Berner Phone - Is This Normal? (with Katie Boyle)
Episode Date: May 4, 2026This week, Des is joined by comedian Katie Boyle to decide if the Little Dialers are weird or normal. FOLLOW KATIE: Website: https://www.katieboylecomic.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ka...tieboylecomic/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@katieboylecomic YouTube: www.youtube.com/@katieboylecomic THE SHIFT PODCAST: Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-shift/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5rS2HPgLII06KMcb3De198?si=80823f77dadd40ef YouTube: https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLM6mVEnpWVhGMz-pQ-5fypqGRiG6_edtQ&si=V9nyqAfwjd8dgnyg Leave us a voicemail: https://telbee.io/channel/msnxcnbe39nmb9rpvbi_eq/index.html FOLLOW DES: Tickets: https://punchup.live/desbishop Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/desbishop Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/desbishop X: https://x.com/desbishop YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Desbishopcomedy TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@desbishop5 FOLLOW HANNAH: Tickets: https://hannahberner.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannahberner/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HannahBerner X: https://x.com/beingbernz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hannah_berner Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialhannahberner/ FOLLOW NICOLE: https://www.instagram.com/nicoleclyons/ Produced by Nicole Lyons Productions Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolelyonsproductions/ Website: www.nicolelyonsproductions.com
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It's Hannah Burner and Des Bishop.
Thanks for calling the burner phone.
If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast.
Hello, our little dialers and welcome to Burner Phone.
We have a very special guest today on Burner Phone.
Me old mate, Katie Boyle, is on the pod today.
Thanks for having me.
And very late that I contacted you because I was very unorganized and didn't actually.
actually realized we were recording today. And luckily, you were available. How are you?
I'm good. Yeah, thanks. This should be fun. You know the drill with Burn a Phone, right? You know how
it all works? You guys give advice to people who call in?
Advice is only some of the time. It's like themed. So, like, today's theme was things that you
thought were normal until you move somewhere else and realize that it was different, which actually
when I thought of the prompt,
I immediately thought
would be great if Katie was available
because she's had the fish out of water experience,
the opposite way to the one that I had
when I moved to Ireland.
But for those that don't know very quickly,
Katie and I had a podcast together for years
called The Shift. Do you still have The Shift, Katie?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I do. I do.
I actually have to un-private some of the episodes
because when I was going for my citizenship,
I privateed a load of episodes.
I was like, I don't know what I've said.
I don't know if it fits up with what I'm saying here.
So are you a citizen now?
I'm a citizen now since, yeah.
Wow.
Yeah.
Oh, great.
So now you don't have to worry about your political commentary.
I don't know.
Trump said that he's thinking about taking it away from naturalized citizens.
If he does that, that's fine.
I'll leave at this point.
At that stage, it's not worth fighting for.
All right, cool.
Yeah.
So Katie and I had the shift, which was like a sex podcast.
but it was kind of, it was lighthearted and silly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, it was great.
I feel like I learned loads of some of the guests we had on.
Yes, we did actually have some very interesting guests.
So, you know, since Hannah's left on Burnfield, sometimes I do it on my own.
But recently, we've had some more co-host.
And to be honest, I'm kind of, I've gotten addicted to the co-host.
So today, when I was like, oh, shit, we're recording.
I was like, I can't do this on my own.
I need help.
Yeah, I know.
I sometimes will do the odd solo episode.
but I'm just, I always feel like I'm rambling and then I'm like, ugh.
I don't think I know that I'm rambling.
I know that I'm having these long drawn-out rants.
But anyway, so today's theme was things that, you know, you thought were normal.
But actually, Nicole, if we could, there was this first, there's a story that was related to something I posted on my Instast stories.
Can you play that one first?
To respond to your story.
hand. I take up my retainer. No, I don't want to list. To respond to your story, it's kind of
hard to tell, obviously, when someone is paying attention to their phone or pretending to
pay attention to their phone because, you know what, I will be completely honest. I have done that
where I'm walking my dog and that poop is looking real ripe, right? And I don't want to pick it up.
So I'll pretend I'm on my phone and think, oh, my dog just.
She peed, and she didn't.
She took a big doogie.
So, just wanted to let you know.
Could have for sure been purposeful.
Should you have said something?
Maybe.
But if it was me, I would be really embarrassed if you said something.
So maybe it was good that you did it.
And there's way dear to your things all around us.
So that's really not the worst thing.
That's, I guess, in public.
I didn't know.
She had very long.
So for those that don't know.
the context of this.
And the reason why I included this message was because I think it was actually the most
responded to InstaSoria I have ever put up on my Instagram ever.
Like I literally like almost was annoyed at myself because I sort of, my DMs got out of
control.
So for those that don't know, I was sitting down post-knee surgery, by the way, in a coffee
shop outside.
And this guy had the dog and he was like on the phone kind of distracted and the dog, like he
stopped.
obviously the dog was shitting he stopped and then after the dog finished pooping he just walked
on and left the poop like right in front of me and my dilemma that i posted on my insta story was
like should i have said something like what do you think about this oh i think both and i don't even
believe in prison and i think both of those people should go to prison i'm sorry i think that is oh
i was on my phone i don't care pick up your dog poo this is crazy oh there's worse things outside
not really like the odd rap but why do I have to live with rats and dog poop on the floor then I don't
understand oh I would have been embarrassed yeah you should be we should be throwing tomatoes at you
I'm sorry I have such a beef with this I know yeah so I was like because I think there was a time in
my life where I would have said something but like and by the way he wasn't like an intimidating
looking guy or anything but I guess partially because I was running on one leg but also I just kind of like I don't
I just wasn't in the mood for like even the slightest amount of confrontation about the thing.
But I also can't abide by, like leaving your, leaving the dog poop is like, it's very rude.
Oh, 100% and someone else is going to walk in it.
And like, I have cats.
They have a litter box.
I clean it out.
I don't go bring it outside and sprinkle it on the street just because I don't walk them in the street.
like honestly I can't I just but also if you were to say something I guess that's so New Yorker
because I would have never said something in Ireland but now I'm a New Yorker and I'm like eh you miss
something you forgot to pick up something so you would have said it would you have said it I'm gonna get
shot one of these days like I've gone such an attitude lately I probably would have been like or I might
have tried to be nice and be like oh I don't know if you notice but your your dog poop and I probably
would have I can't control it's already out of my mouth before I've thought it true well what I was
going to, the vibe I would have taken, which like I stopped myself was basically like, I don't know
if you notice when you're on the phone, the dog took a shit. But, you know, I was just so worried about,
I just, I don't know. I, you know, I also was like on like still on painkillers and probably
more relaxed than normal. So anyway, I was, I really, the reason why I wanted to talk about on the
pod was because it's a very, people are very passionate. And by the way, it was like 98% were like,
should have said something.
Like, most people weren't like, hey, you might have got shot, so it was better not to say
something.
Everybody was like, you're weak.
I mean, I set it up that way.
By the way, comedically, they were saying this, because I set it up that way to say, like,
am I just a weak?
Have I failed the community by not, you know, that was my, that was your moment, you know,
when good men do nothing, that's the fall of society.
Oh, but you know what?
Now that I'm thinking about it, also, it's not your job to, like, teach someone
how to be. So that's the other thing. It's a huge emotional labor to kind of be like, did you not
learn that from your parents? Like, my dad would have thrown a shoe at me. What's happening?
Like, I don't, yeah, so that's the other thing. It's kind of like, and then if you do, you'll say it
nicely. And then he might be like, well, he might curse at you or whatever. But, you know, the next
person, if you don't teach him, the next person is going to punch him. So. Now, this was in Miami.
I feel like there's a little bit of a lack of dog poop etiquette. I've seen more.
dog poop down here in general.
Hilariously then, a guy that I've gotten to know down here
messaged me like five hours later on Instagram with a picture of the poop
saying it's still here.
See that?
And then it's heating in the sun.
Cooked poop.
I can't.
Now, have you ever?
So you don't have dogs right here, but you're dogs back in Ireland, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I have been in a situation where, like, I realize when the dog poops,
that I actually forgot the bag or like sometimes like the bag falls.
You know, there's just times that you can forget the bag.
Like I've literally gone to, got the dog home, got a bag,
and come back out to get the poop.
But in the interim, you look the same as the guy.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but you know now that that guy never came back because there's evidence.
Well done.
She watches the crime documentaries.
I'm a poop detective.
All right.
So anyway, there was also a great prompt suggestion that I thought might get people messaging in.
So before we get into the actual subject of the day, can you play that one, Nicole?
I have two good prompt ideas.
I don't know if you did the first one, but it would be what would your sport or your Olympic sport be?
That's not actually a sport.
For example, I'm really good at finding a parking spot in a very very,
full parking lot. I have a strategic way on how I kind of pull around and like see when people
leave and stuff and always beating others that are looking for parking spots. I'm always really good
at beating them to it. And then the other one would be what would your alternate reality,
I guess, job? What would it be? That's like completely opposite of what you currently do.
For example, I am one year away from being an official pharmacist, and I feel like in another life, I was definitely a comedian or in another life I could definitely be a comedian.
So something like that.
Okay.
Well, one, I would agree that in another life you could have been a comedian because it was a very creative prompt idea.
It was like a good premise.
Yeah.
Like the Olympics of, like I feel like there's a, that's the beginning.
beginning of a strong comedic premise.
Honestly, my Olympic sport would be, and this is disgusting, and I hate being disgusting,
but I'm actually like one of the fastest pooper is that anybody knows.
Like, I really am incredibly fast pooper.
So I feel like in the poop Olympics, like for sprinting, obviously, I'm not talking about,
I wouldn't be like a heavy lifter.
I'm not talking about size.
I'm talking about speed here.
I'm incredibly, I am the Usain.
bolt of pooping.
This is a very poop-heavy episode for you.
It's poop.
It's just in general.
It's poop-heavy.
We don't know why.
I married actually a poop-positive person.
It's very poop-positive here on Burnaphone.
Any off the top of your head?
I do think it's a fun.
I'm not going to dedicate an episode to this, but I do like when prompt suggestions
come in on the actual voice notes because it's like a fun thing to get you thinking.
But does anyone pop out on top of your head?
I think for me doing everything bar what I meant to be doing.
So if I have to like write something, like my manager asked me,
oh, do you send over this writing?
That's the first time I'll clean my apartment in like months.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Well, that's that's in general.
David O'Dardy many, many years ago, I'm sure he won't mind me saying because it was like
one of his earliest jokes that his, I can't remember the name of the song was something
like very minor.
superpower, but his superpower was
that no matter where he went
in somebody else's house, he always
knew where things were in the kitchen.
Oh, that's so fun. He always knew which
cabin at the open.
Anyway, funny, what was the second one?
Oh, by the way, she was talking about
finding parking spot in the parking lot.
I feel like we need a law
which says if you have like a very
compact car
that you need to not pull in deep into the
parking spot, you need to not tease
particularly if it's a busy parking lot.
Like stop teasing me with, I think I found a spot and it's like a Fiat Cinquechento or whatever.
That's like with men, a load of men now wear those running shoes just as regular shoes,
but it's because there's a big platform on them.
Oh, oh, really?
Yeah, because I'm like, you don't run.
You don't, like, you're not a marathon runner.
Why are you wearing these runners just as style?
But they have a big platform.
So it's kind of like that a bit, isn't it?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but because like finding a spot, particularly like, have you ever, Nicole, you can join in on this if you want,
have you ever been driving around Manhattan with a visitor looking for parking?
It is one of the most frustrating experiences of all time because there was like, what about that?
And you're like, it's a high.
She's like, what about that?
No, it's not good until after six.
That's me.
Just don't suggest, okay?
A very complicated system we're in here.
It takes years to figure it out.
And some never figure it out.
I'll let you know when we actually might have a spot.
All right.
Let's get into the actual prompt here.
Hi.
So I'm from Louisiana.
My boyfriend's from the Midwest.
And so there's a couple of things that I say that he, like, was always so surprised at first.
I say, like, you know, whenever you fall down.
and you scrape your knee and you have like a little wound, I would always call that a bobo.
Like, oh, I got a bobo. Oh, no. And he would call it a boo-boo, which I guess works, but I don't know.
And then like another thing that I guess I say and my mom says and my family, like, you know,
when someone's in the other room and you're like, oh, come see, come see, like come here, come see.
I like my first like instinct would always be to say come see but he like still to this day makes fun of me
like we just went to see his friends and he was laughing about it with them and making fun of me and
I don't know is that normal or no I don't know I mean I feel like she's wrong twice
I'm joking obviously but I feel like it's a very American thing though like uh
to sort of say, to knock context clues and be like, oh, that's so weird the way you say that.
Hearing that they do that to each other is like kind of great because I'm like, obviously
there's context clues.
Like with my ex, I was like, can you put this in the press?
And he was like, what?
But I was holding a cup.
I was hardly saying put it in the feck and toilet.
But it's really like validating.
By the way, most of the listeners don't know what a press is right now as you're saying.
Well, I bet you they can context clues because of the cup.
And if they can't, you're American.
You're an American man.
No, because I remember,
I used to have a joke about the press, you know,
because the press is a cabinet.
But anyway, well, yeah, but I don't think,
I think they're getting,
I don't, I think in this situation he's getting the context,
he just thinks it's weird what she's saying, right?
True, true, yeah.
So here's my question.
Do you, in Ireland, did they say boo-boo?
No, we say neither of those things.
Also, how many times did these people fall in down
that they had to say,
I've never, I don't know, I'd just say, ouch.
No, no, like, oh.
Like, no, like a boo-boo is like a cut or like a bruise.
No, though, that's real baby talk, isn't it?
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it is generally baby talk, but like, here's the thing.
And to me it was always boo-boo.
She says, Bobo, which I, is that's the thing in the South?
I'm learning this now, which is, that's what's so fascinating about this.
You are right.
It would be if you were talking a kid, like saying they have a boo-boo.
Boo Boo, right?
Yeah, still boo-boo, yeah.
Okay, Bobo I'd never heard.
And actually, come see.
I've also never heard.
It would be like, come here.
I mean, obviously, come see.
I know what they're saying.
But that must be either a Southern thing
or just an in-her house thing.
But I would never, I don't make fun of people.
Hannah makes fun of me when I bang out the Irishisms
because I forget, you know?
But like, or, you know what she does?
She corrects my pronunciation sometimes on words.
And I'm just like, yo, bro,
not a correction. It's not wrong. It's just different. I know. I say that to people all the time
when they correct me. I'm like, actually, I don't speak your English. I speak a hiberno English,
which is based off Irish. So go fuck yourself. Katie, since we've chatted, I feel like you've
enjoyed confrontation a lot more than you used to. Finding everybody. No, but it is true.
Like, no, because obviously sometimes it's like, it's like annoying. But here's the thing. I dealt with
that for the first two or three years of my life.
Ireland. People telling me I was wrong, you know, and then you get used to another way. Then you
come back here and people are saying. But like a lot of times like Hannah will be like, no,
that's not how it's pronounced. And I'll have to Google. It's actually shocking. More subtle
ones. I can't even think of any off the top of my head right now, but just like subtle pronunciations
that you don't realize are the difference between like British and Irish pronunciation and
American pronunciation. I can't think of any like off the top of my head. And obviously it makes
sense Hannah's saying it to you because she's your wife.
Yeah, it's not like we're not having to find about it.
Yeah, like strangers will say it to me.
Like when I used to work in the bar, they would point out.
But I think it's just, it is because it's based off Irish.
So like how the T is pronounced is coming from the Irish line.
That's why they say it's like hiberno because it's like technically a completely different.
Not completely different, but it's coming from like we've an extra tense that they don't say in regular English and all of that.
But because of.
So yeah, so it's just a different.
But now Morr Higgins is making.
the whole TH thing famous.
I know.
Which I'm not sure.
Like, I don't mind it per se, but it's just kind of gotten weird how that's now like,
like in every interview.
By the way, I'm pro.
More Haigens.
I'm not.
Me too.
I love her.
I'm always been a fan.
But like, I kind of like, she's now leaning in hard to the fact that they all think it's
hilarious that she says tink.
So to me, it's kind of a little weird because I'm like, I'd never taught that it was weird
when you said it. It's just the way that, you know?
I do feel in a way like they've obviously told her lean into this.
And I always find it weird when people try to do that to me.
Like someone recently was like, oh, now's the time to ham up the accent.
And I was like, yeah, I'm not going to do that.
You don't have to because to them it's hammed up already.
Yeah, like no one would understand.
What if I didly eyed across the stage?
But yeah, so I do think they've probably been like, okay, this is.
the thing that's like different about you and lead into it. And in fairness, at least she's not
doing extra extra. It's not like she's putting shamrocks on her head or yeah. No, it's just more
to tincting. And she does, she has a strong rural accent, which is always been one of the kind
of comical things about Mora. And I think this is probably a judgment, but I think it's a fair one.
Her accent doesn't match like her hotness. You know what I mean? Like, because she has like a
strong rural. You should go to Lomford. They're hot in Lomford. The women. Yeah, but you know, she never like a lot of,
but a lot of the influencer types. Their accent softens. You know what I mean? They change their
accents. Yeah. A lot of people modify their accent throughout their life and she never has. I mean,
she is a she is as bogger as they come on the telephone. It's so, it's so great. I love her so much.
And it's just such good representation for another part of Ireland. Because you're right. A lot of the
influences are usually like Dublin or. So go for her.
her. It's nice. Katie's dad lives in Longford, by the way, in case anybody was wondering why
Katie has a big Longford pride here. I played for Bali Moore really bad. I was a sob, but you know.
So, yeah, I mean, I think there's a lot of examples with the words. I can't, I can't think of any
like my dad always called us scallywags. Oh, yeah. Is that why people don't say that here?
I don't know. I'm actually kind of asking.
Like, Nicole, do you know the term scallywag?
Yeah, but I feel like it's more, like, for me, it's pirate adjacent.
Like, that's kind of like pirate language.
Right.
Oh, not your children. Okay.
Not your kids. Yeah.
And then there's a few words, because I've talked about this with Hannah's mom.
There's a few words that, like, I think, are kind of gone out of fashion.
like my we would always say oh my dad would always say like oh you're you're such a scotch
scotch yeah scotch you know um oh why you're so scutchy
do you see you guys don't know that no yeah i do that was something for sure my mom had
in the vocab yeah i think that that must be an american thing it's just like this is great
i've got like two sides of the atlantic on my on my screen right here um
And then, anyway, more will go ahead.
Well, two more, because there's also, we put, we say like, oh, put the kettle on, put the dinner on.
Yes.
And that's always confusing for Americans.
Really?
Yeah, I didn't realize that comes from Irish because they wouldn't say that that way.
Right, yeah.
And then the other one was when she was saying come see, I had trouble with that one because I said to a friend, she was like, I'm not ready to go downstairs yet.
We were in hotel and I said, that's cool, follow me down.
And she was like, I'm not ready.
And I said, yeah, follow me down.
Oh, right. And she was like, I keep telling you I'm not. And I was like leaving the door. I'm like, yeah, like, when you're ready, later, follow me down. And she thought I was being like, come now.
Right. Yeah. See, I would never, I'm the worst because I don't even know half the time which side of the Atlantic I got the statements from, you know? All right, let's get some more. If any more pop into my head, I'll think of it. Let's take another, Nicole. I don't know about you, but I like keeping money where I can see.
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and I breastfed her when she was an infant and every now and then I would have a mom's
night out with drinking or I would just like have a day out I would be away
from her and I would have to like pump milk and either after drinking or if I don't have a way
to like properly store the milk instead of dumping it out I would just drink it like why would
I dump it out why would I waste it I worked really hard making that and then I made a Reddit post
like does anyone else drink their milk and yeah I'm I'm afraid that's a unique experience
on my part I when I saw this I was like
Like, yeah, this is this is not even geographical.
This is just, it's crazy, right?
I would not drink my milk, but I don't even drink cows milk.
I also get grossed out by my own body.
Like, you know, like your belly button gives me the hebi-jeebies.
So I couldn't be drinking my titty milk now.
Yeah, that's amazing that she thought that was like, I mean, I, honestly, I left this in because I just was really fascinated.
I didn't have anything to add.
I just, and I love the matter-of-factness of it.
too. I want to be her though. I hate waste. I want to be like that. That's great. Oh my God,
though. Like, self-sufficient. You got to have a kid just to feed yourself. If I liked the taste
of it, I'd be fucking making sure my boobs are going for the rest of my life. Because once you stop
breastfeeding, that's when they dry up. But she should just keep going. If she likes free milk all
the time. Yeah, she could have just, she could have just expressed. But I think she was just like not
trying to waste it as opposed to like craving it. But that's no. Oh, she could put it in
Bonds, bake it.
Breast milk.
Wasn't that a thing with a breast milk ice cream?
But then it turned out it wasn't actually breast milk.
Wasn't it like a thing?
I don't know.
I know on Friends, they did a whole thing where they were tasting the milk.
But yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I thought it was hilarious.
I just thought it was a funny thing.
But that's the thing about Reddit is if you want to find out, if you're a weirdo.
But I would say the more common experience is once you put it out there, you'll realize you're part of a huge community.
of people, like my other people.
But this one was definitely quite unique.
But hey, hit us up in the Spotify comments.
If you indeed were somebody who used to like to imbibe your own breast milk.
Let's take another, Nicole.
I like to dip my French fries and my milkshakes and then eat them covered in milkshake.
It's delicious.
I've had some people look at me like I was a freak for doing that.
But then I've met other people who enjoyed doing that as well.
So I am curious, is that as widespread as I grew up thinking that it was?
Yeah, I actually, I encountered the French fry milkshake people, and I thought that it was disgusting.
But I do like sweet and savory, but I felt like here's two really nice things that you're ruining by putting them together.
Yeah, I haven't done it, but I also just put things together that I think taste nice, that should.
should have no reason being together.
Like, I have no food right now.
So I just ate tuna mixed with mixed trail.
Like, like, like a mixed trail nuts.
Oh, right, yeah.
And I put beats in it and feta cheese and mayo and hot sauce.
But it's just because it's all I had in the fridge and I just mixed it all together.
But I feel like that could work.
I mean, essentially, well, because you put like walnuts.
Like, I don't, if you got like a salad and he swole.
right that's like true if i had less it'd be better it'd make sense right so essentially you just had a
salad nisua but instead of just because don't some people put walnuts in a in a salad nisua don't
they yeah yeah so essentially it's not as weird as it kind of sounds when because you're scavenging
in your own apartment which i've done many times you know you're like you're making dinner out of
actually just out of curiosity uh Nicole can you find the one that's
says rice and something else
I don't want to give it away
because this is kind of
this kind of together
Hey what's that you guys?
Oh it's a guy.
Something that I thought was
normal that I didn't find out was
apparently weird until later is
when I was a kid
maybe this is a four person snap
When I was a kid we would make
plain white rice
and then mix in peanut
butter with it and make like rice
and peanut butter balls and apparently
that's fucking disgusting.
So do with that what you will.
I mean, yeah, I wouldn't want it, but I'm not a big peanut butter fan.
Right, yeah.
See, I like peanut butter.
And I have to assume, I guess, if you just mix peanut butter with rice, you just kind
of get lumpy peanut butter.
Like, there's not a ton of flavor on rice.
So you're just getting, like, I feel like you're just getting peanut butter with, like,
extra carb.
Yeah, and I guess there's those rice desserts.
It's not too far off.
that. I used to have rice and mayo and ketchup and that was it. Rice, mayo and ketchup? Okay.
Like, but not out of necessity. Like, not out of a... No, it was necessity to probably, but it was taste nice.
Yeah. I mean, I was never, I've put together, when I was in college, like, I would have, um, like,
just beans and pasta, you know, just like, because it was like, would dampen the pasta and it were just, like,
And I used to make a lot, just like, you know, a jar of, you know, sauce with tuna fish and pasta.
So I used to call it a tuna banez, but obviously, but like it really was actually quite tasty.
Yeah.
Like it was fine.
Yeah.
So, you know, listen, the milkshake French fry thing, I think, I think it's actually like kind of common.
and maybe there is that thing of like the saltiness kind of accentuates.
In a way, it's kind of like sea salt and dark chocolate.
Like when I first saw that, I thought it was like the dumbest thing ever.
But actually it does kind of.
It does work.
It does work.
You know?
So I'm willing to think that the French fried milkshay thing kind of works,
except that to me, before tasting it, it feels like you're spoiling it, you know.
Well, also, it isn't like some rom-com.
definitely seen it in a film before. So it's not completely, not normal if it's in a film.
Oh, so you've seen that before? Definitely. Yeah. I've a, I've a scene in my head. I just can't
remember the film. But was the scene like, what, are you, are you, are you, or? I don't think so.
I think they were just like, oh, they were just doing it. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of food stuff that
some people think is weird and, you know, I'm not going to get into pineapple and pizza relax.
Love it. Yum, yum, yum. I know. I've had so many. I've just gone too hard on the pineapple and pizza to
to bore the listeners with another pineapple and pizza rant.
But there are weird combos that are fine for some people and disgusting for others.
I did put watermelon in the tuna as well.
I forgot that one.
See, I don't like fruit by itself.
It gives me like, it makes my mouth feel weird.
I don't like it.
But I like it in stuff with sauce.
So that's why I like pineapple and pizza, because I don't like it by itself.
But in that, yeah.
Right.
So you put pineapple in your tuna, mayonnaise.
I put watermelon this time.
Oh, sorry.
watermelon, tuna, mayonnaise, trail mix, hot sauce, fat a cheese, beets.
And are you just anti-UBer Eats?
Like you just wouldn't?
No, I do a lot of Uber Eats.
But it was such an immediate hunger that you needed to put together this like witches brew.
Yeah, it was like 20 minutes before the podcast.
Oh, yeah.
It's like Hansel and Gretel and a watermelon.
and a bag of trail mix.
It's just good I didn't have any chocolate
or that would have went dead as well.
That is pretty crazy.
All right, let's take another Nicole, please.
So I grew up in a very conservative, Christian,
a very religious, I would say, household.
On top of that, I was also homeschooled.
So you can imagine the brainwashing ran very deep.
and it was up until I was in my early 20s, I would say, early to mid-20s, that I decided that I was not
going to believe in hell any longer and that I didn't believe that human beings would be going to
a place to burn forever if they didn't say a certain prayer to God. So yeah, maybe that's a little bit of
religious trauma coming out, but that's something that I realized is not a normal way to spend
your childhood, fearing that you're going to burn in a fiery pit for eternity if you don't do
something the right way. So yeah. The reason I left this in is because somebody messaged me
on Instagram, and I can't say for sure, but somebody messaged me on Instagram and said,
I have one, but it's not funny. And I was like, send it in. It doesn't have to be funny.
And I feel like it was this one, because it came in very soon.
after that. And I was like, yeah, okay, like very intense. But also pretty important because,
like, do we ever just like stop for a sec and talk about the fact that we like created the
concept of eternal damnation? Like for kids to be afraid to do shit that's wrong. And then we
kind of forget to be like, oh, this is similar to S-A-N-T-A, just in case. You know, sometimes people
listen to the car. This is similar to S-N-T-A.
There's like a certain age where you're supposed to be like, oh, by the way, you know that was bullshit.
But like, we don't.
And then as a result, you get like people talking about like the devil and possession and demonic forces in like normal discourse.
You know?
Yeah.
No, it's mental.
It also is like for that woman, that's so nice that she was able to change.
Break out of that.
Yes.
Yeah.
Because it is that level of religion where if I don't.
don't do this, something bad will happen. That's OCD. That's not religion. That's OCD thoughts and
you've just spread it on to other people. You're just mentally unwell. But yeah, that's not,
that's not even, if God is real, that's not even, he's not going to be like, yeah, you didn't
say the prayer. Like, that doesn't even make sense. So I just think that's just a collaborative mental
illness. Yeah. Well, I mean, but like, because I, like, you know, you were raised pretty Catholic,
right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, like in school and stuff, we did the whole,
a baptised confirmation, communion, all of that.
But I, and I love Jesus. I have a cross. I think he's a legend.
But I don't really believe in any of it. I just believed that there was a cool guy who was like,
let's help each other and be kind to each other. And then people changed and twisted that
to control people. So, yeah. Well, I think I was raised more Catholic than you, actually, Katie.
Because, like, I definitely, like, like, I feared hell as a child.
100% and and I was like aware of like sin and all that stuff and and sort of like kind of I can't
remember when I just was like oh hell's bullshit you know but it was definitely that my my sort
of understanding that hell was nonsense definitely came earlier than realizing that the rest
of it may or may not also be nonsense you know I don't like to get too deep into that kind of
I don't want to yuck anybody's yum, shame anybody's beliefs.
But, you know, the rest of it faded for me afterwards.
But I don't think soon after.
But I also, like, so I have five God children.
I can't remember if I've told this story before or not,
but as a result, I've had to be, I've been at five baptisms.
And like, when the kid is getting christened,
like they still, the God parents still have to renounce Satan and all his works.
like you still have to
like in modern day Catholicism
like we're still renouncing Satan
you know yeah
I mean I'm still baptizing my kids
so there'll be people
are you saying of course
why
well just in case
I'm all talk
but you know
I'm not risking it
I used to have a joke about the
you know the way
Irish people so
it's hard to get into all the
context. My Irish material just works for Irish people because you don't have to fucking explain it.
Irish people, they bless themselves a lot more than Americans. Like even American Catholics.
Like so Irish people, after they have communion, they always bless themselves. Irish people,
they pass an ambulance, they bless themselves, pass a church, you bless yourself,
past a cemetery, you bless yourself, right? But most people in Ireland have really developed
to kind of like a speed bless yourself where you kind of just like tap, you kind of like,
you set a tap your chest three times, tap, tap, tap. I do this with the cross sometimes.
I tap it or I kiss it.
I just go.
Yeah.
So I used to say tap, tap, tap, tap, which became like Morse code for the nonbelievers like me
that have kind of stopped believing but haven't totally let go of the fear.
So it's like tap, tap, tap, tap, just in case you believe in me, tap to tap tap.
It's like, hey, you know, just in case you're up there, I'm still tapping it.
So you're going to baptize for the just in case.
Yeah, yeah.
So let me just, now just coincidentally enough,
since we're talking about damnation,
just in case what?
The baby soul goes to hell.
I was about to say, like,
just in case what,
like the die?
It doesn't get buried in a,
in a consecrated graveyard?
Well, because when you think about it,
well, because I think,
I don't know if I still have it,
but I think I just probably had OCD as a kid
because of the environment.
Like I had a lot of these, like,
oh, if I didn't touch wood
if I didn't put my shoes straight anyway.
But when you think about religion,
it comes into play when you have a kid
because if something happened to that kid,
you want to know that they went somewhere else.
So I think for me,
I would just let my head spiral,
at least then I can go to myself,
oh, well, the kid's in heaven,
even though I don't necessarily believe in that.
I think it's all about, like,
it comes down to when it's like morality.
We just want to...
Catholic anxiety right there.
Because like,
because here's the thing,
do you want to believe
in a god that's like oh sorry you can't get in your mother forgot to fucking baptize you like is that
yeah no i don't i don't think that's real i don't think i just by the way i'm sorry it's just
it's just a funny it's kind of a funny just in case you know yeah i know but you know
just in case i don't know you want the day out yeah exactly i'm not even getting married in a church
but I've already told my fiancé, like, yeah, if we had a baby, I'd baptize them.
But, um, but yeah.
But I don't, I don't have any particularly, I'm not, like, resentful at the church for, like,
my Catholic childhood in the sense that, like, even though mass was boring, like,
there's aspects of the structure of religion, but particularly the community aspect.
Like, that's the one thing I felt that we sort of forgot to think about when we were like,
hey, we're going to move away from religion.
for a large amounts of people, not everybody, but
you know, for a lot of communities,
religion is going to cease to be the center point
of our like community structure.
But we forgot that like, oh, but let's look at all the things
that are not religious that this institution was providing.
Maybe we need to have a think about how we're going to sort of replace that,
which I think that we didn't often.
Not always, but a lot of the times it happened that we didn't.
And I do feel that there are.
aspects of that that were like a missed opportunity, some sort of like babysitting down as a society
and saying, what is the secular answer to community gathering, a sense of shared purpose?
It's whatever about morality, but just a sense of like a commonness.
Like we need to think about like what what binds us?
If we're not bound by this religious identity, what binds us?
you know because like I feel like that helps communities to thrive you know and I think we just maybe
we rushed the process a little bit I would say unfortunately but it is what it is we are where we are
but that's a deeper conversation I think in as well in Ireland it's it's so different because
obviously it was it became so or it was so abusive but in Ireland it's the gah that's kind of
taken over in rural areas you know like in a way thank God they have and it could be
little dramatic. It can be a little intense, but they have like Gaelic football or Hurlin, go there on the
Sunday. And I think, yeah, it's just finding your like, for us, it was comedy. You know, we had this
automatic community, even though they're all mental. Yeah, but I, and I get that. I get that you find
a community for yourself. But I meant also more like in the sense of like actually like location wise,
you know, like, you know, just just I just something that was like a little more unifying, but in a less,
in a less ideological way.
But, you know.
Well, Pope Leo's doing great work.
Yeah, he's making me Catholic again, this guy.
I know. Oh, my God.
This guy.
Showing my cross.
Yeah.
I'm like, oh, I got to be Catholic again.
I'm team Catholic, you know.
Yeah.
And there's some great,
because a lot of them come to my shows, God.
What are they called?
Nuns?
No.
They're, yeah, coming to throw holy water at me.
They're a type of Christianity.
that's like very progressive and like they're sort of like you can be gay, you can have women
pastors, I forget the name of it, but that one's really cool. You're like, okay, well if I can't
Oh yeah, I'm all for that. Actually, I'm actually a pretty pro religious practice absent of the,
you know, overly controlling rules, you know, particularly around this concept of, you know,
know, a morality that's very rigid and damning, you know. But hey, it's been established now. We don't
need to give over the whole pod to my favorite subject of all time. Oh, yeah. And if hell is real
on their, maybe I shouldn't baptize the baby because if hell is real, by their logic, I'm going to
hell. So maybe I should have the baby with me in hell. Yeah, exactly. You want to see your baby again?
Yeah. Wait, I'm not baptizing the baby.
All right, let's take a few more before Katie.
Oh, Katie's got to go soon.
So let's try to get two quickies in.
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Hi, Des.
Little Diler and Giggler here.
So I'm actually active duty military and I've been in for several years.
I'm born and raised in America.
And when I came over to Germany and I now live in Belgium, I'm now stationed in Belgium.
I did not realize how they do not use ice in their.
drinks in Europe. I mean, I am an ice theme. I love a cold, cold drink. I love ice in my drinks,
and they just don't do that here. They don't have ice makers in many hotels in Europe,
and everywhere I go, when I ask for ice in my beverage or ice in my water, they just
look at me like I'm crazy, and don't even get me started on the fact that they just serve you
water in a glass and they don't serve top water. You have to order still or sparkling, and you
have to pay for it.
But it also doesn't come with ice.
And it drives me crazy.
Okay, love you.
Thanks.
Bye.
You know what?
It does come with, though.
Freedom.
Katie's out of control.
Once you bring up damnation, then she just loses the run of herself.
Well, no, here's a thing.
That's just a cultural difference, you know, the ice thing.
There's ice in Ireland, though.
No, there is, yeah.
But it's definitely not the, you know, like it's, yeah.
This is very ice-focused culture.
Like, I have almost never gone to the ice machine in hotels,
whereas, like, American hotels are just like such a big part of American hotels.
And that's just the cultural difference, you know.
And like, I'm a fan of ice, but not.
I'm definitely a product of a long life in Ireland where I didn't, you know,
I just had gotten used to, like, not having to have.
ice and everything.
Yeah.
I prefer without ice for the most.
Water.
Like water, no ice.
Yes.
I'm fine with that.
But Diet Coke, I want it freezing cold.
But I prefer to not have ice, but for the can or the bottle to be absolutely ice cold to the point where it should be frozen, but it's not frozen yet.
Okay.
For Diet Coke.
Yeah, that makes sense.
For Diet Coke.
But I do think also, mainland.
Europe is still even less ice focused then. Ireland has really felt that American connection,
I think, more than mainland Europe. But again, that is just a cultural difference, one of these
things that Americans notice when they go to Europe. I've always felt that Americans overdo it on the
ice, but I'm also, like Han is big on the ice. I'm not as big on the ice. That's just part of life.
Yeah. Well, I think you also get less drink here. Like, you know, when you get an ice coffee,
but then it's like, it's all ice. Oh, a lot of ice.
Yes, 100%.
Yeah.
Someone did on TikTok like, oh, if you get a large, it's actually just the same.
It's just they were just putting in more ice.
Just more ice.
Oh.
Yeah, that they worked out.
The measurement was actually.
Consumer reports here.
Yeah.
Like, for example, like when I get a Diet Coke from like a Burger King or something,
I never put ice from the, you know, the self dispenser thing.
I can't imagine that it's not dirty.
Like a lot of these ice machines.
Yeah.
I'd imagine. I've worked in bars as well. It's not like the cleanest thing, the ice.
Yeah. But in general, the water's fine. People are like, people are overly paranoid,
I feel like about that, though, also. Like, yes. By the way, in Ireland, you get tap water as an
option. Yeah, top water is great in Ireland. I'm surprised in mainland Europe because their water
is great, but I guess they're just trying to push sales. Yeah. All right, let's take one more before
Katie goes. She's doing a podcast in seven minutes.
huge friend of the pod.
But what I thought was super, super normal in my house was to put VIX on the bottom of my feet
because my Hispanic grandma would put VIX on the bottom of my feet whenever I got sick.
And so I have done that my whole life.
And then I got married and I did it in front of my husband.
And he was so confused when I did it.
But in my brain, it was normal.
He was like, no, you're supposed to put that on your chest.
And I'm like, no, sir, I put it on the bottom of my feet.
And now I got all my white friends to do it too.
Yeah, I mean, I would put it on my chest, but now hearing her, I trust her more, I'm going to start putting it on my feet.
Yeah.
It's funny, the Vicks, the VIX thing.
VIX really, like, has a lot of use for people.
But actually, Nicole, can you do a quick Google on how effective any of these VIX kind of remedies are?
because, you know, in the name of the father, great Irish movie, there's a scene where, you know,
Giuseppe Conland is like, you know, head over a boiling pot of water with Vicks in it,
with a towel over his head, like breathing in the VIX.
You know, and that was like another one of these VIX remedies.
But I actually never checked until this moment.
How effective is VIX at all?
Any response, Nicole?
So it does work.
It's a temporary symptomatic.
lever and breathing it in is is the trick obviously so i'm curious if it's on your feet what that's
even really doing because you're here perfect you can breathe it right in on your feet unless you're
all curled up at night but is it when you put it on your chest because obviously people are
big on putting on the chest when you put it on your chest is the actual is it just because you're
breathing it in it's not actually you're not like absorbing it into your lungs right it's breathing it in
it's just the breathing it in so putting on a chest isn't necessarily
per se it's more because like to be honest when we used to take ecstasy in the mid-90s in rave culture
it was also a thing that vix accentuated the high of ecstasy so raves smelt like vix in the 90s
i don't know if you guys knew that i thought you're going to say you put the e on your chest i was
like no like if any of my generation that went to raves they smelt like vix that's how you get
caught from your parents yeah you come home smelling a vix instead you're doing it
to see again.
Have you got a cold or a drug problem?
All right.
Well, we're going to say goodbye to Katie.
I won't rush off the pod, but Katie's got to go.
Well, thank you so much for joining us at short notice, Katie.
Thanks for having me.
What's your Instagram again?
Oh, at Katie Boyle Comic.
And the shift is still going.
And Katie has two specials on YouTube.
So go check out her YouTube.
Is it Katie Boyle comedy or is it's Katie Boyle comic as well?
Katie Boyle comic on YouTube.
And thanks, Katie.
Have a good time.
Thanks.
See you.
Bye.
So it's just me and you, Nicole.
Before we go, I didn't want to rush off.
Before we go, big announcement.
Oh, actually, I think, no, this will be too late.
I re-recorded my special on Sunday.
It went great.
And other than that, I think there was like,
I think there was one that I still wanted to get to before we went entirely.
Hey, as and guest, my thing that was just normal in my house and then as an adult I realize is not normal is yelling to communicate by default.
Like, my dad just yells everything.
And apparently I come from a long lot of yellers, like he says his mom was a yeller, his grandma was a yeller.
And I've just inherited it.
And so every time they come over to visit me, it.
like we're yelling to communicate and our condo door is so thin that like we can hear someone
outside dropping off a package or going to their condo and it's like oh they think something bad
is happening in here and also like my last weekend with my ex he made a point to say something like
I'm not going to be like your dad and it's just like brother's just how we talk yeah so this is like
a real problem in my life because
I was raised in a high volume house
in a high volume neighborhood.
I have a joke about it in my current show.
I've probably talked about it on the pod before,
but like it keeps happening
because like Hannah is like,
you know, not a shrinking violet.
Is that the term?
You know, she's not like the quietest person either.
But like I just so often say things
that what's to me are just like,
like a moderate level of like intensity or passion often like not even like not even in an angry
situation and hannah will have like a you need to calm down response in a way that like
doesn't match at all and by the way i'm not saying she's wrong actually i'm just saying like
it doesn't match what's going on in my mind at all like often not even close uh and now we've we know
you know, we have a laugh about it when it happens. But obviously when I'm around my own family, my extended family,
like the 17 first, like me, my two brothers and my 14 first cousins and my aunts and my uncles.
And like, you know, we can just be that normal level of loud. And it's like my natural habitat.
But often out of my natural habitat, it's like, it's like an issue, you know. And it's, you know, I'm, you know,
I think, not to get deep, but I just read The Stranger by Albert Camus.
And, you know, one of the big themes is just kind of this sort of like we're trapped
and sort of like what's the expectation of what's correct, you know, the way that we are
supposed to be, right?
But, you know, it's not, it's not as much of a consensus as we think in all aspects of our
lives, right?
And like, who's to say that the Queen's volume, or like the Flushing Queen's,
1980s volume is incorrect, you know?
Like, how is it that I'm considered loud now, whereas I was just normal when I was
younger, you know?
And I'm getting, I'm getting volume shamed to use the parlance of the Gen Z's.
I'm getting volume shamed.
Why can't I just express myself at the volume that was deemed appropriate for me for a huge percentage of my life?
I don't know why that's happening.
But also, I'm very aware that other people aren't wrong to be perceiving my volume as aggression,
even though it isn't, you know, because there is an assumption of volume that goes with aggression.
You know, and this is just one of the great challenges of my, my,
modern life, you know?
Where did you grow up again, Nicole?
I grew up up upstate New York, but my parents both grew up in Jersey.
So there was like a great amount of that that leaked into our household.
So did you have like, because nowadays, if I get like somebody visiting from Ireland or like
Hannah, for example, that like witnesses like a full my extended family situation, like they
find it entertaining, but it is a bit like a National Geographic episode, you know,
where she's like watching it like, wow, so this is how they behave in their indigenous
environment, you know, where they're like allowed to just like be expressive and loud and like
sounds like we're fighting when we're just having like a normal conversation.
So did, did you feel like when people visited that people thought your parents were like loud or
that there was like a lot of their.
their breed in your area.
So my dad was like much more reserved and quiet.
My mom was very loud and her whole side of the family is very loud.
I kept most people in my life away from them to even witness it at all.
So you were ashamed of it?
Yeah.
I mean, I don't know.
Ashamed feels like harsh, but I felt so different from them too because I felt more aligned
with my dad and just kind of being like reserved in the corner.
Right.
That I was like, I don't even know what to do with all that.
Which is interesting because you've sort of chosen a career where you can sort of relive your trauma,
where you can be quiet in the corner while loud people yap away into a microphone.
That's so real.
And I can't believe no one's brought that up yet.
You really just saw me in a way that I haven't seen.
Crazy.
Poor Nicole.
Listen, we all end up in the sort of exact place that our wound wanted us to be.
You know, we're all a product of our wound.
Like it or not, you know, there's nothing we can do.
We all try to escape it and we all come back there.
You know?
Yeah.
And I guess a lot of great movies and books and stuff are kind of about that, you know, being stuck.
And you're like, you can't break free of the fucking national.
narrative, you know? And here we are. Like, I'm like complaining about people saying I can't be loud and I literally got into a loudness career. You know? What does being loud ever get you in trouble in public? Like, if you're out to dinner or doing anything and you're just talking, like, is anyone ever like chill, like relax? I mean, out to dinner generally, no, but like only because I have become quite sort of like, I, I, I, I, I,
I'm very anti, like, loud talking in public spaces, which sounds hypocritical to what I'm saying,
but it's like in a context of where I feel like it's appropriate to be loud.
It annoys me when people are, like, really loud on their phone and stuff, and I've posted about it.
So actually, on the flip side of everything that I'm talking about, I've become hyper aware of, like, not being loud in those situations.
But like in situations where I don't feel inhibited by the scenario, I have gotten in trouble many times for being either too loud or also just like too, you know, just maybe too uncouth, you know, even, you know, in relationships.
But even like, you know, people in relationships, like you can embarrass your partner one way, you know, her to me,
me to her. Like that, that's always going to happen naturally. That happens a lot with us because we're
both like performers, right? So every now and then we're going to like, we're going to get too
excited. We're going to be feeling ourselves. And we're going to, by the way, I'm not saying that
Hannah has ever gone too far. But she's, I have definitely found myself wishing that she would
rain it in. And 100% she has found herself wishing I would rain it in. And that's just the nature of
just like now I'm like embarrassing her or she's like embarrassing me. Right. But even beyond that,
where it's like we're a married couple.
Of course, we're going to be, like, more aware of each other's behavior.
But even beyond that, there's definitely been times where, like, I, let's face it,
I've spent a lot of my life over analyzing the next day what I was like the night before.
And I've been sober nearly 31 years.
This is not about what did I do when I was drinking last night.
The majority of my life I've not been drinking.
I'm talking about just second-guessing my behavior.
after the fact.
So yes,
it has gotten me in trouble many times.
And also just like,
just misjudged so many times,
like,
you know,
things that you could say
in a social environment,
you know?
Because like, I'm,
like, topics-wise,
like, I'm not,
I don't really care.
There's not much that people could say
that would make me uncomfortable.
And sometimes you can kind of,
forget. And not just because I'm a comedian, but like when myself and the people who have a like-minded
sense of humor to me get together, friends, other comedians, Hannah and her friends, like, it's pretty
unrestricted. I don't mean by the way that we're being like hateful, but, you know, it's just like
some people aren't as open to the level of free comedic chat that might come out of us. But, you know,
I don't hang out with those people too much. You know, I don't like to be in too many situations where I
feel like I have to follow too much of verbal etiquette, you know.
But anyway, that's, we've done etiquette chats before.
But it is, it is, it is interesting the conversation of what is appropriate and what isn't
in certain situations, you know.
And maybe one day we'll get, I really, for the future of the pod, by the way, I really want
to do some expert episodes, like specialist episodes, find somebody who,
we can get on to either like debunk medical misinformation or like fads, like diet fads,
like an episode like that or also like ones of like like I went, who would you get for like
the concept of appropriateness and appropriate behavior?
Because it's subjective also obviously.
You know?
That's actually when Katie was talking about sin.
I wrote this bit once, but I never did it because I just wasn't sure if it would come
across, right? Just about like, we, the Gen X, we were the ones in Ireland, especially, that
broke the grip that the Catholic Church had on Irish society. And for American Catholics, they probably
don't understand the power that Irish Catholicism had because it was just, it was like so an
integral part of like every aspect of Irish society, more than American Catholics could probably
fathom, right? And then due to all the scandals and everything, that grip broke.
And finally, we were free of all the shame and the repression and the concept of sin and what's wrong, what's right.
And then literally, we had like a decade of the freedom of that.
And then the Gen Zs came along and they suddenly created such a rigid criteria of what you can and can't say that we were just right back into sin.
It was just a, honestly, I literally, when I was talking about the concept of like we never filled the hole,
I actually think we kind of did in the sense that like we just created a whole new rigid criteria.
and if you didn't follow that criteria, you were a sinner, just a modern Gen Z sinner, right?
By the way, but the reason why I never did it, because I never wanted to be perceived as somebody that was anti-woke,
because I really was never anti-woke.
I was just more anti-a culture that had become almost toxic in its desire to make society less toxic, right?
But again, a deeper conversation that I'm not really looking to have on Bernaphone,
but I think a worthy conversation nonetheless.
less. But I once improvised on stage in Ireland, a Gen Z stations of the cross. But again,
you need people to know about the stations of the cross. But I was like, Jesus used the wrong
pronoun for the third time. It's like the stations of the cross. You know, crucify him, said the
Gen Zs. But anyway, it requires like too much religious knowledge for the material to work. So I never
actually did it. But I do think there's good concept.
there for those that have stuck around for the hour.
Needless to say, if you follow me politically,
you will know that I am very much aligned with the Gen Zs in many ways,
but I have always been a fan of calling out aspects of that culture
that I felt that were actually counterproductive to progress in the end,
and I think we saw the results of that.
And it's a conversation that we won't continue here on Brennan phone.
But thank you very much, everybody.
The minute Katie left, of course, the rambling began.
But, you know, I...
I think people enjoy it.
So we'll have a few playouts at the end.
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One thing that I thought was super normal growing up on Long Island was that I pronounced
like a clothing drawer, like D-R-A-W-E-R as like a draw.
I don't know what's a big Long Island thing.
But then I moved all the way up to upstate New York.
And now everyone makes fun of me for not saying it right.
And I know what's wrong, but I can't stop myself from saying.
saying it, and I will continue to say that it's a clothing draw.
So I grew up in a non-water bottle household.
Our drinking water came from the filtered tap in the sink.
You either love that or you hate that.
When I moved away to college, my dad refused to buy me a case of water from my dorm
because he said, you have a meal plan.
Just go get water from there.
Well, the factory closed at 7 p.m.
So I don't know which I'm going to do.
So, yeah, so I have this running joke with my friend that any household that has a case of
in spring or the Costco pack of water bottles. I call that rich people water because I had to
get my drinking water from a tap and not, you know, I'm running out the door, I'll be grab a quick
bottle of water. No. So something that's not normal to other people is that I don't have water bottles.
Even my long-term boyfriend right now, he's like, can you get me a water bottle? I'm like,
when have I ever had those? Hi, Des and guests. I am from Venezuela, originally.
but live in the UK with my lovely husband and my wonderful two babies. And I only noticed when I
moved into, moved into the UK about 13 years ago that it's not normal to point at things with
your lips. So you purse your lips and you point at whatever you want. And the first time I did
this, I asked my husband, could you reach that thing over there and purse my lips and showed him
with my lips instead of pointing with my fingers and he was blown away.
He was like, what is this?
How do you point at things like that?
It was hilarious.
And I still do it and now it's like an inside joke for us because nobody else in the UK does it.
And I don't know, it's a Venezuelan thing, I suppose, or maybe a Latina thing.
So yeah, that's it for me.
Kissies.
Bye.
