Berner Phone - Dr. Mike: The Sexiest Doctor Alive & Unsexy Issues

Episode Date: December 26, 2018

People Magazine named Doctor Mike Varshavski "The Sexiest Doctor Alive". He's a real physician, philanthropist, and has almost 3 million followers on Instagram. Hannah is determined to find out what's wrong with him because he seems perfect and that makes her uncomfortable. LIVE SHOW (use the code BERN for 50% off): http://www.carolines.com/comedian/berning-in-hell-live-podcast/ Follow Hannah Berner on Instagram & Twitter: @beingbernz Follow Dr. Mike on Instagram & Twitter: @doctor.mike --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Burning Hell I'm your host, Hannah, and welcome to hell. Today I'm with physician, philanthropist, and sexiest doctor alive, Dr. Oh, that was close. I did my research. I did my research. You know what's crazy?

It sounds like it would be a complicated. The last name, but if you look at it, it's so phonetic. You know, it's funny? I just got intimidated by it. It's just too big. It happens. That's what she said. Hey, we're going to have some innuendums.

Was that a good intro? You made me blush a little bit. Oh. So I appreciate that. Well, I knew Dr. Mike, because we've done some work together. We've done some interviews. And surprisingly, he is incredibly intelligent and legitimate as a doctor. If anyone was born.

I'm just saying most of us see you with your very tasteful thirst traps. Well, you know, you've got to get the thirst traps. There's an art to your thirst chaps, though. Well, there's an art because how do you get people interested in boring stuff like flu shots and cancer screenings? I would fall asleep listening to that. But when you pair it with a scandal, you come for the scandal, stay for the content. That's sort of my motto. You're truly a marketing expert as well.

Well, I try and be because as a doctor, you have to be a marketing expert. You're right. Marketing is all about influencing others. So if I have a patient come into my office, they need to change their diet, they change their lifestyle, they need to take their medications and they don't want to. how do I influence them to do that? Because influence is thrown around as a negative term. But in actuality, if you're doing it for the right reasons, influence is really powerful. It's true.

It's like behind all the handsomeness is actually a purpose. You do a lot of charity work. But it's kind of like, I get it, Dr. Mike. He's handsome. He's smart. He does charity work. And he is a cute dog. Like, I get it.

Two cute dogs. Excuse me, two cute dogs. You can't forget the dogs. They're the rock stars. Double the cute. Has everyone on Instagram love the dogs? The dogs are probably what made me who I am today. My initial headline on BuzzFeed when I went viral was Hot Doctor and his Husky.

It started from one article on BuzzFeed, right? One article and then half a million subs in two days, three days. Insane. I actually remember with my mom seeing your page once. I was on the phone with my mom before this. She goes, tell Dr. Mike I think he's cute. I said, back off, mom. Well, we're in the era where regular people become famous through social media.

Fame is a very gray area now. Also, I like Dr. Mike because we're both from Brooklyn. I'm from Park Slope. Where are you from again? Bay Ridge. But Dr. Mike looks perfect on paper and Instagram and when he's in the doctor's office and when he's on YouTube and wherever he is. So I said, I need to get this guy on my podcast so I can get to the bottom of who Dr. Mike is.

I like the mystery that comes along with it. I feel like I'm going to find something out about myself that I didn't know through this. It's like a counseling session. You never know. But I was surprised. I messaged you because we've done work together. And I was like, this podcast is. This is about mental, I'm warning you, and he was like, yeah, whatever.

But we talked about mental health before in a strictly kind of doctory way. Is that the doctor term, doctory? I like it. Okay. But now we're going to talk about you. Okay. Are you scared? No.

You seem a little nervous. No, because what I do and what I think has made me successful in the past is that I'm constantly being introspective. I'm constantly trying to figure out what my motivations are. Why am I doing what I'm doing? I remember when Instagram first started. I deleted my Instagram for a while just. to see like why I was doing it, if I was doing it for the right reasons.

And doing that all the time allows you to be really in touch with your emotions, comfortable talking about anything. And for most people, I tell them, you know, outside of some personal things that are happening in the moment, open book. I'm ready to talk. I love that. So let's begin. What's your biggest insecurity physically?

That's a good question. I think I have a really little head. The top head. Now I can't unsee it. I felt like I needed to clarify. It's so funny because my ex was very insecure. He had a huge top head. Well, top heads, you want a big one because everyone in Hollywood, everyone famous, everyone on TV.

He was an actor. All right, I'm totally stealing this, by the way, from Anteraj. Did you watch the series? No, I didn't. I should, though. Okay. It's a really good series. It's a must watch.

Okay. So in one of the scenes, someone was saying, do you think he's going to be a big star? They're talking about Vince, the main character. And they say, well, of course, he's got a big head. You think about John Travolta, Big Head. And a lot of them are many. There are many people with huge heads. Huge heads, but on screen, that huge head, it pops.

But you look great on screen. Well, thank you. There's a lot of facetune action happening. Okay, why do you face tune? Why do I face tune? Well, lighting's not great, teeth don't look perfectly white. You want to look spotty. Why do you want to look perfect?

Well, because you're selling yourself. I'm marketing myself on social media. That's part of what I do. Yeah. It's one of those things that as long as you're honest about it and people are straightforward, I think it's fine. Just how, like, if you get plastic surgery, it's not a big deal. Unless you're like hiding it and are super insecure about it, then are you getting it for the right reasons.

Yeah, I just had a funny image in my head of like a normal guy. When I say normal, I just mean a dude doesn't work out that much scrolling and seeing Dr. Mike and being like, oh, that body image that isn't actually attainable. I also think when I do editing, I don't try and make myself look like something I'm not. Yes. So like if the yellow light is hitting my teeth weird or my teeth look yellow in real life. And also you do a ton of videos and stuff. Yeah, videos you can't edit.

You can't really edit. He looks like he does in his photos. It's pretty obnoxious. What's your biggest insecurity emotionally? I'm really sensitive. Are you cancer? I'm a Scorpio. Usually that brings out a powerful response in people.

I don't know. People hate or love Scorpios. People hate Scorpios, but I dated a Scorpio. He didn't sting me once. He was just boring. See? I actually just met a Scorpion for the first time. Not a Scorpio, but I did a video facing my fears.

And my biggest fear, being a Scorpio, is a scorpion. So I held it. It crawled. all around me. I was like, ooh, but it was fun watching me suffer. How'd you feel after? Just like with anything in life, once you go through it, it doesn't feel that scary. And that's what I tell people. The treatment for your fear is desensitization. So facing your fear, doing it, going through it, experiencing. And that's the crazy thing about anxiety, because anxiety is worried about the future, and you can't actually face it because it's all things that you can't touch.

So it's literally just fears in your head that you can't desensitize with unless you decide it's not true. Agreed? Good. We're on this. Easier said than done at times, but I agree. Oh, yeah, I definitely don't do it. But through therapy, I've learned what I should do, and I'm working on it. I like it. What gives you anxiety day-to-day? Because I imagine you're kind of a type A personality.

I'm not. I'm really lazy. I'm a homebody. I don't like doing anything. I don't like doing work. But when I enjoy it, suddenly, all of a sudden, I become, like, super focused, excited. I remember, like, when I would be cramming for tests in college in medical school, I would be the guy cramming, but still get good grades.

and everyone say, how would you do it? Do you take, like, Adderall, right? That's the common thing that everyone does. And I've never tried any drug in my life. Literally, never tried a drug in my life. I drink, but I don't do drugs. You're Russian. Of course you drink.

Well, you know, a little vodka here. So when I would study, for some reason, just like how I saw people take Adderall get in the zone, that's the same zone I would get into. It's like a natural high of excitement. Yes. If I tried studying five days before the test, I would be distracted. My mind's going, I'd be, ah, tomorrow I did that. You need some pressure.

That pressure made me focus. And that's what I feel in doing YouTube and all these social media platforms that if I let my foot off the pedal, I got someone else is going to catch up so I have to keep going. So you constantly have that pressure, which is good. Yeah. Pressure is a privilege. Well, it's so I just wanted to quote that. It's like one of those pendulum things where like you don't want it to swing too far in either direction. So my thought with pressure and critique and whatever negative emotion you want to say, all those things can be good.

We right now in society are so vilified. anyone going through any amount of bullying or any amount of hardship. All of those things build us as people. It's adversity. It's adversity. And there's a great book by Jonathan Haidt called The Coddling of the American Mind, where he literally talks about what's going on in college campuses, how there's too much of the safe zone mentality, microaggressions,

all these things happening where now we're raising this whole new population of narcissists where they have never been critiqued. And if someone were to critique them, like if they're in a social setting, You've been with the person who's yelling, obnoxious in the group, people will tell them like, hey man, come now, what are you doing? But that person now, because they're not used to getting critique, are saying, screw you, I don't know you,

you can't tell me, I'm special, this is who I am, you have to just like me for who I am. Well, no, you have to face some social pressures that are going to make you a better person and more likable. So there's a fine line there. Yeah, that's why I think sports is good. Put your kids in sports, because they get yelled at all the time. Oh, yeah, for sure.

Sports are great. So another funny thing that he mentions in the book is we're doing too much of the structured activities where they'll go to school their structure they go out of school there's two more activities that are also structured they never have time to just be alive and look around and be like look a tree look a cloud

and because of that lack of unstructured free play we get kids with anxiety who if the second that structure goes away from them panic sets it do you know there's kids that have like life career coaches in like middle school where their parents are like what's their trajectory what do they have to do to be a good kid what volunteering and when you live with such structure then when things don't go well you freak out i

recently like i'm going through a career transition and i stop for a second and i'm like let's embrace the messy let's embrace the beautiful messiness of my path and that's hard to do when you grew up i grew up as a tennis player with a regimented schedule but i'm trying to embrace the mess well embracing it is powerful that you can do that but why it's actually really beneficial to do that is If you're going to look back in the future on a moment like this, even if you're incredibly stressed, you have a lot of anxiety now. When you're going to look back on this, this is going to be what makes you smile later on. So you hear this from parents all the time that when their kids are in second grade,

they're like, oh, I have to get them ready and they're causing trouble, this. And then when they're 18, they're like, God, I wish they were in second grade again. I miss them. So you're going to look back on this and smile. It's true. I even have a friend who is babysitting still and she's older. And she's like, I can't believe that I have to babysit on top of all my work. but she's, like, creating a new business.

And I said, you know what's great about this? Because you're going to be doing a TED talk one day on being the best publicist in the world and saying, I had to babysit for one hour, 30 bucks just to keep my head above water. And you're going to inspire someone else who's doing the same thing. Yeah, look, nobody wants to hear that you had an easy life and, you know, you've been rich and everything's just great

and you're happy. I don't know, maybe if you're Paris Hilton or something, but not throwing any shade. People want to hear about your hardships. They want to hear about what makes you you. and going through those moments define you. You know, character is never built during, the state of your character is never built during relaxation.

It's during moments of stress that define who you are. So right now is that time where you have to shine and push on. Actually, for me, what I've experienced, speaking of my insecurities is the moments where things are going the best, I often find myself uncomfortable. And that's something I'm working on. Me too. That I need to.

You're like, what is going to fall? Yes, yes. And that's not a good way to live because then you're never really appreciating the good stuff and then you're only focused on the bad. It's funny because I've worked really hard on comfortable with being uncomfortable. But once everything's in line and you've got what you wanted, you're like, uh-oh. Yeah, it's something no one talks about, right? Being comfortable with being comfortable. Yeah, when you make a goal and you actually succeed. Yeah. It's easy to celebrate in the moment. But then like two days later, can you look back on it and say, look,

I've accomplished so much? Are you instantly filled with anxiety about, okay, what do I accomplish next? There needs to be, again, a balance. We're going to come back to that word a hundred times today. Me and you have had events in our lives that have been, you think is like great or that people want. And you don't change as a person. You're still the same person sitting on the subway, whether you have a million followers or zero. You're still dealing with the same voices in your head. And it's like you have to remember that no, hitting a goal is not going to change your mentality of how you live life. Yeah.

It's like that a study that was done that showed when you have a person earning, let's say, $100,000 versus a person earning $100,000, there's no difference in a level of happy. problems just change once your basic needs are met and I would say the same thing goes for social media if you have thousand followers difference between a million followers is still in how you handle everyday life I love that so I think they do say more money more problems that was a quote yeah Jay Z right I think it was biggie but it's okay I'm not gonna judge we're not judging maybe I got the 99 problems song in my head still okay we're getting a little darker that's okay what's your biggest fear oh besides I face my biggest fear.

Yeah, I told me. Oh, my God. That's such a cop out. Okay, no, I hate heights. I want an emotional fear. I hate heights. Okay, you hate heights. I hate failure.

Okay. I hate failure. The fear of failure motivates me. So the thing about fears, right, people automatically say if you have a fear that's something negative you have to get rid of. I think about it a little differently. I think if you have some sort of unique quality about yourself, you can use that to be your strength.

And that applies not only with fears. Like, for example, I would give talks at colleges, and students would say, well, I don't have many strengths that make me a good doctor. I'm like, well, give me a strength that you have. And they say, well, I'm funny, but that doesn't make me a good doctor. I'm like, well, wait, wait a second. What patients love to laugh, love to have a good time and need it the most when they're sick. And they answer like, oh, pediatric, so I should be a pediatrician. I'm like, no, everyone loves to laugh. Everyone loves to have a good time. So maybe you bring that lighthearted approach to medicine exactly what the world needs. That could be your medicine. So it's just about

understanding what your qualities are, where your strengths lie, even your weaknesses, and then making them work for you. I love that. Yeah. I want to transition to our first game. Oh, I love games. How many followers do you have, by the way? Where?

Instagram. Oh, Instagram, 3 million. Combined. 6.2. It's a lot of people. Okay. Name a photo on Instagram that you looked happy, but you actually weren't. Oh, there's so many of those.

Oh, well, this is going to be like talking a little shade with my. x we're taking a picture from this helicopter but in reality like our relationship is falling apart right here but we look like we're really happy so i was like oh we'll post this and maybe you can save the relationship everyone has those because you're losing the emotion but you still love the idea of it so you post it to like embrace the idea of it that you'd lost exactly it's usually with other people when you're posting that that happens yeah or when you're at a party you didn't even want to go to and it's miserable but you want to show people that you're going out and you're not at home sure well you know what's funny that people do a lot is I go to a lot of these events like

fashion events whatnot and you'll see people they look bored to tears they look so sad especially fashion they're all just like judging each other and then as soon as the iPhone comes out or Android whatever and they put on Snapchat or Instagram they're dancing they're outgoing they're laughing and I'm like you were just sad this whole event yeah I hate it I hate it you know whatever it's like a marketing thing as long as we're aware of it as soon as the air turns I pull out the soft blankets, light a spiced candle, and swap out bright summer decor for warm earthy tones. It's my little fall tradition, simple touches that make home feel extra cozy. Just like updating my space, I refresh my makeup for the season. Thrive Cosmetics makes

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That's Thrive Cosmetics, C-A-U-S-M-E-T-I-C-S dot com slash beauty. Who are you jealous of on Instagram besides me? You probably. I don't have a podcast. I'd like to have a podcast. When you walked in, I was like, why doesn't Dr. Mike have a podcast? Well, because, like, I'm doing 800 other things and being a doctor. You're so lazy.

It's incredible. I know. I told you that at the beginning of this interview. At least I'm honest about my flaws. But also, your face is, like, what people recognize you as. That's true. So. Well, it would be a podcast like Joe Rogan's out where it's on YouTube.

It's probably, like, someone that just doesn't care about anything. They're just chilling. I don't know. I'm like rapper. Are you ever jealous of people who just have like 200 followers and never have to post? I wouldn't say I'm jealous because I'm grateful for the success I've had. The one thing that I will say, which I never experienced before, never thought what happened, and it's kind of even weird complaining about it.

But I'm not a huge celebrity, but people do recognize me on the street here and there, especially when the demographics right. So you think about you go to an event, a bar, there's young girls there, 20s. That's like my demographic that follow me. And a lot of people come up to me. And I miss going out and not having to do that because I'm not good at being social. I'm actually kind of an introvert.

So when I go out and like this happened to me just the other day, I was at Ph.D. And some guy like goes to bump into me and says, excuse me. I'm like, oh, no worries. I go ahead. And he says, no, no, no, no, come here. And I lean in.

I'm like, yeah. He's like, the girl behind you wants you. And I'm like, ha ha, thanks. You know, like laugh it off. He's like, he taps me again. He's like, no, I'm serious. don't make me look stupid. I don't know what to say

because I'm trying to have a conversation there was a Forbes writer there. I'm trying to have an honest and that's happening. You might have a girlfriend. Sure, but I just I don't know how to handle that. I'm not good like that.

Again, I've never been taught how to handle this. I don't have a famous dad that can be like, oh, this is how you do it. Like, we came from Russia when I was six. I know you came from a family

that was extremely smart. Yeah. And then you guys moved here. Like, what did your parents do, mathematics my mom was a PhD in mathematics in Russia my father was a doctor in Russia he became a doctor here again so he did medical school twice incredible residency twice it's like incredible I don't know what would I have to do to move to like China for example learn the language go to medical school I don't know like how bad does it must be what does he think about your social media

does he understand it he didn't in the beginning had no idea but he saw my confidence and I rarely was confident of anything that he was like okay like you do you what do you mean you really were confident well like to him in saying something like to stand up to him when he would say oh why are you wasting your time with something like okay dad like you're the king yeah yeah you respect your elders yeah so here i was like dude you have no idea what you're asking me trust me let this happen he would be like wow you never said that to me before so let's see what happens it's funny my dad would yell at me for like being on my phone and i'm like dad do you know that i just posted a tweet that got like 10 000 likes and he's like is it funny and i show him

and then he's like this kind of funny and then he started like yeah And then he'd, like, text me and be like, I like your last tweet. And it's just, like, generations educating each other and learning. Yeah, look, every generation is going to be different. I honestly, I'm not an old guy. I'm 29, but I feel like I'm disconnected already. I know, you're a baby. I'm disconnected.

I put on Spotify top 50, like top trucks because I'm lazy in my car. And the music is just awful. Little oozy. Yeah, I look at the names, Mo Bamba. I'm like, I don't know. I feel like I'm 95. And I've aged out of the generation so hard that I, can't connect to it at all it's sad because i like i love m&m i love jz connie like i love listening to

but i think late 20s is when you start losing touch with the cool kids like because high school is where stuff's like getting i feel the same way i'm a grandma so i don't know like i miss my uh alicia keys and oh yeah all like my 90s brittney spears yes yes through instagram you are you on it a lot yeah during the day do you know how many hours not a lot like i i go on quick spurts check what's good that's healthy i have an addiction i'm working out now that i'm conscious of it though i'll put my phone down and i'll like consciously when i want to go for it say let's wait a little that's good at the catching yourself and then acting upon that that's huge on the impulse do you have any advice for other people who find themselves like loving the dopamine hit and just like

can't stop especially if you start getting more followers it really starts hitting you it's like it's like if every time you check you're getting like more followers you you're gonna i'm a crackhead So personal advice, I went through it, and I turned into a huge, like, narcissistic asshole and wanted to show all my friends, like, how many likes I got? Look at this girl, what she said to me. Look at this. And I was like, what's wrong with me? That's why when I deleted my account and wanted to, like, figure out what was wrong with my life. Self-diagnosing.

What do I tell people? Like, for example, parents when they come in because family medicine, I treat kids. And one of my main questions that I ask is how much time do you spend a day on the computer or your phone where you're not doing school work? And most of them lie, a huge amount lie. But the rule is what we've seen is if they spend more than two hours a day outside of school work and stuff, they have serious repercussions from that. Two hours is not a lot. The problem is what you're giving up when you spend more than two hours, you give up face time, not the app. And socialization.

Yeah, like actually interacting with somebody. That's why bullying online is so much different. So first of all, bullying back in the day used to get bullied at school, come home and be fine. Now it comes home with you, number one. Then number two, the bullying used to be a little bit. different in the sense that it used to be more physical now it's more mental which makes sense why the anxiety and suicide rates and all these things are going up more for females than males because males tend to bully each other more physically beat each other up and stuff but females it's more

you know mind mental games and stuff like that so it truly mental mental terrorist you said that not me I like to say mental gymnastics instead of mental that's more positive yeah exactly but with Instagram you get so many different I like to say say energy is being thrown at you? Is there anything specific that you see on Instagram that triggers you to feel depressed? Depressed, not really. Depress is a strong word. No, maybe because I grew out of it. It doesn't make me sad. Probably, I mean, if you're coming out of a relationship or something and you're seeing what your ex is up to, that never makes you feel good, no matter who you are. Not great. But I guess the thing. The mute button is incredible. Yes. That's the nighttime

sleeping secret weapon right now. Yeah. Yeah. The thing that I forgot to mention about, bullying is in, let's say 30 years ago, if you bullied someone and you punched them and they cried, you witnessed that, humanity inside of you made you not feel good. That's such a good point. You troll on someone's Instagram. There's no feedback. So you never know how they feel. So you can just keep doing it without every feeling.

And you didn't get that like reaction you wanted yet if you're a bully. And then people talk to you about your comment or they like it or whatever it is. So it feeds the dopamine beast. When you're bullied, you see who saw. But on Instagram, you don't even know how many eyes witnessed your abuse. You survived in Stomocity, but we still have one more. Oh, okay. Seven Deadly Sins.

First question. What are you greedy about? Love. Can you extrapolate on that? Do I have to explain it? I thought this is like one of those rapid fire games where I just say the first thing that comes. Dr. Mike, I did not say rapid fire. I did not say rapid fire.

my apologies. I, let's say I'm in a relationship or with my friends. I always want to make sure that there is no distrust going on, that these people are loyal to me because I'm like that. And I feel like when I give so much of myself, I want to hog all that love back. But it's hard to control other people's emotions. Yeah, it's impossible. So does that cause some anxiety with you? Um, yeah, sure. That's fair to say. But you know what? I like the purpose. I feel beloved. Who are you envious of? Again, besides me. He's obsessed.

Not a little Wayne. You love rappers. Oh, Will Smith. Oh, he is. This dude's just killing it. It doesn't matter what he does. He's like, I'll just jump out of a helicopter and make millions. I'll go and make the best show of the 90s that everyone's going to reference for the rest of their lives.

He reinvents himself in so many ways and is so relevant to every generation. He made the Miami song. Welcome to Miami. He's the man, Big Willie style. Do you want to be kind of a mold? multifaceted type of talent. I want to be Will Smith. Okay.

We're the same height, not the same build. I want more muscle. Would you have an open relationship like him and Jada? No, that's, I can't do that. Yeah, because you're greedy with love. See? Yeah. It's true, but it's good.

It's good. Is that true, by the way? I don't know if that was ever confirmed. I don't know. I felt like there was rumors and then they were like, no, no, no, that's not what we do. I think it was confirmed, but I don't want to be the reason. But I support all forms of love. Okay.

What do you gluttonous about? cookies and cream milkshakes that's my no joke I'll order two at a time deliver to my house why too because it's not enough

I love them no seriously like if I could just go not and there's a place by my house called schmackeries ooh yes it's basically like warm cookies that they break up

and put into vanilla ice cream it's just crack it's crack but you're primarily pretty healthy I mean within reason you're not like I cheat.

You cheat, good. Not in love. Not in love. What was the last time you experienced extreme wrath? Is that like anger? Yep. I'm an immigrant, so I'm not great with some words. Do you get angry a lot?

Not really. But when I do, I get really angry because most of my friends haven't even really seen me. Honestly, it happens when there's some sort of betrayal and not even betrayal towards me. Like if someone, like, bothers my friends or even something like that. Actually, I got into a huge fight. This is a little while ago. That's probably like five years. years ago. I was in a dream, whatever. What's that place in me packing the hotel that has

multiple stories? Gensivort, Midtown. I was in Gensvort, Midtown, and someone was bothering this girl that I was with, but she wasn't my date or anything. And she asked me to tell him to stop, and I told them, and then two guys approached me. One guy hit me, so then I knocked one guy out, and I didn't realize they were there with like 15 people. They all jumped me. And the crazy thing about that story is not to go completely off on a tangent, but there was a was my friend was out and he was like flashing cash and he hired a bodyguard six foot nine mma fighter like this his hand is bigger than my whole body and guess what that was the time this i've never been out with a bodyguard this one time in my life that i get into a fight with 12 people

he took his girlfriend to the bathroom escorted her so i was left alone to fight off 12 dudes was a really what happened nothing really like i kept them off until security came and all that but okay good i was really angry then you got some street cred for me just now my I'm impressed. It was like popping out of my head. Yeah. That happens. Yeah.

What time were you a sloth besides when you're eating your? Crazy meat shakes. If I'm not on camera, if I'm not in the hospital, I'm a sloth. But I feel like that's like 50% for me. No, but I'm the same way like I'm an introvert, extrovert, like I'm on and then I need to be off to refuel. And you have two dogs. You guys must cuddle.

Yeah. Well, I live with one of my dogs and he, unfortunately, is incredibly hot all the time. He's a bear. Yeah, he's a bear. So he will come. up to me cuddle for a minute and then he's like I'm out I'm going on the kitchen tile bathroom tile whatever it is has he changed since his Instagram fame yes total narcissistic that's why he won't cuddle with me this guy's like I don't need you see I got a cat and I'm like I want her to live a normal

cat life yeah I want her to know what it's like to not be recognized and I've responded DMs do what I did delete her Instagram let her see what that feels like you're right you're gonna be a good dad I think so a good dog you'll be the the bad cop of the of the parents I will delete your shit Shit. This is a tough one, but you're smart. When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something? Such a good question. I know it really gets everyone. I should warm people beforehand.

No, that's not fun then. I like that attitude. Like, you should have told me. I'm like, maybe you should come with fucking ideas. Maybe you should come with life stories. I don't know. I tried to make sure that doesn't happen. But you know what?

Also, our memories are really imperfect in the sense that it deletes these things. Oh, I have a good one. so my sister and I had a little bit of a falling out like a while ago really a long time ago and we didn't talk for a long time and after like a few years went by we really should have started talking because like I wanted to see my nephews and hang out with them and we started hang out now and everything's fine but it was my ego that was holding me back or not an ego so much but you know pride that it was like I don't it wasn't me who was wrong so why am I going to reach out but in life like sometimes you just need to understand that other people are not going

do that for you and if you want to live a fulfilling life you have to take the first step yeah like realistically your relationship with your family is more important than like if you were right them wrong with like a certain disagreement you've won more you're doing well okay do I get a million dollars just like who wants I did who wants to be a millionaire by the way and I lost it's really embarrassing I feel like most people do though I got $10,000 for stand-up not stand-up to cancer are you nervous when I'm nervous I like can't form a sentence so I can imagine they'd be like what letter does banana start with and I'd be like hey no no No, they were literally like, what fish was in finding Nemo?

And I'm like, oh, come. What was the name of the fish in finding blank? And so they tell you, this is kind of like an Easter egg, before you go on the show, they say that, you know, to slow down the easy questions, don't just rush to give an answer. They're like, read all the choices on camera so we have time and we can fill the space. So you're reading you, like, what was the main fish in Disney's Finding Dash? And I'm like, Nemo, Bailey, Chimmy Churry steak. I'm like, ah, this is a tough one.

Nemo, A, like, final answer? I'm like, wait, is it Chimmy Churry? Yeah, okay, let's go. And then you're like, I love Chimitory. Audience, did we like Chimitory? Oh my God, the audience let me down, actually. I'm kind of pissed about that. They got their thing wrong?

Yeah, the one I asked. Did you do it? Who was the post? Chris Harrison. Chris Harrison? Oh, sorry. Chris Hanson actually is the guy that does how to catch a predator. or something.

That's what I stop. Chris Harrison's probably looking at you as Bachelor material. Don't go on it. Please don't. He said something to me about that. Don't do it. That's not me. Yeah, I didn't think so.

So, final question. When was the last time you lusted over someone besides me? In what movie was it? We're about to find out... Wolf of Wall Street. What's her name? Yes. And then also in focus, the Will Smith movie?

Why do you think I'm jealous of Will Smith? The thing is... This is it. This is all coming to... Firstly, I have two things. We started with Will Smith and now we're back at Will Smith with the final one. First of all, I thought you liked brunettes. Okay.

I have no type. I've dated everyone in it. That was disappointing. I mean, all females, but... So to wrap this up, what do you do to cope with your hell? What's something you want people to take away from this? I go over my hell. all the time and understand that as humans we're all going to go through hell and as long as we

take something away from that hell and learn something from it you're going to get better and the hell is going to get a little bit easier i love that dr mike thanks for coming to hell with me thank you so much