Berner Phone - Margaret Josephs: Leaving Your Husband & Saggy Boobs

Episode Date: December 12, 2018

Margaret Josephs is the breakout star on Real Housewives of New Jersey who is older and wiser than me. She left her husband for a contractor, put everything on the line for her own business, and through all the hell, she has taught herself to be confident no matter who is in the room. LIVE SHOW (use the code BERN for 50% off): http://www.carolines.com/comedian/berning-in-hell-live-podcast/ Follow Hannah Berner on Instagram & Twitter: @beingbernz Follow Margaret Josephs on Instagram: @therealmargaretjosephs --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Burning in hell. Ooh, thank you, Hannah. I love to burn in hell with you. Is that creepy of me? No, not that creepy. You're not scared to me at all, and it's freaking me out. I'm trying to be intimidating. No, I'm sorry.

I'm not intimidated. But you're so adorable. How could I be intimidated? Oh, my God, thank you. I did get stressed. stuff for you. I put lipstick on. It looks good. I'm all about a girl and red lipstick. Speaking of girl and red lipstick and ponytails. That's right. Margaret Joseph's from Real Housewives of New Jersey. Yes. And also the Macbeth collection, multi-million dollar company.

That's me. That's the mage right here. The Marge is here. Powerhouse and pig tails. Now, you've lived in non-traditional life. Absolutely non-traditional. You're sitting here. You have a big Instagram. You're on a, you're starring in a show. People look up to you. A lot of many your age would be like damn the marge is crushing how do i be more like the march however i did some research you've been through some dark shit dark shit yes the march has been knocked down but she gets back up again that's the good news well yeah you got to be like a ball until you drop you got to bounce back up you were with your husband for 17 years i was the lovely jan josephs we love jane then and you had children children birth and step and then you fell in love

I fell in love with the contractor. With the contract. Lovely Joe Benignac. We love Joe. I love all Joe's. But it's funny because you said it on the show and everyone kind of laughed because it's funny. But when I listened to it, I was like, it's great that she could laugh at it with her friends now. But that must have been a tough time.

It was a very tough time. And I think people, you know, I make light of it now. And of course, I think that's something I do because when things are hard, I try to make light of it to make everybody else feel better. And I think that's what I do to make myself. self feel better. But no, it was a very hard time because it tore apart my family. I had the most amazing family, just a shitty marriage. And I adore my ex-husband to this day. But we didn't have a great marriage. When did you realize it was shitty? You know, not too far into it. I mean, after I had my son, it was, we were very tumultuous. It was a lot of fighting to, you know, make up,

you know, you break up to makeup. It was a lot of that. Did you grow up? in a household where there was a lot of fighting? My mother was single. I grew up with a single mother. Okay. And she was very kooky, very 1970s, very bohemian, out all night. Not a traditional upbringing whatsoever. So I was raised by wolves. I could have been

a drug actor stripper. Not there's anything wrong with the stripper, you know. Make a lot of money. Cardi B. Yeah, exactly. I'd be happy, you know, if someone paid me to take my clothes off. But truthfully, it was not, it was very 1970s upbringing. And nowadays, people probably would have called Dyphus. I was letting

myself in the house at second grade. You just did that shit. It was not a big deal. So you didn't grow up with someone telling you what you should do. You had like your own intuition. Yeah. I was, I basically raised myself. My mother was working. I'd let myself in. I didn't want to go to my grandparents'

house. So I just was like free to be me. That's really what I was doing. A lot of these millennials have helped. I say these millennials like I'm not one. But we have helicopter parents. Like I grew up. My mom's Italian. She'd, she's a little OCD and she'd clean my room. She'd make sure you're all my sports practice is said and my homework's done and sometimes I feel like I didn't fully know

what I wanted because I was always doing what my parents wanted. So it took me some time to understand my intuition. Like I've been in relationships a little too long. Yes. Because I wasn't listening to the voice in my head that was like, this is wrong. Yeah, it wasn't a healthy situation. So I'm like, oh, I guess it's right. Yeah, you want to make your parents happier. It looks good to everybody else. A lot of people didn't want me to get divorced. And I didn't go into my marriage wanting to get divorced. My marriage wasn't traditional either. My ex-husband's 20 years older than me. He had custody of three children. I want to have a baby. I wound up having a baby. But it wasn't what I signed up for as a family, but it wasn't what I signed up for as a marriage. Did you think he was

the one? Yes. I was madly in love with him. I could still say to this day, my first wedding was one of the best, you know, top 10 days in my life. I thought you say top 10 weddings I've ever house. I was like, you get it, girl. No, it was a beautiful affair. I was very happy. My two steps-ons walked me down the aisle. It was a magnificent day for me. But it wasn't the marriage that I wanted. Because people always say, you'll know, you'll know when he's the one. But then I get freaked down when someone like he was like, I thought he was the one. And a couple years later. No, he was the one for many years. And he was the one I should have had my children with. And then he was not the one I should spend the rest of my life with.

You know what? I love that because I grew up in a traditional home where it's like your parents get married, they have kids, and that's it. Where it's like, you are changing so much as a person, you might not always find the person that's going to be your forever and that it's okay. I agree. I absolutely agree with that. And I think it's abnormal to think that people don't change.

Either you grow together or you grow apart. My ex-husband was much older than me. He was a mature man already. I was 24. And you probably love that. Yes, he was 44. By the time we were older, I was already in my 40s. He was in his 60s.

Do you like younger guys now? No. No. My husband now, Joe is also older than me. He's 11 years older than me. Because men are like squirrels. Their brain doesn't form. No, no.

They're very immature. Most men are immature, which is fine with me. But I've always been attracted to older men. And Joe was who I was meant to be with. And my ex-husband's one of my best friends in the world. I adore him. He's an amazing father. Was he supportive of your business?

He was supportive. He was involved in my business. When did that start? I started my company in 1991. So you'd already been married for? I was married for I got married. Oh my God. No, did I start my company in 1991? No, am I nuts? I got married in 94. Okay. I did not start my company. Oh, so you? No, I'm crazy. I started my company in 2001. Yes, 2000. I met my ex-husband in 1991. I got married in 1994. Okay. And I started my company in 2001. Okay. Do you think starting your company changed you a I think starting my company changed me. I was a dress designer in the Garmin Center. I saw FIT Girl, right?

FIT Girl. I left a little while after I had my son. I started my own company. And it really started taking off about that. My ex-husband got involved in it. We sold everybody. We were in the home industry. We sold Neiman Marcus.

We sold sex. It was all very custom monogramable and all that stuff. But it really started killing it in 2009. My marriage was going down the tubes. My business started. was going up. Isn't that crazy how that happens? I was a tennis player and they always said that in college you either have two out of three things working like tennis, social life school. You can't have all three, which is fucking annoying. I know. Why can't we have it all? Well, I think we can but you have to

change the situation sometimes. Yeah, you have to change the dynamic. Exactly. But it's true. I have a great business. I have a great marriage. I have great friends. But there's always something like people know two of my children that I raised were very disconnected. It's very heartbreaking. But there's always something. Yeah. Did you have an entrepreneurial like bug or were you always kind of, did you always know you wanted to be an entrepreneur? I just felt like I always wanted something of my own. I work for someone else. And then I said, let me start this business. I never knew it was going to blow up into something. That's the best ideas that just come and they're organic. You're not forcing it. I was always super creative.

I always wanted to do something. I love working for myself. I'm very non-traditional. First of all, I'm not a morning person. I can never sit in an office all day. I could barely get out of my bed. I work in my pajamas to like 11 every day.

Because all these, if you go on Instagram, all these entrepreneurs are like, you gotta hustle and grind. You got to wake up at 5 a.m. And it's like, sorry, my brain doesn't work till 10. That doesn't make me a lazy piece of shit. No, because I could stay up all night.

I'm up very late. I'm a late night girl, but I like to sleep late when I can. On the weekend, I'm definitely, don't call me before 10 a. I'm not out of that bed. I mean, if I have to have an early morning meeting, I'll do it during the week when I have to. But I'm all about the hustle.

I love that. But it sounds like you're very in touch with yourself and what you want. When did you start? I like to call them the whispers, which is that voice inside your head that you can either ignore or listen to. When did you get the whispers that you wanted to leave your relationship, especially you're in a town. I'm envisioning a small town, the community where everyone knows each other.

I call it 10 by 5. Everybody knows. So it's like, when did you get that whisper? I knew In my late 30s, things weren't good We went to therapy And we worked on it We definitely worked on it

It's not like you just throw in the towel By the way, no one leaves a happy marriage I don't care everyone says Oh, he'd cheat on me, this, that Yeah, there's assholes and scummy guys out there Or scummy women But the truth is no one leaves someone If you're not happy, those things don't happen

If you're happy. Relationships are a lot of work I was in my late 30s I knew things weren't good We were working on it. And even though my ex-husband really didn't want the breakup, he couldn't have been happy either. If I'm not happy, one person's not happy. Believe me, the other person's not happy.

Yeah, that's not love. Love is like a two-person thing. It's a two-to-tengo. It's two people. You could like how it looks on paper. He likes walking around with you at parties. Yeah. We were amazing at parties.

By the way, I'll tell you, we look great. We look good at a party. I was dancing all night with somebody else while he was sitting there, you know, talking to people at the table. You guys look so confident in each other. We looked at, you know. They don't even need. to be with each other.

Exactly. We were great at a party. We were social. People liked to be with us. But we'd go home, you know, if we were on a vacation, I'd be setting up the beach chairs. He'd be at the gym. Yeah. When did the sex stop?

No, that really didn't stop. Well, it's good to know because some people go, oh, when you stop having sex, I'm like, I know a lot of happy people who don't have sex. No, it could stop having sex. I mean, I was still into him sexually, but it wasn't about the sex. Sounds like it was fiery. It was a fiery relationship. And I don't want to say it was because it wasn't about the sex

With him it was more about the emotion It was I just didn't want to be the Bickersons And that's what we were And everything, if I left the, if I lost the car keys It's like I killed his parents Uh-huh You don't want to live your life walking on eggshells It was a very eggshell life

I would hide the packages in the trunk of the car I'd be like shit Jan's gonna have a fucking freak out I shopped I did this I did that You know I'd hide all the packages Joe is like go you know Buy stuff go shopping He loves to shop with me He comes in the dressing room with me

he's a doll he's my best friend he is he's just he's just more he's just easy he accepts me for who i am jam loved the image of me and but he didn't love who i really was like he loved to look at me i'm the greatest margaret you're the best mother you're great you're fabulous i was very my in-laws i had to say we're the best you know you look fabulous you look this well this is exactly who i am but everything about me you want you to spend too much money you're fucking crazy that you know and he still says that to me even though I know he loves it. It's just not what he really wanted.

And that's almost maybe how he's showing his love. But it does. It makes you feel a little empty because you don't feel like you can just be. And you have found another guy who doesn't think that stuff's annoying. We were meant to be together. No, that stuff was, it was just shown. Wait, but how did you know this contract and you were meant to be together? I just, you'll know.

You'll just know. You'll feel it. And when I knew I was in trouble. The way he was contracting. We were friends first. No, when he was contracting, when he swung that hammer and pounded that knife into the wall. no it was we were friends first he was doing work in my home it didn't happen overnight it's not like oh so he walked in my house it was like bend over let me clean your pipes i envisioned like desperate

housewise when like the new plumber comes in and she's like i will ravish you yes no it was nothing like that we were friends first okay we had deep conversation it was it was much more intense and it was we were just on the same page did you feel like he just understood you he understood me he understands people in general what he looks like is not what he is on the inside i thought he's funny he's hysterical I mean he's like this tough contractor and he just knew everything about celebrity gossip which I thought was very very funny a long time ago

he knew at the time Lindsay Lohan was having all this drama he's like oh my god do you hear with having Lindsay Lohan I was like are you like a girl in a guy's body Are you fucked up and I'm a gay man in a girl's body That's so funny he loves me on the show He thinks I'm hilarious he's very supportive In anything I do I think he loves being on the show Which I think is so funny

He'll do anything he's not shy Do you know what kind of bullshit you'd have to deal with If a guy was like I don't want to do this I don't like when you go on carpet. I don't think when people know he are. No, he's nothing like that. He's so super support. I mean, he's always on Boob Patrol. I will say that. He's anti like any, you know, boobs constantly out on display. He's always like, hide your boobs. You're going to have a nip slip. He's a little jealous that way. But besides that, he's fine. I like a little jealousy. Because

I've had guys who haven't been that jealous and I'm like, do you want me? Yeah, I know what you're saying. I want a little, I want a little like they grab you. Like, what do you do? Because I'm not going to flirt inappropriately, but I like to know that you don't want me to. You don't. You I think you're right. I'm not going to do it, but I want you to know that you don't want me to. Yes, of course. Yeah, Joe, but I think it's funny that Joe thinks anybody would want me including gay men. Now, I feel like I understand you a little now, but now I want to get to know you a little deeper of course. You've been through all this stuff. You're so strong. But what gives you day-to-day anxiety? Day-to-day anxiety. I think business things give me day-to-day anxiety. I'll tell you why.

I support a lot of people. And I have a lot of business shit. And when a lot of people rely on you, it's very stressful because you don't want to let anybody down and I want to make a lot of people happy and that's what gives me day-to-day anxiety. I've had a lot of business. It's been in the, you know, especially when you go on a reality show, there's nothing to hide. I've had lawsuits in business. I've taken very bad hits and a lot of people rely on me for their income and it's, that is very stressful because, you know, I'm not, you know, I'm paid by other people. I'm in licensing. I have to make a lot of people happy. It's a lot of maneuvering, a lot of ass kissing. Sometimes you don't want to do it. Put on a happy face when you don't want to in business. You got to show up whether you don't

want to. You know, some days you're not feeling creative. Public image is very, very important in certain business. You have to have a social, you know, a certain decorum. Luckily, I'm not a train wreck and a lush, thank the Lord. I get a very bad headache. That's why I don't drink. I admit to anything, by the way, no prior history. alcohol issues but I think that's what gives me day-to-day stress my business gives me day-to-day stress because it's a it's a lot of people it's my livelihood I have a lot of people to feed and I want to make those people happy but it sounds like you'd prefer that kind of pressure than not being able to no I prefer that kind of pressure because you could always say fuck this I want

to go move to Mexico and drink peanut cladis all day no I could my husband thank God is successful and I could just live off that and not worry about anybody else but I built this machine, and now I have to keep it up. So be very careful what you wish for. That's sometimes what I say. And people on the outside think, you know, you have this business. And people think they know business. People don't really understand business when you work for yourself and what happens.

And I always say, you know, even with my lawsuits, you know, the law is always justice. And you're involved with people. And, you know, you take it the way it comes. And that's just the way it is. But I've been knocked down numerous times. I've owed my lawyers close to millions of dollars. and I paid it and I've had amazing years

where I'm tripping the life fantastic going to same parts three times and I've had years where I haven't taken one fucking vacation but I always do it with a happy face and I do live my life to the fullest and I try and help have my family live life to the fullest because you never know what's

going to happen tomorrow. I'm never really worried about tomorrow that way I always live in the moment. It takes skill to do that. Yes I my ex-husband always says to me goes I don't know how he is so fucking happy every day and I always because you know what you never know what's going to happen tomorrow and you have to live like it's your last day it was risky for you to do reality TV given that if things went bad

people always get very scared about reality TV the edits the producers whatever were you afraid that you going on could potentially hurt your income of your business no I felt like it could help it because a lot of people didn't know about my brand it was a down low brand though we sold very large retailers so you were wholesale I was a wholesale wholesale wholesale and licensing and I a very small tight team managing those deals that you trust i trust my team implicitly and managing those deals sometimes can be very stressful i work with mostly men in those deals which you have any advice for women who are going to a meeting with only men in the room i say just be yourself and don't try and be a guy just just absolutely be yourself and you don't have to be a bitch

to be a boss i love that and then i really believe that because i don't think i'm a bitch Yeah, you don't have to pretend that you know everything that happened in the football game on Sunday. And you don't have to scare and threaten everyone like you're their mom. And you could just go in and be authentic. Yes. Be nice. Just be,

there's nothing wrong with being nice. But don't people, sometimes I think it's better to be underestimated. And I think that's what happened to me also while going to Ruma. Who's this Dippy Blonde with the pigtails and this? And then, you know, and then you can bowl right over them.

And I think that's helpful. Under promise over deliver. Yes. I love that. And be underestimated. I love it. But you are very. confident i could just see how you carry yourself but what are you actually insecure about physically

or emotionally physically not that much because i've become very comfortable in my body did you used to be i used to now i like your 20s are hard 20s are hard i mean listen i never loved my legs they're little polkies but i deal with it you know it's i've never at that deficit listen now my tits is what am i going to do my husband doesn't want me to get a boob lift physically i don't get why not why doesn't he He's like, I love your boobs the way they are. What are you crazy? I don't want those fake knockers. So what am I going to do?

I think that's so romantic of him. It is, but it's annoying to get dressed. All my other girls are like, all my other girls are like getting dressed, not wearing a bra. And there I am like trying to strapless, showing back facts. I get, you know, totally. He loves you for all of you. I get insulted on Instagram. They're like, your tits.

It's afflainted. There's that. You know, I'm like, relax people. So I don't, you know, so I don't get that insecure. about the way I love that because some of my friends will complain about I'll be like oh you boobs are great and they're like when I get older it's going to be horrible and it's like you know what is it really the end of the world that your tits aren't like straight up I think it's abnormal for everybody to look like a cookie cutter whatever happened to age and gracefully whatever happened

it's like I'm okay with plastic surgery but I don't think people should look like a blow-up doll I don't think you should try to change how you look I think you should learn to like how you And if you age naturally, it's nice. Listen, if you have the hugest nose in America, you can get a nose job. If you are totally not happy with the way you look, but to transform yourself into totally a different person and everybody's starting to look very homogenous, I don't like that at all. It's true. It's horrible.

They all look like a different kind of cat. Yeah. Yes, a different kind of cat. A different breed of cats. Yeah. And they're pretty women. These are beautiful women that want to be something that's actually on Instagram and filtered.

Yes. You can't go to your plastic surgeon and say, I want to look like this. thing that's been edited to make her eyes bigger and her nose smaller. That's not human. It's not human and with the big fake lips and I don't give a shit. Most of the people have cellulite unless I'm just in their 20s. Imagine in your 20s

getting... Unless you're my castmates, I will say I mean, most of my castmates don't have cellulite. I think I'm the only one that does. I'm going to be honest. But they're all like they are really Italian. They have olive oil in their skin. It's true. I mean, that's only thing that pisses me off about them. Speaking of Instagram, I want to play a quick game called Instomosity.

because i know that you must have to deal with some instagram stuff as in get harassed on instagram all the time we just see you as this big instagrammer but you are also scrolling on instagram and having your own emotions yes so first question do you remember one picture on instagram where you looked happy but you actually weren't where did i look happy and i actually wasn't i'm sure at some event there was some tragedy i can't remember where i was Oh, yeah, you know, on the night of watch what happens live, I found out afterwards they took a picture and Siggy had, I'm going to be honest, I've released my divorce papers. I had my divorce someone on my cast and it was somebody, rumor has it, I can't say it was definitely, but I had released my divorce papers and they didn't want me to know about it the night I went and watch what happens live and my publicist, Michelle, everybody hit it for me. So afterwards they took a picture with me

And I had found out about it Wow and it's funny because other people are looking at like Wow her life looks amazing Yeah and I was on watch what happens And I was perky and jovial but they released it Wow how'd you cope with that? I was pissed that night afterwards But I held it together

I mean listen it was I dealt with it Whatever it was that was something very private Because I keep my children very private Yeah yeah and I respect that You have to have some kind of boundaries I have boundaries with that because they didn't ask to go on this show. They didn't ask for it.

And I respect that of them. Do you think they will ever warm up to it? No. No, hands down, no. It sounds like there's kind of this war between you and your kids as in you're like, this is what mom needs to be happy. And then they're like, well, this is what we want. Yes.

This is what we think you should do for us. Yes. And I think that's also what it is. I think they're just like, well, you're not thinking of us, you know, certain ones. And I'm just like, I'm at that age. You guys have your own identity. I'm not going to force you to do anything. You can't force me to do anything.

I gave up a big part of my life for you guys. I got you up, out, successful. Yep. Check, check, check. Check, check. Everyone's good. Now I do my thing. Now that they see you happy with Joe, do you think they understand the divorce more?

I have numerous children. The two that aren't talking to me. I think they're still very sad about it. want you to be sad with your ex? No, I don't think, and I, my ex is very happy. He's a lovely girlfriend. I just think families are complicated. And I think their own, their own mom, I, they grew up with me after their original, you know, their birth mom. Oh, so this was their second hit. This was their second hit, even though they were much older. And I think it was very upsetting to them. Yeah. Yep. But obviously, I'll do anything, you know, for us to be together.

You're a mother. You're the mom. As far as I'm concerned, even though I didn't birth those two, they're my whole life and I live for them and I'll do anything and I don't get you know I'll do until the day I die so that's the story I love that yeah I live for them I got distracted but now we're on question too okay who are you jealous of on Instagram oh who am I jealous of on Instagram well just because even though she's had so much plastic surgery she just and she just and she's fit I love the I'm trying to think is it Lily Galici just because she has so much fake hair and she always looks so good and she just birthed the kid and she looks so skinny I just But not that I want to look like it, but I just love everything about her.

She's so over the top. She's so fabulous. But also, who else? How do you say her list? How do you say her list? Ferragni. Faragni. I love her life.

She's fabulous. That would be great. She's one of those OG bloggers. And now she's like in Italy with her. Yeah, from the blonde salad. And now she's living in Italy. That would be ideal. My Joe, truthfully, would love to buy a place in Italy.

That's his goal. Life goals. And it's my dream. That's life goals. from my job. Life goals. But yeah, Kira Farragic. Yeah, like her life looks pretty beautiful to me. Lastly, does anything trigger you on Instagram

to make you feel depressed when you're scrolling? Anything upsetting when there's a tragedy. When there's a tragedy, you know, and people don't ban together and people make it out about them or some nonsense. And they fight about it. And they fight about it. That's very, very upsetting. When people can't

ban together, it's very upsetting. Does it affect you when people call your boobs saggy or say they hate you? No, I think it's kind of funny. Why? Because that I could raise such emotion in people, I get a kick out of it. And then, you know, the best part is then you go look at what they look like on Instagram. And it's like, then you're just like, girl. You know what they say some people are made for TV and some art? I think you have the skin. Thank you. No, I do. I have tough skin. I did hear from my people that you might be, have a huge season. Oh, thank you. Like you already were a

breakout. Thank you. This is exciting for you. That's why I wanted to have it. Yes, it's exciting. It's exciting. It's exciting. I enjoy it. I only like very famous people. Okay, I'm going to try not to disappoint you. I'm going to try and bring my A game for you, Hannah. I am pumped. I'm so pumped. And I want to end with one final game. Because you've been doing pretty well, but this is about to get real. Seven Deadly Sins. My first question for you, what are you greedy about? My time. Why? Because I don't have a lot of free time.

I'm very greedy about my time. Are you good at saying no to people? Horrible at saying no to people. Then how do you find time for yourself? I don't answer the phone. No, I don't, you know, then I don't answer the phone. I ghost people and they go berserk. But I can't help it.

Sometimes I have to. Okay. So ignore. It's the best policy. I like that. Who are you envious of in general, not just Instagram? Who am I envious of in general? I don't really have envy of people.

I'm just, I feel like I'm very lucky. I wish, I know that sounds like a pompous thing to say. No, it's not pompous. It's healthy. No, I don't have envy of people. I only good people deserve good things. You're like a horse with blinders on. It seems like you're not competing with anyone but yourself.

No, I enjoy good things for good people. I wish everybody could have everything amazing that they deserve. You know, if an asshole has something good, you know, I would say, oh, they'll get theirs. It doesn't bother me. You've good energy. Thank you. What are you gluttonous about? What are my gluttonous about?

I know. You got your TV show. on? What are you grabbing for? What do you overdue? Oh, shopping clothes. But you know, Joe is sometimes like slow your roll. I've been better. Some parties excessive excessive

I'm always throwing, having people. It's funny, but you don't drink. I don't drink because you like to see people. I like to have people around. I'm always inviting. Like Joe said, this Thanksgiving, we are not doing, you know, every Christmas I have 125 people over. So you have no social anxiety. No. You get your energy from being around people. I love being around a lot of people.

what's your sign i love to throw an event aries oh okay we get along i'm leo oh i like it now when was the last time you experienced wrath wrath wrath anger oh anger i know wrath that's what i'm trying to say when was i really mad i oh just the other day what'd you do oh my god i threw a glass of water at my son i was livid he was pissing me off he was saying crazy stuff

oh god he was bitching me god knows about what and i just took like a glass of i'm like shut your fucking pie hole and i like threw water right at you have to keep him on his toes wait can i just tell you something yeah did not deter him he just kept on talking i mean the march throwing glass of water someone in my house is not abnormal i just got scared but i guess it's the normal thing i mean i can throw a glass just to he's probably good at dodge ball you need to cool down that people don't think that's abnormal of me i've thrown my mother with a glass of water my husband my ex-husband i threw a glass of the season yet not a glass okay i haven't thrown the whole glass have you find yourself in the season

when you get really angry trying to subdue yourself or you just let it go i let it go good for you Well, I don't, when I get really mad, I could talk in a calm tone. I'm not, the Melissa claims, you get loud, you get, I go, Melissa. Melissa's screaming across the, I say, you know, I say, you know, I could say in a calm, and then I, you know, I could say, a calm anger is scary. A calm, yes, a calm anger. And I think I scare people just with my tone. I love that. I don't have to get all hysterical in your face.

Can I speak to you for a second? Yeah, I could get, I could be, I could be a condescending bitch, make you feel like a stupid ass in about two seconds. That's my favorite kind of bitch. It's my favorite. When was the last time you were a sloth? Because I know you run a multi-million dollar business, but you got to get lazy sometimes. Oh, yeah.

I mean, have you seen my office? Last time I was the sloths on a daily basis. I'm just like, oh, Lindsay, put it on that chair. Oh, just stick it over there. Do you think it's because you have a creative brain that you... Yes. That's what I live in my mom. Yes.

I live in my closet. I get undressed. I throw shit on the floor. I don't care. I love that. I'm like, when's the cleaning lady coming? Marlady. See, I can't afford a cleaning lady yet, but when I do.

You will. You will. By the way, you work just so you have a cleaning lady. my theory. I work just so I don't clean my own toilets. I love that. I'm going to put that on a t-shirt. What was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something? Last time I let my pride get in the way or something. Probably with Joe. I think we've had a fight and I've stood my ground. Probably not even that long ago. Do you fight differently with him than your ex? Yes. I don't curse the Joe. I don't curse the Joe. So you have like a boundary. We have a boundary. I'm not

going to go. I'm not going to say the vicious shit I used to say. Sometimes I'm ashamed of the is to speak to my ex-husband. It's almost like once you break the barrier of like name-calling and cursing, then it's broken and you lose that trust of like caretaking. Like you don't feel like you need to be kind. Joe, I mean, maybe I said fucking you to him once, but he never curses at me. He never says those horrible things to me. I would know, I can't.

I'd feel very bad. He'd be very hurt. He's very sensitive. I love a sensitive man. He's sensitive. What was the last time you lusted over someone? Oh, I lest over my husband. Probably this weekend.

This weekend. You still find him sexy. Oh, yeah, I totally. Oh, my God. Yes. Yes. Him, you know, it's funny. Sometimes, like, if I'm too tired, he's like, March.

We've had sex in three weeks. I'm like, Joe, it's like three hours. I mean, that's the kind of shit he says to me. Modge. Zda, da, da, da, da, da. Do you have any advice to keep your sex life happy and healthy? I just think you have to make it a priority. Sex has to be a priority.

And you have to make time for it. Because the truth is, I'm too lazy after dinner because I don't like to have sex on a stomach i'm like don't squeeze me so we always have sex like before dinner before we go out we take a disco nap i don't go for mexican before indian oh yeah oh for sure oh horrible but i'm just saying you have to have sex regularly to keep it's important to keep it going i love that and have to a long time that's why joe and i shower together all the time really every day shower sex is kind of no we don't have sex and show but the intimacy you have to keep the intimacy i love that you just you wash each other No, like I wash my hair.

I go on to the water first. He goes on to the world. We gossip because the phones aren't near you. You're not answering the phone. You could have nice talk. I love that. It's so romantic. But this is the question.

Do you have the same temperature preferences? Yes. I like it hot and he likes it hot. See, I've been in relationships where I like it hot and they don't and it's just, it ends badly. That's a problem. That's when you want them to accidentally slip, you know? Just kidding. So we're going to end this podcast with one final question.

Okay. A lot of people are listening in because they kind of, they want advice. son how you've gotten to be successful and you've dealt with your demons do you have any kind of final thoughts of advice of how you cope with your hell yes i think the best way to cope with your own personal hell is everybody should not be so hard on themselves because life is not people's instagrams and everything is not greener on the other side and don't be so hard on yourself and so judgmental and i and i think that's what women and people in general do to themselves and it's nothing is what it seems and everybody has some struggle and that's really how you deal with it

and take one day at a time and live in the present because that's what it is it's a present and you never know what's going to happen tomorrow and that's really how I deal with it that's so beautiful it's so true treat yourself the way you treat your best friend I become your best that's the best you're right be compassionate honestly you crushed hell thank you're very comfortable I like being in hell with you though being in hell with a gorgeous girl like you Oh, thank you. I'm so happy you came. Now, tell me, are you excited for this season?

Very excited for the season. I haven't marked on my calendar. Wednesday night, 9 p.m. Wednesday, 9 p.m. And everyone watch where the march goes. Thank you. Thanks for having me.