Berner Phone - Jake Shane: Octopus Lover & Learning From History
Episode Date: May 3, 2023@Octopusslover8 is blowing up the internet right now, so we HAD to have him in hell! Jake Shane should win an Oscar for his hilarious relatable reenactments of historical events and I got to ask him a...bout his creative process, friendships, rise to fame, and anxieties. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Hello, my little devils. I'm so excited for the episode today. Before I start, I rarely tell you what's going on with my stand-up shows just because I'm bad at admin, but it's the perfect time to let you know that I'm announcing my first theater tour. Wednesday, May 3rd, the tickets go live pre-sale, you know, Taylor Swift style, except not Taylor Swift. And the code is butter for you to get tickets before they sell out. Code is
butter and shows I have coming up are Boston, Las Vegas, Oklahoma City, Louisville, New York, I added a
fourth show, Newark, Terrytown, West Hampton Beach, Mashentuck, Connecticut, Austin, Texas, San Antonio,
Dallas, Texas, Houston, Texas, Tempe, Arizona, Buffalo, New York, Bensilum, Pennsylvania, Portland,
Maine, Sacramento, San Francisco, Seattle, Portland, Hanover, Maryland, Kansas City, Indianapolis, Columbus,
Madison, Madison, Go Badgers, Chicago, Milwaukee, New Orleans, Atlanta, Tampa, and Orlando.
Oh, my God. Wow. That almost took up the entire time of the podcast. But I hope that I'm coming to
your city and I hope to see y'all soon. I don't know why I said y'all, because I'm going to Texas
and I can't wait. And I will be napping in between. Don't worry. Enjoy the episode.
I'm going into this blind.
Me too.
I'm jumping into the ocean and getting hit in the face with an octopi.
With a pus.
You guys, we have Jake Shane.
He's gone viral so fast that, like, I haven't even been able to process it.
Neither have I, so we're on the same pace.
Okay, perfect.
But you sat down and I looked at you and I said, babe, how does it feel to be where you're meant to be?
I know.
What are you dealing with emotionally?
Because this is your coming out tour, no pun intended, in New York City.
I'm really anxious.
I hope it's what I'm meant to be doing.
And I'm happy that you see it like that because that's how I feel.
But I do get very anxious.
But also, if you weren't anxious, you wouldn't be funny.
Yes.
If you were just like chill, taking it all in, that means you don't have any thoughts in your brain.
Yes.
My roommate who's sitting right there, Julia, she's only funny when she's anxious.
Like the other day, the other day.
other day she couldn't sleep yeah so for a normal person they would not be able to sleep
hysterically sobbing crying three days straight expose her like i was like what the fuck is wrong
with you but it was hysterical and i would videotape her from afar sobbing wait is she the one that
films yes yes oh my god i'm like starstruck right now wait oh my god i feel like she should be in this
yeah come say hi i feel like you should say hi come say hi julia also can you tell it like
Are you okay with this new role in your life?
Come say hi.
This is my best friend, Julia.
I was testing her, and that was good.
That was good.
We tried to make her a TikTok one day.
It was the biggest flop of all time.
Well, it is like a relationship.
We told her to make a caption.
She's like wrote it on the screen in the weirdest font.
It's like if your manager wanted to be the star.
Like how awkward would that be?
But we try to get her to do it.
We're like, come on, come on, come on.
She's like.
But there's a certain personality, and that's what I mean full circle is that like,
this is what you're meant to do.
But where were you before?
Let's rewind a little bit to like two days ago before you were viral.
Okay.
What were you doing?
I still work as an executive assistant at a record label.
I mean, cool.
It's cool.
It's amazing.
It's awesome.
And with the thing with TikTok is my videos don't take production.
They don't take that much thought.
I mean, let's not be too humble.
There's production behind this shit.
There's a process.
The ones that do, I do after work, so I do at night.
How many takes do they typically take?
One or two.
I'm so happy you said that.
Because as like someone who makes funny videos,
the first video is always the funniest for me.
Unless I fuck up really bad.
The first one is the most authentic.
I can't repeat a moment.
And if you overthink it, like I feel like yours is.
Also, how many are you doing a day?
Like, is there a strategy behind it?
So when I first started, okay, so I, do I want me to like give you this?
Do I want me to give you this feel?
Okay.
I started making the octopus reviews on Instagram.
Facebook Reels.
Like I started doing it on Instagram.
I made it.
and then I deleted it
because I was like,
whee,
like people are going to think,
people were talking to me like porn?
Are you into porn now?
And I was like,
no, it's fine.
Do you actually have a passion for octopause?
Yeah, deep, deep.
It's my favorite food.
Was it,
so it wasn't from the movie.
It was from like a Sicilian restaurant
with olive oil.
Yes, it was in,
I was a junior,
I think I was going into my junior year
of high school
and I was out to dinner with my mom.
We saw a Broadway play
and we got octopus,
and I was like,
this shit kind of slaps.
But the truth is all octopus
are not the same.
No, you have raw pus.
Yes.
You have grilled puss.
But even grilled puss, like, there's such an art to it where you taste it immediately and you're like they didn't nail it.
Well, that's what I do.
I do the chicken of the sea test.
Yes.
The Cots test because all pus when it's grilled should taste like the chicken of the sea.
So it should be crunch.
You need a collab with Jessica.
But that's, they're working on it.
I know.
They're working on it.
I know.
It's going to be crunchy and salty on the outside and really cut easy on the inside and be super tender without being like flaky and boiled.
Okay, I'm turned on.
Me too.
At what point were you like, this is going to make me famous?
like okay like honestly there was a few moments
but I was like it was my senior year of college
and I was doing it like as a joke I think I literally had 200 followers
pussies and I had 200 pussy's and I was like this is so fun
and I had someone come up to me while I was out that I didn't know it all
they were like by the way love of your account really fucking funny
and I was like what you tasted it
I was like what did you just say
And, like, I went home and I was like, Julia Pratt, like, oh, my God, someone came out to me.
And they were like, duh, sure, Jan.
And like, I was like, okay, cool.
And then I was like, fuck you guys.
I'm going to keep doing it.
I'm going to make you two bitches come with me.
And we're going to do this, us three, all together all the time.
And so we kind of just went out for puss, like twice a week towards the end of senior year.
A little expensive.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was.
It's not ramen.
But I would go.
a restaurant and to save money I would only
order pus. Okay. And it's
gotten to the point though where I've gotten in trouble for making
them split the check with me.
Do you have any like deficiencies
and vitamins from just eating octopus?
Yeah, I actually, sometimes my eye twitches
and I'm like, what's happening? And someone will be like, oh, it's you're
dehydrated or you have like no vitamin D.
You have too much omega-3 fatty acids. I was like, I have too much
vitamin P.
Okay, so
this is still, I didn't even know you did this. I didn't even know
you reviewed octopus yes that's how this all started and then I brought it to
tic-tok and it was slowly kind of when did you bring into tic-tok well I did tic-tok before I would
like do tic-tok now and then here and there and just be like wait a minute barrel but then I
brought it to tic-tok and it was like kind of growing and then I made a video at the end of summer
and at this point I felt like a star because I had like one person come up to me in air one
and you had like 50,000 followers no I had a thousand oh sorry I had a thousand I thought right a thousand
So you're like work at Airwong
Yeah
We were in the parking lot
And someone was like
Love you from Vanderbilt
And I looked at Julia
And I was like
And I was like
And she was like
Oh my God
And that was like the moment
I thought you were in the background
I thought you were in the background
I have questions
I got you
I know too much
Let's reveal
But so I
Then just started
I made this video
Someone posted
That was like
We're about
to be in a recession and I stitched it and I was like yeah like what else do you what else like
it was funny like I'm not doing it justice it was funny you had an authentic moment yeah I was
fucking crossed out of my mind I was so high I was so drunk I was like it was like 3 a.m and I was
like what else do you have a sibling I have a younger brother how does he feel about you
posting blackout on TikTok he texted me congrats on the TikTok success that's so fun it's how
my brother is he's like I saw you come up on YouTube my friend noticed it
Like he doesn't notice until he's like nerdy YouTube.
My mom was like, my mom was like,
next time you get some PR, can you give it to Luke?
Oh, and his girlfriend really likes makeup.
I was like, cool.
I'll give it to them.
Okay, so you post this stitch where you're basically like, what else?
This is so bad.
It sits for a few days.
And I'm like, I thought that was funny.
And then it blew up.
And then I was like, okay, so part of my thing with TikTok is I just throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.
So I'm like, if this stitch stuff is sticking, I'm just going to do it again.
So then I did again, it blew up even more.
than the last one and then I was like kind of stuck in a rut where I was just like posting literally like if I peed weird if my hair itched if I like I like did just literally anything like anything and everything you're being creative you're feeling stuff out like I used to do this series where I would go to this coffee shop and I would get a coffee and they obviously wouldn't give me a straw I don't do that I was like okay so I would go to the place next door and I'd be like it's me again like do you have a straw so my series was if you're not going to give me a straw like I'm going to find one like that's what I used to do one
TikTok. Literally yesterday in New York
I was like, can I have a straw? They were like, do you want an agave
straw that's edible or do you want
the paper one? And I said, which one's not going to
fucking break when I... In my mouth.
Like, let's stop playing this game with me.
The agave one, I was like, I feel like
it thinks it's better than me.
So you're doing...
I love the fact that two things you just said, that you
throw shit at the wall, because I feel a lot of people
are afraid to express themselves online because of what
other people will think or like they're super
perfectionist because I'm messy.
I think it's funny
It's going up
Yeah 100%
Have I deleted something that bombed
Yes, I'm human
I'm human
I'm human, many times
I'm human
But am I gonna try
Absolutely
And I think
Then you have the series thing
Where when I'm
It's almost like a series
Becomes like an inside joke
With your followers
Where like I came in
Because of the
You make fun of history
But then you were doing like
Pussy PSAs
And then I was like
Well I need to be in on the joke
So the next you know
You're like
But you're very welcoming about it
Yes oh my God
Anyone can be a pussy
Pussy
Plus University as a 100% acceptance rate.
It does.
Like I just started coming up with shit like that over the summer while I was still mainly on Instagram.
I was like, Puss University.
And then I made it into like a merch drop because the merch initially started.
Everyone's like, well, how do you have merch so quickly?
I've had merch since last May.
I made it as like, I made it and sold it in college as like a graduation thing.
So you're entrepreneurial.
Yeah, I was like, I'm going to make merch and I'm going to sell it.
And Julia and Brett were like, why are you making us pay?
you're like do you want to sleep tonight so you blew up for me from my perspective when you were
recreating historical moments and not even just historical but just like it's giving like
improv if it was cool yeah thank you because like i'm in the comedy space and like there's a lot of
they'll be like i'm going to do an impression of you know a tear drop when it hits the ground and they do
something weird and you're like okay this is this is so alt and crazy you're just on tictock when you did
the rainbow color that didn't get picked like this dumbest shit makes me laugh so hard thank you and you
even like kind of like know where you think it's going to go and then but you want to see how
you're going to do it sorry you are i'm so amazed by your work really you should win an
Oscar thank you I think I commented you should win an Oscar on one of it's my goal ever since I
little kid I was like I want to act and that's what I wanted to say what was your OG plan
I wanted to be an actor.
We didn't know TikTok was even a thing.
You wanted to be an actor.
But I never took it seriously.
And I was so scared to pursue it because I was so scared of failing.
Yeah.
So I was like, and I did it when I was a kid and I know I was good at it.
I was like, I'm not going to do this.
And then so during COVID, I was like, God, I kind of fumbled the bag there.
Like, I feel like I could have been a child star.
You're like, it's over for me.
Yeah.
I was like, God damn it.
Like, what do I do?
And so I took an acting class my senior year of college with my best friend, Allie.
And it was really fun.
And Ali was like, you're really good at this.
Let's take some improv classes next year together.
So we kept saying we were going to do that, kept saying we were going to do that.
And then I saw Julia Fox on TikTok do this thing where she was like, comment something you want me to act out and I'll act it out.
So I was like, oh, I'm going to do that.
And I did it once and it was really fun.
And then for 60,000 followers.
Wait, so Julia Fox is your muse.
Yeah, she's.
You are Josh Lopsy.
Your TikTok is Uncle Jams.
Yes.
Julia Fox is my Mew.
You're an uncut pussy
I'm an uncut pussy
Yes
I'm an uncut pus
I would never cut these tents off
Okay so you do it
But like is it an immediate success
No no no so I've done it before
And it was fun
Like I did it and it was fun
And then so there was this period
Between December and February
Where I was like gaining like a couple hundred a day
And so I was like
I hit 10,000 and I was like
Oh my God
And then I was the hardest hit
Yeah that's what I heard
And then I hit 20,000 and I was like, oh, my God.
And then 30, 40, 50, 60.
And then for 60, I was like, okay, for six, but this was going like week by week slowly.
And so I was like for 60,000 followers, like, let's play my favorite game, which is comment something you want me to act out and I'll act it out.
And someone commented, like, can you do Bill Clinton denying his relationship with Monica Lewinsky?
And so I was like, yes.
Yes.
And so I started Googling like how Bill Clinton spoke.
And then I was like, I'm just going to smoke joint.
And then I smoked a joint, a little too much of one.
And then I came back and I was like, I can't fucking do this right now.
But, like, I promised the pussies that I would respond to a few comments tonight.
So what the fuck am I going to do?
So I got on and I was like, no.
I was like, I don't, Monica?
I was like, I'm confused.
I love she seen this a hundred times and she's still laughing.
Because I was like, wait, I'm the president.
Like, I wouldn't do that.
I'm so sorry.
Like, what are you talking about?
Like, Monica would react.
Like, who are you talking about?
The girlie?
like and so it kind of did well it kind of did well people thought it was funny and so like I said before
I went back to okay I'm just going to keep doing this until it doesn't work anymore and so I did this one
and then I was like then I thought about it a little harder and someone was like do Paul Revere
so I had this idea where I was just like yo like George are you coming tonight like the British are coming
and it'll be a vibe like it'll be so fun like come on and I was like why are you getting mad at me
Like a bleach in tone.
Yeah, like a bleach in tone.
Like, why are you coming with me?
And then, like, so I did that.
And that one really took off.
And then the next day, Brett goes on an airplane.
It was texting me and was like, you're going up a lot of followers.
And I was like, how do you have service?
Wait, is this your manager?
No, no, no, no.
My manager, one of my managers are sitting right there, Matt.
Oh, we love multiple managers.
Well, no, he's just on the team.
He's on the team.
But I, Brett was like, you're going up a lot of.
followers and I was like what and it was
giving me anxiety it's like I was about
to say like it's like for
I was in a similar place where I was like let's fucking
create and I was post like stand up I was posting stupid
shit I just post post post post I love your stand up
by the way so thank you
of course I mean you're the kind of person I want to laugh
but I do think that the algorithm
has helped us both where like
I used to do you know reality TV and I was
in the very like reality TV and I was like
but I don't want my stand up to go to just reality
TV like I want to find the girlies that don't even
know what Summerhouse is yes and
TikTok, like some of my followers are the funniest most creative people.
And I feel like you've cultivated this like really funny creative following where like I look
at the comments and I'm like, these bitches are so funny.
No, they're clever.
Like they come up and then it became this thing where they started like, okay, so don't,
like they're your creative director.
Essentially, yeah.
It really is.
It's me and the pussies.
And do you, because they give so many good ideas, you don't want to lose them.
Do you have like an Excel doc where you like put all of them?
I add them to my favorites.
So I add the comments to my favorites
And then we'll do this thing
Where we'll all sit around
Like me, Julia, Brett, Alice, Peyton
Like we'll all sit in a circle
And we'll all be like, okay
You literally like Jeff Bezos
Like you have a full team
No, well these are just my best friends
These are just my best friends
And we'll all sit in a circle
And we'll just go through comments
And we'll tag me in the ones
That they think are funny
And we'll add it to favorites
And we'll film
But it does feel like you're hanging out
With your friends
And it's so funny
I am
I am like she's right here right now.
Like you're literally trying to
her laugh yeah that's my whole life she's such a good laugh too she's a great laugh she knows it
too keep her around no keep her i know she's thrown it around like crazy i love no a friend with it like
my best friend page is just like the best laugher in the world and i always tell myself when i'm posting
i'm like would page laugh at this yeah that's what i always think i always think and i don't post it
if i don't think she would yeah that's i'm always like and then sometimes when i'll do it like i'll
can tell they're pity laughing at me the mercy and i'll look at them and i'll be like and julie will
just be like, you know every single kind of laugh that she has.
Like I did one the other day and it was like, and I was like, and she was like, just do a different
one.
Well, this, what I was saying is, yeah, then as I got more followers, then you, you feel like, oh,
now I'm expected to have like every video when a Peabody.
Yes, and it's scary.
But that's not what got you there.
I know.
So like my biggest advice is like, sometimes I like when a video bombs because then I'm like,
who, okay, I'm off the like.
Yeah.
I don't have to be good.
Like, if I have a couple that are killing,
then I'm like, the next one, I start overthinking.
Me too.
That's what I do.
That's what I was doing.
That's why I got really anxious.
And I was like, what do I do?
And the ones that have done the best are the ones that were one take and I didn't think
about it.
John Hancock.
Have you seen the John Hancock one?
Yes.
The same future?
The whole world saw it.
Yeah.
So that was like my moment where I like, I was like, oh, like, that's funny.
Again, I was very high.
And I was like, okay, Brett, I gave her the camera.
I looked at Julie.
I was like, you come up here, write something down, walk away.
And I'll take it from there.
And I did it.
I think it was one and done.
And I went to bed and that's that, that video was what really took off that week.
That, well, that video, oh my God, I love, because I was always entrepreneurial and people
TikTok, whatever, you're a literal brand.
And like, I love to see, like, how something just popped, your pussy popped.
Yeah, my puss popped.
It puss pops so hard.
And this character that you play, that is different in every role, I will say, but has that
Jennifer asked Aniston vibe where it's like you know it's like well it's her you know what's going on yeah
who is that person it's like it's like a combination of all the reality TV I watched growing up
really and truly like is that why I love it because it literally yeah seems like the dramatic
person on reality TV it's it's every any point I've met in my life it's me it's my friends it's
like it's literally just like I'm trying to make fun of myself and then also like the people on
reality TV that I saw growing like I was a big I was a big reality TV kid like big VH1 MTV so like
you know those years your brains form it you didn't you weren't there like for Jersey Shore
yes I was babe how old are you I was well I'll tell you the story and my grandparents passed
and I was in their apartment my parents were cleaning out I'm sad RAP but I was no I'm sorry I'm
very sad I love them very much this was a very long time ago when you think of your dad grandpa
you think of Polly D be like yes because we were in we were in we were in we were in
we were in their apartment cleaning it out.
I was like 10, you guys.
So I really love them very much.
I had no idea what was happening.
No one said you didn't love them.
No, I know.
I feel like I just was trying to make it like funny and just, you know.
And my parents are going to be like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
And I, we were in their apartment and I was like put in a TV room.
And I was like, okay, well, no one's going to bother me for the next few hours.
And I had been reading the tabloids at this point because that's I was reading
Entertainment Weekly, it's reading us weekly.
And so I saw Snookie everywhere.
And I was like, I really want to watch Jersey Shore.
And so I turned on MTV, realizing that no one was going to come in the room because they were too busy cleaning out my dead grandparents' apartment.
And I was like, I watched Jersey Shore from like 9 a.m. to 9 p.m.
And I was like, it changed your life.
It changed my life.
I made my dad take me to meet Snuckie when I was 11 years old for my 11th birthday.
I got at Barnes & Noble in White Plains, New York.
Actually, I'm when you apologize to you, I'm so sorry for saying.
you were too young because what happened to you
it actually like affected your brain growth
I was already in college like we would all get
together after college and sit down
we'd all watch you together but I was already like pretty fully
formed in my views Snooky
raised you. She raised me she really
did like she really really
did and then I met Ronnie and Sam at Korean barbecue
and Yonkers and I was like oh my god
mom and she was like who the fuck
are these people? Your toe is gorgeous
yeah I was like I really love you guys and Ronnie was like
thank okay cool
I was like you're still together I was like how's
the Bogogi.
I thought you are Dumas.
Yeah.
I was like,
oh my God,
like, what's up?
And like, oh my God,
it was crazy.
But yeah,
so Jersey Shore was like my,
that was like my reality TV show.
I also watched
Bad Girls Club,
flavor of love.
Shot at Love with Teila tequila.
I know she's
bats shit crazy these days,
but I did watch that.
Honestly, like she was like the first
buy girl ever on TV.
She was.
She was.
Like an icon.
Yeah.
I watched Paraseltins my new BFF.
Oh, I actually never saw that.
I was a big housewife's kid.
Yes.
Like,
like OG old house.
wives like Beverly Hills like when like Taylor was on wow yeah so I was just like that's like all
those people like that's what I grew up watching and so it's funny because I was looking up
articles like how people describe you and like you're newly popping off so people are trying
to like put a brand on you and they were like he makes fun of history and I'm like I feel like
it's not that like intellectual it's what you said you're literally turning like historical events
into reality yeah that's essentially what I'm doing and I'm also taking a comment and people are
like, are you a history buff?
And I'm like, my mom is and my brother
is, but I'm not. Because really, they're
like not realizing, like the comments, tell
me what to do. Yeah. It's like, can you do
this? Like, can you do a cut? Like, but you
understand what happened in history to then, like,
actually you are fully educational
to the viewer that would never want to
consume boring history books. Well, I'll Google it on occasion.
We'll Google it on occasion. I'll be like, wait, what is this? What's
happening? A Wikipedia never hurt anybody.
Never.
We, like, they were something with like the Betsy Ross and the
American flag, right? Yeah. And I was like,
And so I googled it.
And then I did it.
And people were like, okay, that's funny.
But that was one that I had to Google.
You might need a TV show where you, like, start from the beginning of time.
And you just teach everyone all the, all the moments you need.
And I'm like, it's hot.
Why is it hot today?
I'm sweating.
Yeah, why is it so hot today?
I'll be like, oh, meteor.
Whatever.
They keep saying it in the news all the time.
But it's like, we get it.
You want clicks?
Yeah, like.
Oh, my God.
I'm so obsessed.
Okay.
So in a span of time, you're like just chilling with your roomies.
You blow up on TikTok.
You are the like American story of like rags to riches.
But no, like you're literally hanging out with not only all the Jonas Brothers
obsessed with you.
Jonas.
Alex Earle.
Yeah, she's amazing.
She's she.
How did that even happen?
Okay.
So we were DMA when.
Who started?
I think it was me.
I think it was me.
And she, we follow.
at each other. And obviously
what happened with her was to
like I felt something similar
happened to me obviously what happened with her was to
a mega mega extent because she's
absolutely everywhere. But it was
still a quick rise in a similar
time frame. In my head you are the first
person to have an Alex Earl moment since Alex Earl.
Well it's nothing like Alex Earl
but it was I felt like
talking to her made me feel like
Less alone. A little and like
she was really I asked her for advice
on stuff just because she's also new
to it so like I want to hear how because she's I'm like a few months after her like okay like what do
you think like I'm gonna be like what do you do when this happens and she'll be like okay well I do
this because the way she handles herself it's like she's like a pro yeah she's like a pro
but she's giving what you're giving which is like I say it's like a surfer I don't care if I've
never surf if you don't surf waves feel weird but once you find the right wave it actually goes
pretty fucking smooth like when you're doing what you're meant to do right and I feel like she
obviously like didn't love classes in school
Like it wasn't a priority, but then she's loving creating the content she's doing now.
Yes.
And the universe is like aligning to it.
And when I met her, we just really, we really hit it off.
We just really, really, really.
I mean, like her roommate who was there who's amazing.
Like more than us.
Her roommate was really amazing.
More than me.
No, I love everyone.
Her roommate was amazing and she was like,
had mutual friends with Julia, and I was like, oh, my God, this is just easy.
We played Jewish geography.
It was, like, easy.
And then I texted them both because we were at a dinner.
And so we went to the bathroom.
We, like, hung out.
And then we, like, we really just had a bunch.
No, we did not do cocaine.
I don't do coke.
But I don't do drugs, except weed.
You don't want upburst.
Yeah.
I smoke.
That's it.
But we made TikToks.
It's been the bathroom.
That's what we did.
That's what we did.
They're like, do you want to?
TikTok?
Yeah, I'm like...
Well, they did the dance so well.
Yes.
And I'm not going to lie to you.
I downloaded your dance.
Because I was...
She's not a dancer.
Not that I can shake my ass.
I can't.
I can't.
You can.
You just have to dig really fucking deep into your ovaries, into your pus.
And then I downloaded it and then I slow mode it.
And I'm like, what is he, what is he, is he flipping?
Is he snapping?
It happened.
That was my second take on it.
Oh, yeah.
And I just went like, oh.
So you invented this dance.
Yes, all the dances I do, I always invent.
I have to say, so if you're into TikTok,
Alex Earl blowing up was like, that doesn't happen.
It came out of nowhere.
We thought people blowing up on TikTok was like, that's COVID.
Exactly.
So I was like, this is insane.
Then when you started doing it, I actually was happy as in like it didn't,
it probably made Alex girl feel better that it wasn't like a mistake in the algorithm.
It's like if you're fucking great at what you do, like they will get you.
And not in like an aggressive way.
I'll find you.
And I'll kill you.
Like, I mean, they'll follow you and love you.
But then I didn't even realize that you had this viral dance,
and I didn't know dances could go viral.
Yeah, I didn't know either, but what I kept doing it,
I kept doing it over and over and over and over, over, over, over.
Why?
Because I realized, like, okay, so, like,
Rina Sarayama, I don't know if you know who she has.
She's a British pop star.
She's fucking amazing.
Came over, and I, like, did my dance with her,
and I do my dance with Julia and Brett all the time.
I make everyone do my dance.
And, like, it just became, like, part of, like, the puss lore.
Your branding is insane, and I don't mean to make it like it's not personal and authentic.
It's, like, very, very cool that you, like, it's you.
I mean, at the end of the day, really what I do is I just run with stuff and hope people catch on.
Yeah.
And they have.
They have the pussy PSA caught on, which I, dad-ass was not expecting that to catch on at all.
What do you say with the pussy PSA is?
Like, what is a pussy PSA?
Like, I'm like, pussy PSA, pussy PSA.
Like, I'm tired.
Yeah.
Like.
And then you scare people.
And then I scare people.
That.
She's so pissed.
That was what I started it.
Oh, she hates it.
Well, she hates that.
And she also, she can't do anything with me now because she'll, like, be like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
But you know what?
As you get more famous, you're going to hurt people around you.
Yeah.
And you have to step on their necks to for success.
Brett was sleeping.
She was napping.
I'll send you the video after.
So if we can, like, put it in here.
This is traumatizing.
She was, this was bad.
This was really bad.
After she's helped you with all these videos.
Yes.
No, no, no.
This was way before.
This was a month ago.
Okay, this is before.
But she's napping.
And a little thing about Bright is that she does not nap.
She walks a lot.
She does not nap.
And so...
What's it like to not be depressed?
Sorry.
No, that's what we say to her all the time.
You know, I can nap right now.
If the lights went off, done.
Brett's like, good morning.
Yeah, I hate that.
Actually, now I'm happy you woke her up.
And I was like, why the fuck did you do that?
She was, why the fuck did you?
And I was like, holy shit.
I feel really bad.
Like, I scared the living daylights out of her.
That's the only time I've ever felt bad.
Did you film it?
Of course.
I was going to...
Yes, I was going to send it.
Did it do well?
No.
She was like, that better fucking do well, Jake.
You might need a repost.
Yeah, people were like, you're an asshole.
People started to turn on you.
And I was like, okay, sorry.
I was like, shy to leave it.
And I was like, well, it's there now.
What's cool is you have these people that are like holding you down.
Like some people get famous very alone, like, insales in their basement, you know, twitching.
I don't know, Twitch stars, Twitch, whatever.
Yeah.
I don't know what Twitch is.
But I imagine, like, you just blow up.
And like, your world changes, but you're alone with it.
Yeah.
do like that you have these great friendships around you yeah they're my best friends i i made sure i
spent every single day with them and it's incredibly grounded do they still like you has he changed
okay they keep me grounded they keep you grounded like so i was getting a lot of PR and um again
i'll send you a photo of what our apartment looked like but i was in trouble i was in trouble oh i'm
currently no no no no it was like my friend alice came over
looked at me and goes they're going to leave you wait so did these places just like reach out to you
yeah they'll DM me or they'll DM my management or question for you are you in therapy no why
I know I ghosted my therapist when I went on vacation this summer I never never wrote back oh so you
had one I had one she was a vibe she like came once and I was like you look tan she was like well I'm
going to Palm Springs tomorrow girl and I was like I'm going to Italy so you never
okay how's your like anxiety depression we've hit on it really really bad are you a more depressed
girlie are you a cocktail of it are you more anxious i'm i've really really bad oCD and not just like
this has to be neat it's like numbers and even and good luck bad luck it's like rituals and like
so that's gotten really bad i'm a very very anxious person which makes me depressed i 100%
understand that because when you're overdrive in your head like dealing with all these made-up thoughts
that you're afraid of that aren't real,
then you're like, holy shit, I'm exhausted.
I'm exhausted.
When your friends are like, you haven't moved from the couch in six hours,
and you're like, I've been fighting demons.
Yeah.
I've been in a full World War III.
I have really, really, really, really, really, really, really anxiety.
Like, really, really bad.
So, like, doing stuff.
Are you a perfectionist?
No, yes.
But, like, doing stuff like this, like, scares me.
Like, I was, like, had, like, a panic attack yesterday.
Look, babe.
It was so.
I love you so much.
I love you so.
I remember thinking being, like, oh, I'm so excited for this interview.
because I know I'm going to enjoy him, just being himself.
Yeah, and it's like, and I was always so honest with, like, people on TikTok about, like,
yeah, I'm, like, super anxious, like, whatever.
Like, even before I blew up and people really appreciated that.
And I guess I was, like, building a community that I didn't even realize at the time.
And, like, I'm so open about it because I'm like, why the fuck would I lie?
Yeah.
Like, here are my mats.
I take 50 every morning.
Also, like, they'll find you.
Like, these people are FBI agents.
Like, just be exposed.
be pure and like and you'll find your people yeah and but that but the anxiety really got that
when I started blowing up on tape top well that's the thing like I talked to a lot of people about like
all you want to do is get success then you get success and I like to analyze like the happiness
factor are you happier than you were before no I feel the exact same and it's weird because like
I was at an event and I thought I was going to feel I thought I was always told myself because I was
so like insecure I was like when I become if I ever become famous I'll feel
I'll be sexier and I was like walking around this party and I was talking to everyone and I felt like a star but I was like I still feel like not cute it was like the weirdest thing I was like I really thought this would change everything and it didn't I totally understand how you feel as in you think when something happens to you you are going to change yeah I'm a new bitch yeah and you realize you're still that same person going to bed at night yeah I still feel like insecure just because you have a different number on a phone yes you're still that same person and
Anything that you were struggling with will be exacerbated sometimes.
But also, this is a really fun time in fame where, like, it's not, like, insane where you can't, like, go outside.
Right.
But you're in this place where you can create and people will see it.
Yeah.
And it's, like, having fun.
And remembering those moments early on of, like, why you want to do what you do.
100%.
Which I'm obsessed with.
La, la, la.
Oh, but real quick, are we dating?
What's going on?
You and me?
Me, you, anyone else?
Oh.
I am not dating
I haven't hooked up with someone
I want to say
since last May
I'm so I haven't
I've been on a few dates
I hooked up with this one guy
and then I
I wanted to use a condom
and he kicked me out of his apartment
I walked home
and Julia and Brett were like
that was quick
and I was like well
it didn't go far
but you're clear
and he was like messaging some other guy
as I was like leaving
I was like sorry
he was like it's fine
someone's coming over in 15
I was like what the fuck
It was bizarre
That means
You have to be a top
No, I'm a bottom
And I was like
What the fuck is happening
What? Where are the tops?
Because I only
I'm searching
I'm searching
Or the guys who say their tops
I'm like you're a bottom
Yeah, come and find me
Because I've been waiting
I've once like
So you must get out of DM
My type
My type
In New York
Financy
Like
But where do you live right now
L.A.
You need, also you need to be in the comedy clubs.
Like, you need to just, like, be in the scene.
I know.
Should I do one?
Well, I would have to practice really hard.
Well, obviously.
But not even, I don't even put in pressure.
It's just, like, getting to know all the other comics and, like, being around that world.
Someone might be writing a script for something that you can collaborate on.
Maybe you start doing a live show in some capacity.
I don't know.
This is your stuff, but I'm not going to step on it.
I just, you're a talent.
Thank you.
You're a talent.
Thank you.
But also, boys can distract you.
I know.
And if they're going to affect your mental health.
the negative way it's not worth it you know what lady gaga says your career will never wake up
and tell you it doesn't love you in the morning wow yep i think about it every day i think about when
she said when the guy broke up with her and she's like you're not going to be able to walk into a
baga yes oh my god without hearing my voice so that's what i live my life yeah lady gaga is how i
don't care about these men anymore but i'm like if he doesn't hear my name in a bodega yeah
was my life successful like no maybe not for me that's most new york city shit too like i want to be
getting a bacon, egg and cheese at a bodega.
I know.
This is from a bodega.
We were going to go get Celsius, and Julia was like,
well, maybe it'll be by Coastal.
Yeah, that would be great.
Yeah.
I would love that.
Okay, time to play The Seven Deadly Sins.
Seven Deadly Sins.
What are you greedy about?
Oh, rice.
We always have to order, like, we'll go to this restaurant in L.A. called Sunen, and
Julia won't
fucking share with me
because she's like
you always eat all the rice
and I take all the rice
I'm very greedy about rice
it's my second favorite food
It is a good thing to be greedy about
because you could like a side of rice
isn't that expensive
one of my favorite tweets ever
was like
I love snacks
that you can have like a thousand of
yeah
like rice
like rice
I'm very greedy about rice
like I'll take all of it on the plate
to the point where people won't share with me
I eat
I'm craving 3,000 little grains right now
yeah like it's just oh
rice is perfect
but yeah that is what I'm
That's what I'm greedy about.
And do you like to put, like, sauce on it?
I have a method to my madness.
So I have, so I'm, my favorite rice is when I'll do a side of white rice,
soy sauce and spicy mayo.
Yes.
Mix it together.
Yes.
Get a side of tempura crunch.
Yes.
Pour the tempora crunch in.
Mix that together.
So she's a chef.
And then, like, sometimes do a little bit of chili oil.
Okay, food network.
Wait.
Do you like crispy rice salmon?
Yes.
Yes.
Okay, good.
Because then you could
You have to work less hard
Yes
Who were you envious of?
Timothy Shalameh
So envious
Do you think he's actually
Hoking up with Kylie Jenner?
I saw that
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
I don't know
But I'm very envious of the way
He went to LaGuardia
I know
I'm envious of like
how he was able to take
theater so seriously
and be like
unbi-he was just himself
and he's now like
one of the biggest movie stars
in the planet
and I just
But I mean
what you've done is so cool because like there's like the old boys club of like you know having to go through agents and casting right trying and failing and being all sad and whatever where you've created your own TV show right you literally have your own TV show right now that you're writing that you're performing and I'm just I'm so excited like just remember me oh my god you remember me what do you gluttonous about babe what does that mean what do you what do you over indulge in like besides Bryce is there something that is like is something that is like is like something that is like is like
like you're yeah i probably smoke a little too much why do you think you smoke does it help your
anxiety it helps in and then it makes it worse but sometimes i'll be really anxious and then it just
makes me laugh and it makes me creative but yeah i would definitely say it's see when i smoke as an
anxious person it makes me cry oh okay so i like ruin the party yeah and i'm the person where
everyone's like i like to eat i like to laugh they're like she definitely smoke yeah everyone thinks
i'm high all the time i'm tired yeah and i like people who smoke around me uh-huh but i would
Well, like, think I'm really dumb because, like, thoughts aren't coming as fast, and then I'm just, like, everyone thinks I'm dumb in this room.
And then I, I get a tad paranoid, too, but when I smoke with, like, all my friends, that's when I'm like, I'm like, I've done it in questionable situation.
Oh, for sure, me too.
For sure.
I've done it where I'm like, do I hate these people?
I'm like, when I'm like, what's happening?
I'm like, I think they're trying to make me dumb.
When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath or anger?
Oh.
Oh, my God.
God, I was going to New York to visit my friend Cassidy.
A day before I left, my parents were like, hey, sweetie, by the way, we're putting the dog down.
I'm like, wait, what?
They're like, yeah, but don't cancel your trip.
And I'm like, why wouldn't you tell me this before I...
You're killing a family member.
Before I fucking sawing and I was like, sobbing and I was like leaving for the airport.
And I was like, bye, Katie!
And my parents were like...
The dog has no idea.
The dog just like, I love life.
She was like, what's happening?
I was like, and that's why I was like furious with my parents for not telling me they were putting
the dog down and I was leaving.
Honestly, don't tell me.
Yeah.
Because I can't emotionally handle it.
And then I was in New York, like, out.
And I was like, my dog's dad.
Fuck.
Any song comes on, you relate to the dog.
And I would use it as like anything.
Julia and I were like bickering over text and I go, well, my dog's dying.
So you took your dog's death worse than your grandparents got it.
Yeah.
I do love my grandma and grandpa very much.
No, I know.
I'm sure they're viving up there.
They're watching you.
Yeah.
They're like, period.
He watched Rosie Shore.
while we passed.
Well, this last time you were a sloth,
so, like, lazy piece of shit, didn't do anything.
Okay, it was the day Brett ran her marathon.
And I had stayed out all night.
I had stayed out all night.
And because I was like, I'm making,
because it was our friend's birthday the night before.
You made your own kind of marathon.
It was, yeah, it was our friend's birthday the night before
and Brett's marathon in the morning.
And Brett was like, it's going to be so fun.
Like, just, you know, like, go out the night before.
If you miss it, like, I'm not going to say anything to you.
We just will no longer be friends.
No pressure.
And I'm like, okay, cool, perfect.
And she's like, and I'm like,
so I'm like, I will stay in up all night.
And so we stayed up all night.
I'm like sitting in bed with me and my friend Peyton
were sitting like this, like 6 a.m.
We're waiting for Julia to wake up
because you remember when I was saying
that Julia couldn't sleep?
This was that era.
So we weren't allowed to wake her.
And so we were sitting like this in bed,
like shaking, like laughing.
We were going, and then we suddenly would hear
from Julia's side.
We were so scared.
And then once she,
She woke up, she was like, I slept so good.
We're like, okay, like, time to go to the marathon.
You finally breathe.
So we go to the marathon.
I get back.
And I'm like, yeah, took two edible, smoked a joint, went to bed.
Woke up, got angel hair pasta, went back to bed.
Oh, yes.
That was the last time I was a sloth.
Good choice.
It was sick.
When was the last time?
Okay, this is the hard one.
Did you let your pride or your ego get in the way of something?
I mean, honestly, I can't think of like a recent example, but the biggest example of my life
would be not pursuing acting when I was a kid.
yes it would be the biggest example I was so scared I didn't want people to be like
think I was weird like I and I regret it every day it's funny because when I first let's make
about me but about me when I first graduated school I was like a tennis player I decided to not
continue it further and I told my mom I was like I want to like interview people like on the subway
like at 21 years old and I was like no that's so weird and like why would I do that and then I
ended up doing like sales marketing all these boring jobs at 25 I quit and I was
I was like, I want to do video.
Fast forward, I'm literally interviewing people on the street at 31.
Yeah.
And it's like, oh, you knew what you wanted to do, bitch.
Just pursue it.
Just do it.
It's so scary when you're younger, though.
It's so scary.
Because also, I wanted to prove my parents, like, I could have a corporate job.
Right.
I can do big girl things.
But then it's like, no, I'm a little idiot and I just want to do, like, things that make me giggle.
Yeah, right.
And that's okay.
Yeah, that's okay.
They learn, you learn.
And also, life is long, hopefully.
Yeah, you're going to act.
I hope.
And you are acting every day.
I hope.
You are acting every day.
When was the last time you lusted over someone?
So do you have any, like, celebrity crushes?
I think I lusted over someone last week.
I was DM in some guy.
And I was like, I wanted him to ask me out to drinks.
And I was trying to, like, insinuate it.
He didn't do it.
Well, now that you have followers and you live in L.A.,
because I have, like, New York, people don't care as much.
Do you ever think, like, oh, is this guy using me for a selfie?
Like, no, I don't know, I don't know. My dad was like, you should watch out for that.
But it's like, I can't, I can't.
Shout out to dad being protected.
I know. I was like, why? You think so?
And then.
But I think, I can't think like that because if I do, then I'll take myself too seriously.
And the only reason I am where I am is because I don't take myself seriously.
True.
And so I can't think like that. I kind of just have to hope for the best.
Oh my God, I love you. You're so freaking cute. Final question.
Okay.
You've done amazing in hell.
when you're going through dark times
and you're deep in hell
what do you do to cope
I watch TV
and I smoke
straight up
what are your go-to TV
I'm watching yellow jackets right now
Batty's West
the last of us I was really into
so good
my favorite show of all time is the show called Dark
Amazing
Don't tell me
Of course I watched Dark
No my God
Everyone says they've never seen it.
My husband made me watch it and it changed my life.
It would change my life.
It changed the way I've thought about time.
No one talks about dark.
No one talks.
You guys.
I mean, I've thoughts.
Like we could talk about it.
It was a journey.
It's a journey.
Also like German people hot.
Hot!
As fuck.
Hot.
Yes.
I watched TV.
The thing with Dark is if it was just like the first season, I would have been in like
just keeping those two worlds.
But then when it started multiplying and shit, like I'm not smart enough.
Oh, I was like what?
I had to pause.
No, I was like, I'm watching dark.
I had to, we had to, like, rewind.
My husband was like, are you fucking stupid?
And I was like, no, I know.
No, because you have to use subtitles.
You can't dub it.
You have to use subtitles.
You can't dub it, or else it ruins the whole experience.
So any time I look at my TikTok, I would be like, bam.
What's happening?
There's a new world.
There's a new world.
What was her name, Marcia?
Marsha, there's a new Marsha.
Marsha number two.
I do think that shows like that do see, like, how.
The world is not so black and white.
A hundred percent.
And I do think that people who are successful in creative endeavors have creative minds,
and you're only limited by how expansive your mind is.
So think big, bitches.
Think big.
Where can people follow you, buy your merch, listen to you.
Give me all the tea.
You can follow me on TikTok at Octopus with two S's, lover eight.
And then on Instagram, pass that puss.
And on Snapchat, you can add me Octopus Lover 8 as well.
Thank you guys so much for coming and we'll talk to you later.
Bye.
Thanks guys.