Berner Phone - Hannah Ferrier: Being A Yachtie & Secret Panic Attacks

Episode Date: May 6, 2021

Bravo's Chief Stew of Below Deck Med had a rough last season where she was fired... but a lot in her life has changed. She has a man in her life (who was not her original type) and a new baby! She reflects on decisions she's made in her life and the drama that has ensued. She also gives us amazing traveling advice because we all need a vacation.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What's up, guys. We have a very, very special guest today. We are in hell in Australia. Australia. Australian hell today. I've never been there. We're going to hear all about the demons of Hannah Ferrier. Did I pronounce it, right? Faria. fuck i just did this to teresa judice sure you know what i'll change my last name hannah how's that you know the most important thing is is that you have an amazing first name best first name arguably in the world um hannah welcome to hell thank you for having me i always knew i'd end up here one day you started on the sea ended in the fire so i actually was just on your podcast dear diary you're effed and we had so much fun now hannah is the chief stew on below deck mad and an overall just bad bitch and that's why i just naturally kind of feel like i connect with her

i want to know when was the last time in your life where you were effed since that's what your podcast is about literally or figuratively because figuratively it was like um what was it like 24 hours ago, my fucking fiance and mom thought it would be a good idea to take me into the fucking jungle, the oldest rainforest in the world. Do I appear like a rainforest kind of person to you, Hannah? I mean, you survived below deck, but there's actual snakes and stuff. I don't even know what's in jungles. I'm a city girl. No, me too, basically. And the worst thing was, we were in these like freaking expensive eco lodges and when eva was mapping we had to sit on these tiny balcony outside squatting fucking flies and mosquitoes away and i was like you know what

you brought me here the baby is now your responsibility and i am staying just on the right side of drunk for the next two days which i did successfully what's hilarious is how these hipster resorts put the word eco in front of it so it could be like no effort but make it more expensive yeah exactly and then i had to fight to get the remote control for the air conditioning she's like oh no it's all done automatically i was like uh no all right okay they're literally in a hammock in the rainforest and they're like it's an eco hotel a thousand dollars for this eco hammock oh my gosh well was it so it was supposed to be like a relaxing holiday well it was like so this was there kind of like occasionally i like allow him

to get his way just so he doesn't leave me just every now and then he has a tiny taste that he can get something you know his way so that was it so now we are back in a massive marble penthouse by the beach exactly where i'm comfortable we love bonding over terrible relationship advice so that was a good one let him get his way so he doesn't leave you But not too many times. No. Like have a little bit of a balance. Not until he actually gets confident and thinks that he can do it on his own.

Yes. This is very exciting that you've like, after your reality show, you meet this guy, you have a baby, it all happened really fast. Is he the kind of guy you thought would be the father to your child? So the funny thing is, is it actually looks like it happened really fast, but it's like three years in September. So it's not that fast. That's reality TV media stuff where it's like, Hannah, just.

Had a baby with a guy she met two weeks ago. It just left out. She only cooked it for like three months. Yes. So I don't know, to be honest with you, like I guess I had kind of given up on it. I really wasn't holding out any hope that I would find someone that was like crazy enough to father a child to me. So I guess I didn't really think about it too much.

another piece of great bad relationship advice give up just accept it's not going to happen and drink a fucking cosmo with your girlfriends so was he supportive of your reality TV career was it beneficial to your relationship or was it difficult probably more difficult I actually there's like these great screenshots of me and my friend like hounding him after about two weeks of us dating and we were like you need to date like a girl who like wears her sneakers to the office and then changes to like a comfortable one inch kitten heel who like uses recyclable like bags to do her grocery shopping just like fucking pounding

this poor guy um into defeat and we were like i'm not the right person for you you're a lovely you're conservative i am really not so um it was not who I thought I'd end up with, but we kind of keep each other on our toes, so it works. I used to think you had to be ying and yang, like if I'm loud, he has to be shy, but there has to be like a certain similarity that bonds you. But then if you're too similar, it's like everyone inherently hates themselves, so you end up hating them. Yeah. So it's good that you probably have sides of you guys that like you really connect with, but then that difference of how he maybe handles things or sometimes you need someone to slow you down in your later years.

Yeah, no, 100%. And I'm, like, really not a planner. Like, but when you have a child, you kind of have to be. You can't just, like, wake up one morning and life is just, you know, it doesn't work like that anymore. When the baby eats, we'll figure it out. If a real comes near. If she gets super hungry, she'll let me know, okay?

That's what's stressing me out about a baby because it's like the second she pops out. you can't like take a real break from it not to stress you out but yeah you got to like make sure they learn make sure they eat you can't like forget about them i forget about myself all the time why do you think my mother is on holidays with us i would not have my mother on holidays with me in any other circumstance i just want to nap yeah you weren't asked to be on this planet so you get on this planet next you know you have a baby the person who brought you on needs to teach you how to take care of that kid. A hundred percent.

But yeah, it seems like you can't really be a planner, especially if you're the kind of person that does a yachting career. I mean, what got you into yachting? Give me the 4-1-1. So I actually, funnily enough, the last time I was like on holidays with my mom, I was 21 and we went to Europe. And I fell in love with the south of France. So I literally came back and I put into Google,

what can I do speaking English in the south of France? And yachting came up. I'm like, cool, I'll do that. What's your sign? Sagittarius. Yeah. Okay. So did you immediately like it or did you?

Wasn't what you thought it would be? It was definitely not, but I like worked for like this big, like one of the largest Russians arms dealers. So whenever I was doing service, I was like kind of scared I was going to get shot. This prepares you for reality TV drama though. you're like at least i'm not scared to getting shot because someone will get sued you might follow me for drugs on camera but you won't put a fucking AK-47

next to my head so you know you gotta take your wins when you can get them oh my god you're like I've seen worse things on the boat yeah did you ever think that you'd be the kind of person that would be on a reality show like did your friends think that you could be a TV star one day

I think, like, it was so funny because after I, like, my first season, everyone was like, oh, my God, yeah, it makes so much sense. So it, but it was like after the fact. Before they were like, oh, my God, you're just going to fuck up your life, which I probably did in some ways. But whatever, you know, you learn. It's, there's pros and cons. What do you think makes you like, because you were the chief stew, you were the head bitch in charge. What do you think made you successful in that role of also doing it on TV? Like, what about your personality?

you think was good or bad for the role? I think that I'm not like shy to say what I think or how I feel and I don't get pushed. Like if you push me, I will like fucking push you back twice as hard. And the one thing that I think where they were just like, oh my God, was in season one with chef Ben and he got mad because I didn't pronounce a dish properly, but he hadn't told me it. And I just smacked my hand on the counter. I was like, you don't tell me the fucking dishes till they're on the fucking par. Anyway, sorry, give me that shit.

And I'm like, they must have just been sitting, like, in the production room with, like, fucking dollar signs in their eyes going, this chick is great. She's just the right amount of crazy. And also, how did your, like, perspective of being a leader on the show change each year? Because you started to get a following and then you have new people coming in each year. How did you handle, like, the emotional, it's tough? the emotional state of that because you're not your like young bushy-eyed bright-eyed bushy-eyed Hannah coming in first year no no well I think like the thing that some people don't understand

because every season when people when we film together there's always these groups of like five or six of them that turn into really tight group you know you know a tight group of friends and it's like I just was never interested in that because I'm like you guys are my work colleagues I'm at work yeah I want to hang out with you in my personal time like no offense but most people on reality TV kind of fucking have sucky personalities you know there's a lot of assholes in reality TV and I don't want to spend my personal time with them but when they're hanging out and stuff I feel without you I feel like that's when they can they can kind of conspire they can kind of and then the audience can always see that like

there's bullying happening yeah yeah yeah you know they can make it look like you're the one who deserves to be like turned on and stuff like that well yeah And I think there is this, like, massive misconception that if you're a strong female character, you can't get bullied, you know? It's like I think that, yeah, in the media and stuff, we always kind of think it's the weak, you know, it was for me, it was always like the little weak third stew who wasn't doing a job properly and I was the bully. And I was like, you do understand that even just, even being a strong woman in the workplace

or in life, you can still be bullied. I just got chills because it is like not saying you were kind of the top in terms of the hierarchy and when like a woman's doing well and she's at the top it's so easy it's kind of lonely at the top so other people can then kind of get together and feel a type of way about you I mean being a boss you always feel like the people might be talking bad about how you're running it and like they get all clicky they almost bond over their hate for your power kind of thing yeah which is super frustrating but you when you are what what's some advice for female leaders out there on being a good leader or things to not do that make you a sucky leader i think being self-aware is super

important like i worked for a woman who i just felt like if you can just be aware of why you feel your feelings towards me feel them you don't need to like me or anything but just be self-aware of why and then that will allow us to work together better you know if you don't have self-awareness and you try and like almost pull the wool over your own eyes as to why you're feeling certain ways I think that is really really bad it leads to bad leadership how did your anxiety grow or lesson in the five years that you were filming so I had like season one I will never forget this. I don't think I've ever told anyone this. I was like, I had the worst panic attack and I was laying down behind a couch on the boat covering my microphone and I could hear

the cameras trying to find me and I was having an anxiety and a panic attack and trying to just breathe but I didn't want them to hear where I was. And that was probably a sign. I shouldn't I've gone back when you're carrying behind a couch on like day 30 of your new job, maybe leave. Day 30 is a fucking breaking point, I have to say. It really is. So how did that progress? Because anyone who watched, I really wanted to have you on burning hell because you were

caught like with some drugs to help your anxiety. Yeah. And it was kind of turned into like, this is illegal or whatever and you were basically like this is what I use for my anxiety like I'm not here trying to get fucked up and in that moment it was so relatable because so many women men use things to help with their anxiety and it's looked down upon like it's some like crazy drug thing when it's like I mean all of Manhattan is on drugs right now to make themselves feel better even just a little antidepressant that's just the norm so did your anxiety get worse

throughout did you learn how to cope with it differently um i think i definitely learned how to cope with it differently season four i actually had like a confident second stew and a competent third stew who were like not out to get me and i had a really good season um so my anxiety was great that year uh i unfortunately did not lose the standard 20 pounds i usually use when filming but the plus side was like didn't have a breakdown on camera so I just took it

but um when you're happy you're like I'll have another croissant you can't deserve it exactly we're in France bitch I'm going to eat this last season

was okay until all that stuff with Kiko happens because I think like I come across really tough and things like that. But when like I care about someone,

like it literally was like it tears me up inside when I see someone I care about in pain, you know? Yeah. And so I guess as well, like the things that sometimes people don't understand is that when you're filming a reality show like that, you can't say, hey,

I'm worried that we hired somebody that wasn't competent for the job and we've now fucked up his career moving forward in the future. you know like you can't say that because it's not part of the reality world you live in but that was what i was concerned about and that was what he was concerned about that he'd just been fired on camera for being a bad chef and we'd fucked up his life and then the more years you go through it the less you can say like oh i'm just you know a uh a reality person or i'm i'm

you know like i don't know i guess that that just really mentally drains me i remember speaking to josh that night for like an hour and i was just in tears and i was like i just looking in his eyes like killed me and that's when i had the anxiety attack that night so well it's interesting because people hear what you say on reality tv but sometimes it always capture how you feel like this season of summer house it was a situation where it was a pressure cooker like you guys had except we didn't have to work. But we were joking on your podcast. Like I almost, I mean, we had our own jobs,

but it was like every second of the day, we could do whatever we wanted. And I almost wish I had that organization so I could get my mind off of things. Yeah. And like, literally no food would stay in me. Everything was going through me. I was having these like depression naps

and then I have to wake up to do something. And it was like, I just couldn't get away. And then you're with these people and, you know, you start getting really paranoid. Do you have any advice for like when you know certain people are out to get you how you handle it on TV because in real life you're like fuck you guys but in TV you're like wait wait if their shit works I could look really bad crazy yeah and that's what that's exactly what happens is you can end up looking like the crazy one when you're like

I was just like defending a normalcy basically oh my god all the I was so defensive and um but it can yeah but i think you you're good at not always snapping and like keeping your voice in like a you can say real fierce things but in a calm way which i think is a great skill like almost scarier to be honest yeah no i know that's like Josh sometimes like we'll be he'll do something and i'll look at him and he's like oh my god i'm like what he's like stop looking at me like you want to kill me like i don't even need to say anything it's just this like look and I didn't actually realize how bad it was until I watched myself on television I was like oh my god and I think that's why as well they kind of liked me for that role because

in that service position when you have like wealthy clients you can't say fuck you but if my face is saying fuck you I can't do anything about that you know so they'd always kind of know when I was saying fuck you to them without me actually having to say it you have very expressive eyes it's almost like your whole your eyes are holding all your emotions and it but it's I just felt like you're very relatable on the show and that like you're not trying to act like above things are perfect or that you have it all together like you just always seemed like you were in a fight but you were like gonna make it through like you're very strong what would you do on the boat when you felt like you couldn't do it anymore when you felt like you need to jump off the boat

what advice would you give to people so um I am a really big, so I grew up on this tiny little hippie island with no television. We listen to music. My dad and brother were in a band. So music is like a way I express myself. And they, you know, in reality TV, they don't really like you listening to music because unless the music's cleared, they can't use it. And like there's this, you know, so I would like, that would be my like, FU to production is

I put my earphones in and refuse to take them out. and then audio would always know like that you know they have like day shift and night shift guys would come on and I'd be like frantically like cleaning a bathroom or something and they'd be like oh my God and the audio guys are going and they'd be like oh fuck it'll be a long night she's listening to Alanis

okay guys we're out for a fucking wild one tonight Hannah is pissed well yeah you can't do your normal things all the time and are you a social person like do you like being around a lot of people or do you like your alone time because you're forced to be stuck with a lot of people that you don't necessarily love yeah no I really so the thing that is like freaking me out a lot at the moment especially with this like baby that just hangs around all the time like she's really cute she's so clingy like the whole like nipple thing like so cling I know look at her I'm like God why you're so

Stats with me. Stop staring. What do you want? Just fed you. But with like, with doing below deck, we would film for like six weeks a year. And then I would have like stuff to do in the United States and what have you. But apart from that, like that was me done. You know, I had a lot of time on my hands and a lot of time to spend alone and even flying

back and forth to L.A. It was like, you know, a 14, 15 hour flight. So I would chill. I get no time. I'm alone now, ever, ever. This kid is always around. Like, you should, you're not. And the weirdest thing is, like, you'll be, like, exhausted and she'll go down for a nap,

and you'll be like, oh, my God, thank God. And, like, 10 minutes later, you're like, wake up. I miss you. So did you feel that initial connection when she was born? So my labor was 27 hours. So it was disgusting. So you roast yourself out. Everyone's like,

it's so beautiful. I'm like, what the fuck is beautiful about that? Okay. Are you crazy? Did they give you different drugs than me? Because like, there's nothing beautiful about the birthing process.

I'm sorry. Josh is like, oh, he really wants another one. I'm like, okay, if you can. get a surrogate. I'm like, Oprah's like, Canada, that's not legal. You can't just get a surrogate. I'm like Kim Kay did. Do you feel like you love her more than you love yourself? That's what the people say. Oh, 100%. So when we're crossing the road, I make Josh go on the side of the cars and then I make

him in the middle of the road. He has to flip to the other side. So then he's on the side of the cars again because I'm like you are definitely dying before her okay it's like just in case you were confused who I prioritized in this relationship exactly it's her me you when you were little were you bossy yes because I was yeah I was super bossy so like my mom she's actually coming on the podcast this week but she um she was telling us this story of like this I decided to like throw this party and I like manipulated one of the fathers into buying like all the coke and pizza for like all the kids on the island and like through some random person I didn't know a party because I wanted some coke and pizza I was like manipulative and bossy but it's funny

because if you were a dude I would say they'd say you have like great bargaining skills very entrepreneurial you're a great negotiator and you're a go-getter so I'm proud of you but no it's just a bossy little bitch and apparently you were a huge bitch when you were a teenager

yeah what do you think made you such a bitch like what going on in your life do you think got you to bitchdom oh god that's dark um I we're in health we are in health no so I think like I had one of those situations when I was younger where

it was just really fucked up but it was no one's fault so like my brother passed away when I was five he was 10 and my other brother was 13 and like that just fucks up a family you know yeah so there was like a lot of darkness but not like it's not it's not anyone's fault obviously it just kind of is well grief comes in all shapes and sizes and there's no rules to it it's all over the place exactly so i was probably rebelling against a whole bunch of stuff mostly my own feelings probably so how do you feel that now you've like left reality tv you have this incredible guy this family you've created what is your future hold because you're busy you have you have

what do you see for yourself right now? Who is Hannah? So I guess like one of the biggest things I took out of yachting. So like to be honest with you, I don't really understand people who are like passionate about yawning. Like unless you, I really don't get it. Like honestly in the interior side, I'm like, you're just kind of like a busier waitress at sea. You have to like love customer service. That's brutal. You just want to get abused by rich people all day? I know. I'm like, oh, I just love cleaning toilets.

It just really gets me going. I'm like, but you don't need to be like passionate about that side of things. You can be passionate about traveling, about earning money, about saving a deposit for a house, about seeing different countries and all of that sort of stuff. So like, I love what I do now with my training academy, which is helping people who want to get into yachting. Cool. I saw you promoting that. Yeah, it's like I've got these like gorgeous little ducklings at home and I'm like getting them all prepared to go work on boats and travel the world. And like that is such an exciting thing for me because I just feel like, you know, there's so many of my students that are like in these tiny towns in America and things like that and they're actually doing it.

And they're going to go and work on boats. They're going to get out of their small towns. Yeah. So anyone listening, hit Hannah up if you want to learn. It's exciting because you go like, I look at my life and I go, I can't imagine what it would be like without yachting. That was 11 years of my life, you know? So I just think that we, you know, I don't think this is a dress rehearsal. I don't think we're, I don't believe that there's anything really much else out there after we die.

So like, to me, I'm like, this is your life. Go out there, live it. The interior, like, industry is so customer service. And I recently saw a tweet that was really funny. That was like, the funny thing about how the customer is always right saying is that the customer seems to always be wrong. It is so true. And when you're watching below deck, it's like, how do you not punch some people in the throat?

Yeah. No, and it's getting to the stage, like I was watching one season. I think it was season four where you could already. see that I was like getting over it a little bit he's like oh requested oysters there was this douchebag from new york and i like shoved his preference sheet in his place i'm like didn't request oysters and i was like wow hannah you're just getting really pissed off with everything it's so funny to watch it when you're in like a normal mindset to be like how could she everyone's like how could she snap so quickly and it's like you have no idea the pressure that was leading up to that

yeah exactly let's wrap this up with a final game called the Seven Deadly Sins. You're doing great in hell, but I knew if you survived below deck, you could survive this. Seven Deadly Sins. What are you

greedy about? What am I greedy about? Probably like, I'm a really bad wine snob. I'll like go to someone's house and at their wine and be like, Josh, go and get different wine. This is shit. And I don't care about it. So it sounds like you like the finer things in life. Yeah. I'm very particular and I like

what I like and I won't. Josh, it drives Josh crazy because like on a Saturday morning, we have to go to like 17 different places to do our groceries because the ham has to come from one place and the baguette has to come to another and the sliced has to come from here and the bananas like, we have to go in all these different. He's like, you know there's like fucking supermarkets, right? That sell everything. And you're like, but not the exact thing I need. Exactly.

Would you enjoy like going on a yacht as a vacation? I think so, yeah. I just don't know if I would be able to not help them. You'd be looking at it with a different eye. You'd be like, I don't love her technique. I don't love her technique. Who are you envious of? Am I envious of?

So occasionally, very occasionally, I am envious of like, say, Chloe Kardashian just because she can still have these really long nails, which means that she never, ever cleans a diaper. So sometimes when I'm cleaning a really bad diaper, I can be a tiny bit envious of Chloe Kardashian because she doesn't change diapers. I don't comprehend how people have long nails. I did it once. I, like, couldn't shampoo my hair.

I couldn't zip up my coat. I could barely text. I couldn't wipe my own ass. And I just, I don't know. It's a feel thing and I just haven't nailed it. And I got so claustrophobic that I couldn't do anything that I just tear them all off. So that was $60 down the drain. What are you gluttonous about?

So like, what are you overindulgent besides wine? Probably like chicken burgers. Ooh. So not a beef burger. You like him chicken. Chicken everything. I'm obsessed. When was the last time you experienced extreme rations?

or anger? A day ago when I was sitting in a fucking rainforest in a stupid eco lodge. So I also want to ask you in terms of the anxiety that happened in the emotions, did you feel like you were kind of just being shamed for having anxiety on TV? Yeah, I didn't really get it. It was very confusing. Like you see in the scene that I was like fired where she, um, Sandy came down to the bathroom and like open my bathroom door with a camera and I was like zipping myself up and she's like, are you flashing them? I'm like, why would I flash my medication? Like it was so. Yeah, it was just so weird to me. I was like, what are you talking about? Like you're acting like you've just found an eight ball on me. Like yeah, yeah. This is medication. Why would I flush medication down the toilet? Like so yeah, I definitely felt very, like,

like uncomfortable and I also felt very uncomfortable because I knew how many people reached out to me when I had that first anxiety attack so it made me even before I left the boat I was very uncomfortable that that was going to be aired and people were going to be made to feel like they were not normal because they had anxiety and did you feel like that could be used against you at any time or was it like out of the blue it was very out of the blue because I the like the thing with the valium was not new yeah that was not new information to anyone on that boat that i took valium for anxiety so yeah it was extremely out of the blue i think you see my face i was kind of like just like it's been you know noted that you have drugs on board i was like huh

the whole thing seems like just a nightmare like that something happened and you know that you don't have control and then you kind of were just like okay i guess this is happening to me got really pissed off by it oh yeah really pissed off did you think that so many people were gonna take your side so i guess like the biggest thing for me when it was happening was i know it sounds bad but you're almost like i you know how reality tv works and i was like i will not react i will not you can't bait me i'm not it was literally i ended up sitting on the dock and I was having a cigarette and I looked at the camera and I was like hey guys can I get a car it's super hot out here like I'm not and that's why you're a season five veteran because your girl was

reacting all because your girl reacted all somewhere else no because that kind of reaction made people kind of be like wait like it wasn't this like deeper anger thing and yeah because if you had gotten really pissed off and freaked out people like well yeah this bitch is fucking crazy but the fact that you were just calm it was like okay so was there something really wrong here because she's actually been very competent on the boat the whole time should people she goes wow this bitch is crazy she's so crazy she's not letting you see the crazy yeah that's when you know she's crazy when she knows how to hide it the right way oh my god but yeah remember that seemed you being you were stoic i was very yeah i was very very calm but inside

were you freaking out yeah of course i think it would be insane if you weren't you know um but i also just went like to so my mom always brought me up and said like if you know you've done nothing wrong then you don't need to like justify yourself or anything if you know that you're okay and i was like i'm here with my fucking medication and you all know I have anxiety you've all known that I've taken this so like I'm not going to feel like I need to justify anything or fight for anything like I think that Sandy had been wanting to get rid of me for quite a while so it was like her ace up the sleeve you know it's so hard to be in a position where the person of power doesn't like you that would drive me insane

that would because I can't even deal with normal people telling you what to do so the person oh god so when you finally like it all hit you like you got fired did you see the light at the end of the tunnel like did you see it as a blessing or like how long did that take or do you still think like fuck I'm pissed about it um so I still have like stress streams about it yeah um which is like annoying so I'm looking forward to those being over but I think that you're like we could do without yeah exactly that's PTSD yeah oh it really is and but I also think that you know I was pregnant the whole time the season was airing and everything which was probably really good

because I wasn't going like oh my god the episode's airing I want a glass of wine and then it's like five o'clock he mean drinking all fucking day you know it was like I at one I stay calm from my baby so it was probably a blessing in disguise yeah yeah when was the last time you were a sloth so you literally did nothing all day um I think that's about to come today I see it in my near future when you'd get back from doing six weeks on a charter what was your way of relaxing and like detoxing or getting back to like normal um so i was that was coming back into australian summer so i'd do like summer in europe and then i'd come back here for summer so that was very much like i had a friend back then and we just

we were so bad for each other but it was so good like you enabled you yeah and it was like we would just sit there from like four o'clock in the afternoon and just chat shit and drink wine and smoke marlborough lights until like one of us died you know so and we did that summer after summer and then i met josh and i was like oh this is probably healthier but at least you know when you need a wild night you know who to text yeah exactly when was the last time you let your pride or your ego get in the way of something this is a tough one probably with um so you know when you have two people raising a child there is like different points of view and things like that.

So it was probably a situation with Josh where I, like, wanted to be right, but I knew he was right, but I still wanted to be right, you know? So I kind of like push this subject to where he was like, okay, fine, then we'll do it your way. And I'm like, oh, no, I don't want to do that. You're always a right way. I just want to win the actual fine. Oh, my God. When was the last time you lusted over someone besides Josh?

Like, do you have a celebrity? crush or anything oh so who's oh god it's someone's son Clint Eastwood's son oh you know that did oh Scott oh Scott you froze for ages I was like oh this is rare I was talking about how I like older man I was like I'll take Clint oh okay no Scott but then like I follow him on Instagram and I'm he started talking and I just lost my ladywood all together oh what was he saying just utter shit well he's American I'm sorry I do have to say when I dated my first British guy he introduced me to the concept of of good chat and shit chat and like I feel like Australia and

and the UK they like cherish the art of conversation more than Americans where Americans will never talk they'll be like oh they're cool they're not cool but like no one embraces like are you good at quality chat and like i don't know as a podcaster i love a quality chat so yeah finding those people that you could have an easy banter with is so important um also when we get quarantine when quarantine is over you are the queen of travel where are some places that people before they die need to go so josh has his 40th next year so we want to do south of france like a big villa in south of france for that but i've got a lot of friends there and I live there for ages, so that's a given.

Positano in the Amalfi Coast is gorgeous. Turkey is really amazing. It's a beautiful country and it's got some of the most gorgeous waters in the world. Mayorka is really beautiful, which we just filmed in. And I loved Cuba. Ooh, I haven't been to any of these places. Yeah, I think we are, but I haven't, who knows what we're allowed to do anymore? you're like are americans allowed to do anything anymore

no one should let us in anywhere at this point Hannah this has been such a pleasure I like to wrap up all my pods with asking you the final question because you've been to hell and back to Australia back it to hell it was longer than Australia to come back what do you do ultimately to cope with your hell when you're in your darkest place what advice would you give to people besides listening to great music

I like to do lots of, like, if you just go down to the beach, if you know a beach and walk, I like to walk and pretend I'm walking away from my problems. I love walking because you don't actually get tired, but you feel like you're working out. Yeah, exactly. I'm not going to like get sweaty, but I don't feel like I just binge-watched fucking Netflix all day either. Yeah, yeah. It's a nice, happy medium. 100%.

Well, Hannah, where can people follow you, listen to you, and just have more Hannah in their life. So it's Hannah Ferrier 2, 3,4 on Instagram. It's also Hannah's podcast. We've got Deirdari, Your Act, which was so much fun with you last week. Thank you for coming on. So much fun.

And yeah, then if you're interested in getting into yachting, there's Ocean International Training Academy and everything's at the link in my bio on Insta. I'm about to be a yachti. Hannah, you would fucking hate it. You would hate it. I don't do well with authority. I spill everything.

I talk with my hand, so I knock everything down. And I have short-term memory loss. Yeah, I'd be the worst. And I'm not that great at swimming. Well, then you should probably go in cast to below deck. You sound like a perfect third's true. Oh, my God. I would crush a thirds two.

Everyone would hate me. I'd be like flirting with like one of the dumb bosons. And yeah. And then I'd oversleep every fucking day. I got yelled at on a vacation house for oversleeping. So just imagine what had happened in below deck. Oh, my God. Hannah, you're amazing.

I can't wait to visit you in Australia one of these days. It's on my to-do list. We'll have brecki, avocado toast, chattes. Thanks for listening, guys, and I'll talk to you in hell later. Bye. Ha ha ha ha.