Berner Phone - Luann de Lesseps: Classy Flirting Techniques & Secrets To Staying Fit

Episode Date: August 13, 2020

Luann discusses how she became a housewife, who she is most pissed at, how she met Hannah, online dating, European men vs American men, getting vulnerable, how she stays so fit, her favorite classy drinks, how she’s handling quarantine, all the projects that she is working on, and the reunion. Use the code BERN for 15% off your order at AthenaClub.com Get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/BERNING --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Would you trade your, like, 12 amazing years of housewives and kind of becoming this, like, cultural icon to have a man right now? Would I trade it? Not for a man. Agreed, bitch. Welcome to Burning Hell. What is up, you guys? to another episode of Burning and Hell. This is a very special episode because we have the first ever real housewife of New York ever, ever on Burning in Hell. We are with the Countess.

Hey. What I want to know is where are you right now? I am in the Hamptons at my home and I just got back from shooting the reunion. Oh my gosh. So going into it, were you revved? up? Were you feeling calm? Did you have specific things that you couldn't wait to yell at people about? Where was your head at? My head was at, I always look forward to the reunion because, you know, it's the chance to say things that you didn't get to say during the season, you know, and, you know, clearing the air and making people understand how you might have felt about something, et cetera. So I was, I was excited for it, you know, and I'm having a great season. So for me, I didn't, go into it like worried about anything so that always helps when you say great season like you've

had so many seasons what in your head makes a great season for you a great season for me is um i'm not involved in some sort of scandal but it's more because other people would argue that that means you had an amazing season i know but you know it's easier to be on the other side peeping in to the scandal than it is being entrenched in the scandal. Is there anything this season that you really weren't expecting in terms of your relationships with people? Well, I wasn't expecting that Derinda would just keep on bringing up my problem with, you know, probation, et cetera, and drinking and, you know, Derinda's pointing her fingers at me,

and it's very difficult to take when you know that she's three sheets to the wind. because you're like do I take this with a grain of salt but also it's hurting my feelings because I'm human and to backtrack a little Luann and I actually met her a while ago when I was dating a guy in Bridge Hampton and we went to a local dive bar and someone was like oh my gosh a real housewife is here and I was like who and they were like that woman over there who's like you know having fun shooting the shit flirting with all the guys throwing darts having a laugh And I was like, that's a real housewife. And they were like, that's the countess.

Fast forward, your assistant Molly, who's amazing, messaged on Facebook, Luann and I are in Shelter Island. Does Hannah Britter from Summerhouse want to come by and meet us? That was great. And I was like doing nothing in quarantine. And I said, Mom, we're going to meet Luanne. If anything, we're going to have a hilarious conversation about our weird experience of life on Bravo. And I got there, and it was such a fun time, Leanne.

Yeah, it was a great time. It was really nice to meet you and your mom. Thank you. And you gave me some. It was funny because during it, I was like, shoot, I wish we were recording. But you were giving me some great life advice, boy advice, reality TV advice. But I kind of want to delve in. Let's get dark.

Reality TV, when you first started, were you all in? In the back of your head, were you like, this could be a bad? career decision. I, you know, at that point, I was really a housewife and, you know, I've been married for a number of years and, you know, television is part of my background. You know, I used to work for playing television for Barrel Desconi in Italy when I lived in Milan and so I was a TV star over in Italy and a show girl. And so, you know, I'd never been in reality television so when I was approached to do it,

through Jill Zarin, I thought, why not? You know, I'm somebody who's very, I like to take chances. I live kind of adventurously, and I thought, you know, this could be great for me. And that was it. I really went in not knowing anything. And I think that's probably the best way to go in because you don't get disappointed. You know, I never expected it to be the big show that it became. You know, it was a pilot.

And we got paid $10,000. dollars for the entire season. Oh, my gosh. That's crazy. That's like a fun night out for you. You clearly, like, love the camera, and the camera loves you. I mean, you've been modeling. You've been on TV shows forever.

So, like, but what do you think is actually the hardest part of this type of entertainment you're doing? Well, listen, I think, you know, the hardest part is that people think they know you, you know, and they really don't. they see a part of you on television and they think that they know you and they think that they're entitled to you and you know so they can say what they want do what they want and and and I think that opens the door to a lot of people that are miserable and there's a lot of haters out there as you probably know and and you know you got to turn that

stuff up because at the end of the day you're working it's a job You know, people ask me all the time. And how can you hang out with Ramona? I'm like, I get paid to hang out with Ramona. Hello. You know, but people, they miss that concept. You know, that's one of the hardest things I think is that people, you know, have preconceived notions of who you are when they don't really know who you are

and dealing with, you know, people that aren't always so nice. Do you think that obviously, you know, you've had your ups and downs in your own personal life, But do you think that the show kind of made things just some more intense? Like in terms of like you're drinking, do you think that the show might have made you want to drink more? Well, I mean, listen, it's certainly, it's certainly a show about, you know, travel and parties and vacate, you know, and, you know, a meeting for drinks, etc etc so yeah there's you know there's a lot of drinking going on especially this season on the show

but i'd be drinking without the show probably so you know i can't blame it on the show let's put it that way i mean i used to europe for many years though you know people drink you know lunch dinner lunch dinner it's you know very common place and um and so you know the uh i don't think the show And this came up actually at the reunion, which is, you know, about the drinking and someone said, you know, is producers, et cetera. It's really not. I mean, the ball is there and it's up to you whether to drink it or not, you know. Yeah, I find that if I know I have a difficult conversation that I know will potentially be on TV and judged in seven months, sometimes I'm like, one more shot's not going to hurt. It's going to help.

It never does help. also I'm fascinated kind of you've had this incredible kind of love life where like you were married to account and you've had you've created a beautiful family and then you find yourself single on national TV and I find I just kind of want to know like where is your dating life now where's your where's your head at what are you looking for or not looking for well where my head's at right now is I have I just started dating a little bit online because I've never done that before. And I thought, how else am I going to flirt with somebody? And I'm talking about the very beginning in like March, April when we were really locked down. And so, you know, I've been having fun with that. I find it's fun to flirt. It doesn't mean that I actually want to meet these people.

There's one in particular that I've been kind of, you know, meeting for coffee. and things like that, but I, you know, I'm just having fun with it, really. I'm, you know, I'm not, I'm in a great space and, you know, I have a full life. I have, you know, a great career and I have my beautiful children and I've got a ton of friends, maybe not 60 as many as many as Ramona. 50 or 60. How does she say 50? Anyway, um, I'm like, how many of those friends do you hate? no no she actually loves all her girlfriends um but you know who's got time for 50 girls in the same room i mean you can't possibly talk to them all i have one good girlfriend maybe if i'm talking to a guy and then i call my mom that's what that's all i can handle but you're a woman of my own

heart because flirting is my favorite thing to do it's pretty much an art form yes but you are i would say um you are a classy bitch and what did it advice do you have for flirting as Luann de la Seps? Well, advice for flirting. You know, I'm a little old-fashioned that way. I mean, I think that men like to be men. And women, you know, we've come a long way and, you know, empowering women, me too, and all that stuff. And I feel like, you know, somewhere that feminine part of women has gone missing.

And I think that that's men like that. And I can see why they like that. I mean, I like women that are feminine, you know? You're good at starting the conversation, though. So how do you do that without kind of like making them not emasculated or feel like they're getting picked up? Well, you know, I think it's simple. It's a simple, hello. How are you?

And I think also, you know, without, you know, going straight in for a compliment, I think compliments go a long way and people forget about that. Like, you know, I said to a guy on one of the abs, I said, you know, you are very handsome, you know, and he was like, oh, thank you. You know, it's, it's nice to get people compliments. I think people forget that. I think women need to be more seductive and mysterious. I feel like, you know, I would have to tell everybody, everything, you know. And I feel like, you know, people talk more about themselves than they should. feel like people should leave things open, you know, to discover. And, and I think mystery is very

important. And I, and I think, you know, really being interested in someone is, makes a big difference. I feel like, you know, asking questions, but not being an interrogator. You know, it's like a dance. Not making it like an interview. Yeah, it's like a dance. And it has many, there's many parts to the dance so it's like there's many things that need to go into it and and from every side meaning you know always go out dressed as if you're going to run into prince charming for me you know i i'm not big on you know i know everybody's into the casual leisure wear but wear leisure wear that looks you know that looks beautiful right yeah It's comfortable and beautiful and feminine.

So for me, it's about being feminine. For me, it's about giving compliments. For me, it's about being interested, about being mysterious, bringing all those things together to make the perfect perfume. We say in French, parfant. We should be remembered myself. But anyway, I'll listen to it later. Yeah.

It's like all the ingredients that make a nice perfume that you want to smell. And that's what men should feel. Like, they want to smell your perfume. Oh, yeah. And you want to get them hooked on your pheromones. Lou Ann, you made some really good points there in terms of, I think a lot of the time you're insecure as a girl and you're trying to be tough and cool. But then at some point, you need to, they're as insecure as you.

And sometimes putting your wall down and just saying, I think you're really handsome. Or like, I'm really enjoying my time with you. And go a long way. A long way. And then both your walls go down. Yeah, anymore. Yeah. Yes. A little deeper, your body is insane on Instagram right now. I don't know what you're doing, but I do want to know. Do you have any advice for, I feel like you're very comfortable in your body? It's obviously you are a model, so that helps. But like, do you have any advice for women? It's also how you carry yourself, though, and being confident in your body, staying healthy. What are some rituals you have, or even with your mind or, you know, diet or working out?

going to give you a great tip. And this is Europeans are thin because they, they don't drink while they eat. They sip, you know, they sip a good wine, et cetera. So you should drink 20 minutes before a meal and 20 minutes after a meal, you know, because your digestion starts in your mouth by your gastric juices and your saliva, which are breaking down your food already. So if you're drinking cold drinks, if you, you know, are guzzling a ton of, you know, right before you sit down, it's very bad for your digestion.

So that's the basic that I feel like a lot of people don't know. And when you say drink, you mean water? Water or anything. I mean, while you're eating, it's not good to drink, period. But, but, you know, and like I said, like the Europeans, they'll sip a red wine, you know, that's not cold. You know, cold drink in particular are not great for your digestion. So you have so many different experiences from so many places. Bring you back to the men and I asked you this on Shelter Island, but.

Oh, you're going to be. dating again, huh? Yeah, I know. Because I love talk, I love how you flirt and I love how you carry yourself. I want to date you, basically. But I want to know dating European men versus American men, what has your experience been? Oh, it's a world of difference. I mean, you know, well, we're seas apart. So there's a difference, you know. Oh, boy. Let's see.

Think of all your lovers. First of all, you know, first of all, there's a culture difference. You know, most European men speak many languages, you know, and I love that. I love a man with an accent. I find it charming, you know. I think that men in Europe are educated in a different way in terms of being, they're just more sophisticated. because they, let's say you live in Paris. You can go to London, you can go to Milan, you can go to Spain, you can go to Amsterdam.

I mean, you have all of these different cultures and people around you. So, of course, you're going to find somebody who's more sophisticated, who's well-traveled and, you know, and well-heeled. I mean, I think also you can tell a lot by a man by the shape of his shoes, meaning if shoes are in good shape, that means he's got time to spend on himself and taking care of little details like that, which for me is a big detail, is if a man is well kept and I think, and what signifies that is a great looking shoe, then he's got time for himself and he's got time for you is the important thing. It's funny because if people first hear that, they can be like, okay, that's materialistic.

but it's much deeper than that. No, it's not about that. It's deeper because you're like, if you can take care of your shoe, that means that you've taken care of your inner self, which means, yeah, you're emotionally available and know how to take care of someone else. I really like that advice.

Yeah, that's right. And what else about European men? Well, you know, I like that they... How's their lovemaking? Well, I mean, they're just... By far, I'll do, you know... Well, although I got to say, was a great lover so sorry okay um how overall do you think being on a reality show has affected

your dating life because you're dating grown men you're not dating boys who like want to get drunk on tv right i think it's very difficult to date on reality television especially on the housewives i mean just look at our track record yeah we started you know i got divorced rona got divorced Well, it's got divorced. Sonia's been divorced. Durinda's, you know, been divorced. You know, so I think it's very hard. And I think historically, you know, some guys just aren't good television.

And I think that it's very difficult to maintain a relationship and it becomes a work thing. And I don't think it's healthy to work together no matter what it is. But I think that, you know, reality television is certainly challenging. you're so right because just because a guy might be a great partner for you that doesn't mean he's also going to be great at being a reality TV star in your job I think it's a lot to ask there's only one guy that managed to to get through it and and charm everyone and that was Jacques we love Jacques would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year I wouldn't say anything as a failure

especially because we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal. We want to win a championship. I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, in case you missed it with Christina Williams. The WMPA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels

and embrace the new challenge that we have. For all the biggest stories in women's basketball plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars. So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run. So listen to, in case you missed it with Christina Williams and IHart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on IHart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because we all grow every day.

Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal. We want to win a championship. I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, in case you missed it with Christina Williams. The WMBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels. and embrace the new challenge that we have.

For all the biggest stories in women's basketball plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars. So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way and we're hoping to, you know, make it run. So listen to, in case you missed it with Christina Williams and IHart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on IHartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. you and like sonia or um the other cast members ever kind of does it bond you at all to be like wow dating is kind of hard on reality tv yeah i think that i think a lot of uh men don't want to be on reality tv which i totally understand so when that's the case you know we don't bring them on the

show and you just got to bring it on your own in the beginning um i didn't you know like my husband my first husband was on the show in the very beginning and then he was like that's your your gig you know you you go and do your thing you know so i think um i think you can manage it if you um you know if if if you have a partner who's really supportive you know and even if you do have a partner that's really supportive um i think it's bloody difficult preach preach preach it is to wrap this up I want to play a final game called the Seven Deadly Sins

Seven Deadly Sins What are you greedy about Luan? What am I greedy about Victoria? Victoria just walked in the room Would you say I'm greedy? You're dad? Hannah. We're doing a podcast right now

This is Victoria sitting on her. Hi, Victoria. I don't know, I have two. coffees over here. Oh, too. She gets here. She's greeting about coffee. Right. So I'm greedy in terms of my expectations from other people. And that's a tough thing to want because you can't people let you down. It's a hundred percent, a lot of the time. But it sounds like you have very high standards when it comes to people in your life. I have high standards for people because I have high standards for myself.

And I'm very quick about it. You know, if you go shopping with me, Hannah, I go, I can get out of a store and under two minutes. You know what you want. I ball the racks and I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And, you know, I'm the same way with people. I mean, I'm very, I'm a quick study and pretty, um, I basically know my life to be like.

Yeah, it's pretty immediate for me, you know. Well, they say, like, whether in business or dating, they say, like, if you're going to fail, just fail fast. Don't make it, don't stay with a guy for seven years or, like, be in a business you hate for 10 years. Like, it's okay to fail. Absolutely. And, you know, listen, I got a lot of, I got some flack for divorcing Tom so quickly, but guess what? You know? If it's not right, why stay in it?

Yourself. Who are you envious? of. Oh, I'd like to be, you know, J-Lo for a day. Oh, my gosh. I love J-Lo. Who sings and who does movies and who's got the guy and who's got the kids and who's got, you know. Her skin. And her skin. Damn, bitch. But I do kind of, you, I think me and you have a similar perspective where it's like, yeah, I don't just want to be, do one thing. Like, I want to do everything that brings me joy or that I can do. All of it. What are you? What are you gluttonous about so this is different than greed into that like what do you overindulgent i'm a glutton

let's see overindulgence oh well you know i would say alcohol what's your drink of choice when you get to like a date or a bar what's your go-to martini any day oh my god i mean i need a drink right now and it's i need a drink right now um a slightly dirty martini i call and what is any other classy drinks that you'd recommend since you are kind of you know how to party while being classy I'd say well you know listen I love a good rosé from the south of France even though I'm not drinking right now I'm fantasizing right now because I'm doing the quarantine a wagon um let's see what else a good rosé and a really good tequila yes you're a very social person I feel like and you're kind of i noticed whenever i've hung out with you which is twice you loved like talking to

random people and just like asking questions has it been hard quarantine for you mentally in in terms of like your social life or are you enjoying the space sometimes i you know i enjoy being you know with my children and my family but i you know i am a social animal so i i miss you know i miss bars yeah i miss that ambience like even when you're in a rest restaurant and the bar that's happening, you know, there's life. You know, I feel like that life has been sucked out of us, is how I feel. Yeah, now we're just stuck out Long Island with, but at least we're spending time, you know, with family and stuff, which is nice.

It's great, but I, but, you know, it's just, I don't know, it's, you know, the mass thing. And it's very mentally, I think, hardening. Yep. I agree. Because we need that human experience. of seeing someone and laughing. I mean, that's why I think our lunch was so fun because for about, like, 30 minutes, I forgot.

Right. Best day, 13, best, age. When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath, so, like, anger? Probably on the housewives. Do you try to control your anger, or are you, like, ready to be angry? Now, I try to control my anger, And sometimes I'm better than others. Do you ever, like, get really angry and you go, well, at least hopefully America enjoys that, even though I'm not proud of how that went down or something?

Because that's what I try to tell myself. Yelling at people. It's just not my M.O. Yeah. I can be angry without yelling. True. And I always think the most powerful arguments of when you can keep your voice calm. That's right.

But it's so much easier said than done. Exactly. Well, I'm more about that. And I even say that to Tinsley this season. And I'm like, go Obama on us, okay? You know, is not working with these women. Talk softly, so they have to listen hard. Yeah, if you just hear, like, the shrieky voice,

they'll immediately get defensive. Yeah, exactly. And it's, I do want to say that I, the recent scene where you guys were talking about, like, your job and all that stuff, I really did kind of take your side in terms of just, like, you have worked really hard for this. And, like, in this industry, we all help each other with friends.

So then when you hear a friend kind of accusing you of, you know, using someone, when it's like, we're all in this together. And, but it's so hard to fight with someone who's on a different alcoholic level than you. Right. You still want to defend yourself, but you also know that logic won't come out of it. Well, exactly, because some, you know, a lot of people can't be logic when they're drinking. But I also think even seeing you have emotion for the, that you're pretty controlled so far in the season. and you like broke down and you cried.

And like I just feel like I appreciated seeing you show a side of you that wasn't always like totally like in control and just didn't care what people thought because you're human. Yeah, sure. And it gets to. What is your biggest kind of like insecurity, whether it's physical or mental? My biggest insecurity.

Um, my biggest. insecurity nobody's ever asked me that because you seem like you're not scared of doing anything no i'm not i'm not an insecure person so it's hard to even think that's why i like wanted to ask you because i'm like what is she going to say you know i would say um i really you know miss a relationship because i love that kind of security you know so i don't care when i'm not in a really good deep relationship. Agreed, because that's just so comforting.

Exactly. I always say, you know, I just wish I had a man that I could just lay my head on his shoulder and, like, it would take all the worries away. But would you trade your, like, 12 amazing years of housewives and kind of becoming this, like, cultural icon to have a man right now? Would I trade it? Not for a man. Agreed, bitch.

Because you have plenty of time for that to come to your life. Exactly. I've got many years of retirement coming ahead of me, darling. Many of years in the south of France with handsome French men. To rosé all day. Yes. Okay. When was the last time you were a sloth?

So like super lazy? Probably, you know, listen, during COVID, I've been super busy. But in the very beginning, I was very lazy. and then, you know, I think everybody kind of was because you were trying to figure, okay, now what do I do? After all the Netflix, you could possibly watch it. And then, you know, then I started going online to exercise and just found other ways that are healthy to fill my time, you know.

But it took a while to get there. And so those first days of quarantine, I was really lazy. do you kind of let yourself have lazy days or are you tough on yourself hey no i'll say listen when you know the weather is bad i'm like good i have an excuse i have no excuse to be you know um what's running around no no no like i don't feel guilty for not going out good the weather's bad you know i'd say i are kind of staycations it's because if you're just looking at like your instagram it seems like you are everywhere all the time doing so many fun things even Like with quarantine happening.

So it's good to hear that you also let yourself have a breather sometimes. Yeah, of course. Maybe that's a European in you. Yeah. I'm, you know, I'm generally a doer and, you know, I love running around. And so it's hard for me to sit still. I think it was my upbringing, you know. I was one of seven children, so we ran around a lot.

Definitely not a quiet, peaceful household. No, always very busy. When was the last time you lusted over someone? So who was like your last crush? Well, or a celebrity crush if you have one. Oh, that Bradley Cooper. Oh, I love that man. I know.

Isn't he just gorgeous? His blue eyes. And he's just my type. You know, my first husband was like that. The count looked like that. He was blonde with blue eyes. He was, oh, he was stunning, my husband. You know, I think you should be in a star as born, too, with him.

Yeah. And he walks into one of your cabarets. Gaga would push me, you know, away from the page. So, Luann, I have one last question for you. Burning in hell is where people open up, and you've been very open and vulnerable, and I love that about you. But what advice would you give to people on, what to do when they're going through hell? Like, how do you cope with your hell?

Go inward, you know, cancel out those negative self-talk people that, you know, that steer you in the wrong direction. You know, it's interesting. I, you know, I went to Deepak Chopra not too long ago, and he said something that really blew my mind, which is true, is that your gut tells you exactly what to do. And the problem is, is that, which is your first brain. And there's more apparently neurotransmitters in terms of brain waves, et cetera, in your stomach than there are in your actual brain.

So that's why it's called gut instinct. So you know what to do. And the mind is the thing that takes control because of our upbringing, because of ego, et cetera. so if you can get control of your mind you can really do anything and that means changing your attitude your mood everything you're giving me goosebumps because when i have anxiety i get like stomach aches and it's funny because it's all connected but also we all have a gut we all have a gut instinct and it's about just believing it because a lot you'll lie to yourself and once you can just believe it it's like happiness like we all have it yeah it's not really

like something you have to chase like it's there but you have to find it so you always say you know happiness comes from within but no one takes it you know serious yeah well luann you are so wise you've you're such an icon on reality tv and you walked so i could run and the book about all of this stuff yeah so what what is going on work-wise that people can follow and um i know i got a shipment of Sonage. Oh, did you like it? Well, it's so beautiful. It comes in like this beautiful gift.

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How do you find the bandwidth to have all these projects? Oh, my God. Yeah. And I'm working on a book, which, you know, as we talked about so many things, I, you know, I want to share, you know, with people who think that they know me from. from reality television, but they, that's just the surface. And so I really want to talk about, you know, my journey and how I got here. And it's through, you know, perseverance and through being able to start over again from nothing. And I think, you know, I think a lot of people

are going to be in that position or in that position. I think that I've been in that position, you know, going from rock bottom to the cabaret stage. And, And that, you know, has been really my whole life in terms of experience. So I'm really into, you know, I'm into the book and it's exciting. And, you know, and I got Biva La Diva coming out with Desmond on August 20th, which is my new dance song. I cannot wait. It's just, just when you think people, like, know what Luann's going to do next, she'll surprise you. And I am excited because in the beginning of this podcast, you said the hardest thing is when people think they know you.

And I do think it is hard to put you in a box. But now with this book, I think I'm really excited to learn more in depth of what you really want to tell about yourself to the world. Yeah, I mean, like I said, they see you for two minutes on television, literally, and think that's who you are. So, you know, I think that people, you know, want to know how I went from Connect. etiquette to, you know, moving to Europe becoming a countess and, you know, the divorces and the, you know, the scandals and the, you know, and why, you know, I've done a lot of work on myself and it's like I figured out, gosh, why I did that. Oh my God, now I realize why I did some of the things that I did. And it all, it's this thread that goes through my life and

starts with my father. So I'm going to talk about my past with my father. So I think you'll love it. I commend you for also going deep to it was probably an emotional thing to write. So I just can't wait. Everyone follow Luan at Countess Luan on Instagram. Um, anywhere else where people can follow or watch you or any of that. Well, obviously, Real Housewives of New York. Well, I have, you know, my website, countess Luan.com. And there I have the Sonage and, um, and also, you know, future cabaret days in 2021. They're coming up. Oh, I cannot. wait to just be drinking a dirty martini and watching you sing one of these days right i can't either lou and i'm excited to see the next episode of real housewives of new york it's been

amazing can't wait for the reunion and thanks for taking time out of your day with your family um out in the hamptons to chat with me all right well hannah it was really fun and i hope to see you soon i do too summer house congrats on that Thank you. I'm going to get you in the show one of these days. I'm getting you to the house to flirt with Carl. Molly knows what I mean. He's 6.5. You'll like him. How old is he? 35. 35. Oh, too young.

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