Berner Phone - Bugsy Drake: The Queen Of Theme & Meeting Justin Bieber
Episode Date: July 22, 2021You've seen her tablescapes all over Below Deck on Bravo and now she is bringing her over the top aesthetic to hell! Hailing from South Africa, Bugsy has taken the yachting world by storm but not with...out some choppy waves. She opens up about her perfectionism, depression, why people call her Bugsy, and the sides of her people didn't see on TV. --- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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When somebody's not doing something the way I like it, I'm like, oh, you know, this is just giving me absolute hives.
Yeah, hives. All over.
Welcome to Burning Hell.
What's up, guys? Welcome to Hell. We're actually going to South African Hell today because I am with
Bugsy Drake. And you know her from Belowdak Med. She has just worked her way up the ranks to Chief
Stewardess during her travels. And she's the queen of theme. And she has a book out now called
The Art of Tabelscaping. And I am so excited to dig deep into this creative mind and world traveler.
Bugsy, welcome to hell. How are you?
Anna, thanks so much for having me. I'm so good. And you? I'm good. I'm good. I'm excited to meet you
because I am a fucking mess.
I am like, when it comes to aesthetics and details, I am, I'm not that person,
but you seem to kind of like have your aesthetic and style so together.
What inspires your creativity and, like, wanting to make everything look beautiful?
Well, let me first say that looks can be completely deceiving because it's all for sure.
No, I'm joking.
I don't know.
I just kind of, I just, I'm so inspired.
by pretty much everything that you know life has to offer get inspired by the weirdest things
I am pretty much a bit of a weirdo so people always like how do you get inspired by that I'm like
I don't know I just find things I'm one of those really annoyingly positive people I'd say that just yeah
finds inspiration in the in the toxic positivity but it is all perspective it is all perspective
you could see the world in a certain way
and you're choosing to like find beauty in it
and I fucking love that.
Did you ever expect to be on reality TV?
Oh gosh, probably not.
I was like, I don't know if I'm way too boring for the shit
but like I ended up on it and let me say that it's been a wild ride
like an absolutely wild ride.
I've learned so much about myself.
Because you're doing reality TV charters and then you're doing real charters
because that's what you do for a living.
are you getting recognized and is it like changing your perspective on the whole chartering business?
I mean, definitely. I think it's crazy. It's like people are so into below deck right now.
Yeah. I people are chartering boats in all honesty. It's gone from this like super luxury lifestyle to like people just wanting to be on a boat so they can replicate below deck.
And like what are how can I say? There's just so much.
because I think people like charted boats these days that come on.
They always like jump straight onto the crew and they're like, okay, so who's sleeping
with who, you know, is this going down?
What's going down below deck?
And it's like, you know, you've got to keep this professional front.
But at the same time, it's like there is so much going down below deck.
But also even with reality TV, it's like there's stuff going on in front of the camera.
But there's a lot of drama going on behind the camera too.
I'm telling you, and you know what the craziest part about it is, like, I've been on boats.
It has been like tenfold to what I've experienced on below deck made, like tenfold.
I believe you.
You know, you're living in these five quarters.
You're living in a bunk bed.
It's just absolutely dire.
You have no way to store your clothes.
Shit gets heat.
It's like a pressure cooker and you're also like wanting to perform.
So when you first started, I feel like you're kind of type A.
or like you're determined to show that like you can do a good job were you scared that like
people would think you're bad at your job going on the show oh for sure especially when i did
season two because like i was already working in stuiless and then you know i started below deck
and below deck season two and i came as hannah's second stew but you know i'd worked as a chief
stew and i was like oh my gosh how am i going to dial this down and tone it down enough to still be
able to do my job and like you know look good but at the same time
time, you know, take, take direction from somebody about me because I'm pretty much like, oh, 100%.
And I'm an absolute control freak. So like when somebody's not doing something the way I like it,
I'm like, oh, you know, this is just giving me absolute hives.
Yeah, hives. All over.
It's, I want to know, what's your astrological sign?
So I'm a Gemini.
Oh. Gemini is getting a lot of hate recently on social media.
But I always got along with them because I feel like you're hardworking, but then you've
a good party side.
Right.
I think that's why I always joke about like looks can be deceiving because I've got this one side
of me that's like super like perfectionist.
And then this other side of me that's like the meat mess.
And it's like I never want people to see that.
I'm like, okay, I've got to like just be, you know, this like as perfect as it can be.
But on the other side, I'm like, you know, when I come home now, my mom's like, are you
even a stewardess?
You come home.
You're like lazy.
You're always in your free.
freaking sweats like you know put together like mom this is the real me okay not like not like it wasn't
the real me on the show but like i have a completely different side yeah but as a perfectionist
it must be scary to put all of yourself out there with hidden cameras all the time and have people
kind of picking you apart how do you emotionally deal with that oh for sure i mean like i can remember
being on the show and i was like you know i'm giving this like persona well not
like persona but I'm trying to be this like perfect like chief stew like especially when I like
stepped into that role in season five and then I like walk in and pick up a big tray of like champagne
glasses and they just like fly everywhere and I'm looking over at the camera they just like yeah you see
you see and I'm like yeah okay I just got to let loose this happens you almost have to lean into it
like I'm going to make mistakes and it's going to be entertaining so everyone buckle up I think
like season five, you know, season two
was the first time I'd ever been on a reality show.
So I was like, people had warned me going into it.
They're like, be careful.
You know, they cut and edit and make things seem different.
And, you know, they can portray you in a certain way.
And because I still work in the industry,
I was like so nervous coming into this.
Yeah.
Because I was like, this is the first time I'm doing it.
And it's going to be viewed by like thousands of people
and real captains in the industry that like
afterwards, like, am I going to get another job?
off the show um but then when i came back to season five i was like you know what i'm just going
to do me be me have fun uh just show my like real side because i was at that point i was just like
okay people know me right now i'm like super crazy and you know like i love to have fun i love
i'm just like a big clown all the time so i was like i'm just going to let loose and just
yeah have a blast with it and people critique you saying like that you're too much or you're over
the top i fucking hate that shit as a woman because i don't feel like people ever say that to men but
how do you like embrace or like are you ever afraid of being too much for people growing up with
a dad who's like very much about like shock value he says like the craziest stuff at the most
inappropriate times and you know when i was younger growing up i was dad like stop this is so
embarrassing and I feel like I'm like morphing into him like the older I get I'm like all about
the shock value and like all about being over the top and like whatever you know the more shocks
people the more I'm like yeah I'm going to do it and that's amazing for TV and also just like a fun
way to live your life because yeah I love I think I like interviewing too because I love to just like
see people's reactions it makes you feel alive to like put people in like slightly uncomfortable
situations and like then you feel closer after if you survive it. Why did your parents name
you Bugsy? Because before I even saw you on the show, when you were just introduced, I was like,
I like her because her name is Bugsy and that's a fucking cool name. Or is it a common name in South
Africa? Oh no, definitely not. And the funniest thing is so like my real name is Christine, which is like
completely opposite to Bugsy. And Christine just like does not suit me at all. It's like this very like
proper sort of name and my parents call me bugsy because I don't it's so lame I wish I had a
better story to it but it's like when I was little they just used to call me little bug and it was
like bug bugs and then it stuck then my brother like started call me bug and literally like anyone
I work for like employers like whatever it's always bugs or bugsy I think it's adorable I also
I'm not great with with like hierarchy and I'm not great with I mean customer service I'm
okay just exhausting to me to like put on a smile all the time what's the hardest thing about
being in customer service i think it's putting on the smile all the time like it drives me because
i have a very expressive face but i could just oh you just like have to get like you just have to
eat shit a lot i feel like you have to put your ego aside i think you have really to be honest
i'd love to see your facial expressions i think i think that's the thing for me is they they didn't
actually on the show, they didn't capture a lot of my facial expressions. I think obviously,
you know, they took one way of like what, but there are times that I just want to, you know,
just slap a bitch. What's worse than dealing with like annoying customers is annoying customers
who are drunk because like they have no boundaries. Right. So I mean, imagine dealing with your friend
who you love when she's drunk. She's annoying as fuck. And then dealing with people who think that you owe
them like everything because they're paying for something and they're asking for ridiculous
shit i mean that's the the best part about below deck i think is watching but did these people
realize that like do they care that they might be edited bad or they might like look like assholes
on tv i mean i i don't even think so i think they themselves are people who like want to shock
and like really want to shock yes and i always i think that that that's the best part of the
industry for me and like when you talk about customer service like for me I always take it as a
challenge like I'm going to smile and be nice to your face but I'm like it's on you know what I mean
like you want to you want to ask or demand this like I'm going to show you I can do it and 10
like 10fold like completely flip it around on you and like I think that's the the best part for me
is like I yeah I just think it's a complete challenge well I think you have a great almost like
competitive attitude about it to like try to succeed and not take it as like this sucks but what makes
your show so difficult like as compared to summer house that I filmed is not only is it like an actual
job you're doing but you're dealing with the other cast members and you don't really know what
their motives are but then additionally you're dealing with the people who are you're serving
the customers and they're like have their own motives so like you're battle and then you're
dealing with your own mind that is probably battling with you as well. So that is a cluster
fuck. I think that's the biggest thing because you are literally like playing this mind field
like with everybody. And it's like you don't you don't even know until the show actually comes
out like half the shit that was going on that you might not have been involved in but you are
involved in some way. Yeah, you didn't know that you're involved in. Right. And you watch it back
can you like what like how like when i don't even know how that happened you know what i mean so it's
like i think that's the the thing it's like could be something going on around the corner or like down
the stairs and you are somehow involved in it and you're just like what the hell also i i kind of love
your energy i feel like you're you're very authentic to yourself you're not trying to fit in in some
in some other way. But how did you get your confidence and what are you actually insecure about?
So I think being obviously like a perfectionist is like a big insecurity. I went school before I did
like any of this and I've always grown up being like very much like wanting like, you know,
like being in plays at school and being like a lead role and like I always just had a passion for it.
So I think for me it's always like, you know, and I'm competitive. So I, I,
I want to be, like, front and center, and, like, I thrive off, like, some form of, like, attention.
So I need to know that, like...
Which is self-aware of you.
Right, right.
So I think, like, you know, having the...
You want to have the reassurance that what you're doing is right, you know?
And I think, like, even how, like, when I first did season two, I dealt with, like, so much hate coming in, like, with Hannah and having this big problem.
with Hannah in season two because her and I did not see eye to eye and she she'd already been on
season one and like you know gathered this fan base already so when I came in and started like
you know confronting her and being true to myself in that respect you know I went through a hell
of a lot in that season two of just being completely like scrutinized and pulled apart for no
reason other than the fact that you know her fans were protecting her and taking her side
and I think on season two I lost my grand as well
and people like said the most awful things to me
when I was like dealing with an emotional sort of you know ordeal
so I just realized how just awful humans can be
and I was like okay you know take a step
and when I take a step back from it and like look at it from like for what it is
and when I came back on season five like my whole family was like
are you sure you want to do this because you hit like a real low point
up to season two and I was like you know what like I think it will be good for me to like grow as a
person and like just to you know come back stronger and kind of take on the haters and you know
turn them into lovers hopefully if that's the case you know and so again I saw it as a challenge
but I think that is like an insecurity like I think you know I I do kind of feed off reassurance that
what I'm doing is the right thing, which is very hard for reality TV because they can put you
in so many different situations that nobody, like there's never going to be a hundred percent
of the audience that's going to agree with what you're doing. And I think that. And if you're too
like coachable and you're too like not thinking of what you want to do, you'll put yourself
in situations that are just like not authentic to you or just like you get in a place where you don't
want to be but after that first season that you because a lot of people's first seasons they they
want you to be likable and they want people to like get on with you so that then if things
happen they have opinions but like you go in you deal with a lot of hate what were the years like
when you before you came on to season five like did it hurt your like confidence in yourself or
your ego or how did you deal with that emotionally i mean i think when it was all happening
and like up until a year after the show,
I was dealing with like a lot of like inner turmoil about it
because I was thinking like, you know, am I this person?
They're like calling me out about my looks, you know,
like about my character, about my family.
And I was just like, geez, this is hectic.
You know, this is before I completely understood the mind of a troll.
And, you know, I was like, it was very hard to deal with,
I would say for the first year.
And then like after that, I kind of pulled myself,
away from the whole below deck
Bravo sort of thing because I wasn't on
the show anymore and I was just like you know what I'm not
going to interact I'm just going to do my own
thing I'm not going to
you know because a lot of people come off
shows and they just
continue like I know a lot of previous
cast on Below Deck who haven't come back
for the next seasons whatever they still
stay very much involved in what's
happening with the with the seasons
that they're not in you know
commenting on Twitter and like
on Instagram and posting things
and I just kind of remove myself from it all.
And now I'm going to live my best life.
And so I kind of completely,
that's why when they asked me to come back for season five,
it kind of hit me out of the blue because I came in like one charter in.
And it was literally,
they called me like the day of and I flew out the next day.
So it was like I didn't have a lot of time to think about it.
I was just like, you know what?
Like this is a chance for like, you know, what do you call it?
Like redemption, redemption, exactly.
And so I was like, yeah, I'm going to do it.
And let's see what happens.
It's funny because I watched season five, but I hadn't watched season two.
So I just kind of was like, oh, she has some history and like, let's see how this goes.
You explained that you understood the mind of a troll.
Can you explain what that means?
Well, I mean, like, in terms of, I can't really understand the mind.
But I understand what a troll is, you know, and I think these people who have like zero,
followers and they create these accounts that like they just want to sit there and attack you and
pull you apart and you know everyone always said to me look they're just typing on a keyboard from like
a basement somewhere like you know don't worry about it and in their mom's basement
yeah mom or dad's basement exactly and i just i kind of in life i tries to be kind and like
i've learned that a lot over the years and especially after below deck season two because i was like
you know what these people are obviously so torn apart
themselves and you know that's saying hurt people hurt people that's exactly what i what i what i
are you're troll to be and they are super loud which can be hard and especially just living your
own private life to then being put in the public and immediately you're getting that backlash you're
like oh is this me and i just didn't know who i was like and and they will hit on everything
and you're just like oh my god have i just been i should be worried about these things but then you
realize that it's all this like yeah inner turmoil on their end and I do think yeah you do almost
embrace kindness more because you realize how much hate there is and how like who knows you just
smiling at a stranger could help them not attack a celebrity on Twitter later that day yeah exactly
I think I think that's the thing as well is just that you know these people these people come out
and they attack every single thing about you and I think like just what you said is like oh my gosh
do I really look like this am I really acting that way do I really sound
like that. And, you know, I think it's all very surface level. So when you kind of, and you can,
you can completely get wrapped up in it like I did. And I think, you know, I had a completely
different experience from season two versus season five. You know, there was a lot of, there was a lot
of controversy and a lot of focus on season five on the mental health issues, which I, like,
my association got dragged into. And I think that was very hard for me because I kind of wanted to speak
up so much about it but you know every time i did people would just bash me back saying like
you know um they would kind of try and say that i was trying to justify myself which i wasn't
all of a sudden you know this bubble surrounds you that you can't get out of and it's not it's not true
to what it is it's just this mob mentality of people jumping on the bandwagon and it's yeah it's
scary it's scary because people can completely throw like throw you it wasn't just like about
mental health it's with the combination of people's like reality TV bullshit so it's like it was like
which side do you want like it wasn't actually really really about mental health there was a lot of like
other negativity going in but speaking of do you deal with anxiety I mean I would say I deal more with
with depression and anxiety I would say like it's more of um you know it's one of these things that like
I've kind of grown up with. I'm 31 now. I turn 31 this year. And, you know, even living
this nomadic lifestyle, I'm kind of, I kept putting it off when I hit 30 because I turned 30 during
COVID. And I was like anticipating this massive queen of theme dash and, you know, like having
so much fun. And so my birthday kind of fell end of May, which was just before I came back on
below deck meet, which I was so excited about. And there's all these exciting things happening. And
then it's like in the middle of COVID and we were on lockdown in our yacht in Florida and I think at
the time I was the only female squarely some board and I had five guys on the boat so I was literally
looking after these five guys like in the middle of like COVID and you know it was my birthday
and then I'm turning 30 and I'm like all by myself and you know guys don't really celebrate birthdays
like girls do that might be a bit of a generalization in the world they don't really
care. So I was like, what am I going to do? This is so depressing. I'm literally turning 30 and we're not
even having a celebration. And then on top of that, it's like, you know, I'm 30. I'm like in yachting
still. I thought I was only going to be here for like four years or five years and I've now been doing
it for nine years. And I'm like, yeah, so turn 31 just like a couple months ago and I'm like,
what am I doing with my life? And I think that's such a massive trigger for me, like to go to these
really low points and being such a person like I not a lot of people know that about me and you know
I think that's something I try to keep very private because I never want to seem like I'm you know
it's like a pity party or anything because some people can attack you for that too and I also do
think sometimes the happiest smiley as people can be people who are the saddest sometimes
because you like know how sad it is to be sad.
That was, that was, you know what I'm trying to say.
So like you want to just spread joy as much as you can
because you're like being sad sucks.
But yeah, and then you don't want people to know like the extent of how not happy you are.
Yeah, I think, I think that's also like a massive deflection on my part.
We have to get to this book because it's beautiful.
It's, it's different.
Like it's not the stereotypical Bravo Leopardy book that,
comes out. Why do you love table scape so much? I think, again, it's like one of these things.
It's like such an escape for me and it's like so much fun to do. And I think that's another
part of me that comes out in it is like I'm still like a big kid. I always joke about having like
Peter Pan syndrome. Like I just never want to grow up. And I feel like table scaping for me is like
one of those things. Like people look at me like, are you serious? You're setting tables for fun.
like how old are you and I'm like you know let me be this is my this is the joy in my life and I think
that's why I love I love to create magic and I'm so all about like these like imaginative worlds
and these crazy worlds that like you know these tables can transport you to and like I also
just being that again like that really over the top annoyingly positive person I think like every
meal should be celebrated and that's what I love to bring out in my tables I love that so much
because a therapist did tell me once that like growing up kids being able to play is like an
integral thing to having happiness as an adult is like being able to go back to that place
in your head of just like innocent play where you're not like worried about your taxes or like
paying the bills and I think it's it's I could see it being really therapeutic to just
it's like painting but also the people get to like experience what you create it I I fucking
love it where can people buy the book?
on Amazon? So on Amazon, pretty much like any places you can buy a book, Target, Barnes & Noble,
Amazon, it's all over. The art of tablescaping. Right before we play our final game, I just need to know,
I heard you met Justin Bieber. What happened? So I met him in St. Barts. Like, I was picking up
one of my boss's assistants from the airport. And I was like, he said, oh my gosh, Justin Bieber just got
off my flight. And there's really tiny flights, right? So I was like, well, he couldn't have gone too far.
And I'm like such a stalker for celebrities.
I'm like, let's go find him.
Guys, like, you're so embarrassing.
And I'm like, I don't care.
When will we ever see Jessumiga in our lives again?
And anyway, he was, like, standing in the car park with this, like, whole entourage of, like,
these massive bodyguards.
And I was, like, I was in this massive, like, black Cadillac, like, this huge one with
the tinted windows.
And I was, like, getting so excited.
Like, I'm just to roll up to him.
And, like, he's so going to, like, want to come up and say hi.
anyway like drove up to him
the window down was literally like a meter away from him
and like my my boss's assistant
had a cap on like a baseball cap and he's like literally on the floor
like hiding and was like Justin what's up
and he gave me the peace sign and was like yo
and I was such an anti-climate but I was sick I like got to
but you know what that's not a negative response
it's not a negative response and I'm proud of you
because sometimes you just have to do stuff for the story
you know my gosh for sure I probably see if there's ever like now you could talk about on podcast
yeah exactly I'm not one of those angles that's just going to like run up and scream and like want
to have a photo but like if there's somebody there that I need to me I'm like walking straight up to
them it it's how you do it and if you're casual just like I love your work or like big fan whatever
they're not going to mind it's when you like make a huge scene and yell or like sit down at
their dinner table that there's a problem and then you get removed physically um bugsy you're doing
amazing in hell, it's time to play
the Seven Deadly Sins.
Seven Deadly Sins.
What are you
greedy about?
Chocolate. Oh, what kinds?
I love Cadbury,
like milk chocolate, and I'm also
a town of Lund. I know it's cliched,
but I love Lund.
We respect that.
Who are you envious of?
There's a lot of people
out there. I got to say my mom actually because she is like so fit and so young and I'm like oh my gosh
I need to be you and I'm your age. Well hopefully you will with genetics. That's wait that's so
cute. So is your mom like someone in your life that you look up to and has and you're close with?
Oh definitely. She's like my best friend. I always like I always call like I always call myself her clone
which is kind of weird. But like you know I just like I got my passion for like tables and like all
all my style and stuff from her and she's the bomb.com.
I feel the same way about my mom because I'm turning 32 and I still call her about like every
minor inconvenience, but it's like what brings me joy.
So I'm not going to grow up and I love you mom.
I love it.
Side note, this book, this book came out and he said you didn't think you'd be in yachting
for too long.
What is, what are you manifesting for your future right now?
I sound like I'm in a job interview, but I'm just curious.
No, that's good.
I've got like so many ideas, but I'd love to have like either like a really cool out there
events company where I just like pitch up at your house and set the most awesome theme
or I'd love to do like a really cool travel show around the world like going into the way
that people set their tables around the world.
Ooh, that's great.
I like them both or a show about doing events around the world as well.
Yeah, I'm manifesting it with you.
hell yeah and yeah you'll still get like customers being assholes and you get a little drama
of course right oh i'm excited to ask you this when was the last time you experienced extreme
wrath like anger probably about like three days ago what happened
brother was home and like my brother and i have this like complete love hate relationship we
we're also like really close but um he was just like we had to get to this like dinner and he was
taking so long that we ended up being like half an hour late and I was just like kicking and
screaming like a banshee you have no idea I was like complete like devil woman I get like that
when I your brother's the perfect person to freak out on because it's like it's your brother
handle it like one of these guys that we still have like those child fights you know when you
like slap each other and it like gets really violent you poke each other when was the last time
you were a sloth so like a lazy a lazy person all day okay probably today i literally just put on
some makeup for the podcast i'm like that's what i're saying i'm like a sloth at home like that's why i say
my mom is like who are you you're a gemini yes exactly and so well like and so is my mom but she doesn't
seem to have the sloth side that i have like my sister even got me like a little sloth thing to add to my
phone because like I you know my mom's like do you even are you even a stewardess like what do you do
you are not like taking like 15 days to unpack my bag since I got home and it's just been like lying on
my floor with like clothes same and everyone's just like okay are you you could turn it's called balance
this is a tough one when was the last time you let your pride or your ego get in the way of something
whether it's a job or a relationship I think
it could have been on a charter the last time. It's just like, you know, I had this like chef that
I worked with and him and I did not see it. I, so ever, because I was like,
your back of house, but you're presenting the food. And like, I know you've got a tough job,
but so do I. And, like, it was just one of these, like, really heated arguments that
happened. But it's good that you stand up for yourself and you don't just, like, let a chef just
kind of run the show if you disagree because you have a show to run as well right right i think that's
like the hardest thing for sheep's when they work with me because i am very like confrontational and
outspoken so like you can get people in my position that are just like okay cool i'm like no way not
happening today buddy and like that's how it goes you know and that's what's that's what's called
boundaries when was the last time you lusted over someone so do you have like a
celebrity crush or someone on a charter.
Okay, so I haven't had like enough people to lust over on the charters that I've had
recently at all.
I also read that you are like against boatmances.
So like you don't like hooking up on charters.
But that takes a lot of self-control, I feel like, because you're probably alone.
You're horny.
You're stressed.
And like work crushes are real.
Like where there's a decent looking guy, but he's the hottest one.
You could just start like fantasizing about him.
next you know you're like in love with this guy you would never even look at off a boat yeah for sure
100% I think I think I've done that like also like really older like like silver fox chart I guess
that I've come on and I'm like oh yeah he's like 40 years your senior up like just stop this is not
you and I'm like but is it me I don't know this like he's really hot and like I don't know
that's and you know like in the bubble so you don't see land for days or you're not like in a
social environment for days.
So it's kind of like whatever you can get.
I know.
Well, we love Silver Foxes on this pod.
Bugsy, to wrap this up, I have one final question.
What advice would you give on how to cope with your hell when you're going through it?
What I do is like I obviously, I get up and I get changed.
Like have a shower get dressed.
That's what I do.
And then I put on some like real kick-ass music.
I like stand in front.
of the mirror and I just give it my all with great dance moves. That's what I do. And I end up
making me laugh because I'm being such an idiot and I'm like, okay, you're a weirdo. If somebody
walks in this room right now, they're going to be like, what the hell? Um, also something that's
really got to me recently that my family is like, you need to stop this. But I've become so obsessed
with TikTok and it's taking it on my life because like I'm properly on TikTok. I just make
these videos, save them, then delete them. And I just like, it was like so hilarious. It was like so
And people are like, okay, you need to stop that now because it's becoming your life.
Like, what are you doing?
But I'm like obsessed.
And I never knew TikTok could be so addictive.
But I think that's like, you need to start posting.
People think like this girl's crazy because, yeah.
Well, I think that's what's great about you because you kind of own all your shit.
And I like your toxic positivity, especially knowing that you go through all your own shit and you still put a smile on your face, which is what makes you good at chartering, I think.
But Bugsy, where can people follow you?
Where can they buy your stuff?
Where can they, in the future, watch your TikToks?
Right.
So I'm on everything, Bugsy Drake, super simple.
I've kept it real simple.
I'm on Instagram, Twitter, and soon to be TikTok.
Yeah, very, very simple, Bugsy Drake.
And then the name of your book is the art of tablecaping by the Queen of Theme.
I'm, and it just wrote, it said, from rustic outdoor gatherings to glit,
glam as all get out
sores.
Figure out how to get your own party started
with inspiration from Bugsy.
I'm obsessed.
I think it's time to have a hot girl summer,
a hot table scape summer.
Bugsy, thank you so much for coming to hell.
Thank you so much for having me.
It's been so fire.
Yeah, fire.
And we'll talk to you guys later.
Bye.