Berner Phone - Brooke Miccio: Pizza Bagel & Vlog Expert

Episode Date: December 14, 2022

Brooke Miccio has been YouTubing for over a decade! She reveals her tips for vlogging and how she has let her audience in on her life from high school, to college, to moving to NYC, and her new boyfriend. She has a great podcast called Gals on the Go and we LOVE her energy. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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where I talk to people about their demons. I'm Hannah Burner. You know, guys know I'm obsessed with Jen Z's. Like, I'm scared of them, but I also think they're so cool and I want them to love me. And I feel like she came up on my FYP. She's a fellow pizza bagel.

And I was just feeling connected to her, but she didn't know me. And then we went to some, like, brunch type thing. Influencer brunch. Influencer brunch. How else are you supposed to meet people on the Sunday? And we made eye contact. And you were immediately, like, so warm. Because I was so excited to meet you.

Shut off. No, no, I feel the same exact way. Like, I feel like I knew your profile picture on Instagram for, like, ever. Like, years and years, I remember, like, seeing you. And people would be like, oh, Hanniburter. Like, I heard your name. Oh, my silly tweets. Yes.

It was like something. Like, I definitely. knew you and then we finally got to me and I was just like I just know we're going to get along I literally I'm very like I was like this with page whatever my first interaction with people is I'll immediately like keep that like you could literally stab me in the back today and I'll be like she was so sweet

like I you were just so warm and smiley and you were just like great to me and I remember being like okay this bitch is going to be an amazing guest on the pot I'm honored to be here and you're a Long Island girl yes and we're both pizza bagels like I feel like we're like very similar but different because you're like athletic and like you have like other cool shit going on and you're like actually funny.

No, but actually, like, I like, I like to think, I'm like, we're like really when I like, like, watch yourself, I'm like, yeah, like, we're similar. I do. Well, where in Long Island are you from? Northport. It's on, it's Suffolk County. So it's like on the water on the North Shore. We're gorgeous.

Okay, so my mom is from Smithtown. Oh, it's close. Yes. I grew up in Brooklyn, but we always had, um, my grandpa always lived in Shelter Island. So I spent a lot of time, like Long Island. Yes. Brooklyn back and forth. And then my dad is.

is part Jewish and my mom's like Sicilian. Okay, I have the flip. My mom's Jewish and my dad is, I think he might be Sicilian too. I have to go on like ancestry. I have the thing. It's like literally like 50-50. Have you ever done it? Actually, someone in my family did.

Like my dad did or something. So you have his information. Yeah, I think I need to do it. It's good to have. Like I like how, even though it updates like, I did ancestor. I didn't do 23 and me. And it like will be, I'll get a notification every now and again. It's like your information.

updated him, like, based on new findings. I'm like, how is it up? Like, it's a fact. But I guess because more and more people are entering the database, I don't really get it. You know, people are saying they're going to make a clone of me somewhere. Yeah. And then people are afraid they're going to, Paige has a phobia that they're going to use

her information to like get her in jail or something. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention, but she was worried about something. And I was like, if they're going to do it, go for them. Because that sounds complex. That sounds like a lot of work. Too much work. And honestly, not worth it for me.

Like, there's other people like, yeah. I just want to know. if I'm any percentage of like anything cool that can have a conversation with. But, I mean, I do feel like there's, especially like right now with like anti-Semitism and shit, growing up in like Long Island, New York, I feel like there were so many, everyone was part Jewish in some capacity. Yeah. And you'd see like the range of Judaism of your friends.

Totally. But I also felt like Judaism was also just like a state of mind of like personality and being funny and cynical. and hardworking. I don't know. I'm just naming random. No, it is. And then there's people who you meet that are like, oh, I'm culturally Jewish.

And you're like, but what does that mean, though? Like, I guess I am too. I'm Jewish, but not Jewish enough that a real Jewish guy can marry me without converting. Gotcha. Okay. I'm dating. My boyfriend's Jewish. Well, your mom's Jewish.

My mom's Jewish. Oh, because you're technically not. Oh, yes, yes, yes. See, like, technically I'm a schvixer. Is that what they call it? I'm a shug and a shiksa. A shiksa, yeah. A schviksa.

Did you celebrate both holidays? We, honestly, like, not both. So my family, look at us like getting to religion. I'm sorry, sorry, we're diving in. Oh, I love it. So this is a religion podcast now. My parents put us in, like, Catholic school on Sundays because their friends wanted to get drunk at brunch.

And they needed to send you somewhere. And they needed to do something with us. And I guess it was good to like, they wanted us to start with at least a frame of reference of religion. totally but then i like started playing tennis and i had tournaments i did not get confirmed or anything we didn't we we had the culture oh look at me now yeah you're like we ate potato lot because i had matzabree i had like i did that shit i i love like locks and cream cheese i don't know no i'm the same way and i literally met my boyfriend on a jewish ading at because i was like i'm technically

jewish like i have you guys been dating um a year like we're about to have our one year like technically anniversary but do you count on the day you started you went on your first date or you started dating because my mom is trying to argue with me she's like it's the second you went on your first date and then wait because then if you get engaged and then you get married there's so many anniversaries because now i'm fucking married i'm not only go by that one now like all the other ones get erased i like to go by like the day we met which was i we were DMing before it but the day we physically met was july 11th okay 20 20 darn that is kind of recent i don't really know the rant to tell you the truth no no that's a good date i'm actually i can't remember too

many dates like i'm like that friend that like i love you but i don't remember your birthday and like don't take it personally i'm always like one day off like i'll be like like i'll wake up oh my gosh today like i i have it in my calendar like i grew up with like facebook we're like that's how you know you don't remember it's like des remembers people's phone numbers like he remembers his girlfriend's phone number from like 1997 when you were born and that could start a fight i was like you don't remember my phone number and you know fucking tracy's from Middle school. Fuck you, bro.

There's too many numbers in this life. Like, there's the tax, oh my gosh. And the numbers you need to know for taxes. Then the passwords, don't get me started. It's too many. It's too many numbers. Like, there's too much information in my brain. I don't have any room for any more numbers.

I do have to say you are Gen Z. You are younger. I don't like to call, she's younger. But you've been in the business for a minute because I was doing research as one does. And I just like went on YouTube because I, I'm, I love like the, aspect of marketing. I haven't had a lot of YouTubers on. And it's actually the one thing that I haven't really figured out for myself. And I feel like people are scared of it. And there's all these excuses of why people don't want to star a YouTube channel. You've been doing it for 10 years.

Like more than 10 years. I know. I'm really freaking long. Like my parents didn't know what it was. Like I was on YouTube fully doing it. They were like, we don't really know. Like Brooks in her room like doing something. Our daughter is posting videos on the internet. And we hope it's appropriate. Just no idea. Like yeah. They wouldn't let me. This is the funny thing. They wouldn't do. I need a stripper pole in your bedroom for your YouTube? What is this? They wouldn't let me have a MySpace, but like I was allowed to like have free range on YouTube. Because no one knew it was.

Well, it's okay because MySpace fucked you up with the top eight. Did you do it? Were you at my space? It was all your top eight. You'd move people. You're getting like a little fight with one friend. You're like, you're at five now, bitch. It really is the cause for a lot of millennial anxiety.

I like stick by that. My own top eight is toxic shit. Like imagine if you write your friends. I don't need that. I don't. I would actually be so better. I'm like such a resentful. person like that though like then I'm like this girl kind of pissed me off today oh yeah because sicilians we never forget yeah so explain the beginning of your youtube journey yeah so my first

video wasn't even on this channel it was on another channel I made in literally elementary school going into middle school how I know vintage right I don't even know how I was always like kind of smart so I feel like that's why I figured out like insert SD card into computer upload this file so you were using like a camera camera like the family camcorder essentially like yeah It was like, I don't even know. I was like, hey, like, is there a camera like digging through like the bin, you know, like whatever like I figured out how to use it. And they, those were like one take like clips, you know, like it was like.

And what were you expressing to the world in these videos? What kind of insight were you bringing to our nation? Well, at that point there was like no, like I was doing like commercials and like skits and whatever. So funny. So comedy. Yeah, I guess like you can go. Yeah.

Sketches. She's doing a little S&L in her bedroom. Yes. Yes. That's amazing. And then we started. to go, like, then I did learn how to edit, but it was like bare bones, like whatever. So then I thought, yeah. So then I thought that I could be like editing music videos.

That was like a trend. It was actually, it's very similar to TikTok now where you like lip sync to a song, but you do like jump cuts and you were like, wait. Do you remember the Miley Cyrus nobody's perfect? Yes. Yeah, that's what I was envisioning you doing just now, like jumping around. It was like, did you have other friends doing it? Yes. Oh, well, they were my video. They weren't necessary. So the thing was like, I was always like the, you know, I'm very like that. I'm like, you guys are going to be in my videos. Like, you know, I'm like the leader.

But that was, you're the creative director. Oh, I was the creative director, the writer, the editor, the producer. You're just like stressed in a corner with like a black hat. Like, the budget has gone over again. Cynthia, get it together. No, I was actually like mean to my friend. Like, I'm glad that they were so friends with me because I was like, do it again. That tape wasn't good enough.

This is not what we practice. And they were like, I thought this was for fun. I was like, this, no, no, no. That's so funny, because I did make my friend do music videos and there's footage of me making my parents watch us dance to gangsters paradise. And they turn the camera to like my grandma who's like dying laughing and you go back to us and we're so serious. And you can tell him like, don't fuck it up. But I think it's just being creative. But the crazy thing is, is you've started to get like some momentum with some of these videos.

Yeah. So that was, then that channel was like, whatever, you know. I mean, there was also some, like, bullying in the mix because like, you know, it's weird to do that back in the day. So then I was, so that was like middle school. And then it was like, oh, YouTube. online or offline or both in person but it wasn't like severe or anything but it was like you know I was like the YouTube kid because I was like I was very early adopter this is like 2010 2011 2012 like no one was on YouTube so like you know my link gets sent around I'm sure the school they're like this girl at my school makes these weird videos yeah yeah so then all my friends were like I don't really want to be in them anymore so I stopped that channel I know I get it but I get it though like I do get it no I mean that makes me sad I always one thing that to this day someone told me that has been helpful is like obviously you're going to have trolls and let them affect you

in any way but don't let them affect your creativity but it sounds like you let it evolve into something else so how did you do it to make it less like people less people will bully me well then I started my um this next channel which was like I found a pocket of YouTube that was more beauty I don't even want to call beauty focus because like who am I like life cell like yeah it was like girls who were like me just in their bedroom talking about their day at school makeup their outfits like whatever it was kind of like a mix of everything and they were like in high school and I was in high school and I looked up to them and I was like I can do this like I did theater you know so I was like I'm going and shit like did you want to be like an actress yes of course because it's

funny I feel like there's two kinds of girls there's the ones who are like wait I actually know everything about fashion and makeup and I'm so beautiful and whatever and it's just so natural for them then there's the girls who are like I need to be in front of the camera and I'm gonna fucking make it happen. I don't know which channel's going to be. But you have a natural, very good stage presence. Oh, thanks. Well, that was my

I was like, whatever means I can do this and this seemed like it was like a popular. I was still, I was interested in those things, but I was by no means like the fashionista, you know? Like, whatever. But it is funny to be like, I'm going to start a fashion. Yeah. I was like, I'm actually, no, this is my brand now. Everyone's like, you just wake up one morning and you're like, yeah,

I'm a makeup editor. Yeah. I like, I always liked makeup. But like I wasn't particularly great at it, you know? But you've leaned into like, well, this is what I do. But I mean, you weren't necessarily like, I'm, this is how you should do it. You're just like, this is how I do it. That's just like what people were doing. And that was like, so I was, I couldn't really think out of the box then, I guess, you know, that's why people who did were so successful, I guess. But I started to follow kind of like what everybody, there was this community at the time of, I wasn't even in it. There was like the bigger people, you know, and there's like the

us who were trying to like climb our way up there. But you would show like, what's in your backpack like cute very like wholesome content that's so cute yeah it was um so i did that through high school and then i guess yeah i got some traction but i like had my job in high school like did my normal life what job did you have i worked at ralphs i said god i mean like a true creative i know my side hustle like ralph was like the one place that when i went in a week's place is lit and then i'd buy all this shit that i would never use but it would like make me feel creative we're talking about the same place wait i'm talking about ralph's like the arts i'm talking about ralph's like the arts I'm talking about Ralph's Italian ice is

Wait, Ralph's Italianis That's amazing I was like creative I was like I mean I guess Wait Ralph's oh my god That is so funny Are you talking about like Michaels? Yeah I was talking about Michael

Honestly Ralph Michael Who the fuck knows at this point All men are the same Wait okay this is even funnier Because Ralph's Italian You knew it because it's like I feel like it's like a Yes. You must have had very strong forearms.

The right arm, I guess. But then I would also, like, go and, like, make myself, like, Sundays every day after school. And I was like, why am I getting away? Probably because I'm having, like, I can make myself anything on the menu at any time. Like, my after school snack was, like, a large Sunday. What was your go-to? Like, what should people get at Rouse? Oh, oh, my gosh. I like, um, it's an ice. It's chocolate brownie. Chocolate fudge brownie. That's the name of it. Yes, it's amazing. Yeah. They happen, like, in the city and stuff. Like, people go. Now, I've heard. Now I see it on TikTok, you know, they'll be like, you got it.

Best soft serve in the city, Ralph. I'm like, you guys, we've been on this. You need to be, like, the spokesperson for Ralph. That's amazing. Okay, so you're working. How were you, like, in terms of, like, did you prefer being at home alone, creating, talking a computer, than socializing? No, I was always really social, though.

Like, that was the thing. Like, I was always very much so, like, I wanted to be with friends and, like, out there and stuff. So I feel like I just, I liked, it's funny. I feel like my energy has declined through the years. Like, I used to love to be so busy. Like, I would want to, like, go to work and then come home and, like, make a video and, like, you know, excel in school, like, be president of all the clubs and whatever. I'm like, how did I?

You're so tired just talking about. Because I feel like you don't even know as a kid that you can get tired. Yes. And then when you're older, like, wait, I could choose to take a nap. That was me in college. Then I had that unlock. And I was like, ooh, but I could just sit in my bed all day. Like, yeah, this is crazy.

So you are making videos in middle school. you're making videos in high school you go to university georgia yes yes go dogs go dogs and you're making continuing making college videos then it switched to like you know the college content on and off through the years i mean i always did it but there would be like i just like i said i you know i left lost my consistency i think well is how important is consistency when creating a youtube channel so that's everything because right now i am wild i will almost four videos in one night, won't see me for like two months. By the way,

Brinning and Halt does have used to channel, check it out. It does? Yeah. I mean, I just started. Oh, okay. Like, I literally just started. And I'm posting shorts of my stand-up, which are doing really well.

On TikTok, we can go into a whole deep dialogue on that. TikTok and Instagram, I, like, really understand. Yeah. But I guess, like, committing to doing YouTube is hard. And I think it's because when people first start, it doesn't just blow up. Oh, no. We're like TikTok, you can start and, like,

go viral. And all of these TikTokers who are trying to go over to YouTube now are having such a hard time. I see them. They've millions of followers. It's also like TikTokers who try to go to podcasting too. That too. Because podcasting in YouTube is more of like a slow growth. But then once you have that growth, it's like super stable because I guess the longer form content. So true. Look at us. We're just, we crack the code. What advice do you have for someone starting a YouTube channel? Okay. I would, we just said to myself. consistent well number one I say with every form of social media obviously it's like originality like actually and you know your mom tells you it's so cliche to be like do your

own thing but there's a million and one I do vlogs mostly there's so many people who do vlog similar to mine and I feel like it gets very copy and paste yeah in terms of we all do the same things you know whatever so let your personality shine like I love watching people that aren't so like vanilla and they aren't just like this is my lip glass like trying to look pretty and cute and hot. Like, it's, like, show us when you wake up in the morning. You know, show us, like, when you're looking a little rough and be, like, honestly, be like, I didn't like this product, you know, I didn't like this thing.

Like, that's what I like when people are very authentic and true to them. I feel like the same thing with, like, making friends or dating. Like, show your X factor. Yes. And yes, some people might not like it, but the people who connect with you are going to be, like, people that connect with you for life. It's so true. And it might not be, and it might take a second to, like, find your footing, too.

With YouTube, you know, some people, like, go into it, start doing vlogs or they start posting one type of thing and they realize they get popular for something else so they have to pivot and like that's cool too and I would say like the patience and consistency took me so many years it was like growing constantly I actually got a job again after college like I worked in corporate for a little bit doing well um sales I did I did sales too do you do call calling yes me too my dad was like the only way to like really get tough is doing co-calling then you could do anything and I was like okay this is horrible it was so bad. But we have the personalities to do it. I actually was doing really well, but I hated it. So I would like hit my quota really early. And then I would just like go to the social media team and like talk shit with them for the rest of the month. Right. Like I was so more interested in the creative. And I'm naturally competitive. But I like, I have another side to myself that I like wanted to explore. I just didn't want to be like. I got that. Wait, how long did you do that job? When I right out of college, I got the cold calling job. It's such.

It's the most common job for like general business majors out of college. And an athlete. I actually was communications, but they love like an athlete. And honestly like I was fucking making good money. And I remember just being like, this is not what I want. And I can't. I had one of those like existential crisis where I was like, I can't do this for the rest of my life.

And then I went into marketing. And then I quit that. And then I started as basically a freelance video producer for Betches when I was 26. Wow. But it took me like six. five years to get there to get there yeah what was your experience with sales it was very short left it was a lot shorter than that i was there for like like six months like not even like very short but i my youtube was like a presence at the time like i was making good money and like enough like i lived

it was in boston i lived in like a one bed that was an obscene amount of money so you'd been making money on youtube for a while i was nothing like it was good money and it was like you know fun money and whatever but it wasn't necessarily like to be able to sustain like I saw the potential but I was like I need to make a little more before I like feel comfortable going off on my own you know especially right out of school you're like I know I'm so I did all this college to do something different totally but it's just great that you found something that you enjoyed what is the secret to like your longevity and staying in it I feel like it's showing all of the stages of my life which I'm really fortunate that my audience likes to see. I really, I've been like so in my head about this because

there are some creators who they lose it all of a sudden, you know, like, or they'll pop up on my page. I'll be, wow, I haven't seen them in forever. Like, what have they been up to? And it's, it's, I guess, kind of introducing your audience to your life in a way that, like, my life is kind of an open door, like through the podcast, through YouTube, through everything. Like, they kind, they know my family. They know my friends. Not all my friends, but like, you know, the ones I choose to show online. The important ones. Yeah. The ones I like the most. So we my MySpace top four. so do you have a way of choosing what you show and what you don't show um do you ever feel guilty

if you're like i don't really want to tell them then sometimes yes like because once you start talking about a topic i feel like it opens the door and like they want more you know what i mean it's like yeah it's like people who post their relationship all the time then they break up and you're like where's the explanation of that because i've had to listen to your fucking odes of fucking love for so long i want the tea and i completely get it because i'm like i'm curious too you know i'm a curious like viewer of others. Do you watch a lot of other YouTube? Yes. I watch a lot of vlogs. I scroll

on TikTok a lot, honestly. How much TikTok do you watch? I'm obsessed with TikTok. I love it so much. I'm researching. I would not call it scrolling. I'm call it researching. Of course. But it's like I not only get inspired by people, but I'm more

just like, mine is like cat videos and like how to get out of depression. Is it really? Like I don't even get stand-up You don't have any comedy. Wow, that's so funny. I do get, like, funny ones, but it's more, like, my own, like, niche of the internet of my, like, unique personality. And then when I put out is, like, what I want to put out into the world.

Understand. It's not always the same. But, yeah, YouTube, I, it's not maybe a tension span. I remember, like, watching some Ember Chamberlain because I was fascinated by her. Are there any creators that you really like on YouTube? Oh, my gosh. This is a great question. Oh, I just did a deep dive on.

That's my thing. Oh, a deep dive. I can't just, like, watch it. video like I have to watch all the videos and I have to get like the comprehensive life story like this is my problem it's not just like oh I've seen one or two like it's like no I've seen all the best is the deep dive of the person's like significant other's brother and you're like how did we get here but I know everything about I have this problem with like their apartments I'm like we're like so this one girl so her name is my fom I am I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly she does

amazing vlogs are just edited so fun very like Gen Z like you know quick cut like you know flashy whatever, which sometimes I'm like not into, but with her, she does such a good job. She's like three million subscribers. I mean, she's killing it. But her apartment, I'm like, I'm like on street easy trying to find it. Like, I'm creepy. So what is your process each week to creating a video? Oh, well, I post two a week.

To creating two videos. I know. No, it's okay. That's incredible. To be fair, my videos aren't like productions though. Like that's the thing. That's what I want to know. Yeah.

Because, yeah, like my, I posted a TikTok last night of just a joke I thought. of took three seconds versus like a man on the street that takes like forever yeah and it doesn't mean one is going to do better than the other totally so i just know it's two videos a week and it's kind of like plugging in if i i have like a list of running videos that aren't vlogs and then most of them are vlogs and then within the vlogs i have a list of like you know topics that i could talk about or if it's like showing you know my updated makeup routine or doing a talk about like body image or whatever it is now you're inspiring me to want to start one i would I would kill to see a hana birder day in life week in my life like I would love to see that.

It's like me with my cat. You said before you took a nap, you're like, I literally had two meetings today and I call it meetings, but I was on the phone for an hour. And then I was like, I need to take a nap. This is like so. But like I would love to see that. People would love to see that though. This is my question. What do you like hold a camera?

Yeah. I have it in my bag. I'll show you later. Like it's like a, it has like the flip up screen. It's big. It has a wide shot. And yeah, like I just show my life. And it's not, you know, the finished product will probably be between three days of

filming, maybe like 20 to 30 minutes of footage. This one will be? And then you sit down and edit it? I have an editor. So that is what, like, I completely, yeah. So you found someone who understands your tone, understands the vibes. When do you start working with them? That was it.

So a few years ago, she started editing some. And then we like slowly build to like, yeah, because you need trust in that. Yeah. That's amazing. Because I have a friend who, yeah, she found someone who does it. and it's awesome because right now like I edit Giggly Squad. I have someone who edits burning in hell

and because I love editing too. You do? What do you use? I'm a Premiere Pro. Oh, okay. Go ahead. I'm not like amazing at Premier Pro but I'm good enough. But like I edit all my stand-up. Like I just love editing but I'm at the point in my career where it's like you gotta outsource some shit because I would literally be like I got to go home to edit a podcast

and edit these three videos and my husband will be like you need to sleep. And I'm like, believe me. I have enough naps. So you get all the content and then you send it to them. How picky are you in the revision process? I used to be more picky and I've once again, you learn to let go. I feel like with outsourcing. I used to be very strict with myself too with outsourcing and I used to be like, no,

like I get it done the best, like very much so. And over time you learn to trust others more. They learn your style like whatever. And I've just learned that like what is, you know, what is the difference going to make in one little like text thing in a 20 minute long video? you know like I'm not going to it's better to just get the video up than to be so particular about it like the loyal viewers which most of my audience is like people who come back I wouldn't say that like I'm growing right now but I would say I have such like a loyal audience like that it's more so like they just want to see a vlog like they don't need to see the perfect blog they don't need to see it be like you're like calling your friend in the middle of the week and being like how are you. It's a check in. Some people are just your comfort people. It's like turning on a podcast and you just like feel it you like their aura. like their vibe you feel like it's like that friend's living room that when you sit in you like the smells I don't know but I totally get that they call it um the comfort influencer this is like they have a

phrase for it now they're comfortable I mean I feel like I like people say my voice is common I'm like well that's wild because the energy behind it is frenetic but you must have like a like do you listen to a lot of podcasts like anything you throw on to like feel good I actually the I listen to like entrepreneurial podcast okay but otherwise like I don't listen to podcast I think it's because I'm either like creating yeah or creating like I'm always just creating and sometimes I don't like subconsciously being influenced by people who do similar things I get that I mean already whenever I'm on my podcast I'm like on TikTok this happen tick like that happened I'm like okay I'm just literally reading my TikTok videos at this point so I actually don't and even stand up sometimes you don't want to

listen to too many people's other jokes because you subconsciously start like thinking similarly and I like to really try to have like you just a unique perspective. perspective on it. I completely get that. Sometimes I'll think of something and I'll be like, I don't know if this is an original idea or if I acquired this from someone, you know, and then you don't know who to give credit to. But then also with, there is that like overarching like pattern where it's like, what's in my bag? And it's like, yeah, that's something that's been done a million times before. How do I make it myself? Or seeing a funny sound on TikTok. I love when I see a sound and it and it makes me think of a very specific memory to me. And then you post it

and you realize you're not alone with it. And it's a shared experience. Yeah. I'm also at the point as someone like I've done you know like cable TV like I've had talk show I've had whatever reality TV and like it's funny because you're on YouTube like I'm TikTok Instagram and it's like you chase to like do TV but like people on TV want to have the kind of engagement that you have on a video so true and recently you know I'm auditioning and trying to like see different things of like TV shows and stuff and then you're like wait I have my own TV show right here once you have that moment you're like damn like it kind of like freeze you in a way that yes I have friends who have gotten TV shows and they're literally like hand is no one watch no one's watching them

this is a waste my time the money's not even that good and it's like we almost have to change the idea of what success is because you literally have your own reality TV show that you get to edit I get to produce I get to edit I get to write and like I don't have to worry about perceptions of me because like I'm putting out the perception I guess essentially. And I feel like it's so much easier to deal with hate when you're like, well, that's me that I put out there. But if someone were to like skew how you are and then people hate you, you're like, but that was it. You know what I meant when I said that. No, completely. How does your boy toy feel about the public eye? He, so like he's not really in my stuff. And that's kind of a mix of like his opinion and my opinion. I once again, I try not to make it too involved because if anything were to ever happen, like I wouldn't want it to be like a huge piece of my personality. But at the same time, like, we've been dating for a year. Like, I want people to, like, know that I'm, like, coffee and, like, whatever. And it starts to become your life. Like, you get really immersed in him.

Totally. Oh, completely. Yeah. Yeah. I've caught myself saying, like, our plans for New Year's are. I'm like, I'm going to actually go, like, snap myself right now. Like, I don't know why. I've never been this girl. Like, who am I?

But he feels great. He's so supportive, like, so everything about it. What industry is he in? He's in med school. Oh, my God. How cute. I really like that. Yeah.

Very, very different. And it's really nice because I feel like we both have like mutual respect for like the other person in a way that like I was like I'm like you respect what I do. But your job is very time consuming too. We're like you can be working all night filming something. Yeah. And he can be studying all night and it's not like a nine to five type thing. Yeah. No, it's good.

It's been hard to. This is my first serious relationship. And it was hard to find someone I think beforehand. I had people that I dated that were either too interested. And then I had people that were not interested and like would be like that's a job. Like what that you know? It's like you have, this is your first serious relationship. Yeah, yeah.

So it's, I know, I'm really, as in you've had a lot situationships in the past. A lot. Those are way harder than real relationships. Because those, you don't know the game. Yeah. And you also don't really know the guy until he's like fully committed. And then it's easier to break up because you're like, I know all of him.

I know what it's like to like be with him. And it's not that great instead of filling in the blanks with situationships. Like he would have been, he would have turned it to a perfect guy if he had loved me. Do you have any advice for the girlies in the, New York City. It was not related to. Yeah. No, it was. I was literally about to say, like, I know where you're going with this because the next pandemic in New York City is situation chips. Like, everyone is trapped in them because I guess, like, it's hard to date here. And, you know, people who, it's hard

to date everywhere. Like, yeah. But here, for some reason, I have the most amazing friends, like, such, you know, talented, entrepreneurial, like, just great women that I'm like, why is it so hard? Like, where are the good guys, you know? I know. I 100% feel that way. I have this thing in my head. I call the Rolodex where you know when you meet a girl or a woman and she's like it. Like she's so great. And I'm like, and I ask her, are you single? And she'll be like, yeah, I can't find someone. I immediately put her in my head as my rolodex so that if I end up like, I'm trying to live vicarcy do them, but I'm like if I meet a guy that I think is hot and I think is like sperm donor potential. I like because I do think everyone needs to help out. Like you see how. those people like friends of friends and sometimes they'll hate you because they'll be like what you send me up on that but I mean sometimes there might be like that have you had a successful setup? I've had two

wow I've had three but two were on purpose okay two would like you two like go out and like yeah okay yeah like my I was living with two dudes it started it was when I first out of college it was me my friend Becca and these two guys I started dating one of the guys we broke up we moved into a new place me my friend Becca and this guy. Becca leaves, his best friend moves in. Next, you know, it's me and two

fucking finance bros. And I'm like, how did I end up in a fraternity? And I meet a girl named Haley on an elevator and I got, and her and Dave got married. So, I'm going to heaven. You have done your service. Like, honestly, like, yeah. I'm good. I'm done. We can just thank you. It's true. But I do think, like, I don't even know. I feel like our gals on the go. Yeah. It, there's an excitement. around it and I love just like I feel like people love your friendship and people like my friendship with page and there's like this X Factor that's the word we keep using this episode that people love but I feel like there's some way that we have all these like really hot successful single

girls that listen that I'm like there has to be a way that we could get some kind of like dating pool organized like everyone has to bring a hot friend yes but then I get nervous because I'm like if he's that hot why aren't you dating him or like you've like don't bring or something in the past exactly there has to be something but I just feel like we've created these communities and I want to be able to organize it in some capacity. That would be great. Some kind of dating thing. Some sort of crossover dating event.

Or like a speed dating event and we like the week. It becomes like exclusive nightclub. We look the guys up and down. We're like, do you go to therapy? Next. Yes. I don't know. We'll figure it out.

I'm manifesting. But how did you meet your guy and what was the dating process like? We met on locks club. So it's a true thing. Oh, Locks Club. Okay. So you're the face of Locks Club and Ralph. I have been sponsored for the Lox Club.

Well, yeah. I like literally. harassed them. I was like, um, guys, like, well, I harassed them to get on the app. And then I, yeah, yeah. Well, I got on like the beta stages of the app. So I like, literally was DMing them. I was like, hey, can you accept me? Yeah, yeah. She's great. So then I finally got in, did the stuff with them. And then I was working with them. And then I was going to the events or whatever. But I didn't meet him at an event. We went just like on a date. I replied to one of his prompts because I'm, you know, I'm like that. I just like, I'm such an initiator. And then I didn't

reply for a week. Don't advise doing this. I don't know why. Because I just, I just, would only check my dating apps like once a week. Would you ever, you never really did dating apps like. Oh, no, no, no, I fully did dating apps. But I would go like all in. Like I was addicted to it. Like it's a game. Yeah, it's a game that I wanted to win until you have like a really bad day and then

you have to delete it. And then it was literally like an addiction. I was doing like a like a literally game on my phone in the subway. Hinge. I met this guy British Dave on Hinge who was amazing, great guy. I've met some, but yeah, so many lockslap seems so cool. and I'm like part Jewish and I like met them at South by Southwest and I was talking about and I'm like this so cool I mean I went once in Austin at a conference and the founders like dating every like hot girl that's what in the spot like Camila and before he was with another one but anyway I met them they were so cool and I kept talking to them and my manager was like Hannah you're married like why are you trying to get involved with this app but I do love love yeah no it's a great it's a cool app like I was just willing to try anything at that point like a hinge was like a hinge with you're married like I'm trying to get involved with this app but I do love love yeah no it's a great it's a cool app like I was just willing to try anything at that point like a hinge kind of dead. I was like, I don't know what I'm doing. What was different about him as opposed to

other dudes that you'd situated with? I just felt comfortable to be me. Like, I feel like I was just like very like me and like, you know, myself from the beginning. And that's true. I feel like sometimes in the public, people think I have my shit more together. And then I get home with my husband. And I'm like, me, my little baby. I'm sitting on the couch. I'm like, more water, more water. And I'm like with ice with ice like you know I'm like this strong independent woman I'm like what huh I can't take two steps to get my own water this is what I always say to my husband I because I'm not necessarily caretaker I'm not necessarily domesticated I don't know if people still use that word but I was like look I cannot be brilliant hysterical gorgeous and take out the trash like take delete

one if you want the trash but I can't do it all yes women can't have it all we can't have most of it, but I can't, like, I'm not also, like, bringing that dish into the dishwasher. It's simply not fair. Like, we can't carry all of that on the back. I have so much going on right now. Yeah, I'm really busy. I'm super busy. It was great, though, dating him and everything. So I just feel like it felt different from the beginning. Like, I never had to worry. I used to have the worst dating anxiety. Like, I would be so in my head after the date and be like, will I hear from him again, you know, like, I think I actually had like that anxious attachment style. And then I don't know if it healed itself or whatever. But somehow, all of a sudden with him, like, I didn't have to

worry about things. Did anxiety is real. I'll see some TikToks of people talking about like when he hasn't responded and it's been two hours. That could ruin a week. It would ruin me that. Like I don't even know how I survived. I was so dramatic too.

Like I would just be like calling my friends like stopping it. Like it's all over. Like it never started. It was like, no. I remember you go on a good date and then you get your playlist on and about like love and you're like walking like, Daddy's home home for me. like we're together and then you like never hear from it again and you have to go from like the highest high to but I love my life like that I mean they're like the highest high or the lowest low

we love the drama that's what I think it is because we could just be like yeah that was a good day but instead we're like I'm gonna marry him and then you're like my heart will never recover and then it's like for the story of like telling your friends you're like it was the best date ever like and you have to romanticize the hell out of it you're like he little he took my chair out he let me sit down like me in a way I've never been looked at before And I'm like, he blinked. Yeah. He blinked.

He had something in his eye and he scratched it. That's so funny. How's your mental health? What's going on? It's good. I feel like I probably have, I mean, I know I have like some form of anxiety. Like therapist has told me that, but I don't, it's not like, it's manageable. It's not spiking right now.

No, it's good. Yeah. I'm good. I feel like I'm just always a very, like, hash-dust person. Actually, we're working on, which I need to consult you on this because you guys are like CEOs of the live shows. Oh, yeah. Page.

Oh, my gosh. but Danielle and I were having our first live show and I'd like feel like a lot more stress about it than I expected. You know, I was like, oh, we're going to go and have a good time. And now I'm like every little detail. I'm like, oh, but what happens at minute 32? Like, why am I being so crazy? I don't know.

Yeah, it's the unknown. Yes. But one thing people don't factor in like I say this was people stand up would be like, how do you remember all of it or like how do you speak from all those people? You're not doing a monologue. True. It is a dance between like your two energies. And when you get on stage, you're going to feel this.

crazy energy from the crowd that's like literally saying tell me let me laugh at it and then you're going to give it to them and they're going to accept it and send it back to you and it becomes this like beautiful dance where when you're just planning it it seems like okay so we're just going to be awkwardly standing up there saying stuff of people it that's not the vibe and also like these people want to see you and they're rooting for you and it becomes more like like a like a cult of like all these people who have like the same sense of humor and I actually feel like people become friends going to these shows and also like lean in like we get like makeup artist we get like oh yeah like photos shoot it's all about the shoot before the show we get like we were like are you

ready and we're like on psych pages like having a solo shoot in the bathroom right now so it's it's more like like in these moments me and you were just talking we really forget that people are listening I totally forget but when you do the live show you you feel like holy fuck people are listening do you feel like a real celebrity in those moments are you like I am famous kind of like a a musician. Really? The sound you feel when you go on stage, I'm like, do I just belt out a Mariah Carey song right now?

Like, people are like, but it is, for someone who's always behind a screen, like us, yes, yes. I feel like it's really good for your mental health. Page talks about, like, you know, Justin Bieber says, like, he gets so much adrenaline and dopamine from these, like, huge performances he, like, can't get normal levels of dopamine anymore. She always joke. She's like, I feel like Justin Bieber.

I can never recover. That high is going to be so high. Like, one night she called me. me, when we got back to our town, she's like, I feel like I'm, like, getting off a drug right now. Oh, my gosh. But, like, you get this addiction of being on stage. Yes. But I feel like, look, these people are so connected to you and to see you in person.

And for you to, like, see them in person is really powerful. This really just hype me up. Like, I really needed to hear that. Thank you. And you're also a performer. Yeah. No, I'm really excited. I've been, like, this has always been the dream.

Yeah. Like, whenever we would meet with, like, agents, whatever, they'd be like, what's your wildest dream? We're like, we want to be on stage. Like, you know, and now it's happening, but now I'm like, oh, shit, it's happening, you know. So you and Danielle met in Georgia. No. Oh, we met before.

I know, because we both were vintage YouTubers. Oh, my. So you guys are, like, homies. We've been friends for, like, 10 years. Yeah. How has your friendship slash business relationship intertwined? How have the ups and downs been? Do you have any advice?

It's grown. Like, I would say it's exponentially grown because even when we were still, like, first friends, like, we lived in different states. And then I am two years older. So I went to Georgia. Danielle came and visited me. And then applied, got in, whatever, like, ended up there. And then I would say even through the years of school together, like, I was a junior,

she was a freshman. Like, we didn't start the podcast yet that year. But we were just good friends. We traveled a lot together for work because we would do, like, events and stuff on the weekends. Yeah. And just kind of like our friendship naturally grew. And then we were like, hey, would you want to, like, do a project together? And, like, the idea of a podcast came up.

I mean, the fact that you guys lived in different states, when, through like no romance or relationship gets through that kind of traveling then you both move to New York city like that's crazy yeah are you like soul sisters are she like your number one best friend or is she like just a really special person that you've done all these things with no I do think she like she is like my like my best day I mean yeah are do believe that you can have multiple best friends no you think it's one well I in moments in my life I like to have like that one person gotcha but I do like page says everyone's her best friend but like I'm her best friend yeah i can't handle too many friends gotcha too many best friends i don't really have too many friends either

but like i would say i probably have like three you know people in my life then i'm like okay i mean like when i had my bachelor party i was like wait like i love all of you so much from different times in my life in different ways and then they all get along and then you're like so happy oh my i can't wait to plan your betcha just get me amazing you want to come yeah i'm down i mean salami squad let's go um we called it the salami squad because we threw salami in each other's mouths it was a whole thing as a pizza bagel you would appreciate it that sounds amazing it was like slow-mo of everyone do you the video of this yes girl why have i not seen it it's it's it did it was like part of my bachelette ticot but the real funny thing is did you ever see my pizza bagel video

i did i remember the one that was like yeah what is it oh a slut yeah it's like a pizza bagel um and other people call me a slut and i posted it and it starts doing well i didn't realize on ticot like how to see that people are stitching it a lot but people started stitching it in the funniest ways where like they'd cut off the joke part of mine and be like well i'm half this half this people call me this and it got so insane really yeah and i like lost track of it i you know you kind of like were the trend i don't know now i'm i'm actually really excited about youtube now i'm like wait i love youtube because i love editing i love creating videos that's awesome I mean, if you could stick with, like, actually doing it.

I mean, kudos to you. But for me, it's, like, more practical for, like, me looking at you, like, being like, hey, if I want to really lean into YouTube, like, just hire someone, like, be like, I'm going to commit to the bit, like, do a video a week, whatever it is. I'm not editing that shit. But I actually, I have a Gen Z correspondent who I think would be really good. So Giggly Squad, we have this girl Elena, who I hired because when we were doing Instagram live, she would send me, she'd make memes.

She would just make me laugh. Like, I was like, this girl's freaking funny. Oh, that's great. And then I just was like, hey, you're our social media intern. And now she's our CEO. Oh, so she actually like, wow, she just made it all the way. Yeah, she was great. And people are always like, how do we work for you?

And I'm like, honestly, you just have to make me laugh really hard. That's great. Because also in comedy, like if you hire someone who's not funny, there's so many things, like, I need them to be able to see. I need them to be able to edit and cut at the right spots. They need to be able to, they need to be very multifaceted, actually. Yeah. But some people, they just have that kind of like creative minds. The spark.

Yeah, they either have it or they don't. Yeah. Okay, it's time to play The Seven Deadly Sins. Seven Deadly Sins. What are you greedy about? I mean, I hate to say money, but like, honestly, in this phase of my life, like, I have been, I've been a little, I've been a little greedy about money. Like, you want to make money. I really just, you know what inspires me when I go literally in the summer when I went to the Hamptons.

and I saw all these mega mansions and I saw these people living in them I was like I don't want to be the freaking wife I want to like I want that to be me like I want that to be like use the cash use the house like my live there like yeah yes I also think like in your 20s any money people start accumulating like start investing it now because like it is the earlier you invest it just like keeps multiplying exponentially I didn't like start making money until I don't know like recently and so it's good to like I see now it's like fucking invest early on and yeah you'll be a sugar mom in no time is that weird to admit like I feel like some people are so weird about the money conversation but at the same time it's like I'm just being like that's real you know like doesn't everybody kind of wanted to some extent I think it's super powerful and women need to talk more about money for sure totally especially in the influencer game I'm like do you guys realize that the more people who are undercutting themselves undercuts other people and you ever think about like how much money brands pay for like a TV spot or like a paper magazine ad that like people are not

reading versus a person who's literally going to create a whole like be a director and editor and actor. That's the theme of this episode. And people are going to trust it and you're going to pay us $200. But I'm saying it's smart. Or they'll just send you the product so you could try it and feature it in your content. Also you've been putting your face out there for so long. You did like a throwback video recently of you as a little girl. I literally was crying because we all have those videos where at the time you know, you were like, this is epic. That was my clapback. It was like me talking about hate. I was like, yeah, that's what it was. I got one, I don't even remember what the comment was. But I was like, you know who you are and you're stupid. That's what the video.

You're like, subsip and haterate. That is amazing. How have you dealt with your confidence levels over time as like putting yourself out there in the internet, letting people just like judge your actual real life all the time. Oh my gosh. This is another thing that I go through faces with. Do you ever like lay in bed and like have an existential crisis? Like I am over exposed. Yes. Okay. Because I like that happens sometimes. And then sometimes I'm like it's a thin line. It's like the here, the God complex versus like it's either like I'm changing the world by putting out my insecurities and then you're like, I embarrass myself completely. And I'm really bad about gauging it based on people's reactions. I'm like, if I get like a ton of positive comments, I'm like, I am literally

like more powerful than like God. Like I am. And then if it's bad, I'm like, okay, I don't need to like exist anymore, basically. I'm really bad about like, I'm working on that with my therapist right now. Like my inner voice and just trusting my, like I'm the kind of person that let's say I want to get out of a party or something, but I told them I would go. I have to like ask my husband or my friend be like, is it fucked up if I cancel? We're like, If they say it's okay, then I'm okay with it. But I have to work on me being like, no, I have boundaries and I'm not a bad person. If I decide that I don't want to do something.

I don't need someone else being like, it's okay. The validation, yeah. Yeah. And then if you could get out of that validation phase, then you honestly are more creative. Yeah. No, you're, I noticed that when I'm like doing better at my job and just, yeah, whether that's like getting followers or like just better responses to everything is when I'm in my, I don't give a fuck era. Like, if I actually care, like, I'm putting out, like, mediocre content. I feel like because I'm, like, filtering myself without even realizing it.

Yeah. You know? What do you feel about the expectations of beauty that have evolved over time? Because you've been on camera for a long time and you've seen the trends of, you know, makeup, plastic surgery. I mean, some of these, like, filters and shit. Oh, yeah. What's your experience? People have a – the filters is, like, such a big conversation, right?

Especially the subtle ones. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's the ones on TikTok that, like, you know, people have no makeup on, but use the makeup filter. And I'm like, whoa, like, you got a, you got a face transplant. Yeah. It's not so. So I don't really use them too much.

But at the same time, like, if I, like, do I. And it almost like makes you unique when you don't use it that much. Because in my head, I like, I get a good vibe from your videos, I feel like, because I feel like it symbolizes. I always say real, recognize real. And like, even if you have a ton of work done or it's like, as long as you're like up front about it. Totally. I mean, I, like, I get, I have a nose job, I had a nose job, and I get, like, a little bit of Botox and stuff like that. But then I don't, then I'm like, oh, then I don't filter

myself. But I also show myself when I first wake up in the morning, when I have acne and, like, whatever. Like, if you want to see me, like, I'll watch my blogs. Like, I mean, it's there. You're not hiding. There's nothing to be hid. Certain thing. When did you get your nose job? 2016. A long time ago. Yeah. Yeah. I was, I would have kind of even earlier if I could have. So you had a good experience with it. I did. I know some people, like, don't and they have to get a second, a third, like, revisional, whatever. I, God bless.

When did you start feeling insecure about it? Young, like really young. I remember, like, I just felt like it never fit my face. It looks so natural and it looks amazing. I'm like, let me just show off my profile a little. No, it looks so good. No, I went to Dr. Marado on Long Island. He did a phenomenal job.

Because, yeah, sometimes you could, like, really see, like, okay, someone made that nose where, like, your nose looks so good. Well, some people even would comment. and be like, I don't see a change. And I'm like, that's fine. That's good, actually. Yeah, yeah. Very subtle.

Like, I noticed because it's my face. And it immensely, that changed my life too. Because some people, when you have your face on camera so much, you start saying things that you never saw. Like, I got invisible. After, like, doing all these Instagram lives. Because I was like, when did my bottom teeth become that crooked? When, like, I just never knew.

But, like, I wasn't talking. You know, when you look in the mirror, you're just like, perfect. But I was talking to the camera. And then I was like, holy fuck, why is that tooth? like a snaggle tooth but but then there's still different things you're like is it me or is it actually

like am I actually insecure about it or am I just like playing tricks with and thinking you should be insecure about it exactly I get that I feel like you have to do whatever like works for you you know and honestly I don't even judge like I'm not going to sit here and be like filters are toxic like if that works for you that's fine

I feel like filters they're like I don't think there's one way to define I love a Paris filter I'll tell you that right Right now. I love a Paris filter. My thing is, do I look amazing in filters? Absolutely. I feel like I will start hating myself more in real life the more filters you use. Because it's like, you know, if you like never get your nails done, you're like, these are my nails are so cute. Then you start getting your nails done. And then you take the polish off and you're like, what the hell is that? And suddenly you're like, I never had this insecurity before, but now I have it. My nail beds are weird. That was me when I got my hair extensions taken out. Like I never thought that that was some, like a hair was never something that I was concerned with and then all of a sudden I was like matter's pretty thin like you know you start thinking about it more so yeah sometimes it's like society putting on you but then sometimes like something might bother me about myself that no one

else notices and if you want to like change that like get extensions or get inviseline or like do some Botox then that's okay but it's like yeah I've been having this like relationship with beauty and plastic surgery for a long time I used to be like really against it like I would yell at people on my podcast I'd be like really I would just be like if you you're going to get, you know, fake boobs or if you're going to do stuff to your face, like, look internally first. Yeah. Which, like, I still stand by. But now, it's like, then I turn 30. I'm like, guys, Botox is really good. Like, actually, it's healthy and recommended by a doctor. Actually, I haven't gotten it. But, like, I totally now understand, like, if I do or why people do it.

Yeah. I get that too. And I think that it's, I find that it's a better position to sit in to not be judgmental about it and I used to be like I feel like I used to have weird lines with it like maybe it's like internalized misogyny too to be like oh you need to look so pretty like it's a weird reverse misogyny it definitely is because I used to judge girls who would want to get like a boob job I'd be like they look fake and unnatural but it's like honestly I see them and I'm like they look good like I don't know what switch but also why the fuck doesn't matter like I'm no one's forcing me to get one I guess I get mad that like guys don't have as much pressure and that's why I like making like I used to like making fun of short kings and stuff

but it's my own inner anger of like women have to like have all these things perfect and you guys can't even get made fun of her being short totally but now I realize like okay that's me and so we're evolving we're learning we're growing but yeah we are in entertainment and there's there's just like I don't want women to go too far and there's also like it's almost like with success

you know like you get something you're like I want more I do agree with that a little bit I've never smoked a cigarette because I'm like really I'll just I'm so, I don't trust myself. I'll be like, then I need to be the best cigarette smoker in the world. And I like cigarettes today. You're like, chain smoking. Yeah, so I'm like, if you're going to change one part, like, why not continue changing?

Like, where does it stop? I do agree with that. And people will say that, like, no, it's not. I do agree that it's kind of like, then you start looking at yourself and you're like, whatever. Especially when you have a doctor who's like, oh, and then it's cool. Like, they're trying to make money. Exactly.

And they're like, yeah, you'd look so much better with this or with that. And then we don't have our own inner voice. So I'm just like, yes, doctor, whatever you. It's good for me. But anyway, no, that was really insightful. I like that a lot. Who are you envious of? Oh, my gosh.

Who am I envious of? This is the other thing. With doing YouTube and everything, like, I'm happy with my own level of success and everything. But I guess I would always say, of course, you're always going to be envious to people that are slightly more successful than you were, like, doing what you do. But I don't want to say better. But yeah, like to a larger scale.

Well, you're like in the same lane. Yeah, because I don't really see myself like, I, you know, it's not like I'm over here. Like, and now I want to be a host or anything like that. Like, I'm good. I'm happy to like continue on this trajectory. But I think it would be cool to like have a business or something someday too. So let's just say like, you know, like a brand or something.

Yes. So they're like my besties. And I do see you guys going that kind of trajectory where like they'd been making so much money for other brands, like selling out stuff that they finally were like, why don't we make our own sex story company? and it's like crushing it. And I feel like you guys have such good taste and people trust you so much that I could totally see you guys launching a kind of product and people just becoming obsessed with it. That's like, that would be like the dream. Yeah.

So someone like, like, do you know who Mariana Hewitt is? Yes. Like her. Like she's like, she actually started on YouTube. I never really like watched her videos. But yeah. She was like an OG like makeup blogger. And now she has this like, not that I see myself doing makeup or skincare or whatever,

but like something like that where it's still doing the original thing. yeah but it's like another component to it how do you because you've been doing it for so long in those moments that you're like i'm not in the mood how do you motivate yourself oh oh my gosh like honestly by being like this is like i don't want to say money or like this is my job or whatever but like guilt almost like no but it's your job yeah like it's a job that's exactly what it is yes you are your boss so like the boss can be lazy completely yeah i found that having like the hard deliverables for myself each week, like, does help me stay on track. Do you have days off that you're like, I'm not doing shit? Never, like, officially. Like, I'm not just like, oh, it's Sunday and day off.

Like, I probably am vlogging, you know. Do you ever feel pressure to be more fun than you are because you're vlogging? Because that would, I'd be like, to be more fun in the blogs, do you mean? Like, like, like, if I'm like, I have to vlog my week, I'd be like, oh, I guess I should go the farmer's market. Yes. No, I definitely do feel that like, but it probably is good for your mental help. Like, I should leave my apartment today. Yeah. That's exactly it. Like, I'm like, I'm Like, what do people want me to be like? Yeah, and they'll be like, we love when you go out and abound and do stuff. I'm like, damn it.

Like, why don't you like when I sit at home? I just like to be in my pajamas. Are people ever weird with you filming, like, in vintage stores or like, I'm trying to think at, like, in public places? I've gone in trouble a few times. Yeah. Because my camera, I'll show to you, it's not like a little tiny, like, iPhone thing. Like, it's like a unit.

So it's kind of like, oh, what does she film? You have a whole film crew. Like, you're like, get this banana. Get it. When's the last time you experience extreme wrath or anger? Ooh. Oh my gosh. Probably my brother on our Thanksgiving trip, actually.

Oh, I like that. He's the person that gets, I don't know, family. Do you have a younger brother? He's the one person that will make me irrationally angry. Like, I love him so much, but I also like, yes. You know, do you feel this way too? Well, he's like the one person where like, I don't think about my tone with. Yeah.

Like, everyone else will filter the tone with him. I'll be like, really? Really? And he's like, I literally just made a comment about your dress. But he does the same. But then my brother will give me the same energy back as the thing. Like he doesn't just, he won't just sit there and be like, they know what pisses you off. I have a younger brother and he, I would always get in trouble because I'd eventually snap when I'm like, he's the one doing it.

He wanted to get me. He fuck. Anyway. Yeah. And he's like cute. So like he'd always win. Well, it was last time you were a sloth. So like didn't do anything all day.

Ooh. Oh my God. Are you a morning person? Not necessary. Okay. Like, what do you consider morning? Like, like, some people are like, I wake up at 8 a.m. and I drink my macha. is 8 a.m. a morning for

actually for a standout I'm like different standup comics where like bartenders were like yeah you're up all night though you're up all night so then like it's really hard to get going in the morning okay I'm like I wake up I would say between like 7 to 8 but it's not really morning you're like I'm not Gary V but I do wake up

yeah I'm not like out here like do have you seen the guy Tim on TikTok who does like the day in his life with his family oh no oh okay I'll show you him after he's like oh is that with like the dad and the yes and he's like this is a day in your life in your 40s He wakes up like 4.30 and like, I can't believe there are people in the world that do this for fun. I did recently. I was listening to the woman. Fuck, what's her name? Catherine Power, I think. She's the founder of like Merit Beauty. Wait, I'm literally the Merit lip gloss aimed at my back.

She's amazing. And they were like, too many advice. She's like, I wake up at 5 a.m. And I was like, turn it off. Unrelated. You're like, I listen to a lot of entrepreneurial podcasts. Like, I've listened to that night, turn them off and I don't agree with it. I'm like, that's funny. Not me. No, I'm a sloth quite often. I would actually, like, argue to say. Yeah. Well, you're always. working in your head so sometimes I'll just be exhausted and people like you didn't do anything I'm like I've actually been like thinking a lot and that's the thing

with vlogging like it's kind of like documented like Tuesday you didn't leave your apartment but I worked but also the pressure of like posting and the response and checking analytics that is like a stress response that takes a toll yeah it's definitely a lot on like doing this job and people are like it's so easy whatever

it's a lot on your mental health like in various ways like from the comments to comparing yourself to past versions of yourself like it's a lot it's a little oh compare yourself to past versions what do you mean by that looking if you look at old pictures or videos or the performance like I noticed like you know maybe year ago my videos were doing better I'm like okay so everybody hates me now like you know you start to spiral and be like okay so I don't have a job anymore I mean it's like that's literally what where was the jump that's really powerful yeah because I look back with rose

color glasses a lot oh that things were better in the path yeah yeah same like something will happen to me it's super traumatized and I'll be like the innocent Hannah before that and then you have to remember like you're literally so much stronger now yes like you would literally help that girl even though you think she's like innocent because she hasn't gone through certain shit it's like no you're so much more evolved where sometimes i'm like i miss when i was just like silly and i'm like you are silly exactly but you can confuse yourself totally to like be jealous of your past self or i'll be like i was you know doing better back then like i was more productive like my videos were better like whatever it was and meanwhile then i'll watch it i'll be like it's really not better

Or you'll be looking at a photo and you're like, oh, I look so pretty there. And then it's like, no, no, really look at it. You hated the guy you were with. You did not want to be out that night. Like, let's really think. You're so right. But it's so easy to be like, oh, she was perfect back then. Calm down.

Once last time you let your pride or your ego get in the way of something. Oh, my gosh. I feel like as a YouTube, like, veteran. You literally are. I could see it being like, I'm not doing that or I'm not whatever. Actually, like, I will say it comes in the way sometimes in terms of, like, what you're saying, like, the outsourcing of tasks. Like, I've gotten a little too comfortable with all of that. And I'll be like, well, I don't need to do it anymore, like, whatever it is.

And so, yeah, I would say that my ego gets in the way sometimes where I feel like I've, I'm past that. But I'm like, no, girl, like, that's, you know, you still need to be doing some things. Yeah. I can't just outsource my entire life. Like, no. But I do think, like, it's hard because outsourcing is so smart. I know, I know. But it's like you outsource to be able to give yourself the energy to, like, do other things you want to do.

Not necessarily work, but even like so I'm more present in my relationship or like so I can go to the gym when I want to go if you go to the gym. You're right. Or even just complaining about like, I'm sure you've done this too, to like your parents or people who you love. Like I'll complain. I'll be like, and I'm so busy and I have to film and whatever. And they're like, girl, check yourself. Like you have to film for brand deals that are companies that are paying you money to do that. Like, you're good.

Yeah. I'm like, you're so right. Like I do need to. Yeah, finding that perspective. It is, because I always say, like, I'm the manager of my company. I manage my own emotions every day. But it's like, you don't have coworkers to, like, bitch to you. So instead you just, like, bitch to yourself.

Yes. You're like, wake up and you're like, we have to do this. Like, they're making me film this damn video. Like, I have to put on makeup. Yeah. No. But I just say to my own head, like, I'm not actually, you know. Perspective.

It's all perspective. It's going to have the wake up call. And I'm like, this is, like, what I wanted to do my entire life. Like, I'm good. Yes. When was last time you lusted over someone? So besides your boyfriend. Do you have like a celebrity crush?

Oh my gosh. Not like celebrity crush. I feel like there's been people, especially like the New York City scene that I like want to be friends with or whatever that I'm trying to think of like specific instances. But yes or like people that I'm like, oh, I hope that they like follow me back or whatever. Yeah. Does that count as a loss? Yeah.

Was New York City living in New York City everything you thought it would be? Yes, it is. What do you think? Well, it's hard because like I'm from here. But I'm like Brooklyn. Like I didn't, I went to school in Manhattan for two years. like my last year was in high school but like I and I was a tennis player so I never like really was in the scene and then I don't I'm not like a huge party or even though I was on a

party team show I had my years you're a veteran but it makes me feel like I love when girls romanticize New York City like my movie and then everyone's like loving to see like your New York City apartment like I love that because I take it for granted and then I'm like wait I live in New York fucking city but I forget and I just I love them people I love New York City more than it's starting to like the romanticization of it is starting to like fade away but I will say in terms of like the people and the opportunities and all that stuff like it has been I don't think that I would be where I'm at if I lived in Kansas you know the energy is fucking insane but that's crazy because I have like stand-up comedy friends who are living in like Indiana and they're crushing it on TikTok and normally you would never make it in stand-up unless you move to New York or LA but we're in this new time we're like you could live in Kansas and have like you know I don't know like a garden and you like are vlogging your garden and your boyfriend and like you adopted a cat or something and you can make it you and it doesn't require it but the energy of new york is something that's like i'm in love with totally and i i get really happy to see like other girls and you can surround yourself with other people who love that energy i would say that it's almost like because we don't have co-workers right yeah so i always think like my coworkers or people other influencers for lack of a better phrase yeah content creators whatever what do you say do you say condo it I'm like weird because I feel like I hit so many places but I also thank you but it's funny in the comedy community

they'd be like I mean like but you do know those other stuff I feel like there was this negative connotation of influencer but I try to like make it positive because I'd be like that means like you you literally influence people even if you don't want to be an influencer you're influencing people people are buying your shit your Amazon storefront is lit like you're influencing people so like I am not an influencer but I am an influencer I love and I don't think it's stupid

It's also, it's like when people say, like, the fashion industry and stuff, like, people think it's basic or chugy because it's like a feminine thing. So it's like, is it sexist to say that an influencer is like not a legit job? I like, I don't know. I'm trying. I'm trying to reframe it. Thank you. Thank you. But I think you're a content creator.

Yeah. I think it's a content creator. Like I feel like once you have multi. I say like I'm doing stand up podcast and creating content. Great. And you are. That's a mic drop. that's what you're doing and you too okay final question what advice will you give to the little devils

who are listening on how to cope with your hell when it's dark when you're in it what do you do to get through it oh my gosh okay well i think about like little me like when i was in high school and whatever like i would always look to like or a mat like not imagine but you know when you go to bed at night and you like imagine a scenario did you you've done this like have you ever done this daydreaming night dreaming all of it i'm always like when you well they say like it's a thing that you like laid better imagine a scenario with like a guy before you go to sleep. This is like a common thing that girls do. I like used to do this when I was single. Like I would like fall asleep to like my own stories. I feel like it was always for me thinking of like future me and being like I,

who care. Like it doesn't matter right now. I'm not I'm not in a good place, you know, or like I'm not happy or whatever. But like future me, she is thriving. She is successful. Like I'm putting in the work now for future me. Like your low now will get you there in a way. And I know that it's so hard to have that mindset to be like, you know. But it's like you have hope. It's hope. That's what it is. I like it's just having like a glimmer of it and like I do believe in positive thinking manifestation like that sort of stuff because yes like you will get there I so I would say it's like keep your chin up but I know that that's so like corny to say and it's like harder than that but like I look back at how sad I used to be in certain eras of my life whatever and I'm

you're sad eras yes no I literally though I look back and like this girl was depressed like I was straight up, like, not well, and I never thought, well, I did think that I would get out of it, but, like, I just kind of pressed on hoping that I would get here. And, like, it's even better than I imagine, if that makes sense. I have, like, a very, like, random basketball quote. Oh, I love it. That I swear you won't relate to that I always loved. And it, I've said on the pod before, but it's even when it's raining, the hoop is always there, which is literally what you were saying. Like, I feel like shit, but, like, it doesn't mean I can't score and, like, that it's not there. I love it. You just can't see it right now.

My yearbook quote was, I hate myself. Not always sunny, but always in a sunshine state of mind. So like, okay, Florida. It's Lily Pulitzer. Lily Pulitzer. That's literally what it was because I like, like, Lily Pulitzer. But actually, true. I like it actually, and I know it's so much harder said than done.

Like I, because I get it. Like when you're in that state, you're like, things are not going to get back, but they will. Your career is so impressive. And how long you've been in the game is so impressive. and it says something to your mindset and the fact that you've had this successful friendship that you've turned to a business.

I'm just so proud of you. You're such a badass. If anyone is listening to Burning and Hell if you listen to Giggly Squad, you guys are going to be obsessed with gals on the go. Oh my gosh. We need to do something together

with like the four of us please. We have to do some kind of collab because I feel like you've similar energy and you guys are killing it. Where can people follow you, listen to you, watch you? So the podcast is with Danielle Carolyn. It's called Gals on the.

go. New episodes every Wednesday. And then I am at Brooke Michio everywhere. YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Twitter. I do it. I try to do Twitter, too. Oh, yeah. She's tweeting. I try to be a little comedian too sometimes. We love. We love. So follow her. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you for having me. This was so fun. And we'll talk to you later. Bye.