Berner Phone - Luke Gulbranson: Will He Give Me Sex & Maple Syrup?
Episode Date: May 20, 2020Luke goes to hell and has to explain why he hasn’t sent her maple syrup, the trials and tribulations of being really good looking, what he smells like, if he’s sick of seeing boobs, if he fell out... of love with modeling, his cunnilingus advice, and what he hates most about Hannah. Join my patreon for more piping hot tea. ThriveMarket.com/BERN --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Welcome to Burning in Hell.
So this might be one of the hottest episodes we've ever had in Burning in Hell.
We are here today with Luke Goldbronson.
He's been begging me to go on the pot.
He's all like, oh, Hannah, when are you going to let me go on the pot?
Oh, yeah, coyotes.
Oh, yeah.
I said, Luke, it's time to bring you to hell.
And it's not going to be an easy episode, I'll tell you that.
Luke, welcome.
Well, first off, thanks.
I didn't know I was taking the trip to Ireland, but it was a good try on your accent there.
That's all right.
Anything to say for yourself before you get into the heat of things.
Do you have anything to get yourself?
Not really, no.
I have nothing to say for myself.
Good.
I'm tired.
So why don't we start with the question everyone wants to know?
you went all live you said Hannah I'm going to send you some maple syrup where is my maple syrup
uh it's in the fridge here I've got a few more I got to make but it's in my fridge so you're
going to send it you know what you know what's messed up I keep thinking of myself I'm like why is it
because I keep getting all these DMs of people being like did you send Hannah the syrup I'm like
when the fuck did I say I was going to send Hannah the syrup but apparently I said that so uh I'll
send you some but honestly I don't remember saying that if you want this to work out you have to
say things with action that matches it because you're a sweet talker but if your actions don't
align with that then girls are not going to trust you i maybe it's all the concussions i don't
remember saying it that's all i can send you some for sure i've got i mean listen i've been so busy
i have i've got bags of frozen maple water after boil i haven't been able to make that much yet but
i tried it the other morning it was really good so i'll send you some i'll have to get the fdae to
approve it but i'll send you some okay i don't like your tone already um
Second question. Why the fuck are you growing a beard and dreads right now?
I'm not growing dreads. I'm growing a beard because basically my whole life for the past
15 years, I'm told how I need to look and what I need to do in the modeling world. Not so much
acting unless I'm playing a character, but in modeling, I usually have to be clean cut and have
short hair. And my personality and me as a person is beard and long hair. I'm just being myself.
It's nice. I mean, I have a theory that,
If you have a beautiful jaw line, which you do, you don't want to cover it with a beard.
But if you don't have a good jaw line, you could become a beard guy and girls will like that.
But I actually, Luke, I get it.
It's almost like, you know, I was a tennis player, how I was forced to work out so much that I don't like being told to work out nowadays.
So it's like, you hate when I try to sexualize you.
If I'm like, Luke, take your shirt off or Luke, save your beard.
You're like, no.
And I'm like, why do you have to yell?
But it's like modeling PTSD, right?
Wait, hold on. Hold on. You better not say that I yelled or yelled at you because...
Sorry, he doesn't yell.
I don't yell at you, but let's not go there.
The reason I think Luke and I have such incredible tension is because I want to objectify Luke and he won't let me.
And I want him to objectify me and he refuses to do it.
So we're just fighting each other.
He cares about me and I don't want him to.
And then I don't want to care about him.
but I do. Anyway.
By the way, my allergies are horrible, so bear with me here.
Again, a lot of excuses.
We've got so many great questions.
Someone wants to know, what cologne do you wear?
Do you smell like bonfire maple syrup and pheromones?
Because that's what they think they smell like.
That's a great case.
That's actually awesome.
Wow.
You should make a candle that smells like maple syrup.
People will love that.
You know what?
That's a good idea.
and I think I will.
You know, I, for quite a few years now, I've made my own cologne.
I used to buy clone when I did.
I used to, I was like, I used to wear Aco Diji Armani and like, I don't know, whatever.
But I started making a clone years ago or a few years ago.
And I wear a mixture of a pine scent, a few other things.
I'm not going to give it away because I'm actually going to make a clone for my brand.
Nice.
I'm going to use what I make.
So, yeah.
So what they just told me is another idea.
maybe I'll have to do like a maple syrup mixture thing for a fragrance.
Do you like how I smell?
Yeah, you smell great, Hannah.
You smell like, well, it depends if we're playing tennis and I'm kicking your ass.
You usually, you know.
Never happened.
You kidding me?
Yeah, yeah, I did.
But you don't understand how much tennis we played this summer.
Like we would play every morning and occasionally they'd show it, but we'd like go into a scene where people were fighting.
And I'd be like, guys, I just played three sets of tennis.
I'm exhausted.
I don't give a fuck about your relationship.
I'm over this.
Well, no, but the worst part was I wanted to keep playing and you would go, no, no, we have to go film.
I'm going to keep playing.
Because I'm a professional.
I'm a professional.
You have become kind of this sex symbol on Summer House.
When did you first realize you were good looking?
Well, that's actually really funny.
These questions are great because these are questions I don't like answering because I don't like, I don't think.
like that. When I see myself, I see me. I don't see someone who's good looking. I don't see
anything like that. I just see myself. If I'm look in the mirror, it's just me. And I don't
necessarily think I'm good looking or better looking than the next person. I think we're all just
who we are. And, you know, my mom and dad made me. I didn't do anything to earn anything or be
a certain way. I mean, it is what it is. I mean, I could be good looking, but, you know, I could
suck as a human being and be a shitty person. Or I could be maybe not that good looking and be in a
it like looks don't matter and i don't really give a shit so i mean i get it kind of remind me of
this new kitten i adopted like she's so fucking good looking but she doesn't know that she's
good looking she's just a kitten but everyone gives her all the attention because she's the
cutest one and i'm like oh my god that's luke if he was a kitten oh that's so funny no
that's actually it makes it makes me think you think of but that's funny that you would think
that's creative i do think that there are a lot of like obviously positives being a good looking
guy but there also are some negatives where I think like people have preconceived notions of you
like they think you're a dick because you have ab um what kind of preconceived stuff do you think
yeah no it's it's really interesting um I'm really glad you bring that up because you know people
oh my god okay I actually had someone DM me the other day and they said uh is there a girl
yeah it was a girl your girl's DMing you did you respond to everybody Hannah I try at least
I'm up till 2.30 in the morning because I respond to everybody.
Oh, she had listened to a podcast that I did, and I said that life was tough growing up.
I didn't have an easy life.
And we all have our story.
And, you know, I don't expect sympathy from anybody.
I was just trying to put it out there what I went through a little bit.
A lot more to it.
But she goes, you know, you're white, you're good looking.
Your life wasn't that bad.
And I was like, wow, you are so, like, naive or ignorant for that statement.
Because, yeah, like, you don't exactly know what I went through or who.
who I am. And just because I look a certain way, you know, do you know how many times I haven't
booked a job or something? Because they go, oh, he's too good looking for the part or he's too
this or too. I'm like, are you fucking kidding? Or how about like, I don't fit like, no, but I'm just
saying there's people. Or girls are probably intimidated to even talk to you at a bar because
you look so hot. No, that's fucked up. I mean, that's, I mean, guys are intimidated talking to me
all the time. Look at me. I know what it's like, Luke. I know. Why are you laughing? What
No, just because I think that, I just think that looks don't really matter.
And I think that they definitely, they can help, I guess, in certain things.
But I don't think of it like that.
But they also can work against you.
And like people have preconceived notions or ideas or thoughts because, you know, you look a certain way.
And it shouldn't be that way for anybody regardless of anything.
You are an extreme.
Like I think any extreme you get treated a type of way where like you are stereotypically what society thinks is good looking.
so I think that you will get treated a type of way because of it
and it's like caused you to think certain ways
or feel type of ways.
Like I do think you get away with saying more random shit
and people will just like smile and laugh because you're hot.
Well, that's fucked up.
That shouldn't be that way.
I don't think, but I don't think I say a lot of shit
that would make people think that either.
That's why people, no, I don't mean like mean shit,
but I'm saying like ugly people have great personalities
because to get people to like them
So you're saying I don't have a good personality.
I'm not saying bad.
personality. I'm saying that you haven't had. You're burning in hell, Hannah. This is backfiring.
No, I'm just saying that you're not as funny as me, but everyone knows that. Okay, but I do want to say,
before you went on Summer House, did you have any preconceived notions of anyone on the cast from what
you've seen? Because you never watched reality TV, but you were forced to watch this show and
figure out, what did you think of some of the people on the show? Yeah, I mean,
You know, you base opinions off of what you see.
You don't know the people.
And I feel like everybody should have a fair shake, right?
So, you know, immediately I was like, Jordan's going to drive me crazy if this dude's around me.
You know, like I had and I thought in my head based off of the show.
But I went into it being like, well, I need to give the guy a fair shake and meet him.
And then when I met him, I was like, I have nothing bad to say about him.
He's been nothing but polite, nice, respectful.
He hasn't like, like, he's been cool to me.
I think Jordan's a good dude.
I got nothing against him.
And I remember, yeah.
Well, like, I mean, like, I don't know, whatever.
Maybe he just didn't do anything wrong to me.
And then, and then I immediately thought that I felt like, I remember I actually told my
sister, I felt like I was going to connect with you.
And I told her that.
And I said, I said, I feel like I'm going to, I was like, I'm going to connect with her.
I didn't know you at the time.
I just said her.
But I feel like I'd get on with her the best.
And then sure shit, as soon as I got there.
I swear to God, I immediately connected with you.
And I was like, yeah, I was, I don't know, I'm not, like, psychic or something.
But I just, I think the vibe that you had was, I was like, it was more relatable to me.
And I felt like I would have that way.
I don't know.
And then I didn't really, I didn't base any, I didn't really think too much about everybody else.
I didn't get it.
I wasn't like, oh, they're a bad person or there, this and that.
Because nobody, I didn't really feel that way about it anybody.
I was just kind of going into it, being like, cool, let's just, you know, see how it goes, see how everybody is.
is I had a preconceived notion. That's the word that we're working on today, preconceived
notion, that like, you came in, you were cute, but I was like, yeah, they're testing me
with another hot, tall guy. They saw something on a list that they thought I'd like, and they're
trying to get me to break up with Armand, and it's not going to work on me. And then I thought
you were just honestly a stupid hockey player. I didn't assume that you would, like, be so creative
and that you were such a good listener
and you had such a good sense of humor.
Not as funny as me, but you were good at laughing at my jokes.
And then you were like athletic,
and there were all these sides to you that I didn't expect.
And that's where I think it was so natural
that you saw us like slowly start to gain trust in each other.
And people didn't even know we were hanging out so much during the week
where every weekend we'd have like a whole new kind of understanding of each other.
People like to shit on us on Twitter
because they say that I'm like a five.
and you're a 10, you've been with probably how many women in your life?
Like, what do you mean, Ben with? Like, had a drink with?
How many women have you had a drink with in your life?
No idea.
Fuck, I don't know. Ten?
Thousands.
But I'm saying, like, you said something on the show that was really sweet,
where you were like, I've dated a lot of girls, so I know what a connection is.
How would you explain, like, what a connection is?
Because I feel like a lot of girls and guys are searching for that.
Well, how would you explain it?
I'm an old fart, Hannah.
I remember that.
And I think what happens is when you go through,
you get put through the ringer when you're young with dating people.
And, you know, if you don't just settle down,
I feel like with, like, a high school sweetheart or someone right away,
that usually you're going to date and go through experiences.
You're going to have heartbreak.
You're going to fucking need a seat therapist at some point.
You're going to have all types of shit happen to you.
But, you know, it helps.
you grow and then what you just you look at things and you find things in in people that you probably
um i don't know things that matter things that like like a real connection like someone that makes you
happy and someone you enjoy spending your time with yeah um you know and and you learn also you learn
about yourself too and being like well shit maybe i wasn't a good person and i need to change things
about myself whatever so i think i don't know you're really right i think that first love is that thing
that you're like oh my god's happening this is what i watched in movies and you you're so in such
like a fantasy world and you if you marry that person it sometimes can work but nothing's quite like
your first love because you've no clue who you are what you're doing and then as you get older you know
exactly who you well you're learning forever who you are but you know more you're you know more you're
looking for so you get way more picky. And you're 37. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I'm 36, Hannah.
I've been telling everyone you're 37. That's so fucked up. You're 36, but like I even at one point in the
show, I was like trying to hook up with you because I wanted, I'm a fuck girl and I wanted to
back to my friends that I fucked you. And at one point, I was like, I was like, don't you want to
see my boob? And then I'm like, he doesn't give a fuck. He's seen so many boobs in his life.
He's not even phased by my boob.
He's like, Hannah, tell me about your dreams and your insecurities.
And I'm like, suck on my titty.
That's actually really funny and probably true.
Yeah, I feel like when you, that's funny.
Yeah, like, I don't know.
I feel like when you're older, you've kind of been there and done it.
And you just, like, it is an interesting way of saying that, but that's, that's true.
I feel, yeah.
How do you have self-control?
When you were drunk and I was like, you know, doing my thing, trying to get you to like want to kiss me in bed and stuff, how did you, like, how did you reject me?
I didn't always have self-control, Hannah. Let's be honest. But sometimes when you're, when you're old fart, like I said, like me, you just know what you want. And sometimes that's just to go to fucking bed. I don't care if I'm drunk. Or sometimes I'll drink too much and be like, yeah, I need. Have you ever heard of a quickie?
yeah Hannah I've I've heard of I've heard of a quickie but I've also heard of I haven't slept in two nights because I've been drunk and I just want to go to bed yeah but the truth is don't don't play me the truth is you weren't tired you knew that if you had sex with me it could put you in dangerous waters but if you're talking about that yeah if you want to go down that road I mean we've talked about that numerous times on on like that whole situation was clearly um it would I mean I mean
I mean, I didn't need any more heat than what I was getting.
Yeah.
I mean, I thought your podcast was tough.
Try, try living in somewhere else.
I didn't deal with what I was doing there.
Do you think that me and you will ever have sexual intercourse?
I don't know.
I don't put expectations on anything, Hannah.
Do you want to have sex with me?
Yeah, every day.
I fucking hate you sometimes.
You guys don't even know the level of games we're playing.
Think between the lines.
What are your biggest turn-ons in a girl?
I think someone that's outgoing, like I said, like you gave me shit right away.
I like someone that'll come at me, but not like in an aggressive, like, mean way, but,
but, you know, someone that'll, like, flirt with me in the sense of joke around with me and
have fun, because that's my personality.
I like to joke around and have fun.
You clearly know that.
So that's important to me.
And someone that's driven, I don't like lazy people that just sit around and do nothing
and are, like, want to just, like, watch fucking the Kardashians and troll their hair and
be like like fuck that shit man i can't do with that you're not the woman for me if you want to do
that i can tell you that fuck i don't like i don't like a lot of anyway i'm not going to get into what
i don't like motivated and and and fun and funny and outgoing and want to do fun shit and not just sit
around and do you think you would have liked me if i didn't have a fat ass absolutely not
girls that's what i've been trying to tell everyone it's not a fat ass don't worry for a second
if you if you're a little depressed sometimes you gain a little bit of weight you feel anxious
you feel like you talk too much he doesn't go of a fuck shake that ass be confident yeah yeah i'm
more i'm i'm more of uh curbs i like curvature i'm physically i don't like like like super super skinny
as a model you're probably surrounded by like the skinniest people in the world yeah not everybody but
would you would you have to reject like skinny models all the time no it's not no i didn't have
people throwing themselves at me or anything um but no i physically i can't do it i have friends
that are super attracted to women that are like like like this like this skinny and it's just
not for me i can't uh i can't do it i need you want someone to eat beef jerky and put maybe
syrup on like a pile of pancakes in Minnesota yeah no but like I it's just not my thing I
I just don't like super super skinny you've been accused of a lot of things this season do you
consider yourself a player um when I was younger probably yeah but I wasn't necessarily being a
player I don't think as opposed to just immature I don't know it's maybe being selfish in the
sense that I wasn't ready to settle when I was young and I'm glad I didn't because I wouldn't I
to have grown and learn the things I know now.
Like, I don't want to hurt people, hence why our summer was a lot of the way it was.
I've hurt people before, and I don't want to do that.
It's not fun.
I mean, I do care, and I have feelings and emotions, and I want to hurt anybody.
And you've experienced that once you have sex, it becomes more intense.
Well, I don't believe everything that comes out of someone else's mouth.
That's for sure.
I think that the only person that can control anything is yourself.
So the decisions I make, I'm going to have to deal with repercussions of it.
So I have to make sure that whatever happens is, like, if I can control it, I'm going to control it.
I don't think I'm a player.
But if I'm single, you're down right, I'm going to date around and have fun.
Fuck, yeah.
Like, if I'm dating someone, absolutely not.
I won't do that.
But if I'm single, I'm going to be like every other man or woman out there that single and date and have fun and live my life.
Like, who wouldn't do that?
What were you like in high school?
Like, were you cool?
Like, were you sporty?
Tell me what were you?
Are you a fucking nerd with your thick-ass glasses?
No, no, I was an athlete.
I mean, I had my letterman jacket, and I played three sports.
I pretty much was friends with people from all different groups of, you know,
I was friends with some emo kids, friends with athletes, friends with some nerdy kids.
It didn't matter, like, people are just people.
I hung up with a class underneath my class a lot because I just got on with them better.
There was, like, it was just.
a fun class. I like my class, but my best friend was in that class. And a lot of the guys
on the hockey team were a year younger than me. And then when I was younger, I hung out with the
older kids. And when you were younger, you wanted to be a professional hockey player? This is how
I interview you. I just tell you the answer, because I know everything. Yeah, no, it's like, yeah.
And then, but then in high school, I got like homecoming king and all that shit. So that's who I was.
Oh, when did you lose your identity? Is my mom going to listen to this?
No.
Oh, now you're Mr. Innocent.
I think he's 15 or 15 or 16.
Okay, someone wanted to say, what?
Oh, my God.
The questions are so funny we got.
They said, what is it like for a dude to lose his virginity?
Oh, my God.
Wow.
That is, um, once you did it, were you like, I have to do this all the time.
No, I actually got really emotional when I started to cry and shut up.
I went to have a cigarette.
And I had a cigarette and I got really depressed.
Am I a horrible person for saying I didn't care and my life didn't change and it was nothing?
I was just like, whatever.
Like, I wasn't like.
Who is she?
Who is she?
Just a girl from another high school.
Was she older?
Same old.
Did you take her virginity too?
Fuck, no.
How many girls have you taken to virginity?
None.
That's not true.
No, I swear.
I haven't. I once dated a girl who was a virgin. And I was like, and then she was like,
okay, let's like do this. And I was like, oh, man. She, like, and I'm not really into, I'm like,
I'm like, I'm not at the point where like, I'm like, I knew I liked her, but I was like,
I was like, oh, man, I can't take this because she's like, I'm not in love with this girl.
And she's like, saving this her whole life or something special. And like, she's like so. And I was
like, if I do this, it's just, I think what people don't realize about you is you actually do
overthink things.
Well, I ended up breaking up with her because I felt bad.
I couldn't do it.
But it was the right move.
I wasn't going to take her Virginia.
I wasn't like, I knew it meant a lot to her and I wasn't thinking of that guy.
How do you think having two sisters has affected your relationships with women?
Well, sometimes they give me advice and I think it fucks it up.
But usually 95% of the time it's really good advice.
I'm glad I have older sisters because they've taught me, you know, they're women.
they know how women are and i've learned a lot from them um and it's definitely helped to them all the time
on the phone well when i have questions about women do you think that you are going to have
be married and have kids one day i hope so i mean that's what i like to have because you're getting
kind of old yeah i thought about that too but i'm not that i'm not i don't no rush take it day by day
no expectations i want kids i want to get married but i also uh i mean i have a pretty good life and
I'm busy doing everything I'm doing.
And eventually, yeah, we'll see what happens.
I don't know what tomorrow's going to bring.
I literally, I'm not that person.
I just live day to day.
I never really put expectations on anything.
Thank you.
Everyone's been talking about the Jojo video that was released called In the Dark.
You can YouTube it.
We want to know, did you have sex with Jojo?
I did not have sex with Jojo.
That's funny.
I don't think I'm her type of guy.
I don't know. I just don't think it was.
But was it fun to work with her?
I mean, yeah, it was fine. It was fucking forever ago.
It was fine. I mean, she was super chill. She was nice.
It was a long day of work. And it was fine.
How many music videos have you been in?
Just that one. I mean, I wouldn't really do music videos. It's not like my thing.
When was the first time someone said, Luke, you should go into modeling?
Ah, jeez. I don't remember probably.
When I was in, like, maybe ninth grade.
Oh, wow.
And did you think you would want to do it?
I don't know.
I'm so far away from every city and thing in the world up here that I didn't.
It wasn't on my radar.
I was more interested in playing hockey and going to school.
Yeah.
You infamously got discovered by Josh Hartnett's manager and then go to New York City
and you were just in like a big apartment with like a ton of hot dudes.
That's what they do with models.
Yeah, we lived in a model apartment.
it was crazy it was fucking i would know i mean it was fine at the time but looking back at it i'm like
i don't know how i was okay with no but you were chasing your dream you were hustling and then
fast forward you had such a successful modeling career and i think i i loved knowing that you had had
like so many different interests because i felt like i always had my prior career in tennis where it
made me who i was but you said you kind of fell out of love with modeling when did that happen well
you know what it is it's not that i fell out of love with
modeling it's a simple it's it's it's i i still do it like i'm the reality is you're taking
pictures you're trying on clothes you're doing your thing and whatever but i i didn't follow like
the work itself doesn't do anything for me yeah it doesn't fulfill me and i go to work i get a paycheck
it's kind of like numbing you know what i'm saying in the sense that you but but what i what i do
enjoy about it is the people that you work with and that's that's the part that i do enjoy um
the work itself there's no like for me i'm like okay cool like i'm modeling but but working with
awesome people and creating friendships with the art director and the photographers and your makeup
hair makeup in the styles like that part is awesome and traveling and like that is so fucking cool
and i'm so thankful for it how often do you try to have sex with the model you're with you know
i've had some fun shoots but usually everything's pretty pretty well luke stop trying to make me jealous
everything's pretty professional yeah you never mixed business and pleasure
sure you never do that i mean i have well now i'm upset and now you've ruined the mood are you crying
no are you on your phone during this you're supposed to be i'm answering questions i'm looking at
the question okay now we're going to get a little deeper because i've been really fucking easy on you
in the beginning what's your biggest physical insecurity oh wow probably my probably my
quarantine gut my quarantine belly that i have no i'm just kidding no i have an eye
I have a lazy eye.
I have my right eye.
I'm almost blind in my right eye.
And if my eye will go like inward, it'll go like crooked.
If I don't wear contacts, it just like sits lower.
Yeah, I was, I had a fucking, I still have it.
I have a, I can't see out of my right eye for shit.
And I think it's the muscles or whatever that are in your eye are weak.
So my eyelid kind of sits down though.
If I don't have my contacts, it's fucking weird.
Maybe that's why you're so bad at tennis.
I, you can't.
I was smoking Wilson twos by you all the,
something. Anyway, but no, but, but no, I think I think that's definitely it. And then I'm sure one day
if and when I lose my hair, that'll definitely be it because I'm going to, I like having
hair, but otherwise, yeah, that's, that's, well, we'll see. I'm not good to my, my hair. I wear a hat
every day, but, but that's definitely it. My, my eye is fucked up, but you don't notice it unless
I'm really tired of my contacts. What's your biggest emotional insecurity or like something
about your personality. I'm definitely insecure about music and singing. That's why I never
do it, even though you've said otherwise. I know I can actually carry a tune if I really want
and I'm not fucked up. You know, like I've sang for friends and they're like, dude, why don't
you ever perform? And I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, because I just, I'm afraid to do it. And then,
of course, Bravo, they helped that insecurity a lot by airing me when I'm so fucked up. I can
hardly play the damn guitar. I know. I like to make fun of you. I like to make fun of
you all the time and I didn't realize it was such a big insecurity because I thought it was just
hilarious because you're not a singer you're not a professional singer I think you're great at guitar
and I I've asked Luke to get singing lessons with my mom who sings to like because you haven't had like
formal training and I do think you have some potential and then you're like posting videos trying
to prove to people that you're good at singing well I posted those prior to prior to the show
Hannah and then I was making fun of him on giggly squad saying to put the good
guitar away and then we got mad at me. Well, I was like, yeah, Hannah, you tell me that you
believe in my music and then you throw me under the bus and say, yeah, you just suck. And I was like,
okay, which way are we going here, Anna? Yeah, because right now you do suck. I believe in you
in the future if you put in the work and you learn how to sing. Bob Dylan didn't have a great
voice. It's real good music. There's a lot of people that don't have, don't have good voices.
I could sing down low and just be fine with it and just write music and not care of just playing bars
and whatever so we got into it a little right before the reunion um because we were dealing with
i think external stuff words were being said on shit and whatever and i think
luke and i had a moment where we just like needed a break from each other and um is there anything
from the reunion that you regret because we got into it between you and i'll say mine part two
what I regret. I mean, you know, lesson learned is you should always communicate with people.
And, you know, for me, we didn't communicate. I had communicated to you about some things
and via text. Anyway, it was, yeah. So it just led to us not, like, I was, I don't even know.
We didn't talk the two weeks before the reunion. And I also have a side of me that like,
if I feel like someone gets mad at me, I want you to call.
call me and talk to me about it instead of just like sending an angry text because then I feel
like you just you don't trust me and you're just like fuck you and I didn't respond how you thought
I would respond. I think you thought I'd respond how I normally respond which is like let's talk
this through it's a misunderstanding but instead I say go fuck yourself yeah but but you also
understand that though did it turn you on no I didn't but but I will put I'm going to put
you on the spot now and tell you that um I did not I did talk to you about it
The reason I text you is because it was a third time that I was actually talking about it.
That's why I text you.
I didn't like your angry text.
Oh, my God.
I don't like text fighting.
I think text fighting is stupid.
And I also, yeah, I'm a woman of many words, and I don't like to fucking text stuff.
I like, if you care about me and you love me, then you'll talk it through with me.
I did talk to you.
I did care two times in a row.
Yeah, but we're fighting because.
you thought that I was saying a lot he thought I was talking shit about him when
realistically it was a combination it wasn't just that though I feel like I didn't mean to cut you
off go ahead no you could think I thought it was um had more do with the show in us and yeah and that
and that's what I was trying to um we started to like refite about things we fought about over the
show with the pressure of external stuff and we didn't
talk before the reunion because part of me was like I'm not fucking apologizing and then reunion came
and we got kind of heated and people were very confused people were like I wasn't heated I wasn't
heated you asked me if I wanted to fight I wasn't heated I asked if you want to fight because I felt like
you were you were like putting your focus onto me when I felt like I was someone who's had your backs
since day one and there were so many other people that you could call out for like legit wrong
things. And I, you know, for me, I explained to you that I feel like it had to do with,
I thought I was very clear to you about where I stood and how things were. And then
watching back on the show with you talking to your friends, it came across is a lot different
than that. And that was upsetting to me because then I had the heat from your friends coming
on me. And I was like, well, Hannah, why can't, like, you understand what I'm saying? And
that was hard. So it was like, who am I talking with to you? I'm like, is Hannah, like,
because I'm telling her all these things, but yet what she's saying to her friends and
what's being communicated wasn't what we were discussing and where we left off and that was very
frustrated for me and i think to this day in real life talked about it yeah but i want i want people
list the burning the low devils to know that no real life you would never see what your your
significant other is talking to their friends about and like i am going to be slightly different with
you than when i'm like opening up about the relationship and asking for advice to my friends but
to this day i stand by the fact that like i understood where you're
coming from, but at the time, I was using them to vent that I was felt blueballed. And I had dealt
with a previous relationship with a guy who used sex as control, where he would like, he would not
want to have sex with me because he had his own issues with sex. And I started to just feel
unwanted. So that's why I think, like, with you, I was like, no, I get it. I get the logic. But then
my own past trauma was making me when I was with my friends being like I I feel blue-bald
and I feel unwanted and I want to fuck I said that to Carl that one time yeah and and all I can do is
is tell you that from me is I always like during the weekend when we were filming I always told
you my truth and regardless of whatever happened my thing is when you're friends is whatever
if you were are you like are you looking at a lollipop right now?
Where'd the fuck did you get that lollipop?
I got a little, I got a whole bag of tootsie rolls in that thing.
Okay, anyway.
They're my nieces when she's out here.
If you did not want to, to hurt me and stuff,
did you feel like you, by you like calling me so much and wanting to hang out,
emotions could get involved and people could get hurt?
100%.
But I also knew that our connection, like, I, like,
I loved spending my time with you and I loved the relationship that we had in the sense that
like you were like a best friend and I loved that and I loved I wouldn't not want to have that
in my life either.
That's another reason why it was so tricky because I wouldn't want to sleep with you and then
have things get even more complicated and be like, well, now that sucks because I really
enjoy Hannah as a human being and love having her in my life and now that we just fuck that up.
Did you feel very confused as to like, do I want this girl to be my best friend or like
My girlfriend?
100%.
And also, yeah, and it was also confusing because I was clearly still in love with my ex-girlfriend, you know, and that played a huge role in a lot of things.
But, but, you know, I also knew that I enjoy you as a person and a ton.
And I think that, and I've said this to you before, that regardless of whatever, the rest of our lives, I'm sure will be a part of each other's lives no matter what happens, you know.
And I think that that's important.
You know, you find few people in your life that you, that you have that with.
I do agree with you.
I think there's something special about you.
And we have overcome a lot together, whether it's like a national TV show, drama with friends.
We've overcome a lot and we're still very cool.
And I would still have sex with you.
Okay.
That's awesome.
Is your wrist sore, by the way, though?
It's so funny watching you hold that fucking microphone while you're talking to me.
It's so big.
Yeah, I know how to handle a big microphone.
So this is a really good question.
Right before we play our final game, you're doing great, is fuck Mary Kill.
I never do this.
People ask me to do this and I never do it.
You have to do it.
I don't have to.
You have to do it for me.
Page, Lindsay, Danielle.
Oh, man. I can't believe you're making me. I can't. I'd fuck them all. I'm a fuck boy. Remember?
Luke! You have to do it.
Also, can you not be all sloppy with that? It's an audio recording and you're sucking on a lollipop.
This is what good-looking people get away with.
I'm living in the moment, Hannah. This is real.
Okay, we'll answer the question.
well i'd probably that's i fucking hate this fucking game so stupid okay we don't have to do it but
then i'm going to ask you a worse question all right uh you're ridiculous you're trying to
intimidate me um uh all right okay fuck marry kill me no i'll just do it i'll answer it no i'm
answer it i would marry
daniel
fuck lindsay and kill page
how do you
oh god i can't hear her my answer
listen i would never
the only reason i said i'd kill page is because she was so mean to me last summer
other than that i would never do that okay fuck marry kill
you can't do ask me again this the last one no we just did it i don't do i don't
I don't have two rounds of the shit.
It's a really easy.
No.
Okay.
Fuck more kill.
Me, me or me.
Oh, that's fucked up.
Okay.
Okay, if you were to go to a psychic like you had on the show, but you could ask them anything, what would you want to know about your future?
Wow, that is, I mean, I'd want to know a lot of things.
Is it weird that I want to, no, I wouldn't want that.
I wouldn't want that.
These are questions that you have to think about.
Yeah, I challenge you.
I challenge you every day to be a smarter man and it's not working.
Probably.
Oh, you're asking me questions that I have to think about.
Oh, no.
What am I going to do?
Yeah, probably if I, I don't know, just basic shit.
Like, if I'll be healthy the rest of my life, if I'll meet someone and have a family one day, like, I don't know,
is the world going to be safe in 20?
years for me to have kids i don't fucking know like shit like that i guess nothing too crazy nothing
out of the ordinary when was the last time you were depressed and be honest when huh be honest
yeah i am okay when is the last time you were sad oh that's easy probably when stop smacking on the
lollipop people are going to give me one star of reviews you keep telling me you're editing the
shit yeah i can't edit out every fucking sloppy little smack that you do
the people I can think
just bite it like a normal person
I can't
bite it like how I want to bite your dick right now
probably probably
I think during the quarantine
I've had a lot of time to
because I've been isolated by myself
and just working on my cabin
and it's brought back a lot of things
from my past relationship to me
and I think that
her us
me how things were
and like just where I'm at today compared to where I was and um you know part of me had thought
you know just thought like you know I wish that we had met at another time because it would
have worked out so that made me a bit sad I feel like yeah I feel like Luke and I have had a lot
talks about this and I do feel like you have this thing with yourself that you're like
I didn't know what I had when I had it yeah
Well, yes, but also, like, I was single for three years.
Yeah.
Go before I met her.
And I wasn't supposed to like her or even date her.
Like, it wasn't supposed to be like that.
And it ended up being that way.
And then over time, you're...
Are you supposed to date anyone?
Well, no, but what I'm getting at is I feel like, I just, now it's like, wow, like, I really, like, I just wish I would have done...
I'm not saying I'm all at fault in a lot of people.
in the relationship, but I just, I'm the type of person that I would take responsibility for the
things I did do wrong. And it really upsets me that, um, that I didn't do things right. But I also
wasn't aware and I didn't know because I wasn't ready. Um, and that bothers me. Like that actually
eats the way at me. But I also feel like your perspective is skewed in that give yourself more credit
that if she was the right one at that time, you would have known what you had. And I
I think that what it sounds like, because I was not there, was that it was some form of a toxic
relationship where toxic relationships are like high, low, high, low, high, low.
And the highs are so high and the lows are so low.
And it's like a drug.
So then when you lose it, you feel like you miss the highs and that excitement.
But when you were in it, you weren't happy.
And I feel like because you're so far away from it, you look back at it sometimes in rose-colored glasses.
And all I'm going to say it's one time is that I feel like the world and the universe puts you in situations over and over again until you learn and you'll do the same thing until you can learn.
And I'm just saying that I feel like you could be looking back at this situation in two years and be like, damn, I didn't know what I had with Hannah because I was not in the right mindset and I didn't take advantage of it.
I'm just saying, just putting that to the universe.
Yeah.
No, I mean, I agree with you.
I mean, I mean, I'm a 100% agreement with you on all the above, you know, but I also am the type of person that, I mean, well, I should say I'm, I think about, put it this way, I know where I'm at and I know if I'm ready or if I'm not.
And right now, like, I'm still healing and I'm living my life.
And I feel like that's what I need to do. And that's what I need to do.
I also realized people have to understand that I was not an easy, like, person to talk to
because I was also very emotionally unavailable.
I was still pretty hurt from my, like, relationship from, I'd say it was like a year
and a half before I met you.
Then I dated British Dave.
Then I dated Armand a little.
But those, I like wasn't putting myself out there for them.
I was not available for them.
That's why Armand, like after three months, I was like, this isn't, I don't care.
I wasn't caring about anyone or anything.
So then when you were like caring about me and calling me, I was like, what the fuck is this?
I'm not looking for this.
So that's why it was such an interesting combination of emotions from the two of us, because both of us were unavailable, but I wanted to have sex in an unavailable way where you were like, I want someone that I feel connected with, but I don't want the sex because the sex is more complicated when it comes to you.
I mean, yeah, I mean, that's a smart way of putting it.
I mean, one of us, one of us has to be the smart one and the funny one.
Oh, my focus has been building walls?
Yeah, basically.
Building emotional walls or physical walls?
Which one, Lucas?
That's another thing about me is I always have a, I have walls up.
It's hard to get through.
It's really hard to get through.
And also you're stubborn and sometimes, yeah, you're really fucking stubborn.
No, I'm not.
I used to be.
I'm not that stubborn.
Do you think I'm stubborn?
yeah you admit to it before we play our final game just enough about me what do you think about me
what is your favorite quality of mine and what is your least favorite quality of mine um favorite
quality is your personality you're fun you're funny spontaneous and um and i think that like
like that for me is i love that like i really think that's amazing what i don't like is that
you and i'll say because i've said it to you before you don't communicate when you're upset
true communicating with people is very important because how can someone how do you solve a problem
or can someone understand if something's wrong or they've done something wrong if you don't talk to
yeah the first time i was really upset with you was right before the reunion and i just was like
done i'm very like italian like sicilian we we cut people out of our lives real quick you know
I was like, he doesn't understand me.
I was like, he doesn't get it when I realized that, like,
you also had perspectives on things that I need to accept and talk through.
Well, yeah.
But, but, yeah, that's why you nailed it.
That was really good, Luke.
You kind of know me.
I know you a little bit.
It's a little bit.
Yeah, you don't know that you're in my vagina, though.
Okay, anyway.
Yeah, actually, I do.
Yeah, but your dick doesn't.
Yeah, but I've seen it.
Yeah, you wore your glasses. I was like, why do you have to wear glasses?
Because I don't want you to see my crooked eye.
I'm pretty sure in that moment, I wouldn't care. Oh, I also, quick tip.
One, do you have any tips for Kondolingis for going that long?
Not really. I don't know. I just get after it.
Okay, tip number two, as a model, do you have any advice for people taking good photos?
Like, is there anything that you see people mess up all the time, like average people
when they're taking a photo.
Hannah, in all honesty.
Have a perfect construction.
No, it's funny.
It's funny when people are like,
I need my good side of,
oh my God, like,
it didn't wear a got any.
I'm like, just take a fucking picture.
Like, I don't care.
Just take the picture.
Like, when for real,
a picture's a picture.
Like, just take the damn thing.
Smile, don't smile.
Just take it.
It's done.
Like, there's no advice.
Just take the picture.
What you see is what you get.
You guys heard it here first.
It's now time to play
The Seven Deadly Sins.
Cue the music.
Seven Deadly Sins.
What are you greedy about?
Ooh.
I know I'm going to think about something that's real.
I don't know, Hannah.
Probably my time.
I don't know.
That's good.
Yeah, you were like, you were like,
I got to go fix some walls.
So I'm only free at 2.30 Central.
Yeah.
No, my time, I think.
But it's just because I'm, I'm,
I'm busy because I have a busy life.
Can I say what I think you're greedy about?
Yeah.
I think you're greedy about...
No, you can't.
No, you can't.
No, I'm just kidding.
Go ahead.
I was like, I'm going to unleash the truth.
I think you're greedy about loving close friends.
Like, you will do anything for a close friend.
Oh, yeah.
You're greedy about, like, them and their time and, like, you'll defend them for anything
and you'll do anything for anyone.
Oh, real quick.
You used to listen to this podcast, then you stopped.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why did you stop?
My back is this 10-inch bolts a great backscratcher.
Don't deflect.
Let's not deflect.
Because I was listening to it, and then I was just like,
all right, Hannah just talking about shit, I just don't need to listen to.
It was like because I said British Dave had a big dick.
Was it because of that?
No, God, no, I don't care.
I just don't, I don't listen to, I do listen to watch a crap in sometimes
because it's just funny to listen.
But you did listen.
said i talked about some things that made you uncomfortable and you know what that's okay yeah i just
don't need to hear certain things that you say like i don't know like some i love that i can affect you
in that way though it turns me on um who are you envious of there isn't one person i mean there's
people that i don't i don't i'm kind of thankful for my life i don't i don't know if i'd want to
change anything because it would change who i am and i like who i am i love that for you what about
With singing, maybe Sturgle Simpson or...
No, I mean, well, no, I mean, they're amazing.
I love, I love their music.
And I don't want to have good vocals necessarily either.
I just want to be me and just go, like I swear to God.
Like, if, because you know what, Hannah, this is, this is how I look at it with music.
And this is just my thing.
I have a lot of stories.
I've been through a lot of shit in my life and I can write a lot of stories down and I can tell stories and play my guitar.
And a lot of musicians aren't necessarily great singers, but they're great storytellers.
And I think that sometimes I had a shitty life just so I could share stories with people that they can relate to and maybe inspire them or move them.
And I feel like the musicians I listen to the most, I don't listen to Ryan Bingham.
I love his voice, but I don't listen to Ryan Bingham and think he's just like the shit because he's got like he's got vocals like fucking Adele or something.
He's one of the best lyricists around.
The way he writes music is, he's so creative and there's so, when someone sings, if they're,
I always say this, you don't need to be a good singer because if you see someone live and they're
just performing and singing someone else's lyrics are singing, I'm not into that.
I don't care how good their voice is.
God gave them that, right?
But I want to see someone that when they sing, their emotions are into what they're, they're
feeling what they're singing, what they're saying.
And that's a singer-songwriter.
connection and that like when I listen to Ryan Bingham his life wasn't wasn't easy and
and I relate to it a lot and and I just I love his tunes man I love his music and you know
he's found himself to have a lot of success but and I love seeing that and it's so amazing
because he had a really really rough life like really you talk about your past a little bit on
the show but what do you think was like your rock bottom growing up you know it's tough it's tough
when it's tough when you're when the family life isn't isn't easy and you know in in in money's
not there in food and heating and you know my parents have a lot of love and they're very good
to to me but there's that you know that it was I don't I'm not going to get too much into detail
because I don't have to but uh yeah but but it but it was um it was tough you know my parents
didn't always get along and um you know me and my sisters as kids it just wasn't easy seeing
some things and dealing with things that we had to deal with
but the one thing my parents always did was they loved us it was just you know it was always tough
and it was never easy um and then uh you know but i got to experience a lot of interesting shit
put it that way growing up as a kid and um and then i also lost you know like my best friend
by suicide and that was really tough for me as well there's a lot of things that happened in life
i got picked on to as a kid a lot when i was younger and um there's a lot of shit and and you get picked
done when you when you're when you're when you're not fiscally there you know that's why i said my
shoes or something yeah yeah my parents did the best they could there were years that i would have
like some new shoes and stuff then there were years that would i would have new shoes but they
weren't like nikes or something you know um for school clothes or whatever but i don't my parents
hate when i talk about this shit because they feel bad but they don't have to i'm super thankful
they did a good job with them love them and uh you still talk to your parents every day and i love your
relationship that you have with your parents.
Yeah, and I'm at where I'm at because of them.
So it was an interesting life, and it's been an interesting life.
It was an interesting childhood.
But my escape, you know, for me, a lot of my escape was the reason I was good at hockey
as I said this before, is that I would just go to the rink.
I would get done with school and I'd have hockey practice, and then I would just go
to the rink after hockey and just play hockey for hours until like 9.
To like 9.30, they shut the lights up, and then I'd walk back home with my stick,
you know, and through the snow.
but it was my escape from from everything else that was going on in my life yeah um and and just being
on the rink just playing hockey it just even whether there's a ton of people there we had a big game
gone um it's also an equalizer it doesn't matter how much money you have or if your parents are mad or not
if you're good at hockey you're good at hockey and the only reason i got good is because i was
literally lived at the rink because it was where i'd go and what i'd do to escape from from everything
else that was going on in my life. And I didn't realize that at the time. But as you get older,
you look back on it and you're like, wow, you know. Why do you think hockey guys get such a bad
rep? I mean, not every hockey guy does. I can tell you right now, there's no other sport. I feel like
that is where people are as humble and have more of a team personality in the eye. What's that?
STDs. That's fucked up, Hannah. I feel like, I feel like hockey guys, listen, every.
athletes going to be what they are but i i do feel like hockey guys overall and really humble and good
good people um what are you what are you what are you gluttonous about so what do you like over
indulge in um food and good music motorcycle motorcycles you love motorcycles you also overindulge in
making fires at night and beers no i haven't drank i know i used to but i haven't drinking well but
I think I overindulge in really just I eat a ton like I'm a trash can I eat everything and then
you love eating together Luke would just text me and be like what do you want for dinner and I'd be
like sushi and he's like come over let's watch tennis and he would have tennis on his TV and I was
like I need to marry this man but I hate him okay um when was the last time you experienced extreme
wrath so anger like when was last time you got really pissed at something yesterday at what
that was building a frame and it's it's been i don't know how minnesota's land at 10,000 lakes
because it's a land of wind ever since the weather has been somewhat warm it's just windy every
fucking day and i was outside and i was trying to i had two two by fours on the ground and i was
trying to get the two ends it's you don't understand anyway and the two ends together and and
and the screw i was using three and a half inch screws torques that was your problem the torques
no but no it was like in the there was so much wind
and I couldn't. It was a two-person. I'd like to get, I would have been fine once it was
started. Like once their boards were together, it was zip, zip, zip, but just getting the
first screw in. And I was, I was so fucking angry. I was, I couldn't deal. And then I was like,
okay, I need to relax because I shouldn't get angry. But I was angry. And then I just threw my
chop saw and said, fuck it. And then I was like, damn it, I can't believe I just threw my chopsa.
When was the last time you were a sloth? So you like didn't do anything all day? Because
I know that you wake up like, no matter how hard you party in New York City, which was so
fucking annoying, you'd wake up at like 8 a.m. You'd go to the gym. You'd do work. You'd answer
emails. You'd fix your whole kitchen. When was the last time you just were like, fuck it. I'm not
doing shit today. I'm relaxing. When I first got back here in March from New York when I was sick
and I tried, I tried doing stuff and then I just got more sick. So I'm not I'm not the type of
person that likes to sit around. Unless I'm in a relationship,
and I will just sit on the couch and hang out with whoever I'm in relationship with
and watch a movie and chill. That's fine. I'll do that and enjoy that.
Well, that's also adding to like a relationship. It's like you're putting in work to enhance
that connection. Oh, yeah, no, no, no. But some relationships, remember we've had this
discussion that I was like, I was in a relationship and the girl I was dating would be like,
well, that's just what boyfriend is do. I'm like, no, actually, I don't have to do that. I'm choosing
to do that for you. Like, I do that because I do that.
like care even though it doesn't whatever okay um but but anyway yeah so no but i enjoy that and
it's just like but if i'm not in a relationship i'm i'm i'm go go grind grind all day every day
it's just who i am i like to get shit done and i love design so i'm that's why i'm you know i love
this shit final question when was the last time you lusted over someone um pretty much uh during this
podcast. Good. Good answer. See, you guys, I trained him pretty well. He can't be managed at all.
Luke, Luke, to wrap this up, I think you are so kind of wise and you've been through so many
things and you're so handsome. What advice would you give to people who are going through hell right
now on how to cope with their hell? You know, it's not for everybody, but it's what
what helped me most of my life and to this day does even though like sometimes I get so busy I
just lose focus and honestly I think it's faith I'm telling you right now that you don't have to
be a Christian if you don't want to and you don't whatever I don't push that on people but my faith
in God and my Christianity like being a Christian has got me through so many tough times in life
and and I think I think it's important to have that because when you don't
have people and you don't, you know, outside of your family and friends. You don't have
anybody. The one thing you do have is faith. And don't give up. You have to have hope because
when you go through the trials and tribulations, when you get through the smoke and the bullshit
and stuff and you get out to the other side of that, you come out a stronger, better person.
And I always think that God, I'm always like, what do you, hot wire? And then sometimes why are you
testing me like this now? Because I don't like it. It's not easy. I don't understand what your
process is. That's why I have this.
too it says it's in it's from you know the bible and it says what i'm doing now you do not understand
or what i'm doing you do not understand now but afterward you will understand and the reason i have that
is because you know when i was going through my past relationship um i thought i knew everything
i thought i knew what i was doing i thought you know and then i realized no i was maybe really selfish
there and I was you know I you just you start to see a lot of things and and then you're like
well God why you know why would why why is it not going you know my way why can't it be this way and
and you have to accept it and you have to grow from it but but you have to also with faith it you find
you find comfort in it and I feel like we all need that as human beings you need to have that
comfort and um because sometimes like I said you the one thing that will always be there is your
faith. And, you know, your family and friends aren't always going to be there. And you only have
yourself. And for me, I have myself and God. And that, that's really, I don't know, if I could give
advice, it would be to find something to believe in. And it'll help you. It really does. I mean,
it really does. Well, Luke, this has been fantastic. I've gone through a lot of different emotions
through this. Is that what you're crying? Yeah, just a little bit. Get me my feelings. You
no, I don't want to feel anything. I just want to be numb. I just want to be, um, are you okay
by you? No, I'm good. Okay. Stop fucking flirting with me. You're so annoying. Okay, you're doing a lot
of fun stuff right now. Where can people follow you? Where can people buy your stuff? Give me the
goods. Um, wow. Okay, so you can follow me at Hannah Berger. Just at Luke Galbronson, not
go Branson like Hannah said um yeah go Bronson on Instagram on I don't even I'm so bad at
Twitter I don't even know what my handle is I think it's go Bronson underscore you can you might know it you
know it you know it yeah it's like go Branskin underscore brobranskin whatever his name is um also where
can people get your jewelry and your yeah yeah I was getting to that Hannah come on never no um but
uh you can find my jewelry at Arco shop.com and that's R C-O shop
com and then on my Instagram for it is Ranger 3 underscores because Lord knows there's a bunch
of Ranger Coes but it's Ranger 3 underscores Co is my Instagram. Yeah so Arco R stands for Ranger
that's why the company is called Arco short for Ranger. Arco shop. He's made me some rings. Everything
is homemade. It's amazing. It's incredible. And I don't know. I feel very fortunate to have met you on the
show and I feel fortunate to have this podcast to be able to like show our perspective and our side
and our relationship unedited and um yeah I'm just grateful to have you in my life yeah and I love
you dearly you know that and um and I'm thankful to have you in my life as well um the one
you know the the one thing about the show for me um being a part of it is that and I always
answer this and you hear in podcast interviews is that I walked away with I feel like a great
group of friends but you know some relationships are clearly stronger than others and uh and i'm extremely
thankful for um have been able to be part of it and and and have you um and everybody uh in my life
and and i'm very thankful for that you know when you that's the one thing i i find to be very
interesting is when you don't grow up being when you were like you know who would you like to
if you could have someone else's life or whatever um the reason i i answered it was saying i'm
happy with my life is because you know one thing that i know i probably wouldn't be if my life
wasn't the way it was is i'm thankful for everything that i'm thankful for food i always said
food my belly and a roof over my head that's all i need if i'm if i'm doing that i'm okay
i'm okay and um because because you know that's really all i've i've ever needed so the fact
that i have a place at the lake and stuff now i've worked for it and stuff but i thank god every day
I go, I don't need these things.
Yeah, I think that's what connected us, because anyone who listened to the podcast
knows that, like, ever since going through hardships, like, I just want to wake up in the
morning, yeah, with food in my stomach, a roof over my head, and being happy.
And if I have that, and I know happiness is not this complex, crazy thing.
It's not something you have to find and get.
It's something that everyone has inside them.
And once you can find that, good things happen, I think both of me and you are pretty
minimalist with that.
I don't think it's about where you are.
It's who you're with.
how you feel about yourself in your own head, how you talk to yourself every day.
Yeah, I think that's important.
And I think we all fall off the wagon with that, including me, because it's important
to wake up with the right attitude.
If you have a good attitude, your day is going to go good.
Even if it's bad, if things go bad, you'll still have a good attitude about it.
But, you know, and I also think that, you know, with the happiness aspect of it,
when you step back from reality and kind of take everything in, one of the reasons
I like coming home is because I like nature, but, and that makes me happy.
It's not, you know, listen to someone when they're talking to you.
Don't just nod your head and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, like really take it in.
Like, get to know people.
Like, understand them.
You'll be a better person for it.
Like, look at the flowers and look at them, look at a tree and take it in, you know,
when you're with people, the time that you have with them, enjoy it because they're not
always going to be there.
And I think, but I think those are all things that are important because there's,
if you look at it, if you really take everything in and like, just think, like, wow,
like there's a tree right there like that tree's living like wow it was once this big you know
it's like it's just crazy seeing some shit it's been around longer than fucking half people here
or whatever it's just cool are you are you in quarantine so long that you're trying to fuck a tree
i mean that might be getting crushes on trees my maple trees are sexy they produce some
serious maple syrup for me you need them orgasm maple syrup it actually comes out of water but
with that said i'll keep you guys posted on if luke ever sends me maple syrup i feel like you
guys got to know Luke a lot more and Luke you survived hell I'm very proud of you and yeah thanks
Anna it was actually uh I mean it's it's warm outside here but I thought it wasn't so bad maybe
next time bring the heat huh I knew who's going to do that you just know that if you ask bad
questions you probably wouldn't hear from me in a while I'd pull a hand on and just not talk to you
thank you for coming to hell you guys and I'll talk to you later bye bye
Ha-he-he-he-he-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.