Berner Phone - Berner Phone #61: Childhood Nostalgia
Episode Date: October 17, 2024Hannah is back on pod this week and we're feeling nostalgic. Is there really such a thing as a the good ole days? Those who got to go to Blockbuster on Friday nights and burn CDs for their high school... girlfriend would say yes. 10% off skin and body care at oseamalibu.com with code BERN 40% off at hungryroot.com/BERNER 15% off all products at lumedeodorant.com with code BERN 20% off and a free cat toy at prettylitter.com/BERN
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I'm back, bitches
He thought you could get rid of me
But you couldn't
No, actually, just to clarify
You're the one that was getting rid of yourself
Just to clarify
Nobody was trying to get rid of you
This is literally like say me
I will get like overwhelmed with something
And I was really stressed out
And I was like I can't do this anymore
And then today I was like
What are you doing?
And you're like recording burner phone
And I was like, can I do it?
Also, I just lasered my entire body, so I'm feeling zip, zap, zipped.
Ready to go.
Yes.
The way you described it, I expected to smell like burning hair when I worked.
I do actually smell a little bit like someone just blew out a candle.
And there is smoke in the other room.
But apparently I'm a good candidate because I have dark follicles and paler skin.
So she was like, you're a dream client.
And I was like...
Why is that?
because it's easy to see?
The laser is more effective.
Oh.
But, yeah, she did my chin, which I've never done before, my mustache.
She did front back side.
And is it immediate?
It's immediate, but it does grow back, and then you shave, and then she does it again.
It's basically just, like, slowly killing the follicles.
So basically, you laser it enough that they give up hope.
They say, what's the point?
I don't, just let me die.
But what, yeah, I mean, obviously, we're not going to get into the signs of it, but like, why is it that it eventually kills it?
How does it?
Because I think the follicle has no strength.
And, yeah, they don't have a will to live anymore.
Wow.
It offsets.
It's like, no, thank you.
You're going to fucking blind me every month with this bright laser.
Yeah, who knew hair had emotion?
Yeah.
Oh, now you're making me feel bad.
Now I'm going to go vegan.
actually does called me and he was like what's i do for bird phone this week and i was like i actually
have a good idea and it's nostalgic of course it's nostalgic so what was the idea i forgot
oh hannah come on it's it's what do you think uh like essentially what do you think kids these days
are missing out on that you had from your childhood yeah what's something in your child because
every and then i'll see something like i was watching like lindsay one of the lindsay lohan movies
like for you Friday and I was like this generation doesn't know like what it was like to have
like Lindsay Lohan on the up yes and whenever you say this stuff out loud you immediately think
of all the grownups growing up who were like you don't know Stevie Nix and you're like okay
but like now I get it yeah but Stephen Nix is kind of having like a bit of a revival at the moment
not just because we watched the documentary but she did S&L yeah and Ariana Grande was like
obsessed with her and I mean it's pretty crazy that at this age
she's doing this.
And she's like on TikTok because
she actually performed with Taylor Swift
in Dublin. And she
like referenced an Irish TikTokers
catchphrase, Garin Noon. He always
finishes by saying, follow me, I'm delicious.
Oh. And she said that at the end of the set.
Oh, that's hilarious. Well, she also was going viral
on TikTok because
she sings a song that she wrote
about her ex.
And her ex is on stage with her
because he plays in the band.
So it's her pouring her heart
And the way it was phrased was like when you're singing the song about the guy next to you
10 years after you broke up or something.
Yes.
Oh, so she went viral.
That could never happen with the Swifties.
Could you imagine John Mayer walking out with Taylor Swift?
He gets stoned.
There would be bedlam.
He would get stoned.
So let's, we have so many.
Yeah, sorry.
No, that, no, there's no apologies here.
There's like, God, I almost don't know where to start, but I'm going to start with
this was kind of cute
so like a memory
that I have from my childhood
that I really like cherish
was just going a blockbuster with my dad
and like picking out a movie to rent
and we do this like once a week
and it was it's like a simple thing
but it was like you know
like the very little time I had with him
and it was a great like bonding experience
that like you don't really get to have anymore
like you could just get that so quickly now
just go on Netflix or like
Disney Plus, you just get a movie really quickly, and that whole experience is now, like, gone,
which is kind of sad to me, and I think that's just a lot of social interactions that just don't happen anymore
because everything's so easily accessible.
So, yeah, I feel like they're kind of missing out on that.
God damn, that was wholesome.
You know, and this came up numerous times, but there was something about the emotion in her voice.
that was touching
because this is like a happy
it's a simple thing but it's a happy memory
with her dad but it is true
it's not
as satisfying
to go through Netflix as it is
to have gone through Blockbuster
I remember how there
was this like local
video rental place
yeah because of course Park Slope
they couldn't have a blockbuster
we had you know the place where you go
to rent videos and on Friday night
I was allowed to have a sleepover with my friends
so me and my friends would go with the mom or the dad
and we'd pick the movie we were going to watch that night
on our sleepover and it was like so fun
I remember we'd be like is that too scary
or is that too naughty or are we allowed to watch this
and it was so much fun but it had me thinking about like
yeah Netflix makes it easier
but it also is so much less satisfying
and that's just like human behavior
I was even thinking like the other day
I got like people just sent me
like lipstick. And it's like normally if you buy
one lipstick, you're like, this is amazing. But if you
get 10 lipsticks of different colors, you're
just like, I don't know if I like any of them.
And I gave it to my younger
cousin, and she also was like, okay,
like, cool. But if it was
one lipstick, she would have probably been like, oh my
God, thank you. This is beautiful. But like, if there's
too much, it's like, you don't
understand the value. But that's the same
thing with, like, dating. Someone on
TikTok was like, do you think
dating apps should be abolished?
what because because the concept of just constant new people being in your orbit is not healthy is that why
yeah it kind of reminds me of Netflix how like for example they said certain movies that popped off back in the day would not have popped off with Netflix because it would have just been like for two weeks people liked it and then they're on to the next one yes and that's how sometimes with dating you meet someone you kind of like but then you also know like I could literally in another second meet someone else who gives me this dopamine hit and the next thing you know you don't
appreciate any of the connections you're making
because there's so many connections.
Yes. I mean, I think that that's definitely
something that's going on.
Yeah. I don't know if people realize
what it was like when a really hot movie came out.
Yeah. Like Return of the Jedi, right?
Which I went to see Return of the Jedi in the movie theater, but
when it came out of VHS, people don't realize
you had to go on a waiting list. Oh, my God.
Because there was only so many videos. Yeah.
There was only so many VHS. Yeah. It's a Queen's video,
but this is long before Blockbuster, pre-blockbuster.
You go to Queens video.
And a hot movie, they'd be like, oh, yeah, no, they'd open the book.
And they'd be like four weeks later, you would get the opportunity to get.
But it makes it so much more.
So exciting.
Exciting.
100%.
But you could, in your own situations of whether it's your marketing something, you still have to use that, like, find the value in it.
But it is sad.
Like, things just move too quickly for you to stop.
would be like, holy shit, this is amazing.
But I will say that
some of these things still exist
in that the cinema, the movie theater, still exists,
but people don't go as much.
No.
So the convenience also stops you
from doing stuff that still actually exists.
But also, we are watching a lot more movies,
discovering more movies, more movies can be made.
It does remind me, I saw another TikTok about dating
where it said, like, in the 50s,
people met, you met everyone through,
like church or friends
or family.
Not work because women weren't working as much.
And then by the 90s
it was like work was the most popular thing
and friends and then now
but it was all like kind of close
all the percentages and now it's overwhelmingly
like 65% of couples meet online.
Really?
But then it's like is that great
like that people are meeting online?
It's just changing.
It's just different.
Yeah, it's just different.
I mean if these people are together
and they're happy, then you can't argue that it's...
Yeah, and you don't want to become those people who were like,
it was way better back in the day, was it always?
Were there any good old days?
I mean, it definitely wasn't back.
In fact, I jokingly put a picture of...
Because I had a memory of
when a front car seat was like straight across
and kids could sit in the middle, which I don't think you would have remembered.
No.
It was gone by them because it's actually not...
It's not safe.
But there was a seatbelt in the middle.
But kids, I remember.
sitting in the middle of the front seat.
So I just put that picture up
on the thing. You posted it too. And then some
guy was like, yeah, things were better back when
kids could die in low-impact collisions.
I was like, okay, bro, I'm not suggesting
me go back to the days of this. It was just
a nostalgic picture. So there will
always be people that will... There's pros and cons
to everything. There's pros and cons.
Well, I was even... Okay, not to go on another rant,
but the music industry, someone was
like, TikTok has ruined the music industry.
Everyone was just trying to get TikToks.
And, but back then, there were so many gatekeepers that only so many songs were being made.
And now there's, the gatekeepers are different.
And then they'll be like, no, the algorithm controls everything now.
And it's like, okay, so now the algorithm.
It does.
But back then, three major labels controlled everything.
So it's like just a different person could think controlling.
But you know what?
I'm going to throw out something controversial right now.
For all the terrible things about that record companies in gatekeeping, I think they had better taste than the algorithm.
And maybe that's controversial.
No, I like that take
But I have to say
Everyone's like
Oh, TikTok changed music
The radio and TikTok to me
Are pretty much the same thing
Because I would just listen to the radio
The radio would tell me what's popular
And then I go on TikTok
And that's my radio
And it tells me what songs are in
It gives, I think it gives a chance
For somebody who would have never had a chance
In the old system to break out
But I don't think it gives as many people
A chance as people think
But since we're on the topic of music
Let's go to some music nostalgia
Okay, just wanted to add on one more thing to writing notes, CD burning.
How many times did you have the thrill of your life making the best CD ever for your best CD?
You downloaded the music illegally, probably on LimeWire, you know, got a million viruses in the interim.
But you put together a sick playlist and then you wrote with Sharpie on it,
Samantha's 12th birthday, party weekend, or maybe an email message.
because, you know, your crush, let you down.
I don't know, whatever.
I've got a binder with hundreds of burned CDs
and that shit never gets old.
Kids these days we'll never understand.
Did you do that?
Okay, so I was obviously loved LimeWire
and I download all the stuff and I remember I would put it on my iPod
and I did have a CD case, but I was never sad.
or maybe I was a little too young, but she sounds younger than me.
Um, I wasn't savvy enough to make my own, but like guys would give me CDs.
Yeah, so you would like, you would like getting one.
I would get one.
And by guys, I mean one guy gave me one once.
Yeah.
I never made, I mean, I loved gathering up music, but I wasn't big on like making mixtapes for people.
Do you know when you'd be like moody in the back seat of the car with your parents and you'd pull out your CD, your flip,
CD thing and you'd flip and you'd put it in and then you'd just be singing in the back to your own
stuff. Oh, to your disc man? Yeah, I never did that. Why? Honestly, I never was like moody in the
back of the car. I was always just like engaged with talking. Yeah, and arguing. I had Christina
Aguilera. I remember vividly putting it on, playing it and being like, come on over. Come on over, baby.
And Daniel would be like, please stop, stop singing.
It sounds like a whale's dying.
You're fucking, and I'd keep going.
And he'd be like, Mom, tell her to stop singing.
No, I would just make my mother listen to Hot 97.
You know, I'd be like, no, ma, this is good.
You're down with OPP.
Yeah, you know me.
Who's down with OPP?
You know, my mother loved Howard Stern.
I told you that before, right?
Yes.
Yeah, so we used to listen to how it's turned in the car.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
We had a lot of, like, we listened to Shakira.
We had all the now CDs.
Now that's what I call music.
And we had this big mirror in the brownstone in Park Slope
where it was like my music video.
So I would just, everyone would, I don't know what they'd be doing,
but I'd be playing music and just staring at myself in this full mirror
doing a full music video of me singing and performing.
I would do it for hours.
Then I'd take my tennis racket and I practiced my swings
and I'd hit the chandelier and my mom would get mad.
Happy memories.
Happy memories.
My mom was not happy.
Happy for me.
Well, speaking of your mom, here's a memory that your mom will remember
that you will, you're definitely not going to remember.
We used to have the radio on with like, you know, a blank, like, cassette, whatever, the brands.
What were the brands of cassettes?
Do you remember?
No.
God, they're out of my head like.
It's before my time.
Wow.
God, I can't believe.
I do remember cassettes because I remember they'd break and then that little thin, like, ribbon would be everywhere.
Maxwell.
Maxwell, blank cassettes.
so you'd have the cassette in the thing blank
and then you would wait for a song
like the first couple of notes you'd hear a song
boom you'd press record
so then you would have access to that song on demand
why does it seem like we were so much more technologically savvy back then
where nowadays you're just like okay this TikTok video's not loading
no we weren't technologically it was so annoying
but you would make these you would you know you would make these tapes
with like the crappy little you know yeah my parents
we got a karaoke
machine, which, looking back, they must
have wanted to blow their brains out.
Torch of themselves? Because it only had two
songs. It was
Superman by
one of these bands, and
say my name by Destiny's Child.
So I go between those
two songs. I know every
fucking millisecond. What's Superman?
If I go crazy, then
will you still call me Superman?
If I'm alive and where
will you still be a hold in my
hand? I'm going to buy my side as
My superhuman, my
Kryptonite.
No, it's kryptonite.
It's called kryptonite.
My kryptonite.
You sound like Ariana Grande's trying to sing badly
in the Bachelorette video.
I can't get that Bachelorette video.
I can't get it out of my head.
Domingo.
I can't get that song out of my head.
Anyway, that was some happy memories.
Okay, I'm going to play this.
one because I don't know what this is and you might not know what it is and if it is we'll just move on okay
but I'm curious if you know hi Hannah and Des I am a new giggler I have listened to almost every single
episode of giggly squad and I'm obsessed love burner phone um but one thing that I think that this generation
is missing out on is Libby Lou and you're from New York you guys are from New York so you know this
I'm from Long Island and Roosevelt Field Mall, we had Libby Lou, we got our hair done,
we got our makeup done.
Every single party that I had when I was younger was at Libby Lou.
And it doesn't exist anymore.
And I really think that if this generation got off their iPads and sat their asses down
into Libby Lou, they would just be so much better off.
Thanks, love you guys.
I was just curious if you knew.
Now, I know you don't know, but here's the thing.
I actually think that sounds genius.
In this age of TikTok and makeup tutorials,
how has somebody not created?
Because it sounds like it's some sort of like
fun getting makeup done for like young people, right?
Yeah.
Why are they not doing that?
Yeah, well, all the...
The content that would be created.
All the little girls are going to Sephora,
which is for adults,
and like buying up all the things that they think smell good
and it's so expensive.
And it's like we need their own thing.
Sephora needs to create like a, like a teenage,
age girl, place to have, like, birthday parties.
Also, side note. My friend Emily D. Donato
is a famous
Maybelline and
just a famous model, like one of the most beautiful
people you've ever seen. She was on Burning
in Hell. You could scroll back to that. Very interesting.
She went on TikTok the other day saying
just letting you guys know that all your favorite
skincare brands use 18-year-old
models to show
their skincare. And she's like, I was
18 when I did all these campaigns
for skincare. And it's like, it's not
the fucking moisturizer. I'm
18 years old.
Yes.
And it's just so funny to think that.
But yeah, all these girls...
Never underestimate an older woman scorn.
No, I'm just saying it's false marketing.
Oh, of course it is.
And a lot of these girls are now going to Sephora
and buying skincare that they don't fucking need
because these like 16 year olds are using retinol or whatever.
It's ridiculous.
Stuff like that and it's just wasting money.
So it's like let's give them their own like safe haven
of like cute fun stuff to use.
So that's what we need.
We need like a new,
and actually part of the party
should be about making people comfortable with themselves.
So it would be like a health and wellness
on top of the beauty and cosmetics.
I'm all about thinking of ideas of like events you can go to
that don't involve just like blacking out
or getting drunk.
Yes.
I was even thinking of like a cat party at night.
You just go when you play a cat.
You know cat cafes are blowing up
Yeah, but I got to tell you that like
Cats don't need like a bunch of like
Hyper fucking teenagers coming and blowing up their spot
You know what I mean?
No, not for teenagers first sad 30 year old women
Oh, yeah, but they exist, they're cat cafes
Paige and I are trying to pitch retirement homes
For people in their 30s who are tired
Yeah, that's what we, you know, that's what we need
We need like assisted living for people that just can't function
Well, yeah, you know, we were talking about there's no in-between.
It's either, like, the psych ward, a hospital, or, like, go on vacation.
It's like, what about an in-between or you just, you put yourself in a place where, like, yeah, you're not completely tweaking out, but you're not okay.
Yeah, that's a, it's called a cruise.
Like, that's what a cruise is.
Were you talking about this on Giggly Squab?
Yeah, but I just want to lie there and, like, watch TV, and it's not too expensive, and people bring you food and you vent.
to someone and you get facials, but it's not like Amangiri, like some $6,000 a night.
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All right, so here we go.
This is dear to my heart and we'll see what you think.
Hi, Hannah and Des.
So something from childhood that I think today's kids are missing out on is eating sugary
cereals and feeling good about it.
I feel like it was very acceptable growing up.
in the 90s to have things like cookie crisp, lucky charms, French toast crunch, fruity pebbles,
Reese's puffs, all those amazing cereals, but also had equally amazing commercials, as my memory
recalls.
You could eat those for breakfast and you could feel good about it.
It was part of your complete breakfast or some shit like that.
And I just miss those carefree days of starting my day off with tons of sugar.
And this is coming from a kid who grew up with type 1 diabetes.
My mom still fed me to stuff.
So, yeah, miss those days.
That's what they make insulin for.
Okay, thanks, bye.
That is so funny, because there wasn't even a murmur that it was bad for you.
Not a murmur.
Like, nothing of the back of your head.
And I remember.
But I do think that how bad they are for you has been exaggerated.
But I'm not saying we should go back to, like, pushing sugar cereals on kids,
but I also don't think it's as evil as they're making out.
I do have to say, if my milk did not turn into chocolate milk by the,
The end of the cereal?
I don't want it.
Listen, I'm Coco for Cocoa.
Everybody knows it.
Everybody knows it.
I wanted to fucking slurp some chocolate ice cream at the end of that.
Yeah, tricks are for kids.
Yeah, and I wanted a crazy, coaxed out animal to be the voice of it.
It is funny, though, I, commercials were so good.
I remember it was like you'd watch your cartoon, and then the commercials were just, like,
kids having the most fun ever because of cereal or because of this toy.
Yes.
Or it was just like a such.
a fun world. Count chocolate, man. TV was fun back in the day. Yeah, man. I mean,
fruity pebbles. Does fruity pebbles still exist? I think so, but yeah, I didn't know till
college that like three bowls of cap and crunch was bad. But here's the thing. My mother
was, she would let us have sugary cereal sometimes, but like, I, there was a clear division
between sugary cereals and healthy cereals. But what's really interesting is in the modern day,
we realized that none of them were, they all had sugar.
They thought Raisin Brand was healthy.
Yeah, I mean, we ate so much, I'm still a Raisin Brand addict to this day.
I remember there was this, there was this guy, like, on the basketball team or something.
He, like, hooked up with one of my roommates in college, and we're all eating breakfast
in the morning, and we got Raisin Brand, and he's taking the raisins out of the raisin brand.
I was like, what the fuck are you doing?
And he's like, all my trainer told me, like, the raisins are bad for me.
And I was like, it's fruit.
It's a fruit.
It's good for you.
And he was like, no, it's not good for you.
And I was like, you're crazy, dude.
You've lost your mind.
But the thing is that the whole, taking the raisins out, it's just nonsense.
I mean, yeah, raisins are a lot of sugar, but like whatever.
My mom got me, I was on the Kashi train in high school because I liked Kashi.
What's Kashi?
It's basically like health, it tastes like dirt, but like a little bit of sweetness.
I love that shit.
But, you know, I mean, all the cereals that I like ended up being full.
That's crazy.
crazy. That's just a candy bar.
That's just a candy bar. So much of that stuff was just candy.
Smoors?
Yeah, but that is a candy, smores.
But in my head, I was like, it's important breakfast.
But then you go to, like, Italy, and, like, they're having cake for breakfast,
but I guess it's just, like, healthier ingredients.
So they're...
Well, this is the...
Listen, man.
I mean, I think more and more studies will come out and we'll find out the exact level
of how much this stuff is a problem.
I just want to know, am I supposed to be eating regular sugar or fake sugar?
What's better?
I think it's all about moderation.
Okay.
But I will say that I'm glad I'm from a gym.
Because obviously, we were never fat, you know?
So this is the whole thing is they talk about all this stuff
in relation to the obesity crisis, but we were not fat.
I ate a lot of lucky charms.
It was our patriotic duty to the lepracons to eat lucky charms.
I ate a lot of lucky charms.
I ate a lot of honeycombs.
Honeycombs was so good before they got soggy.
No one would.
Oh, let's go through the list.
Yeah.
Which cereals were better soggy
And which ones were better not soggy
Because in my opinion,
Raisin brand got better as it got sagier
Yes, yes
But like
You can't honey honey honey
Toasted crunches toast oats
Honey yeah
What is it called?
Honey bunches of oats
The second it will get soggy
Which gets soggy very quickly
I was like I can't do this
Yeah golden grams I preferred crunchy
Honeycombs I hated when it got soggy
We had a big
in Ireland, I prefer when it got waterlogged.
Yes, suck. Waterlogged. It needs to be tortured.
I do have to say, um, what was I going to say?
I don't know. I should have never put cereal on because I knew that it would take up
the whole pot. I'm very passionate about cereal.
I'm very passionate about cereal too. My sister-in-law always said that our family, like, all
we did was eat cereal. I mean, there was a time in our lives where like breakfast,
lunch, and dinner, I could just have cereal. I mean, it's the perfect
it's perfect but I used to have the most regular movements of all time like it's insane
but like even like some of the musli movements do you mean bowel yeah even some of the musli I was
eating that was just full of sugar I mean I was basically just yeah granola a lot of sugar
yeah and I still to stay but what am I going to do I love Greek yogurt and granola yes you think
I'm the problem yeah we weren't fat I know you know I know I'm not railing against modern
you know modern dietary habits but I'm saying that it can't just be
the sugary cereal
because none of my friends
were fat
and we're all eating that shit
because Frosted Lucky Charms
are magically delicious
Do you remember Snapcraggle Pop?
Rice Krispies
but even Rice Krispies
is full of sugar.
True.
I remember making Rice Krispy treats
that was so fun for class.
I do have to say
that no one talks about
the depression
that happens when you have
Lucky Charms
and you realize you ate
all the marshmallows
and you're just stuck
with the plane
and you're like
I actually like
the plane, too. And I used to like Alphabets. Alphabits was basically Lucky Charms without the
marshmallows. You know? You know, you could buy just marshmallows now. They have, that came out.
I actually, you know, I've eaten Lucky Charms in my adulthood. Wouldn't be my go-to. Yeah.
My reminiscent, the cereals that I love to go back to are cinnamon toast crunch.
I like cocoa pops in Ireland, which is actually Cocoa Krispies in America. But Irish
Irish Coco Popps are
unbelievable.
Look, I'm a Captain Crunch girl through and through.
Cap and Crunch Barry's not. I can't. We talked
We actually posted a video. I love it.
It destroys the roof of your mouth.
It's literally an assault.
I'm bringing up Captain Crunch
on assault. He's being
court-martialed. Captain, you've
being court-martialed.
Because it's, it's, there's no...
What do we love now, the squares?
We like life.
We eat life cereal now because we're adults.
Because Mikey likes it.
Who's Mikey?
Mikey was the big campaign for life cereal.
Oh, okay.
That was an ad man.
I do have to say, my generation knows about the 80s because of the VH1 stuff.
Oh, right.
What was it called?
Like the 80s?
I don't know.
I live the 80s.
I love the 80s.
And it was, I posted this recently.
It was the thing that was like, these people raised me.
And the comics who were the talking heads.
Richard...
Oh, who was that comic?
It was like...
Oh, you met him.
Chuck Nice, right?
Didn't you say Chuck Nice was on it?
Lonely Love was one of them.
And it was like, we love the 90s
and they would explain like we're dummies
but funny of what happened
before we were born.
So I remember the 80s and 90s
were like always playing.
All right, let's...
Oh, God.
There's just so many.
I even can't.
Let's...
This might be...
This is not relevant to me,
but I think it's relevant to you.
So let's, let me see.
I think the children now are missing out on Tomogacchi's.
Those things were so fun.
Remember, like, getting home from school
and immediately going to a Tamagachi to feed it.
Like, those were the good old days.
Oh, my gosh.
No, having a Tamagachi was so cool.
I mean, I remember Tomogachi's existing,
but I actually cannot remember a thing about what they did.
Well, you were too old, but the thing is you had to keep it alive.
It was just a really fun game
where you'd have to feed it
and it would get tired
and I know you just had to do stuff
and like your tomagotchi would die
if you weren't taking care of it
but then it evolved to like
an online thing where you'd have
these different tamagachis
that you were keeping alive
and like saying it out loud now
it sounds so stupid
I remember playing like Carmen San Diego online
these games that once they got online
I remember there was like a restaurant game
that Daniel and I would play
it was so fun
but then there was always a moment
where like your computer would
crash, and then you would just lose everything.
Yeah, and your family would die.
It's very dramatic.
Nintendo, like, the battery would fall out, and we'd be on, like, level 256, we'd
have to start from scratch.
I mean, even just, like, when you were...
Because you couldn't save games back in the day.
I mean, then I've been talking about this on stage recently about, like, millennials, why
we have TMJ, the trauma of...
What's TMJ?
Besides 9-11.
Trauma?
It's like your jaw is clenched all the time.
Oh, right.
Okay.
How, when you'd write an essay.
say, and it would freeze, you just lost the essay.
Like, it was gone, and this would happen all the time.
You'd be, like, four pages in, and, like, essays gone.
Yes.
And you would just, like, cry, and that was...
It would happen all the time, because it was, like, the technology wasn't ready yet
to, like, save stuff automatically.
As I told you, I never typed a report.
I never typed anything from my education until my history dissertation and my final year of
college.
Everything else was handwritten.
That's crazy.
education.
Was your handwriting
considered good?
I mean, it was legible.
Yeah.
You know?
Wow.
So.
Crazy.
Yeah, I remember the
Tamagachi phenomenon,
but I never got into it.
So let me ask you this.
Just knowing you.
It was cute like you had it around.
Knowing you.
Yes, I was competitive about it.
Okay, so
how long did you keep them alive?
Oh.
I don't remember
particularly being good about it,
but I remember being like...
Because basically what I'm thinking is,
if we have kids,
then I'm going to have to turn it
into a competition?
Is that what you're saying?
Because you got it.
Let's keep all kid alive more than the neighbors.
Longer than the neighbors.
Let's see if we can not lose our kid before the next kid.
What's your child's name?
Well, his first name is Tommy and his middle name is Gatchy.
Why?
I needed to keep Hannah interesting.
The thing is, I like Pokemon better because it was like really competitive.
Was it?
Got to catch him.
it was about like you had it was it was a genius like multi-level marketing scheme or like
it was about capturing Pokemon so you'd you'd see a Pokemon but you had to beat it with the
current Pokemon you have and you have to do a war and if you beat it then you'd catch it
and it was just this collecting that never ended because they kept adding more Pokemon
you'd have to keep getting better oh yeah I didn't get the Pokemon thing remember the thing about
like five or six years ago oh yeah Pokemon Go Pokemon Go that was insane and it was like
for a month it was everything and then it disappeared yeah
Because when we were playing golf at the golf course
And one of the staff, one of the bad guys
You know, we're all friends
Suddenly he's like whipping around a car
I was like, what are you doing?
He's like, there's a goat
There's a Pokemon out here.
I was like, what?
Well then people were like,
This is actually good for people getting
their mental health steps in
Because everyone was walking around
Yeah, but then didn't people like get run over and shit?
Yeah, I don't know what happened with that
But it is this like collecting thing that's cool
You're like you get this like dopamine high
But yeah, it was harder to get a dope.
dopamine high back then.
But it was
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We're moving along here.
Now this is one, I feel like this is more like adolescence.
Somebody misses from their adolescence that I think is going to resonate with you.
Hi, hi, does.
Hi, Hannah.
Love the pot.
I love you guys.
something from my childhood
that I think this generation is missing out on
well it's not really childhood because I wasn't small
but
I'm in school right now
so half of my grade are like 19 and 20 year olds
for like dental
so anyway so
I think they're missing out on the fact that
Instagram in the past
they don't know old Instagram
when you were able to see
who saw who picture who liked what picture and commented on the history and like everything you were able to verify what your man or your girl was doing
and also that goes with snapchat now it's just like sending pictures no snapchat before you were able to
like press down on your friend and you were able to see their top three best friends that they've been snapping so
if your friend partner or whatever was snapchatting some of the girl guys
you were able to see their top three friends Snapchat
and be like, oh, well, who's this person?
I just thought it was funny
because I actually came about in my class
the other day at dental school
and these little kids just did not know
what that was.
I was like, you guys are missing out.
Yeah, I forgot about that Instagram in those early days
was tracking your, well, making your behavior a lot more known.
I feel like it wasn't even that long ago
where you could still see on Instagram
what people were liking.
Yeah, I think it was like six or...
It was like activity.
I feel like it wasn't six.
I feel like it was like four years ago.
You could still see people's activity.
Okay, well, I'm going to just say that
I think it's probably longer
because everything, the pandemic has shortened time.
And every time I think something was only four years ago,
it was six or seven years ago.
You're right, you're right.
That's open.
I remember Facebook when it would tell you
profile views so you would refresh it and be like oh my god three more people looked at my profile
and you would just like keep refreshing it to see like who's looking at profile but yeah snapchat i
remember well snapchat was great and then they they ruined it or it was always insane yeah but there
was a timer it was just like simpler to use yeah and then they i don't know they did something that
made it harder to use it because i remember that's when i stopped using it because i was like they and it never
really came, I know it's kind of back now, sort of, but. People joke that it's when
Kylie Jenner was like, no one's on Snapchat anymore. But that's true. Yeah. She kind of ruined
Snapchat. Well, now it's a thing again, but it'll never be what it was, which was just like
you and your friends posting snaps and all your friends looking at it and then you being out
at night and sending to certain people, certain stories of what's going on. I was, I was, those
stories, man, I was killing it. Like, I was even like, I, there was like an Irish Times article
like who to follow on Snapchat.
Oh my God.
Des Bishops always making stories.
And then it just disappeared.
Well, you know what it was?
Snapchat was hopping because
Instagram didn't have Instagram stories.
Yeah, well.
And I remember when Instagram came with Instagram stories,
we all went, okay, so you're just copying Snapchat.
This is stupid.
Now I don't even think about the fact that Instagram stories
was actually a Snapchat.
But what happened is now we're like,
I'm not going to do an Instagram story and a snap.
But at the time, we're like Instagram just copying it,
but it's like Instagram knew they were going to,
they were trying to take over.
You know, it's a dirty.
It's a dirty game. But it reminds me of MySpace
Top 8. Do you remember MySpace top 8?
Of course I do. That was
fucked up. That was just having bridesmaids
every day. Yes. I didn't
have to experience that drama to the same extent.
Did you experience when people
would be in relationships on Facebook?
Yeah, yeah. And then it was like in a relationship
or it's complicated. A huge thing.
Like that was, it was all about
when are they being Facebook official.
Yeah, and their status changed. Oh, our status
changed. I have this
funny story. It was actually with the
mascot and I had to bring him up but I was drunk one night and we like it was like early on and I go we don't have
I was like I like I like you but like we're not like Facebook officially yeah but people always say
Instagram official now well now there's do you know about soft launches and hard launches so that's like a
whole thing yeah but Instagram official I guess is yeah when you post them are we Instagram official
we've been Instagram official kind of we're married
People don't know, though.
People, do people, are people surprised when they found out you're married?
What?
All the time I get messages, I didn't know you were married.
Oh, I don't, you know, I don't have the same amount of people interested in my life these days.
So, this one is deep.
Oh.
And I saved it for now because I feel like this is the core.
This is the essence of what's behind all this.
This might get, like, deeper than I think you might.
might have been asking for, but hear me out. Seeing something for the first time without having
any preconceived notions from the internet. Like not having any idea that something exists at all
until you arrive and see it. Like I remember as a kid, my parents took me to Yellowstone and I had
never, like, I don't think I ever knew what a waterfall was. Like, or maybe somebody had
described it to me, but like I'd never seen a picture. Like, I just remember going to Yellowstone
and being so in awe of a waterfall. And like, we're just so desensitized. Like, if it exists,
odds are we know about it. And you, like, never get to discover something that's so ordinary,
but it feels magical because you just did know it existed at all. And, like, seeing it with your
eyes for the first time like roller coasters or i don't know like i think about that all the time
with like disney world well nowadays you can go and watch the video of every roller coaster in the
park but like when i first rolled up to disney world with my parents when i was seven years old i had
no idea what a roller coaster was what i was into what i was like what i was in for is what i meant
to say just crazy that like i said sorry i'm rambling if it exists we know about it and that's
very good point
and not to get even darker
but seeing something you think is cool
and not immediately thinking
how do I show people what I'm seeing
that too yeah that's part of it for sure
even though I do have to say I love creating content
so it's fun for me but like there is a beauty
of not having the burden
to be like if a tree falls in a forest
and you don't post it on Snapchat did it fall
well it's not just the burden it's also
the fact that the experience of filming
it takes you out of the actual
experiencing of it. It's like concerts.
Like, people used to just watch concerts.
Yes.
And now I don't know why people film concerts
because it looks horrible on the camera.
But she's 100% right.
I do have to say, as someone who is lazy,
I joke that I do enjoy the algorithm
telling me what they think I'll like,
where I should go to eat, what I should visit.
I've gotten way more into fashion because of TikTok,
because I'm visual and I can see all this stuff
where if you're just at home,
you have to like read articles back then.
No, but also it is just great to have not had the option
to research as much.
So you had to just experience.
And therefore, you were more open to surprise.
Obviously on the flip side,
you're also more open to like wasting time
things that are disappointing.
Or not knowing
something ever existed.
But it's like, for example, I haven't been to the ERIS
tour. I would like to, but like, I kind
of get it.
Like, I've seen
a billion videos.
Yeah, but I mean, like, look, we went
to the MEC game last week and, like,
you say you get it, but when you're in there, you
do feel something. You're so right, yeah.
So I think if you went to the ERIS tour, you would
feel something. I've never been a big concert
person, but. But, yeah,
Like, I, there's just time, I remember, you know, doing some traveling before.
There was as much information.
So I do think that you're more open to being really surprised by something in the past.
But I do, it's 100% pros and cons.
But I do think that, like, the wonder that she's, that she's talking about,
perhaps there's less of that now because you really know what you do.
I also think that here's the other side of that, which is like,
I feel like sometimes you have no faith in a place
unless it's like reviewed.
Yeah, yeah.
Which is unfortunate.
Oh, no one talked about on TikTok.
Yeah, or like you Google Map and, you know,
then you go like, oh, no, there's no reviews on this place.
But it's like...
But then the ones with a ton of reviews
either have like great marketing,
sometimes it's like they suck,
but they've been putting money into marketing.
Yeah, they're good on the review.
Or they had something go viral because it looks cute,
but it doesn't actually taste good.
I also
someone was talking about fashion recently
on how the algorithms ruined fashion
and how every girl
in New York looks like the same
girl with the same hairdo
and same earrings and she's like
New York fashion used to be like so
experimental where you go outside and you see
everyone's different
but it's also like
Was that the TikTok of people walking down West Third Street by the cellar?
No
I guess there was just somebody like
walking down West Third and it was like
next to the line of people going into the village underground
and then all these people passing and everyone was like
everybody looks the same. New York used to have like fashion and weird people
and now everyone's just the same. Yeah, which I don't necessarily agree
with. I just think trends before were you had to do more
research where now everyone could hop on the trends and there's affordable fashion and stuff
like that. But look, people are trying to express themselves so let's not get
judgy. Oh hey, I'm not judging anybody, man.
So we do one more?
Mm-hmm.
Okay. What are we going to finish with?
No pressure.
There's so many.
You can do another episode.
I really think we could do another episode
because there's just so many.
But since you brought it up, we'll finish with this
because it's already come up and we didn't discuss it.
But I also want to discuss the fact that I am not
100% sure it's actually as different as we think.
So I'm going to play this.
Hi, Hannah. Hi, hi, Des.
One thing that I think children these days are missing out on is commercials.
I think that we fell in love with so many different ideas of toys just by watching commercials in between cartoons and also became experts using the go-back button on the remote to flip between different shows anytime I'm.
a commercial would play.
And kids these days just don't have to deal that way.
So how do they ever decide, like, what they want for their birthday
or what they want for Christmas without commercials?
Just my thoughts.
Love you.
Bye.
So the Saturday morning cartoons of my generate.
Do you remember Saturday morning cartoons?
And all those commercials.
And we had, the reason why I want to play this,
we had a lot of people talking about toy commercials.
But aren't there commercials popping up on these YouTube videos that these kids are watching?
Yes.
There is, right?
And also now it's like you just, you Google toys for my six-year-old on, you Google on TikTok.
And it comes up.
And then the kid is seeing, yeah, wherever the kid's eyes are, the ads are there.
But like when they go on Disney Plus, or they go on Netflix and they watch their shows, there's no commercials.
But I'm assuming on like Miss Rachel on YouTube, like the commercials are popping up, right?
Yeah.
Like, how are the kids...
This might be crazy,
but are there fewer toys nowadays
because they have iPads?
Wow, Hannah.
I think you might be right.
Like, is it...
Toys aren't as in demand
because they're just playing games.
Because I remember, like,
laser tag was...
Oh my God, yeah.
The present of whatever year in the 80s
and we were like,
we have to get laser tag for Christmas.
And I think my brothers definitely
were still in the believing in Santa category.
Yeah.
And my father always tells the story that he could not get laser tag anywhere.
And then somehow at like the 11th hour, F.A.O. Schwartz, around the corn from Burberry got a delivery.
He like had to wait till like 9 p.m. waited for fucking laser tag.
Yeah.
And like got us laser tag.
Oh my God.
And then laser tag was one of the great disappointed.
Total bullshit toy.
Yes.
Like never really registered the thing.
But anyway, that was a cabbage patch kids.
But the fucking commercial for laser tag was sick.
Oh my God.
But cabbage patch kids.
That was a must-have.
Does that still happen?
Because we don't have kids, so we don't know.
Twister.
Yeah, Twister was never like a must-have.
It was just a constant.
It was just, you had to have Twister.
I just remember, you remember, guess who?
Yeah, guess who, yeah.
Oh, Battlefield?
Battleship.
Battleship.
My brother and I love Battleship.
You sunk my battleship.
That was so, I loved playing those games.
Yeah, but every Christmas there was like a hot toy.
So basically, I'm asking the question.
True, true.
Does that still happen?
I wonder
I wonder
Yeah this is not our demo
I mean kids still play with toys
For sure
We're gonna learn as Lois gets older
Or if we pop one out
Or is the toys just gotten so
So online
Online or just like
No I think they still like
Is there anything like Lois is like must have that
Well don't the little girls
She got like a whole kitchen set
My Little Pony they love do they?
Okay so they're
there used to be this fairy Barbie thing
that you pull and it just like shoots up
like it was so dangerous.
Dangerous.
Yeah, like I would just pull it
and it would fly and just like knock over shit
and I thought it was the most fun thing ever.
I had a lot of my little ponies.
I had
I would just,
then I would just like play dress up all the time.
Did you have the oven?
Okay, easy bake oven?
Yeah.
That is so unsafe.
Yeah, it doesn't exist.
exist anymore, right? Yeah, because it was probably burning
down houses. Somebody messaged in about the easy
bake oven. What I remember... Somebody messaged
in saying, toys used to be dangerous
and that was good, it toughened us up. I remember
yeah, it's so dangerous. One of
the toys that I loved, we went to
like Costco or something, and there were only like
two left were razor scooters.
And I remember it was expensive.
Yeah, well, that's not that longer, because
Kieran, my nephew... I think they've
held... Yeah, because Kieran, my nephew
had to get a razor at one stage. But talk about
the way they could, like, spin, right?
So you'd hit your shin with it and just gash your knee open.
And then we would, in Park Slope, we weren't on the road.
Like, we didn't have, like, a neighborhood.
We were going down the sidewalk.
So the second you'd see a sidewalk that was not perfect,
you were like, oh, shit.
And then you'd just flip off it when you'd hit the edge of the sidewalk.
By the way, can we discuss something?
Slinky's never really worked, right?
Slinkies, like, on Slinkies, it should have said,
hey you have to have the perfect
fucking pitch and depth
of stairs for this fucking
slinky to make it down the stairs
and by the way because you're a child
and you have no concept of looking after things
you're going to fucking pull it and
fucking break it within 24 hours
also
Beanie babies were big and Furbies
Which were creepy one came in
It's creepy. Ferbies are creepy
Cabbage kids are creepy a lot of creep
Oh I liked
is it the all-American girl
American girl dolls?
Oh, right, yeah.
So you could get one that dressed just like you.
So I have like every girl I feel like had a photo of her
dressed an outfit with a little mini-me.
But like then that was it.
Like you got the photo and you're like cool.
Later on people like Build a Bear.
I think Build a Bear is still a thing.
Yeah, I don't know that one.
I'm going to play.
We're done, right?
But I want to play this one because I want to see if you remember this toy
because when I heard this,
I was like, oh, my God, I forgot about those stupid fucking things.
Okay, this is a really niche thing that we had as kids,
but do you guys remember those little, like, tubes that were squishy
and they were full of this mysterious liquid and sparkles?
And for whatever reason, they never popped, but you could, like, put your arm in,
they were like, I don't know, maybe six inches long, and I don't know,
know what the purpose of them was, but we
had them as kids, and they were
endless entertainment for
a child with ADD.
Oh, yeah, I forgot those. We need those back.
I bet they got banned because of the
mysterious liquid, and, like, if you popped it,
like, what was in it?
I bet you they still exist.
And, I mean, mine was, like, blue with sparkle,
so I've, I don't, I never popped,
though, but I bet if it did it would stain
the carpet. That's what this
generation needs. Stupid
toys to keep kids
entertained.
Take away the cell phones, give them bags of mysterious liquid that they can bite and chew
and might have like a little plastic shark in it and fish in it too.
That's what they need.
Mysterious bags of liquid and shit.
We're laughing because we kept thinking it was over.
It was so, it felt so good to kind of squeeze it and then it would fall out of your hand.
I always thought that toy was a joke toy because you're just.
can't actually hold it.
Yeah, I don't know what it was for, but I think it definitely, if you,
but I don't think that's, I think it still exists.
It might.
I think that's just one of these toys that just, you, you don't, you're not around
anymore unless you have kids.
Yeah.
I mean, I, I, I did Google once, like, stuff that's been banned and how, like, a lot
of stuff got banned, like, tickle me out, Elmo, because, like, did we ever admit on
air that you were wrong about Pogo sticks?
Did we ever?
I don't even know what the argument was, but I don't think I was wrong.
You said that they, they're, they don't exist anymore.
Just that it's not popular.
You don't see kids out of it.
outside with pogoing.
I'm not saying it's illegal.
Yeah, but anyway, it turns out there actually,
I got a lot of messages after that episode.
But also what she's saying, she's like, we need stupid shit.
Remember, recently we had fidget spinners.
Yeah.
That was, like, huge.
Fidget spinners are similar to that, actually.
Yeah, but also my, like, joke that I would say is,
do you remember snap bracelets?
Oh, God, snap bracelets?
So I say, if you like snap bracelets, that's a kid,
now you're into BDSM.
Nice.
Well, anyway, hey,
hey it's great to have you back on the pod
Thank you for having me back
That's based on your name
Thanks for having me back
Ask me any time
And thank you guys
Well no you do the ending now
Oh I do the ending well
First of hey
I'm in Brea Improv this Friday
I'm also in Sacramento
On Thursday
But that's actually
That's gonna be pretty full
But Brea Improv was a late head
So it's a huge venue
Where is Brea?
It's in Orange County
It's in the O.C.
So, Brea, California.
Also, we have Madison, Milwaukee, Minneapolis coming up.
For Gigli?
For Gigli?
For Gigli in the next couple weeks.
Okay.
And I'm also back in Ireland, Sligo.
Wow, I can't believe I'm pushing my Irish states now.
I'm in Sligo.
Most of those dates are sold out, but the Sligo venue is huge.
And there's tickets left, which is soon, like the 24th of October.
But anyway, go on my website, and that's really it.
We'll see you guys. Oh, and Hannah will be here when she's here, but I have some great guest hosts lined up for the days that Hannah can't be here. So don't abandon Burn a phone. Stay tuned. We'll see you soon.
Love you guys. Bye.