Berner Phone - Josh Flagg: Real Estate & Real Anxiety

Episode Date: September 9, 2021

I've watched Josh on Million Dollar Listing LA for years and today I got to take him from West Coast heaven to hell. He jokes about his new dog, being a leader, getting tipsy, and negotiating tactics to become the top real estate agent in LA. I also intro the pod with a little life update and my opinion on the mental health conversation around Naomi Osaka and Simone Biles!--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

What's up my little devs? What's up my Piquito diabolos? I don't know if that was correct, but I felt it. It was right at the time. Anyway, we have a pretty tipsy Josh Flagg coming up today on Burning in Hell, which is iconic. But I want to do a little intro to catch up with you guys because I've been traveling the nation, meeting little devils, meeting gigglers, and being in the flesh, which I hate to say, but being in the flesh and meeting you guys has been everything, because especially during the pandemic, I'm doing Zoom pods, and you feel disconnected from stuff. And then you're doing reality TV and people are, you know, watching you on a screen of something you filmed months ago that's been altered. And I like just being all of me and be able to connect with all of you. That's a John Legend song, I think.

Regardless. I'm just very happy to meet you guys in person. And what are some of my shows coming up? I have New Jersey, Buffalo, Nashville, New York City, San Francisco, Tempe, Tempe, I'm not sure, Irvine, Orlando, Tampa, and Raleigh, North Carolina, and Maryland. But it's been a journey traveling to other cities, and I want to give you a little update on that. But first, I've gotten a bunch of messages, obviously, because there's been a lot of time. tennis drama going down and people like Hannah you can't be quiet during this time and I'm like valid point because I'm not one to stay quiet during any time but um obviously Naomi Osaka has been

going through some stuff we witnessed Simone Biles going through some stuff and I know you guys know I've been going through stuff I'm burning in hell since day one day one's though but I you guys know that I suffered from a lot of anxiety when I came to sports I had really bad performance anxiety and I thought I was just crazy because people didn't care as much about the mental part of the game in terms of like having breaks in terms of meditating it was more just like be tough be strong never be weak which I'm now working on in therapy but yes I have a new therapist which has been really exciting which I want to update you guys on too oh I love it's like I'm leaving a really long voicemail to someone who might not listen

but it's good to get this stuff out so my opinion on naomi osaka who if you haven't been following it she has said she was dealing with some depression she said she dealt with a lot of anxiety when i came to interviews so she tried to not have to do interviews but then she got in trouble with the wta she got fined she dropped out and then she's kind of been losing but as this is happening she's also becoming like one of the most famous athletes and highest paid athletes in the world and it's not a coincidence it's happening at the same time but it kind of sucks because you're like wait with all this success does it mean you're not the same person anymore and you're dealing with all this bullshit you don't have to deal with before because I mean the come up is fun the come up

it's even like an entertainment people don't know who you are they want the next best thing they meet you they like you and then you're the new shiny toy that everyone wants a piece of and then once you get up and you become successful then you've a target on your back and you've a lot of pressure on you um and people deal with that pressure differently and a lot of his mindset but i don't think it's a coincidence that simone byles and naomi osaka were both struggling with performance anxiety um and mental health stuff because this is the first time that stars have grown up in my opinion, with this much social media.

And you guys, we forget that social media is bad for you. But we all enable it because that's just what we do. No one will tell their friend like, hey, you've been on Instagram a lot today. You should get off. Never once. Never once have I said that. Have I said it to myself and not listened? Yes.

But if you think about it, Simone Biles wins. And then for four years is the face of almost the Olympics, not just USA gymnastics, plus all the press of the trauma of Larry Nazzer Voldemort and you're dealing with it not just with a couple newspapers that you could not look at if you don't want to you're getting notifications on your phone even if you're trying to ignore it you go to message your friend your friend tells you you go to send a message a DM and you see it flooded you get an email about yourself you get Google alerts I mean it's important possible and it's like I feel like celebrities have never been more aware of the amount of people

that have opinions on them and but celebrities can control kind of their performance and you know how they control it they fucking hide they hide or they get paparazzi to show them in a certain light where athletes you're raw out there and it's judgment day and you have to perform with all the shit going on in your head of what people are thinking of you um people don't talk about about it but in women's tennis there's a lot of betting that happens and because women's tennis is a little women's tennis it's easier for there to be upsets because the serves aren't as strong if that makes sense it's a little more crazy the results so people get into betting and when you lose a match this didn't happen to me because I wasn't playing at the level of tournaments that people were doing it at

but apparently you get thousands of like death threats from people who bet on you and lost and Sloan Stevens talked about it Shelby Rogers talked about it recently so this stuff is coming out but the fact the matter is the internet is a dumpster fire it's a dumpster fire but it's what we live on we can't just delete the internet out of our lives especially for people who use the internet to make money I'm not even talking about influencers but like it's just part of your daily life so that's when I realized like there was a funny meme like I'll mute you on my phone because you're not about to make me feel bad on my own damn phone and it's true it's your job to when you see something that's bad energy or when you see someone that's hurt you or when you see

something that you don't like you don't have to see it I mean it's hard but practice muting practice deleting you don't even have to like unfollow people just mute mute the fuck out of people and it's not mean it's for you to we've never seen as much shit and how people are doing their shit and what people are up to as much as we do now like that's not normal to wake up and be able to know what every single person is doing maybe there was almost a little bit of calmness during the quarantine to know like we're all dealing with the same thing like no one's on a trip to you know Cancun no one's filming a TV show no one's you know eating a oh sorry I had a sneeze no one's eating a dinner a fancy dinner no one has the new boyfriend we all were just lying in bed

sad and there was a niceness to that um and it's funny because I've been talking about mental health for a long time but now it's kind of like in and cool and it's interesting to see like how people talk about it because people also use it in a way to be like look I'm being so real but people use it for likes people use it talking about it and then there's also the like mental health people on TikTok that are like this changed my life or they're like you just have to make macho lattes and like they glamorize the wellness like recovery process getting out depression it's like it's not like that it's ugly it's shitty it's traumatizing

So, moral of the story, when people ask, what do you think about Osaka, what do you think about Naomi Piles, I think social media is a big part of it, and I think that they're not protected. Like, you can't tell her, like, you can't control her and how much she sees on her phone all the time. you know back then you'd be on TV shows or newspapers but it wasn't the same as being able to go on Twitter and seeing the millions of things being said about you that gets in your head and it's going to affect you and I know the average person doesn't have to deal with that but I do think we can take from it and learn from it in that what you're consuming creates your reality and it's all about perspective and if your perspective is not happy based on what you're seeing online, know that that's not reality.

What you're seeing on your phone is a contrived reality. I mean, that's what burning in hell started on. Just that, like, we're all going through hell. We all have demons. And as you guys know, I've gone through some really bad hell the last couple months. And for all you guys who are here and sticking through the hell with me, like, I fucking love you all. And speaking of you all, now that I just went on a long rant about how much social media sucks, I want to talk about my tour.

And just a little fun facts about it. So my first one back was governors in Long Island, where my Nana went, my parents went, my family went, and it was great. The crowd was a little chatty, but we sold out a lot of nights. They were very drunk, drunk crowd. Des and I did some stuff at the end because Des came to that show. City Winery was fun too. It was very fancy in New York City. I went to Philadelphia on July 4th weekend.

Des wasn't there. And we, I was like my first show alone. And I love the open. I get to meet all these cool comics and like their lives and what they're up to. And you become a team by the end of it because you're performing five shows together. So Philly was great. very cute town just like New York City but much cleaner and more polite then I went to stand my comedy club in Richmond which I'd never been to Richmond but we does and I did discover

that they have really cool scooters I didn't know you guys had scooters like a lot of towns have scooters that you could just scoot around these electronic scooters I thought it was dangerous des me and we overcome my fears and we were flying all around Richmond we found like one really good Jewish deli or like brunch place that slapped that's really the only word I could think of it's funny I leave New York City and find the one Jewish place to eat in Richmond but I'm finding a lot of these cities have way more culture than I thought like middle America doesn't get enough like every single town I've been to and city has like a cool area that's not just like generic you know um it has like cool artsy independent stores which

which I love. Then I went to Indianapolis, and I fell in love with Indianapolis. I know it sounds crazy, but, like, I really liked my opener and my feature. When I say opener and feature, I mean, the two comics that go on stage before me, and they kind of, I never say yes to hanging out, like, before shows, but Sarah was like, oh, do you want to get brunch? We go get brunch. Next thing I'm making friends with people.

I'm like, am I moving to Indianapolis? And then we went out the last night, you guys, I never go out. I never do. I'm on a detox from reality TV but they were like let's go to a bar we get to the bar I'm like whatever we do I just I don't want to go to a club I want something low key we get a conversation we're at the bar and it's pretty it's too low key and someone's like hey my girlfriend's across the street do you want to go to the club and I was like you know what fuck it we go it was insane I we talked about it on Ben Polizzi episode definitely listen to that episode he's hysterical um and let's just say your girl

needed about a week or two to get over that hangover um i went too hard then i went to lovely live in west nioch that's like near westchester and then it started to get crazy because i went to texas i went to houston and dallas and um i was very confused as to if texas is the south or not and turns out texas is just texas they were like we're texas and we're texas and were our own thing and I'm like I googled it you guys are the south and they were like nowhere Texas and then sometimes like you want to get the audience to make you feel well you want to make the audience feel like you care about where they're from and I do I'm very interested in it but I'll name like a sports team and I said go cowboys but I said that in Houston and I almost

got stampeded a guy in the front stood up and I was like this is it this is how I die at least I'm doing what I love and then I was like where are there and then I go go Texans and then they all started cheering but um that was scary for me then i went to east hampton and like my family was there but it was at this kind of like musicy cool venue um and i did it with des's so des was an ireland selfish so i did it with does his brother aden who is basically does except younger talks exactly the same looks pretty similar and he's a comic and he did great and then i went to kansas city this last weekend guys we're on a journey together and kansas city had the best barbecue but they made a to me because I was just like ordering from my hotel room apparently I ordered from like two fast food

places they're like those are chain restaurants how could you and I'm like I'll be back and then I'm like I don't know when I'll be back but um chain restaurants had incredible barbecue I got the burnt ends which don't sound good but believe me they are a little pulled pork got some biscuits and gravy and then I heard biscuits and gravy is not even their thing but you know what I eat my way through places and it's been fun um but that's been my journey I I've now put my focus on my comedy, and I also have been talking to a new therapist, and a lot of it has been working on, like, a lot of stuff in my past that I don't even know still affects my decisions today, still affects my mindset today. So working that through, it's almost like, I feel like every couple years you have to just, like, get back in there and be like, how do we feel about this? where is our perspective on this and recently i've been working on just having faith and like

learning to trust that you know the universe knows what's going on and and i don't have to be so hard on myself or so negative to myself when things don't work out and you guys on this podcast you've you've heard me from the beginning which before i even like had done a tv show you heard me when i was on my highs you've heard me on my lows and um there's been times and I'm like I don't know if I can do this because I don't feel like I'm in a good place to talk and try to make people feel better about their mental health but that's part of the journey and I want you guys to message me DM me little devils DME any people that you want me to have on that recently are interesting to you also I think DES is going to come back on so let me know if you have any specific questions for him and let's Let's get into this Josh Flag episode, because I've been watching Josh Flag on Bravo forever, and I was a little starstruck, and he was a hoot. That's how I'm going to describe it. He was a hoot, lots of personality, and enjoy. Welcome to Hell. Do you like being a boss? Yeah, I do.

Because leadership doesn't just come naturally to everyone. Yeah, apparently, according to my staff, it doesn't come very naturally. Welcome to Burning in Hell What is up, guys? Welcome to Burning in Hell. I'm your host Hannah-Berner. What an exciting episode we have today. We have Josh Flagg, who I'm obsessed with.

I've seen him on TV forever. And he is a very accomplished man. He's sold over $2 billion worth of property. I don't even know how to count to a billion. I don't think a lot of us. do. He is among the top real estate agents in all of Los Angeles. He's sold homes for a lot of famous people, also the star of Bravo's Million Dollar listing. And he's involved in tons of charities. And he has tons of passions. And we're going to delve into who the real Josh Flag is today.

Josh, thank you for coming hell. Thank you. How are you? I'm doing very well. Where are you right now? Are you in L.A.? And my dining room? Where are you? amazing i'm currently in my apartment the lower east side are you wearing a sock on your microphone he's calling me out without the sock the peas pop really loudly and i did lose the top of it and i apologize if this is super you change the sock every day or use the same stock i change the sock depending on my mood like this is this is a cat sock because i love cats nice no josh

Did you originally think that you were going to be on reality TV? Was that ever in your manifesto? Yes. Really? No, I didn't think I was going to be on TV, but I knew that I would somehow be on television. Very interesting. Did you always want to be in real estate as well?

Or was that just a side money thing in the beginning? When I was a kid, Fred Savage from the Wonder Years, told me I should be a theatrical agent. And I wanted to do that for many years. And then my uncle who was at William Morris said, well, you got to start reading variety in the trades. And my parents got me a subscription to it. And then the varieties would come to the house and then I wouldn't read them.

And then eventually there was like 60 of them stacked up. And my mom turned me like, you're not going to be an agent. What the hell are you doing? You haven't even read one of these. So that was when I decided to shift my career. I love that because really the only thing an agent needs to. do is know people's names and variety and negotiate. I don't need to know anything about houses either. Is it nerve-wracking to have to negotiate deals on television, or do you love the high?

I love the negotiation. I love the check that comes in. I love people. So you have to be a people person. Do you actually like being around people and learning about new people? No, I'm kidding. Okay, because that's kind of weird. Yeah, I'm very good with people. I'm terrible with negotiating. Like, I will just, I'll do everything for free if I didn't have an agent. Do you have any easy advice for me on negotiating tactics to get anything? It sounds like you just suck at it. I'm so bad. I will fold immediately. I'm like, they have a family. They have it or done. I would just say stop paying retail. I get that. Now, you also are married. Congratulations.

Thank you. As someone who knows that there's always, like, beautiful people in L.A. and beautiful houses in L.A. and more money and more this. What made you decide to settle down and get off the market with Bobby? I didn't want to die alone. Why do people get married? I don't know. How have you answered that? How was he different than other guys you'd met in the past? He's very smart. He's very handsome. He's very considerate. And he's a lot of things that I'm not. You're a Leo, aren't you? Absolutely. I'm a Leo too. We are fiery. We're fire signs. But you have other passions.

You are into art, travel, classic cars, interior design, tons of things. How do you find the time to have, like, actual hobbies and collections? Because I feel like you must be working all the time. I am, but, you know, I also go to bed every morning at like 4 a.m. So I have like four hours, like five hours in the night that nobody can disturb me or bother me. And I can just, you know, surf on first gifts or Christie's and I can buy things. That's how I do it. Wait, so you're up all night. I just like buying shit. I get maybe five hours of sleep. I wake up a little late. I wake up probably like around nine. Yeah. Five hours of sleep. Oh my. And you function.

Not really well. With alcohol, I do. I get it. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal. We want to win a championship.

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Christina Williams and IHart Women's Sports Production in partnership with deep blue sports and entertainment on IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal. We want to win a championship. I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, in case you missed it with Christina Williams.

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I feel like I talk to Ryan Surnan, who's the New York guy, and he's just like, I'm up in the morning. I'm working like crazy. I'm scared that I'm going to lose all my money one day. I hate people like that. It made me upset. It made me upset. Oh, I went to the gym. it for and then I had a protein shake and then I walked the dog and then I bought it shut the

fuck up well it sounded like he basically was like I'm always scared and I'm not always happy and I always need more and I was like oh no is that the secret to success I hate positive people like that's like off you like if I'm doing it 5 in the morning I'm sleeping I'm not going to the gym and by the way I don't believe it either yeah I don't believe any of those people that say they're up at 4 in the morning. You know why they say that? Because no one else is a fucking awake to prove them wrong. They have no witnesses.

There's no witnesses. Nobody's out of the 4 in the morning. I don't buy it. What do you think your secret to successes? Alcohol. What's your wine of choice? Today, I think I'm drinking a phronsia out of the box. I love it.

I love it. He's highbrow. he's lowbrow what percentage of time that you're filming are you drunk um the question should be what percentage of my day is all my drunk um i wouldn't say i'm ever drunk i would say there's just a consistent flow of alcohol throughout a day might be a bloody mary for breakfast and then maybe two and then around lunch time maybe a glass of sauncer and you know maybe evening a bottle of wine or two. It sounds like such an elegant lifestyle. Yeah, it's not like I'm like a, you know, like I'm all over the place, like a drunk or anything. I mean, I'm completely, you know, I do it very

elegantly. Well, I was about to say when you answered just holding your glass of wine, I was like, oh my God, I'm nervous. He's so classy. Yeah. No, I'm not like drinking out of a box or, you know, sitting in my car pounding back some beers, you know. I'm, I'm a classy drunk. I saw recently on your Instagram, you have a picture with Josh Altman. Now, I don't know the update about you guys, but I mean, obviously he's like super competitive and stuff. How the fuck are you guys still friends after all these years of reality TV? We're not friends until this year.

Is this your first year that you're getting along? Yeah, we hated each other. We hated together for a really long time. How did you manage to forgive and forget and open up to a friendship with him? I felt sorry for him. Oh, my God, you're so iconic. I can't handle it. I know. Okay. Overall, you have an incredible energy of confidence, but what are your biggest insecurities?

You look incredible today. Thanks. What's your biggest insecurities, though? Like physically, emotionally. Oh, my God. Where do you want to start? How long is this podcast? Oh, my God. Oh, by the way, my dog is a psycho.

ate the baseboard of my house this morning. Oh, no. Is it cute at least? I don't know. You tell me. Oh, my God. What a fluffo. What's his name?

His name is George. George, let's not eat the floor. Yeah. Okay, bye, bye. He ate another dog. He was actually just fired from his dog walker. I just got home right before the podcast. And the dog walker.

that I had to talk to you. I go, what's wrong? He goes, I have to fire George. I go, why? He goes, he bit another dog today. I go, it's impossible. George is like the sweetest fluffiest animal. He goes, I can't control this dog. Like, and literally this dog had 30 weeks of training. Like, this dog should have been able to come back from the trainer and fucking like program on website. I thought this dog was going to be so smart. Like, he should have been like write JavaScript, right? This dog literally is so dumb. He ate the drywall yesterday. he is right now chewing on my foot he is so cute

and I'm really considering sending him back and he was just fired what dog gets fired I can't handle it because he was eating drywall he ate the dry wall who eats drywall he's trying to poison himself

he's trying to get out you know what that wouldn't be the worst thing I'm really up my like literally I'm so pissed he ate he fucking pissed on a $40,000 rug. I'm so unhappy about it. I'm really unhappy because this dog literally was close to $30,000.

Shut. I swear to God. If this dog was like, I rescued him at the shelter and he was like $300 for a vaccination or a shot and we're good to go, I wouldn't be so pissed. But this dog, I was sold a bad bill of goods. Well, they say sometimes the pure breeds are like a little bit stupid because, yeah, there's so much um what's it called incestual shit happened to know his name george nothing why did you and bobby decide to get a dog together because my friend tracy who's on the show

has a dog which is from the same reader and is by the way perfect and i went to alabama to get this dog i flew there to if you're going to live with some reality show in itself if you're going to alabama 15 years you want to make sure that you like the person right so like i don't know these people like got by dogs and don't meet them so i flew out there didn't like the first dog flew home flow out again and then this dog was so well-behaved and great and just beautiful such a sweet dog i didn't realize it was the devil also i love that we got his shit together for like the hour you were there he knew literally it was lady where probably i probably left and they're like sucker by the way he was returned by another dog owner now i know why now you know why oh my god

they said it was at the family was allergic and then i was thinking about it this is the most hypoallergetic dog it's now all coming together they were allergic to his personality seriously well do you think that you guys are going to have babies like human Like human babies? Yes. I want to when I'm 40. So in about 10 years. Yes. Why are you waiting? Why am I waiting? Because I enjoy my life currently. Yeah, that's what I'm currently dealing with. I'm like, if I have kids, then it's 18 years to shit. Or, I don't know. I don't know. I can barely mother myself. But people are like, oh, your instincts, your parents, parenting instincts will come i'm like well i doubt it because i have a cat and she basically takes

care of me at this point that's a really scary it is josh do not try to because i have a dd too do not try to push me around what's your biggest insecurity that wasn't one of the questions you know those are the questions at the end those are the hard ones we just have a couple beforehand My biggest insecurity, probably just accept, like people liking me, like having to be the center of the room, acceptance, people always thinking at the best, the richest, the this, the that. Like, I have to always, like, prove myself. Sam, I get it. But you were lucky that you were mentored. And, I mean, I need to bring up Edith because I am a huge Edith fan.

I love her to death. And she is an incredible human, your grandma. Tell me what. She was a Holocaust survivor. Yeah. Like what the? And then she not only survived the Holocaust, but then she's a big time entrepreneur. She was in fashion.

How'd you know that? Did you talk about that on the show? I don't remember if we did. I mean, I just did like a full 30 minutes of reading about Edith. I was like, Josh is really interesting, but now I understand the kind of people he comes from. She is. And then she would film. I remember when she would film.

Yeah. And she just, this, she shined. Were there any things that Edith would tell you about life that you think people should hear? Yeah, but none of them apply to me. Just fantastic. Really fantastic. Was it nice to come from an entrepreneurial family? Did you feel like you were going to be entrepreneurial because you came from that?

Because you didn't even go to college, right? No, absolutely not. but I had been to 70 countries by the time I was 22, so I had definitely a different kind of an education, but, you know, it's like my sister went to Duke. I didn't like go to college, you know, totally different people. Well, it's funny, because I'm similar where my brother has done like the corporate ladder and stuff, and I just knew that was never my story, but did you ever, were we ever scared? Like, oh, no, I didn't go to school.

need to really, I need to succeed on my own. I can't just use a resume. No, I know it's going to be successful. That wasn't an option. I was not concerned about that. I fucking love that. Now, do you deal with anxiety at all? Oh my God. Literally, every day. But it's not like a particular thing. I just wake up anxious. To the point, like, there's no reason. No, there's no reason. I literally where I gag in the morning. I'll like go and then I'll control myself. And then I'll go sit on the toilet and I'll relieve myself. So with your anxiety, do you think it drives you, or have you just learned to cope with it? How have you, because you're clearly highly functioning as an anxious person. Yeah.

How do you manage it? Not well. Yeah, I mean, it's really tough being inside my head. It's just tiresome. Yeah, I bet. Especially funny people, I feel like have the darkest, quickest, most constant thoughts. The voices. Yes, the voices.

is how is bobby's anxiety and how do you guys handle each other's demons together like does he help with your anxiety does he accept your anxiety well you have much anxiety i don't think oh i hate those people yeah does he yeah uh and it just makes me feel just like even worse because why you know i don't think anybody helps me with my anxiety you know i'm the only one who can help myself with my anxiety true but um he tolerates it i mean he got to married to me, you'd have to. I mean, that's not easy. It's part of what makes you you. Do you ever deal with depression? Yeah, I'm on Prozac. Hell yeah. I'm a shareholder in the company. What is the connection between like mental health and people who struggle with depression and

being like creative entrepreneurs? Because I feel like it's always together. I probably rather be less successful and not deal with all this baggage. That's so funny. Well, I also want to know, after you hit your first million and you're making more and more millions, does money equal happiness? Like once you have a lot of money? It does. Damn it. They say after your first million, it doesn't affect it that much. It's a lie, whoever wrote that line. Will you ever not care to make more money? Will you ever hit a moment where you're like, this is good?

Absolutely not. I can retire when I'm dead. I'd be so bored. Why would I want to do that? Do you have any advice for overall succeeding in real estate in L.A.? Like what makes an incredible real estate agent? Somebody who knows the market and knows what they're doing. somebody who's personable obviously tenacity somebody who wants to be social somebody who wants to

like when I go to a restaurant I always have the I they know what table to sit me in I want to I want to face my my back faces the wall I'm looking I'm reading the road walls because I don't want a good shot so I've looked in the room it's very important always have your back wall no one can stab you I have the mafia I work the room it's a shit I know what to do Wow. I know that you've written a bunch of books, but I'd love you to write a book about how to, like, take over LA socially. Well, we have a book coming out again in next year. I think in either July or September, Harper Collins is publishing it. I can't remember what it's about. But it's going to be quality. It's about me, obviously.

It's going to be premium content. Yeah, I know. It's actually really premium content. It's good. I can't wait. Do you like being a boss? Yeah, I do. Because leadership doesn't just come naturally to everyone. Yeah, apparently, according to my staff, it doesn't come very naturally. What are their biggest complaints besides probably George running into meetings and peeing on everyone? My biggest complaint about my staff or about what? That the staff complains about you.

Well, they don't like when George pees on the carpet, but you don't like when I on the carpet that's been the latest one okay before we play our final game I have to ask you if you went to a psychic what would you want to know who's the funniest guest you've ever had I mean I have a shit ton of comedians on

but probably you're just saying that you actually have you are way funnier and sillier than I thought you'd be I thought you'd take yourself more seriously oh my god now but it's because when you watch people on TV you just see that like external character they want you to see you know

well it doesn't want people to see this side they've edited this out Josh no I also am such a New Yorker and I feel like some I've met a ton of L.A. people who are very they take their shit so seriously they're always bragging about themselves but you have like kind of a New York side to you a little I feel like where you just like shit on everyone and everything which i love it's nice you're welcome

look at us bonding um one of yeah i've had a lot of funny comedians on but sometimes the comic interviews are the darkest where you're like oh wow i didn't see that coming so comedians could be pretty fucked up which is why we love them they're usually very depressed yes um there definitely has to be pain for them to like want to make people laugh that bad every night Like they have to be running from something real dark But I also feel like you could do stand up if you wanted You know why I couldn't because I have a horrible memory And you have to know like you have to have a repertoire

And I couldn't remember like I'm really good when I'm rifting with somebody That would have to be a person that was asking me questions or rifting Then I can take the room but I can't remember Unless it was a teleprompter maybe I could Well I do think you I know you started doing your interviews on Instagram, but you should definitely have a podcast if you don't already. Because the gift of Gab, just you've got to let it go. And you get better and better at like coming up with like riffs and coming up with funny stories, the more you do it.

Do you believe in psychics? Because you're in L.A. Isn't that what people do? I've never had my fortune told. Is that what you call it? Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell me my fortune.

If you could go to a psychic and they, could tell you something about your future what would you want to know never want to go to a psychic i do not want to know what my future you're like that's called anxiety yeah that's the last thing i want because in your head you still have a lot of things that you want to earn or chase or win or gain because you're only freaking early 30s maybe my my future's probably very short lips so I don't want to be told about it. They're like one day George, he's going to bite your neck. Anyway, I think it's time to play The Seven Deadly Sins.

Seven Deadly Sins. Who are you envious of? My father. Your father. Oh, now we're getting deep. Why are you envious of your father? Because he got to spend more time with my grandma than I did. I'm sorry I brought up Edith I didn't want to get you upset I just feel like I need to give her

praise whenever I can why would I be upset about it she's very responsible for many things in my life if we if we're going to cry in this pod that's okay too you cancel dinner time I tell them I'm sick is that the go-to that you're sick it is it the problem is it doesn't work when I tell people three weeks ahead of time that I'm going to be sick recently and I can't figure out why people think that's weird but apparently it's not normal to know that you're going to be sick three weeks in advance. I love that so much. I was like to sick today, but then I decided I felt healthy. Oh, thank you, honey. Especially with COVID going around. I do not want you to be sick. I don't know. Actually, they may what what are you gluttonous about? So what do you overindulgent

besides, besides wine? Food. Food. what are your go-to spots or go-to meals that you like to eat it's not about it's like i for some weird reason like i can't eat in a restaurant unless there's a white tablecloth i can't i has to be always the like it just i if i go to a restaurant like if it's it has to have a white tablecloth it has a great stemware it has to be great food like i'm just a wacko like that like i i don't know like it's just weird do you ever set up your open houses or do you have people for that now um I have people ready, I have people ready and willing to do that for me. Do you have a certain aesthetic that you always do for your open houses, or do you change depending on the house?

Yeah, they laid a candle and call it a day. No food? Fuck that. Not even some cheese and crackers? Yeah, I get some turkey wraps at Ralph's. Okay. When was the last time you experienced extreme anger or wrath? This week.

Why? When somebody leaked to the press that I was moving companies, and I was not even prepared to move yet. It was a, we were in talks, but nothing was solidified. And so the process was sped up, and I basically had 48 hours to move offices, I'd start over, and this person will soon see my wrath, and it will be very public. I love that. I can't wait for the tea to be spilled. And I'm sorry you went through that because that's fucked up. Living, doing business in public is just a nightmare. When was the last time you

were a lazy piece of shit to like a sloth, didn't get out of bed? Three days ago, it was my birthday and I decided to just stay in bed and watch criminal minds. Happy birthday. I love that for you, you Leo Queen. Yeah, I love that show, by the way. When was the last time you let your ego get in the way of something or like your pride. This is a tough one. Courtney, did we pre-write answers to that question? I don't remember that one on the list. Courtney, the last time you let your pride get in the way of that? Courtney, when was the last time I got out my pride in the way? Do you think you have an ego?

When I don't listen to you at social media. I like to post everything. so do you ever have a side to you that's like i want to keep this private i want to keep this to me not really to be honest with you i probably should though did you have any seasons of reality tv that were really hard that you're like i don't want to do this again because of the public would you say first 12 years oh same except i only lasted three no i actually love no i've never had any no i've loved being on the show for every single second of it Oh.

When was the last time you lusted over someone besides Bobby, who's like your celeb crush? I was going to say Bobby. What? Okay. I want to know, is Bobby your typical type that you would go for? Because I'm obsessed with Bobby. I think he's so cute.

My typical type? I mean, my type was always just, I didn't have a type. It was just attractive, you know? It was it like, you know, Latin or, you know, this. this tall or all you know whatever it wasn't like a you know jewish not jewish i never had a type if you were hot you're hot did you always know that you were going to be the one who's going to propose yeah come on i mean that wasn't even like up for negotiation why please i mean you can think about proposing to me it's not happening are you can flash mob and i did it in paris

oh yeah you did a flash mob that is iconic for me i'm i'm in a believe me, I will one-up you on a proposal any day. That's amazing. You're like, I want it to be like a minimalistic, but like flash mob power. Okay, Josh, you're doing amazing. You've survived hell, but you have one more question. What is it? What advice do you have that you would give the listeners on how to cope with their hell?

When you're going through it, when you're in your darkest place, and you get out of it. podcast. I know. It's pretty, it's pretty depressing. Yeah. But it's uplifting in the end. Which part? We survive it. I mean, you haven't survived it yet. Surviving, probably alcohol. Yeah. Yeah, it gets me through a lot of shit. And I don't like when people say like it's bad, don't drink, that, shut the fuck up. It makes it. Especially if you're functioning like, I am. yes then you don't do you like to party though like do you go out and stay out late oh my god i

still literally i i am i hate staying home i want to go out for dinner every night but i feel like that's what makes you a great real estate agent because you were just out on the town yeah to the pavement having a good time yeah you have to do that do you have any advice for like networking and being a good people person or is it just you're born with there you're not born with it you can't teach it if somebody doesn't know how to do it don't try and start learning it's it's in you or it's not in you

I'm obsessed I'm obsessed with it Josh you're a superstar where can people follow you where can people buy your books where can people consume you Josh Flagg won on Instagram and it should be Josh Flagg that's a motherfucker in the middle of the country

took my goddamn name both not but do you have beef with the New York guys I really don't really give a shit about them. Which, if you could physically fight one, which one would it be? Bread, red. Wait, I would pay to watch that. But I also would pay to see you go to Alabama and try to pick out dogs.

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