Berner Phone - Gizelle Bryant: Potomac Royalty & Finding Greatness

Episode Date: December 16, 2020

Word on the street is that Gizelle is in hell spilling on how she became a Housewife and all her inner demons.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So I'm getting screamed at. Where's Cuomo? Giselle? Where's Cuomo? And I'm like, oh, no. I see him in this room by himself. Like the holding room, he's by himself, drinking his stupid coffee. I was like, sir!

He was like, yes. I said, get out there. Now! Welcome to Burning Hell. What is up, you guys? We are in hell with, well, word on the street, one of the hottest guests we've ever had. She's a reality TV star. She's an author.

She's an entrepreneur. She's a mother of three amazing girls and my co-worker on chat room. She's O'Brien, welcome to hell. Oh, I am excited to be in hell because I'm always in heaven. So it's time I go to hell. You know, because you are drop dead gorgeous. You always look like you have your shit together. And you're on one of the top shows on Bravo.

So I decided that we should break it the fuck down. Yes. I do want to know. Did you always think that you might be famous one day? Um, not really. I just felt like, like once I got divorced, I was like, all right, what's going to happen to my life? And I knew that something was going to happen. I just didn't know what.

And then it happened. it's crazy because you also your husband was famous like he was this huge personality and did you find that during it you were kind of like more supporting him and now you really found your own yes like i was i've always been totally this girl but when i was married i was like all about making him the biggest he could possibly be like i was all about um getting my michel obama on and making him a national pastor, which he, that happened. I did that. Check. But now I feel like you guys have kind of found a way for you to be your full self while coexisting with his stardom and your stardom. Yes. Definitely. And definitely he looks at me differently. Like, you know, because of my

success, because of what I've been able to do on my own without him, he's now like, oh, wow. Like, she's a bad bitch and before it's not that he didn't think I was a bad bitch he didn't have anything to weigh it on you know what I mean I was just like out here helping him out so he has like a newfound respect for me and yes we've been able to balance the two but you have to understand our lives are so polar opposite meaning I'm this reality person I talk shit I talk about blowjobs I do all that he's like what are you doing jazelle like can you like calm down down. Bring it down. So it's, you know, I try to be as respectful as I can towards his platform and what he's doing. But, you know, I got to be me. Yeah. So you are this weird combination of

very, very classy, but also knows how to be like hysterical and messy and get into it. Have you always been like that? Uh, yeah. Because you literally are like Michelle Obama, but then you will like call a bitch out in a second. Yes, but I mean, there's like time and place. Yeah. So I don't, I mean, I don't walk around being like, um, I saw Sturice did, said the other day that, you know, like, Jazeel's not like that person on TV all the time. Like, no, like I can't be walking around a ball of just calling people out like 24-7. I mean, who lives like that? You don't show about like the PTA meeting with Angel being like, okay, I heard you brought cupcakes, but she said your cupcakes weren't as good as her cupcakes.

I can't do that. So I, you know, when I come to work, I work. I appreciate that because as someone on a reality TV show, like, you're there to, like, live and show your full self. You don't, you're like, is it worth it right now? That's a good question. Is it worth it? Some days I feel like no.

But then there are other days where most days I'm like, absolutely. But I get it. I mean, I got it then, but I normally want to give my opinion, but there's sometimes where I just don't want to give my opinion, but I have to. I feel like reality TV has made me grown because I wasn't that in touch with my feelings or I was very good at suppressing it and just being tough and just being like whatever happens happens, but reality TV, you're allowed to feel, you're allowed and you have to understand your emotions and what you stand for because America is going to judge what you stand for.

So, like, how have you changed in these five seasons? it's so funny because at the reunion it was like we were talking Andy was asking like who has changed and who hasn't and I was like no I'm the shady bitch from season one like I haven't changed you're like I just get recognized more but

right but I it's kind of like what you said like you have to own your shit whatever it is you got to own it because you have to live in it you've got to talk about it. You've got to be judged on it. And so you can't waver. So I don't like when people do that. Like I don't like when people get on reality television just kind of like play the fence

or waiver. No, you got to have an opinion. Yeah. I was told that like people are watching and they, if they agree with you, then it's like they're a fan of you. And then if they don't, they're still a fan. Like we're like sports for for like people watching. It's just like more fun sports and more alcohol involved. Potomac, I have to say, like, I'm a little biased, but I think it's one of the best housewives. Really? Well, because some housewives, the drama is like over Lucy, Goosey, Apple Juicy for 15 episodes. Yes.

Where in one episode, you guys will have cheating rumors, tax evasion, a girl getting her hair pulled out. Like, that's one episode. Like, this is gold. Do you think people have been sleeping on it and why? Oh, 100%. Absolutely. But you have to understand, we came in late. Okay, so you had all of these Housewives shows.

I think it was like six or seven of them. And then six years later, here we come. And, you know, I get it. People are invested in whatever they're watching. And they don't want to put another show on their list, right? Like, why do we care about these women now? Right, right. So I understood it.

We were like the little engine that could. And to be quite honest, Hannah, I loved that spot. Like, I loved being like... Underdog. Yes. Like, it was, it was like our sweet spot. And you definitely earned it. Yes.

And we brought it, like, we have brought it for five seasons. It's just that now, you know, there's a pandemic for a very long time. There was nothing else on. It's a good effing season. Like, the season is fire. And everybody was like, well, damn, who are these girls? and I'm like we've been here for five seasons yes people are I think people are binging it too like my friends are messaging me being like well did you watch season two and I'm like oh I have

to catch up on that so anyone listening watch Potomac it's a game changer in your life these women also I feel like you guys didn't have this like air about you that some other housewives have where they didn't want to like go there or they didn't want to tell stuff about their lives and you guys, and, like, your friendship with Robin is so authentic. And, like, you can't fake that stuff on screen. No, you got to give us that balance of shady drama, funny. Like, if we don't have our funny, then it puts us in the same category as some of the other franchises.

And I don't want to be that. Like, I always want to be authentic to who we are, because we are all very funny in our own way. And I think that's how you've mastered the messiness of the show because you do it in a way that if you didn't say that, it wouldn't have, like, continued a story. And did you do it with such a tasteful, like, smirk on your face where it's like, you guys, I don't, you know, like, we're in on this together.

Like, come on. Like, you're not out there really to hurt anybody. And that's why I think, like, I've become such a fan watching you. Aw. How have you and Robin, how has your friendship changed over the last five years? Because your co-workers now in a messy job. Yeah. We've actually become closer, which is great. You know, it was so funny because like season one, season two, you know, we were super close. But then I think around season three, there was like an incident that happened. I can't remember what it was. You know, Robin doesn't agree with everything I do. And that's the beauty of our friendship. And I don't want a friend that just agrees with me, cosigns everything I say and do because I'm messy. I'm sometimes horrible. And I need somebody like check me. And she does that. So. and she's great.

Like I always say like Robin is just like a nicer version of Giselle. She's on your shoulder. Yes, she really is. And, you know, I respect her. I respect her game. I respect her life. I respect everything that she does.

And no, you can't fake that. We were friends years before the show. My relationship with Karen, I've known Karen years before the show came along. And though like I hate her guts, but, you know, she's, she is who she is, and I get who she is. She has no idea who she is. That's who she is. I kind of love your constant, like, banter of you two hating on each other.

It's a lot from her end, but it makes me, it makes me laugh because there's, like, no, like, nothing really happened to make her that annoyed at you, like, everything you do. It's like, what are you mad at? You, you're that mad, really? But it creates great tension. because every scene you're like at any time, Giselle could say something that Karen's going to snap off on. And that's what makes the show so fucking good. You also have three daughters.

How did you explain to them? Like, did they watch the show? Did they want to film it? Like, what's their perspective on it all? You know, it's been a roller coaster. So, like, when we first started, they were like, okay, first of all, my only issue with being on a show was them. Like, I was like, if they're not on board, I can't do this.

But they were so important. They're like, Mom, you're going to be on TV? Oh, my God, yes. They're like, are we going to be on TV? And I was like, yes. They were like, yes. So, okay, so the twins just started a new school. So now they're in high school.

They're like cringing at their friends finding out who their mother is. They're like, I'm like, what? I'm a bad bitch. Like, I'm very good to be a bad bitch. Like, how do you not want your friends to know? Like, that's such. teenager shit though being like mom you're embarrassing me you talk about blow jobs yes okay I get that so in order to like have a happy medium no I don't let them watch the show if they watch it they watch

it on their own whatever um all their friends watch the show so if ever they're on their friends are calling them like oh you said this and blah blah um but you know I want them to I want them to live their life like I don't want them to be consumed in my nonsense now I feel like They are very opinionated, smart, beautiful girls. What have they taught you as a mother, especially being a single mother for so many years? They taught me patience. Like, I had zero patience before they got here. And now it's like, I got to calm down.

I got to make it all about them. I have to teach them that they're the prize. You know what I mean? Like, you know, y'all are going to date a bunch of boys. They're all stupid. you know, you got to make sure that you get the fact that, you know, you're the prize. Like, you know, don't let anybody make you feel less than because you're not. And be smart and just get it.

Do you? Yep. Like, after you finish school, do you? Like, travel the world, you know, whatever job you want to do, make it your own and live your life and not worry about the world because the world is like mean and nasty. Yeah. I always say that once your energy is right, I feel like then you start attracting the right guys or their friends. But if your energy is off and easily influenced and just like all over the place, the wrong people can come in your life.

Yeah. Girls in their early 20s, that's my advice. It's fine. What brings you joy? Focus on yourself because, I mean, I was all over the place. Early 20 sucks. But I, they're so great. They've come on chat room and they just have a beautiful, beautiful energy to them.

And I love them so much. I feel like I want to dig a little deeper into you because I do think you're one of the most beautiful women on this planet I know I'm like sucking up to you right now but I believe it what are you insecure about physically? Oh that's a good question I like everything so because you look like a Barbie doll um you know I'm always concerned about my weight

um so you know like we just passed Thanksgiving I was eating everything under the sun So I'm always, like, very conscious about, like, what I eat. And that's been since I was in my 20s. Like, that's never gone away. And to the point where I'm like, I can't wait for the day when I can just, like, not have to worry about what I eat. And I don't feel like, oh, my gosh, I'm fat or anything like that. I just want to feel healthy.

Yeah. And I think that's it, just like my weight. Yeah. And do you ever suffer from anxiety at all? Like, are you a perfectionist? Or, because I know you're kind of type A. Yes. So I worry about everything. And then I worry about nothing at the same time. Yeah, I get it. That actually made so much sense. And, you know, as my kids get older, I was kind of like checking in with them because, you know, this is like some trying times. Like, you know, you can stick into a depression in five seconds.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, like I do worry about my future. I worry about my kids. I worry about chat room. I worry about everything. but I let it go like I don't I just feel like I don't consume the worry yeah when the worry comes you have to be like this is not real this is just like an annoying roommate in my head and I also think that people who can worry a lot have a good sense of humor because you have to laugh at those voices sometimes and be like girl I don't have time for you right now yes but I go I work out every day so I get up in the morning I'm at the gym at like 630 I'm doing a class And that, like, gets my mind right. If I didn't work out, I would have troubles.

Oh, yeah. You go to bed early and wake up early and start the day. Were you always like that? Because I go to bed, I don't know, normal like midnight, but I can knock it out of bed sometimes in the morning. Well, Hannah, you have to stop drinking, okay? It's all about the drinking. She's like, I've seen you on chat room.

You a mess. Now, yes, for me, I go to bed early. even if I go to bed late I want that consistency in my life so I got to get up I got to hit the jam I got to get my mind right I got three girls I got to be concerned about they're always coming at me with like demands

like if I didn't have my mind right like I would I would lose it I would freaking lose it do you ever deal with depression at all when I was younger yes when I was probably I don't know like teens maybe and I didn't know what it was at the

time because you know i'm a little older nobody talked about depression but yeah like i would get into like a funk yeah and i don't i don't know how it manifested or like where it came from but i just remember not feeling happy you know and not and feeling like okay when this and this and this happens in my life then i'll be happy and that's just like not how you should live yeah you start to realize later that when you get those things, you're still the same girl. Yeah. And happiness like really does come from within and not the results around you. Because yeah, you also had that perfect like housewife life on paper. And it sounds like then things got messy and it sounds like you found your real confidence now. But I've always felt like, you know, I'm a product of my parents

and they very much taught me like I teach my kids that, you know, I'm the prize. I am. I am. to be treated with respect at all time. And so when things got messy in my life with regards to my marriage, it was just kind of like, I'm not living my life like this. And I realized later, Hannah, that, like, me getting a divorce with, like, three kids under the age of two, like, nobody does that. No. And I just did it because that's why I felt like I should do for myself.

It was an act of self-love. Yes. But later, it brought me confidence. It didn't bring me confidence at the time. But, like, later, I was like, wow, I went through that and I'm still me and I'm still like feeling like I'm the baddest thing walking and the smartest thing talking. Yes.

And then you decided to write your book. Is that therapeutic for you? Can you tell me about that? After I got a divorce, I wanted to write a book, but I just didn't know in what form it was going to be or how I was going to do it. And I didn't ever want to throw my ex-husband under the bus just because it's like, why? you know what I mean? No need. So finally I got to a place where I was like, you know what? It's going to be fiction and it's going to be like a novel and I'm going to tell my story but I'm changing people and I'm making it. And then that gave me the room to make it juicier and to be like more salacious and really just make it a page turner. So yes, it was therapeutic. Like when I finished it, I cried. I was like, oh my gosh. I, you know, have put this pen to paper, and I felt like the story was amazing.

And you've won awards for it. And I just love, like, that you're taking your experiences. And, like, you probably affected a lot of people out there who read that and probably felt understood or just less alone. Yeah. Well, I got so much feedback from it. And everybody, especially people in the church world, they got it. They understood it.

But, like, even just going through a bad relationship, you know, you understand your a little bit better. And sometimes you just want a little boost. You just want a little something to read that's going to give you a little piece of confidence to either stay or leave or cuss them out or whatever. I know. I feel like you deciding that you wanted a divorce with girls that young were clearly you didn't know if you could probably even handle that, but you knew what you deserved at that time. And like that is an act of self-love to say like, I deserve better. And this is what I'm going to do, and I'm going to figure it out, even though I don't know what it is yet. And you also, you come from, like, high society of Potomac.

You have, like, your parents are important, and you have the church. So, like, how do you walk in a room knowing that you're on reality TV? Like, do you have haters in the community? Um, uh, yeah. Uh, okay. But, you know, I don't care. Like, I've never cared. I've always been, you know, when I walk into a room, I think I brighten up the room a little bit.

When we first started the show, you know, you have to understand, Potomac is a white town. And black women are representing Potomac. So that was already an issue. And we got so much hate, season one. And then it was a hit. And then it was like, oh, okay, we like these girls. And we understand the show. And we're happy that they're representing Potomac.

But it was difficult in the beginning. It's so funny because I don't know anything about Potomac. I told you. I thought it was it was Potomac. I was calling at Potomac. My friends were like, you're embarrassing us. I didn't know anything about it, but now I'm obsessed. Yeah. And also shout out to Bravo. I'm so, I feel so honored to be a part of chat room that is an all female talk show. Also, we have a black female showrunner who is a bad ass motherfucker fucking bitch. And I just feel honored to like be a part of. And I just feel honored to like be a part of. And I. I really think that I hope that it grows and keeps moving because it's been so much fun, right? Chatroom is like a breath of fresh air for me. Yeah. So, first of all, it's a different skill set.

I was telling Andy this the other day when I was at the reunion. I was like, you know, it's a totally different skill set. And not that the four of us didn't have the skill set, but it's like, well, you probably have tapped into it a little bit more because you have your podcast and all that. The fact that it's the four of us and we've jelled so quickly together and we have like this amazing chemistry. And yes, it was birthed out of the pandemic. But there's no reason why we should not be in a studio like doing it because it would make it so much better. Well, for me, like doing it on Zoom is hard. Like, you know, like comedy's about timing and

you're like, have something you want to say. And then like, you know, your internet's going down and you're like, no. But I think it's made us like, we realize we're in this pandemic kind of production together and we've all been so patient with each other when someone's like computer goes down like whatever bullshit happens and I feel like the show's good because I feel like we're all really rooting for each other because we know like if we all need to be on a top of our game for it to flow and it does feel like yeah we're on this team and but it is a different mindset that like we get to talk shit on other things and just have like a conversation with girls at brunch and not like have to necessarily put our lives on the line all the time yeah yes

Yes, you're not coming on and we're not like, Giselle, so did Jamal text you? Well, is that something texted you? Yeah, and that's why I say it's been a breath of fresh air because it's like, we're giving our opinions on everything else outside of like really us and our personal lives, which has been fun. And I really like it. Like I think we're all like very, very good at it. It's also cool because we started Bravo just thinking like, wow, it's great.

We get to be on this reality show. to see them see other talents in us? Yes. To bring, like, different kinds of joy or laughter to people. Because, like, we have strong opinions, and that works well in a lot of different things. We could be lawyers next. Who knows?

Yes, yes. And I'm like, you know, my strong opinion has worked for me. It has brought me to where I am today. But sometimes, you know, it's not so good. But to know that my opinion on chatroom like matters is everything. Were you in finance before? What were you doing back in the day? So back in the day. Yes. So when I went to college, I was a finance major. I don't know what I wanted to do with that. I don't know. I wasn't quite sure. I was just like really. It sounds important though. I was enjoying myself in school. But you know, finance sounded like impressive, right? But I couldn't hack it. Like that's a lot of mental work. So I changed my major to marketing, which is more or so up my alley. When I graduated, I worked for the NAACP. That's where I met.

them all. I was like their liaison between corporate, the corporate world, the money and the organization. And like I did, I dealt with all the conventions. So like when Bill Clinton came, when Hillary Clinton came, when Cuomo came, like I was like their girl that they had to deal with. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah, I was like that bitch. I was like that event bitch. Like I was like, you were like the publicity girl. You were like, I know where the party is. Follow me. We're going to have time. Yeah. And I was like the one that was like, we'd keep them on top of timing because, you know, these conferences are like huge. But all of these political people that are very important, they, you know, want to come in whatever they feel like it. No, we've got like an agenda we're following here. Yeah. And messing it up. So you're like, Cuomo, stop texting. I'm telling you what to do. Well, this was before texting. This was like a long time ago. So he actually, this is how he like offered me a job because he was, I don't think I've ever told the story. He was in the back. So the conference is happening.

There's like a, you know how you see those big tables with like the dais and everybody's like sitting down at the table and there's like a big audience out there and they're talking to those people and one by one they're talking. Okay. Cuomo, you're in the back drinking your coffee because you decided that you didn't get your coffee that morning and you need to have coffee before you went out on the dais. And I was like, so I'm getting screamed at. Where's Cuomo?

Giselle? Where's Cuomo? And I'm like, oh, no. So I was mad that I was going to shoot at because of this time. Because he needed to drink his coffee, not on stage. I see him in this room by himself, like the holding room. He's by himself drinking his stupid coffee. So I was like, I didn't even know his name.

I was like, sir! He was like, yes. I said, get out there now! So he was like, okay, okay. So he was like, I just wanted my coffee. So I was like, I'll bring you your damn coffee. So he goes out there. and I get his little stupid coffee

and I bring it to him and I leave. He was like, well, holy shit, who's that girl? She's a future real housewife of Potomac and she just said his people find me and they were like, you know, you know, Mr. Cuomo

was very impressed with you. We'd like to talk to you about being his like advanced team. And I was like, sure. So I went, I met with him, I met with the whole team, and they offered me a job. But the advance, they literally work 340 days out of the year. And I don't really want to work that hard like ever. So I said, I'm not doing that. You were like, I'm flattered that when I whipped your ass into shape, you would like,

that's the kind of girl I wanted my team. But I'm my own team. I'm going to be over here with me. I love that story. I love that story. But it's also like, I can say that Cuomo hired me. Yeah. I didn't take the job, but he hired this girl. Hell yeah. Oh, also real quick, I wanted to ask you, because you said you met Jamal at the NWACP. Yeah. When you met him, was it immediate? Like, did you immediately start seeing each other? Like, were you like, this guy's going to be my husband or was it more complicated?

Okay. So I heard his voice. voice. Oh, I love when you're attracted to someone's voice. And I was like, something in me said was like, not he was going to be my husband, but he's going to be in my life forever. Like, I felt it, right? Yeah. Then we met. And he was like, he would make up reasons for me to come to his office. So he would be like, can you help me with my phone? And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm not the tech girl. I'm not the phone girl, but okay. So, like, he would make all these excuses for me to come and spend time with him.

And then, you know, I was seeing somebody at the time that I met him, and he was seeing somebody. But we always went to lunch together. We become very good friends first, which I appreciate to this day. Like, that's my guy. Like, we're very good friends. I remember you saying that. And I think that finding someone who's your best friend is, like, integral. Because, like, at some point, you're not going to be, like,

looking at them trying to rip their clothes off all the time. And who's got time for that? Like, you know, it's like, okay. That's going to happen, but not all the time. Exactly. Giselle, you're the fucking best. We're going to wrap it up with one final game. It's called the Seven Deadly Sins.

Seven Deadly Sins. What are you greedy about? Food. All of them. it anything sweet sweet what's your like go-to dessert um anything chocolate who are you envious of Karen's fashion okay okay I know we're playing a game right now but let's talk about that really quickly first of all Karen is like broke right like she's like in beyond debt like she's like in debt

of debt right and it really makes me feel sorry for her because it's like who wants to to be at her age and her husband's age. And you're like in debt, right? And so she buys like all this fake stuff and she thinks that she's fabulous. So like Karen, we know the facade, okay, let's move on. But you understand that like she's going through pain so it sucks that like that pain instead of her dealing with it

is just being projected onto your fashion style? Right, when her, when mine is like, this is a real Gucci sweatshirt. When hers is like, oh, it's, it's, adjacent. It's like Chanel adjacent. What are you gluttonous about? So besides food, is there something that you overindulgent? I would kind of say it's like time. You know, I, if you talk to my kids, they'd be like, mommy is the most annoying thing under the sun because I want to spend time

with them. Like, I'm all in their rooms. I'm climbing up in their beds. So I would say like being with my kids. It's like the thing that I do and, you know, I'm like counting down the days that Grace goes to college because I don't want her to go, but she has to go. And just being with my kids, to be honest with you. And you know what? The pandemic forced me to realize, A, how much I was missing because I was like, never here before the pandemic. And then B, yo, I don't want to go back to that. I want to be up under my kids' armpits. Yes. Yes. I love that. I love that. that. When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath, so anger? When was the last time we got pissed off? At the reunion, I was really pissed. When was the last time you were a lazy sloth?

Like you stayed in bed all day? Never. I mean, I would have to be like before I had kids, like, 16 years ago, yeah. Oh, no, that's not true. That's not true. Okay. So one of my, like, fun things, not fun things, but like when I would travel, like, let's say I'm just going to New York, did you watch what happens live, right? I'll make sure I get there early so that I can put on, like, get into the hotel, put on a robe, get in the bed, and just lay there. Yeah. But I haven't done that in so long because this pandemic. So like I haven't been doing like that whole traveling thing. Oh, my birthday when I turned 50. Would you do? So me and Jamal went to Southern California, like Newport Beach,

Laguna Beach, that area. And because I didn't really want to go out the country. I was scared about the whole, like, is Trump going to say we can't come back in the country? Like, you know, I was just scared. Anyway, so we went to California. And I just, like, laid in the bed, and it was, like, great. But I do feel guilty when I do that.

I feel like there's something else I could be doing. And that's what makes you successful, but it's annoying. to always have that in the back of your head. When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something? Oh, good question. I know. Whether it's your relationships or your work. I don't know, but I can say I have had to work on that.

That's been one of the things that, you know, as I've gotten older, I'm like, all right, I need to kind of work on this because I do believe in greatness, right, in people. So in order for you to get there, you've got to put the pride away and you have to really be a humble person and really appreciate the little things and appreciate what God or whoever you believe in is doing in your life. I believe everybody is capable of being their version of great. Oh, I love that so much. Okay, last one, when was the last time you lusted over someone? So besides Jamal, who's like your celebrity crush? Who are you feeling?

okay all right so like a list okay she's pulling out a list she has a whole notebook yes yes okay so interest is definitely getting it like immediately my panties are coming off it's on I don't care what he's doing you know and the accent I mean just everything it's just like everything okay there's a guy Sergio you know who I'm talking about do you know I'm talking about wait where is he from give me some context okay he plays basketball i'm about to look him up he plays basketball he he is from some other place hold on i'm gonna i'm gonna get to him in a second um and he and so cal you know Sergio Rodriguez no no no Sergio Rodriguez I was just googling I was just Googling okay so as I'm finding him you know um

Cal, my friend. So Cal is like, Giselle, if I ever get the opportunity, I'm going to hook you up with this guy. And I'm like, I'm like, well,

who is he? So he, for years, he'd been telling me about this guy and how amazing he is. And he would always, like, DM me pictures of him.

And I shouldn't really say this because, like, Jamal and Cal are like friends. So it's like, okay, this is all fantasy. This is really not happening.

It's a joke. Yes. All right. So, I'm like, well, who is he? Okay, so he speaks. When he speaks, he has an accent. So, and he's like a chocolate guy.

You know, I like a nice little chocolate brother. Okay. So, um, wait a minute. Okay. Oh, oh, I know exactly you're saying, Sir, Sergei, Sir Jabaka. He's fucking gorgeous. What? His cheek bones are stupid.

And he's dressed kind of like different, you know, when he has on. watch him all the time. Yeah, he plays for the Raptors now. Yes. I stop watching him. Yes. He just got traded or something. He's a beautiful man. Are you kidding me? That's the guy right there. And he's cool about it. Like he's not like. He's not in your face. No, he's so cool about it. He's just like the man. Now, let's get back to Idris for a second. I'm like, I'm talking about him. So I used to live in Baltimore when I was made. and that's when the wire was being filmed in Baltimore. Are you familiar with The Wire?

I know this is probably before your time. No, but it's one of the all-time best shows. Okay. And that was like, Stringerbell was his name, was Idris' name, Stringer Bell. So that was kind of like his first entry into the whole world of acting, I think. Anyway, I used to see the characters all the time around where I lived.

Except Stringerbell. Okay. And I was looking for him. And I would all, anytime I would see like somebody else, I would be like, where's Stringer? Is Stringer here? And I think he didn't live in Baltimore. Like I, like most of them stayed there. He didn't.

But I used to drive around looking for Stringer about. Oh, my God. It's a secret that I'm sharing with the world. I love that. You heard it here first. Straight up restraining order against Giselle. And I used to, I used to tell Jamal, I've been like, Jamal, like, where are you been?

I was like, looking for stringer. You want to go stringer searching with me? String a bell. Oh, my gosh. Well, it's funny because Jamal is such a huge personality and you're a huge personality. Do you ever feel like, were you ever into shy guys in the past? Because I'm similar to you as I'm currently in love with a guy who was a huge personality. And I'm like, oh, we're so similar.

I kind of love that. Yeah. I used to go for shy guys in the past because I thought, I needed a shy guy for me to like feel alive no for whatever reason I've always dated these like larger than like personality people which might be a problem but um um larger than life yeah well but um sherman who everybody has been introduced to via the show is very quiet and laid back and maybe that's why we're not together yeah sometimes you're like at dinner and you're like can you bring up one conversation because I can't be the show pony the whole time. And, and a lot of times, because

everything we do with the talk so much and, you know, our brain and all that nonsense, when I don't have to sometimes, I don't feel like talking. I'm the same girl. Yeah. In the chat room, I don't speak for like three hours. My mom like how to go. I'm like, oh, I don't. That's fine. It's just spot. But I mean, you know, so you need that balance of somebody else that can like take the lead in in the conversation. Yes, I love that. We're going to a party and not feeling pressure to make sure they're okay and knowing they're going to be a social butterfly and you could lay back. Yes, totally. Our final, final question, Giselle, you have flourished in hell. I knew you would, but what advice would you give to the listeners on how to cope with your hell? When you're going through it,

when you're in a dark place, what has helped you? Always like, remembering that it's temporary. That's my mother always told me. Whatever you're going through is temporary. There is going to be light at the end of the tunnel. You don't see it yet, but it's happening. And like, let it go. A lot of times we just, we like get consumed in that moment of whatever we're feeling and thinking.

And you have to let it go. So kind of like the universe can do his job. Yeah, I always believe that if you make the first step out of whatever it is that's bad, God will take care of the rest, but you got to make that. Don't attach yourself or focus on the bad stuff or that's just what you're going to be surrounded by. Let it go. I love that.

Giselle, where can people follow you? Where can people watch you? Give me the goods. How can people buy your shit? Right. Before I give you the goods, we need to talk about your space right here. Like, you had two pictures behind you. I'm like very confused.

You, I'm in bed. I'm in bed. Okay, is this your normal space, Hannah Brown? I love you. And I want you to be the greatest Hannah you can be. Right now, I'm looking at your background and I'm like, this is not your greatest self right here. I filmed chat room at my parents' house because my mom is, you know, an OCD, she loves everything cleaned.

They have a beautiful kid gym. Yeah. Okay, so I inherited this. I'm in Dez's room. They just like put up two random paintings that are way too high and not really aligned. And did I brush my hair this morning? No. But did I come with all my personality? Yes. And that's what matter. Yeah. That's all that is. Let's get mad at Des for this. I'm going to deal with it, but I was dealing with the bathroom and the living room first. Okay. All right. That's fine. All right. So people can find me at Zelle Bryant, everything. Like I'm Giselle Bryant on all my social media stuff. And yeah, that's that on that. Yeah. Amazing. And where can people get your

book. Oh, Amazon. Amazon. What's it called? My word. My word. I love it so much, Giselle. Everyone watch chat room Sundays and Mondays, 1030 p.m. Eastern. We are having the time of our lives and follow Giselle and watch Potomac. Don't sleep on it because you are doing yourself a disservice. All right.

Thank you so much. I'll see you later. And thank you for this time. You're the best. All right. Bye. Bye, Giselle. Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.