Berner Phone - Berner Phone #5: The Best Life Advice You Ever Got

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

This week we asked our little dialers to give us the best life advice they've ever gotten! Some knowledge dropped about jealousy, performance pressure, caring too much about what people think, and marriage advice about ball sucking! Live stand up shows coming up in Austin, San Antonio, Dallas, Houston, Tucson, Tempe, Buffalo, and Bensalem! Tickets here caraway.health/bern Sign up for the Dashpass student plan with code BERN

Hi, it's Hannah Burner. And Des Bishop. Thanks for calling the burner phone. If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast. The burner phone hotline is officially open. Episode 5? Yeah, the burner hotline's open, which it would be cool to do. I don't mean a live episode like a performance, but it would be cool to do like a live...

Some live call-ins. Like a live calling. Because we do have some follow- up question sometimes, you know? Yeah, so today is life advice. Today is a more positive note. We'll be equally as silly, but I figured we might as well see the wealth of knowledge that people have and wiseness from the experiences in their life and have them submit their best ever life advice they've ever gotten. Yeah, it's a question you get asked a lot. I don't know if you do, you do these like these quick Q&As sometimes when you're doing like promo. Yeah.

A lot of times you get asked, what's the best advice you were ever given? So the one that I always used, which I originally heard, I don't know where he heard it, but I originally came from the comedian Johnny Vegas, British comic. And his best advice for a comedy career, but I think it's good life advice in general, is persistence without expectation. Does this resonate with you? I love expectation. I thrive on it.

I love the highs and lows of never being good enough, and it drives me every day. Yeah, but I understand that the persistence... That's a secret to success? Well, if you keep setting expectation and it doesn't get met, you can get disheartened. For sure. So it's really about the doing. It's like the journey is what matters and not the final win. Yeah, but it's actually...

I think if you're persistent without putting the pressure of the expectation of a result, that you actually have a better chance of a good result. Because you're focusing on the thing that matters, which is what you're doing matters. Yes. The result doesn't. That's so powerful. And not to bring up sports, but they have this meme recently showing an athlete focusing on the trophy when the ball is coming to them, like a cartoon versus an athlete not focusing on the trophy and looking at the ball they're about to hit. And it shows like focus on the point right now instead of the goal at hand.

Also, I do believe that you are better at what you do when you're going. actually love the process. It's, you won't quit as easily. Yeah, but I also think that people can get bogged down in disappointment. Yes. Or they can, they can be overly anxious. Yeah, that was my whole tennis career. Yeah, but I don't just mean like anxious in the game.

I just mean sort of like waiting for it to all happen yesterday. Yeah. And there's an enjoyment that comes out of it, which can, you know, honestly, I think it can, It can get some people out of the game. I don't just mean the comedy game. I mean, any ambitious person can get overly frustrated and it actually forces them to stop doing what they love. Yes.

I joke with Paige. Whenever we say anything inspirational, I always go, okay, Brunei Brown. But, like, I love this inspirational life shit. I love it so much. Is Andrew Huberman? Is he the male one? Yes, yeah, yeah, he's the male, Brne Brown. We need to, like, all act as Brne Brown in the future,

and you come in as him and we'll do like a lot to play it out. I don't, I sort of like, I'm like Huberman adjacent and that I see the algorithms really trying to put him on me. What is he telling you? He's not telling me because I'm just not paying attention because I'm like, oh, this guy again. He's giving like Joe Rogan if he wasn't a comedian. Yeah, maybe. Again, I don't like to say anything bad about Joe. Bray Brown is like interesting to me because when you actually look at her, she just looks like a Karen, but like everyone listens to what she says.

But I love Brennan Brown. Really? I didn't know that about you, babe. You know, I guess three years into our relationship, we still have some things to share. I know you love Ruth. No, because she talks about shame. It's the root of addiction. Oh.

Sorry, I don't want to get heavy. I mean, this episode, we were all funny beige flags and now we're like, the shame of addiction. No, I love Brunei Brown. But anyway, let's not get back down. With that said, should we get into the callers? Get into the call. Do you have anything to promote before we do? We're supposed to do it up top?

Oh, yeah, we always forget. Yeah, I'm going to be in Texas. I'm going to be in Tucson. I'm trying to look. I'm going to be in Hanover, Maryland. At a casino, right? At a casino. Nice.

Go gamble and watch Hannah. I have should go to hanaberg.com. And my Haley Bieber interview episodes are dropping. Not episodes. They're like two-minute videos are dropping on my TikTok and Instagram. So keep an eye out. And also, if you've got any boyfriends out there, Make sure you make them listen.

That's the mission. The mission is to make the boyfriends listen. To burn her phone. Yes. Oh, yeah, girlies. We're trying to do an experiment and see if the boy, you know, they're like, oh, Giggly Sky's not my thing, but they're like listening in the background the whole time. They know all the inside jokes.

This might be a good, like, what's it called when you go from drug, gateway drug? Gateway drug to Giggly Squad. Yeah, and then you could listen together and then you could like. Or they'll give themselves, they'll allow themselves to laugh at this. Does want to see if the male listeners are interested. I, if we start getting some mail calls. that'll be hilarious. Yeah, it'd be great to get, you know,

because you have, Giggly Squad, you have the Gurley's. Why not brought in your horizons? I love what you said Gurley's. I have no choice. Half the messages. By the way, by the way, listeners, I sorted out the messages this week, okay? And a lot of girlies.

Okay, I have an actual problem. I think I cannot stop saying Gurley's. It's my whole personality. You know when you're like, I get something for two weeks and I can't stop saying it. And then I'll be on to the next thing. Right now, Gurley's, girlies, girlies. I notice a lot of your people say, like, I'm in my something era.

Yes, that's a big thing right now. Yeah, that's a big thing. I'm in my... Like, you do anything, like you'll eat yogurt and you'll be like, I'm in my yogurt era. I'm in my yogurt era. You're actually so astute to... I wonder what era. I'm in my hip mobility era.

I'm in my... Like, the algorithm is just like, oh, five ways to fix your shoulder pain. I'm in my how to listen to your husband call you and complain about his hip mobility era Yeah, I'm in working my core era I'm in firing my glutes era I'm in my getting my glutes to fire era I'm in my make sure you give your husband enough time to stretch

Or he's cranky era Yeah exactly I'm in my pigeon stretch era Okay yogi I'm in my pigeon pose era all day Honestly pigeon pose is impressive Who do you think's more flexible mirror you honest to God what's insane is that my body is falling apart but I'm pretty sure I'm more flexible than you yeah because I have a lot of muscle very muscular and it's hard to stretch yeah you're just not flexible

you know but that's fine you know you're you're in your you're in your accepting that you're in your 30s era it's a that's a tough era you know because you're still I love being in my 30s it's the best the 30s the 20s were horrible yeah so anyway we got some awesome I'm I'm not, we've already gotten one, by the way, we've already gotten one review that complained that I cut you off a lot. You always get, we'll always get that. You'll always get the cut off. You always get the cut off.

I know, because I've seen Giga Squad reviews and they're always saying, Hannah cuts off page. I was like, I was like waiting because, you know, I don't normally look at the reviews, but because this is like a new venture, I've been very on top of it the last couple of weeks. And I was like, because I was doing, I edited it, right? And I was like, I noticed I cut you off a few times. Yeah. You know, but like, because we're excited.

And I was like, how long will it take? And it took two days. But I do have to say, if you speak and then I pause and wait to respond, that means I wasn't listening. If I'm cutting you off at the end, that means I heard what you said and I'm so excited to respond. Like just now. I just did it just now. You talk loud, you just keep talking and whoever's louder gets their point across. That's how we survive on this pod, okay? With that said, we'll be quiet now for the first.

We're in a studio today. We actually have Haley. A producer, Haley. We have Haley to play our messages. Yes So this advice was from a friend in Dubai I taught abroad one year And I am a people pleaser

And I analyze what everyone thinks And I just want to keep everyone happy And she looked at me one day and says Do you know about the three Fs? And I said no And she said If they're not feeding you Fucking you

Or financing you They don't get to have an opinion about you And I will never forget I got it. Wow. Amen, sister. One, I love that someone was building something in the background. Yeah.

I was like, is there a horse, is there a horse in carriage going by? I love that. But like these people, they're giving us, they're pouring their heart and soul out. Well, I like, I like that one because, first of all, I like something that feeding you. Feeding, fucking, or financing. You don't owe them anything. Yeah. They don't get to have an opinion.

Are they saying, though, that life is transactional? No. What I think it means is that you don't have to pay, you don't have to have too broad a field of people that you're concerned about their opinions. You're right, that's what she means. That's what I think. I love that.

And I love that feeding was involved, because as an Italian, we show love through food. Yeah, I mean, obviously, I think that there's a broader field than just the three apps. But I think it was, I think particularly the advice that she was getting was very situational and that she was clearly having an issue. Yes.

with somebody. And, you know, I guess it's a good way to be like, you know what? Actually, it doesn't matter what they think. I would actually argue a step further that if someone's feeding you, fucking you, or financing you, it still doesn't matter what they think. Wow. Wow. As the biggest people pleaser ever, I hear so much of people think.

You know, and in terms of people feeding me, I don't give a fuck what Uber Eats thinks about me. Uber Eats can suck my dick. Is that who feeds me? And then the fucking, obviously, there's tons of guys or girls who you're fucking, who you shouldn't care what they think, and they don't owe you that. And then someone's financing you, look, I don't care if he's a daddy, you do what you want to do. I think at the end of the day... I mean, I think this may encapsulate, like, your parents when you're younger, this is a broad, this is broad advice. There are times when yes.

I mean, listen, I think in certain situations, this is great advice, and, you know, I thought it was a good call. Haley, hit us with another one, please. You can't think yourself into acting right. You have to act yourself into thinking right. Okay, Buddha. That's it, right? I mean, I included that. My brain is blown.

I included that one because I actually think that's quite profound. Can you explain it a little bit? Because my squirrel brain is. So you can't think yourself into acting right. You have to act yourself into thinking right, which is basically that doing is greater than analyzing. Like, have you heard the term? analysis, paralysis?

Yes. Yeah, so I really, and I feel like this is such good advice for so many situations in life because actually thinking can really, it can really cripple you, and it can stop you. And there's so much clarity in the doing. Have you ever noticed how something gets so simple once you actually do it? Well, I think of like stand-up as a performer. There's a lot of comics who will just like think so much, like you'll think yourself into like a paralyzing place of like all the possible things that go wrong. And if you just are

calm and go, I trust that I can go out there and figure it out. That's how you become better. The people who are less afraid to fail and are just doing it are actually, I mean, now we're doing every type of quote. But like, I used to overthink everything in terms of performing. And once I just like realized that my thoughts were actually making my body, like, tricking my body to think what I was doing was scary when it wasn't. Yeah. I mean, your thinking can absolutely paralyze you, but also there's just, uh, there's just so much more understanding in the doing. Like, you actually get so much of a greater grasp on, on, on, on things that you're dealing with by taking action. Yes. I, I, I love the concept of like, just keep moving, just keep swimming.

I mean, Nemo, great quote. Just keep swimming is really, like, with life, nothing is stagnant. So as long as you keep moving, you'll never be in the exact same places you were. And if that place sucked, it's okay you're not going to be there forever yeah and also in relation to like um you know say projects or challenges um you you will only get better at whatever it is you're trying to do by doing i think also our brain tends to go towards negativity like we get a dopamine hit of like the highs of being scared of stuff like we're not just sitting there being like what are the greatest things that can happen it's like how will this go wrong so knowing that we're human and our brain is trained to worry and try to prevent bad things from happening it's like let's not

Let's not say we did. I'm not religious, but there is also a Bible quote. Faith Without Works is dead, which I always thought was a great quote from the book of Romans. So in other words, it's really about what you do. It's not about professing your love for the Lord. I'm not religious, but I always thought it was a good quote of actually you got to do stuff to be a good person. You can't just, you know, be religious and therefore you are a good person. Not to bring this into dating, but I feel like, or in general, if anyone has the need to tell you, like, I'm a good person.

I feel like those are the worst people ever. Any guy who told me I'm a good guy has always been a straight up, like, serial killer. And I'm like, oh, he was so paranoid that I would see that he wasn't a good guy that he had to proclaim it in the beginning. That he was a good person? Yeah.

Yeah. That's an annoying type of person. And you know who is the most annoying type of person? The person who's like, oh, you know, a lot of people don't like my sense of humor. It's like, probably because you're an asshole. You know, these people who give you a warning at advance? I'd rub a lot of people the wrong way.

It's like, guess what, asshole? It's probably because you're a dick. You know what I mean? Anyway. Will we go for another one? I just thought that was simple and it was a nice one. I love that. I love that so much.

If the decisions in your life don't get the butterflies, then your life is pretty boring. Okay, I love that she was jumping out of a spaceship. She was just taking a break from making a subway announcement. She was about to make an announcement. on the subway, she was like, first train will not be stopping in Prospect Park. This train will not be stopping at Park Park Park.

And then jumped off the air train. Jumped off the air train. We're not arriving at Terminal 4. Hold on. I have to make a contribution to burn the phone. If life, it doesn't give you butterflies, it's not worth it. Again, just a quick one. I included it because it's nice because, again, it's something similar, right? It's action-based. It's like,

is this something that is challenging you? Is this something that's making you nervous? that's probably it's a good thing to do In adulthood Not when you're a kid It makes you feel alive It makes you feel alive

I will argue Someone will go up to me Like before a performance And say I'm really nervous And I go Well if you weren't nervous That would be the problem And nerves are actually

A certain amount of nerves Is proven to make you You're like most focus And try your hardest So it's like Those butterflies are good But then people say in relationships Like it's true

There's a level of butterflies That's important But too much butterflies Where you're like So fucking anxious is actually a red flag. Oh, yeah. In relationships, yeah.

But that's definitely different, and it's definitely not what's going on. Yes, yes. I took this more as like, you know, trying to grow in your life, you know, trying to sort of, trying to step out of your comfort zone. For sure, for sure.

I took it as a step out of the comfort zone thing. You know what one of my first ever tweets was, was I can't tell if he gives me butterflies or I just have anxiety. Yeah, not a bad tweet. Thank you. Not a bad tweet. It holds up.

I add, in relation to you and butterflies, that in the early, after we met, and I was watching your career progress, there were times where you had very important stand-up shows, and you were strangely calm, to the point where I was like, she might be a psychopath. I think Hannah might actually be a psychopath, because there was just, at times, too much calmness, But I know that it's because your stand-up challenges to date haven't superseded the nerves from, like, big tennis matches, because tennis is obviously very nerve-wracking. But there were times where I was like, she should be more nervous. Do you remember a time? Not specifically.

But I also think, I think maybe also, because I'm doing stand-up for so long, I think at that time you weren't even aware of how you were feeling. But also, I, when you're obsessed with the result, you get more nervous. and with stand-up I have less of an ego and I'm more just like proud that I'm even on the stage and that's from the experience of tennis where it was all about I was so petrified before matches I'm like if I'm going to be a stand-up comedian I have to have

that comfort with my own mind I'm so calm beforehand and I will get like a rush right before I get on stage of nerves but then I um like you feel because stand-up you don't lose you might mess up a little and also I know my girlies are there for me. I know. I forgot. I lost the train thought. Let's go to the next one. My therapist told me one time I was trying to chase after a relationship with someone. They were

not really having it. And she said, Sarah, they have cat energy. You have dog energy. You need to chill out and let the cat come to you. And she was like, you need to realize when people are cats in your life and that your energy is not going to attract them. And I thought that was really good advice also hope that's helpful. You like to give humans dog or cat identities. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So, thoughts?

I have so many thoughts. Yeah, I left it in for you. The one thing is I feel like they're putting a negative connotation on cat energy. I feel like as in cat energy... I thought she was suggesting that you need to be the cat. Well, no, or that cat energy is really good, but that it's...

Oh, wait. I know the feel. I had this last week with the peeves. I, you know, sometimes too. I was so worked out. Too many thoughts. I have, like, hundred thoughts going on. Okay.

So I always say that Paige has cat energy. And I think cat energy is a good thing where, like, you can't force it with them. They will come to you if it's meant to happen. And I think I actually have dog energy. Oh, you are. You're a, you're a dog. You're a pit bull. You're a pit bull that from a shelter who, like, wasn't, you know, didn't, like,

like learn properly. Socialized. Yeah, he weren't socialized properly. Like, why is she humping my leg right now? Because she was in a cage, a tennis cage for all of her childhood. Why is she on TikTok till 3 a.m.? She's got the zoomies. And it's got the zoomies.

Why does she not shut up? Yeah, you're like a pit bull. I can't get adopted. And Paige has cat energy and I have dog energy, but they work because they're different. But it's more about understanding the kind of person. I also have Ken Energy sometimes in that I love being alone. alone. I don't need to go to the party. If a lot of people show up, I get overwhelmed. I leave.

I like the one-on-one hang time of, like, you being pet by someone. Yeah. So that's you. Yeah, so I'm saying people have... But you've got to relate it back to this. You can learn from this that, yes, see what kind of energy people have. But if someone doesn't come for you, it doesn't mean, oh, they're a cat, you can't be with them. It means, don't force it, leave him alone, which I like. But sometimes two cats get along, two dogs get along. Yeah, because I'm a dog, too. As far as I was concerned, I met you. I was like, oh, another dog. Sniff my ass.

And that's how we connected straight away. Okay, what's next? Hit us with another one. First of all, Hannah, I love you so much. And then, Des, obsessed. Anyways, my best advice I've ever gotten was don't be a bitch until you have to be. Ooh. Love that one, man.

One, I love that she gave you a shout out. Yeah, I actually, I was the only one I think I didn't listen to. I just read the transcript. She goes, Des, and I didn't know where she was going to go, and then she goes, obsessed. I know. I was kind of waiting to be let down there. No, she's... Great pause.

Great dramatic pause. Because if she said in Des Obsessed, that means she's almost being sarcastic. She paused to give it power to emphasize. I love that so much. I'm actually... It's basically like pick your battles. Yeah, and also just like sometimes it's required. You know, it's like Superman.

Yes. You know, it's like, I mean, suddenly the problem is big enough that you have to put on your fucking bitch cape and you got to fucking lay down law. I think it sucks when people are like obviously bitchy all the time. I don't think that many people are like that, but some people suck. But there's some people where it's like you have to exercise that muscle to stand up for yourself sometimes. I remember when I was- Assert yourself. When I was younger, I was like getting... I hate that I bring up tennis again. Oh my, here we go again. I can't wait. I can't wait for the... Hey, hey, troll reviewers. Let me get ahead of you.

She's fucking talking about tennis again. Okay, if I was a male athlete who played basketball in college and I referenced my basketball career, do you think people get as mad? I'm, listen, we can't say. Tennis and life are very similar. Your relationship with the ball is the same as your relationship with life. But I was playing tournaments,

and I was like being a nice, kind human the way my parents polite sportsmanship. That's what I was trained. And girls were like, cheat you. Like, it was war on the court. And I remember my mom pulling me aside once. She's amazing. like, sometimes, it's okay if you act like a bitch.

She said that? She said the B word? I think he said, or she was like, yeah, she was like, you can't be so nice to these girls. Like, they're bullying you. And from then on, I like, when I get on the court, I'd have, like, kind of superpower personality where it was like I wasn't the same girl off the court.

On the court, don't fuck with me. Yeah, well, look at Cocoa Gough the other day. Oh, yeah. Obviously, I'm big Coco. People want us to talk about what happened. I'm Team Coco, and I love Cocoa Gough. You love Cocoa. And she's very nice, and she's very gentle, and she's cute, and she's funny.

But eventually she was like, you know what? I got to lay down the law. This bitch is fucking with me. Yes. Fucking with me. Yes. Straight up gamesmanship, which I hate. I hate.

But do you understand that's all tennis is, like in the juniors, it's tying your shoes, it's bathroom breaks. That's part of tennis. So all I'm saying is that it was time for Coco. Yeah. It was time for Coco to throw it back. Now, you text me, we weren't together at the time. You text me, and you were like, yeah, but she shouldn't have lost her cool.

It's going to affect her. And you were right, she lost that game. However, she did put the umpire who was not dealing with this match well. She put her on notice. And in the next, the next time Coco was serving, what's her face? Frauleen, went to the towel, and she got a time violation. And then she tried to act like, I only went to the towel once, but I was watching her the whole game. The problem, though, was the umpire should have been calling that since the beginning.

So that girl's argument was like, I'm doing the same thing I've been doing the whole time. and now you call it. So. Yeah, but Coco, yeah, but, like, and now you call it? Well, like, you know, it got out of control. Ideally, you want to try to stay calm in those moments, because if you're a player and you're old and you're tired and you're playing Cocoa Gough, and the only thing getting under Cocoa, Coco's skin

is that you keep going to the towel, I'm going to the towel. You know, like, that was, and Coco's getting worked up, and Coco's getting worked up. Yeah, but she shouldn't be allowed to go. But here's the thing. In the end, I think in the end, Coco actually did the right thing. She was like, I've had enough. Well, Brad, her coach was like, you got to say something.

But the reality is that she kept having to wait to serve. Eventually, you have to be like, yo, I shouldn't have to wait. My hot final opinion is that the umpire didn't handle it well. And it's a little annoying because the umps nowadays, there's automatic line calling. The only thing you have to do is make sure the flow of the match is good and that you keep control of the players. So, Coco should have never had to get to that point. But she handled it. And I was proud of her for standing up for herself.

And let's stay on notice. is about sometimes you have to don't be a bitch until you need to be and cocoa fucking turn the big B up yeah it's got a result it is good because if someone sees like oh she has boundaries and I surpassed it be always be nice but once people know you have a boundary sometimes they respect you more yeah for me it's like a moment too of like Coco she's been to finals but now this is the moment of like wait a minute like I'm not a little kid anymore like you can't fuck with me and I'm down with it but also just to to polish this off because I actually did think it was good advice is

you've got to be a good person most at a time, but every now and then you have to assert yourself, and it's actually very effective when people are not expecting, you know, like they see you as somebody who would never get to that point, and you do, it's almost, if you're a bitch

all the time, it loses its effect. Oh, you're so right. Oh, she's, oh, this one again. That's why I don't wear makeup. That's just the way she, you know, the way it is, it's like, that's just the way she is, you know, because a bitch obviously, gendered. But I also would argue it's contextual where if someone's a bitch to you, you just don't be a bitch for no reason.

Yeah, and we'll do a whole other episode on passive aggression. We won't get into it now. We'll do a whole episode on examples of passive aggression because that's the worst. Yeah. When, you know, suddenly you're like, people are acting like... The post-its on the refrigerator? Fight me, bitch! Anyway, we'll go to the next topic.

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you always do and it helps just you know push me until that moment happens and then just also too when i am living my best moments and have the highest highs again it's i tell myself this is temporary and it just allows me to be more grateful and in the moment for those things um so it really just helps like teeter all life moments whether good or bad everything's temporary I love that so much. I love that so much. I thought it was a good message. As someone who suffers from depressive episodes sometimes

and is always like, how do I be happy? How to be happy? I realize it's also your perspective on happiness. Also, there's no legitimacy besides behind any of the things I'm saying. Take it with a grand assault. But like happiness is not something that you have all the time. Those are those temporary highs. Life is about being content in those quiet moments

where like nothing good or bad or bad or good is happening, being okay with being content with it. Like, life is not about like skipping around all the time. It's like you're going to get groceries. Can you be okay with your mind in those content times? Yeah, I mean, this resonated with me a lot. And we had, to be honest, this message represents numerous people that messaged in. So if you didn't hear your message, can I, I've, if anyone is thinking that you sent something similar to this, that this is for all of everyone that sent this in because I think it is really good life advice and a lot of people

because like some people were in recovery clearly they had said this two shall pass which is a very like AA 12 step slogan but in early recovery which this is why this resonated with me there are times where you feel like you can't take it like that you want to drink or you want to use

and it just it feels like it's too much and there's so much stuff pumped at you in those early days of no matter how bad it feels no matter how much you think it's imminent that you have to try to get out of yourself that this feeling will pass and at the time it feels almost inescapable and I think that's analogous to people

that are having deep bouts of depression it can be hard intellectually it can be hard to process that but if you are constantly surrounded with the awareness that nothing is permanent, it can help. I'm not saying it'll always work. Obviously, some people are probably going, I've been in the depths of despair

and not been able to get out of it, but I do think it's a good thing to practice, both on the positive and the negative. I like that she included that. Yes, and I do think just, like, chemistry and, like, science in general, cells are just always moving. Like, the world does not ever stopping.

So, like, something, like, everything's changing every second. And I remember, I look, you look back, like, remember when I literally thought that was what my life was going to be, good or bad? It's crazy. So you take that with a grain of salt that everything is always moving. Also, burning in hell, I started the pod because I thought I wanted to interview successful people because I thought, like, they're living different lives than other people.

Like, their life is just full of all these happy things, especially with social media. But I really feel like everyone's life is, like, everyone's life is, like, like a certain percentage of sad things happening, a certain percentage of happy, a certain percentage of stagnant stuff, and it's how you react to it, with it, and what story you attach to things in your head. And there's a great sense of balance.

Ping He came into my mind, in Chinese for balance, but there's a great sense of balance and harmony with that because if you try not, if you don't lean in hard to the highs, it's easier to not lean in hard to the lows, you know, because there's just less turbulence in the emotional... I'm very bad at that.

In the emotional ocean. I love a high and a low and a low. You know, the Buddhists, the Tibetan Buddhists, they talk about the practice of non-attachment, the idea of impermanence. Should we become Buddhist? Well, I don't recommend we become Buddhist, but I would say, don't be a...

afraid to read some of their stuff. Obviously, it's still religion and there's some stuff that's a little strange, but the non-attachment stuff is good, you know, because what can happen sometimes is something feels so good or something feels so important is probably more like the thing that matters. Something is happening to you that feels like if this is no longer happening to me, I won't be able to cope. And that is like a dangerous place to be. I've had those feelings before.

Yeah, and I don't just mean. so wrong. Relationship attachments, but also like work attachments or the way things are going attachments, you know, and like nothing is permanent. So it's not about not enjoying it, and that's why I thought her message was great, because she's, you know, she's saying, acknowledge it, be grateful, you know, acknowledge the wonderfulness of it, but also don't let it become so much a part of you that its absence will leave you hollow. Yes, and also perspective in that, like, going back to what you said in the beginning if you're just chasing like big accomplishments

that's one thing but what if you're waking up and saying wow I love the smell of coffee wow I love peting my my pet wow I love you know the feeling of the sun on me like if you can embrace those little things

it's like that's that's powerful and I didn't get to that point I'm definitely going to play that back to you wait you can't do that That's your, no, that's not cool. No, no, I just, no, I think it's great. I think it's great advice that you've, that you've given. I know what I'm supposed to do, babe.

I'm not actually doing it. I'm the same as you. I am, I try to practice what I prove. No, you're, you're very like, oh, I'll have some leisure time. You call it, and you'd be like, come sit out on the deck. And I sit there for three seconds. I'm like, got it. I sat on the deck.

Oh, you got to meditate, man. But there's another, again, oh my God, I sound like Andrew Huberman. Jesus Christ. Well, you spoke in a language. I just wanted to add a French quote. I like to say, Luanne de Lesseps said it. She said, she said, she's la vie. Say la vie.

Sevent. It's va'est. Say la vie, Haley. Let's have another one. What does Selevy mean again? That's life? That's life or, you know, that's the way. Wait, this one is underwater.

Please play it. Hey, Hannah and Des. So, when I was in middle school, My mom shared this advice with me, and she would always say when, like, a girl was being really mean about whatever, she would look and say, they're just jealous. And when I was a kid, I, like, didn't really believe it. I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay. But now as I'm getting older, and when someone's, like, mean to someone else, to me for no reason, I'm realizing that they're unhappy with their life and they're jealous of something. I have or something someone else has.

Wow. Yeah, amen. That's good. I would add to that what she said about something bad's happening in their life. If you could also detach from it and not get mad at them, like obviously you have distance from them, but not take it personally. Yeah, have compassion for them.

Have compassion. Obviously you don't have to hang out with them, but no, don't have anger is exhausting to be like, fuck that person. They're so, they did this to me. Instead, be like, take it as a compliment that they're coming for you. because that means that they're threatened by something that, that means you're shining too bright for them, you know? Yeah.

So, no, what I loved about it was that I 100% had that adult realization about advice that was given to me by adults when I was younger about jealousy and what motivates people's behavior towards me. So I think it was just, it was more like I just so much identified with her adult realization of things that. that she couldn't comprehend when she was younger. Yes, I also think the hardest part about this is even if you have that realization,

if you go to people who aren't really your friends and you go, they're jealous of me, people will hate you for that. You can't ever admit that people are just jealous. They're jealous, because then I was like, well, who the fuck do you think you are? Yes. So like, if you say it out loud, that doesn't work either.

So you have to internalize it and just know it and move on, which is difficult. And also, you have to have a, you have to wait for someone else to say. You have to have a friend. You know, it's like, sometimes if you're like talking about it, you're like, yo, it's your line. Yeah, yeah, bro.

It's your line. It's time for you to say they're just jealous. Also, if you were the friend, you're like, oh, like, this girl, she's, like, so mean to me, and they don't say she's so jealous of you. She's not a real one. Can I, can I just tell you that, whatever, I'm not going to get into any specifics about any bullying incidents I had when I was younger, but there was something that my mother said to me, which I completely dismissed, but,

During one of these incidents that I was dealing with, my mother turned to me and said, it's because he's short. She literally turned to me and said, it's because he's short. He's jealous because you're tall. And at the time, I was like, she's out of her mind, but I'm pretty sure she was correct.

Well, she's talking about a possible insecurity, and he was projecting onto you. But yeah, if you also, what I try to do in these situations where you feel so attacked and upset, is think how you handle those situations. Like, when you get jealous or you're upset, it's always about you. It's never really about them.

Yeah, and the crazy thing about jealousy is like, jealousy is a normal human emotion. You're just supposed to feel it, acknowledge it, and then move on. It's only when you engage with it, that it becomes a problem. Well, also, yeah, what are you going to do, like, try to ruin people's dreams and lives and careers?

But the other great thing is that there's other advice coming that's going to relate to this. but it's this great advice about how other people don't relate to you. Other people's issues don't relate to you. You're such a little tease. Hit me, Haley. There's room for everybody at the top. You don't have to put other people down just so that you can be successful.

Part of being successful is helping other people along the way. Amen, sister. I don't think what people realize how much collaboration, involves being successful and no one's doing it alone and also I love having successful friends I like get off on it

so like I want my friends to be doing so well because it's a compliment that they like me is that? No but it's great the thing is that again that goes back to the jealousy thing it's like the jealousy is a normal emotion but you know you can counteract it with actually being like

no isn't it awesome that these people are doing well because you know it doesn't relate It doesn't relate to it. It's not to do with you. You can change the story in your head, not, I wish, you know, bad on that person or I'm upset. I don't have that. It's, oh, I want that. This is great.

I now have a vision towards what I want, and it's so cool that that person has paved the way already and showed that you could do it. And plus, obviously, another 12-step principle. You can only keep what you have by giving it away. I like the sentiment of actually by helping others is part of your success. One thing that's helped me with jealousy. is the concept that everything's temporary because after I've had some things

that I've always wanted and it happens to you and you realize like that is such a temporary high because you're back to just being yourself after five minutes. It doesn't last anyway. So when I see stuff happening to people now I literally think I hope they enjoy this moment

because next week you're back in your own head. Your back wonder when's the next cool thing going to happen. And I also, I always quote... There's nothing better to deal with your jealousy being like, you know one day they're going to fucking fall flower in their ass. I literally tell Paige I'm like, you know those people they're like, oh, they're 18.

and they're making millions of dollars. I'm like, I hate when they're 30 thinking about how they were more successful when they were younger. That's going to suck. And she's like, you're so negative. But it's like, life is about perspective. And also, Mike Feeney had a great quote that he told me once, which is like, life is, we're all like popcorn.

It might be the same temperature, but we pop at different times. Nice. Right? It's so good. I love a food reference. Where was that at the beginning with your life advice? That is a cracker. No fun intended.

Pop-pop, pop. Yeah, we all pop at different times. So when I see someone pop, it just shows that, like, people are popping. This life that's possible to pop. But when it comes to Hannah, once you pop, you don't stop. This bitch loves to work. You know what I'm saying? Oh, I bet you're going to say I love to eat.

Hit us again, Haley. So I am somebody who spends too much time overthinking things and over-analyzing. And my principal one year said to me when I was just stressing over something and replaying it over and talking about it, if it's not going to matter in five years, don't think about it for more than five minutes. And I loved that. Again, this is one that I included because I'm not exactly sure

what it relates to all the time, but I thought it was a nice, I thought it was a nice, simple sentence that would help some people in some situations at some stage in the future. See, I'm like kind of a little bit too much of an opportunist sometimes and I have anxiety where I will convince myself

that like this one decision I'm making will affect the next five years in my life. I'll be like, If I just said yes to that podcast. Oh, yeah. I mean, we all, we all do that. I mean, geez. I have this fear of regret.

Oh, well, I mean, it's a decent, it's a decent fear because I definitely could tell you. I mean, everyone loves life as Rosie all the time, but like my father lived a lot of his life with regret. My father was like expressing a concern about wrong decisions he made in the 60s until his death. Wow. You know, so like, it's not like you don't think about those things. Yeah. And it can be like a, now we're like giving people a new. fear but like I do think overall it's true how if you put too much weight on one thing and you put

your energy towards it it does become a problem no but I do think it's a great this is a great like you know the way people that suffer with anxiety that they look for these simple fixes yeah like there are there there have been things that have like consumed me true concerns true that have consumed me well beyond yeah any sense of what they really are yeah And I do think so. A sentence like this might help somebody when they're all hung up on some trivial thing that has gained way too much importance in their mind

to go, is this going to matter in five years? And I think it won't wipe out everything, but maybe it might be something that will wipe out a particular concern that has taken up too much space in their head. Yes. Or also, like, are you really stressed about this? Or you're putting external stress into this one side thing? I also think I've been watching too many documentaries

where they'll be like, she said on this phone call that she wanted to do this and someone overheard her and then her dreams came true. So you think like all these like tiny, not pivotal moments become pivotal moments, but that's called Disney. And that's also luck. Yes. There is luck. And luck happens when you are persistent. Hey, Hannah and Des, huge fan of the pod. So when I was younger, my dad actually used to play cassette tapes of motivational speakers. in the car when he would drive me and my sisters to elementary school, so just, you know, really drilling this stuff into our heads. He would in particular play this one guy named Zig Zigler,

and he would always say, you become what you think about, and my dad always repeated that sentiment over and over and over again to us. Basically, the idea is that if you have a really clear visual for what you want for your future, you'll take the necessary actions to get to that place, which is kind of like the original manifestation in a way. I've been doing this stuff since kindergarten. So that's my best life advice. You become what you think about.

So her dad was the Richard Williams of manifestation. Her father's Tony Robbins. No, that's incredible. I mean, I left that in for you because you like manifestation. No, I love manifestation. That's why I think I watched tons of documentaries of people on their come-up because I'm, like, obsessed with the come-up. Yes.

of like you had no money and then you worked hard and your dreams came true and that's all I want to think about I don't think it contradicts the expectation thing because I think that it's important to set goals

I think goals are important it was true whatever you put your energy towards it happens I like the like kind of L.A. shit like I'll go there like the study of someone

who like yelled at a plant and then like complimented a plant and the plant that got complimented all the time grew better I'm gonna make that up didn't you guys have a t-shirt there's Manifest that shit? Yeah, manifest that shit.

Yeah, so I mean literally, the only response necessary for this message is Manifest that shit. Haley, hit us. Hi, my girlfriend loves your podcast, and when she told me the question for this week, I had an immediate answer. So the quote given to me by my sixth grade teacher

was, if the required minimum is your chosen maximum, the result is mediocrity. And I think that really speaks for itself. That's like an intelligent quote for a sixth grader. Yeah, I mean, that was a, I don't know How, it took me five reads to figure out that quote. So I don't know how he figured that out in sixth grade.

If the required maximum, if the required minimum is your maximum, the result is mediocrity, man. I thought that was a great quote. If the required, yes. Yes, if the required minimum is your maximum, then the result is mediocrity. In other words, like, if you're only going to do the bare minimum, you're not going to achieve greatness. Oh, for sure.

You know? So, again, doesn't need a lot of chat but I did think it was a great quote hit me it's not the best advice we ever received but it's the best advice we have to give separate blankets people separate blankets in your bed is a game changer for a relationship do it you will not regret it I mean come on wow I mean this is like we're talking practical you know what I'm saying we've been all hippie-dippy-dippy spiritual. Let's get down to some practical

fucking advice. I have questions. First of all, does your bed just have like two blankets on it, or do you put it underneath a bigger blanket? Also, I'm not going to know when I'm asleep who has what blanket. If it's a blanket, it's going on me. No, they're basically saying you have your blanket and I have my

blanket, so then there's none of this like, you know, moments where you wake up, it's like, where'd my blanket go? I mean, it's genius. The amount divorces, probably, that have had because someone turned over holding the blanket. Yeah, I think I saw Tom Papa have an amazing routine about, like, who came up with the dumb idea of couples share a bed. It's just like, basically, you get married, and you never sleep as well for the rest of your life. I can't remember his exact joke, and I certainly don't want to, I just just shout out to Tom Papa, but when I watched it, I was just like, God, he is so.

I feel like sleep can cause tons of resentment in relationships, like, whether someone is snoring or, like, they're too hot. Air conditioner temperature. This has got to be divorce creator. We disagree. We're on the same page on so many things, except for the temperature in the bedroom is one of our great conflicts. Well, he goes, you say,

because my shoulders get cold? Yeah, we've talked about that already on this pod. Somebody messaged me the other day about, they sent me an item that was like, it's good for cold shoulder sleepers. I want it fucking freezing, and then with a nice warm blanket. And if you don't like it like that,

you're a psychopath. Yeah, well, this is a great advice. So you want to be hot. No, I just want, I wanted the separate blanket advice to get out there and people can do with it what they want. This is my thing. If we've been walking around all day with a certain temperature in the apartment, you're going to keep that temperature and then put a blanket on you, that's too hot. Yeah, but your body temperature dry. You're not the same temperature at night.

You wake it up. Listen, I'm not going to get into the science of sleep. I'm not Andrew Huberman. I'm not going to get into the science of sleep. But I'm telling you that you generally want to be a little bit warmer while you're still. sleeping. We'll take another one, Haley. Well, you got the last word. This year I went to Nashville for my bachelorette, and I was going around asking all of these girls, you know, like what their best marriage advice is. And I found

this group of like 60-year-olds, about five, 60-year-old besties who were on a girls' trip in Nashville. So I asked them what the best piece of advice is for marriage. You know, one of them never go to bed before or never go to bed. angry, you know, all the typical stuff. And the one lady turned around and looked at me and said, I've been married for 43 years. And the best piece of advice that I could give you is to always just suck on the big balls. I don't know if you're looking for marriage advice or just the advice in general, but it seems to be working. Bye.

Suck on the big balls. I know it's not great advice for us because I'm a cancer survivor. It's just good advice in general. Suck on the one ball he is left after having cancer. How turned on are you? The thing with the ball sucking, sometimes it's sweaty. Sometimes, God forbid, you have a little tooth actually, accidentally nip it.

I feel like it'll be like a rest implant and just, like, stuff will come out. I think you're overly concerned on that front. I mean, and then there's two of them sometimes. I don't know. on the big balls. I just thought it was funny. She shocked me. I thought she was going to say cheat.

I thought she was going to say separate beds. Yeah, that's so funny. Hit me. I love that. Hi, Giggler here. Love you guys. Just wanted to say, and you too does. The best advice I've ever received, and my mom always said this to me, was it's okay to be sad for a little while.

But then you have to wash your face, put on. your makeup and go do something that makes you happy and put your big girl pants on. So don't cry forever. And it's just such good advice. It's so, so true. It's okay to be sad, but you got to suck it up and get back out there. So I like this because I feel like this is a sentiment that has gone out of fashion. It's gone out of fashion. But there comes a time where you have to attempt to break out of it, which goes back to act your way into good thinking. Sometimes you have to fake it to make it. Another great expression. You cannot, you have to try to break yourself out of feeling stuck. Well, the hardest part of depression is you don't want to move, but the only

way to get out of it is to move. So it's like trying to get an internship at a place that needs 10 years' experience. Yeah, but I do, I think there comes a time in the process of dealing with something where it will help to, I mean, suck it up is probably considered to be like a negative term now, but there's the right time for suck it up. And I think she expressed that pretty well. Yeah, she's saying it's okay to be sad, and it's also okay to give yourself the kick in the butt that you need to get out of that. Because it's like, I like it phrase better even to be like, it's okay to feel sorry for yourself for a second, and then don't let the sadness take over. It's like, don't let the sadness win. Yeah, my dad, my dad had a terrible childhood.

We're not going to get into it, but at one stage, he was going to write a memoir, and he did write some. I ended up writing a book about my father, and I included the writings that he had done. But he got similar advice from like a random guy in a building site in London. You know, he had broken his back. He was a sportsman, you know, and he had to give up the sports and he was going through all the depression that

you talk about, about, you know, making a life change. Plus he had his childhood stuff, and this man said, you know, you will lose yourself in wallowing in what's bothering you. You have to like get back and just

you know, stop, feel sorry for yourself and at times that seems it seems harsh right but there's also a sense of you can be lost in the in the hurt you can you can get lost in the hurt something has to happen to you that's so bad that you have to that's only people like turn to religion sometimes that you have to be like this must have happened for a reason like the universe needed me to change what was going on because if you just go way why why no figure out why yeah because i I have a lot of compassion for people who have dealt with what I would consider to be like really difficult things to liberate yourself from. Like I can understand how you would drown in the pain.

Yes. Right. But I also know that life is so harsh and it's like the only thing that you can do is not drown in it. Yeah. That's the only choice that you have, the unfairness of life. It's so cruel. Yes. But at the same time, I think sometimes it can help you to.

say, hey, listen, you're right to feel this way. But you also have no choice. You have to try to break out of it. And once you realize that it is a choice, though, that you can choose happiness and you can choose. Well, freedom, I think, is the better word. Yeah. Yes. You can choose to free yourself from the pain. Also, speaking of going through a lot of pain, people who have gone through a lot of pain are not only the funniest, but they're the most interesting. The best at dealing with situations, like when I went through really hard times, the person I came out as, was like such a more well-developed human based on trauma and stuff

and you think like oh I miss that innocent young girl she didn't know what the fuck was going on now you know yes now you know what's up there's no need to be nostalgic for your naivety oh nice it's easy to have rose color glasses I've done that before like oh before this you know this breakup I was so happy it's like no you weren't yes how many do we have left Caley

Only two. Well, let's go hard. And I do want to say, I know what we're going to call our listeners, and I'll say it at the end. Okay. One of my favorite life lessons, advice things comes from a RuPaul quote, and that quote is, what other people think of you is none of your damn business. And I say this to my friends or my family members when they're kind of caught up and, like, what people are thinking.

Yeah. It's actually really good. I thought that was good. I'm not trying to brag about myself, but I did something mature a couple months ago. Someone said to me, by the way, someone was talking shit about you. And normally, I would get my popcorn,

and I would be like, let's emotional cut and let's get pissed off about something and let's get in the drama. But I was like, uh, uh, uh, I actually don't want to know what they're saying. And in that moment, they were probably telling me it for not necessarily a good reason. They have their motives for telling me. We don't know if it's true.

And also, if I don't know what it is, they can't affect me with it. Amen. And it was the most freeing, it's like when a car crashes, you actually don't have to look at it. And once I realize I can make that decision, it was like, and I'm not around me like, who's talking shit? I'm like, whatever it is, it's not something that I want to fill my brain with. Yeah, it's irrelevant. You're not supposed to know.

That's the most important thing. Yeah. You're not actually supposed to know. Sometimes you find out by accident. That's why I always say, don't look at the comments because, like, it doesn't matter. You, you, how you feel about what you do is what matters, right? Also, think about when you talk shit with a friend. Sometimes you just do it to, like, relate about something.

You're not actually passionate about it. You might make fun of something. Or like, it's not like a real, if someone has a real issue with you, tell me. But like, a lot of time, people are just trying to be liked. Yeah, but also, it's also okay to have opinions about what people are doing and what people are saying. and what people are saying, it doesn't, it's not for them to hear. It's just very normal for us to have opinions about what other people in our lives are doing. And if they heard what we were saying, they would probably be upset, but it's like you're not supposed to hear. And also,

a Brene Brown quote was something along the lines of like, there's two types of people, the people doing and the people critiquing. And you can pick which side you want to be. Yeah. I mean, I prefer to be a doer most of the time. Yeah. And those are the people that will get commented on a lot, but that's part of the gig. That's part of the game, yo, that's why every rapper... Do you want to play, or do you want to be... That's why every rapper's second album is all about the haters. Fuck yeah, I love that. Every rapper,

we've said it before, right? I love that, yes. Every rapper's first album is like, yo, I'm the best. Nobody can fuck with me. And every rapper's second albums, they're all coming at me. The media, the police. Yeah, you can't trust nobody. Yeah, you can't trust everyone's. All these bitches are up for my money. It's so true. It's so true. But let's go with, uh, let's go with that one more.

As I love you both. love the show. The best life advice that I've ever been given is a quote that I created because I'm a woman in the arts. It's one creating the story of your life. Don't allow anyone else to hold the pen. So basically it breaks down to just not allowing anyone else to control your decisions or influence the destiny in your life. I think that you can get some positive influence, but ultimately you should trust yourself. It takes practice and discipline to fully make decisions based on what you feel you want to do. And it's better to write your own path, so to speak, even if the path along the way takes you to unintended stops. It's just

always better. And for me, I've always applied something positive to a future situation from those experiences, knowing that I made that decision all on my own. I didn't let anyone and else sort of coerce me into a different direction than I wouldn't have gone otherwise. Wow. Very good quote. I don't know what she does for a living. I hope she's in the arts and I hope she's writing.

Like that was so beautifully said, no pun intended with the pen. Very profound. She should write a book, at least some, she got to write something. Yeah, I thought that was a great quote. She was like professionally recorded. No, it was amazing. It was a podcast. She should have hosted this.

Did we accidentally get recorded? from somebody's... Was that for Ney Brown? Yeah. I felt like that was... That was it. You got to be the writer of your own story. That was incredible. And I also think she's right in that a lot of people give you advice, but they don't like actually know you the way you know you. Like they think they know you, but you know who you are. But it's true. Finding out who you are, it takes time and mistakes.

But I love that so much. Because also if you think of your life as like a story, it's way more beautiful than just like us flailing, which is the reality. Yeah, and there was another nice thing about that that I thought, which is that, you know, you are actually, you are the author of your own story. And obviously, like all writers, they have contributors, they have people that help them to come up with ideas. But you are the author of your own story, which also helps you to own it, you know, that it's yours. Because it's very easy to hide behind blaming others or, you know, finding a reason why something has gone wrong. Whereas if you are the author, it's like, oh, well, I've, that wasn't the best chapter. But still, all the great books have great drama.

People do, there's like the quote, do it for the plot, where when something bad happens, you're like, this is a great plot. Whenever, like, when I had really difficult jobs in the beginning, I would think, wow, this is going to be so good, like if this was a future documentary or a book, or just a podcast being like when I was getting paid $300 a week to, like, make tons of videos and stuff.

And I love that come-up story. I'm obsessed with that story. And the drama makes for an exciting season of The Bachelor. Before I forget, I know what we're going to call our listeners. Okay, what is it? And it's an homage. I'm very French today. It's an homage to I used to call Burning Hell the Little Devils.

And they still are the Little Devils. But now I would like to call them the Little Dialers. Let's see how they feel about that. We'll leave it up to them. We'll leave it up to them. Leave it in the reviews. We love the reviews. We love the reviews.

The reviews help the chart position. The reviews are the little dopamine hits that are keeping us. going right now. We got up to 32 in comedy. Really helping our relationship. We got up to 32 in comedy. We'd love to get even higher. I mean, I know it sounds desperate, but it's a, it's a results, it's a results game.

You're so funny, but no, it's, we love you guys so much. This was a deeper episode, but I feel like we were at that point together. Hey, at the end of day, it's like, let's talk about the real shit. And this used to be burning in hell. It's not like a huge leap. not a hugely but all the girlies were ready to go and the one and the one and a half man yeah the one guy uh you know and some other guy in the background yeah we heard all the men breathe yeah yeah so um oh actually in the beginning i forgot to promote i i'm about to put some work

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