Berner Phone - Blakely Thornton: Weak Dick Game & Diamonds

Episode Date: November 18, 2020

CEO of CiViL Jewelry, Blakely Thornton, is redefining luxury and making us laugh our asses off. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

God forbid she can compare dick sizes. God forbid. No, like, Sean, you're just mad because your dip game is weak. You have no hip action. You have stiff hips. You need to stretch your hip flexors, bro. You can go to yoga and go to therapy. That's what you do.

Welcome to Burning Hell. We have an exciting one today. start i just want to let you guys know that in hell today we had to use zoom because it's hell and we're in a pandemic so we had to use zoom the audio isn't quite as crisp as you guys are used to but it's still a fucking great episode i hope you enjoy we have a very special guest in hell today we have blakely thornton did i pronounce it right yes you did yes correct on the first try because they were a lot of the r n and t are all together and intimidated me you are like kind of intimidating because we first met when we were like working at a similar co-working space or whatever by like fuck jerry media

exactly and you have resting like i'm really busy face that is that i mean i i truly do part of it is unintentional but i think in a co-working space with like 15 white bros like part of it's like it's just i'm thinking the things in my head that i don't want to say out loud like i have like you know, when they're like, oh, this chick, this bitch, oh, my girl. And I'm just like, I feel like I'm a rare bird where I'm like a gay man in a straight world, but also like I have the same capacity for violence. So I feel like they were, I was just like looking to keep from like punching or kicking or hitting or just like telling people about themselves in a way that makes them consider

their own masculinity. I feel like they're a little ready for that. You always have an internal dialogue in your head that like is so fucking entertaining it's funny because I was always scared of you in the office not because it was just you seemed super busy or you would like show up like you definitely just worked out and you were like I just worked out I'm super busy and it's only like 8 a.m. Or when you would like go to the bathroom you were like fast. It was fast walking. That was. There was a lot of like I didn't realize that and you are maybe the fourth or fifth person to tell me that I was incredibly frightening in the office.

It's not what I meant to do but I think I would come I mean I think I would I think also my sartorial choices were part of that too. I'd come in with like black overalls with no shirt and like and like pumas and like white sunglasses and just like I felt like I was trying to enter like Miranda Priestley every day and give the effects to straight white men gain to white girls. Like I wanted them to be scared. I wanted to throw my jacket on their desk. I wanted to be like who is doing work for me today and if you come from me and say something stupid about black or gay people like I'm just going to eviscerate you because that dialogue like I dare you you were like I dare someone to make a comment because I'm fucking ready like I dare you to cross me today I will read your ass so hard

but on the other end it also I realized it ended up where like if I did make a compliment it would like make one of their weeks if I was like oh like Josh you look good today he'd be like I do and like do like a pretty pretty princess spin so like I realize you could you can catch as many flies with like sugar. Well, it's funny, as a gay man, do you feel like straight guys sometimes assume that like if they're hot, you'd be into them? Where a lot of the time it's like, no.

Well, I think that's the opening is like, one, not to be like a complete cunt, but like straight men don't keep themselves up. So like there's maybe like 2% out of the whole gen pop that I would fuck with to begin with. Yeah. And they end like, and I let you know through those nonverbal destruction eyes

that you're not in it so like I feel like that helps us grow as people because you're like oh you might like me and I'm like you're not cute like I'm much cuter than you and like just let's just keep it like I can help you dress I can help you kind of try to like tighten and get it together or be husky because we're body positive in this world

but like I'm only interested in you're an interesting person like I wouldn't fuck you with a 10 foot pole and I think that establish it from the beginning that like you know the hierarchy who's attractive in the office and then they're Okay. So how did you end up working with so many bros?

It just, I feel like I made the mistake of being closeted through college and playing football. Well, I will, bringing me back, you have a very impressive resume. So you went to UPenn, Wharton School of Business, double major, and you were a fullback on the football team. I was. Were you fucking bitches? Unfortunately, yes. I am not, you know, if you're going to go deep cover, you've got to, like, you got to do it. Like, it wasn't that an idiot.

It was like, maybe three, but it's like. You did enough to, like, shut the guys up. Exactly. You didn't have to, like, kind of, like, keep it questionable. Like, let's get real. Like, me being on the football team was a fucking comedy of errors. They'd be, like, in the fucking, like, team, like, screaming when they lift. And I was like, I need complete silence and or Riannas don't stop the music.

that is what I require. And they were like... But it's also, like, you're extremely smart and you're obviously extremely athletic. Were you presenting yourself in a type of way that you hated? It was an interesting thing because, like, one, I only started playing football because I was a little smarty brat.

I was a competitive tennis player growing up. And then around 14 or 15, my coach is like, you need to either, like, go to a farm in, like, Florida and play or you're never going to play like at Stanford. And I was like, because you know, you played tennis. Like all those. So at 14, I went to Florida. See?

And I was just like, ooh, Florida. Like, is there any. Oh, it sucked. It was terrible. And I was like, Florida. Yeah. So then my junior year in high school, I was like, well, I want to like, I was basically like, I want to go to an Ivy League school and I've gotten a C in Spanish

my sophomore year. And I was like, football is easy. So I picked out football, my junior year of high school. And they got recruited by like some D1 schools, decided between Harvard and Penn. Went to Penn. And I feel like the athletic side of it was fun because I'm psychotically competitive, although not in a football term. Like tennis is like boxing or like a psychosis. You know you talk to yourself. Like I don't play well with others. Like my sister was better than me. She was like ranked

like Topkin in Texas 12 when she was eight. But she always wanted like teamwork and competitive and like combat. And I was like no. I want to like. Life is a single player game and let's play it for what it is. Yeah. I want to crush you, shake your hand and watch you walk away crying on the court. I actually got a rep called me when I was 13 because I was, I've been six feet since I was 13 and he wanted to ask for my birth certificate, which was a very like, Serena Williams racist moment. And I was like, I walked up and I was like, you're just mad because I'm being the shit out of your son. And he was like, what? And then he called the referee at this junior tournament on me, the 13 year old child for like heckling him the parent. And I for it, you can,

you can call Janice Thornton my mother about this because she was very, like, like, laughing about it. The nastiness that parents have when their kid is losing, like, they throw all sportsmanship and morals out the window. Out the window. Out the window. I've had, I've had, they're wild, but, like, I enjoy that. Like, I get off on that, which is why I still have kept up with tennis. I was like, ooh, this white parents getting mad. But it's also that you are now, it's like, oh, is Karen angry that her daughter's backhand is a piece of shit? Exactly. I love that you've become an entrepreneur, though,

because I think we're similar in that way. Did you always want to be an entrepreneur? I think after working for other people, the first few years at a college, I was like, this boss shit is for the birds. I was like, ooh, I was like, this girl's going to come in here, or this dude's going to come in here and tell me what I'm going to do, and what I'm going to do it?

No. So it took me a while to get through that. So I actually worked at, well, because I grabbed, in 2008 and then of course that first great financial crisis happened and I actually got my first job because my cousin used to run retail for MoMA and she was 20 years older than me because my dad's one of 10 and I ended up meeting mayor Bloomberg at the MoMA party in the garden he'd given the commencement speech at Penn and I said hey I really like your speech and he said oh great what are you doing and I said nothing there's a financial crisis and he said oh

here's my business card tell them how when we met and I ended up working at Bloomberg financial for my first job. Oh my gosh. Then they all hated me because I thought I was like Robert Johnson from VET's billionaire some that sometimes you're near at Bloomberg. So like they all kept me like I was a complete fucking asshole for two years. Have you ever, when was the first time you felt that you like found a group of people that you fit in with? Because it sounds like you grew up in Dallas. Yeah. We're playing the tennis world, which is primarily rich and white and annoying. And then then you're with like finance bros. And then now you're with like finance bros. And then now you're with these bro bros, frat bros.

So like, or do you just not care to fit in? I feel like also socially outside, I found like the people, like, I feel the first time was at Penn, there's a whole community of like private school black kids that find each other at college. So it's like, oh, you went to Brentwood Country Day. Oh, you went to Chote.

And we have this collective experiences of being like black and white spaces. So I feel like you get really close that way. So like I've always had this close to be in like, Do you know what this stupid bitch said to me at Barnings? She thought I worked here. Like this fucking bitch thought I worked here. I'm here for brunch.

Like, so there's like, like, like, like, we have a classism problem. But like it's, but it's like, you know. But like all the microaggressions you can just bond. Oh, yeah. We have a, I have a group called text called Ralph Lauren Black label that used to work at Ralph Lauren. We just talk shit about people at work and after work. Like, did you see this bitch put this in the campaign or like one, you know,

biracial curly hair. child and being like diversity and we're like fuck Karen, fuck Karen in her stupid lay out. Do you feel accepted in black spaces coming from a black guy that's been in white spaces primarily? I feel like traditionally like maybe up to like 2014-15 there was an and there was an issue of like not being black enough or you know or you know black I think the black community does have an overall problem with accepting queerness as well what we're still working on. But it was even funny when I came up to my parents,

like my dad was like, I called him like during pride, like all like worked out and I was also like very, very drunk. But I was like, guess what, dad? And he's like, is that it? Like, I'm playing dominoes. And I was like, oh shit, this was a fucking waste. So then like, and then I called my mom afterwards. And then my mom in like traditional Janice Thornton fashion,

she is like the diva bitch of the universe. And I love you, Janice. Happy birthday. Shout out to Janus. Shout out to Janus. But she was like, why wouldn't you tell me I'm super cool like your other friends didn't like completely made it about her she's like I'm not that type of mom I'm a cool mom yeah she was like I'm a cool mom and we could have like

gone shopping together and this could have found you a boyfriend faster like you know how long adoption takes and now you're already in your fucking late 20s early 30s like this is going to take forever wait did they have no idea my mom fucking knew I mean like come like parents have to know but she couldn't force you like I feel like she was just like like all right cool you'll come out on your own time but she also my mom in true mom fashion she was like i knew because like you were that attractive and you didn't have a girlfriend so i was just she was like oh my god she's amazing she's like you were literally perfect and you didn't have 10 girlfriends she was like i just didn't see any girls around and like you were just too cute to

like not be fucking around so i don't know i was like oh thanks mom i'm fascinated by in college like how and why did you hook up with the girls you hooked up with oh because they were just aggressive as fuck like obviously i'm not trying to like go out there and like fuck like like i mean you're just like oh cool i'm straight this is fun this is what i want awesome yeah then it just be like one night you're like all right cool like if i need to like put a body between me in suspicion then like cool this'll do but like that happened like once a year did you have any hookups on the down low with guys no i honestly didn't do anything until i came out. It was just a lot of porn sadness.

Did you feel like you're definitely a type A personality? Do you think that you kind of like put that identity, sexual identity, anxiety into like all your work and your sports and your school? Exactly. I feel like you know you were saying like tennis like you know

type A like I can compartmentalize and for me it was like okay it does not serve me and the difficulty of my life when you're in like a really hard school a psychotic sport that gives you concussions to like deal with it, to like, you know, deal with this. Like, I'm already like black and a white space, crazy-ass school, crazy-ass sport. Like, let's do with this.

So much pressure. Yeah. And now it's just, like, change who I am that society doesn't fully accept probably. Exactly. And then I think the risk of like, okay, I can like, I was just like, all right, in this space, like, obviously, like, you're playing football, you get money producers for playing football. Am I going to make this space now fucking toxic for myself? Because, like, great.

Like, I would love to say that, like, I'm. the bravest. You know, I would have been the MLK of college football. And like, you're like, no, I wasn't trying to get called F one every day or have a separate thing, have people beat me in the shower or like whatever. Because you know what? Real talk, first day at football. I'm going to tell this story for the first time in the public. I'm not going to name names. First day at Penn Football. It was like, football camp, you go three weeks early. And I guess if like one freshman's like kind of good or like you kind of like, I don't know, you embarrass the senior or the coaches like you,

the senior said to play a prank on you. So this prank is we're all in the shower, and I have never showered with other men before. So I'm a closeted freshman football player in a big-ass nude shower. And the senior running back comes up to me and goes, it's like, you're a fucking bitch. You're a fucking whore. And I was like, what? And I'm thinking, oh, they know. I was like, oh, it's on.

Like, I don't know what's going to happen. Like, and he's like just rubbing his stomach and like rubbing his own dick. And he's like, you want this, don't you? And then the seniors start screaming, or not screaming, chanting, money shot. And I've read, you've read Time magazine, you've seen these things, we were like, football play, like, let's be real, football players, like, I'm not trying to generalize, but like, hey, y'all, yeah, got a problem. I was like, study show.

Statistics have shown, you all have issues. So I'm like literally thinking, all right, cool, I need to back up into the corner of this public shower, because if you're going to rate me, I'm nobody's coming from behind. Like, I need to see what's happening. so like all the freshmen are also equally like they don't know it's their first days they're like so then he's like you're bit true whore and then like in the end he just like you know like that shitty gojo they had at college sports it was like the all in one soap yeah yeah yeah he starts rubbing his stomach and then just goes and it just throws the gojo

in my face yeah and they all laughed and like that was the joke but I don't think at the time they all knew that I was also like closeted and gay so like it really, really repressed it. Like, David, there's a good, like... Like, any chance of you feeling like this is a safe space of any kind over on day one, over on day one. It really just shoved that down.

I mean, football, homosexuality, there is no room for it. No room right now. They're not gay, but they are the gayest. Like, if you've been in a football locker room, like the amount of times they've been smacking each other's ass, slapping their dicks and their sacks. Well, they're all just wearing spandex and, like, rubbing against each other and jumping on each other, manpiling.

All the time, but then they got like staff infections, but then they kind of put their balls in, those necks. It's like, it really did teach the difference between, like, nudity and sexuality. Like, you can be nude and there can be nothing sexual about it. But also, I do think that sexuality is such a spectrum, and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these guys are, like, could be by, but, like, they're suppressing it, too.

Or we're gay, and we're in the same place as you. Oh, I would assume that at least 10 out of the hundred to kiss each other, drunk on like a dare but i wasn't there but isn't that like statistics too like there's no way that everyone in football is straight like it's just not possible no way also just like you've been in the locker room especially the higher you grow up like if you want to see people with like five percent body fat and like bigger-ish dongs walking around and standbacks like that's the place to go to see it in real life wait so when was your first hook up with a dude um probably like 27. It was just like literally like the apps just like okay cool went over to his house.

I mean actually I would have the full Monty like kiss to sex everything else but that was weird because like you saw in my pictures I'd been a football player so the first few guys it was like almost like a fantasy thing. Oh you're a football player and like I did actually one guy asked me to head butt him and I I did and he got like seriously hurt. It's such a game man issue. I was like, oh, blah, blah, like, get rough for me. And I was like, well, I'm a fullback. Like, I sit me professionally through my head at people.

Like, I didn't think about that, though. And I was like, oh, there's a helmet usually. Like, usually you're not just naked being like, pam. And I was like, oh, oh, sorry. It was very fun. You can't breathe. You paralyze yourself. People want that whole, like, rough thing.

it's like, I'm not the one. Yeah, it's interesting how, like, you can be so sexualized just from, like, looking at a photo being like, yeah, he's just this tough football player guy who's going to roughhouse me. It's like, no, like, maybe, but, like, also, like, we need like a safe word or, like, levels.

Like, you can't just be able to plan. Like, you have to have rules. You have to have specifications. The safe word is coconut. Like, you got to figure it out. Yeah. Like, you know? Wait, so what is your type? Are you single right now? I am single. I am single. I am single recently out of a two and a half year relationship.

We lived together last year. Oh, it was a quarantine breakup? It was a quarantine breakup. It was a quarantine breakup and like, it was a quarantine breakup mixed with, yeah, it was quiet. Let's just say. What's your type and was your ex your type? I would say my ex was my type.

I like usually like 28 to 50 colors of the rainbow. I mean, honestly, generally just like sharp, cheap bones, in shape, whip smart. Yeah. You know? We're figuring it out. I'm trying, I went to Los Angeles recently for work and had like a little bit of a hoe phase. So I was like just doing what I want. And I was like at first when I broke up, I was like, you know what?

I want them to either be older and take care of me or to have an Oscar nomination. Like I was like, you know what, the rule for 2020 is no civilian. 20 is no civilians. Like, you either need to be able to take me to the Oscars or take care of me or both. You want a guy who is, like, as successful or more successful or, like, you respect. I want someone who is as ambitious as me because I am wildly and psychotically ambitious. I would call myself, like, Nomi Malone from Showgirls, but, like, I haven't openly committed crimes. But, like, in theory, I will push someone down the stairs. You would if you had to.

To get on that spotlight. Yeah. Like, not. actually. Yes, tennis players. It's like you have a killer instinct if you needed to. But metaphor, yes, if you're limping and I see you have sunstroke, I'm going to serve the ball directly at your face. Like, you know, like let's make, like quit. I'm going to make you want to quit. If you're going to get hurt, like you're going to quit, and then I win. So that's the thing. I would love to beat you able-bodied, but if you're limping, it's going to drop shot ace, drop-shot ace. Let's do this. I love these metaphors, because that's all I understand. tennis, sports metaphors.

Do you have any advice for straight dudes for getting their shit together to be more attractive? I would say listen to, I recently heard this song by Say Grace called Boys Ain't Shit. And that's all good. That's who y'all are. I would say, just say what the fuck you mean and mean what the fuck you say. If you're into a girl, say I'm into you. Radical honesty will work for you. And don't try to be cool because you're not fucking cool, bro.

Preach, because if you have to try to be cool, that means you're not cool. Exactly. Just being you is being cool. If you like Pokemon, if you don't like tomatoes, that's a little bit basic, but it's okay. Be honest. But the whole, like, I can't call for three days. Or if we fuck, obviously I like you. Also, don't open with Hey Beautiful or Hey, Handsome on apps when we met. I know you think I'm attractive.

That's why we matched. You don't have to say it again. That's redundant. Just be like, how's your. day. What's up? What do you like? I know you think I look good. You already swipes. You're just saying the thing you already said through sliding. Oh, so you could say it to anyone. Like, let's get to the point, is your trauma compatible with my trauma? Exactly. Do you like Chadee? Do you like tomato based sauces? Do you like everybody loves Raymond? Because that is a deal breaker. That show was

trash. But like everything else is cool, you know? What about for straight guys, like girls listening who have boyfriends, what advice, or dating guys? What advice do you have for those guys to, like, look better? Well, luckily, I think for, like, for me and my sister, who literally, we, she is 29, single, ready to mingle, also a better athlete than me. Shout up Taylor Thornton. She won the national championship in lacrosse twice. Go, Taita.

I think, you know, just like for these men, don't be intimidated by a bad bitch. You know, if she, if she's athletic and tall and got a job, That's good for you. Maybe you could be a stay-at-home dad. Oh, hell, yeah. You'll be out here trying to be intimidated and also just- Also, your child is going to be a professional athlete. Right?

Follow-up. That's the thing. Don't say, hey, what do you want to do for dinner? And then text a week later. Like, make plans. Make plans. And follow through on-sad plans. Being, again, it's the whole thing of being cool.

Being, like, elusive is just a euphemism for fucking flake. You're a fucking flake. Oh, my God. Elusive is so, like, easy in New York way to just be like kind of quiet and you look like you're thinking about interesting things and you know things other people don't know. No, you're just insecure and don't know who you are yet and you fucking with people. Like a man in LA picked me up like, where are we going? I was like, are you fucking kidding you in? How are you going to have a plan? How are you going

pick me up in a rented Porsche boxer and not know where you're going to take me? You better know where you're going to take me. L.A. shit, a rented porch. Wait, how are L.A. Gay guys? different than New York gay guys. Give me a mass stereotype. I mean mass stereotype is more superficial. Like I just I can't play like I've never seen more I just think the surgery over there is a lot and like I'm trying to be like what are gay guys getting done? Not like just Matt Botox they're just freezing it the freezing the type but thing is like once you're past the age where that should be happening like it just looks strange like if you're 45 and your forehead doesn't move then that's weird but I think

it's honestly a lot of foreheads, a lot of cheeks, a lot of upper lip. I feel like the upper lip is like, I don't know why. I'm sorry to attack your people in general, but among white men and white women, everybody knows that lips fake, y'all. Y'all don't have lips like that. I'm so, well, I think there's a concept where girls were getting it, obviously like Kylie started it, where they think that men subconsciously see a vagina if your top lip and bottom lip are the same size. But girls, can we stop? Like, can we just, again, go back to accept yourself for who you are instead of trying to look like every other person in L.A. because it gets boring. Yeah, I think like beauty is in the eye of the beholder, obviously. But I do think because

of social media, we're all going to this one Instagram face. And like patient zero is like tired. So it's like everybody is just trying to look. But it's like that face when it's not filtered or angled, when you see that face in person with no contouring, it is... It's not okay. And thrawling. I'm not even going to use a negative term there, but I was at a Takaya on sunset, and I was wildly stoned. And there was a girl that had, let's call it, the Kylie's in her face.

And I realized the thing she had put in her face were so far from where the face started, and she had, like, like, acrylic gels, and she was trying to put the piece of lettuce in her mouth. And it was, like, because of where her, like, extensions on the face and hands were, were, we're so far from where the actual appendages were, it was like watching a baby bird used chopsticks to feed itself. And like, so I was watching and I was like, hi, and I was just like, got so enthralled like I was watching planet Earth. And I was like, also girl, use a fucking fork for lettuce. I got really closer. Then she looks at me like, what the fuck is wrong

with you? And I'm like, oh wait, I am the asshole here. Like, I should not be doing, I should not be like. No, some girls like you, they can't speak and guys too actually. They get veneers and the lips and they're getting the fillers. The next thing you know, you can't move your face and your lips and teeth just aren't connecting the right way. It's like, yo, your face is a scream mask. Like, what are we going to do with this?

Well, you are a very handsome man, but I want to know what is your biggest physical insecurity? Ooh, biggest physical insecurity. Definitely probably lower abs and ass. Like I have a nice round ass It's a great ass

And I'm pretty in shape But I find that I'm not like I mean all gays have body dysmorphia But I'm like So like I find you to Instagram And my like you know I would say my like mild to mid level case of bi dysmorphia

I would like to just have a better And tighter stomach And then one of those just like Cellulite with boogies Because like I got a I mean you didn't get cellulite too I got a big ass And I also lost weight

Because I was 260 in college And now I'm like 200 pounds So like you know You got stretch marks down there but men don't seem to mind it so so long story short you're sexy but you you like see the details you're detail I see the details I see the details I definitely see the details well speaking of details and detail-oriented you have become like kind of a your fashion jewelry designer but can you tell me in depth more about this company you created because

there's it's pretty interesting so when I was working at fuck jerry and I was like a managing director there. I was getting frustrated by the broliness of everything and seeing that there was more and more surface level diversity. They were casting more minorities, more women, more gay stuff. But it was like, it was just used, it was basically, they were taking the cultural capital of those minority communities to make the same demographic money, which is like the white straight Cornell business school dude. It's like, oh yeah, like drag queens are in. Let's put it in our campaign for our kombucha. Oh yeah, black people are in right now. Let's use on fleak for. But the gamekeepers aren't Yeah, exactly. So I was like, I had, I'd also been in a focus group for Tiffany

and then jewelry and I realized that the markup on like a properly capitalized jewelry company is like 7 to 10x. So when you buy something at Tiffany and it costs $90, it cost them like nine, between $9 and $13 to make it. So it's like, all right, cool. Like I've always like design. I worked at Ralph Warren for four and a half years and like digital language and design. And I was like, okay, cool. It's a jewelry company where you take place for some of these profits and invest them in minority and female founders. Because if you have a woman or or a minority that the CEO, they make between like 14 and 34% more profit for their company because we've been challenged so much more to get there.

Like we have to get past like being termed aggressive or bitchy or whatever else and we're just like knowing what we talk about. Fuck yes. So that's the vibe. And then we've also gotten some good coverage in town and country and Walshie Journal. And we pivoted during the pandemic into fine joy with sustainable resource diamonds. so I'm kind of like in a black gay Neil Lane moment. Oh my God.

Well, I saw that. You recently had like a custom wedding engagement ring. So I ended up like when we launched in September, Slick Woods was a friend of a friend signed on to be like the first like equity phase for the fall campaigns. We're having a really big party in September. And then someone from Soho House who's my friend was like, would you want to do a story on it? They ended up putting me on the cover of the house notes magazine.

I thought it was going to be like an email. And then I had friends texting me like, you're famous. I was like, what the fuck are you talking about? And they, like, put it on the cover of every worldwide magazine. So then my friend who went to Sewer House was like, I want you to make my ring. And I was like, oh, you're drunk. I grew up at Sewer House.

And she had, like, text. And then she, next day I send, I see an email with a subject, four carrots, BBS1. Oh, when it's an email, you know that shit was real. That was a subject line. And it was like, and the body of the email was, you know what this is about. And it was her then boyfriend and me.

And I was like, oh shit so did you have any connection with diamonds or were you just like i'm gonna figure this out so i literally we i was kind of mentored by alice and annie in the beginning they were actually supposed to invest a million dollars on us and then because they were like we have no authenticity in this space like we're a white yoga mom jewelry company you're like a black queer person from like you know a like a major metropolitan city we'll invest we'll do the back end you build a brand we're like cool then they ended up getting into a lawsuit with bank of america over were like their predatory living process

with female founders. So they kind of couldn't come in, it was like, interestingly serendipitous. And so while we were producing, it turns out we had a sustainable resource diamond supplier that was like two floors above our manufacturer. So I would have started talking to them about stuff. And I was like, this would be a great way

in my mind to add onto our story because, you know, diamonds are a largely creator of a creator of largely white wealth off the backs and ecosystems of black and brown body. So it's like, if diamonds were like, If that wealth was given to the correct people, then Africa, you know, every, every part of Africa would be like a Honda right now. People need to know about this. This is important.

And all that shit. So I feel like having diamonds that are sustainably sourced, it's like it's better for the ecosystem. And it's also just better, but knowing, just knowing where you got it. What does it mean by sustainably source diamond? So basically means you take the carbon out of the air, put it in a kind of like compression, let's call it machine a reactor. And you basically in a few hours to four weeks. weeks depending on how long it takes and like having the diamond you want kind of recreate that whole million years of pressure that you would in the actual earth so it ends up being like you know

environmentally clean it ends up being making sure you know nobody got murdered like Leonardo DiCaprio movies to get it to you and I also I just kind of conferred to as like the Tesla of diamond like you know you might want some luxurious and cool and you can get like the Mercedes S65 that cost 200 grand or you get it out Tesla that doesn't you know pollute the world or to destroy anything and it costs 165 so it's like you know so it's more affordable it's more affordable it's not affordable but it is more affordable like the ring for my friend was like 60k but it would have been like 100 to 150 if do you think that you're going to do more stuff with diamonds and like engagement rings and like I could kind of see you becoming like that celebrity like designer I kind of I

kind of taken off in that respect so we're already doing I've already been connected to a few pretty cool people. We also did a bag collaboration with BN. Davis. We've already sold one of the bags and we have two on hold. They're $32,000 and they have four of diamonds in them. And we have one as a celebrity client, which I'm hoping we can announce soon. But it's like, it's pretty cool. And I also really want to be the fucking ring designer for the bachelor. Because why? I was about to say. There's a black bachelor and a black bachelorette and I'll be fucking goddamn if Elaine is the jeweler. I am going to manifest this right now. We need a black queer Neil Lane, because I'm sorry, Neil Lane, your time is up. Your time is up, dude. And we also need some new cool diamonds

and not just kind of the generic. Let's do it. So Chris Harrison, get up your fucking ass. Or you should just be the next Chris Harrison, because you've got jokes. I would also, that, nobody would feel good about themselves. I feel like I could do it. Let's be honest. Chris, Chris Harrison just, like, plays golf all day, and then, like, snorts some cocaine, comes back in, says, like, three things. So, when you're done, I'd be like, I'm sorry. Like, I do, like, when those girls come in, they're like, I just want, I'm like, bitch, you're 23. I'm sending you home. You don't know yourself.

I veto this rose. This bitch is gone. Like, that's what I want. He's like, oh, you're the mom this season? Go home to your child. He doesn't even know your name. And it's the fifth week. Or when those guys are like

get mad over like they're on the bathroom and they get mad over like her sleeping or kissing with multiple people. I'm like, no, you're a chauvinist. Who the fuck cares? She can drop that thing on every dick here. That's what she's here for. To test the motherfuckers out.

Yes, yes. That like ruined Caitlin's relationship with Sean because he like couldn't get over that she hooked up with another guy. God forbid she can compare dick sizes. God forbid. No, like Sean, you're just mad because your dick game is weak.

Your dick game probably weak. And you want to have that control the whole time. Any man who's that upset with a woman or another man getting with somebody else on a show that is a competitive dating show has a deep dick game. You have no hip action. You have stiff hips. You need to stretch your hip flexors, bro.

You can go to yoga and go to therapy. Mental and physical transformation needs to occur. You need to go to a different ABC show when you fix your fucking life. I remember why we bonded. Well, we were thrown into like this Snapchat pilot that we did together. Like we never spoken because we're not we're not eye contact people. Like I'm a New Yorker.

I don't really make it. Like we walk past each other and we knew like we're just not fucking actually you like to be alone as a tennis player and we both do. And you would go in the podcast studio and I would kick you out every time. And I'd always walk in and I'd be like, please don't be that Blakely guy. And then I'm like, fuck it's him. And I'd be like, hey, I'm sorry. And you'd be like, yeah, it's totally cool.

And then you'd, like, slowly have to pick up, like, 80 things you had laid out of, like, your whole company. You had, like, a whole marketing plan that you just, like, laid out with Post-its. Okay, here's my fall mood board and, like, seven loose diamonds. But I was, it was so funny because I would always feel bad because I felt you were coming in, like, so apologetic to you were like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm like, the thing is, like, what does it?

Pappi was telling me every morning that it's going to happen. So I was all. See, I didn't even know. I just assumed that I was just. just like a girl showing up. It's surprising me every time. Yeah. But you straight up once had like post-its everywhere organized and I was like, oh, Jesus Christ.

But we bonded because we hit it off in this pilot. We were just bouncing off each other like crazy, making each other laugh so hard. I'm like, this guy who's been silent and very scary looking has the best sense of humor in the office. Second of all, I found out you watched Summer House and you started DMing me being like, girl, I have opinions. I really do. I have all the opinions. I have all the opinions. One, you and Paige,

Abbott and Costello of Summerhouse. Totally cool. I'm with it. I'm with it. I also like that my opinions were being reflected in the New York Magazine recap opinion.

I was like, yes. Whoever this dude is, we are one. The bullsher ones. The bullsher is funny. Yeah, she was like, and it's funny. Page is funny.

But I do think, and you know what, I can like, if they want to at me, it's fine. Most of the dudes in Summerhouse just need to get, like, red for fucking filth by someone the same size as them. Because I feel like you guys try, then they get, like, blackout drunken in your faces,

which is both, like, inappropriate and, like, frightening. No, there is a weird thing. I feel like compared to other shows, we, like, like Southern Charm, those boys do whatever the fuck they want and no one holds them accountable. Ours, like, some hold accountable, but you're right. When they get hammered, like a 38-year-old bro yelling at you blackout is actually is so scary. And that's why I feel like, hello, Bravo. I should be on Summerhouse. I'm the appropriate age. I'm 34, turning 35. But what these men need is my demographic. They need someone

who's physically the same size, black and gay. He's just a fuck as wrong with you. Wait, okay, I will talk to casting because it needs to happen. It's funny because we had Stephen, the gay guy, and then he was out, and then it's like they haven't been considering. Each person has their own journey, but I do think you've had another gay person on Summer House since then. Oh, yes. I forgot about that. Also, you could not turn, but there could be people who could be swayed. You know, I mean, every, I mean, I know, you know, you got people who've had their dick sucked by a man on your, I mean, that's not going to be me, though. Like, it will be reversed, if anything. Wait, what are some other opinions you have of last season? I want some hot takes.

Hot take. I feel Carl needs to get his life together and just not drink at all. I feel like every time you hear him say more life, I feel like it's a little bit of a hate crime and racial appropriation and also just like a fact that like it just means less life. Like when you ever you say more life, you need less of whatever you've had, whether that is alcohol, cocaine, or some combination. I feel like like well good news. He has been making some changes. That's what I'll say to that. That's cool. You know, Lover Boy, I feel like it's White Claw Jr.

But it's going to be probably successful. I'm for it. I feel like it was a smart move to be the only alcohol you could actually mention on the show. Because clearly y'all were drinking Mike's hard iced teas or whatever before they were just blurring it. But like, hello, we're Americans. We can fucking hell. Yeah. But now we can say Lover Boy.

So I don't know what it is. I'm assuming it's a sparkling shelter. I won't participate in that trend. But good for y'all. I think that's cool. Cool. Kyle and Amanda, I would say, girl, just like, hold off. Like I would say if you, if this really works, I would wait till you're 30 to actually

get married. And I don't know how long, I think that's what, three, four more years. I would say give it 72 to 58 to like 156 more months of being engaged. Because, you know, I feel like when a couple's drunk, when they get drunk, they fight together on the same side. When me and someone are vibing, we're like, oh, he called your shoes. ugly you're a fucking doctor your mother doesn't love you like you're just down you'll turn on anyone together turn on anyone together like when me and my boyfriend even though we were like

the exes but when we were like really really vibed a man tried to stress us in a restaurant and when i tell you that we make him cry and pay for our meals that's what love is love is making strangers cry together. You don't make each other cry. You make everyone else cry. When I tell he was yon of that man in Spanish and I told him no one would love him and his square-toed shoes, that's love. And I don't really see that from them. What do you think of me and Luke? I like that. I wish I had actually gotten together. I mean, I feel like Luke is the least fuck boy of the fuck boys. I think you should have gotten with him faster. I think you should just test to that faster because men that are that attractive, I find sometimes also tend to be weak in bed

because they don't have to do anything. And I was like, okay, cool, he's coming in here on a, like, I was like, is this making it coming in here on a motorcycle playing guitar? And not trying to fuck? Making custom hats and rings and is not going to try to sling that dick. Like, what are you doing? What are we doing here? That's like what I said.

You're basically a member of Van Halen. Like, let's get it on. But then it became like a bigger mind game because it was like, oh, he doesn't want to fuck. So I'm like, now I have to pretend I don't want to fuck. I'm that same person, I'm wait. I'm like, you want to fuck me, and then not fucking me. Now I'm definitely going to fuck me. But I'm going to do it, like, very sly.

Like, oh, now I don't need to. But I'm going to come when you least expect it. Now I'm going to bring other guests around. I love that when you brought that, like, fate and bait around just so he would get mad. Like, that's a, that's a, that's Scorpio game. Like, Scorpio can play a game. Oh, I'm a Scorpio Rising, Leo, Mooh. October 27.

Oh, fuck, yeah. So I will play the long game. I'm all about revenge and like I'm saying you said Hannah, you can get revenge in a day and it won't be that good or sick revenge in like 20 years. I say I will sit back and wait, put that in my back pocket for that 20 year itch and then enjoy some real revenge. My literal Instagram profile used to be I have never forgiven anyone for anything. If you think you're okay with me, if you fucking think you, you just. are real bad. You think we're good because you haven't heard for me in a while? You think we're good?

That's my, like, 20 years from now, I like literally somebody like, somebody used to get my name wrong at work at Ralph Lauren, and that man is still, he used to call me, like, he used to call me Blake, Brentley, Bradley, and then he fucked up and called me Blackie one day. So now this

Negro, he's not actually a neighbor, he's white, but he's a white Negro, and he is on my list. And one day, I will ruin his, I will hire him, hire him. marry his ex-husband and then when he's like why did you do this?

I'm going to be like you know what you fucking get. It's 2035 and you know what you fucking did. And that's my version of revenge. I want the person to be like, why? You know what I mean?

I don't want them to expect it. When you're braced for something, it's okay. A true surprise. It's like football or tennis. You know, like if you can see the tackle come, it doesn't hurt.

But if you get blindsided, your body's not ready. There's more injuries. There's emotional. trauma. That's what I want. I want emotional and physical trauma in my revenge. I will wait for it. And that is how it's fucking done. I'm Italian, so I've mafia in my blood. So you know, we never forget. You never forget. People are like, Hannah, stop holding grudges. I said, if you don't hold grudges, you're stupid. If you don't hold grudges, I feel bad for you when the same shit keeps happening in your life

and you wonder why you're a loser. Exactly. Why do these men keep treating me badly? Because you're not destroying them. Because they still have homes and families. Yes, because they still know what joy is. If a man fucked you over and the next man will know, the next man will know. I'm dead.

Okay. But that being sad, the company is called civil. I'm trying to be more civil in my life. So it's a constant battle because every day I'm like. It's a constant reminder. to be more simple to your ear. You have a company called Civil. That's a real easy burn from the press.

Like, look, CEO of Civil Jewelry, like, gets in a fight with Miley, I would do it. So, do it sound about it. Getting darker. What's your worst bad habit? Ooh, that's a good one. I have many. Probably my worst bad habit prior.

to 2020 is I'm trying to, given the events of the world, this summer, let people know how I feel when I'm feeling it. That way, I have less revenge cases. So I feel like, like, as it is, both of our Scorpio tendencies to hold it in and then get you when you don't know what's happening. I like that slap, that turn me on. Not everybody else knows why we were mad.

And then we were like a crazy person. Do you ever have like your own fight in your head with someone who has not signed up for this fight and doesn't even know they're a part of it? And every day you're like, oh, really? Okay, okay. I didn't see that one coming. This person's sneaky. They have no idea. They're like, what are you mad about? Like, how do you not know? But it's like, oh, I've been

talking to myself for four months. Like, they don't know that. And it means you have to face confrontation. And confrontation, sometimes people say it's hard, but it also means that you want to, like, possibly resolve something. Like confronting someone means you want to, like, be mature and, like, possibly move forward. And sometimes that's not my style. Like, I'm like, I already see what I see and I don't want to resolve this. I'm doing it faster, even like an interracial dating. Like, this is new me. This is Scorpio me, but new me. I'm going to read you a text. chain. Oh my god. This man says the receipts. He basically like I slept with him and ended leaving one of my bracelets in his hotel room and he goes oh it complements my outfit very well he goes

oh I'll go did people give you compliments he goes yes the orders are rolling in where's my commission I go your commission is not being prosecuted just dealing my jewelry he goes oh he goes I'm simply minding my business like a good citizen he's like I expect to be rewarded and I said that's the problem with white man you expect to be rewarded for during the minimum whereas normally I would have set it in my head and gotten real annoyed with him and I sent to Rihanna Gieth of her throwing money in someone's face

he goes I'm sorry that was my poor attempt flirting dinner Friday and I said where so I feel like this but you're also you're setting boundaries of him you're showing your true self and your true thoughts but also enough with these white men who are just like care for you

or like show up on time and you're like this guy's amazing. No, he's not. He's doing the bare, fucking minimum. He showed up and was polite. I'm like, oh, you're like, oh, you're like, I'm sorry that I left my bracelet at your hotel room. You could have left it with the counter. You could have returned it to me in the Porsche that you had. You chose to wear it and get compliments on it. So I'm not going to give you a fucking commission. When was the last time that you were depressed? Oh, God, that is like, I don't know, I guess a little bit every day for a few minutes a day.

Every day when I wake up. But I mean, I like my anxiety wakes me up at like legitimately 5 a.m. every day. And I kind of like, I think that the issue of it is like powering through it. Like I feel like given everything that's happened with COVID, everything that's happened with like the Black Lives Matter movement, like there's a lot to think about every day.

But then I have to think like, oh, I live in a one bedroom in parks boat, but I'm okay. And I, like, you know, have the money to live and go places and do things. Like, I'm doing better than, like, 95% of Americans. So, like, being grateful helps you because I wake up and I have so much anxiety. I have trouble getting out of bed because I just everything weighs on me that I have to get done. And if I'm like, if I don't get out of bed, I don't have to face any of it yet.

Exactly. Exactly. Like, it's like, like, like, these four walls are my only friend. These four walls and the seamless. And I've had some, I've had Sundays where I've literally just ordered seamless, walk to and from. Because the funny thing is, like, normally I work out. a lot. So if I look at like my apple, you'll say like seven, 13 miles a day. But I'm

those days when depression hit, it'll be like 37 steps. It's like that Zendaya episode of Euphoria where she gets like a UTI from not going to the bathroom. Like that's, that hits me probably like once every two months. How do you get yourself out of bed each day though to be like working out and on the calls you don't want to be on? I have a, I have a big like as Corey, as it is, I have a big passion for what I do for a living. Because I feel like, you know, there's this whole thing like with the idea of civil and that can translate to media and that can translate to, you know, all things that kind of allow people that aren't the traditional Cornell lacrosse player to like run a business.

You know, it's like if, I think it's trickled down diversity for me. Like the more diverse CEOs to get more diverse workplaces and to get less situations for people feel oppressive today. So I'm like, you know. You have a purpose right now. And it's actually getting like momentum and that must must be very energetic for you. And I also feel like with the exercise, like the one thing is like I can't control how, I mean, I can control to a certain extent how many people buy my product or how my people that

I work with act. And I can't control the way people perceive me as a black day male. But what I can control is like my body and how I treat it, which is how I think the thickness is like, oh, like I can't control over like some crazy fucking Trump supporter across me. but I can control, like, keeping this shit tight and intimidating for potential suitors. Like, that is the one thing I have to complete. I read in an interview that you are, you say that, like, you're not traditionally,

like, the sassy gay. Are you aware of, like, how you present yourself, or did you ever feel like you need to be more sassy or less sassy in certain groups? I think there's an interesting thing where I read a quote where, like, I think for all queer people, like adult life is learning what parts of your personality are actually you and what parts of your personality,

built up to protect yourself from ridicule and like it like blew my fucking mind when I was like you know when you're growing up and you're black and in Texas and I feel like the way I would always think to myself before I came out was like I only have time I only have one head and I can only look over one shoulder and that one shoulder was like you're black in Texas so like I didn't have time to look at both and I feel like again there are certain things but like my parents were never overly homophobic but there are so many homophobic things baked into culture for males and especially black males who are expected to be hyper masculine hyper strong etc so I feel like a lot of the part even when I got out of football in like my early 20s I was like well I know I'm not straight

but I know I'm not particularly a part of this community so like where do I fit in like it's like oh you're gonna have to be like snapping and rip popping or you have to be like something else I didn't really see myself and again like to quote Oprah or I don't know who one of the black one said this you have to like see yourself to do yourself yeah so like I don't I'm sorry I I really should know who said that. Black Twitter, I don't, I don't, I'm, I apologize. But I feel like it's just like, even now in my life I'm learning like what parts of my personality and how I present are me and are not.

And I think that's why at Fuck Jerry, I do dress fairly while. I do paint my nails. I'm like, I'm just figuring out what works for me. Yeah. It comes off as hyperconfident, but really is just like experimenting with like my comfort with who I am because I'm on a scale that's like 10 to 15 years later than anybody. Yes. So I feel like that's, and also everyone is growing and updating.

It's like everything, nothing is stagnant. I also love the white nails right now for you. Thank you. The thing is I learned you have to get gels when you're active when you play tennis and box and run. Yeah, or if you wash your hands a lot. Yeah, they don't last that long for me. And also when I was getting them done, I didn't realize how long it takes to get gels.

So my sister's like, you're a fucking idiot. you have to get gels, and I fell asleep, and they have those, those, those, uh, those glass things there. You hit it. Uh, I knocked, I like crushed it. It was like not very well. So, I fell over it. All the nail polish goes everywhere. It's, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, honestly, like, susten, like, just maintenance is impossible, and I just started doing it in quarantine. And, um, it's hard, but this, when you just get it done, you feel like a Oh, you feel spectacular. Who is she?

It also helps in any, like, boogey establishment. Like, when I was in L.A., like, we went to, like, the proper hotel, and the waiter was a complete bitch to us. And I was like, I like your nails. She was like, I like your nails. And then they just start. Yes, because people put fucking effort into it. Also, when I got, I grew up my nails a little, I was so much better at fighting because

I would just, like, feel the nails, and I would start you flailing them around, and people get scared at, like, the flashiness of it. And I have more attitude. That's why I keep like the white or bright colors, because it pops and it lets you know where my fingers are going more. Yes. I don't like that. You're not going to miss a finger fail.

You're not going to miss who I'm fucking shading right now. You know what I mean? Like you're going to see it. You will see and be it all at once. So Blakely, we're going to finish with a final game. You're so fucking funny. You're so fucking impressive. But now we're going to play the Seven Deadly Sins.

What are you greedy about? Attention, romantically. It's like that Megan the Sallion, like I talked to you this as like, that Scorpio line was like any other, any bitch you fucking continue to dead it before I come through and she gets hectic, that's me. Like, if I find out about, even if we're not dating exclusively. Even if you're talking to 10 other boys? Oh yeah, yeah. Completely, completely. The one of them is like, how many other boys are you talking to you?

I was like, you're the third boy like in LA and I've been here for 10 day. Like, if I find out that he's on a date tonight, like, will I cancel or burn his house down? Yes. Well, that's, like, Leo, like, I want to be the greatest thing to ever happened to you. Like, that's the kind of attention I want. I don't want, like, you're pretty. I want to be like, I've never felt this way in my whole fucking life. That's what I want.

Like, that's, yeah, like, it's number one or done. Do you ever get overwhelmed with, like, managing all the guys? Oh, yeah. I've definitely texted the wrong person in my phone before, like, this week. Because I feel like I can only be so witty. and funny and adorable for, like, so many people per day? I've narrowed it down to, like, four that I would actually talk to on text. Like, apps don't fucking care, riotkins, whatever the fuck else.

But, like, there need to be four active people. And, like, you also have to, in, like, you know, in the position to being honest, dead people when they're actually dead. It's like, you know, like, hey, this is a friend thing. Like, if you want to keep talking, it's cool. If you were questioning it, it's done on to the next thing. Like, if you're wondering if he's into it or if you're, into it, it's done.

Yeah, exactly. Who are you envious of? Ooh. Mediocre white dudes. I feel like, I feel like the world has just been given to them. And like now is the beginning of them understanding that like you're not that special, interesting, or attractive. Yeah.

But like, I do feel like that ability to float through life with everything made for you and every idea of being like considered is just a magic that I wish I could expect. for like a day because the rest of us don't get that like oh that's brilliant like oh that's cool you want to be the head of the network never worked before you want to you want to you want to direct a movie you've never directed here's 25 million dollars because you got a square jaw and you look like a leader like I I want that oh my god you're so right and also the world has been paved by their people exactly it kind of just fits like a puzzle piece perfectly they're like oh Victoria's Girls want to see, like, size zero girls only.

It took Rihanna to be like, maybe we need a bitch with some meat on her in there. And that took 30 years because like white dude for like, white dude didn't, exactly, exactly. Like, you want to be a fantasy. That's your specific weird fantasy. Yeah. Yeah. If you don't want to hold on to something when you fuck it, but also all sizes are beautiful. What are you gluttonous about?

What do you overindulge in? or like your guilty pleasure I would honestly say probably Chipotle people shit on Chipotle but like Chipotle is like literally like no pun intended but like no pun intended for sure I'm a Chipotle I stand Chipotle like what is your order? My order is and okay I'll go my high school order

was two full chicken burritos with brown rice tortillas like all the fixin two full burritos the works That's how it's probably 240. Now my like, you got to keep it right, keep it tight, single order. Yeah. Burrito bowl, no rice, because I'm boring. Half an order of black beans, heated vegetables, and then chicken, tomatoes, all the good.

So basically no cheese, no carbs, but I'm still getting this kind of, give me that. What about the guac? Oh, yeah, you got to get guac. If you're not going to get cheese, you've got to get gull. What's your overall diet right now to stay tight? Oh, diet stay tight is basically I have egg whites and turkey sauces in the morning

and then for what's it called lunch I usually have some kind of like salad like literally salad salmon it's the boring shit you see in those weekly like it's not fun but it's fun for selfies

and then in the end I'll probably put some kind of like cauliflower rice I've been really big on the cauliflower rice train because it does fucking taste it tastes good It tastes really good. I love cauliflower. You get some McCormick's

lemon pepper seasoning and anything is good. Yes, preach. Put that shit on salmon, chicken, anything. But it has to be McCormick. My old roommate fucked up and just got some generic women pepper seasoning

and I was like, no, no, no, it was janky as fuck. It just tasted terrible. You guys, this is good advice. Yeah, a lot of it just needs some seasoning. Don't just be scared of healthy shit. Put some seasoning on that shit. When was the last time you experienced

extreme wrath. So do you ever suffer from anger? All the time. I mean, I was Scorpio. I mean, once in the last time I, like, let it happen. Like, like, like, acts on it, like, every day internally. But the last one, like, well, last one I gave it

to somebody fully. Those have you unleashed. Unleashed completely. It was probably, oh, there was a Trump supporter at the part at the, like, Atlantic Terminal Target that basically told me, he was screaming Trump at me and I just got my nails

and I was hearing I was doing a copy of white fragility so I think that said him off but he was like he was like I was like he was like I was like he was like he's gonna make a marriage great great again and I was like how tell me how like give me give me like proper nouns and berms tell me how he's like he'll make you know your place

and I was like what is my place and he goes below white and I go I go below like your height or white like your teeth you stupid fuck I was like I was like you're a fucking loser. Nobody loves you. Trump will not make things better for you. They're going to die alone. I cannot believe he said below whites. But he was wearing like a security guard uniform.

So I don't know if he was the target security guard or mentally challenged. But I don't know. I was just questioning the decision making and I was not getting mad at him because he has a sad little life and a sad little, you know, underserved somewhere. But then when he said below me, I was like, I'm going to kick you in your face. I do think that some white men are scared, as they see, like, with your company that, you know, women and minorities are now, they go to college and they are creating things and forming success. And actually the whole economy is better when we are involved. And you're actually saying it's proven that a lot of us are actually better at what we do. Numbers. It's numbers. Literally, if go to any magazine, if a company has, like, a female, queer or minority CEO, that company is actually like,

between 14 and 34% more profitable because people don't just assume we're leaders. They're like, ooh, she's fassing or ooh, he's, he's the urban stuff. Or, you know what I mean? It's like to have people, people know, they're like, she might be too emotional if she, if she doesn't deal with too many people each day. You're being aggressive. But then it's like these white men think they're being smart, being like, okay, if we're losing power, we have to fight it, but they're not seeing big picture.

Well, the thing is another quote that was that the loss of privilege feels emotionally like discrimination. And it's hard to recognize that. If you've been flying first class your whole life, if you've been flying private your whole life and suddenly you have the time first class, you're like, ew, who are these people? What is this place?

The plane doesn't wait for me. The plane waits for no one people. In terms of equality, the plane waits for no one. Everybody's going through the gross security line. Yeah. Everybody's eating the same shitty peanuts. Yeah. That's what we're going to be.

That is equality. And also, it doesn't necessarily mean that like giving other people rights means you're losing any rights. Yeah, exactly. So, oh my gosh, white men. how do we deal but i'm currently dating this guy i was having trouble dating because i was like very anger at white men um and it's like so easy to like see something that pisses you off about them and then you're immediately just like i am going to drag you or i can't deal with this but i'm dating

this older guy who literally is like look i've had my career i'm so inspired by your stuff i want to be a stay-at-home dad i kind of like the idea of just like golfing all day and being retired white man and you do your thing and be my sugar mama and i'm like fuck yeah yeah i'm down for that. I think if that's what we want, that's the role. But just like, let's go do it. But I think it has been very interesting dating in COVID, like not being on the app for like two and a half years. And then like coming out of the apps in like June of 2020, you're like, what the fuck is happening? I don't know what my emotions are. I let people like DM me and I'm like, I am not in the headspace to have sexy DMs throwing me right now. Like like, like do not flirt with me

because all it's going to come back at you is like venom. I feel like I either would get like insanely horny or be like I have no sexuality and I am just a wet blanket, not the good kind of wet, and I'm just lying here and I don't know what is happening. Lying here, letting myself fully mold into the ground. But like I got out of that. It's good.

L.A. was fun. We're trying to do it. But yes, the last wrath was at the Atlantic Tribunal Target and it could have been worse. She goes down at that time. You don't go there for like a calm, nice stroll on the mall. But I went there to buy these earphones today, which will be being returned target. You know, I grew up in Park Slope.

Oh, I fucking loved it. I like... It's amazing. I grew up on Garfield and Seventh. I'm on Fifth and Warren. For Fifth Avenue, Warren. It's a right by barque. Gorgeous.

My mom was the middle school principal of MS-51, Fifth Avenue, and Fifth Street. But I love that strip. It's amazing. It's gorgeous. Anywho. Oh, when was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something, so your ego? This is a tough one. I mean, probably any time when basically you're in the group chat and like you want to do something and then you get mad everybody and don't go, I'm captain of like the don't go squad.

I'm like, oh, there's one person piss me off. But so I'll say like, I'm cool. I'm just not going to go and I'm missing on a good time. But like in reality, I want everybody to have my fucking opinion and you all should not have to talk about this person to piss me. me off. So you like pick a side. Pick aside. Pick aside if you're a real one. I'm very much like you need to ride or die. But I don't say that out loud because I know there's not a way to be learning from Bravo shows. That's not a way to be a functional adult. Well, it's hard because my thing is I don't want to have to tell you to pick a side. No, you should just know. I don't

be that petty. I just want you to have my side. And if you don't, it's like then I can't help you. I'm also, I'm like just antisocial. My most epic move was like three weeks earlier. I planned a dinner with like a lot of my friends actually the summer house people I planned this dinner I was in a good mood day of I texted the whole group and go I have a sore throat so the dinner I planned everyone is there without me and I was just like not today um when was the last time you lusted over someone today gay man in America hello who's your celebrity crush I would have to say real okay Jeremy Pope that's the realistic one if you break up with your man come see about me because we're like we're two degrees separated from this manifestation

he got it he got an Emmy nomination for Hollywood he was brilliant in that he'll be playing Sammy Davis Jr. in the upcoming biopic I know about you yeah it's weird but also not in a creepy way and just the like educated way and I just think you were talking like if you want a black powerhouse gay couple or you can act. I can be the black. I can be the black car day eventually. I'll sell to LVMA for $1.6 billion and we'll live probably in Hancock partners to

Shonda Rhimes. Have I thought this out a little bit? But you were meant for like the what's it called the step and repeats and you were meant for the gals. Like I like to go to the Met like someone needs to fucking dress me. I look good in the tux. I have shark cheek bones. I look good in a tuxedo.

I'm educated. Yes. I know a smell of my eyes. I was raised on America's next top model. Put me on something somewhere. You're the fucking best, and I'm manifesting all of that for you. And you are like right now, even during quarantine, like I feel like when problems arise or any issues that come with your business,

you find ways to navigate. And I'm just excited to see where you go. But the final question on this podcast that I always ask is, what advice would you give to the little devils on how to cope with your hell? When you're in hell, what do you do? I would honestly say, to quote Lady Gaga as a gay man, it isn't hell if everybody knows your name tonight, tonight. So I think you just got to like, this is where you are.

And I also another one when I ran the New York City Triathlon and it was 2016, and it was so hot that people were just throwing up and passing out and they shortened the course because there was no more medics for myself to survive. And I, you know what? I did it. And I paid myself. and it was terrible and I had warm tea for six miles in Central Park but you know what I told myself this is where you are this is where you'll be

this is where you are this is where you'll be and then where you are is eventually the finish line and you can take that unitart off so just tell yourself this is where you are you this is where you'll be and if you're not every if you have impede yourself at a hundred and six degree weather with somebody throwing up in front of you and having to step over them then it ain't that bad because that's hell kids that's real hell you're like when you're going through At least you're running a fucking triathlon in Unitard. With piss going down yourself watching people vomit.

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if we just want to wait for everyday something come through hell yes i love it so much um everyone thanks for coming to hell today we all somehow survived and i'll talk to you guys later bye