Berner Phone - Chris Olsen: Red Carpets & Rehab

Episode Date: February 16, 2023

My arch nemesis is in hell today and he just launched a coffee company called Flight Fuel! He opens up about his public break ups, family interventions, rehab, alcohol addiction, and some other fun lighter stuff. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Burning Hell Hello Hello, we have an interesting episode today. I am here with some would say my arch nemeses. Christopher Olson. You got the name right, at least.

Yeah. So I think we're done here. So that's it. Great. People are like, Hannah, why would you have Chris on the pod? I've been asking myself that all week. No, so many people ask me how much I got paid to be here today. You know, I've been doing well.

A lot. We just, the number kept going up because I kept saying no. And it's crazy because when I first met you was on my express campaign. Right. Right. It was yours that I was starring in. Yeah, starring is a strong word because the team was like, Can this strange looking man kind of breathe on your neck behind you during the campaign?

And I was like, whatever makes him happy, because I support, I do charity work a lot. Right, right. You're a philanthropist. Yeah. And they asked me to actually, like, bring you into relevance for the first time in your life. And I thought, I could try. But it's really tough when, you know, looks are not your strong suit. It was funny because when you first walked in, you were like a little shy.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't, but not, like, I was not weird shy. I just, Paige and I knew each other. Yeah. And then our first interaction was hatred. Hatred. Just like pure hatred. One of the first lines I said to you was like, you'll never work in this town again.

Yes. Do you remember that? Yes. And I remember thinking, like, I will not die until I ruin him. Right. Right. And you still haven't. So that's why she's living here today.

I'm about the long haul, you know. Uh-huh. Revenge is a dish serve cold. kind of like your career and I don't know it's been it's been crazy to meet you yeah but it is funny I've never had a relationship where I've never been nice to the person ever and we've continued talking so consistently yeah yeah it is it does seem like a little bit of an obsession on your point what have you done since the last time I've seen you because I haven't seen you anywhere I mean the express campaign has just been so busy for me that one campaign yeah they keep

bringing it up again you know they were in times Square. It's crazy because the editor made a little mistake where... Forgot to put you on the billboard. It was so funny because I was like, you're on the billboard. And I went to watch it and I was like, oh, look, that's crazy because I think I'm there for a millisecond. And Paige is on it, right? Page has like a full like going in the car, leaving the car, looking at the screen, relaxing. They had me do a scene where I like was being funny where I like pulled the suitcases out and the

suitcases fell and I was all silly. So honestly, the creative direction at the end must have just gone in a different. different way, which honestly, I can be too much for people, but that's what they say when you're, you know, pushing the limits of art. Right, right. Well, I can't wait to see you succeed in, you know, however long that takes. Yeah. But you know what I appreciate about you? You keep trying. Failure after failure. Thank you. And they've all been failures. You keep trying. Yes. I will not sleep until your TikTok gets taken down because the world has had enough. You've been reporting it.

So that's been you. So that's been you. I have alarm set. Like 3 a.m. You're like, is that your birth control? And I'm like, yeah, totally. Just reports it like every hour on the hour.

I have been getting messages, though. We know there's been some confusion of if Megan Trainor has kidnapped you or not. If she has, are you being fed? I mean, we can tell you've been being more than fed. Right. Have you been able to talk to your family? Do you feel healthy? Are you okay?

Yeah. You can blink if... She's outside. Oh, my God. Wait. No, I'm scared. You just put yourself. I'm a huge security.

I'm working at this. I'm really scared for you now. Yeah, no. I am, that was a little ASMR moment. No, I'm being fed so well. And she's eating and we ate. No, I, I, yeah, she's, she has kidnapped me. But it's consensual.

Okay. And what's that, what's that syndrome, um, where you fall in love with your captor? Yeah. That's what I have right now. Like beauty and the beast. Yeah. No, I'm so in love with her. But you're the beast.

Mm-hmm. Right. Right. Right. Right. With all my body hair, which I'm, I've started some laser hair removal. So fun. Is fun the word?

Yeah. I do have to say as an Italian girl, I use more lasers than a Star Wars trilogy. And it's so much better than waxing, sugaring, anything else I've gotten. Yeah. You need to laser. You need. So, and do people know that that's why we're talking today? So we're talking to laser.

Swipe up for 20% off. Laser. Okay. No, but so have you gone through your entire process of like, have you, I mean, I assume you went to head to toe. wig so that was our first direction you said something you go I love your wig and I was like I hate this man but I am going to love hating him for the rest of my life right right I just I don't know if it's a new yorker me but when I spit something so treacherous and horrible to someone and they spit it back

even more painful you get turned on I'm in love I'm wet soaking soaking soaking yeah yeah yeah Like, we, like, kind of were dating. No, we dated. Your husband knows that, though, right? Oh, my God, yeah, he knows. I think he's jealous, though, because he could... Chemistry is chemistry. It is.

Would you ever have sex with me? So, no. But here's why, right? I just feel like if I ever, like, I could... I would have sex with a woman at some point. but we aren't allowed to talk. You can't say a word to me beforehand, a word during or after. I'm chatty.

Right. I can imagine that during, right? We would just be having a whole conversation. I go, is it in? That's crazy. That's, okay. Right, because you have a gaping vagina. So I just, I feel like once I've like gotten to know a girl or like, like, when I,

when we literally speak, I'm just like, I can't, like, I can't touch you now. When you're like, once I get to know you, I just cannot be more disgusted by you. No, I'm just like, you're, you're too, like, we're too close. Like, I need it to, like. I'm pretty mask, though. Yeah. I feel like, are hung.

I'm a, someone called me a verse otter before. Because you're, you're so hairy. Yeah. Right. Well, yeah, because I haven't finished my lasers. I keep giving it up. Right. So how, how, how, so you do sessions and then you just.

Well, as you know, I'm just like very busy in my career. Yeah, right. So I will, I did like two months. Well, because you had that express thing and then the like afterward effects, as you know, that's like exhausting. Right. I got an email about it. It was crazy. And so I have to like restart it, but I do have to warn you.

I got my butthole lasered, which is like actually the most fun part. I loved it. But you know the space between your butt hole and your balls? Taint. The taint or the periote. She hit that spot for me my the generational trauma like just like can't like I was bleeding like there's a spot There's a spot of like nerves that she hit well I know that yeah I thought I thought I was done for right right and I like a laser shot back out Literally like like a whole opened up just like fully there was like a bright white light shooting out of your what do you call it time time

travel. Right. Right. Yeah. It was like men in black. I was like, where am I? What's happening? My God. But I, the whole time was bragging about my pain tolerance. So I had to bite my lip. Right, because you were like, this is going to be. I don't, I don't complain. And I was like, that's mental. Like, you're fine. It was just whatever. Then I went to the bathroom and I wiped. It was bloody. No. And so you haven't done it since. But I'm, I'm going to. I just have to find the way to get the balls to be like, watch out for my taint. So you only did one session. I did too. I also did a group on like five years ago that was like, I think she paid me. And that was pretty sketchy. Right. Yeah. I don't, she used like a pencil. I would really go for laser hair removal with my groupon. It was trendy five years ago. You were a kid. Right. Wasn't born actually. Yeah, that actually reminds me. It's like, have you ever gotten a massage that's way too hard, but you have too much pride to say anything? Do you ever get manicures when it's just not it? Yeah. I mean, not too often. But like when is the way, you're talking about when it's not it, when they're literally like. The color. The color. Oh, so no, no, no, no. I know that the Gen Z boys love painting their nails. Why haven't you ventured into that? I just haven't. I feel like I would be chipping it off every two seconds. Like I. Because you're so busy. I'm woodworking. I'm so busy. I'm so stressed. I'm so successful. Yeah. Right. That just like it. You're flying so much. You would just fly off.

I don't know if you can really like bring so much nail polish onto the planes every time. Yeah, a private jet can only fit so many. No, it can really only fit so much and it's already full of my other accomplishments. Yeah. So I, no, I've never, I haven't really painted my nails. But yeah, a lot of Gen Z boys are really into it. It's become such a thing. Fascinating.

Are you talking about when they paint it wrong or when you just choose the wrong color? It's a little bit of both. Right. I have like, I get in my head and I like panic. order like you know when you're at a restaurant and you just pick the worst possible thing to eat because you panicked yeah yeah wait was it you did you get a really bad manicure recently the poop one yeah yeah wasn't it like it was ombre but it wasn't it i tried to do like a macchiato moment right where it was like brown and then like foam on the top and you thought this was going

to be like a groundbreaking i thought it was going to blow up the internet it just looked like i blew at my butthole and um which you do often i do i do honey i do i do yeah right i do so i like i couldn't i don't she this bitch i don't know what happened i actually don't want to talk about and it's rude that you brought it up right you don't want to talk about speaking macchiados yep you've become known for wait what are you known for right right right no it's okay it's okay you're old and your memory is slow it's crazy your team was trying to they were trying to convince me that you did so oh yeah right sure so coffee so coffee you bring coffee to people i bring coffee to people yeah usually famous people so that's why it's never been to you um

but i bring it to people across the world sometimes um i kind of like i it became a bit that i was doing back in the day i would like bring coffee to my dad yeah or it'd be like i'm getting coffee and then i would show up across the country or like in italy and then i was like it slowly somehow developed into bringing it to famous people. I think I brought it to Megan Traynor. She was like the first famous person. And then from there it became a little bit of a bit to like bring it to other

famous people. I do have to say not to compliment you, but you've done a good job of getting famous for some reason and then staying like to yourself but like elevating in a way that's like comfortable for your viewers. I'm really rock hard right now.

I blocked out. Holy shit. Did you run that back five times so I can continuously get horny? People like someone and they get famous and then they like actually become shitty people. 100%. And then they're like, they're like, oh, they're not around anymore. But I feel like sometimes people when they get famous, they hate who they are. So then they just become a famous person and they do it.

You're in L.A. You know what that's like. I am in L.A. I think a lot of people though, like they have the goal that they're just like, I want to be famous and I'm going to like be quirk. and relatable until I get there. But on the inside, they're the kind of person who's like, I don't want to be anything like any of you, actually. But I'm going to like share until I get to this level.

And then it's like, okay, bye, like, time to be me. And I'm, that wasn't my goal. And people are smart. They can smell that inauthenticity. Right, right. And my goal was never like, I'm going to just work until I get to this level. And then none of you are going to touch me. You're like, my goal is to be on Hannah's podcast.

Hannah's podcast. And now I'm here. And you will never. see me again after this like I'm going to hide away but I think I was I was always just like I'm just gonna like hopefully people like like I am chaos and I frequently think I like don't I just always am like I don't deserve to be in any of these spots so I'm not like now that I'm here like you see me I'm just like what am I doing in any of these places it is weird like when I'll I see some people at these like big golden globes events or whatever and you're like oh like good

for them below key you're kind of like so annoying right. But then I see you on it and I'm like, vomit. No, I'm just kidding. I'm like, I feel like it could be anyone. Well, because it should. Like I, like the years like from zero, years zero to 19 for me, like I was the big, I was like a trash bag on the floor in New York.

Like I was being kicked around in the wind. I was horrible. Like life was crazy. And so just to think that like that was me and now this is like the same version of me. Then yeah, I'm like, If I could have done it from like the depths of the earth, like, please, everyone. That's what I want people to feel like also watching my content is that like you're, you are coming with me to these things.

Like, come watch. Yeah. Yeah. Like when you're there, you really don't give off this like, I knew I was better than you guys. And finally the industry found me. You really are just like, I'm Chris and you're going to experience this through the same lens. You've always experienced it. Like when I did the glam bot for the first time, you know the glam bot?

I mean, they've been asking me nonstop, and I, right, they're like, and you're just like, I can't, I can't with Express. Yeah, like, Express, like, I'm busy. Yeah, they had a technical difficulty. Right, right. No, but, like, I was just so unbelievably shook that I was even doing that. And what's funny is when all the stars, like, come up to the carpet, like, they just go immediately their publicists, like, ushers them into the glam bot. First time I did it, which was at the Oscars, I had to wait in line for, like, a very long time. Because people cut.

Right. like if you're a famous person you just go you're not like i'm gonna wait in line like i waited in line the guy cole who's amazing but no idea who i was you get one take when you're a start you get to like check it out you get to go look at the thing and be like i'm doing it again as a regular little human you get one take so i was like i guess i'll just like i guess i'll just like tuck my non-existent hair behind my ear you do mara carrie and just have it was like la la la la that's what i'm gonna do next time for sure. But I was like, okay, I guess I'm going to do this. And then I was like this really sick moment because I was like, I just waited in line and I got to do this and like

everyone look. And then the second time I did it, he remembered me. There was actually no line that time. But he was just like, come on. Like, what are you going to do this time? And I was like, oh, now I feel like a little more comfortable in this spot while still not being like, okay, glam bot. Yeah. I'm ready. Like it's, I don't feel like if I ever, I think also like you and my friends they remind they humble me often so if i'm ever like even giving a little twinge of being like yeah i uh-huh yeah they're like and you like shit yourself this morning like you're disgusting what the fuck are you talking about and i'm like right when i asked my friend like before a pot i was like can you give me a chai latte she hell broke with kicked me in the shin as she should

and it is important to people around you thank you for recognizing that a lot of your career has been because of me right and how I treat you yeah no 100% it's nice for you to just recognize the people who have held you up yeah in the 20 minutes that I've known you yeah I really feel changed I mean it's quality not quantity right what people don't know is that like you're actually cool you know you're fun oh my god wait I don't want to cry blacked out no idea what I just said there no but like you're fun I do have to say that I know you talk about your sobriety And it makes me respect you more. This is vodka, by the way.

This interview made me relax. I'm literally fucked up having to talk to you right now. But like for you to be so young and go through something that you had to choose yourself, no one can make you sober. Yeah, no. It's pretty fucking mature. It's pretty insane. Like I've never had a legal drink in the country. Like I got sober when I was 19.

so the only time I was ever drinking was like chaos and I don't think I've ever because even when I went to London I was 17 and I was getting drunk there all the time so no matter where I've been I did a summer program for theater and I I drank every night that I was there but that's just like their lifestyle that is their lifestyle but not to the level I guess I was like for Americans as alcoholics for them it's just the morning yeah it's like right it's like this is my morning egg and shot of gin um yeah so no i i've never i've never like drunk normally like i was never one of those people who was like yeah i just like go to the bar and like order one too many cocktails like i was

always like hammering like a fifth of vodka in my dorm room and then like going to a pregame or like going to someone's like shitty apartment party what kind of drunk were you i i went i evolved so starting out i was probably like i was kind of fun and like oh he's crazy and then i'd be came a crying drunk and I would cry every single time every single time I got drunk yeah no I came out at the end of eighth grade I was I thought you like came out of the home I came out immediately though my family did always did say that like we always knew and I was like sure my mom did find a uh one time I was flying home from boarding school and we had to ship one of my suitcases home because I think we I think was for summer so I had to pack up everything to ship one of the suitcases home and I put my douche in one of the

suitcases and she brought it to FedEx and I think they were like okay do we need to insure it and she was like I don't know they were like just check out what's in there and then we'll see if we need to add insurance and I didn't try to hide that like she zipped it open and it was like perched on the top is it that known that the gays are douching their buttholes yeah I think almost I think everyone is I think most well okay you know what let me reel that in if you're not i'm not here to shame you um i am i am often um i am always usually if i'm going to bottom which is always um so so i think it's i think it's pretty known but anyway she opened that she sees it if i might be crazy and bottom one night which is always

um if she saw it and then we went home and she was driving me somewhere and it was a big move of my mom to always bring things up in the car because there's no escape. You're locked. No escape. Yeah. Like my parents would do that on road trips too with me and my sister. It was hell. Anyway, she brings it up. She's like, so I had to open your suitcase

and I just, I just don't want you to be a bottom. No, she did not. That is the hundred percent hand to the Bible. She goes, Christopher, it's okay. like I you know I will love you no matter what but being a bottom is very dangerous I'm really nervous about the things you because she she was a little uneducated she's learned more now to her credit she thought like if you were bottom that's the only way you're going to catch anything yeah as like a gay so she was like you can top all you want but please don't I was like mom I was like no you can actually get anything anytime mom like I but that's so cute of her to be like okay this is his lifestyle how can I still worry about him in the best possible way like a mom and then she she was also like you know there are men out there who when they get older they have to wear diapers their but hole how does she know I know my thought is like she probably like saw it and did some Googling she googling she googled

she was like webmd was like your son is going to die your son is going his his anal cavity will prolapse out of his body he is getting fisted and that's why he has a douche and I was literally like I was like, mom, I actually, I can't talk. I cannot speak with you about this right now. I can't, I can't speak with you about this. I don't know how we, I don't know how we got here. But yes, my, my, my, my mom found the douche. And then that's what that, that was like one of our main.

Oh, coming out. Yeah. So I came out really early. And, um, but then you were drinking and crying. Then I was drinking and crying. And, uh, it just became, it was like, my family went on vacation, uh, summer before my sophomore year of college. And I think that kind of solidified.

My mom had been sober for about four years at that point. Oh, good for her. So, yeah, it runs in the family. Like, on my dad's side, my aunt and uncle, both of his siblings were alcoholics. My grandma, his dad, like, all on that side. And then my mom on my side. So, like, it was about, I'm shocked that my sister isn't an alcoholic. So were you aware of it growing up that alcoholism could be something you struggle with?

Not, like, really growing up because my mom didn't really. Because I was blacked out. No, no, no. My mom, like, she drank a glass of wine every night, but I don't think it was really an issue until her dad died when I was like 12 or 13. Like, I was young for sure because, oh, no, it's got to be before that. 12 or 13 was when she got sober. So when I was pretty young, remember my mom's dad died and I think it just really ramped up from there. But then she maintains that she kind of had had a drinking problem throughout like most of my life.

and so uh and it looks differently in different people like she wasn't like what i was doing like she wasn't getting blacked out she was just drinking like she wasn't fucking guys in london she wasn't she was being fisted by guys in london unfortunately not that i know of not that i know of i'm not gonna project i'm not gonna rule it out maria anyway she was no but she was like just having like a lot of wine every night like i think and like was going crazy with her girlfriends on the weekends and stuff like that. You make hilarious videos with her, by the way. That's my grandma. My mom has been in one or two videos, but I know, like, when I come home to an Asian American household, that's my Lola. That's my mom's mom's mom. Okay. Yeah. And you know what? That makes sense because Asians look amazing for their age.

Look amazing. Your grandma could be 20. Right. Right. She's, she's 81 now. I mean, her skincare routine must be fantastic. She's not a she's not a drinker I don't think she's like ever had a sip in her life Not to make this about me You want to though I've been kind of waiting the last 10 minutes Yeah I can't tell I can tell But my husband

Heard of him Do you have one? That's crazy So my husband You'll find one eventually Just be yourself He's been sober since he's 19 Oh my God And he's 47 now

He's geriatric But is he? Actually, 47. He's 47. How old are you again? 23. No, I'm 31. Oh, my gosh.

Yeah. Okay, wow. I know I look so young. Yeah, right. He was kind of like you where he was in college overseas in Ireland, just drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking. Is he Irish? He's Irish, but like from New York. Oh, okay.

But he had some family there who was in boarding school, drunk, drunk, drunk, drunk, drunk. And he realized, like, it's in his family. I can't do this. Right. And at 19, it was so mature of him. Never had a drink since. And right after that, his comedy career immediately started to grow. And then he, like, became one of the biggest comics in Ireland.

And then I captured him and connected and forced him to be in America with me. That's the only way anyone would kind of stay. Yeah, it's a real, like, I had to do a couple tricks, some illegal things. Right. And there's probably been a little correlation between your career and sobriety. 100%. None of this would be happening if I wasn't sober. but also what's wild about him

he just made that decision on his own he did that is that's powerful so I had an intervention like whole like I woke up hungover one day I wanted the drama I wanted the drama I was living for it I can't believe

I can't believe no one filmed I can't believe no I was like get your angles up right now but no I woke up on like a Wednesday and my roommate was like your dad's here and I was like what and then I stumbled into the kitchen dad mom aunt, uncle. Where was this?

Two friends in college, in my college apartment. Because I was a sophomore, so you live in the dorms freshman year. But I feel like most people in college are blocking out so much. Like I went to Wisconsin and like to just deal with the cold. You had to have a liquid layer. Yeah, but like I think it was just like after that summer where I went on vacation with my family and I was drunk like every night. I think they were just like, this is like not something that's just about college.

Like this isn't like, like I was getting drunk like no one else was drinking. I was just like, anyway, like time to. go wild like i was i was just i couldn't i could not go to sleep sober at certain points like i just needed something and i think they because my mom had just been through it they were like we recognize this so easily so annoying why can't we be hilarious and not mentally ill i don't there's like the correlation is way too strong if you're if you're completely mentally sound there is no chance that you're funny there's no personality there's no personality because i'm talking to my therapist and not to make it about me and she's like i'm like

I might have ADHD, I might have all these things, and she's talking about you could go on something. And I'm like, no, no, no, but I need to be like super chaotic on stage. Right. And silly and goofy and free and loose. Yeah. And it's like you kind of have to take your mind with it. I mean, once you got sober and you had to deal with the reality, your emotions, your brain, what were you dealing with?

The first year after getting sober, I feel like I was on autopilot. Nothing exciting happened in my life. I was just like, okay, I'm just going to, I got really fit. I was like, I'm going to go to the gym, go to class, and go to sleep. I was like, I'm not doing anything. I, like, didn't really hang out with my friends outside of class, like, because I was like, hard. You can't hang out with the same people when you're not drinking.

Right. And what am I going to do? Like, everyone was just going to, like, go to a party. I'm like, I guess I'll just, I'm just going to, like, sit at home. I had, like, my few friends who would, like, come watch something with me. But I was really, like, I wasn't doing it. I was working at the Equinox Kids Club. I was taking care of children.

You were making them do burpees? Yeah. Get down, Stephanie. Get Charlotte. Boy, it's not we practiced. I, like, I lied and said I was good with kids because I wanted a job at Equinox. And so I was like, I love, I love working with kids. I'm so, I've done it so many times.

And then I was just like, okay. And they would like drop their kids off. And I was like, here's an iPad. I can say that. Like, I will say that with confidence now. Like, I'm so sorry. I did like end up getting close to some of the kids. Like this little girl's sharp.

Charlotte shit on the floor once. And ever since then, we were pretty bonded because she was also learning. Trauma bond with Charlotte. Trauma bond. Like the entire little kids club area smelled. Did you have favorites, though? Of course. Like you would talk show with Charlotte about like.

Charlotte was a fave. Yeah. This girl, Ryan was a fave. Oh, the name. She was really young. Like, I know. She couldn't speak. But I was like, I was like, you could tell her energy was good.

I fuck with you. Like Ryan was, there was, oh, there was a girl. Oh, what was her name? I can't remember her. her name, but she was six. She told me to kill myself. I did not love her. Every time she was like, if I was in your, she was like, if I were you, I would kill myself. I was like, how do you know what you're talking about? You are six. Philippa. That was her name. And honestly, we're enemies. Like, I feel like she grew up to be you. She was, she was really tough to do. She was like that

kindergarten first grade age, which is like just a, you know that's a tough age. They know like a little too much. Yeah, like they know, they know how to like make another person upset. They will find your deepest insecurity. And they'll just say it to you. She was like, she was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Someone skipped leg day. Yeah. No, I think I remember she was like, do you have a girlfriend? And I was like, no, like I date boy. She was like, that's disgusting. I was like, Fibba. And then I was like, is this a teaching moment? And I don't think I responded. I was just like, okay. Because I was like, I'm done with. you. I am done with trying to talk to you. She goes, are you bottoming? She was like, she was like, I knew it. And you're a fucking bottom. I bet you take it. You're going to wear

diapers when you're older with that loose, loose hole. Can I ask a gay question? Yeah. There's a joke that the people who bottom are like, I'm a bottom. And then the people say their verse are bottoms. And the people who say their tops are bottom. So how do you find a top? Or it's who's ever more top in the really? It's one who's ever more. top but also there are definitely people who are like i top like there are people who are like are they in the closet yeah and then those are the ones who say they're straight no but there's i think there's a lot of people there's there's a lot of people who i've heard that there's a big progression of like when you're young you bottom and then when you grow older you're like and now

i want to top or something like that and so maybe that's going to be my progression like a larva into but i'm like yeah but there's a lot of right you just like suddenly you're dick is bigger and you're ready to do it. No, but like there's a lot of, um, I, I've met a lot of people who are like tops who are like, I, I can't bottom until I like really get to know someone because it feels very vulnerable and like, I guess I get it, but I'm the other way. I'm like, enter me. Enter me right now.

I don't need to know a thing about you. That's a lie. I'm not really that into a cup culture. But I will very much earlier on be like, I'm ready to bottom. And then topping is like, I feel like I have to be an alter ego. I'm going to talk. Like I have to be like, you know, like, you're going to take it, bitch. It's funny how they make it like being top is like so straight while you're like fucking a guy.

Like you're putting it in a guy's ass. Like you're just going to turn into a dumb straight guy. Right, right. But like, no, there's I, you know what I, you know what I really enjoy a soft top? It's someone who's very like still feels very vulnerable and connected to you. They're not trying to like rail you and rip your hole open. They're just like, I like, I want to like. connect, like, let me be inside.

I've never experienced that, but if you find a guy, I'm just going on. You're like, right. I go, that's a thing. Wait. They don't just slam you and you. You don't have to put it back over your head every time. I told you I once asked my lesbian friend.

I was like. Have you ever hooked up with a girl? I haven't, which is so disappointing. No, I have. I have. I've I've I've I said this on Megan's podcast I tried eating a girl out once I whisper it as if I'm not speaking into a microphone I yeah I tried it I was this was during my drinking phase uh right like different different she was different she was different she was blonde so

it's different okay so you've bad taste continue right so no so it was my I I I this was during my drinking vase I was like I was kind of fucked up and I tried it and it wasn't like it was fine well this is the thing I think a woman's body is really beautiful like I can solely see myself hooking up with a girl but I've never emotionally like what you said like once you know someone you're like I don't I don't right right been in a room and like gravitated towards a woman romanticly I immediately put them like that's my friend yeah and I'm like I don't want to think about you but you know who I am attracted to who me occasionally be attracted to gay men like Joel Kim booster I kind of want to fuck you know

what I think it is though I think it's like that is such comforting male energy it's like it's like I'm so not like I'm so not and talk about like hard to get right like he literally will be thinks about you and I'm like I'm like right it's like so not aggressive energy you're like I'm not scared of you at all he doesn't want you near him doesn't want anything to do with you that's what I think that's why and I'm attracted to humor right so like a funny guy yeah so not you but like if you were I knew that was coming. I knew that was coming. You teed it up too well and I saw it behind your eyes. But I do think that's why I initially like even gained a following because my following is like 85% women is like there. It's not because they're attracted to me. But they're like that's like male energy that I'm not scared of. That's not aggressive and that's not trying to take anything away from me.

Like that's like male energy that's like oh like cool. But you're also, I don't know if it's like your theater background, but you are an entertainer where there's some people I feel like people just like like like. Alex Earl. Like, she's a vibe. Right. Right. We're like, I feel like she's kind of person that would be shy on stage. Like, 100%. I don't think she wants to jump on stage. Yeah. No. But like, but like, I feel like me and you, it's just what, what medium or platform do you want us in and we'll express? I need validation. Yeah. Like, like it can be in person or online, but please cheer. Did you want to be an, um, an entrepreneur? Was that about segue? The way you said that sounded like you were teeing up for like some take. down you were like did you want like your the bat is rising i go you zone in did you want you want it's like i'm ready to like you have the knife um yeah i i am always i've always been interested in the business side of things like but i think it revealed itself as i went on like i wasn't sure i was just like i'm just going to create these videos and see what happens from here but then you start doing it and you're like wait what else can i do while i'm here like can i help other people with their TikToks? Can I help brands like blow up on TikTok? Can I start like

curating my own company from this and seeing what I can do? You're smart and hardworking. I, I do work my, I'm a Capricorn. Yes. What are you? Leo, Virgo moon, Scorpio Rising. I'm Capricorn, Virgo rising, Libra Moon. Love. Yeah. I think we're perfect. Right. I think we are. But the Virgo in us plus my Capricorn is like, You're going to work, work, work, work. If you find a creative who can, like, stay focused, that is danger. Like, that's where I think some comics are so funny, but they, like, can't even respond to an email.

Right, right. Like, I'm like, you're missing business opportunity. Please respond to me. Meanwhile, they have you blocked. They're like, I don't want to hear anything she has to say. I think that's what, but I'm not, like, driven in that way with, like, everything in my life. Like, I wasn't, like, the smartest kid in school. I wasn't, like, I am going to, like, do all.

I'm going to like slay my homework. I'm going to slay like my SATs and all that shit. Like I was pretty average. I got like A's and B's and like my SATs were like an 1800 or something like that. Back when it was like, wasn't it changed. It was like out of 2400 and then it was out of 1600. Yeah. So this is when I was out of 2400.

Is this showing that we're dumb? Because we're like we don't even know what it was out of. No, like I was. I'm not. Yeah. They're like you got 100 and I'm like, yeah. Period. No, like I wasn't that.

And so, but when I. find something I'm passionate about. Then I'm like, okay, I will do all of the work that it takes. I can edit videos for like 10 hours. I love it. 100%. When I first started and I was editing, we were, I was doing like five videos a day. I was just behind the computer all day.

I didn't need to eat. I didn't need to do any. I was just like packing the mainframe. And you must be really good at consuming too because you were always like on the like brink of every trend doing it in like your best way. That's how I've, I didn't know you had like a previous relationship. I discovered you literally when you were just doing like funny shit online I was like he's funny right I didn't even know about it oh yeah I did I had like an entire life when I first started the app of like couple content yeah and then that I guess I guess since I was doing that for about a year it's been a year since the breakup so now I've been solo for just as long as I was a couple content creator so like and my solo career has done much better then you wouldn't have done that i'm making trainers podcast that was disrespectful you loved it you were

very into it do it in my mouth right right next time um so it there i think like um yeah i've had like a few different lives on the app going through it but that's what makes people more interesting yeah well if you do one you could do one thing the whole time and like people are going to get tired of you no matter what if you just stick to one thing you have to evolve yeah i think it's like I think it's very, if that's what you want to do, like Emily Mariko, she wants to cook and she's going to keep doing that forever and like go off. And she continues getting new audience members and like, and that's truly what she wants to do.

She doesn't want to. I was just a tweeter. Like I only would tweet and put it on Instagram and they would whatever. Twitter is like the one of the darkest social media. But I wouldn't ever like engage in Twitter. I would tweet and then screenshot it and put it on Instagram. And if something did really well on Twitter, I'd know I could put it on Instagram. but like I wasn't part of the Twitter culture just Instagram

and people were always like why don't you just make it a tweet page like why do you post photos too and I'm like because one day I'm going to wake up and be done tweeting right and I knew that that was like I knew it was just a stepping stone for but I didn't know what if your tweets were funny would you then put it and they did well would you then put it in your comedy set yeah yeah well that's how I first started comedy because I had all these tweets and my friend was like just say that so I like organize the tweets like which ones are about eating which ones are about farting which ones are about

cuddling and then i kind some work some were just like premises but yeah that's how i started oh my god you're so interested in my life when you no no i am asking when you do a comedy set do you have to like is it kind of like memorizing a script like are you like i need to go this and then that needs to hook into this and then that and then you need to know it's definitely like a song yeah it's like a rhythm where i could like space out and do it but you really want to be engage to like if someone says something or like if the energy is weird you might need to like ramp it up yeah because it's not just giving a speech it's a very it's much like a dance right where their energy really affects my energy and you have to play off of it and you have to play off of it or i might

like do a super dirty joke they don't like it i do a little recovery joke about it and then go we're doing cat content right switch to cats because this is not the audience for this is not like you would be so surprised how much comedians are obsessed with the audience we're also obsessed with architecture of the room. Like if the ceiling's not low enough or if it's not dark enough, we'll be like, the fucking room, the ceiling was too high,

because it's all about the energy of the laughs. Like, you're like a conductor. Right. And it's like, da, da, da, da, da, da, ch. And so you know, because of your jokes, when stuff's supposed to hit. And if it doesn't, you go,

we have to cut the fat on that joke. So, but when someone does like these Netflix specials that are in like these huge theaters, is that just like a huge challenge for them? Or because it's a Netflix special, they know it's just going to kind of flow. Great question. So as someone who like wants to shoot a special eventually, if I've just been doing comedy clubs, thank you baby, I've just been doing comedy clubs for me to do like my first

Netflix special in a theater and you're not used to a theater, it's a whole different vibe. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like the timing of the laughs are different. They come differently. It's less intimate. So some people make a mistake and like they don't do enough theaters before filming it. But also Netflix specials when they start it, they make the audience. give laughs. Right, like they have to have laughs. So they do give a soft laugh, give a hard laugh. Like,

you do this whole little laugh practice. Right. And then they have to edit in the laughs if you're not get, like, there are rumors that some comedy specials like bombed, but they edited the laughs and like the comedy specials did amazing. And it's not because the comedians aren't funny. Right. It's because the audience in that room, the vibe. Sometimes audiences get tight when there's cameras. Right. There's so many aspects to think of something funny you say and how you get a different reaction for it, depending on the mood, where you are, the people. Well, because sometimes I can also acknowledge that something was funny, even if I didn't like belly laugh at it.

Exactly. You know, I can be like, oh, yeah, she's a really good comic, but I could watch the whole thing and just be like, that was funny, that was funny. But if I'm in the room, I might laugh because I'm just like, we all need to laugh. Like, that's the energy. Sometimes, though, like, a room could be tight because there isn't like an alpha laugher. It's kind of scientific.

like I'm obsessed with it. You need to have like one person who doesn't give a fuck and is like, and then they get people around them to loosen up. Right. And it sometimes takes one crazy laffer to give the room. Do they ever place that person? No, but I've thought about it if I ever had to.

Yeah. To like get a friend who knows so good at laughing. Right, right. Because they can change your room. Because imagine if like no one around you is laughing that hard. You're just going to be like, oh, I don't want to be a weirdo. Yeah, I have a friend for, I know the, I have a friend for you. Yeah, who can laugh because he.

always every time we go to a show or anything like or a comedy show or anything like that he will laugh at every joke and laughs are contagious right even if he doesn't think like i know there are some of these jokes that i'm like you did not find that shut the fuck up but like he will laugh because he's just like he's game or he's there for the comics without the laugh track you'd be like the show's not funny yeah but if you see other people laughing you're like oh it's a good show right i've i've only ever seen one comic like really bomb And it's tough. It is tough to watch because you have empathy. You're like, I am so, oh my God, get off the stage. Like, I'm so sorry for you. A lot of the time it's like maybe you say something weird in the beginning and they all just kind of get off you. And then it's right. Then they see all your joke through a lens that's like this person's weird.

Because they started off on the wrong foot. Because comedy, like you have to be, they have to trust you. Yeah. And you also have to be, when you're first starting out, you probably have to be prepared that it's like, okay, I don't know how this is going to work. like it might not work like when you first start i'm sure i guess you do your set for like friends and you test it out and you're like tell me if this is good tell me what doesn't work yeah but the first time you go in front of an audience even if your friends thought it was fucking great like you don't know i do have to say people always are like isn't it so scared you're gonna bomb

some of the funniest shit is when i say something that's like because also you have a sense of humor right so like i know my sense of humor i'm never going to say something on stage that's like so weird or not me yeah but like i'll say something and maybe it doesn't really hit. Joking that it didn't hit makes me so laugh. You're like, thank you one person. Like,

literally, there's so many things that you go, thinking one person. And then they laugh harder than they would have laughed to the original joke. Right, right. So that's just people bomb when they are so scared of bombing.

Right, where I come in just like, whatever, I'm fucking tired. If you guys hate this, we're going to, and I guess that's the difference with TikTok too is like if I bomb,

I just, there are less numbers on that post. Like, I'm not getting direct. feedback. I'm getting direct feedback through my phone, but I'm not looking at faces of people being like, I didn't like that one. I'm just seeing like, okay. Or you just go, oh, the algorithm sucks today. Which I'm shadow banned. Everyone's favorite line ever. It's like, it's like, oh my God, it's the app. It's the app. This is really good content and they don't like it. Which like,

sure, once, one out of a thousand times, the app didn't like something happened with the algorithm. There's a bug just on my profile. There's a bug just on my profile. everyone else's videos did well today. I don't know what's going on. But like I've just come to terms with the fact that if a video doesn't do well, I'm like, okay, I'm not going to like literally do that video again. I'm going to recreate it. And that's why I have so many series too, because I'm like, okay, that video did well.

I'm going to do the same format, different ingredients. No one could put you in a box. No. Yeah. Like, let me just like keep trying to expand my brand and see what I can do from there. But you were part of that early TikTok wave where like certain people like were kind of like, you know, you're a stock. Like you're bigger than TikTok.

Like I think you drew like Tinks. Britney Brosky. Britney Brosky. Britney Brosky is the biggest star of us all. She is just, but these are like really fucking naturally funny, talented smart people. Did you ever think that you were going to get into such like a celebrity? I mean, no. And I still don't really feel like that.

Like, I mean, it's what we were talking about before. And I also like, I hate when people are like, I'm like, I'm so normal. I'm so normal. you guys but I'm like I just hearing the like oh this celebrity situation it's like I don't know I I I never I think also being around Megan who I really do consider a celebrity who's also like the most grounded person in the world it all and her husband also is like husband so normal like all they want is just to have more kids and like their baby's kind of an asshole they're he he he's an a lister like has a rider he's like I don't I'm not allowed to talk to him

I can't look him in the eyes only blue M&M's yeah only blue oh my we gave him green once is he homophobic raging which is crazy but he only does it behind close doors right Megan's gone like he look at me F slur immediately it's crazy that was his first word yeah that was his first word um so anyway uh I I never know but I never really anticipated that any of this was going to happen in the way that it did because you're just kind of like creating videos and hoping that it works And then it continues working. And then you're like, okay, great.

But it wasn't like, I booked a TV show or I did some, I did a movie or did some huge thing that it was like, okay. It's time, it's changing now. Yeah, like you got your big break. I got my big break. It was never that. It's such a different progression. But you know, it's fucking crazy as someone who in the industry, everyone talks about how you're going to get a TV show, how are you going to get a movie. And then you realize more people are watching your TikToks than they would like a TV show that's like not that great.

I think getting on a show can actually sometimes hinder you if you want a bigger career because you see people who are on The Bachelor or on Too Hot to Handle or things like that and they get a huge moment for the time the season is airing and then very quickly everyone forgets about them and you're just known as that person from Too Hot to Handle or that person from the Bachelor and they have a really hard time trying to continue like relevancy or why do people care right we're right which is like that is it can be a huge stepping stone, but if you don't launch yourself off in the right way

after being on one of those shows, no one's going to pay attention to you anymore. As someone who's done reality TV, there's like certain people on the show that you're like, wow, you have a great personality, you're smart, I could see you do stuff with this. And then there's some people that like TV can make anyone seem interesting. Right.

Or like, funny. Editing is so easy. Literally some people like they just do the right kind of cuts and the context. and then someone's like, they can make you into any character you want. Right. And some of these people, sometimes they get edited badly and they're not really that person. Sometimes they get edited really sweet.

They're not that person. Edited great. And then when they leave the show, they have an identity crisis or like people don't know how to relate to them because, I mean, there's not a lot of reality TV people on TikTok for a reason. Because I think a lot of them don't want to show their personalities. And a lot of the time I feel like when they do get on it, it's not really, it doesn't really go in the right way. Like, yeah. I think they expect it to be like, and now I'm here. But they don't know how to use the app in the right way.

So it's like they're trying to do things and none of it is hitting. Yes. Which is why I've started like being like, I am willing to help people with this. Because when I see someone who I know could be a star or I know could do really well on the app and they're just not making the correct content, I'm like if you just had the slightest bit of guidance. Like once you say you're a consulting person, that's like that's money. also like a made up thing right no it's crazy because these things like coming out of my mouth like I'm a businessman I'm a consultant I'm like I look in the mirror and I'm like no you are not like shut the fuck up who are you know but I do know that that like lives in me and that I have that brain

and like I just did an interview at like at Bloomberg business this morning oh my god and I was they were talking about the business side of things and shit was coming out of my mouth and I was like who is this person like but you are the most qualified to talk about it. Someone who's like 20 years older, like, no one has 20 years experience of TikTok. Right. Right. No one. And so it does make sense.

And like, but I was saying these things that I was like, you know, when I talk about like brands and UGC and conversion of like views into sales, I was like, I don't know where any of this is coming from, but I've done enough scrolling on the app that I just have research taught myself. Like I also watch a lot of like those dumb like info YouTube videos about. about random shit that I feel like has actually oddly taught me a lot. Like I know a lot about the flying economy. I know a ton about airlines just because I fly all the time.

But I also know about different airports and why they work the way they do because I've watched a lot of YouTube videos on them. Are you freaking out over the Southwest drama? Craziness. And that's because Southwest is on a point to point system and not a hub to spoke system. You're blowing my mind right now. And I don't know why I know that information, but I've watched a bunch of videos. I I I'm so actually my top ones right now are United and JetBlue but I'm diversifying to American and Delta so I can have status across all of them but Delta I've actually had a most bad experiences on which is surprising because a lot of people are very Delta loyal because Delta does have a really strong point system but I have never really had an issue on United did the other ones have TVs yeah I think that's no and same and I will do

research like to jet blue when they first had TVs we were losing our minds yeah I will do research to figure out what kind of plane we're going to fly on before I do it I need to know where my seat is I need to know like literally is is this going to be a Boeing 7879 dreamliner or are we doing a 777 800 because there is a difference between the like also did you watch the Boeing documentary watch out for one of those planes surprisingly no I didn't but I think I'm going to have to you have I will absolutely watch this documentary you have to it's a on Netflix for some reason and like I know a lot about cars like I've just been I'm like really nerdy in these different pockets of things but I do think it oddly helps me with everything that

I'm doing on TikTok. Well you have to be constantly consuming and you also like have to want to learn things the second you decide I know shit is when right and that's that's like that that has occasionally been a problem when I've worked with people not but like when I work with Megan the reason we work together so well is because I'll give an idea. she'll be like well what if we did it this way I'll be like that's actually so much better than what I was thinking you're right like your ego needs to strip away

you need to have the ability to pivot and be like and no other people will have better ideas than you and that's a great thing but sometimes I work with people who I'll like I'll give an idea and they'll be like no it's this and I know that's a worse idea

and they're like no like I'm not I'm not gonna really do what you're saying and I'm like okay well but here's the thing like I we know I'm the good one at this like we know I know what I'm doing here I want to help you out but if you if you don't want to help at all if you've decided you're done learning and you've decided you're the best at this then I don't really know how to help you well your business has gone from like you in your apartment with a phone to now having to collaborate and deal with like executives and brands right and learning how to collaborate and get your ideas

and get approvals on things. And if I'm like if if someone wants to work together and they're like, we're just going to need to see all the videos or you're going to send over concepts. And if they say no to a concept, I'm like, I mean, okay, but like you guys are missing out on this. Like I have given you the things to really help out. And if you really want to hire me or trust me with work or something like that, you should be saying yes to you like that's and that's I think the business model I want to run on with when when working with Megan and her team and whoever else they want me to work with is like I think the thing I need to go forth

with from the beginning is like I just need you to trust me because that's the basis of how we're going to make this successful because if if you are going in with an idea of being like this is actually the way I need to do it then why are you hiring me because if you know what you're doing then go do it and you know your audience better than anyone yeah and the audience of TikTok in general and what's going to work for me is not going to work is not essentially going to work for you. We're going to have to do completely different things for you because your audience is going to respond to it in a fully different way. So how do you deal with your day to day right now? Is it just chaos? It's pretty chaos. Like the day before I flew to New York, I was, I filmed the new music video

with Megan. And then I drove right from there to the airport to get on a red eye to come here and then do a brand campaign. I like took a new jet setting. It was crazy. It's craziness. But then I have to like on Thursday I have no plans you know what I mean like so how's your sanity like how's your anxiety how's your depression has it changed since success it definitely goes in and out I think the depression hits honestly on the days that I have the most free time true because I'm like sitting and I'm like I'm stuck with your thoughts I'm sad like it's also oddly hits right before I take a flight like every time I like get I'm like waiting by the gate or I get on a plane I'm like I'm so lonely what the fuck am I doing and like what is the purpose of any of this life moving because I also have the fear that I'm like because I am flying around all the time I'm like will anyone actually be able to like do this with me or if they can't are they going to be okay with me doing this all the time and that's been that's been my big fear with dating you should probably worry about your looks first before like the logistics of someone flying with you well you would know about that too because as someone who's never really figured it out I feel like you know you're still able to get married yeah that's

That did help. Right. Right. Yeah, yeah. We're going to play a final game. You're doing amazing. This has been so good. How have we talked for a full hour?

We literally flew. I could go for like three more hours and we'd probably still like cover just half of what we were talking about. Literally didn't touch on anything we were supposed to. Oh, so I'm coming out with a coffee brand. And that's really exciting. And it's called flight fuel. And it's like I named it that because I'm connecting it with like my flying for coffee vibe.

How long is this? this been in the works? I think almost over a year at this point. So I've been because the design phase takes a whole lot of time. And then I had to try about like 20 to 30 different coffee blends, which obviously takes a lot of days. And this is your name on this brand. It's not like you're like, I recommend this. Like this is your shit. I'm creating it. I'm working with a brand in the UK that's like helping literally go from the ground up. So what's your favorite part about this coffee? I think because because it really came from me

the design phase of it was probably the most fun obviously tasting it was amazing but when I was able to like I kind of went with this like 70s Pan Am vibe retro that's like nostalgic but also modern

for what it is and then also being able to my friend is a barista in L.A. So she came over and helped me try all of them and so the testing phase and like I wrote notes about literally each one that I tried and so narrowing it down to I'm doing three blends of beans and then two cold brew concentrates and just the concentrates are so I'm such a cold brew person but also like it started making me love like just like regular coffee as well

and like trying it out in those ways too my husband's obsessed with coffee like I'll send you I'll send you a little PR package oh my god thank you it's just one coffee you're like I know you can't afford it otherwise so that express money ran out pretty quick huh so let's play a game anyway buy the coffee brand it's going to be really great i'm so excited everyone has to check it out more to come on all of my social media accounts i can't wait i'm so excited for you an entrepreneur entrepreneur okay speed around seven deadly sins What am I greedy about? Yeah.

Don't give me attitude. Just answer the question. I love a nice thing. Like, I will buy myself, I'll buy myself a nice item. I actually, my New Year's resolution was like stop buying clothes because I will treat myself over and over again. Wait, I'm so bad at that. Like, I only have fake designer bags.

No, yeah. So I will, is that fake? Yeah. Love. No, no, no. Like, I'll be like, I deserve it. And then I'll walk in to just like, this is crazy. Like, I can't believe.

this is another thing because I grew up being like so materialistic and my dad was always like that is like horrifying like you were disgusting I will never buy you any of that and so now that I've like made my own money I'm just like I'm going to go into Dior and I'm going to get myself something I deserve it I have this crazy money anxiety where I think I'm a professional basketball player that like if I buy one prod a bag that I'm going to just like lose all my money right like I'm just going to go off the deep end see but I won one one person told me one time that if you are stingy with your money, then it won't flow in the same way.

When my friends said that too, LA girls talked about money manifestation. If you hold it too tight, it won't try to get away. And so that's what made me start just being like, I just kind of spend freely. I also save pretty well. I'm a pretty good saver.

Yeah, like you're not reckless. I'm not bad at treating myself. Like, I treat myself. I need to do that more because I also think it gives you a confidence and a Geneseecois. I also, I'm a gift. Giving is my love language. I will,

I get things for my friends non-stop. Wait, that's so cute. Like I will, I will actually spend more money on my friends than myself any day because I'm like, wait, like, what do you want? Like,

like my, um, one of my friends is really into clothes. And so for her Christmas present, brought her to Rodeo drive. And it was like, pick what you want. And then we just like shopped.

You're literally the cutest sugar daddy. I'm, I am a little sugar daddy. And I love it. I love it. It is so fun. I, I'm that.

way too where I like to think of something like that they no one else would have thought of for them right that they think is cute or like but when it when it comes to another friend who is who is like you know like Megan raking in the money so for her because gift giving is to my love language I have to be creative I made her a book of every TikTok we've ever made together with the description of the TikTok how many views and likes it had and so it's our TikTok of 2022 she has like a full book so freaking cute so fun Who are you envious of? I know there's an answer because I'm envious of people and it's not you. That's super defensive of you to say because everyone in the room knows it's me.

No. No. You could tell yourself that. Who am I envious of? You know, I did have the thought. I'm not like, this isn't an aggressive envy, but I did have the thought where I was like, damn, like Alex Earle is popping off. Like, I wish that was, I wish I could post what she posts and,

have the same thing happen to me. It is crazy because I feel like she's on everyone's algorithm. But I feel like people are obsessed with her, obviously. But they're more obsessed with the fact that they're obsessed with her. I think everyone's just more like, what? Like, we haven't had someone blow up like that in a while

since like, you know, back in the day. Yeah. Right. We're right. How many followers? Yeah. But she's just kind of like I think she's, it's the anomaly of her. And so I wasn't, it wasn't this like wow but i was like god i wish i wish i wish i could i wish i had done get ready

with me obviously like i trip her if i saw her in the street but what i'm proud of her for is i i've you ever like get a bunch of followers and then get in your head for a second go uh-oh i hope i don't post something that people don't like and then they unfollow me yeah like she has continued to put out content and just honestly get better with the content right i mean she post i think she posts like every day or something like that also that is the key for ticot like i know I grew from posting three times a day. Early on, that's what you have to do.

You have to do that. I'm just now entering my era of posting when I want instead of... Oh, I saw that. Your new era of like being mysterious. Right. I'm just not, well, it's,

and it's not like pressure. I'm just not putting pressure on myself to consistently post because for like the first year, I posted every day multiple times a day. Second year, it was every day during the week. And now I think I'm just like,

now I'm just going to post when I have a really good video. Yeah. That's it. I mean, you'll burn out. Also, you'd be surprised sometimes things go better when you, like. It's already going better. And I've burned out, like I've gone through burnout plenty of times. I took a week off and, like, went skiing and people were going nuts over my ski content

on Instagram and like, it was just, it was so random, though, because I wasn't trying. I just happened to be on vacation and, like, making fun of myself. Where'd you go? You went to Aspen? No, we went to Park City. Poor. Yeah. I'm kidding.

I thought it's crazy. Aspen, something happened with Aspen. We're supposed to be there. I've never been to Aspen, but I do. Like, now I aspire because it's like, oh, that's where all of the rich people go, I guess. But I also, as a New Yorker, I love being away from people. So when things are, like, too popular, I kind of don't want. Also, my husband's, like, obsessed with, like, actually skiing.

Oh. It's pretty toxic. Were you snowboarding? No. Someone missed my content. Okay. Yeah, right. Well, when's last time you experienced extreme wrath or anger?

Honestly, the last time I was in a relationship. That's a long time. It's been a long time. And, you know, I was, I was never really an angry person before that. And I haven't been after that. Like, I, I, I, uh, yeah, like, I, you know, I get annoyed. I've experienced annoyance, but I haven't had anger since my last relationship. And I, there were times I was angry.

Yeah. Yeah. And people are mirrors and will bring out sides of you. tough they're really tough and yeah there there were definitely times like we got mad for sure I respect that um what was the last time you were a sloth or a lazy piece of shit like last week do you wake up early I don't sleep yeah I wake up between like seven or eight depending on no matter what coast I'm on I'm jealous like if I come over here I'll just set an alarm for seven or eight because I'm like I just hate I hate sleeping in that late like like 11 or 12 wow yeah

I have to fix my sleep. There was a phase early on in content creation after I graduated from college that I would like go to sleep at 12 and wake up at 10.30. Like I was getting my sleep. Yes. I was like it was I was just living perpetual summer break. And then I was just kind of like, okay, I don't actually love that. I would love to do more with my day.

I actually, the hard thing that was because I'm performing at night, you get home all jacked up. Oh yeah. And then I'm on TikTok and then it's like 3 a.m. Yeah. I am my most awake at night for sure. I don't have too many days when I'm fully lazy I like if I have nothing planned that day I'll still try to like go to the gym

because I will hate myself if I feel like I've sat at home all day besides Megan who's your who do you think was like the coolest celebrity that you met like nice and funny meeting Austin Butler like at the Elvis premiere is kind of insane because like that is he was like literally he was the moment

and he like put his arm around me and like looked at it felt like it felt like we were flirting, which I think he does with everyone, but like, yeah, he, that was a crazy one. Is he flirting? Is he just really good looking and looked at you? I think he's just really good looking and he literally just like looked at me. How, what's your opinion

on his voice? Like, I don't give a thought. I don't even look. I don't hear him when he speaks. Like speak whatever you want to say, I do not care. I think it's great. It's great. What was the last time you lusted over someone? So like, who's your celebrity crush besides Austin Butler? Celebrity

crush. That's gay. Jonathan daily of Bridgeton for sure or Ben Aldridge who was in um flea bag oh yeah I haven't watched it till see I've only watched part of season one but I actually I DM'd him and I said give me a chance he never responded or saw anything he probably saw it but was like fuck no um so those two um because that the guy that throws coffee and every right he was he he saw it and like got sick to his stomach he was no but also like I don't I don't want you to be for like a little like like emrodipy Davidson PR thing like going to date with him but like you need someone grounded yeah yeah yeah yeah like insanity yeah like I yeah yeah yeah yeah I get a divorce I feel like 100% I don't

think I want to date someone who's too um who's too much of an entertainer I think someone who's who maybe understands the business is pretty good yeah but if you're removed moved enough, I feel like, like I, but I've gone, like, my guy's an entertainer and I love entertainers, but he's tired. Like, he's 47. Right. So if I met him in his 30s, like, we would have missed each other? And I feel like, have you said somewhere before that you're like, you know, even though you're like, people should, comic shouldn't date though. Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't. Yeah, yeah, right, right. Yeah, I think it's the same like TikTokers shouldn't date or like, actors shouldn't date. Like it's, you know, if you're literally doing the same thing, it's just going to get to. murky. Yes. It gets weird unless you really, like, for example, we're not competitive because he's, like, lived my life already. Right.

Sometimes he'll give me advice that's good. Sometimes I'm like, I need to experience it for myself. Right, right. So he gets me, but we're not butting heads on anything. No. Final question. Focus. Focus on me.

What advice would you give to the little devils on how to cope with their hell when it's dark and you're in it? Is this a question you ask everyone? this is a burning in hell question yeah this is the fucking podcast you went on right also is that your answer no no no no wait so how do i tell the little devils how to cope with their how do you cope with your hell when you're in hell right i think it's just like honestly it's so it's it's it's annoyingly simple when i was in like a pretty abusive relationship sophomore year of high school like this guy would like tell me to kill myself and all these things when i was really different pressed one of my friends was like you just we he he would like request me to talk to him in his room

which was upstairs like right above my room like a board academy boarding school i i ended up memorizing the sound of his footsteps so i would know when to like pretend i was asleep or like close the door were you dating yeah we were dating but he wanted to keep it a secret and he was like he was like the only way i could feel like comfortable with him was if i was on his good side. So he would just like terrify me. But anyway, there was a time when we were in a fight and he was like, you come to my room at two o'clock. I was talking to my friend about it, the one friend who knew we were together. And she was like, the one thing I remind myself every time one of these things is happening is like that Bible verse like this two shall pass. And I would just repeat

that like, and it's the good news, nothing lasts forever and the bad news, nothing lasts forever. So that oddly stuck with me every time I've been in a huge anxiety moment in my life when I went to rehab, when I had the intervention. I was like, no matter what I'm doing. this it's going to be over at some point I will always be on the other side this relationship this conversation this um rehab this horrible thing that I'm going through this fucking podcast it will pass like you're you're like it's and that's why it also is the good news and the bad news it's like you can be having a really great moment and that moment is going to end at some point and hopefully you can create another one in the future but if you're if you're going through

something that's really horrible, it never will last forever. Like, no matter what it is, as horrible as it feels, there's always another side to it. And I always try to remind people when they're like, how do I get through this thing? I'm like, have you been through anything hard in your life before? And they're like, yeah, well, this happened. And I'm like, well, you got through that. Like, what? And then what did you do?

Was it horrible ever since then? And usually the answer is like, no, because I was able to get through this. But now this is happening. And I'm like, well, months from now, you're going to look back at this and be like, wow. that ended like thank god it's done so it's like an annoyingly simple answer but that's what it is no you're so right and i also feel like when if you haven't gone through anything you're so scared of all the horrible things that could happen and you don't know if you could survive it but once all this bad shit happens to you you literally are like universe what are you going to give me because

i'm not scared because i'm here yeah i made a video about my rehab experience because it was very unique and it was like one of those places where it was like they weren't nice to you they were like where you are horrible. You need to tell us all of your secrets. You had to do an entire timeline of your life. And if you were talking about one of the horrible things you did and you weren't like crying, they were like,

so you don't care about any of these people. And they were like, it was very much like, we are going to break you down. Like one of the girls, her mom was visiting over the weekend. And she like asked to see her mom's phone and texted a friend. It was like,

I'm trying to leave here in a month. The next day we walked into group. the texts were printed out and placed all over the room and the therapist was like hey do you want to tell the group what they're looking at right now and then she broke down

and had to explain everything and sometimes we would walk into group and the therapist would be like so someone broke a rule and we're going to sit here until that person admits to what they did and a group was an hour and a half long if no one admitted to it

we would sit there until someone did and that was a tactic because occasionally someone who wasn't even caught would start spilling and she would be like well that wasn't what I was talking about but now here are your consequences and shit like that so um but the whole reason that they did that was like you are going to live at the highest level anxiety that you've ever lived at for about six to nine months and then you're going to get out of here and you're going to realize you survived it and so anything that's thrown at you in life you're going to know that you already went through the hardest portion of your life when you're here right now

Did your parents know their tactics, like that it was that extreme? Because that could work with some people, but I would argue that it could be like super traumatizing. It was, and it was traumatizing while also it working. Yeah. To an extent. There's no perfect way to help an addict, but parents weren't off limits. When you came down for parents weekend, if you as the parent were doing something wrong, the therapist were coming for you too. And a lot of parents would storm out because they would be like, I'm not paying for you to come for me.

And they would be like, but you are also the reason that your child is this way. I mean, and they didn't want to hear that. The popcorn you could eat during a day at the least was an amazing. You don't understand. Like, at the end of the day, it was traumatizing, but I also lived for the drama. Like, oh, my, you would hear a therapist screaming at their patients down the hall and everyone would get quiet. Because, like, you're not, you're with all these people going through the same shit. Like, yeah, this sucks, but that person's also going through that.

But I'm proud of you for surviving that. Yeah. I mean, you would be like, oh, yeah, I got locked out of my apartment for the day because it wasn't clean and then the other people would be like oh same by the way by clean it was always clean i mean like there was a speck of dust on the baseboard and they were like you don't respect your space we're locking you out of it and then and it's also like your food was in your apartment so they were like you can ask around and see if anyone will be willing to like let you eat and of course because we're all in this together you go up to your friends and they're like i got locked out and they're like

yeah come on it like whatever you want you know but like yeah it's that it's crazy and then like you see a little beer after getting out and you're like, I don't want to go through it again. And that is it. Like I think one of my main motivations at least for the first few years out is just like I, I don't want to go through that again. Get me away from that place. And then you start living a life that's so much better than the one you did before. And you're like, oh, now I just want to stay sober because I love my life the way it is. Yes. Like back to what you said before about your husband. Like I would not, none of this would work out the way that it did. If I had like a job and like money coming in while I was an active addict, I'd be dead.

And I say that like truthfully. I would actually not be alive because I would be able to get enough stuff that would eventually kill me. Like that was kind of the one thing that was really holding me back was like I had an overdrawn bank account most of the time and couldn't afford to buy drugs. Wow. So to end on that note. So that's how, you know, my life was. so iconic. I'm obsessed with you. And I think you're iconic too. I mean, I came in honestly hating you. Yeah. And I mildly like you now, which is, I mean, who would have thunk? Right. I mean,

you came in with this stench and I'm pretty like used to it at this point. No, no, no, no. It was disgusting. No, but yeah, yeah. Like, I'm glad we have this conversation, I guess. Can you tell everyone where to follow you what your name of the coffee company is that I'm so excited to try? So, And all the tea. I should have been like looking more this way this whole time. No, it's fine. Should we redo it? No, no, no.

Yeah, can we, do you want to start from the top? Yeah, let's start from the top. No, so I'm Chris Olson. You can, my TikTok is at Chris. My Instagram is at Chris Olson. YouTube is Chris Olson. And my coffee company, you should follow all of those things to find out more about it. He is the least successful Olson sister.

And that's true. And I will actually really accept that. It's like out of all the famous Olsons in the world, I am the least successful. But I do feel like we should all hang out sometimes. So I know they all listen to this podcast. Yeah, they're obsessed. Hang out. And that's where you can find me and be on the lookout.

Oh, I'm also on a, I was on a billboard that Hannah was on that you could have found in Times Square. I was on it for like two minutes. I mean, to be fair, my part was really short as well. Like we all did not get very long. I'm a short short. Yeah. Like, could you get a photo of it? Like, you couldn't get a photo.

You had to do, like, a video and then stop it. Wow. But, um, it was a creative decision. Yeah. My creative director. 100%. He regrets. Um, thank you guys for listening.

Thank you. And we'll talk to you later. Bye. Kisses.