Berner Phone - Gianmarco Soresi: Kicked Out Of Starbucks & Smelling JLo

Episode Date: April 21, 2022

Gianmarco Soresi is a hilarious comic, actor, and writer who opens up about his sleep problems, breakdowns at Starbucks, and what it was actually like to be on set with Jennifer Lopez. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Burning Hell Also, when I'm looking at my phone, I'm not, like, sexting. I have notes. They'd be crazy if that's what I thought. Are you a big sextor? I can when I was, like, in long distance and in puppy dog phase. I'm a zero-sexter.

That's not my jam. What happened to? to you at a younger age. You know what happened? I'll tell you what happened. I used to be on AIM and I would like I met someone, I was like 13, met someone on a chat room, who knows what it was and we were like sexting. And I mean really clunky. Yes. Like I remember once around the holidays, I just remember at one point just like her saying something about like, oh my candy, putting the candy can on my. If it was a her.

Let's see. Yeah. But then one day I logged on and there was another account. My account was Mamma Mia A2O Because I saw Mama Mia on Broadway And I had a great time And the account was like Do you accept a message from fuck Mama Mia A2O? And I was like, oh, what's this? And it was like, I'm the brother of this

The person you've been sexting And if I ever hear from him, I'm going to fucking kill you And I like close the laptop And I remember I was 13 years old Just my heart like You know when you close the laptop and you're like Did that make it go away? Is this world over?

Is that person gone? and I don't know if that's the reason but I do have a suspicion that something about that made me go you know what sexting is you're like and I haven't been able to come since so no but that kind of stuff traumatizes you

you're gonna say what do you say I don't talk like with sexting like I'm not I'm not cock I don't say cock and penis is too clinical dick dick is too cat I don't know what like it's a creative journey it's not a science and I always say with sexting it's about

the adjectives about it's about the fill in words you have to write like you're writing an essay that has to hit a certain amount of words if you're just like I want you I want to touch your dick no you want to touch what kind of dick how how big how pulsating how whatever do you do tell your fiance I'd like a dick that's slightly different than yours I think describe the dick you want but you manifest the dick you want the dick you have how long the things are you writing you're writing like I want it's just a script you just have to be very distinct descriptive like even my hand like the kind of like my soft hand on your hard pulsating whatever like that's what it is oh my gosh it's not about cocker or schlong shlong that's what i would say but shlong's too

funny but i do have to say i have that with watching porn with my fiancee we can't watch it because we just start laughing really yeah we tried recently first my girlfriend said you know you wanted me to search so i did my usual search was women who look like my girlfriend's friend and then I gave it to her and then like three hours later she had narrowed it down to like five categories I was like honey it's getting late we need to pick this the picking is hard because I also was like you go but then you're going to get jealous then he's like whatever you want and then I'm feeling like he's going to judge me for what I want and then we click something random and just started laughing and I was like I can't fucking do this but anyway we have a very special

guest done today you're so perfect for this for many reasons It's amazing it took you so long to have me then. It is. But I mean, I was waiting for your TikTok to get a little bigger. And I know, I'm just kidding. No. But I have noticed. We know the game.

You have great momentum right now. And I felt like our, the devil has aligned you to sit here today. John Marco Saraci. Hello. Did I say it right? Writing a little theater flare. I know. You did.

I did. I did spirit fingers. You're Italian. I'm half Sicilian. Half Sicilian, too, somewhere in there. You're half something too. I don't know if I'm half. Okay.

I don't know how Italian I am. My dad raised me to think I was 100%. What's with, even if you're like 5% Italian, you love being Italian. Like I told everyone I was full Italian when I was young. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what we do. That's why San Sage. My dad's a quarter Italian, which makes me 100% of 10.

That's the back of it. It's so fucking funny. But I want to get some hot goss just initially because you are one of the hardest working and funniest comedians out there, in my opinion. IMO, and I'm not just trying to suck up to you because you have done so many things from acting to voiceover to writing blah blah blah and also when i see you at certain clubs other comics are talking about dick jokes and you're literally on your laptop who knows putting together a script who knows something more important you're at the porn search for that night from you're never

doing actual work on your laptop you're just like how to talk to other comedians but i want to know the hot goss you starred in hustlers start start start i my role was man in glasses you had lines and a full I had a line. You had a line, and it was a good one. You were one of the guys that got drugged by Jennifer Lopez? No, I said, no. They were trying to drug me. And I said, my line was, I'm sorry, I have an early morning, which.

Did she not drag you out at the end? No, she tried to give me a shot. And I was like, I'm sorry, I have an early morning. And then I left the bar. Okay. Which no way. I love how there's so much motive behind your character. Why did he do that?

What was happening in his life? Oh, I had it all. I had like my whole, like, I mean, I was my, It was made of glasses. So I was like, I got to go on my laptop and work on stand up. Yes. That's what was going through my head. Perfect.

And you were great in it. I initially was like, oh, my God, it's my friend. But this was like a blockbuster. This was like one of the biggest movies at the time. What was it like getting the role, filming it? What was Jennifer Lopez like? Give us the tea. I mean, it was no callback, one audition.

So it was like, I found out like two months after I audition. So I was in a Starbucks by the grizzly pair at that, the time. And I didn't know how big it was going to be, but I guess J-Lo was very exciting. And it was one of those that called me at 10 a.m. I don't think we shot until 1.13 a.m. In the next, you know, the next day. Shut the fuck up. Everyone was tired. People were getting cranky. And I think, like, J-Lo had to do a lot of costume changes that day. So people were nervous. She's such a big star. Yes.

Everyone just doesn't want to upset her. But she was nice. She came in. She, like, sat. stood right next to me her thigh was pushing up against my thigh i didn't know if it was like it was cramped or she was like doing the character like she was like kind of flirting with me maybe trying to fuck me this was pre pre ben affleck yeah and um after like 30 minutes there was that awkward thing with like super famous people where she's like hi i'm jennifer and i pretend like jennifer you said i'm john marco with a jay was it jennifer and uh and then we did like two takes it happened so fast you all i wanted was someone to say hey good job that's all i wanted was someone to be like you got it yeah but no one said anything to me i was just excused and i was praying i didn't get cut

i mean that is a line that could get cut easily yeah and i brought a date to watch the movie i went on a first date and we went to night hawk so you don't know till you see it you're you don't get message like hey you're good it was no i didn't i didn't know if i was in it and i just it was very corny to bring a date to a movie that I'm in. But it's very brief. And I thought it would be cool. I don't think it was. I think she found it quite lame.

I, so, but I was in it. I was in it. I've done it a couple times on a plane. Someone's been next to me watching hustlers. And I went like, right as it happened. I was like, hey, but I'm wearing the masks. They're like, what are you doing? And then I take up the mask.

I'm like, and then the airline attends, like, put the mask back on. And I'm like, oh, I'm just trying to get kicked off. Of the plane. Oh, my gosh. So J.Lo has a powerful big dick energy to her. Yes. She's just a star. I mean, you can't tell whether you're putting it on the person.

Yeah. But when she walked in the room, I mean, she's just, like, stunning. Yeah. And she's a woman. Yeah. And she's tall. And she was wearing a great outfit. And it was quite a thing.

Yeah. And she was, like, all over you in the scene, which is. Yeah. And I had to say no. I kept trying to improvise Like what if we rewrote And I went home with them Oh my God

Well So right now Where is your focus In terms of content creation Because unfortunately You're one of those people That are talented In a wide array of things

From acting to musical theater To comedy to writing You don't want to half-ass 100 things So where is your focus right now? The singing is dead I've been booked to sing three times in my whole life since I graduated

for musical theater and they've all been for my grandparents' funeral and it's sad because it means I only have one concert left and it's my farewell tour and it's your mom

that keeps booking you yeah yeah yeah she says I'm a nice reminder this thing's worse than death so singing is done you're killing it no pun intended

I'm focusing on stand-up I want to be great at something that's all I want that's all I've ever wanted at first I was it was musical theater I was going to be I was like I'm going to be the greatest singer. I'm going to be as good as

Pavarotti. I mean, in my head, in my head, I was like as good as Pavarotti, even though I didn't really like opera. And then I used to sing I sing like three hours a day. Like, not even in a good way. Over training. We've talked about this. You did sports. I did singing. And I would spend three hours a day in college in a practice room. And I hit like my biological limit. The same way people

hit their limit in like sports. There's a limit of like I keep referencing our podcast, the downside. Oh yeah. I was on the downside. Please listen. It was an epic episode. We're talking about sports. I think we're both like, we're both ambitious people and was singing. I was like, I'm going to be the greatest singer. And then that kind of went away.

I became, I'm going to be the greatest actor. And I don't think I have the talent. And then I finally hit stand-up. And it was just one of those areas. I'm like, oh, I think I can be great at this. And I don't know if it's just another thing I'm going to fail out in a couple of years and then move on. But I think stand-up's the thing. But I also think that your experience in musical theater and acting has made you into kind of

this special stand-up that you are. And you also had a pretty cool, like, New York City accomplishment in stand-up where you got passed at the comedy cellar. I'm a pass at the comedy seller. And, yeah, you know, the moment you get past, all you're nervous about is, am I ever going to get spots there again? Well, I heard the most nerve-wracking moment is, like, the first three weeks after you get passed.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, that's what they say. And then you get to the fourth week, and you go, oh, this is just as bad as the first three. And so, you know, it goes in waves. Now I think the only solution to the anxiety of being overly dependent on these places is immediately the moment you get somewhere trying to be too busy for that thing. So now I'm like, oh, I want to be busy on the road, headlining so much so that the sellers, oh, sure, if I'm around. And I think that helps sometimes. It also prevents you from ever enjoying anyone accomplishment.

That is kind of my fucked up situation where, you know, sometimes you can't stop. obsessing over something that's pissing you off or you're upset about, the only way I can ever move on is to get upset about something else. Yes. Because your brain is stimulated by negative emotions. So you just, it's like when you can't get over an X, find someone new that you can't get over, and you'll get over that other X. So that was toxic advice that we're just thrown out on the pod. But you got to, I don't know, I'm trying to deal with, I have bad envy. I have bad envy. And I realized recently, especially getting past the cellar, where it was like, I'm on more and more shows where, I mean, this is

arrogant to say, where I'm not going to be the best one on the show or everyone on the show is a killer. And I realize I have to figure out a way to respond to seeing good comedians other than, oh, I'm everything I've ever done is worthless. My jokes are terrible.

I have to fix it. And that is a very black and white way of thinking from like, I'm the greatest to being like, I'm the worst who ever did stand up. Yeah, yeah. And I realized, I thought about my favorite comedians whether it be like jesslinick or john milaney and i was like oh well they're on lineups where everyone's amazing and they're still amazing it's like you have to talk to yourself

like a child to work through childish emotions reparent yourself what would you want a good parent to say for the first time dear god but i also think what i always tell myself because i have a weird like false sense of confidence even in situations that i shouldn't where i'm very like well i'm me and i think Especially, I think you have a very specific voice on stage that is unique. So it's like, yeah, some people might like that color sweater, but it's not my color sweater. Yes, yes. I don't know why I went to fashion, but. You have false confidence?

I am, like, I joke like I have reversed biodysmorphia. I think everyone wants to fuck me. Like, I am overconfident in some, but I'm like very underconfident in other situations. but like first time I did stand up was like in front of 300 people I did 10 minutes which like that's just not okay sure but like no one told me not to so I was just like yeah but you but I feel like you like respect you know obviously you've had this like jump you're headlining these clubs but I feel like I see you doing shitty shows with me and like that's the sign of the thing we've bombed on the same show yeah it's like are you

willing to do. We just saw this thing with T.I. at the Barclay Center. I don't know if you're trying to get him on the pod. Did you see this? No. So T.I. He's the rapper. Yes.

He's been getting into stand-up. Wait. We'll continue. Oh, yeah. So he's been going on up in L.A. And of course, because he's T.I. He goes up at the comedy store. And he's like blowing the light like crazy.

Someone got this picture where someone snuck behind the curtain to like grab at him. Like, please get off stage. Because he was going 20 minutes over. Yeah. And he's not like Chris Rock. yeah it's it's not like that like that's that's that's chris rock that's the highest level like the audience loves that chris rock is doing an hour on a wednesday night show yeah and even at the comedy store like everyone in the main room are stars so so ti was doing that he did some open mics he got some kind

of tussle some comedian made fun of him for or said address the sexual abuse allegations against him and he snapped at them but bottom line he recently performed at the barclay center on like a big show show and he got booed and he got booed because it was bad he was in lae people were laughing he's famous blah blah blah and then barclays they booed and it was just beautiful is this beautiful to see someone get their comeuppance that is amazing and yes you're right there's a difference i think i very early on was have a lot of friends had a lot of friends in stand-up who told me like if you want to get into this like we actually believe that you have like a natural skill but you need to fucking grind you need to i was told once never say no to a show and i've like lived my life by

that unless i'm like traveling i will always say yes to a show good good and i've i feel like i have that confidence where i'm like if i put in the work in this particular thing in my life i believe in myself where there's other things similar to how you're talking about singing like tennis i would train insane amounts and i would still not believe in myself on the court and i feel it's kind of just the universe being like some things you're meant to do well that's why i think comedy's strictly because like you perform sometimes for shows where maybe no one knows you and then you perform on the road you might have a lot of fans there and it's like that's got to be tough because it would be like if you played tennis and sometimes you played against a fan who let you win it's like how do you

know it better how to get it's tough well that's why like during the week i am doing all the small shows and that's when you know jokes that other people were laughing at aren't hitting with this audience and you go, they're not a bad audience. They're actually just like, that's where the weakness is. This is why I've avoided having any kind of fans. Yes. And I plan to keep on that so I can keep the comedy strong. But also, sometimes it's weird when you go on stage.

The first couple minutes are kind of just staring at you. And they're not like consuming it. They're just like, oh, that's the girl we saw on a TV. So it gets awkward. And then, like, it's an hour. Like, people aren't going to suck my dick for a whole hour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Dick's sucking for an hour is exhausting.

So I kind of, and I also. have that kind of chip on my shoulder where I'm like it's easy for people to be like oh well she has followers so she's getting people so I have that chip in my shoulder where it's like I want to actually be fucking good at this good um which is my own my own issues yeah um that I'm working through but I also think with you you've been taking advantage of social media and recently blown up because it's you're not like you didn't discover something new to make you like way funnier and comedy. This year, you've been popping off on TikTok. Have you enjoyed being on social media? It's a little exhausting now, but it's paying the bills. Facebook, Facebook, Snapchat, even,

YouTube. I think, I think what benefited me is I wrote a lot. So I had a big backlog of very pure jokes. So when quarantine hit, I didn't invent the TikTok style of just front facing, say a joke with the captions, but I had a wealth of jokes to do that I'm still getting through. Yes. And so those started popping off. And then I started realizing as Instagram came out with Reels and Facebook and Snapchat and YouTube shorts, that it was like I thought, I realized, you know how Seinfeld went to Hulu?

They made $500 million. And I went to Netflix. I was like, oh, this is my content library. And I can just, every time there's a new platform, I can just move this to that platform. I don't have to do anything. And I just get to get all the spoils of a new audience. But it's also like, that's work you had put in that you didn't really know what to do yet, or you thought it was just like, I'm just writing to write.

Like, it's like, I had six years of tweets that I started to look through them. And I was like, that's a TikTok. I just went through, this is so great. Wait, your tweets are so fucking funny. I went through a full. I went through all of them. I downloaded, like, the archive. And it took months to get through this fucking thing.

And you canceled yourself a couple times. Cancel myself a couple times. I don't have too many. My tweets are more embarrassing of like my actor days but I was very sincere and I was like a lot of like

come see my fringe play and how amazing things are I was so sincere There is a joke with the actor community where actors are like they do that you know breath in They breathe

That's how that's how cruel comedians are Actors always with In and out and in and out It's like we get it You fucking act But they go And they're like

I'm going to be a star Where I feel like Comics are like Oh that was fucking horrible even if they like murder. How have you navigated the mindset of sometimes actors like kind of believing they're all that and they just haven't gotten the right shot to comics

who think they all suck and they're trying their best? We're allergic to sincerity, which makes it challenging because obviously we love it. We don't want to feel real feelings where actors are all about feelings. Absolutely. But comics, they're willing to put themselves through one of the worst lives ever. So they do love it. And sometimes you see,

people hating on comedy and I hate out of two where you're like but you love this thing you're lying it's all you have it's all you have and comedians will always shit on actors yes and then they will drop their whole stand-up career the moment they get a shitty small role in a sitcom and they'll be awful at it because they don't know how to act comedians love dismissing good acting like comedians aren't notoriously for being some of the worst actors or they'll be like I act every night I'm on stage yeah yeah okay sure sure but I love that you break the mold you have everyone has to follow him on Twitter like my fiance and I send your tweets to each other because we're both comics and you have some very niche comedy jokes that people they will do well but like the masses are not appreciated

I know you said oh my god after the Jill Waita the um Will Jada thing you were like canceling my roast battle with Jada Pickett Smith I cried I cried out loud Thank you. Are you ever afraid, though, that you're too niche?

Or you made, like, some JFL joke. I made a JFL joke. No, I think you have to do a couple niche. But yes, there is a shift where you're like, oh, I need to stop posting to. Yeah, that's not my audience. Yeah. My friends have never paid to see me. Not once.

You're like, they're not, Mike at one repost for my friend Bob, who he's not doing well, you know? So, like, that is definitely a shift in approach. Uh-huh. Because you want comedians to like you. What do they say about the great comic stories? Like, oh, they're the comedians, comedians, comedians. Comics, comics. But a lot of comics comics are not the ones making the most money.

That's true. That's true. Which is part of being an artist, you know? But I think it's fine to have a little niche here and there. I'm obsessed with it. Yeah, it's fun. What is your level of anxiety and depression? How are we?

What's going on? It's gotten better. I've never taken anti-depri-I. I tried Lexa Pro. I have depression and anxiety Yes Bad sleep problems Terrible sleep

I feel like that's kind of your look That's kind of a look Yeah yeah I get a lot of comments Like are you okay I get all these comments all the time I'm like I don't know what's yeah I'm tired That's not helping for sure Tired and disheveled is kind of your vibe

I feel like yes I've embraced that And it's tough because my girlfriend has these night terrors Now and so it's like Sleep is just a nightmare Or you just you just decide we don't sleep well and that's our thing like you're yelling I'm in my head

we do it together yeah you didn't get a good night's sleep huh I'm like yeah she was screaming all night she thought a murderer was under the bed and then I had anxiety about my career for three hours I take Ambien sometimes I take Ambien which is lovely Do you ever tweet on Ambien

No I don't have that that like stay awake You might have to be a little drunk to dude I had a friend during the Facebook days who like in the morning we'd be like she was on Ambien last night on Facebook and we need to do some damage control like just saying random shit to people I'm always terrified that I'm going to die in my sleep

so I take very little amounts What is there a better way to die Than in your sleep? Yeah Is that how you want to die? Maybe Sometimes the onstage death sounds pretty cool Oh like while you're performing

Yeah Yeah I there was this one comic Heather Heather she you watched her faint on TV I mean on a video oh she passes out falls backwards she faints and like hit hit her head and it was like so scary and my OCD was like don't see this yeah see this I'm scared of it don't see it um I would like it to be I finish standing ovation I jump to do a crowd surf and as I leap in the air die and so they're just carrying my dead body

for like a long time and inside they're like when is he going to tell us like you know bring you back to the stage but no so yes i would like my corpse to be crowd surfed and to die that way have you ever crowd surfed no it's very cool i think it's time for women i think it's time for women because every guy's like gets a little handsy people just big guy and you buy your tits and oh god yeah i was i watched a documentary speaking of on a flight of um what was that one of these old festivals where they're just like the women everyone was assaulted the whole festival sure because everyone's drunk then they're just carrying you around and it's it's a scary time out here so uh depression anxiety uh i'm always like i'm always keeping my ear to the ground do i need uh antidepressants

but i'm doing okay the problems i'm very functional i might be very depressed but like i'm always i'm never not going to go to the gym i'm never not going to like i'm not going to like i'm not going to sit on the couch something in me goes like you got to do so even though you have no sleep you'll be able to get up yeah oh so you that anxiety is getting you is keeps me go I mean you're very fit you're very fit you almost look like a cross country star really oh thank yeah I can't run for shit or like one of those guys that jump over the the beam oh yes I like that it's a catholic a decathlet a decathlet that was very it's a thing I believe you you know the athletics I I've never been athletic.

It was later in life I got in shape. That's good. What happened, I did P90X in college, which was great. But then I started, like, losing it a little bit. And then I had my roommate, a gay friend of mine, I went to college with. I walk around in my underwear a lot. I'm like a borderline nudist in that way. The second you get home, you have to strip.

And I, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I'm definitely, God. And once I have curtains, no more, no more clothes. And my roommate, I said to him, I don't know why. I may have like, maybe there was a video or something, but I said to him, I said, I'm in good shape, right? And he couldn't respond. And I went to my room and I cried and cried. And I'm like, this is like 23.

And then he came in and he was like, listen, you're not in bad shape. It's just that, you know, if, I mean, he felt, and I don't think he was being cruel. I think he was being a good friend. he was he was like if you think you're in like good shape you're not not which is fine but but just here's the reality compared to what you think is going on like i do barry's boot camp where there's a lot of gay guys who are in amazing shape yes and it's kind of funny because like i didn't bully gay people in high school but i imagine they were bullied in high school and now they get to bully all these out of shape and straight guys like run faster you're just like ew but you see i mean i cannot get over when you see these pictures from fire island and it's like 50 of the same gay guy abercrombie and fish models because i'm like i'm like what happens if you

put out a little wait do they say hey you're not invited this weekend anymore there's a lot of pressure and no one wants to fuck you anymore but i mean i guess there are some guys that are attracted to like bigger guys or thin guys that is that is there but i do know that i feel like the bar is so for a straight guy to be considered hot in the straight community. Sure, sure. So from a gay man's gaze, you were subpar,

but for a girl, they probably were like, he's, he's hot. Sure, and thank God. And you're tall. You're tall, you don't have to do shit. You don't even have to have a personality. I don't know if that's 100% true. I've been saying, I think like,

first of all, I like never really hit on women. I'm not very, I'm very shy in that way. And the women who would hit on me, like outright, would be the tallest women you've ever seen and I should have been a WNBA recruiter because I'd walk around

and the tallest women would see me like finally, finally a tall man and so every time I went out you'd see me and like three tall women hitting on me with mosquitoes to a light yeah someone from Guinness World Records

seeing which one was the tallest but and that's never been like I've never been I was going to say tall queen I've never been like oh I want a tall Some guys are, you know how they say men are either like Legs guy, Buck guy or Boob's guy

I don't know it's offensive to minimize men like that But I I've never Like my dad's a legs Like he talks about legs Yeah He's like well she's got legs for days Because that's how you have to measure

legs and days Sounds like a deformity be like Oh my gosh he's got legs for feet Oh my God that's so funny Okay wait But you're in a relationship now I am. I am. So I'm a girlfriend. How did you approach her?

Once again, like this is, this is like, where it wasn't like an outgoing thing. It was like it was COVID. I moved to the Lower East side. She happened to move around the corner. And I went to her place. We had a mutual friend. She was giving away shit that the last apartment owner had left behind. And so I took it. And then we were just in the COVID. We love an estate sale. Yeah, yeah.

we were just in the COVID like bubble every night we're hanging out to watch movies very horny yeah and then like a lot of like sitting next to each other and like one of those things like do she know her foot's on my dick and you're like yeah probably probably she's conscious

of that oh that's hot flirting I used to do that with an old roommate we'd be like watching something I'd like put my head on his shoulder but straight guys are stupid so they're kind of like oh she's really tired I once was on a date whereas like it was clear it was clear this date was was to have sex yeah and i remember like after the whole dinner and drinks i put my

hand on her leg and she was like finally and i was like oh my god that's how mad i am at this and she was like jesus christ god because she doesn't want to force you that's that but that was my my i would be like all right the knee we're three knees that she moves like that's that's that's that's what i only over analyzing i was slow slow slow slow slow slow slow slow slow so you basically were like do you want to lose a lot of nights asleep with me and she was like yes absolutely she was the one i mean her night tears that used to be so much worse really we have an app that records them well she was mugged at uh she got night tears out she was mugged at knife point which is how we met and uh that's just joke but uh she she she was mugged she fought she fought

the mugger off she got her phone back the mugger took her phone she chased after him got the phone back went off and uh i think it's a new york thing she doesn't have night terrors on the plane if she's sleeping we were just in memphis with her family didn't really have night terrors then so i think it's related to like new york and she'll wake up and like sometimes it's uh emergency like she'll be like oh what was that what was that but then sometimes she wakes up and she says like shit about me like just mean stuff about me like complaining like i didn't listen to her or I told you or we're late because of this. It's coming from her subconscious.

So she's not conscious in it. Oh, so it's like she's drunk and telling you her innermost feelings. But her eyes will open so she'll be like, I fucking told you. Fuck. Fuck. Wow, that's really good. And I just sit there and I just watch it because she's not going to remember it. And I just kind of watch it.

I'm like, yeah, I know, baby. It's okay. It's okay. She'll get scared about her glasses. She's woken up where like she's so scared she can't see without her glasses. So she like wakes up and she's like hidden her glasses in her panties because she's like scared someone would take it. Yeah. So just all sorts of weird.

It's basically whatever you're dreaming. She's almost like doing it because like we all have dreams where you're like frustrated with someone and you say shit to them. It doesn't really make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's acting out. And what's weird is you can't. It must be a little hard on the relationship sometimes because you can't. can't be like shut the fuck up yeah yeah i think like sometimes in the recording especially early

on you'd hear me to be very sweet and i'm like it's okay baby it's okay baby yeah and then like on like a bad night or if i'm like going on the road the next day you're like not today i'm like god fuck tova fuck god damn it and uh that's not good but it's a lot no i know like it's like someone who snores that causes she snores too that causes this is a A fucking nightmare to sleep next to you sometimes. But society is normalized. If you're in love, you have to sleep. Even though you're unconscious, you have to sleep in the same room.

I agree. And she, there's been a couple times, we live so close to each other. That the night tours used to be a lot worse, they have gotten way better. But there was a couple times where I would say, like, sweetheart, I'm going to go home. And again, she doesn't remember any of this, but then she would, like, kind of be awake and get very sad and crying and blah, blah, blah. And then she'd forget it all the next day. And you can't wake her out of it because bad things happen? I don't know.

It's just like it'll be worse. I think it's a wife's tale. What's going to happen? It's like when you pull out like a memory card out of a computer. Don't do it. You're like, but has anything ever happened? It's the same. It's the same with waking someone up.

I don't think it affects them. Does she ever get up and do stuff? She's like stood up and like moved, again, the glasses or like moved a box here or there. Emma Wilman used to eat during her. her night walking so she um tied herself to her bed so she wouldn't eat peanut butter at night is peanut butter like just shoving peanut butter with her hand did she do like really like she said she'd wake up and her bed would be like a mess that's hilarious it's hilarious it is hilarious and she like was trying to be fit too so she was like this is just not helpful even though she was getting

steps in at night but it it is interesting because like the nighttime does count as part of your relationship, but you could get real animosity towards someone in that kind of frustration. Like, my fiance will get, he doesn't like the sound of typing, so I'll be obviously doing emails in bed, and he's like, and I'm like, dude, I'm not going to go in another room when I'm in my comfortable position right now because you don't like typing. It's hard. My girlfriend, she's also very good at falling asleep, and like, I feel angry sometimes at how quickly.

Like, I get jealous. There's a jealousy, because sometimes I cannot sleep, and those are the worst night. And it's also probably hard to sleep knowing that at any moment she could turn to Waldemort. Yeah. Being like, is it going to happen? Okay, good. I mean, do you think your sleep reflects your level of stress? I think so.

And like, sometimes I try to remind myself, like, when I'm, like, feeling really depressed. I'm like, you're tired. But it is. But I don't know what to do about it. As I've gotten older, I've started waking up earlier, like, on my own accord. I'm like, fuck. Only five hours of sleep But I'm someone who like

I've probably averaged Six and a half hours of sleep average for the last decade What are you gonna do? Big coffee guy Big coffee guy I started Stopping at like 5pm

One day One day I realized like a fucking moron I was like Maybe I shouldn't have my last coffee Was 7 p.m. That was like my line Yeah you won't sleep And then one day I was like

Maybe I should move this early You're like my line is 10 p.m. Don't force me And suddenly I could sleep better And I felt like a moron I was like, of course, you idiot. Yeah, but then it's also like you wanted to be productive. So it's like, are you less productive?

It's a whole thing. But it's also just like school. Like, if I have to sit, like, that's why I don't see a lot of theater. If I see, if I had to sit for three hours, I will fall asleep. So I need coffee before I go see a play. I'll have trouble falling asleep too. But if I'm in a moving vehicle, I turn into a literal baby. And Des will get annoyed because we'll be like driving somewhere.

And he's like, you know, can't have a conversation with me? And I'm like, I do that. like you're the second an airplane the second it moves I'm like I tell my openers now because you know they'll drive me somewhere

and I say I tell them like just so you know on the way there I'm gonna sleep I'm gonna sleep so you're looking and they're like we're at the hotel

I'm like if we're talking shit about comics I'll be awake for that but if you ask me about like how does TikTok work I'm gonna be out I'm gonna be out

I'm gonna be out I think there's an understanding that if you're in that little Subaru wherever you're going and there's three or four comics anything that said it's so crazy

It's so crazy because you, I mean, you talk so much shit. And then there's the realization where it's like, oh, people are talking shit about me on their car rides, too. There's no way, like, I'm not part of other people's conversations talking. What I do is I try to subtly try to think of hear what they hear about if they throw it out about me. So you got to be subtle. You got to be like, oh, yeah, well, yeah, what were they saying about people like that? Has anyone ever said anything something like that? I mean, I think the only, like, shit talking is people being like,

oh Hannah like is she for real kind of thing sure and which like i totally get so i'm like keep my finger on the pulse of of that but then also you get to the point where you're like you don't have to have people think you're for real or not you don't have to all that matters is that you keep getting better yeah keep getting better people go that's that's one of the nice things about stand-up where it's like if you do good jokes people can't deny that or real comedians can't deny that yeah we're going to wrap this up with a final game that's going to get a little darker. Ooh, please.

It's called the Seven Deadly Sins. Seven Deadly Sins. What are you greedy about? I mean, when it comes to, when it comes to having a girlfriend, I'm trying to learn a lot of things about giving. And I'm very greedy. I'm just greedy about work. I'm greedy about work.

And I was just visiting her family in Memphis. and it can be tough where, like, I did shows. That's greedy already. I wanted to do shows. So that's a little bit of greed already. And then it's like, can I, do I need to write that day? Do I need to listen back to the set that day? And I can be very greedy with time.

And it's endless. I could work all day. Yeah. And there's a balance between like, okay, I am in a relationship. Especially with content creation. It's like there's no limit to how many videos you could create. Absolutely. Absolutely.

there's no limited jokes you can write. And when you love doing it, you're like... And I come from like a divorce, multiple divorce family, and like there wasn't a lot of acts of affection or love between these... I had no role models for that. So there's a lot of like, can I get a gift without a gun to my head, without it being told? Can I go out on my way to think, oh, does this...

So it's a lot of that. And I'm learning. when you say multiple divorce what does that mean my my parents are both been divorced twice oh wow and then at stage i say my dad's been divorced four times because he had long relationships okay that ended yeah and that's equally as hard as like a paper yeah but definitely just no like no no functional there was no witnessing of a functional relationship they were all quite toxic yeah which has made you very funny thank you it's all worth it thanks that i do think a lot of comics have that kind of intimacy issue where they've gotten so good at instead of feeling the pain making it funny

or instead of feeling the love or the lack of love making it funny yeah and then that's why dating comics can be hard oh absolutely you're like this me um who are you envious of oh i mean so many comedians but i feel like you're so different than the other comics i want to smack you right now like Even if it's different, like, I'll just, I'll just shout out to Daniel Simonson. Yeah. It was an incredible comedian. But, like, I remember he did my sketch team. We have a guest comic and he did the show.

And I'm sitting backstage and he's murdering. And it's so unique. He's so unique. He talks about just, like, him, like, his social discomfort and, like, dives into it in this incredible way. And I'm backstage and I'm like, fuck. I never talk about my social discomfort. I need, I need to get more interesting. I need to think I need to dive more and I'm like having a full on crisis like I talk about going to college for musical theater who gives a flying fuck about that but that gave you kicking the ass to like rethink some shit sure my therapist says all the time that it's such as mixed blessing because it's like that envy and the anxiety also uh uh forces me to work so much harder and better and become good but at the same time it makes me miserable and I'm witnessing a great comic who

who someday will be hard to get tickets to and I get to be there backstage and he's a freeza, he's a colleague. But don't you, would you ever think that he might watch you and your outgoingness and one man's show? I never buy it. I never buy it. And that he might be like, holy shit, I wish I could like bring the audience to that kind of

excitement that that guy does. He needs to tell me more. But people tell me that. Yeah. Another one, Renan Hirshberg, who's like just, just crushes. And he said to me the other day, he was just, we were talking about a callback for something. like oh well you'll you'll probably get it you're you're a killer or you do great or something and in my head i was like no you don't like you you think i'm a hack though in my head i'm just like i don't

believe it yeah it's tough it's hard and it moves i remember in the acting days where like i would trust a teacher and when like there was a couple teachers in my life that if they told me good job it would go right to my heart and i would get emotional i'd feel like i believe them and it's it's It's hard with comedy because we know just from the lies that we've told to people that that we we barter in insincerity all the time and or you respect it but you don't actually like it like I think what you do admire what you know is true is when a comic goes like you do well and they're like fuck you like if their response is is that same envy and they're like shit that's what you that's what you believe yes it's like I know that when you get a

gift and someone goes oh my god i love it they hate it but if they go oh you know they really like it because it's a weird reaction i was just thinking about that anyway if i got off stage and chambalani was like fuck you yeah fuck you i'd be like yes and that'll be on my website fuck you john malady says go fuck yourself go fuck yourself i feel like the comics i love are the ones who are most different to me like i love rory scovil uh-huh he's one i favorite people and i watched a special being like I could never go on stage and just say anal 20 times and for it to seem genius. Yeah, yeah, yeah. People would be like, she's stupid.

And so that's why I appreciate him. Or even fucking, um, your favorite. Jesselnik. Like he's so different than me. And instead of like the envy, you're just like, holy shit, that's incredible that he does what he does. Let me ask since you've listed men. See, I feel, it feels easier for me to admire women.

That's a possibility. Well, I can't share that. That's a possibility. I do think... Do you ever feel envy? Who, I mean... I feel envy in a way of like, oh, I know that's what I want to do because, like, I, like, for example, Taylor Thomason is, like, killing it.

And we're good friends. And I'm just like, I'll literally just send my manager. I'll be like, look what she did. Like, that's manifest some of that shit kind of thing. and I feel lucky that I like talk to her about shit. Wait, I think that's funny that you tell your manager, let's manifest when you're like, let's you get this fucking done for me. I call it manifestly, which means, let's send us some emails.

Let's make some deals. Let's make the fucking deals. But I'm also very anti, like, looking at someone's career and copying it because I feel like. Totally. Like, we don't even know the shit that can happen in our careers with like new technology and all that shit. But no, I felt a lot of envy with tennis. A lot of envy. Yeah, yeah.

So, like, my dad would be like, why can't you play like that girl? And that shit would ruin me. So then I've, like, had to do a lot of work on envy. And also sometimes envy is just, like, change in the perspective. Like, I guess that's what I'm saying is you change a story in your head. Instead of being like, Daniel Simonson's a genius that I can never do, be like, Daniel Simonson is a genius that does stuff I can never do because I'm really good to other things. Sure.

I mean, you listen, you seem to, I think the tennis gave you such a, because you, I've heard you talk about it, my podcast, another podcast. Yeah. You just seem to have a healthy relationship with, with that. The fucked up shit that I got through has helped me, like, have a better perspective on this. Also, it's just for me now. Before I had all this other pressure of other people. Yeah.

And obviously, we can put so much pressure on ourselves. But I feel like a freedom I didn't have to mess up in tennis that I feel like I can mess up in comedy. Uh-huh. Which sounds, like, painful and scary. No, I think, but I think that's like the artistic attitude. Because, again, there's this thing as I go forward, it's, you want to explore and expand. And that means bombing sometimes. that means taking risks that don't always pan out.

Yeah, like if I saw you bomb, oh, wait, continue. Yeah, I could kill a 15 minute every time. I'm at that place where I have that 15 minutes, but then that's all you're doing. And so it is really hard to overcome, and I think it's hard at every level. Like, I think Bill Burr, who's, you know, thought of as one of the greatest comics alive right now,

like you'll see him go up and bomb. And I don't think it's easier for him. maybe he has more assurance like people realize I'm great so they know that this is not the best I can do but it's still hard it's hard to have everyone having a great time and being like I'm gonna make everyone have a worse time right now and I'm not gonna do I'm not gonna do the best that I could do right now but it's it becomes because you know long term you have to work on that new material like I was about to say if I saw you bomb I'd be like oh fuck he's working on some new shit yeah he's on that new shit and I got to the point where my fiance because he's a comic star to tell me he's like if you're not bombing sometimes you're not working and he's like I'm sick of hearing you like doing well it's like yeah no shit you're doing your best 15 minutes every time

like who gives a fuck and I think that's one of the problems with the comedy scene right now I think there's so many comics it's so competitive and clubs you kind of have to kill it or some clubs will just stop working you and I do think it's detrimental to the artistic process there's it does not feel like there's clubs these days

I mean unless you're one of their favorites where you get to work there every night and they understand that you might even walk some people sometimes they'll be like it's okay these clubs are like you walked we only had two audience members tonight you walked them we had to close so I think it's in a tough place right now I am I'm fortunate that one of the places I work one of the managers pulled me aside and they were like hey

you you don't be afraid to bomb because I think I was being like very perfectionist and they saw that I was like not trying that's good manager that's very nice and and to have a club kind of be like you know it's all good but obviously like one new person walks in or a comic you respect and then you're like back to the old material it's the comics the further you get it's like i don't care about the audience it's the comics one comic walks in i'm like they have to know they must know when meanwhile they're just like running through their own set in their head and they haven't listened to anything exactly exactly now that i have openers though the i think they get nervous if they do badly i'm like oh brother i was not paying attention to a second of you people ask me like oh do you like that opener i've never heard any of my openers ever i like if they're a good hand And you could tell if the audience is like super disturbed after, but like pretty much I don't listen. What do you gluttonous about?

What do you overindulge in? I mean, it's weird to think of like work as as gluttony, but I, I don't know. It feels like a cop out answer. That's one of those like, what's my fault? I'm too honest. Yeah. What's my glutton? I just like so organized.

In school, were you straight a student? I was like an A minus. Like I was like the I was like the. I was like the. medium in the advanced classes. Yeah. I didn't care quite enough. Yeah.

I'm gluttonous. I mean, I guess I like to snack a lot, but it's unhealthy. What kind of healthy snacks? Like, I'll have like a bag of baby carrots every day. That's adorable. Do you do like almonds? I do a lot of, unsalted. I'm salted.

I'll do, I'll do full like smokehouse barbecue. I'm like, this is the most unhealthy thing. You know when they put that shit outside it? Sure. Fuck me up. I've been getting so into. frozen grapes it like fucking rocks my world i really

into like ice i used to eat snow cones plain oh if i will have a plain snow cone because i like the texture and i like the cold to the melt that's my chain you're like kid that was like licking the snow yes absolutely all the snow cone people know having an athletic game of

you know throwing snowballs and you're just like every snow cone person i go to i say can i have a plane and then i go how much and they go you can just have it and i give them you know don't don't come back around these parts, okay? Well, when's the last time you experienced extreme wrath? So how is your, is it something that you occasionally just blow up or all the time are you angry at shit? I, I mean, I'm a subway, like I'm the guy on the subway platform where if something happens, I will go, fuck, God, fucking God, fucking damn it.

And I realize I'm a big man, sometimes people get scared. And I don't like to see people feel fear around me. Yeah. but recently i was i was in indianapolis i was at a helium comedy club and i got a thrown out of a starbucks and i don't think i was yelling this time but i felt like it was like a new yorker moment where it was something where i thought i had used stars to buy like a fancy expensive drink wait you are a karen god yes sure no but i was thrown out karen's don't get thrown out karen's get filmed and shan on life uh uh uh and

And it was like, like, they said they used my stars, then they didn't. I went back to return the drink, essentially. And they said, oh, we don't accept stars here. And I said, oh, well, I asked to use the stars. I wouldn't have gotten the drink if I didn't ask. And the breeze was like, no, you didn't. And I instinctively, I instinctively, I went, yes, I did. And the other employee was like, I am not going to have you yell at my employees.

And that's when I felt like I'm not in New York anymore because I did not yell. That was not a yell. Now, now, and this is a road thing where I do think, like, I bring a new, what's appropriate in New York is not appropriate everywhere else. I was in an airport in Appleton and the airplane got delayed for the second time. And I went, fuck! And the, the, the woman at the desk turned to me and went, behave yourself. And she left. And then later, I'm like, I'm like, go to the gate to check into the new flight and a police officer comes over.

And I'm wearing my mask. Thank God, because he goes, all right, so here's what's going to happen. If you have another outburst, I'm going to have you removed from this airport. If you resist, if you resist arrest, we will put you on the no-fly list and you'll never fly another United Flight in your entire life. And I'm like, in my soul, I'm like raging. Yeah. And I wanted to say something like, sorry, sir, I'm from New York where, you know, we express our anger

rather than taking it out at home on our wives. And I didn't. I didn't, but it was a moment, you know, a moment where, and I've only had a couple of these moments in my life thankfully and this is privilege where I was like this could fuck up my life really bad yeah I need to calm down because my dad was a yeller my dad screamed at everything he lost it in public he would take it out on waiters which I don't do customer service sometimes I am one of those people but lots of rage lots of rage lots of wrath I love it because like your quick wittedness is so good for comedy but also you definitely get you on a no fly list so easily

But, like, when you get angry, especially with comedy, like, I can tell an audience member, like, shut the fuck up in a funny way. But once in a while, you'll feel that anger come out. There's nothing funny about it. There's nothing funny about real anger. And one of the earliest shows I ever did, like, a year in, there was, like, some women, like, talking bad, talking bad. And some woman is heckling the whole show. And at the end, I said, I hope you get hit by a car, you fucking cunt. And I thought the movie go, huh.

And it was so funny because no one. cared about that i hope you get hit by a car which is the violent thought everyone just cared that i called her a cunt yep which in europe is just normal just normal is what you call your mom yeah and and uh so a lot of wrath a lot of rage i don't take it out on people too often but like if the printer's broken and i feel free to like i you'll hear me scream at a printer like fucking piece of five lose it's so funny because that is almost like therapy when when you're in a subway and it's and you hear someone just let it out everyone's like yeah like we high five to it once once i i was going to my therapist office uh at pre-pantemic on 88th street and the street was

closed down for some reason and the the police officer was like you have to show a piece of mail proving you live here if you want to go in and i was like i have therapy and they're like sorry and i i close to the police officers again wild privilege i was like fuck god fuck this god fucking city burned to the fucking ground New York and I turned to my right and my therapist was standing right there and they're like we're gonna after triple your session I was like how does that make you feel

and so it's it's a lot of it's a lot of that I don't know if I'm working on it do you have road rage I don't drive thank God thank God thank God I'm sure I would thank goodness gracious it's not good it's not funny it's not cute and I know if I ever get more successful like that will

be I love that you got kicked out of a Starbucks. It's impressive. But then I wrote their social media and I got $15 free credit. And that was worth it. How many times I'm going to Indianapolis Starbucks? Go fuck yourself. I love your passion for stars as well.

When was the last time you were a sloth? So you let yourself sleep in, be lazy, not do anything, watch some Netflix. This is the one that my girlfriend would love for me to be more of a sloth, do you judge her if she's a sloth we struggle with it I mean listen I don't judge her I mean she'll listen to this and then we will talk about this

but occasionally like my fiance would be like you want to go for walk yeah I'm a fucking dog and he's like you've been lying here all day and you're wondering while you're depressed and I'm like let me be depressed let me be depressed yeah like you're actually worsening my depression

because now I'm feeling judged sure she feels that she feels that for me and and I do think here's I think from me I when I was younger in high school I was not I did not do sports I did I would binge watch things I would watch a lot of anime I just have a couple of noodles diet Coke and I would just spend Saturday nights like that and I played video games and stuff and so like I think when I look at my life I look at that part of my life with with a lot of judgment and I get mad we talked about this we talked about how your dad was like a tiger dad and I was like I wish my parents had said get the fuck out of bed go fucking do something because you're going to look back on this and you're going to be happy you did And so it can be very tough.

I'm not an easy person in that sense where I see like a partner and I'm like, come on. You can't be doing this. You got to get out. You got to get moving. And like I think, I believe in some ways that can be like it's positive to have someone like that sometimes. And then other times you're like, you're just an asshole. Yeah. And you're just making them feel bad for enjoying their lives.

There is a balance. I always go, I'm having a mental health day. And does it be like, it's called the week. You don't have to, like, make it a mental health thing. And I'm like, it's just a means. And also, we're always tired during our job. Of course. So, like, it's a thin line.

I also, you know how you feel like you're making out for lost time? Because you were, like, sitting and watching TV. I feel like I never had that time as a kid. So now I, like, get rebellious. And I'm like, I'm not going to get out of the couch today. I'm like, I'm working. Yeah. I'm working.

But I get stoned, that's kind of the only way that I do it. When I get stoned, I sometimes hit a point where I'm like, oh, I'm too high to work right now. There's nothing I could do right now. Do you write well high sometimes? I write a lot of ideas high and then like you come back and only 10% of them are good. But it can be challenging because when I get high, I get very much like, I'll be talking and I'm like, wait a second and I have to write it down. And in my mind, I'm like this thought is amazing.

But I have a lot of thoughts. If 10% are good, you got to write them all. If I was ever like needed to write material or when I did roast jokes and I had to get outside of the box, I'd always get high. I would like schedule like tonight's tonight to get high to write my roast jokes. John Marco is so good at Roasting. Check out his YouTube videos. No, they're fucking funny.

Because I feel like people come at you at the same musical theater shit and you're just like and then you just get them like so fucking hard where you're like a musical theater nerd shouldn't be saying those things. What was the last time you let pride or your ego get in the way of something? This is a tough one.

I think in a lot of ways and this goes in with me like trying to enjoy other people's greatness more it's like i don't feel like i compliment people or like express my admiration for them uh as sincerely as i could because i'm i'm so overcome with with the envy like i've never given an authentic compliment in my life i tell people but i tell it in that way where i'm like fuck dude yeah god damn it like like i i allow them to see that that that envy as opposed to being able to be like that that's incredible yeah That's kind of corning.

I feel like comics can't really accept compliments that authentic. Yeah, they can't. But I still think like there's something in you that appreciates. Like even Renan saying that thing to me, I was like, oh, I didn't know. And maybe I'm wrong, but I'm like, oh, I didn't know you respected me. Isn't it weird how one comment like saying like, oh, yeah, you kill, everyone knows you kill? Suddenly you have a whole new perspective of like, oh, wait, everyone who I thought was making fun to me in their head thinks I'm amazing. And it just really is that story that you're telling yourself based on

And these other people aren't even fucking thinking about you most of the time Sure But you're walking through, you're the main character of your life And you're creating that scene each day of like what's, what era are we in? What, you know, the first half, second half, what's happening? You know what I mean? Yeah. Are we going to die in our sleep tonight?

Is this the end? Is this the finale? Sure. I don't want to freak you out. Right. Some people can't accept it. I remember once I tried to like, I was drunk and I like tried to toast Thomas Sadiqi. I was like, you're, I think you're really incredible.

And he was like, whoa, what are we dying here? I'm like, and I was like, okay, okay, okay, okay. I was just trying to have a moment. It's all right. No, I'll even like compliment a comics t-shirt and they're like, ah, ah, when was the last time you lusted over someone? So besides your girlfriend, do you? What the fuck? Do you?

She's going to be so mad at you. I mean, this is a trap. You can't get out of it. But, like, is there a celebrity crush you have? Yes. What was my last celebrity crush? I mean, it is tough because no matter who it is, my girlfriend will not be happy with...

Find someone who looks just like her. Who's her celebrity like a life? Just like another Jew. Natalie Portman. Natalie Portman, sure. No, I think it might be worse. It's got to be someone very different. Or it's got to be like a guy.

I think he'd be fine if it was like a Jew. Who's your male celebrity crush? Ooh. Ooh. There was one recently I thought of. God damn it. It never, I have, I think with men, there's always a thing where I can't tell, like, am I tracked to them or do I want to be there? Yeah. You know, there's a thing of like, because listen, I really do think if I, if I had enough of an urge to be with a man that I would want it, that it would have happened by now. There's things about men that, like, I just find repulsive. same when it gets close you too yeah yeah when it gets like closer like it's just like ugh like like you start like noticing like i think people are gross yeah like there's revulsion with everyone breath smells farts and then like if you're attracted enough it overcomes it yes but with men it doesn't overcome it so like if they get closer i i see their mouth and it's like it's not clean yes hair yes what if i oh okay the uh the the woman in succession uh The Redhead? Yeah.

Yes, she's Shiv. Shiv. Shiv. You know, she's Australian? I do. Which, like, makes her hotter and more interesting. Yeah. I mean, especially anyone who's a good actor, you're just like...

Honestly, the amount of actors who I thought had English accents, I mean, American accents, and then I find out their Australian blows my fucking mind. That's why I love award shows. I'm like, that guy's fucking Swedish. Like, that guy's fucking Northern Ireland. Who the... I did an acting company with a lot of Australians. And it's just very funny because part of the reason

they're so good at it is their whole media is mostly American. They're consuming it, yeah. I've watched one Australian show in my entire life. I'm like, Outback Steakhouse, we're done. I can't do access to save my life. I try, and I was around Australians for like a year, and I was just like,

nah, no, my. I can't do it. It's humiliate. I can't do it. Okay, final question, since you've been attacking hell it's been amazing the devil is happy what advice would you give to the little devils on how to cope with your hell when you're going through it when you're in your darkest time what's your go-to thing to do i think and i find a lot of solace in in the work and i think there's

something to be said where like if i'm feeling shitty about career or or my comedy it's like will go and write. And it focuses you on the doing of the thing as opposed to the final result of the thing. And I get a lot of joy cracking a joke on my own and being like, ooh, I should try that. And that will kind of make me feel good. And it can be challenging because, like,

especially this is having like a partner where she'll come to a show. And I've been trying to work on this where I know she's watching and it's like she must feel anxiety. She does because it's like the next 15 minutes my set is going to determine what kind of guy

I'm going to be like for the rest of the night. And there's sometimes where it's hard because if I was single or alone, if I had a bad set, like I can go home and figure out how to deal with it. And sometimes that might mean working. And I think sometimes like if we have like a date night after a show, it can be challenging

because after it I feel anxiety and I kind of look to her to almost fix it to make me feel like I'm funny which no one can do no one could do the only two solutions are another set which might not be there or like I need a second to go like do the work and I think that'll take me out of it

so that's what I always try to remind myself of when I'm feeling that way it's like okay that's fine that's fine this is just one night go back to the work and then I think there's always that reminder of Pete there's some weird adage with show business of like you're only as good as your last performance and I think that I think like that toxic

So toxic Because I'm like well then some nights I should kill myself because I bombed And there can be a certain degree of like Remember the last good show And how that felt And just try to kind of come with some kind of balance Also think of all the people have seen you

the last time they saw you that's how you are in their heads you can't keep thinking of your last performance like that's too fucking complicated and it makes no sense also i did not have a great set last night because there was like all these people who were at a band concert that just like came over and were sitting in the front and like thought they were funny yeah and by the end like and making comments like just heckling the whole time that like obviously the rest of the people were like there was no way to crush yeah and not everyone's gonna love you i think that's the other thing where sometimes it's like, yeah, if you murder all the time, and I have to be cognizant of this because, like,

I will adjust to audiences, which I think it's okay to a degree, but it's like, not everyone's going to like you. Again, like, I think it was recently where I had that thought where I were trying to, and it feels childish to say, but just like the idea of like, oh, I have to watch other good people and enjoy it, where I walk through my favorite comic of Anthony Jessenick,

and I'm like, oh, he's on shows where everyone is murdering. There's no way when he's on a show with John Mulaney or earthquake that they're not doing amazingly but he's still amazing so I can be good if I want to show another good people There are people in the crowd

you cannot just you want to be remembered so there'll be people in the crowd who will connect to your shit in a type of way based on their lens from their own life experiences that you can't fucking control Wow we really got to the bottom of life here

but I also think what you said when you say you're not trying to just be Kim K and be like get your ass up and work but the fact is is if you just sit in your anxiety and get frozen in it that's all you feel

but shit is always moving you'll have another set you have more jokes that you can write and it's just remember that everything's always moving and that's good about stand-up at least is like you get to do it so much

where like acting is acting is brutal I mean acting is brutal because you just don't know when the next show is or maybe if you're in a play that's one thing but otherwise like

you do something bad you don't know when you're coming back stand-up is like a craft where you really just get to do it again and again and again And that's comforting. John Marco, where can people find you? What are the goods?

Give me everything. Since we're listening to a podcast, The Downside is my podcast, The Downside, which are Marcus to Raisi, you've been on it. It was a great episode. And it's just, it's, it's, it's, we interview guests, but we talk about the negatives. And it becomes very Jewish. A lot of Jews have come on. Yes.

I'm Jewish. And we just, we dive into the things they're feeling bad about. And we complain in a fun way. And I felt like if I was going to do a weekly thing, it would have to. to be in that space. Have to be in a negative energy. And then otherwise, find me on social media. It's at your Marcos Aresi on all the things.

And when you go there, you can sign up for either my texting list or the email list. I'm torn all around the country. Really, truly, for real this time, not just Pennsylvania. And come see me live. I got a monthly show in New York called The Silver Lining at Sesh Comedy Club, the first Sunday of every month. But sign up for those things and just come see me live because that's where. I love it. I highly recommend

especially if you're in New York City he'll be there and he'll be in other places too and yeah, thanks so much for listening and hell today guys and I'll talk to you later. Bye!