have to say that if I need to wake up at any time after 8 o'clock, I do not need to set an alarm. True. I do feel this way, but with directions. Like, I'm directionally blind. Like, I don't have an internal map where, like, if you put me somewhere, like, I'll just, I never know where I am. I don't have a map in my head. Time, I think, yeah, I do think this is a symptom of ADHD, but I also think, like, it's easily can be dealt with. But I would also think that, like a lot of modern day conditions, the amount of people that say that they're suffering from some sort of time
Starting point is 00:56:26 blindness would far outweigh the people that actually have time blindness. I mean, we called this time management skill in college. It was like you have to work in your time management. You have, you know, you have tennis, then you have to study, and then if you want to party or you have to meet up with friends, have you manage your time wisely. So it was like a skill that you had to work on, time management. Yeah. And that part of it, I understand, Like some people are better at managing their time that others. But what I would say is that time blindness in terms of like showing up late is not an excuse. Because if you're of the awareness to know that you're time blind, then it's up to you to manage your time blindness.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Include safety nets like setting alarms on your phone and just making sure that you don't get lost because of your less awareness of time passing. than others and there will be certain careers that will not be good for you like you probably shouldn't be an entrepreneur where you manage your own time you should have a job that like it's like a nine to five or like you know what you have to do during these time periods and it's pretty routine oriented but yeah if you've problem with time definitely have routines you know if i it takes me an hour to get ready i always have to get ready an hour beforehand like don't leave stuff up to how you feel yeah although i do enjoy a good procrastination on leaving and then stressing out of my mind
Starting point is 00:57:54 when I'm driving to a place and Waze is telling me I'm going to be five minutes late. We love that and I perform my best under pressure so I will wait till the last moment to do things because I will do it so quickly and well under pressure as opposed to just fucking around for eight days. All right, let's go. I want to let's go for another one.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I have time for two more. Here we go. I don't understand why my, My Gen Z little sister will never text or call me back, but she will randomly Snapchat me random pictures of her face or her hand or something that she's looking at in front of her multiple times a day or throughout the week. I really, I really don't understand it how it makes sense. That is so funny.
Starting point is 00:58:45 I do think, I could be wrong, but you're probably in her Snapchat friends, so She's Snapchatting all day and then sending it out to all her friends and seeing who responds. But this is definitely like Paige and I will have work stuff. Like I'll text her like, hey, can you send me this thing for work? And she won't respond, but then we'll be DMing memes to each other. So it's like it's two separate people like page at work versus page. Like she sends me a TikTok and I'm like, yay. But like she literally should be writing something.
Starting point is 00:59:17 So I do understand that. But also just because someone always has your phone doesn't mean you always have to be available. But it is annoying with like you see the person you're trying to contact and they're just posting on Instagram, you know? Yeah, but I, the Snapchat culture was kind of weird because it was almost like you had to communicate visually. Like I feel like that's part of the Snapchat thing. See, I was a weird year with Snapchat where Snapchat was like I had graduated already. so like I wasn't one of the young kids like sending tons of like nudes but that's all they used it for when I was on it and then I got off it originally that yeah so like I know the kid like I was with my cousin who's 20 no she's 19 and she was Snapchat in the car and I was like I'm missing out but no how many like dog mouth lick filters do I need in my life so I have a few observations one generation one generation difference for sure is like because you send me like a lot of memes and videos and like in your
Starting point is 01:00:25 mind that's communicating yeah and like i i i for some reason i still have that sort of boxed off as like separate to communication yeah i have friendships where all we do is send in me send memes and i feel so close to them because it's me being like i saw this on the internet and i thought of you because of whatever like I like to send memes based on like really specific inside jokes and I have a different thing for everyone. So for us, I send you pit bulls. I send you chiropractor. I send you stuff about our relationship. So it's like very niche to you and it's a love letter to you. Right. And I send you cat ones to try to pretend that I, I, you know, I've like embraced cats to make you, you know. Do you know what? There was something that I actually disagree with online, but they were saying
Starting point is 01:01:17 girls are better at seeing something and sending it to someone because they know that it'll make them laugh where men are more likely to send someone something because it makes themselves laugh. Interesting. Which I don't fully agree with. I think it depends on the person.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I think that we probably have a similar hit rate in terms of sending things to each other. Well, there's definitely times that I send you things that are like a little bit funny to me because of things and you're like, you should send that to page and I'm like you're right but I do also do remember
Starting point is 01:01:53 I used to send you gifs or gifs and you started over text but then I heard recently that it's chuggy to send gifs but I still send me a good gif I guess it's it's dated now did you send me a gif or a jiff about gigi hadid
Starting point is 01:02:11 did I? No I just I was just I was thinking about Gigi Hadid because of a... So, okay, so I have a couple more thoughts on this. This is actually about... I think phone conversations need to make a comeback. You know, there's this kind of like...
Starting point is 01:02:27 There's a stigma now that is, like, actually calling somebody is, like, too intimate or something. Like, we need to make a comeback on phone calls. Wouldn't you agree? Well, doesn't I non-stop phone call? And Paige and I non-stop FaceTime. So I'm actually, like, not that big of a texter. because I want people I'm you know I'm a performer I want to give the gossip I want to express it
Starting point is 01:02:50 I want to have a lead up to the story that doesn't have the same effect over text and I want your reaction I want to hear you go oh or I I love connecting over you know this is what we love to do we like to talk shit no I know but people like a lot of people text and it's like just let's just call I think calling really does make you feel so much more connected to humanity I had a and then my final thought is I had a very funny like modern technology moment where I you know in Ireland especially they're always call on WhatsApp you know so obviously these days most people are using like the internet to make phone calls right WhatsApp or you know a FaceTime but I had a bad connection so I called somebody like on just like their regular phone number and I was
Starting point is 01:03:40 like oh i'm calling you to old way i was like how it is how is using a cell phone to call somebody's cell phone now like the old way how to fuck did that happen i have to tell people how that reminds me of like my papa my papa doesn't have a cell phone just my nana has a phone and my nana was sick and my papa was handling her phone and my mom texted the phone and said papa do you know how to text and he responded and said no and i thought it was so cute my dad my dad died never having had a cell phone actually my grandpa my grandpa really did not want a cell phone like he really never got into all the technology and i i respect him for it he's like i'm not going to change for nobody
Starting point is 01:04:30 all right let's go uh we're going to do two quick ones okay and then we're out all right here we go here comes one hi anna and us the thing that bothers me most Most about a generation would be baby boomers giving advice on how to buy a house in today's market. When they bought theirs for three corn flakes, back in the day when they would walk uphill both ways to school. And now we're trying to buy the same shack for $800,000. In what mindset does that make sense? I just like the cornflakes line. I think it's so funny, but also like when you look at the price of houses back,
Starting point is 01:05:10 then you get so mad at the older generations you're like why couldn't you buy a building in Tribeca for four dollars you I think that all I think that all the time I remember there was this Greek there's this Greek American comic that was performing actually in Melbourne Australia which also has a lot of Greeks and he was talking to a joke he's like you come to Melbourne you meet up with your cousin from Greece and he takes you around Melbourne to show you all the houses he could bought for a lot cheaper 20 years ago, which is true. But anyway, listen, because there's a lot of, there's a lot of animosity between the Gen Zs and the boomers over house prices. I mean, I don't know the actual, you know, when you factor in inflation and what interest rates used to be back
Starting point is 01:05:53 in the day, I don't know what the discrepancy is, but I know it's still a huge discrepancy, but like the actual number versus what they bought it for is outlandish. But I think even when you factor in inflation and interest rates, I still think that housing is exceptionally unaffordable in comparative terms. Definitely New York City. Yeah, they used to buy stuff with beans. So actually, I thought I was going to do two quick ones, but I realized we did the boomer texting already. So, I mean, that's really, that's really it, I think. Well, obviously, obviously we got thousands but what a journey that was incredible do you want to add any fun ones for the end oh okay here's a fun i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna add one but here's one for me and you right this i i thought
Starting point is 01:06:43 this is funny hi hannah and does i love the podcast and i got to see you at the call her daddy show in boston this week and it like made my life complete so thanks for that um what bothers me most about another generation as a Gen Z girlie is specifically amongst baby boomers how they refuse to download TikTok and then they watch quote unquote TikTok on Reels and think that's the same thing like my dad is always like I saw this TikTok but no he didn't he saw a Reels and he saw it super late okay thank you for coming to boston girlie you saw me do the worm which everyone was hitting me up being like the real little dialers know that i said i love doing the worm and they were not surprised and then on giggily squad i talked about hip-hop yoga how i started doing it so everyone was commenting
Starting point is 01:07:44 oh she's doing her hip-hop yoga but um this is a thing i always say like people who are on instagram Reals think that Pete Davidson and Kim Kardashian are still together. Like, it's crazy. And they like to be like, oh, I don't, I'm not going to look at TikTok, but it's like, you're just consuming worse content. Why don't you consume better content with a better algorithm? And they'll be like, oh, I don't want to waste time on TikTok. And I'm like, oh, so you're not wasting time on Instagram?
Starting point is 01:08:10 I'm just trying to give you a better quality experience. Yeah, I, it was a nice observation. I appreciate that. I didn't realize that you had already observed that, the sort of reels versus. is TikTok. Reels are newer than TikTok, but they're not done as well. Don't cancel me, Instagram.
Starting point is 01:08:30 Don't shadow ban me. Things I learned from today. It didn't come up in the video, but I didn't realize that like Yahoo.com, Yahoo is like an accusation or like a slur from the Gen Zs to the boomers. A lot of people are like, yeah, he still gets his news from Yahoo.com.
Starting point is 01:08:50 That's funny. Or he still has a hot. Hotmail email address. Yes. Actually, my friend sent me, my friend sent me something the other day to download the We transfer, but his fucking email was a hotmail. Oh, no, babe. But that's normal.
Starting point is 01:09:03 You guys are in your 40s and 50s. My mother died with aOL.com email. I still have an AOL one that I don't use. The worst spam you'll ever get in your life. Oh, my God. The spam that you get on an AOL email is out of control. So, um, oh, I know you're really tired. I'm just going to play this one.
Starting point is 01:09:27 You don't have to talk about it, but I think you're going to enjoy it. Okay. I can't believe I miss this. I'm very sorry. Hey, guys, what's up? My name's Haley. I'm calling from California and I really, really have to say this. I need to talk about how younger girls these days and the newer generations are not going
Starting point is 01:09:45 through ugly phases anymore. This has been something I have mentioned with my girlfriends, even guy friends, and they're like, you know, you have got a point they do not have ugly phases anymore and I think it's because of social media probably because of TikTok they're getting all the tips that we were deprived okay we were ugly we used picnic to edit our photos I don't know if you remember what that was but that was a a whole other thing and then we also put camis over t-shirts we put gouchos on bobby jack you know we had headgear and braces these girls are cute they are
Starting point is 01:10:22 freaking cute. We were not cute. We were ugly. I don't understand what happened there, where the disconnect was, but it's just, we're not God's favorite. I don't know. No, I think she's so right, because it's like the content we were consuming. Like, we wanted to look like a limited two model a la page, but like those girls, you know, they had braces, pigtails, like little schoolgirl skirts and colored shirts. Like I had braces, acne. Yeah, nowadays people I guess do Invisaline. They don't even have braces. I I thought it was cool to have braces. I, like, wanted braces.
Starting point is 01:10:55 And these girls now are, yeah, they're, like, just learning. Like, I learned how to do my makeup when I was 15 in the locker room, looking at, trying to look at how other girls were putting on their makeup. And they didn't know how to put on their makeup. We're now girls just go on TikTok and have whole tutorials. I remember when I put blue under my eyelid, like, on the bottom, I thought I was, like, so fucking cool. And that's all I did.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I put blue eyeliner on the bottom lid. That was my makeup. Like, we didn't know what was going on. But I liked not being beautiful until I turned 32. Like, I think it created my personality. Yeah. I thought it was a nice observation to finish with. Obviously, I had my ugly face.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I was wearing Z. Cavarichis and turtlenecks with Guido chains around. If you don't know what Z. Cavarichis, just look them up. Even when the 80s came back, Z. Cavarichis didn't make a comeback. That's how bad Zika Vichis were. So you can look them up for the Gen Zee girlies. Anyway, we got to go, babe. You're literally, you're dying on me here. Oh, my God, because I lay down.
Starting point is 01:12:09 You laid down. Sorry, I had a whole shoot with Nana all day. And I'm really excited for everyone to see it. But, yeah, Nana can't hear very well. So I had to, like, explain everything to her. and she did incredible but it was like you know a long day well i thought i was going to die all day but anyway let's let's let's let's hit the road okay um thank you guys so much for listening leave a review tell your friends about um burner phone and every monday we're putting out a
Starting point is 01:12:43 prompt so keep an eye out on our instagrams honestly the messages have been getting better and better keep them coming um yeah comment we love the comments spread the word too what we need is we need to get the word out to more and more people about the podcast so we can continue to grow and uh yeah it's 1255 a m let's get out of here let's get out of here love you guys bye bye time to hang up hi hannah and des here's the thing i'm a high school english teacher and the thing that bothers me about Gen Z is that they love to come after us Millennials for being obsessed with Harry Potter. They make fun of us. They go, oh, what's your house?
Starting point is 01:13:27 Why do you care someone? And these kids, they can't fucking read. They can't. It's dark. It's sad. RIP the Future of America. But don't come after me for love in a book because you can't read it yourself. So many people of other generations will look at social media and like all these news
Starting point is 01:13:46 articles about data mining and, you know, they're tracking us and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, I don't give two shits. Like, okay, yeah, look at my nudes. Look at my porn searches. Look at, I don't know, what I ordered at Chick-fil-A that one time. I'm not Cadness Everdeen. I'm not going to go, you know, like, try to defeat the Csons. I don't give two flying fucks and other people just need to accept it. Hi Hannah. Hi, Des. Love you guys. So I feel like what pisses me off the most with Generation Z, Gen Zs, is that they really don't know what it's like to wait. Growing up as a millennial, I had dial-up internet.
Starting point is 01:14:45 you had to go to a restaurant to eat you had to like wait for your crush to come online so you could change your MSN status like you just learned how to be patient and I just feel like Gen Z expects everything I mean you can literally order anything now and have it at your door you can text someone facetime them. Like, I just really feel like they are missing out on some really good life lessons. Thanks, guys. Hi, Hannah and Dez. Love the pod. Thank you for making it. Shout out Giggly Squad. Um, what really, really grinds my gears is that now in days with this generation, people cannot have their own opinion. It drives me bonkers. If you have a different opinion than somebody else, oh, you're automatically wrong. No, you can't have that. No, you're
Starting point is 01:15:50 supposed to believe in what I believe in. And that just drives me nuts. I think people care about what other people think too much. Like, if somebody had a different opinion than me, awesome, great. Okay, like, don't even get me started here. Basically, I'm a newer mom. My baby, I'll probably hear in the background, is going to be one on Saturday. So one thing that's a new generational issue that I've come across is that the older generation thinks that they can do whatever they want with your baby. They will feed it things that your baby can't have. They will kiss your baby.
Starting point is 01:16:27 They will hold your baby at any time. They will not give your baby back when your baby's crying. basically like chill out leave people's babies alone and everything will be great love you guys hi Hannah and does so one thing that bothers me about like my parents and grandparents generation is that they think everywhere besides where they live and where they grew up is like the most dangerous place in the world I am a travel nurse. I work in the ER, but I also just travel a lot anyway. And everywhere I go, like, I go to North Carolina. They're like, oh, you're going to get attacked by a bear. I visit
Starting point is 01:17:15 New York. They're like, oh, someone's going to mug you and steal your stuff. Like, when I go abroad, it's always that you're going to get kidnapped. And I'm like, that could happen anywhere, mom and dad. It could happen anywhere. Plus, I'm women in STEM, so I'm smart. Nothing's going to happen to me. Yeah, that's just it. That's what bothers me.

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