Berner Phone - Michael Rapaport: Disruptive & Doing It Well

Episode Date: September 15, 2021

You've seen him everywhere, whether he's being Phoebe's boy toy on Friends, the Dad on Netflix's Atypical, or ranting on a comedy stage anywhere in the country, Michael Rapaport always brings the heat.... We immediately hit it off with our sense of humor, but I was determined to dig deep and learn a little more about the mind behind the man.--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I feel like the reason why Connor McGregor attacked machine gun Kelly last, the other day at the VME's, was there wasn't any beef. I think he attacked him simply because his music sucks. What's up, guys? We are in hell for another. episode. It's going to get spicy. It's going to get fiery. The devil is ready to talk some shit. Today, we are with esteemed actor. I rarely use the word esteemed. I don't think I've ever said the word of people before. It didn't sound like you said it before. It was weird. Starring in over 60 films. This guy's very old. Hilarious comedian, reality TV fanatic, podcaster, currently touring, and my best friend, Michael Rappaport.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Hannah Burner Now I have a question Is it Hannah or Hannah Okay So Michael has known me for a couple months And I've let him pronounce my name However he wants to
Starting point is 00:01:12 Most people call me Hannah Hannah But like in the Jewish religion They say Hana And then Midwest they say Hannah Hannah I'll probably do all variations of it You can say whatever you want
Starting point is 00:01:24 Inadvertently during this podcast You as an esteemed actor you call me whatever the fuck you want. All right. And I could do it in different accents because I'm so esteemed. Now, Michael's come in a little hot, as always. He recently got some news about the Met Gala. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Well, Hanna, I'm born and raised in New York City. I am born and raised in Manhattan without being too specific. I'm, let's just say, within eight blocks of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. I grew up around there. I still live around there. I currently since I've been back in New York full time I walk by that museum while I'm doing my power slash active walk every morning
Starting point is 00:02:07 and to find out this week once again after I don't know let's just say 30 years of being some level of famous once again that I can't get a fucking invite in my own city yet Naomi Osaka I'm a ding-dong, and somebody else are hosting it, and I can't even get fucking tickets. Now, I understand on the surface, I'm probably not the person.
Starting point is 00:02:35 Like, I'm not a fashion person, but the disrespect. You have nice sneakers. I got nice sneakers. My wife, okay, she's got outfits. She's into the row. Your mom, your wife wears outfits. My wife got nice shit. She, you know, she spruces me up.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I'm offended that machine gun Kelly is going to show up. there looking like a real housewife of nowhere and i can't get a fucking invite yet again he did look like lisa rana at the meck gallery straight up but i this is why i love you i because i thought the exact same thing that was the lisa rina reunion look right there that would have crushed i do have to say though timothy chevrolet they go to la gordia he is a new york kid he's great he's great but it's not just five people being invited to the goddamn meck gallop i'm i like shama lama ding-tong okay I'm just saying the fact that it happened once again when they want somebody to talk shit about Dick's name Donald Trump
Starting point is 00:03:33 when they want somebody to talk shit about Rudy Giuliani when they want someone to talk shit they come to me I can't get an invite I'm not saying I even have to be on the main like you know when they're walking in the gimps like when Kim Kardashian is dressed up like a leather gimp or like you could put me like the second tier group of people but let me in the building did you go to any fashion week events hell no Did you get invited to any fashion week events? Hell no.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Hell no. You never give a fuck about anything. You don't give a fuck about what people think. Why do you give a fuck about the mech, Ella? I'm not saying I would go. I would probably be sleeping by the time the whole thing happened. I'm just saying if they extended an invite, it would go far. Like I feel like I deserve an invite extended to me and Mrs. Go fuck yourself.
Starting point is 00:04:24 Mr. and Mrs. Go fuck yourself deserve an invite. I mean, look at me. I mean, look at me. Beautiful. 50 fucking one years old. I can't get one invitation to the MetGala after. I mean, I went to PS-150.
Starting point is 00:04:38 I went to so many. That's my. Well, this is a great segue, because I was looking into how you got here in this frame of mind. You are from New York City. I looked at your Wikipedia and it said you had a bad time in school.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yes. What did that mean? I was a version of this. My mother swears when I came out of the womb. Now obviously I developed. You looked at the doctor and said, Who the fuck are you? Essentially.
Starting point is 00:05:08 And that's why I had a hard time in school. I wasn't like a fighter. I didn't start fires. I wasn't like in there like, you know, breaking things. I was just, the word they used was disruptive. Disruptive. Disruptive behavior. Disruptive, disruptive, disruptive. That was the word they used. And, you know, I'm 51. So this is, you know, in kindergarten 5, 6, I have those report, those report cards and those progress reports. I have like second grade, third grade. And disruptive, disruptive, disruptive. So that's, I was a version of this. Do you have a problem with authority, do you think? I definitely have a problem with authority I have a problem with boundaries
Starting point is 00:05:54 I know how to behave within the boundaries but I am a pusher of boundaries Yes I mean I feel like we're a little similar Especially as a stand-up or a tennis player I'm very individual minded And I tried the reality TV Be a part of the cool kids club
Starting point is 00:06:12 It didn't work out for me And also They're gonna want you back Well Bravo said the door is always open but we'll see how that plays out. You know that I went to Beacon on the Upper West Side. Do you know that? LaGuardia?
Starting point is 00:06:27 Beacon. What's Beacon? It's like a, it's maybe a newer public school, but it's right next door to MLK. Because I went to Martin Luther King. Yes. And when I went to Martin Luther King, I was number one, the only white kid in Martin Luther King, but more importantly, at the time in LaGuardia was Adrian Brody. I didn't know this, found out later.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Adrian Brody, Omar Epps. Nikki Minaj. Nikki's younger to me. there was a few people that were really dope. But my school was so fucked up that during that year, it was 87, 88. They wound up leaving, they wound up letting the LaGuardia kids get out earlier because the Martin Luther King kids were robbing them. Every Halloween, they let us out an hour early
Starting point is 00:07:11 because Martin Luther King kids would get us right on the corner and throw eggs at us. They would just pick us off one by one. but that helped you know build some you know personality i think and agility for tennis very agile zigzag guys zigzag now i i got to say you said i wanted to segue into how you got there i thought when you said you wanted to segue uh that you wanted to segue into machine gun kelly or as they call them m gk dressing like Lisa renna and i and i have to i would like to debate you because his outfit at the vmese wasn't like a leasing
Starting point is 00:07:47 Lisa Rina Reunion costume. It was more like a Lisa Rina tea party outfit. Valid. Valid. Because it's red. And it's, and you know, he's like a suit. But I swear I thought the same thing. He's dressed like fucking Lisa Rina at the VMAs.
Starting point is 00:08:04 And that's fine. Listen, the guy's got a beautiful blue eyes, handsome. I think the reason why Connor McGregor attacked him. Now, I saw a statement online. I don't know if it's a real statement. But I believe. and I've been very hard on the fighter Connor McGregor. I feel like the reason why
Starting point is 00:08:20 Connor McGregor attacked Machine Gun Kelly last, the other day at the VMEs was there wasn't any beef. I think he attacked him simply because his music sucks. That's what I think. He's personally offended by the lyrics and the lack of...
Starting point is 00:08:38 Just the lack of anything. The lack of originality, the rack of soulfulness, the lack of depth. I think he was just And I'm not saying Connor McGregor is a person with a lot of depth because I've been very hard on Cona McGregor. But in this case,
Starting point is 00:08:52 if it is true that he attacked him because of the music sucking and the fact that he dresses like a housewife, I have to say, I'm glad it didn't turn into a physical altercation, but I'm glad that he made a statement saying we're not accepting these outfits. Like, cut the shit.
Starting point is 00:09:08 You're not Tommy Lee. This isn't Pamela Anderson. Tommy Lee could play the fucking drums. You just learned to play guitar. My cousin, who's 13, does the same chords. And that's why I think the altercation happened. I mean, Machine Gun Kelly is a punchable guy. I totally get it.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I think maybe little men could be angry. Like, if you were short, imagine how angry you'd be. Right, because I'm 6'3 and fucking piping high. He's 6'3 and he still hates the world. But I, yes, that's true. But I understand. I think maybe he said... Was there like an Irish thing happening?
Starting point is 00:09:46 they're both Irish. Kelly, that sounds Irish. Yeah, it might be. If that's even his real name. It was a gaylic thing. I think his first name is actually Kelly. Yeah. Wasn't he a rapper originally? Yes. And somebody said, and no disrespect, I'm not knocking the hustle because I don't knock anybody's hustle. Somebody said, listen, you're not that good of a rapper.
Starting point is 00:10:02 You're never going to be that good of a rapper, but you're good looking. Yeah. You're tall. You have blue eyes. If we put a guitar in your hand and you could just assimilate that you're playing a guitar, just like pretend it, like some milly-vanilly shit, you're going to make even more money. and fox around people get very distracted
Starting point is 00:10:17 you don't even have to move your fingers no one's gonna fucking be paying attention I think this was just some classic angry white guy bullshit they got across paths they had like a you know dogs and they see each other start barking it was that one of those moments but Connor McGregor's not like I I have listen I have talked a lot of shit
Starting point is 00:10:34 about Connor McGregor I have talked a lot of shit about McCona McGregor and if if he if he is in fact aware of the fact that I talked shit about it and I saw him and he was like not happy. I know he wouldn't hit me because he's a professional fighter, but the fact that somebody like that who could literally like put you in an arm bar and like, you know, disabled the whole,
Starting point is 00:10:56 I would be fucking scared shit. Like I wouldn't get my wife, my kids. I'd be like, deal with this shit, run. Save yourself. There's no fake tough guy shit with this. Like he'll literally, he could break your foot. You'll lose your New York accent. You just have a Midwest accent. Crying, begging and running. Okay. Also, machine gun is arguably- MGK. MGK, sorry. Come on, man. Be respectful.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Machine, machine. MGK is arguably very popular right now because he's an item. He's an item with Megan Fox. You're a celebrity. Even though I've seen this fucking guy, he will talk to anyone, anywhere. Tell them recommendations on the restaurant to go in New York City. You are down to earth, motherfucker. Yes.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But you're still a celebrity. Yes. And I'm fascinated by the media and how it works. Have you ever in your career been set up or recommended to do? date someone to elevate your profile? No. No. The only thing that I could say is, is in the 90s, there were, and I'll, you don't even
Starting point is 00:11:55 have to ask, because I'll never tell you. But there were a few opportunities to date, like, really high profile women, and I didn't take them. And at the time, at the time, I was so street-minded and so fuck that, yo, keep it real, this. When I look back, I would have liked those notches in my belt. I would have liked those notches. Because the street, I feel like appreciates hot women. I know.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I was out of my mind. Oh, you thought that it was like, I want my pure talent to do well. I don't want to play these games and politics. Nah, like, yo, I'd rather like, you know, like the checkout girl at Dagestino. Like that was like, like, like I'd rather like a bad Puerto Rican. Oh, you want a bad girl. I want to, I want to like a like a like a real life J-Lo at the checkout. out at Gristidi.
Starting point is 00:12:44 But I feel like these celebrity women, they're fucking dark. Dark. Dark. I, I skip, they're dark. They're scary. Yes. I could have gotten caught up in all kinds of shit if I had done that. I think there's a innocence to you almost that like you have a family, you have a wife, you like to talk shit on podcasts, but you could have got caught off in a lot of
Starting point is 00:13:07 the drugs and partying back in the day. Yes, but it's not my thing. Why not? It's just never been my thing. I mean, long story short is It's just not my thing now Like I'm not a smoker I'm not a drink I've never snored in anything
Starting point is 00:13:19 I'm never taking any fucking pills You know weed's been my shit But long story short is that Like when I was in like a kid Like from 9 to 17 18 Like my goal was to be an NBA player Now obviously I came up real real real real short But at least I had a goal
Starting point is 00:13:39 And I was like well if you're going to play in the NBA You can't smoke You can't play in the NBA you can't drink you know and that's why I don't fuck with stuff because that was my whole in your head right I was like oh I'm gonna be an athlete so I can't mess around with this stuff right it didn't even cross my mind my dad always says because you guys would get along he's I grew up my grandpa where are we the same age you and your dad he's 56 fuck work where I'm 51 so like I'm closer and I should be doing a podcast with your dad we'll have to have him in so my my grandpa was a basketball coach in Brooklyn growing up and he was one of those guys in movies where he's like you're gonna be an architect and he'd like get some guys to college, becomes an architect, that kind of shit. But my dad, all he wanted was to become a pro basketball player, but he goes, God made me a Jewish man with
Starting point is 00:14:21 small hands and 5'10. So. There's no, there's no chance. He didn't make it. So at what point were you like, I want to be a famous actor, a comedian? Like 17, when I realized, like, I wasn't getting a college scholarship. Were you playing in high school? Yeah. But I was good, but not.
Starting point is 00:14:40 MLK probably had a decent team. We sucked. got better at one point like after i left i think that's why they got better when i left we got really but but like five or six years later i heard they won the city championship but yeah it just wasn't it just wasn't meant to be like and and i had always you know loved acting i loved actors i loved movies and then um you know and then i was like i need to figure out a plan b so i started doing stand-up comedy when i was 19 and when you think about how stupid you are when you're 19 especially a 19-year-old boy.
Starting point is 00:15:16 And then comedy, because of the comedy, I got invited to auditions for acting jobs. And as soon, the first time, like, I read, like, a script to audition. Like, I was like, this is what I'm going to do. Like, this is what I'm going to do. This came more natural than any fucking sport, any basketball, stand-up comedy. I was like, this is what I'm doing. And, like, this is it.
Starting point is 00:15:41 I just jump in the world. I fucking love that. I almost feel like with life, it's like surfing where like when you find, everyone's like, don't quit, keep fighting. And you could do whatever you want in life.
Starting point is 00:15:53 But when you find that thing that's really right for you, it's like surfing when like you get on the wave and you just go. And you're like, oh, it could feel like this. But you weren't like a theater kid. No.
Starting point is 00:16:02 I was just basketball like, you know, I was like a basketball like hanging out with my friends and that was, you know, was my shit. Like I wasn't a theater kid. Like I thought like LaGuardia was like
Starting point is 00:16:11 fucking loose. These fucking, you know, these fucking theater, musical theater, artists, and, you know, dancers and shit. Like, I was this is stupid. When you went to L.A., were there people being like, okay, you're crazy or like, you know, it's impossible to make it, that kind of thing? I just, when I look back at my mentality at the time, like, my mentality was blinders. You know, and, you know, when people ask me, well, what do you need to get into this business or what's your biggest advice? Like, I'm like, talent is obviously very important, but you need the tenacity. to deal with people telling you shouldn't do it,
Starting point is 00:16:46 your parents down on you, you need the tenacity for the amount of rejection that you get, I don't care what level you're on. There's like a handful of elite people, like Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt, a few of them that are even left that don't get disappointed. And those guys' disappointment is like,
Starting point is 00:17:04 oh, well, I didn't get to do it, you know, Matt Damon got to do it. But the majority of actors, no matter how good they are, no matter how great they are. There's always disappointment. There's always, you know, ebbs and flows to your career. There's always nose, nose, nose, knows, knows.
Starting point is 00:17:20 And to me, that's probably, especially for longevity, more important to sustaining a career than talent. I mean, they say, like, being an actor is about just doing auditions and getting rejected most of the time. All the time. Even though we never, the audience never sees that from you. No. We just see the, well, also, I haven't even mentioned, like,
Starting point is 00:17:40 you're starring an atypical right now. which is fucking awesome. And you've been in over 60 films. You've been on TV. That's a lot of... How did you have the time? Like, why do you think you, as opposed to other actors, are so fucking busy?
Starting point is 00:17:54 Tenacity. Like you're hungry. It's not even hungry. It's just the tenacity. You know, obviously I'm lucky. Like, I feel like I'm skilled. But it's just the tenacity. It's the fucking tenacity.
Starting point is 00:18:08 And it's... You know, you ask about, like, you know, some cycle. therapy shit like you come out you're disruptive it's all about attention wanting attention wanting validation and and but like you know the more shit you do it seems like the more you have to prove yourself it's weird like for me my my career path is like it's like you just have to continue to prove yourself and i get off on that i get off on as much as i hate the rejection and i hate the frustration of it and the nose and the nose like i get off on just keep going like That's just, it's, it's, it's, it's just what I get off on.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Like, it's, it's, it's just, I get off on the, the thrill of victory, the agony, defeat, and I get off on the, the artistic part of it. Like, you know, like, even like, you know, like, it could be anything like, even like a podcast, like, you want to do, for me, I want to do the best episode of your show. Like, I want to do the best interview when I do an interview. I want to do the best, you know, like, like, like, the best shit that I could possibly, like when I'm talking shit into, I want it to be the best fucking, you know what I mean? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:08 So how do you not get burned out? Because that shit's intense. You just got to pace yourself. My walk through Central Park, you know, like you just got to pace yourself. You got to rest. You know, I do meditate, Hannah. Well, it's so funny because during that last speech, I was about to be like, does this motherfucker meditate?
Starting point is 00:19:25 Because he should meditate. Because I'm similar to you. I fucking go. My only issue, like my parents, when I first started to do entertainment, and I knew that I could set my own schedule, they were just like, give yourself fucking breaks. Like, when I play tennis, they would just, tell the coaches you have to tell her when to stop because she won't stop like that's some psycho shit yeah so as i'm growing i'm learning like finding my healthy routines and how i sustain
Starting point is 00:19:49 myself so i'm not burnt out but you have some good routines i feel like in your day i i do meditate you know i do my long 10 to 20 minutes you use an app yeah nice and and and at night you know like I shut the phone off and like, like, I'm not like a fucking lunatic all the time. You know what I mean? Like in my house, like with my wife, like in my, like, I'm not like. So your wife would say you're not a lunatic? She would say I'm a lunatic, but she would definitely say I'm a lunatic, but I'm not a lunatic all the time. Like it spurts.
Starting point is 00:20:22 Does your wife ever get annoyed that you're on your phone? All the time. Screaming into the phone. Like now I tell us, babe, I'm a scream. This is going to be quick, a quick one. I'm going to do something real quick You know, but The energy in the room's going to change for a second
Starting point is 00:20:37 Just a minute And I'll try to face like a window Or going to the other room But you could hear the vibrations And and Like I need a screen room Like I need a rant room Like I need a fucking padded room
Starting point is 00:20:50 Where I can do all my shit And she can't hear anything And I have a situation When my neighbors above Because they're heel strikers They're like fucking running all over the place And she's like Don't you think, like, you know, she's obviously team rap report,
Starting point is 00:21:05 but she's like, what do you think they think when you're screaming and yelling? I go, they can't hear the screaming yelling. Like, I could hear the heels. Because I feel like they, my neighbors, I know that it's a couple. But my psycho analysis is that they're in a loveless relationship. And they're always running away from each other. They don't want to cuddle. They don't want to sit down and watch TV together.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like they're always, because it's not a big apartment. They're pacing. No, it's not pacing. It's not pacing. Oh, they're avoiding. It's like You know Like they're fucking running
Starting point is 00:21:36 It's like you know Like on a big wheel Red Rover Yeah All the time So whatever But I do find my time To chill
Starting point is 00:21:44 And you know When you get to a certain point Where you feel like You've burnt out Or lost your voice Like I've kind of got to you But I blame that on the ice cream You know
Starting point is 00:21:51 You just You gotta go to go to zero And chill it out When's your sign again What are you? A Libre? Leo Leo.
Starting point is 00:21:58 What are you? Pisces. Oh Pisces Okay, so Pisces are known to be very in touch with their emotions. Yes. Would you call yourself a sensitive guy? Yes. Very sensitive.
Starting point is 00:22:11 What do you mean by that? Extremely sensitive. I'm just sensitive. I'm just sensitive. Like, you know, I'm sensitive. I'm sensitive. Like, I take things, you know. Are you sensitive?
Starting point is 00:22:24 I'm sensitive. It's funny because, so my fiancé, one thing he said he's like, he's fearless. Rapaport is fearless Because Des and I have a lot of opinions Right But we are scared to talk about some of the opinions sometimes Because of just the backlash you can get And like I dealt with a lot
Starting point is 00:22:42 You mean publicly? Yeah, I dealt with a lot of backlash After being on a reality TV show And everyone having opinions on like The show and whose side they're on all that bullshit To the point that it was just like You can't talk about it Because anything they do, they'll spin
Starting point is 00:22:54 And but you You like dive into it Like you embrace the chaos But then you also get so much much hate and then you put people on blast but you've kind of decided you could either ignore it all stay away or go head first why go head first it well like for me like the politics like it really got to a different level as far as going at first with the politics yeah and and and you know not to go down that road but the the whole trump and like the last four and half you know almost five years probably like five
Starting point is 00:23:30 years like and I'm not even a politics person like I don't I couldn't tell you who was in Obama's cabinet I couldn't tell you who was in you know George W's cabinet fucking Clinton I knew nothing yeah but I I've become interested in it after Trump
Starting point is 00:23:46 and and that's where it became different from just talking about sports like yo LeBron this to shit where people would have opinions and you're an actor are you ever afraid that you're going to lose listeners or followers by making really like angled points and taking sides i'm not afraid of it i'm aware of it because
Starting point is 00:24:08 i believe i have but at this point i'm i'm too deep you're being authentic to yourself i'm being authentic to myself and i you know i try to be as fair as i possibly can you know when i'm ranting whether it's about trump or an athlete i always make fun of myself in the rant even if it's slightly i'll say something wrong there's something that will make someone smile And I know what I'm doing Like people like think I'm a fucking lunatic But I know what I'm doing So like even if I mispronounce something
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah Most of the time I am doing it on purpose And I say that And people still You know but whatever It is what it is And you know social media You have to have thick skin
Starting point is 00:24:48 New York guys love mispronouncing shit It's just hilarious Right Like my dad and my grandpa I've never pronounced the name right in their lives And they've known these people for years How many takes for your rants Or you just let it go
Starting point is 00:24:59 One You let it go. Do you watch it over before you post? Yes. Now I do. Now I do. Now I do. Just in case.
Starting point is 00:25:05 Now I do just in case. Yes. Now I watch it over one time. And if it's really something... Nothing's better than the first take. No. No, nothing's better than the first take. If it's like I did a rant that got a lot of attention about the abortion, Texas stuff.
Starting point is 00:25:22 Yep. I let my wife watch it. And I let my friends watch it, two friends watch it. Because, you... You know the wording, and I didn't watch it. I was like, yo, check this out. And my wife was like, that's cool. And they were like, that's, that basically they were like approved it.
Starting point is 00:25:38 Because you have to be careful with something like that that the responsibility, even of what I was saying, I didn't want to, I wanted the message to be clear. Well, you're speaking to women. I mean, you're speaking to everyone, but like about women. So it's good to have a woman's perspective. Yeah. It was actually my sister. My sister with the Texas one. My sister put the battery in my back about the.
Starting point is 00:25:59 Texas one. She actually got me hyped up. Because I was thinking about Texas that morning. And then she hit me midday and I was like, you're right, you're right. I got to do something. And then I like I was like two minutes and I said, is this good? And she said, that's good. And then I sent it to my wife
Starting point is 00:26:15 and then I sent it to, but I just wanted to be careful. How do you consume so much content and also work so much? Because you have to know what's going on to rant about this shit. Are you just scrolling a lot? The motherfucking phone, man. Yeah. You know, the phone, you know, As far as like my sports shit
Starting point is 00:26:31 And then the pop culture shit's the phone And then of course my real housewives And my reality shows I watched them in real time Yep I don't DVR them I do DVR them just in case But that's that is a must watch TV
Starting point is 00:26:46 Real Housewives of Potomac Real House of Salt Lake City Realized of Beverly Hills You know Bachelor in Paradise Hell yeah All that shit So, you know, that's, like, must watch TV.
Starting point is 00:27:02 And that's also, like, that's the only TV that, like, me and my watch, like, me and my wife, we watch that shit together. And we applaud the fucking TV. We applaud the TV. Do you feel like it's bonded you and your wife more? 100%. We, we watched that shit. And specifically this year of Beverly Hills, we, we, we, when you're watching it live and you have the commercial breaks, it's like, We watch it.
Starting point is 00:27:30 We don't talk. Sometimes we'll pause it to be like, are you fucking serious? But we watch it. We go to commercial and we're like. Debrief. Did you see the Mets Yankees game last night? They got into a fight? Did they get into a fight?
Starting point is 00:27:44 You have to look at it. And my fiance was like, this is some real house shit happening with. Because they were taunting each other. Oh, I didn't see it. It was really good. That's fucked up that it happened. It's sports. It's sports in a whole different, you know, just platform.
Starting point is 00:27:58 I say it's. 100%. Yeah. And that's where we bonded for the first time. 100% because you're, you understand. The thing about the housewives and the reason why we did bond was because you understand sports. I don't know how much, but I know you understand, you know, tennis. You understand sports.
Starting point is 00:28:16 And to me, I get as excited about the real housewives as I do about my fantasy football team. The same fucking thing. And dudes are like, what the fuck? And I'm like, what the fuck to you? You're missing out. You can go watch fucking Game of Thrones. and all that, goofy shit. Not that, no disrespect the Game of Thrones,
Starting point is 00:28:32 but the Real Housewives, especially like this year, Beverly Hills. Yep. So what's interesting about reality TV, because I feel like you look at your career with like a sports mentality, and I went to reality TV with a sports mentality too.
Starting point is 00:28:44 At first I didn't know the rules. I just kind of, first season, I just kind of floated around. And someone, okay, now they were talking reality TV, someone once told me, Teresa Judice's lawyer, who's my buddy, who you would fucking love it. I know him.
Starting point is 00:28:56 He, you know him? He's fucking out of control. he once said to me he goes so what's your role i said what do you mean he goes it's a group mentality everyone is going to eventually fit into a character are you the villain are you the truth teller are you the hot mess are you the sexy one and i was like i i feel like i encompass a lot he goes it's not going to be like that though i'm like i want to show that women could be sporty and goofy but also sexy but also bossy and he's like i don't know but that sounds like truth teller and i'm like okay i saw you during quarantine and it was like i didn't even watch a whole episode, but I saw you in quarantine on chat room, and I was like,
Starting point is 00:29:32 fuck, I wish I was doing this. Like, you were talking to Giselle, and I was like, but I liked the way you broke shit down, and I was, and I took note. I was like, I didn't know you from, from, from a hole in the wall. I was just like, I like, you just, I was like, I was like her. I appreciate that a lot, because part of me was so happy that Bravo saw me in a different light. They were like, this girl, because I was doing a ton of pods. I was doing my stand up and they were like let let's let this girl be in a room with housewives and let her hang and like portion jazelle taught me so much about just like being queens like they are just larger than life hardworking strategic and together we all had a role we played and we loved it
Starting point is 00:30:12 the season finished airing in june and we did 42 episodes of chat room like i'm so proud of chat room it was a little show that could it got great ratings but because of like some reality tv shit That's fucked up And now I have to either decide Do I move to Montana And start a cat sanctuary Or do I lower my head And fucking grind
Starting point is 00:30:34 And fucking come back Harder than ever, you know? You got to. And I told my... You're gonna be in fucking Montana with cats? I like cats! Would you guys consider anything Less than a championship
Starting point is 00:30:46 To be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure Especially because we all grow every day obviously the goal is a championship there's no doubt in that and that's the goal we want to win a championship I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast in case you missed it with
Starting point is 00:31:03 Christina Williams. The WMBA playoffs are here and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind the scenes moments you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the
Starting point is 00:31:19 new challenge that we have. For all the biggest stories in women's basketball plus, exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars. So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way. And we're hoping to, you know, make it run. So listen to, in case you missed it with Christina Williams and IHeart women sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on IHartRadio app, Apple Podcast,
Starting point is 00:31:43 or wherever you get your podcast. Would you guys consider anything less than a championship to be a failure from this year? I wouldn't say anything as a failure, especially because. we all grow every day. Obviously, the goal is a championship. There's no doubt in that, and that's the goal. We want to win a championship. I'm Christina Williams, host of the podcast, in case you missed it with Christina Williams.
Starting point is 00:32:06 The WMBA playoffs are here, and I've got the inside scoop on everything from key matchups and standout players to the behind-the-scenes moments you won't find anywhere else. It's really, really hard to be the champions, but we have to remember how it feels and embrace the new challenge that we have. For all the biggest stories in women's basketball plus exclusive interviews with the game's brightest stars. So to be here, I think it's one that we definitely don't take for granted. But we also know, you know, that's just one stop along the way. And we're hoping to, you know, make it run.
Starting point is 00:32:36 So listen to, in case you missed it with Christina Williams and IHeart Women's Sports Production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. Do you like cats? I have five minutes of stand up about cats. Wait, wait, wait. Okay, how many cats do you have? Okay, I have one, my parents have four, but they're all technically mine. I have five cats.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Oh, fuck. Aren't you too young to be a cat lady? Like, isn't it like an age limit for that? Like, I'm trying to make cat ladies cool. It's like my thing. I don't fuck with cats. Not that I don't fuck with cats. Do you see that documentary, don't fuck with cats?
Starting point is 00:33:15 Yeah. That's a fucking doc. Yo. Is this the right, am I looking in the right candidate? Look at this one. Look at this one. Middle one, yo, if you want to watch a really, if you want to watch a really good murder doc and chill on Netflix, don't fuck with cats is highly underrated and highly underappreciated.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Yeah, it's incredible. I watch all that shit. I watch every documentary. But Michael, all cats want is some consent. Dogs are fucking. Consent to what? To petting them. They just don't, you probably come up with your big ass voice.
Starting point is 00:33:48 I don't fuck with them. The cat runs away. Did you ever have your own cat? I never had my own cat. I'm a dog person. My mom has cats. My brother's allergic to those fucking cats. My wife is deathly allergic to those fucking cats.
Starting point is 00:34:02 I had a cat try to bite me once in the 90s. I don't fuck with cats. Yo, I just don't fuck with cats. Like, my mom's cats are cute. They're chill. I deal with them. I'm a dog person. When I see dogs on the street, I pet them.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Puppies. I pet them babies. I'm a dog, puppy, and babies. person. That's, I've always been that way. And, and I didn't know that you had five cats. Otherwise, I don't know. I'm not saying I wouldn't have showed up. I'm just saying, I've learned a lot since I've gotten. Look, cats are very complex creatures and, you know, people think I'm an asshole. Who wants complex pets? I don't want complexity. Because when my cat, who literally hates everyone only loves me, that's the next level love. That's the kind of love I want.
Starting point is 00:34:50 And when my cat, when I pet her and she starts to vibrate, what's more adorable than that? I get it. But also, I do have, I did rescue a senior pit bull, which was off brand for me, but I did it to shut people up like you to show I'm not a complete crazy person. Do you still have this? Yes, yes. How does it get along with your cat? They don't fuck with each other. Butter does not like Romeo.
Starting point is 00:35:12 So they're in separate houses right now. We're co-parenting. I have a question. Because you brought this up to me the other day and I was like, so you talk about your, fiance and your relationship? I started to in stand-up. Do you talk about it? Have you started to on here? Yeah, and my relationship's already been
Starting point is 00:35:29 torn apart on reality TV too. Fuck those people, man. They called him old. And then when he visited... How was he? He's 45. And then when he visited, they said that he didn't hang out with everyone enough. And I was like, he just came to be with me. He's not here to be on TV. Did you cry? No, I said I'm done with you people.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And I walked away. Do you think they were doing it consciously to bait you like like really see i wouldn't do well in that i i don't i don't shun any reality tv show i i i am looking to be on any and all i'm at that point this is my question for you i love it all this is my question for you i love it fucking all your wife gets an email yeah do you want to be on the next rehearsal in new york my wife she she not crazy enough for that like she she don't have the the disposition of it she's too like she didn't have she didn't have though let's just say she did though if you're asking the question at this yeah yes if she was fucking if she had the the the person
Starting point is 00:36:30 go I just wanted yeah I'm there all the time they're like they're like hey the husbands weren't invited and you go I got shit to say jes I have shit going on Luann look me in the eye Dorinda listen to me I didn't like the way you you I didn't like how things went down at the manor last time. Your life is hanging out the husband. I would be fucking so fucking jealous and I do shit. But if my wife was on like the real house, I would be
Starting point is 00:36:57 like, what happened today? What happened when you're filming? What is Ramonis? What did Ramonis? I would be the guy that they'd be like, yo, you can't, they'd be like, you know, you can't. Well, P.K.'s apparently He's been having a great season. Now he's the voice of reason this season on B.H. P.K. is a side, side, side this year. The, the
Starting point is 00:37:17 girls, the women, the housewives of Beverly Hills have been so good and there's so much passive aggressiveness and there's so much tension between all of them and the Kathy Hilton element and the Erica Jane drama is the single most compelling storyline in all of How's Wives history. The single most compelling storyline in all Housewives history. And I know this is a hot button topic for you guys. But she, I don't know what people expect her to say. She's in a court case. I'm in a little shit court case.
Starting point is 00:37:57 I can't talk about it. Hers is a severely public thing with extremely sensitive, you know, a sensitive topic. And it's divorce and it's fraud and all this kinds of stuff. What do they want her to do, spell out the entire details of what she may know or what she has it or what she doesn't know? She's taking it on the fucking chin Like Rocky Balbo in Rocky One 15 fucking rounds She's cried with mascara coming down
Starting point is 00:38:24 Her fucking face She said one of the greatest lines In Housewives history She said, you don't want my fucking life Look at me With tears in her eyes I don't know what more people want From Erica Jane
Starting point is 00:38:35 They go well She might have known She could know The judge in the court We'll figure that out Andy Cohen's not going to figure it out And Kathy Hilton's not going to figure it out And Kathy Hilton's not going to figure it out
Starting point is 00:38:46 And fucking Garcel Beauvoir is not going to figure it out So do you think Sutton is like doing the right thing though By pushing and being like did you know did you know for good TV I do Like do you respect that role she's playing See that's where you see the Because that's how the story moves Someone needs to ask
Starting point is 00:39:05 But then people will get mad and be like Why are you bathing her and I'm like they don't have a show I know see that I'm the reason why I'm glad that I don't see that and like you understand it because you've participated in it is because I am still such a fan. Yeah. So when the bad guy, in my opinion, Sutton's been the bad guy. But people are loving Sutton. I know because it's very divided.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And I think she's been great. And also, you know, I love when a housewife, because you could come on there, you're all primped and proper and she's got her couture. I didn't even know what the fuck couture meant for two seasons. And she's got a lot of stuff. Now you almost went to the men gal with your couture, but unfortunately they lost your invite. Exactly. But when the layers get peeled back
Starting point is 00:39:49 and the Sutton's storyline, aside from Erica Jane, when the other character Crystal, you know, provoked Sutton to go wacky, that's when you're like, you've arrived. That's reality v gold. But anyway, I have three deeper questions for you because you got me distracted,
Starting point is 00:40:07 but I appreciate that. Okay. what do you insecure about what am I insecure about um fuck there's a list of things for some reason just because I know what we're being recorded my voice
Starting point is 00:40:21 I hate I hate the sound of my voice what about it I it's I hate fuck there's a few I just I just don't like it but I feel like your voice
Starting point is 00:40:35 is such a huge you do like voice over people pay you hundreds of thousands of dollars for your voice yeah um when i'm listening to myself on a podcast or when i'm listening to stand up like when you're just i'm like disgusted i also don't like my wrists i don't like my wrists why i don't know why i like most of the time when i'm filming i i don't like my wrist like i don't like exposed wrist it's weird i don't know why do you try putting like a nice watch or like a bracelet or something well Maybe I could go back to a watch
Starting point is 00:41:09 because I used to wear a watch but when I had my first kid because I would hold them all the time the watch would get stuck on the diaper. Yeah. But maybe now I could go back to a watch. Yeah, so. And you got some tattoos on that's cool.
Starting point is 00:41:20 It's dog shit. It's dog shit. It's my kid's names, but it's such a fucking pain in the ass when you're working as an actor because they've got to put the makeup on it and then it gets on the wardrobe and it's stupid.
Starting point is 00:41:32 Yeah, you should have talked to Pete Davidson. I don't know why people get their kids' names as if you're going to forget them. like what is the point of this you're so fucked up did your kids like it at least they could give a fuck about the names
Starting point is 00:41:46 my father doesn't have you think my like do you think your father would get Hannah no it's some dumb new you're so fucking dumb and then I got monkeys my my other son's name is on the back of my and I got monkey for him
Starting point is 00:42:02 and I was like oh I got to get a monkey for him they're two and four at the time like they're gonna yeah so yeah Wrists and voice. Okay. Amongst other things. I could go over a list of things, but... Do you suffer from anxiety or depression or both?
Starting point is 00:42:16 No. One thing I don't have. None of them? Neither. Oh, wow. I don't have anxiety. I don't have depression. I'm fortunate.
Starting point is 00:42:27 Wow. It's just not my thing. I respect and I understand people that do have it. Yes. It's just not my thing. Are you in therapy? Not currently. why not i don't know i i was in it you know for a few years straight and it was very beneficial
Starting point is 00:42:42 and i'm sure that a therapist would love to uh uh examine me i think i think they would probably do it pro bono because it would just be satisfying to the art of therapy and i know it is an art and a science um but it's just i i just i just not interested in it right now your raw dogging life i appreciate raw dogging without a bag Yes, raw dog in life Okay We just had to check out Those a couple of those questions
Starting point is 00:43:12 Before we get to the final game It's about to get a little darker right now It's about to get hot in here You're doing great though But we did get to reality TV hell And we didn't anticipate that Time to play The Seven Deadly Sins
Starting point is 00:43:24 Okay Seven Deadly Sins What are you greedy about? food what kind of food all and every but sushi how did you lose weight recently
Starting point is 00:43:42 off the coffee really off the coffee off the drinks and a version of intermittent fasting I don't eat before I eat between 12 and 630
Starting point is 00:43:55 1130 is 637 the best thing ever but the coffee being off the coffee because I was never a coffee person also because I was going to be in the NBA. And then what I was doing, a TV show called Boston Public with Rashida Jones, she was drinking an ice vanilla latte. And I was like, what is that? It looks so good. And she was like, ice vanilla latte. Ice vanilla soy latte. And then I became addicted to those. And then they're
Starting point is 00:44:22 like ice cream. They're like ice cream. And then during the pandemic, I got into like coffee. And then I got into black coffee. And I don't, I love the feeling of Trenti Starbucks. The big cup so during the pandemic you know i got on some two a day coffee shit oh shit and then eventually and i got all these health issues whatever da da da and then i stopped the coffee and that was and it's not like i lost that much weight it's just but you look healthy i look healthier but it's not like you know people like you lost a lot i'm like it's like probably like 10 pounds yeah yeah um and and my walks my fucking power walks through central park my raw my walk slash runs it's more Oh, so you like almost dislocate the hips
Starting point is 00:45:05 And you go fast like that My move and God forbid Anybody ever sees me doing it But I think I've invented it How has no one filmed you? I know it's gonna happen And it'll be humiliating But I'm prepared for it
Starting point is 00:45:17 But my walking move that I think I invented Is because my wife fucks Tracy Anderson You know the workout So when I'm walking I go like this Oh my God You're adorable He's putting his hands up and down
Starting point is 00:45:30 Do you ever hold a weight? Not when I go to Central Park it's too it's it's it's I need to be on that I need to have that fucking phone yeah yeah and but I've done that I've done that like in LA like when you could go you know with with your car okay wow you're basically a fitness influencer who for real for real I'm glad you acknowledge that no because whatever you're doing is working who are you well yeah I'm sick of talking to like naturally hot people like hot 22 year olds giving me their like routines I'm like yeah you like shit normal
Starting point is 00:46:03 and like you don't get hung over of course your body looks like that um who are you envious of fuck who am i envious of oh man i'm envious of people you mean a specific person who am i you could say a type of person too or you can call someone out i mean i'm envious of as an actor i would say my the person i'm most probably right now who i'm just you know it's not like a really your answer but Denzel Washington as an actor I'm envious of but in regards to people it's not I'm I would like to be able to be more strategic with my emotions like when you say like with the reality shows people are playing chess I would fail miserably because I take the bait I took the producer literally said you took the bait every time and I was like but at least I was being
Starting point is 00:46:57 real I take the bait my whole life yeah I take that fucking bait that that's that's probably And I've gotten better at it. Yeah. But that's, that's, anybody that's a little bit more. See, but then you're contrived, but I don't think you're not being real. I just think, like, it's, as I've gotten older, things slow down. You pick your battles. And, you know how they say, like, I'm in sports, like the game slowed down for him after his third season?
Starting point is 00:47:23 Well, like, the better you're, like, tennis, the ball comes slowly when you're playing well. The court looks huge and the ball's slow when you're seeing the ball well and you're playing in your game. I'm envious of people that see life in not as an emotional way as I do. So I'd like the game to slow down. I've been playing the game 51 fucking years. I would like the game of life to finally slow down. What are you gluttonous about? So this is different than greedy where it's like, what do you overindulge in?
Starting point is 00:47:55 Sneakers. And I wasn't. I was out of the sneaker game, but the last two years, Jordans. Jordans, Jordan's, I would say I'm gluttonous about that. What do you love so much about them? I like the way they feel and when I'm performing in them
Starting point is 00:48:13 they're like, it's like it's a combination of feeling like a basketball player and also like it's like almost like You get a Nike sponsorship for your tour. Yeah, right. They'd be like, New Balance. I could get the Larry gave the new balance. The daddy shoes. Yeah, I should be playing playing.
Starting point is 00:48:31 in that but I like the way they feel and I feel like you know if you if you feel good you know I feel like when I'm performing I like to like feel good on my feet and smell good although no one could smell me
Starting point is 00:48:44 but I like to smell good when I'm on stage I don't know why I smell terrible on stage I'm a sweater like I'll feel the sweat going down my back and people will come take photos after and I'm like they're going to be on Reddit like Hannah burner fucking smells and you got like fucking sweat pit
Starting point is 00:48:57 oh I'm always sweating fun fact about me also real quick how have your roles changed over time like did you ever feel typecasted in a place or do you now feel like in a whole different type of personality i feel like i'm typecast as a new yorker and uh no i um i you know i i i feel like i in far as roles you know i i've gotten opportunity to do a bunch of them you know um you know it's it's it's it's you know if i looked at the like if i looked at them It's probably more like sweeter, softer, more quiet, spoken person than, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:37 blah, blah, blah, that. But you could play both. And I've gotten an opportunity, but a lot of times people will, you know, people, casting, it's stupid, it's stupid, you know, but I'm like people. You know, my answer is it's stupid. It's some dumb shit. But, you know, like, yeah, I've played like bad guys. and shit talkers and you know the heavy and i play you know yeah and then i play like you know
Starting point is 00:50:05 like i have a joke like when it's cops you know like it's a it's a it's a movie with so-and-so it's a cop i go is it a good cop or a bad cop yeah because it did my agent will be like well it's just i'm like is it is he a screamer or is he a crier like just that's it i don't even know the fucking minutia how often do you say no probably not as much as i say yes you know what i I mean, like, I like, you know, I mean, I like working and, you know, I, I like to, you know, I like to do shit. And I trust myself. Yeah. Okay, this is probably the hardest question you're going to get because there's so many answers to it.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Fuck, man. All right. When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath or anger that I have? A week ago, my wife tried, she wouldn't ever do it, but she chased me around with a frying pan. now it's partially you know cartoon shit you get a hit with a frying pan it's yeah it's partially schick but she was really
Starting point is 00:51:11 fucking pissed off with me in the moment and she was just like get the fuck out just get the fuck away you know and I and like I was like you know like she had the frying pan up so that that her wrath is is the only one that that really like you know like where I really deliberately where you know it gets me you know what I mean do you think you guys are good at fighting because I heard that's important to successful marriages
Starting point is 00:51:40 I think we are I think I think you know the most important thing that I've learned um through being married once in a very dysfunctional relationship is and even like with friends or even in business relationships like I think you know it's it's good to keep things way above the belt not even like it's it's good to like but in a loving relationship you know it's fucking good advice it's not easy to come back from that's fucking good advice because I always felt like I don't like a guy to ever curse at me because once you start throwing the bitch around you start throwing fuck you around yeah like that stuff it's like you lose the innocence of it yeah and even though it's not technically that bad it's like then the fights can get worse and worse yeah i agree and and and and and i also
Starting point is 00:52:30 i'm not perfect trust i mean i don't need to explain i'm not perfect but he just looked at the producers like you know but i think it's also important to not use things against them yes you know so if if i know you're vulnerable about something that you've told me three weeks not to sort of keep it in i used to do this i used to be fucked up with this you know to use this and this is why you're always that And this is why you and your sister don't get along. You know, and like, it's so easy to do that. It ain't good. And I'm in a relationship with a comic who will fight because we'll throw around jokes.
Starting point is 00:53:06 And every now and then, you know that joke hurt. And I'll be like, that hurt. And he'll be like, it's a joke. And I'm like, yeah, I know what a joke is. Right. So we have to make sure that we're. Banttering. You know, you could banter. You could banter with your friend.
Starting point is 00:53:19 You could banter with your girlfriend. You could banter with your guy for you. But when you banter. Like, my wife doesn't like, you know, like, because, you know, also my tone is like, yeah, yeah, you know, and even though she knows me inside out, like the tone, you know, bantering is something, you got to be careful. Yeah, my fiance speaks just like you. He's aggressive queen's guy.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Right. So everything he says sounds like he's in a fight with you. Right, right. So you got to be careful. That's my piece of advice. That's really good. Yeah. When was the last time you were a sloth?
Starting point is 00:53:48 So, like, lazy, stayed and better. Yesterday, the other day watching fantasy football, the first day of the NFL, two bags of potato chips and then Real Housewives of Potomac with not a little bowl, the big like the fucking salad mixing bowl of vegetarian vegan ice cream, three fucking pints like an animal. Was it good the flavor? Yes, but I think something about the lactose and the something fucked my voice up. So yes, it was great, but I paid the price. Okay, we have two more. When was the last time you let your pride or your ego get in the way of something? I don't know, when I was parking my car with the fucking garage guy.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Do you try to keep your ego in check? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I try to keep my ego in check. But, but I mean, I mean, I think, you know, like there's, There's obvious more like blaring, glaring examples. But I think, shit, it could be walking down the street and, you know, not moving when you see a guy who won't move. Like, shit, like stupid shit like that.
Starting point is 00:54:59 But I'm away from that kind of behavior now. But it definitely was in the last. Is that part of your rebrandification? Yes. All that shit is part of rebrandification. And get too tired for that. Like, you know, like, you got to compartment. Like, if you know, you're like, okay, well,
Starting point is 00:55:17 if I spend too much energy, than that, I can't ran about machine gun Kelly. You know, so that, like, so if, if, if, if, if, if, if, if this to make takes too much time out of this, I can't, you know, you got to, like, it's like, um, like a big, uh, a multiplication, uh, thing. You're like,
Starting point is 00:55:32 okay, well, I got to move this here. This wants to add up to there. I do think that you've definitely like learned and gotten wiser throughout the years in becoming like your prime time. Yes. I've gotten better. I, I, I've taken hits. I've figured things out. Uh, uh, uh, and I've, I've gotten better.
Starting point is 00:55:49 More strategic. Back to that word. Yes. Final question is, when was the last time you lusted over someone? So obviously besides your wife, do you have like a celeb crush
Starting point is 00:55:59 or like a favorite real housewife? Brianna. Oh. When I look at the celebrities now, Rihanna is the only one and it's out in the open. My wife knows. I met Rihanna one time.
Starting point is 00:56:14 Did you guys hit it all? I'm going to tell you very briefly. And this is a true story. but Rihanna's like when I look at like all like the actors and Jennifer Lawrence love Jennifer Lawrence she loves comedy love Jennifer Lawrence because she's beautiful and she's super duper talented like to me she's the female Leonardo DiCaprio in terms of the star yeah like her sustainability will be like Leonardo because like she's great actress she could do drama she could do comedy she's likable there's still a mystique
Starting point is 00:56:46 about her and she's um good looking so i i look at it seems like she has a good head about her and and she's off instagram which honestly if i had that much money i would too a hundred percent i don't think i'd ever be off yeah you i i love it too much but she let me tell you something all of them yeah whether they're off with their name all of them you're right she's on she's on she's on all of them you're right she has a finsta as they call it all wait what happened with you and re-ray okay he just got a big grin on his face i was at the 2015 NBA All-Star game in brooklyn i was sitting court side because you know and uh riana was down at the other end of the court everybody could see everybody noticed her as she was leaving um i got up because like
Starting point is 00:57:39 we saw her like coming we're like oh shit riana's coming and and oh you know what i told my my friend my friend Anthony Causey the late great Anthony Cozy photographer I had said
Starting point is 00:57:51 yo earlier because we were talking I said yo if Rihanna comes near me take a picture take a fucking picture just of her
Starting point is 00:57:58 with the back of her head yeah like I'd be like this like photo bombing she walked by so she was walking and I was like yo take a picture take a picture
Starting point is 00:58:06 and I stood up and as she was coming like I was like oh shit now I've been around everybody yeah as she was coming She was walking, I stood up because I wanted to just be in the picture, like, you know, as she was coming, she looked me in the face and as she got in front of me, she said, I know who you are.
Starting point is 00:58:23 And I was literally like, and there's a picture of her walking past me looking ridiculous with me, my mouth is literally like, like my shit was spun because I was so surprised that she said. Yeah, she not only noticed you and talked to you, but was like, like your work. And there's, he got the photo where my mouth was like, Did you get anything out? That's all I needed. That's, that's, that's all I needed. I wasn't even, and she has her beige and ex, like, I know who you are. She didn't even, yeah, and she smelled good.
Starting point is 00:59:04 And she did, she had the accent. You were like, I was busy sniffing her. The whole place changed. And, and, and, and I looked into her. And that was it. And I haven't seen her since. Wow. But it made me think.
Starting point is 00:59:16 It made me think that I might have a shot with it. I mean, she also does, she loves reality TV. She, like, follows a bunch of people. She, for all we know, she watches Summer House. For all we know, we're connected. We're pretty close to Rihanna, if you think about it. No disrespect to ASAP Rocky. I know that's a girl.
Starting point is 00:59:35 I feel like they're going to get married, great couple. But in terms of celebrity crush, that's the only one I have left. It's funny because Derek Jeter was my celebrity crush growing up. Derek fucking Jeter, huh? Okay. You wear Yankees hats all the time. What are you, Mets fan? No, I'm not really a baseball.
Starting point is 00:59:50 It's all the aesthetic of the Yankee. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I don't like the blue and orange. Otherwise, I wear the Mets at. I'm not a baseball person. I grew up, half was Mets, half was Yankees. But Derek Jeter did it for me. And I saw him after when, okay, he married someone named Hannah,
Starting point is 01:00:04 who's 15 years younger, happens to be my age. And I saw him at some event. I was going, I was taking pictures of his back. I was like Derek Jeter won't stop trying to talk to me I was like going nuts and then at the end he kind of stands next to me and I was just like so what are you up to? And he's like you know I've been golfing a lot and like
Starting point is 01:00:21 fun fact about me I'm a retired old man like I love golf I golf all the time and I start talking about golf next I know I'm like am I dating to him like we're in a relationship I talked to him for like five minutes like we're living together right now like we're just having talking about our pastime it's just like we're talking about the day exactly like it wasn't he you felt like he felt like he felt like he was away from the
Starting point is 01:00:42 buzz and he just got to kind of talk to someone because with you that's where he's able to escape from the buzz in that five minutes that's where he felt comfortable and at the end I was like by the way you know my grandma's a big fan little does he know like I had quotes of his like up in my like you're the stalker you try to put it off on your grandmother
Starting point is 01:00:58 I was like my grandma would love a pick and he's like yeah of course of course I did also Google it I am his type he loves brunettes I'm not saying I am Minka Kelly but people do think on the street that I'm Mika Kelly a lot it crosses their mind when you walk down the street. I'm like, it could have been.
Starting point is 01:01:13 It could have been. But I love that for us. To wrap this up, because I could talk to you for ages, and I know you only have a couple years left. I want to know for the little devils who are listening, what advice do you have for them on how to cope with your hell? When you're going through it, when it's dark. You got to be your biggest fan, your biggest cheerleader.
Starting point is 01:01:35 It sounds like a cliche, but you have to always be your biggest fan and your biggest cheerleader. And sometimes you got to stop listening to the voices in your head and just listen to your gut and remind yourself of what that gut instinct was in the first place. If you think somebody was a piece of shit to begin with, they were a piece of shit to begin with. If you know you fucked up at that job interview, you fucked up at that job interview. Trust your gut instinct and that'll take you out of the hell. when you have those negative voices that are telling you you're not good enough you can't do this
Starting point is 01:02:13 I'm having them right now no go ahead how do you how do you conquer them just like fucking you gotta you gotta you have to it's it sounds like some seventh grade gym class shit but you you have to continue to believe in yourself like that's it's the reason why it's a cliche because it's true you have to like you know continue to believe in yourself You have to And you can't dip your toes and shit You either have to be all in with yourself That doesn't mean you can't
Starting point is 01:02:46 You know be a good critic for yourself But you have to be you have to continue To like trust yourself and trust your instinct You can't give up on yourself You really can't Because no one else is going to step in No one else gives a fuck So Michael
Starting point is 01:02:59 This was fucking epic You crushed hell You survived You were weirdly comfortable in hell Where can people watch you live follow you, listen to you, give me the goods. All at Michael Rappaport and I'm on tour and all that's at Michael Rappaport Comedy.com and I'm in Miami this week and Nashville next week and, you know, coming to disrupt a city near you.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Hell yeah. Thank you guys for listening in hell today and we'll talk to you later. Bye. Bye. My housewife voice. Bye. Hi. Hey, guys.
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