Berner Phone - Jeffree Star: Down Low Hookups & Healing

Episode Date: April 26, 2023

Jeffree Star has left his ranch in Montana to come all the way to hell. He is on TikTok, has new makeup coming out, and has a ton of opinions on other makeup lines, hookups, and self help. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Burning Hell This is about to be a fucked up episode I have the king of white trash turned queen Hi Jeffrey Starr And I'm gonna tell you right now I'm I was never a makeup girlie I'm not go with fashion I was like a sports girl, whatever.

That's my mom dreamed of and she got this shit. Honestly, she was so into football and she was such a tomboy. It's like, surprise, bitch, and here we are. I don't know what she did in the past life, but karma never forgets. Never. So I knew you because I love documentaries. Okay. And I found, I was fascinated, but something happened where I was like, I need to like see a documentary about this person.

Okay. Because I can't with these like random articles. Yes. I want to know what the fuck's going on. That's rare. People love a quick soundbite and then they just think that's it. But you have so many fucked up soundbites that I couldn't even, I didn't know where to begin. But this was like months ago.

So I just got, I got one of the Shane documentaries. It was one like the first ones. The first one. Where he goes to, I guess were you in L.A. at the time? Yeah. And you show him kind of your lavish lifestyle. And then it just made me more interested in you to be like, but how the fuck did this motherfucker get here.

Yes. But what I do... It's been a journey. What I do remember is this bitch was funny. And I was like, why is there no things online talking about like how quick and funny you are? And then I come in here and immediately it's a comedy show. You guys are making me laugh so much.

People love the focus on the drama and it's like, that's a bleep of who I am. There's a lot here. And you, but you, you're not afraid of the drama. No. You lean towards the beef. You lean towards the drama. controversy yeah most people step away from the blood i want to do a snow angel in it see i'm scared i i'm scared when whenever i did reality tv whenever real shit would go down

they'd say don't say anything don't say anything stay quiet and oh that's where i want to just went in i feel like you don't listen anybody no no no that's why my mom resented me it's like i'm doing my way bitch the fuck so do you have a mother wound um yeah i very gaping gash yes we've tried to sew it we've tried to do super glue and it's been ripped open over and over and over where's your dad uh in the grave yeah that dumb motherfucker uh killed himself when i was five he said yeah you're too iconic sweetie and out he went and then single mom uh only child the stupid whore gave birth to one legend and then she stopped imagine what came after me the fuck could have been like the william sisters hello i could have been the makeup

Where's my two brothers? I could have been the Jackson 3. Like, I don't understand. So I got some interesting cards dealt with me. Single mom, alcoholism rooted in my family. In L.A.? Orange County. Orange County.

So close, I was only 50 miles down the road. Huntington Beach is where I'm from. Okay. So you're very close to wealth, though. Like, you see it. See it. Could never have it. Never.

So we come from, like, just really nothing. Always lived in little apartments. So when I moved to L.A., I never dreamed any of this would be happy. happening at all. I worked at the Mac makeup counter. Didn't know I'd ever be their competition. You know, I was just, I was just, I was, it was not, I'm the queen of manifestation. Really? Yes. What are your methods? What are your strategies for the girlies who are listening? Blood sacrifices. A lot of self-awareness. Um, mother wounds. Mother wounds,

continuous pentagrams. Um, and you know, you really have to like be mentally more aware and you have to be really like I just never said no I've been told no my entire life I tried to be a music star didn't work out so instead of just giving up and going back to the mall I'm like well I want to create a brand I'm not done I'm destined for greatness I just didn't know it wasn't going to be through a music career on billboard oh my god I have chills not to make this about myself but welcome to my mom I always wanted to be a tennis player my whole life okay and I like was playing number one for Wisconsin. That was my dream. That's all everyone wanted for me. It's all I thought I was. Yes, Wisconsin Supreme Court. Let's go. Go beagers.

Go cheesecress. Okay. And then I decided it didn't make me happy anymore. And I also like wasn't going to be top 100 in the world. Yeah. That's like. And as a person who feels like I am destined for greatness and I thought I planned it out and I thought I manifested right. And then the universe just wasn't responding in the right way. There's two ways to respond. That's it. You can be sad or you could say where am I actually meant to be because I'm excited to see the future but so you're not ever going to get in the music game never say never I've been asked that oh god I mean I moved on to athletes they can last longer honestly yeah so I'm on a new journey this year and we're not dating broke guys anymore I'm not buying dinner motherfucker like please if you don't have a job buy

how many straight guys are you hooking up with all of them I have so many friends. I have so many friends, though. Nowadays, the world's so fluid and there's so many different terms and things, right? I think that men in general are just horny. Yes. I think there are straight guys that love pussy. They love women, but they also just want to get off and they're down for it all.

Yes. And they like beauty. And beauty comes in all shapes and sizes. Absolutely. And guys love trans women. They love androgynous creatures that look like me. And it's just not really talked about So now that it is, the world's panicking

And everyone's having a fucking stroke And we're trying to ban drag shows And take women's rights away And I'm like, isn't it a weird time to be alive? Like we're digressing as a culture It is so weird They're trying to make it the Handmaid's Tale It's so weird

You can't perform drag outdoors anymore What are we doing? For what? What happened? If we're getting into the logistics of it It's like, then let's define drag like can you wear fake eyelashes as a dude like is this drag you're not wearing a dress i'm not i'm not wearing anything that makes me look like i have fake breasts no what is what is drag is it illegal for me to walk down the street in tennessee now or florida or can or am i just

jeffrey star or am i a drag queen what is what defines a drag queen literally they haven't thought this through to be like it's not black and white they just passed the law i'm like it's fucking insane so as someone who's dealt with a lot of controversy because you speak of lot of things Yep. What are some things you're passionate about that you want to, like, fight against that you really care about? Ooh, that's a good one. I always try to stay politically, not silent. I just think that when people come to my page, they want to view fun.

Yeah. They want to see content. They want to laugh. They want to see makeup reviews. They want to see what I'm wearing. They don't want to hear me talk about politics. So I really try to keep it. But now that the world is just fucking falling apart and I'm older, it's like, why are we taking women?

man's rights away and also why do we have to make everything so complicated right everyone is having their own different experience within the queer community based on their experience because some people I can't imagine the stuff you've dealt with how do people wanted to find you they've been so when I first emerged to me I was a lot of people's first seeing a guy in makeup yeah seeing a guy in a skirt with heels there was there was no like all the guys in makeup had kind of stepped down I always say this like I didn't grow up listening to David Bowie or or bore George or Marilyn Manson.

I listened to the Spice Girls and, you know, corn and lint biscuit. And I was very like, she's a 90s queen. That's it. I loved very backstreet boys in sync, Britney Spears, and then I loved Slayer. Like, I loved death metal. I love pop music. And I was always me. And people were always like, well, are you trying to be it?

Because in those days, transgender, the word was a secret. It was a mystery. People had no idea. And I call this the Caitlin Jenner effect. I hate that America and the world got to see the transgender. transgender culture introduced by this fucking piece of shit. Caitlin Jenner is a joke. Everything she stands for is stupid.

Have you met her? No. No. I'm not into cryptkeepers. So I think that when they named her woman of the year, what did she do? It was all such a weird introduction and the media knew what they were doing. It got so many clicks and advertisement dollars and it just became a blood bath. Yeah.

And then the way. It was so clickable. It was so clickable. And there's nothing wrong with discovering yourself later in life at 60 plus, but when your family's that famous, to me, it was just such a ploy. It was like, well, I'm the outcast now. Everything's changing. I'm just going to fucking, it was just so bizarre to like watch. And I don't know, you know, this is just from an outsider, right?

We're all this viewers. Yeah. From a viewer, I thought it was an awful way for the world to be introduced to the trans community. And it just put such a weird taste. And then for her to be so Republican and anti this and all this weird shit, what? are you talking about you're voting for people that don't even like trans rights yes it's so bizarre just stick to being a bitter old white man if that's really what you are it's and no one else is going to say that it's bizarre because the media jumped in to be like you're the face of you're the face and you're the

face and you were this athletic amazing man and now you're a woman and then to have that much power and then abuse it people who don't even like and abuse the power it was just sad to watch you're in the queer community and you're seeing all this happen the gay community has never accepted me. Some gays love me, like RuPaul and all the, you know, that's, it's gay culture. I'm in the gay culture. We're in New York City. Hello. Yes. Amanda Lepore birthed these motherfuckers. The fuck. I live for her. Yes. The new queer community, it's changed. It's different. I'm now feeling it. Now that I'm older, it's a different time. So I've always been me and I've identified myself as, yeah, I'm an alien, I'm this and that. I've always said I'm just Jeffrey.

But yes, I'm born male. I've never said I'm a female. I've even talked to about before and other people's shows where I've even felt like I was transgender when I was young. I just was trying to figure out who I was. So my mom let me experiment. She let me wear a little weird dresses. She let me buy skirts from Hot Topics. She let me rub red eyeshadow on my eyes and look weird and cut my hair and fuck it up and ruin it. And she let me experiment to discover who I wanted to be. During this process, were you bullied a lot? People are always shocked? No. My personality is so strong. Call me a faggot. I'm going to beat your fucking ass. I was never bullied. I had a great time in school. I was almost because you were just

being you. Yeah. And there wasn't like sometimes I'd walk down the hallway and yeah, some people would say some things, but I was never beat up or anything like that. I was doing girls makeup for prom. I was even voted on the ballot for prom queen. And my school tried to take it off and my mom said, hi lawsuit. How are you? And they let it happen. And at the end of the day, I got second place. That was so cool for a 17 year old in a fucking dress, nine inch stilettos from Hollywood bull. Boulevard, ripped up fishnets from Hot Topic, like, it was everything. Yeah. And people loved it because they had known me from, you know, when you're in a small town,

from kindergarten to 12th grade, you kind of all know each other. Yes. So when I started to be weird and shave my eyebrows off and all these things, it was like, oh, Jeffrey's just getting weirder. It was never like I got my ass beat for being the freak, you know. But we also lived in different times and I would leave the house and horrible things would be shouted at me. Yeah.

And I also loved the attention back then. I liked lashing back out. It was exciting and thrilling. Not to get like too personal, but you've never, you've never wanted tits. I mean, you know, maybe for one day. But no, I've never, I had those thoughts when I was like 19, 20. Like, do I want to be a girl? Do, you know, am I born in the wrong body?

I wasn't sure. And I also felt like because so many guys kept me as a secret at a young age, I felt like I had to maybe transition into a woman to be loved. Oh. straight up and I rarely talk about this but it was those feelings of like well am I going to be like the secret forever or do you have to conform to be or do I have to be a real girl this is my thoughts when I was younger yeah to be loved by a man do you like gay men like dating wise oh I'm like what do we think about them should they get I love this bag over

here oh you can't say that word I can To me, and it's all different, there's so many different levels of straight guys, gay guys, everyone, right? A feminine flamboyant male, whatever they're into, I don't care what you're into, straight, gay, lesbian, whoever you are, I'm not into that. Yes. Guys that wear makeup turn off. You want masculinity, you want testosterone. I like masculine. Yes.

Because I'm a man, so I can't say it, but I don't, when I look in the mirror, I'm like, damn, that bitch is sickening, but I'm not turned on by myself. I don't like, I appreciate a guy in makeup. I love artistry. Well, you're you. But I'm not sexually attracted to men in makeup or femininity. But when I choose to have sex with a woman, they're very feminine. Do you want to make plans later? No, my let's, I'm like, are we going to make out?

My simple straight brain, because straight people live such a boring black and white fit into a box lifestyle. That's why they damn me, yeah. And I'm fast. I've always been, I've been talking to my producer. about it like I'm fascinated by the lifestyle by the lack of rules yes and by the fact that you can have and you're shocked by how many penises me and him have in our mouths I am so I'm so shocked by the straight men because they don't tell the straight girlies we are dumb they don't no we do not share that they but guys are just horny they want their dick suck and like they're protecting each other

which is totally valid but then one day my gay friend will just be like honey we are hooking up with all your men and then I'm like where have what am I I'm scrolling my phone while this is all happening yeah can you can you know like literally when you look at a straight man can you tell immediately if he'd be down if he looks at me yes how he looks at you but you're like gorgeous like I went just okay everyone looks at you like I'm ready for how ignorant I am so I live New York I've been coming here forever right yeah I had never been to a Starbucks reserve this is the dumbest thing I'm ever going to say today but when we but when we go out people are like, of course there's fans and customers and people of my brand, but then it's just dudes.

So some dude was like, oh, my girlfriend loves you. And I was like, oh, I think she'd let us hang out? Number. It's just like fun. So it's fun until next you know he's having an orgasm. And then you're like, oh. And then she's at the door killing me. Yeah. Oh, yes, thriller. I want to understand where it comes from that you enjoy the drama. Because let's be honest. let's be honest because it's it's it's a feeling it's like it's it's getting someone to feel something because I feel like the whole world's so kind of like we're in this weird dead spot at COVID made everyone so dead inside yeah so even prior to that it's fun to make people react like the internet was born I hopped on that motherfucker at 16 years old I've been online for 20 years my space right my space even before that

face the jury dot com these are sites that the kids have no idea existed the internet used to be so simple y'all used to have a scale you'd upload a photo and you'd rate that person one to 10 that's how the internet used to be it was real simple remember no kia phones of course they don't right like it used to be a little different you upload a face shot ugly or hot that was it hot or not dot com was a site pre facebook yeah pre facebook pre my space so i've always kind of been on those sites and i knew how to get a reaction my space was the biggest site everyone's content was so safe i was on the kitchen floor throwing up fruit loops i was doing you know i was making i was starting conversations and making people like well like this is art and crazy shit yes it makes you feel alive to be seen yes and to have

and i was never seen in my childhood so much trauma and you know so it was just like i was neglected so to get so much attention from strangers by being myself it was very addicting that is really well said. Are you in therapy? Yes. I would love to see what your therapist is like. How did you find a therapist? Like how does one become Jeffrey Starr's therapist? How long is you doing it? Give me the tea. Through a Hollywood contact. Okay. So I am currently writing an autobiography with someone. They're amazing. They went to this person and so did some of their clients. And I didn't know I was open to it. but I respected this man so much, and we weren't friends. We had just worked together.

And I think because it was the way it was shown to me, I was also mentally ready because I'd gone through hell and back. And it was like, imagine six months into the pandemic when the world was so weird, that's when I started my journey, moved to Wyoming, put my mansion on the market, and was like, I'm going to leave LA now. It's eaten me alive. I've eaten it. I've had so much drama.

I played too many wrong cards. and I really got cut up in the bullshit, so I'm going to go disappear, and I actually want to heal. And if I have no career after it, that's fine, because I really need to do this for me. So I bought a bunch of land in Wyoming. I vanished. I stopped posting every morning. Like, for almost 10 years, it was every morning. I'd grab my phone first before I even blinked.

And I was like, hi, how are you? He? Yeah. And I had to really focus on me and recharge my batteries. Wow. Did you? So you had to fight this thing of, I constantly want to be seen to consciously saying I'm going to not be seen for the first time in my whole adult life yes were you scared of

becoming irrelevant being just you yeah you fucking you stripped yourself down naked yes in a farm absolutely and I think that with a lot of men yeah a lot of hot sweaty guys with beards yes you kind of created your own cult just yourself yeah that's that's the current plan and some dogs Eight Pomeranians, 300 yaks. Is it 300? It is. Well, about 280 in the last few months. Yack meat's delicious, by the way.

If you love a good, fucking healthy steak, yak meat's way healthier than beef. So in the event of an apocalypse. Oh, I'm growing my own vegetables. I have my own meat. You know, several men around to keep the family alive. How is Jeffrey Starr different today than pre-pandemic? Oh, I am not obsessed with my phone.

I don't let strangers into my life anymore. I don't, all my old behaviors, I had to change. It's been really nice to enjoy life. I start my mornings looking at nature, and I love marijuana. It's very healing. Yes. I don't drink. I don't really, I mean, I party, but I just drink Red Bull and smoke weed.

And I just, yeah, and I love traveling, so I'm always on the go. yeah yeah I'm always doing 10 things so I moved to Wyoming and then I turned it into a business because that's what I guess I do with everything without knowing yeah and here we are now I'm in seven restaurants we're selling yak meat all over the state and it's just this crazy cool thing I feel like even though you're superhuman and you're an alien yeah I see all the things you're doing and you also seem like a naturally like you love life like you love existing and I love doing 10 things at once I just I love every day I wake up like wow I'm mid- another day I made it let's go you know so it's a real like rags to riches story do you ever get scared of spending money um I used to so I spent all my money once in the MySpace era no one I had a horrible management horrible people around me I had no idea what the fuck I was doing yeah and I spent a lot of money ended up with nothing yeah had tax evasion all these crazy things and I and I mismanaged everything so when I created my brand and invested everything I had into it and I had a friend give me the last dollars I needed I was like well if life's going to bless me

again ever not knowing I'd be this successful then I'm going to actually wiseen the fuck up so very blessed to be financially guided and now I know what I'm doing I'm not young and stupid anymore you've made mistakes oh a lot of mistakes and also all the luxury items I know I'm decked out in this. It's, it's, I've always loved fashion. I used to be obsessed with the Vogue magazine at 10 years old, but this is not fulfilling when you're sad. People think money, you know, they always say money can't buy happiness. That's a double-edged sword. Yeah. Of course it can. But the, the stress that, and I when I say regular folks, people always get mad, regular people stress nine to five, working for the man, paying bills, working for the man, being, when they're

that is unlocked and goes away all the new set of problems get unlocked with money more money more problem absolutely and that song is very real so people you've never thought of in your life in 20 years come out of the woodwork and they're owed it's something and it's just it's a lot yeah when people get evil and treacherous and steal are you good with boundaries oh now I am yeah I'm in that place where I need to start being a no girl because I used to just I want if I can make you have Why not do it? Yep. But then next thing you know you're left with nothing. Yes, me before. So you got how did you do it? How did you start saying I don't care if people think I'm a bitch? I don't even remember the pinnacle moment. I just remember feeling to run down and but then as the new success came so quickly with so much new money from the brand. I was like from the get go. We're not we're not playing around. What man are we manifesting for you? What man? Yeah. Like do we want? who like actually like do you want to even settle down do you want to be monogamous with someone um i don't right now i don't even know if monogamy's real i think the white man invented that and women are just supposed to be

slaves and they just created that whole culture and they're allowed to fuck and do whatever they want and the bitch is supposed to stay home and be loyal not into it the patriarchy it's just not it and not into it so i'm the queen bee there may be three husbands around the house one day but no i actually love i'm still working on myself i'm at a great place in life you always will be um absolutely yeah i'm a never-ending the second people stop i'm like you're done you're done yeah or you're gonna you're not gonna grow yeah so i don't want to settle down and i'm not looking but when i stopped looking last time love hit me like a wreck and ball do you date through like like how does someone like you even date like is it the dms is it a lot yeah apps and then so here's here's a here's

the gag. Ms. Jeffrey here has never been on a dating app. Never been on one. How? How? A lot of DMs and then the football thing made even more athletes DME. It was like opening Pandora's cock. Like it was just a lot.

It was a lot for me. I was like there's so many options and shapes and sizes. So it's like whatever you're thinking that day, it's available. But that also gets boring. I love working. I love it. Like I can't wait to go work on makeup after this. And then I to do 50 emails and then I got to create an entire concept and then I have to pick pictures from

photo shoots and the collections launching next week and we got to promote it and do 20 TikToks and pre-film and then I'm landing at the ranch tomorrow it's non-stop it's non-fucking stop oh I love it but that little boy who is being kept as a secret yeah is it different now when you're fucking these football guys and you can't be open about I get asked that a lot so I now choose to be in those scenarios before I used to fill lonely or not accepted like am I always going to be the secret or why are married guys trying to fuck with me I don't want to ruin anyone's marriage or oh well you're a guy so I could never tell anyone it would ruin my career fuck off so now if someone's attracted I don't want to be

open with anyone me doing the little football thing and someone turned around it was very fun very Jeffrey the guy was down for it his team almost made it to the Super Bowl they didn't he flew overwhelming to fuck for a week it was awesome I love towing I make content for a living That's what I've been doing for 20 years. So I was like, oh, it started when he came out of the shower naked. And I was like, oh, you should just turn around. And he's like, he doesn't have any tattoos. But I was like, I don't know.

So I was like, well, you should like da-da-da-da. And it's fun. It's fun to toy around and play. And no one found out, thankfully. There's a few people that know. There's a few people in Wyoming that saw this person. We even went to Walmart. People in Wyoming are very quiet.

I thought like you've gone full circle. Yeah. We went out a few times, but people in Wyoming are very chill. They're very respectful. And it is the least populated state in America. And you love it. Cleanest air. Oh, she's going to live long.

Very long. Because, I mean, I'm sorry about New York City today. It's like... Oh, it's nice to be reminded that I don't live in pollution. The skyline's so pretty and gray. I love New York. I've always loved the city. It's so special and magical.

I mean, the energy's insane. Yeah. I think it's good to have a balance. Absolutely. It's weird that there's no snow this year. Y'all are getting a break from life. Global warming is a beautiful thing. When you want to wear a little dress.

When you want to be a hoe. When you want to be a hoe. I do think as someone who's done all the technology. Yes. Now we have TikTok. It's wild. You came back into my life during the Michaela drama. Yep.

Which, by the way, I'm wearing it right now. It's such a good lash. It's so good. Oh, the telescopic. The telescopic. That's why I was telling, like, when she was doing it, I was like, this sucks because the brand's actually really good but it was great attention for them oh my god they are whoever did the deal hopefully got a raise hopefully but it obviously they didn't predict all of this stuff happening i hadn't

really hopped on the tic-tok train during the pandemic i saw a lot of the beauty people dancing like idiots trying to fit in and it was just like chugie i'm geoffrey star i don't know if i'll be twerk into jason derulo in my living room like i just it made me uncomfortable and i just didn't feel like i fit in and the beauty space hadn't really grown and then TikTok has Michaela as their beauty queen so it was interesting to see the culture see all the YouTubers die out and like

where did everyone fit in and it's at a weird place right now especially because YouTube is actually financially so amazing I know but then TikTok I made so much money off YouTube and now beauty is dead YouTube's not dead right YouTube's not dead but you think the beauty it's not the same because of TikTok

no one is getting views on YouTube with beauty no one so as someone who makes there so much money on it yeah what is your initial reaction do you get scared do you think oh we pivot like what is your reaction i thankfully came to a place in life where because i've never been about the money it's it's i've been blessed to be so financially successful because i've made the right moves right and i invested into my company instead of buying a bunch of dumb shit early on but to me once i went to therapy lost millions of followers and had all these turmoil things happen it was like well if I can just be me be creative and stay afloat I'm okay wow and I'll be happy you had a

little ego death it was really great yeah the ego death is so important and I never knew what that really meant until it happened to me which and but now with this new perspective you're putting yourself back in the limelight absolutely so I'm actually enjoying making beauty content again for the first time in a long time and it was prior to the Michaela thing I had started doing fun transitions and uploading on TikTok every day. And I was like, oh wow, this is actually a fun space. It's changed and grown a lot. It was hard to wrap myself around like almost 10 years of 30 minute videos. Oh my God. And a video editor and all these things and like we're doing a TV show. We're doing a review. We're going to talk about every single thing from smelling

it to the ingredients to the weights, every close up. And then we're going to wear it for hours. Girl, those days are over. It's does it work or not? Hurry the fuck up. Two minutes. That's all you get. and then we want to know. So I didn't like that. My brain evolved. I get it. I'm finally enjoying Tickey. Oh, yes.

It's Ticotky. I was the same way. I didn't jump on. And then I saw what was going on and I said, I'm going to put six months into this. And I did the like two to five posts a day. And next thing you know, I feel like I found my people on TikTok because the algorithm really hooks it up.

So, you know, when Michaela did Lashgate and all that happened, And it did inspire me to want to review makeup again because I was like, wow, there's a lot of weird bullshit in this space. Yeah. I think Michaela's great. She's done a lot. The formula is already great. You didn't need the false lash. You know, for her team to have her never acknowledge it.

It's a little wonky, but it's working. So what is the new TikTok version of Jeffrey, like, looking at makeup and deciding you're just still yourself, but just in a different form? Yeah. And I'm not going to be reviewing people and situations anymore. You're going back to the art. The old Jeffrey would insert myself into everything because I am funny and I do have a big mouth. Yeah. But not everyone's thing I need to even be involved in.

And that's a nice lesson. It's so true. Because sometimes you don't know what you're getting involved in. So people may say the Michaela things drama. It's not. I tried a product that was being light on. Yeah. Formula's great.

The whole situation is bizarre. I thought it was funny. It's fun. You did not come for her throat. No, and I couldn't have. You did not come for her throat. But there's no point because I don't feel like that. And you also, it was a great opportunity for you to say, actually, I'm back in this space and I think there needs to be more voices.

And it was like, it was great. So now we're reviewing every day, every other day, having so much fun, doing cool transitions and all these cool things. And I'm editing myself. I had an editor for eight years for YouTube. Wait, you're editing yourself. Yeah. So, yeah, there are some professional reviews in me in a studio, but then I realized the consumer and the viewer, they want to, it now. Yes. So like Kai Lash launches today or tomorrow. Bitch, I got to go home and

review the girls are going to kill me. When you review like do you have do you ever have because I'm one of those people that as a people pleaser I'm like but it's fine like it's good like do you ever not know what to say or like you know. I just I take a hit. I try it authentically for the first time and I just freestyle my words. How you feel. Hadn't freestyle on the spot exact reaction. That's like some of the rare beauty sucked. Most of it amazing. The core of the brand is so sickening yes but you do see the live reactions of like okay this is a poor filling primer bitch the pores are here next like you just see the real reactions with no filter and as I get older I'm so comfortable showing it all I already showed all on YouTube every surgery

hair surgery teeth everything I just don't I don't care it's fun to show it all when do you decide you need more surgery I'm done I had all my fillers removed I was about to say you don't look like you have a lot of work done I took all the lips out I stopped getting Botox I grew my eyebrows back for the first time since 10th grade only because it was so to me weird and I look amazing thank you I love it like you really and you're and as someone who's funny like when your face moves it adds to like the moment like I know I agree you look amazing you I feel great like like black China who taking out all her filler I love that she did that I think she looks great but yeah so I definitely pulled that move and it was the best decision so you've learned so much from you know

judging all these brands and then you have your own brand we have the cotton candy collection. Yes, coming out next week. I mean, we love alliteration. Yes. What makes it unique? What are you proud of? Give me the tea.

So I love, so this is the year of launching new formulas. So I'm known from my eye shadow palette. So cotton candy queen palette, it's very pastel, very candy. You know, I look like a fucking lollipop right now. And for spring. Yes. But we're launching liquid blushes. The magic candy liquid blushes are coming out.

It's the best formula on the market. How long do you take? It depends on something like that about a year. From idea in my head to formulation, packaging, unit carton, the wiper, the sticker. Every detail is so important. I mean, if it's not perfect, it's not coming out. And do you care what other people think?

Like, if you love it and then, like, your friend, you show it to them and they're like, I don't think that's cool. How do you deal with your decision making? Oh, I love that. I've had moments like that or even the fans have had a bad experience with something, but it's because the lab that makes it, they're allowed to fuck up. So early on I learned the hard way about customer service Yes

One of my products did get fucked up in the middle I had no idea of making it And it got sent out to people without me knowing And it's your name on it And I was lashing out of people like You're setting me up because I've been so, it's all the trauma It's being fucking put down for so long I'm like no baby that shit is so fucking flawless

But yeah A palette of these highlighters broke That's the short version and they got sent out And I thought this guy was make Because people do troll Yes And they will be oh look this came with fucking They're shrimp in it with ants on it

And you're like bitch What what ant hive is that UPS? Well because you are as the Gordon Ramsey Of makeup Yes Like you're so savage I'm the Kimeon Sout I'm the Kimeon I can't even speak

I'm the Simon Cowell of Beauty Yes so you're savage with everyone else I think I lost the weed in my crotch by the way Or it might be in Where'd it go? Oh here it is I forgot about it Your Pussy's high There's hybrid in my kuchi

I do think like you're savage with everyone else and you're honest as shit you know that when you put it out there I would be nervy as shit that people are going to be like like you know microscope especially nowadays so like let's see like the liquid blush I see what's on the market I say let's make it better or let's give the customer new experience of the celebrity brands out now I know you've been talking about this a lot who are we loving who are we hating oh so we're loving a lot of the beauty changed a lot yes so who am i seeing still kill it i always go back

to fenty is the best example of a celebrity brand yes um a lot of celebrities have launched things recently and no one cares yeah so one of the least bought items is jennifer lopez's skin care no one cares no one gives a fuck so late in the game so weird the olive oil debacle the olive oils a very weird story. They're not really using that shit. What's interesting to me and really cool is when I made Jeffrey Starr's skin, I said, okay, well then, if I'm going to really do this, the formulas have to work, and I have to look in my cabinet later in life and start removing the lamarees and all this expensive shit that I've been telling everyone I love forever, because it is great, some of it. And now I open up my bathroom, and it's like mainly my skincare. And not just because, oh, I'm me,

but I've seen a lot of these people that have been to their houses. They're not using all their own shit and it's just a marketing thing and you have to be authentic like i think selina gomez actually cares about her brand i love the message i think it's cool and i always go back to everyone of course right i just threw road skincare in the trash i think it's not authentic i think it's horse shit just like the kiley thing i'm down to try her mascara tomorrow but i just think at this stage it's so road i love the smell i really like passion fruit the smell i haven't gotten it yet but it was sticky so as a consumer what was your experience you tried it was sticky okay and i i don't like to feel like my lips are sticking i'm a chatter i'm chatting chatting chatting keep up with me yes and i felt

like it was sticky and i don't reach for it in my bag because i go for the smooth i went for like the baby whatever i like chapstick the baby lips yeah and aquifer yeah but i why can't it not and it was like it's so smooth it's sticky am i people are you are you are People are influenced, and when something goes hot, like the Mabeline Fit Me Powder, millions and millions of units sold because Miss TikTok, and that's great. Is it as good as? I think that's actually a great product. But when then when things go like the road lip tie, it's just a fad.

What actually happened with Kim Kardashian's makeup line? Oh. Like, why is it gone? KKW? What's, what, Okay, this is, this is, it's like a family tree. Yeah. So in the beauty world, there's manufacturers that create the products for us all.

Yes. There's different scenarios. There's turnkey, right? Like, you could do a private label of existing shit and existing packaging. Like, you, like this can's already on the shelf. Yes. Because this is just a normal can. There's nothing special about it.

Or no, it's, it's not even Red Bull. It's just Hannah's juice. Yeah, it's Hannah's juice. And now this is green with blue. black lettering and a pink logo whatever right it's a stock thing anyone can put the and the formulas are on the wall da da da da da da other scenarios are I want to create fuckproof mascara which is one of my products right I'm creating the custom component it looks like a dominatrix a whip I'm spending time effort and money into customizing and creating something

from scratch or even the liquid blush which we have all the stuff for you today we Oh my God. I'm so excited. The component is custom. It's a custom shape. It's a custom 3D mold that was then put into real manufacturing and the machines were created to duplicate my cool thing, right? Which is more expensive. Yes, way more expensive. You have to invest into the tooling to even tool something. It could be $50,000, but then you own it forever and you can reprint it. So there is a company. We're going back to the answer, I promise, called Seed Beauty. They own Colorpop. They created Kylie. KKW and all this stuff, and I believe, allegedly, they owned parts of it.

When Kylie sold the brand and lied about the cost, she's currently being sued by Cody, who owns Wet and Wilde and all these brands, they inflated the numbers. She wasn't selling all that. They lied and tried to get her, you know, whatever that $900 million was. And now the company's suing because she inflated and lied about her sales. So Seed Beauty said, we ain't fucking with y'all y'all anymore. And they had beef with KKW and they were like, nope, we're not doing this anymore. So they halted the brand.

The website vanished and Kim K has been lying to you all. It seemed abrupt. Come on, truth tellers. It seemed abrupt. It seemed abrupt. It is the weirdest thing to live in L.A. And I don't seek this out. Because people, what the fuck?

How do you know all this? You dumb bitch, baby. Living in L.A. It comes to you. Or you're even at a different lab. Oh, my God. yeah you're in the industry is actually really small yeah the manufacturing side is very small everyone knows what everyone's doing we're going to go to a lab later they'll be running

someone else's thing and and that sometimes will happen to me and other people get to see your shit and it's all NDA'd and you just pray what do you think about about face by Halsey I think it's great so do I love Halsey I haven't tried it but I feel like it gives a different vibe than other people it's a different brand the formulas are killer whether she had heavy involvement in it or not i can't answer that yeah but i love how involved she is she's actually using it um and you can tell when these people are like oh my god my favorite is and you see like the celebrity and they're like you see their eyes move because they're reading their little i have two new products coming out and i'm like you don't know that already why are you reading it

oh my god this is so weird and it's just so like you're in a really what's the tea on ariana which one grande oh like her makeup line yeah okay this is going to trip people out yeah never tried it. Why do I feel like so many people have not? Do you know why I haven't? Why? She doesn't own her own brand. You're that rich and you decided to go with another company and they're called Forma and you know who else they own? Morphy. And I thought it was very weird that she would partner with the company to make all her formulas, do everything, just present her with ideas and she says yes or no. Why do I feel like people can tell that? You're not a real brand owner. So now that that form of filed for bankruptcy.

So did Morphy. They owe me $1.4 million. Give me my money, bitch. Not getting it. So I just want to put that out there. That's fucked. They're bankrupt. I'm not getting the money.

But they owe me 1.4, Ms. Thing. Yeah. Their lawyer said, and I ain't getting it. They don't got it. So whatever. They also severed the relationship with me and did the biggest betrayal in beauty history and now they're bankrupt. So life is very strange.

Was it a coincidence? I was so good to them, bitch. It was a shock that they did that to me. So, um, Ariana doesn't, she owns her own brand now. The packaging has even gotten worse.

It looks like clairs. I'm just, I'm just being straight up. Like, well, I know, you know when things are hot. But like,

it's, it's not. The lip gloss looks like it cost five cents from China. Like, no one's talking about it in a, like, we got to buy it. Make an album,

bitch. You're so fucking good at singing. Oh my God. Make a fucking album. I'm not trying the line. I get asked, okay, you've done Selena now.

let's do Ariana because they're a core little fan base of crazy fans that will kill someone for them are like well why hasn't she gotten those Jeffrey Star stamp I'm not doing it I'm not reviewing it yeah redo your line redo the packaging drop an album period we have one final game to play you're literally killing it in hell you're made for this I have a lot of land in hell really yeah it's it's more expensive than heaven okay um but it's worth it more longevity Yeah. How's the interest rates? They're hot. Girl.

That was so stupid. Oh, my God. That was the cheesiest thing I've said all week. Okay, what's the game? Give me the tea. It's time to play The Seven Deadly Sins. Let's go. Seven Deadly Sins. What are you greedy about? Ooh, cock size. Really?

Yeah. Yeah, there's no motion of the ocean, bitch. If it ain't big, bye. And you're bought them? Um, yeah. That's the only thing I bought him for. I love when the like dichotomy of being so dominant and assertive in life. And then all the guys turn into bitches.

That's my problem. They all turn into so many feelings like the little girls. And then I'm the fucking. You're like, we need to make money. Then Farmer Jeff comes out and I got a fight. Wait, Farmer Jeff is amazing. Oh, my beard comes in. It's kind of hot.

All the girls DM me, like, can we have some of that semen? So you're on no hormones. Oh! How often do you have to shave? If I want to look like this, every day now. I used to have laser hair removal. It's not permanent. That's a fucking lie the doctors tell you.

Yeah. Your hair follicles will grow back later. So years later, I get facial hair, but I won't get like a beard, like the guys I'm sitting on, like their faces. Yeah. How many days do you wear no makeup? I would say about how. Half the week now.

Okay. Yeah. What's your no makeup look? Do you do with the brows at least? No. The brows are now here. Just wake up and ready to roll. And what's your hair like?

Raw. Short blonde, like really cute. So she's already ready to go. She rolls out of bed, ready to suck. But this is my thing. As someone who's so scared of anal because of, I'm just scared. Oh. Do you?

Oh. Did you start small? Hmm. You're going to make them die. No, I've always been attracted to a really big things. Yeah, so if someone's shorter than me, I'm not turned on. Even if they have a huge long. You want a big boy to put you on.

Yeah, I'm already six foot. So if you're shorter, it's like I'm not really into it. But there's been exceptions. Who are you envious of? Ooh. I've never thought of that. Yeah. I've actually never been asked that. That's a good one. This is going down on the history books. Stop. Because I'm not jealous of anyone. But it does say something about you and that like. I really don't have an answer. That's so rare of me. Because I'll have a mouth. As social media. Are you not comparing? I used to. I've done so much and I've accomplished so much. I'm really actually proud of myself now. I'm not. I've had such a journey. I'm not envious of anyone currently or their path. Wow.

In a beautiful way. Yeah. In a humbling way, absolutely. Yeah. Like, as in, like, it's not about that. Yeah. That's, we're not playing a game. No.

Are you in the comments? Are you reading comments at all? I used to be obsessed. Well, yeah. Like, no. I post and I live. See, that was the best advice I've ever gotten from someone. Yes.

You don't have to read the comments. I was like, wait, you don't have to? No. They don't have to. dictate what you post. I don't read in them anymore. I don't look. I changed my phone number. I don't talk to stupid people anymore that were giving me negativity or bad energy. Yeah, or telling you. And it's just nice to upload and then go like and live and go enjoy the real world and life. And I think Wyoming has definitely showed me that like feet on the ground.

You don't have to be obsessed. You're making me want to move to Wyoming. Come on down. I want to do like, I want to make like an animal sanctuary. Yes, absolutely. Oh my God. Okay. I'm manifesting. What are you gluttonous about? What are you overindulging? that's a good one well before therapy everything I would just go extreme on everything yeah um shopping eating I have a fast metabolism and I just like I remember you're just eating like sweet yeah so I haven't had fast food in two years do you work out no well when you're on when you're out and you own a ranch you're outside and you walk a lot you're moving a lot you're doing a lot of stuff so I stay fit yeah so I do a lot like hiking you're doing manual labor

yeah it's really fun I can work all the equipment I have four camels now so I trained my camels with someone a beautiful animal trainer came and taught me the ropes do you have a favorite animal um my 14 year old pomeranian diva that's number one and I do have some favorite yaks that I've had since birth I can rub them to the ground and I can lay on them and they won't kill me because males and females have huge horns but they're really smart and they're really docile. Oh my gosh. Did you always have this connection with animals?

Yeah, I've always loved. I'm like the whisper. When I go to someone's house and they're like, oh, my dog's mean, I'm like, kind of lily. Yeah. I feel similar because, you know, they're not going to betray you. No. Like everyone else.

So dark. When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath or anger? Ooh. Probably 2020 in the summer. the internet imploded the whole world was we're all locked in doors a few ex-friends did a crazy expose about me and the whole internet melted full anger and wrath there's so much of this takedown mentality and what i say like that mentality there's a lot of people who it ends up being people who know you that try to hurt you the most yes how do we move on how do we forgive do you

forgive? What does your therapist say? Because you can't just wake up and be like, fuck these people. That starts eating at you. Me every day, the old time. It's about not caring anymore and realizing the scenario. It's like the crazy situation of whatever it is. You have to realize the root, why it happened. And I think everyone deserves forgiveness, but it's still okay to think that someone's evil and awful. Yes. But holding on to their evilness is so bad for you. poisonous. Yes. So I've let it all go.

Good. You know what I mean? But I mean, we're not wishing well on these people. I just don't care. You know what I mean? But yeah. I can also wish them well. I've been so blessed to also grow and have personal growth on the internet and people have

watched it. Yeah. So I wish that everyone the best on their personal journey. Yes. Oh, that was mature. I was like, are you good? when is the last time you were a sloth so like a lazy piece of shit didn't do anything all day I love sloths by the way they're one of my favorite animals I'm donated to sloth sanctuaries

you do you're so random I'm very telling yes I love sloths I think they're the coolest animals um oh god like when do you typically wake up during the day like you have 5am I have eight dogs they're not piss into my house no I got animals to feed um then the dogs the dogs drugs, breakfast. And then, you know, I create makeup for a living. There's manufacturers in Italy, China, all over, Romania, and I have to be on phone calls, and I'm always ready to roll. You know, we're all different sleepers. Yes. I'm a really light sleeper. Someone blinks next to me. I'm like, my husband, when I move, like, in the air. Like, he's just like, I sense movement. And I'm like, I didn't make a sound. I know. I'm a light sleeper. And he said he's a hunter. I know. Maybe you're a hunter. You can come hunt animals. my land. Have you ever hunted? You'd love, sorry.

Have you ever hunted an animal? No, I'm really scared of that. Have you ever shot a gun? No. I'm from Brooklyn, New York. Oh, my Lord. Well, yeah, I guess the only time I've seen guns in New York back in the days when I was sucking dick in Bushwick.

I saw a few pistols under some pillows. I said, okay, Puerto Rican King, you get it, bitch. Oh, good. You suck this in Bushwick? I sure did. Oh, picture 2007, Bushwick. Oh, my God. These current New Yorkers that are young, they don't know, bitch, they don't know shit.

In Brooklyn. I know. Booty shorts, 30 inch pink wig with all the, all the gangsters, strutting down Bushwick. My friend was a prostitute, and I would come and I would just live out here. People loved it. You have so many, don't go down there. They're going to fucking kill you. I'm like, no one cared because you just, all the tattoos.

The thugs respects me. They're like, damn, that bitch put in a lot of pain. What are you scared of? a small penis your team's nodding like I don't want to floss I want to be stuffed like Christmas what happens if you're so into a guy

and then he pulls his pants down what do we do scream no I'm just kidding so a few people were shocked by the similar answer is like I just like to send me a few photos before we're going to ever hang out

you want to see I like to know what I'm going to you're going to buy. Yeah, exactly. It's like, is the dick giving Honda or Rolls Race? You know? I don't care what your credit score is, but you better be hung, baby. My last question is, which is the perfect segue, wait, when was the last time you lusted over someone? But let's say, like, who's your celebrity crush? Ooh. I think someone that I've never had the chance to sleep with yet would be Jake Gyllen Hall. That comes right off the bat, just because we recently made broke back mountain jokes. I call it broke yak

mountain um but i think he's so fucking fine and then yeah he's giving very like boy next door type vibes oh i love it yeah snuff me out yes yes oh my god but yes the rappers come the quickest next i'm so obsessed with you okay final question what advice would you give to the listeners on how to cope with your hell when you're going through it when it's dark when shit is bad what do you do? Well

I think from someone that's lived so many hells I figured out there is a way there is an end at the tunnel like there is light but I think when you're in it you don't ever see a way out because I used to be depressed all the works right anyone can change

I made my whole whole life from nothing into this right yeah and i think when you're in the hell you just have to you have to be hopeful even though we all know we felt the depths of fucking rage depression literal hell i just know that there's always a light and everything's going to be okay but that's just so hard to tell someone when they're in it i know and for someone to go from depression to like literally being up and adam at 5 a.m. taking care of so many things running a business trust the process but that's the dumbest thing because i feel like if someone told me that I'd just give them the middle finger but like I had to trust my process and the pain though made me so much better so like I know it sounds a little masochistic enjoy the pain a little lean in lean in baby well you have to feel it you can't ignore it no so once you're able to feel it all you can then heal and then it makes for an amazing story which we love we love a storyline every inch yes every fucking star you were incredible

Thank you. Are we going to get high now? Oh my God. I'm a crier. No, you're not. Do you want a little baby hit? I have to do stand-up tonight. Otherwise, I would.

Am I going? Oh, my God, you can. I'll tell you, I'll tell you the tea. Okay. It's like, you know, it's a little club. I like that. It's a little thing. I just love comedy.

There's comedy clubs in Wyoming even. There is, wait, I have to play it. There is. You want to open for me? Yes. Get a good solid 10 minutes? I'll launch my only fans that night. Yeah.

I'll do a dick-sucking tutorial before your main act. That's important. Actually, it's very on brand for me. Yes. The girlies need and the gays. Question, where can people follow you, buy your shit, give me all the goods? I'm everywhere. Literally everywhere.

If you just type in my name, you either are going to get hard, you're going to throw up. You're going to feel a lot of sensations, hot, warm, colds. But jeffresteard.com, it's the hub to my makeup brand. skin care, yak ranch, all of it. And what day is the Cotton Candy Queen collection launching? April 14th. Gorgeous. Yes, 10 a.m. Pacific Standard Time.

That is 1 p.m. Eastern Standard Time. Okay, Methodician. On Jefferystar cosmetics.com. Thank you for coming. Thank you for having me. Thank you. Yes. Anal.