Berner Phone - Mike Vecchione: Ex Friends & New Lovers
Episode Date: May 29, 2019Mike is Hannah’s ex boyfriend’s best friend and this is the first time they have spoken since the breakup. He also happens to be a hysterical comedian so he was the perfect podcast guest. The two ...discuss the complexities of a breakup, how he succeeded in getting out of the friend zone, having the same career as your best friend or significant other and not getting jealous of their success, how to focus on the positives of the internet and stay away from the negatives, how hard you should actually try at things, how many times he contemplated quitting comedy, the weird in-between phase no one talks about in their careers, kids who are coddled, his honest opinion of Hannah being on reality tv, disassociated sex, people who are bad at handling success, and how everything is negotiable. Follow Hannah Berner on Instagram & Twitter: @beingbernz Follow Mike Vecchione on Instagram & Twitter: @comicmikev --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
Transcript
Discussion (0)
Did you ever contemplate quitting comedy?
Suicide.
Oh.
Quitting comedy.
Welcome to Burning in hell.
I'm your host Hannah-Berner and welcome to the dark, dark depths of hell.
Today, I'm with a very special guest, Mike Vecione.
Yes, he is.
Italian, in case you were wondering, I've known him for a long time-ish. He's my sweet, sweet friend.
Yes. Thank you for him. I'm not done with your intro. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I'm looking at your bio.
Let's start with... Can I talk now? No. He's appeared on NBC's Last Comic Standing. He won
like a shit ton of awards with that. He's been on inside Amy Schumer. Conan. He's always on the
Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon. He's probably going to be on again, so look out for that.
Montreal is just for laughs. He's a pretty funny guy. Also, what makes our relationship complex,
is that his best friend slash roommate, whatever, I dated, and we got very close.
Yes, we got very close.
But then one day, the relationship ended, and then I never saw you again.
That's the way it usually goes here in New York.
I don't know where you're listening from, but that's the way it goes.
So the only way I could see you and it not be weird is through business.
through business and we're two businessmen you know that's right we're very business oriented um are we
i think so i think we're uh competitive we are we're competitive but you more than me i think because
you were at a higher level of competition than when i competed i was uh i was one of the guys you would
just uh drill with to get i would get people like you better you know i mean that the a listers well those
people are important and thank you for coming in why are you being so nice to me call me an a lister
immediately are you like warming me up no your tennis your tennis pedigree speaks for itself
it's unreal and mike is a was a former wrestler former wrestler and i think wrestling and tennis are
very similar because you're alone out there individual sports yeah you have to have a certain
a lot of mental toughness for both and i also think that but then again you millennials wouldn't
get that you're probably on snapchat right now turning yourself into a bunny michael
when i first started this podcast you were fucking around in your twitter so don't come at me about
Snapchat. Well, no, I have to market myself. I have to get these followers now. It's a new world.
Now you're on my podcast, so don't fuck it up and maybe someone will follow you. All right.
Stand-up comedians. It's similar to wrestling or tennis as then you're out there alone.
Right. You're out there alone. And it's nobody's fault but yours. You have to figure it out.
It's true. You can't walk off there and be like, oh, well, some people try to blame the audience.
I blame them. Yes, but deep down. Well, deep down, you're like, how can I flip this? You know what I mean?
They're terrible. They are what they are. They're the, they're what they are. So now I have
to change what I'm doing.
So a recent episode I interviewed a big time DJ and I was asking him about performing anxiety
and stuff and he said, if you try to get everyone to like you in the space, it's going to
be very difficult.
But if you try to win over the people in the front, you'll see that their energy then becomes
contagious.
But I don't know if that's the same with comedy.
Right.
Well, it's not because those guys have ecstasy helping them from what I read.
You kids are out there eating cat tranquilizers.
I don't even know what's going on in the clubs anymore.
tired cats is that what you guys want to be now is that fun i love a tired cat it's pretty much my day to day
i don't even know what's going that's high now i'm getting old i don't even know what's happening with the
kids i remember when i went on my first date with my ex the roommate we um i had he spoke so
mr x he spoke so highly of you and if you want to get in with the guy you gotta win over his
roommate oh was that it was a strategy it wasn't genuine i i'm an athlete i'm a competitor i see the world
is a game and I'm like who's the next guy
got to take down so you come walking
in all innocent and
that's why I went on a boat for your birthday
not because you really wanted me to
was that the weirdest experience
no it was something else I wasn't going to go though
I was like all right well you know I understand
he's got to go or he's going to go
and it's going to be fun for you and your friends
but it's like but you really made this heartfelt
speech like hey you're one of my friends
and I think that we're going to be friends for a long
time and I would like you to come
And I'm like, you know what?
No, I can't deny that.
Yes, I will come.
And then we never talked again until right now.
Do you feel like...
Betrayed?
Do you feel betrayed by me?
Yes.
I had a hard time getting up here, too.
I didn't know that we were going to be doing this in the World Trade.
I thought we were doing it at your summer home.
Anyone?
Are you watching Summerhouse?
I don't know.
Can we talk about this in the hot tub?
Maybe you'll learn about some millennial stuff.
and become educated on the current culture.
I know when you invite people out to dinner,
you should invite everybody out to dinner
and not let some people cook at home
because then it's not very fun for them.
Okay, so you just watched the first episode.
Listen, I know about summer home, okay?
People hooking up with other people.
Fuck boys.
You know, I don't know.
I don't know how I feel about it.
Would you ever do reality TV?
I don't know.
I mean, I did a reality stand-up show.
Last Comic Standing was so good.
It was like before comedy was like fun and cool.
on Netflix.
Right.
And you got semis twice, didn't you?
Yeah, semi.
I have a semi right now.
Ew, Michael.
Sorry.
Anyway, speaking of sex, when I was friends with you before our breakup, because I broke
up with you, too.
Honestly, I never got to have to even see you.
Yeah.
Would you have liked a nice, like, text, or would that be weird?
No, I wouldn't have been weird either way.
Nah, I wouldn't have been weird.
It would have been fine.
It was fine that it didn't happen, though.
Because I understand the nature of it.
It's about, like, it's not like.
I'm very, very close with him.
Yeah.
We're very close, and I love him like a brother.
Your brothers, I was about to say.
Yeah, I love him like a brother.
So it's, I understand the complexities of it on both ends.
And I still say it to this day, most mature breakup I've ever seen in my life.
Really, on both of your parts.
Really?
Yes.
Very, very mature.
Very, very, very clean, very, very, like no, but no anger, no kind of like, maybe there was
underneath it all, but like on the surface it seemed like it was handled in a very, very mature.
I was almost jealous of how mature it went.
You know what I mean?
There actually was zero anger involved
because when you care about someone,
yeah, there's no anger.
There was frustration, I think.
But I just wanted to win you over
to win him over, but then somehow...
I didn't know I was a pawn in your game.
But somewhere I started to...
You know how you're like,
fuck, I'm stuck with the room right on the couch
while he's like taking a poop?
Well, I like enjoyed my time with you
and I really got a friend
and I really wanted you to come to my birthday that time.
because I wanted to surround myself
with people who are important to me.
But it did suck that
we broke up as well.
But when you were with,
when I was dating him,
you were single.
Yes.
You were actually,
if I remember right,
in kind of a dark time.
Because I went through a breakup
and it was every,
I tell you what,
I've been in a number of relationships.
Every one of them is hard
to break up from,
even whether I broke up with them
or they broke up with me.
It's hard on me because I'm emotional.
and I give.
Which is healthy.
Well, no, I give.
Like, you know, I'm not like faking it.
Like, I'm really in it.
If I'm going to spend the time, I'm very much in it.
So when it ends, I'm destroyed a little bit.
Your very husband material.
And you were kind of the third wheel who was single.
And I was like, I want Michael.
I don't know if I was a third wheel, but I was there.
I mean, when we're watching, I mean, I paid rent.
We're watching Game of Thrones.
You're kind of like on the outskirts.
Yeah.
I'm kind of endorn emotionally.
That's good.
That was a good reference.
It's a good one.
It's pretty solid.
Did you think we were going to make it?
I thought I thought I would have to start looking for a place to live soon because I'm like
I don't know first of all I didn't know I was being used as a pawn if he genuinely liked me
so I'm a little hurt by that right now but um I thought oh this is she's great she's a great
person he's fucking great I love him so this there's no way this is not going to go so I just
I was like dude just give me I told him I'm like just give me some time
to find a place to live, you know.
Yeah.
So.
Well, now, I have a studio apartment in Queens now.
Oh, really?
I'm in Hunter's Point.
You left your old place, huh?
Left my old place in Midtown, Manhattan.
Are you still in Astoria under the...
Under the train?
Under the train.
We're still the same now.
So we would watch TV and have to turn the volume up to hear something, but there's
something beautiful and raw about that to make you, you know, have a little chip on your shoulder
when you're on stage.
Yeah, no.
I mean, we live, you know, the way that we live.
we live like in a barracks we train like it's a dojo we live like it's an abarics and we both of us are
like working class guys so like the money if it comes and it's going good you know it's good but we're
not i'm not a material guy so you know it just is what it is whether i have a lot of money obviously
i'll i'll better my living situation you know in terms of like material things incrementally as i need
them but I'm not a flashy I'm not a jewelry guy like I'd like nicer clothes obviously I feel like if you
wore a gold bracelet people would definitely think you're in the mafia yeah well I don't know there's
not that many people in the mafia anymore most of those people are in jail maybe it means you could
like be a leader now like you can take over yeah well I'm from the Judeo-Christian kind of things like
you should not murder people but nice thought Hannah I don't know just throwing out recommendations
So you were a single.
I'm learning a lot about you in this podcast.
Were you really doing that?
Were you really like trying to get to my good graces so that you could flip me?
I love how we can't move on from this.
I can't move on.
No, it meant that I wanted you to like me.
Regardless if I liked you, I knew I needed to get you to like me.
I didn't know you were that premeditated.
I just thought you were a good person.
No.
You're not a good person?
I'm very premeditated.
No, I think I'm premeditated as a good person.
murder sometimes
you'll kill
you'll kill to get what you want
exactly I have a killer instinct
that's what my coach has said about me
so watch you're back
wow um
you were single and desperate at the time
yeah I don't know about desperate
you're putting words in my mouth right now
I wasn't desperate
there was some insecurity there
because I thought the relationship
was kind of gonna go
and it didn't and okay
so now I have to pick up the pieces
and my insecurity stemmed from online dating
I'm not I don't like it
I didn't like it
We would swipe together, do you remember?
I didn't like the nature of it.
I didn't like the nature of, I really have a hard time handling the nature of the way that it is now,
which is like you don't even see the person.
You feel like you're being tricked half the time.
And then you start texting to the person.
You had serious trust issues.
Yeah, it was, it's trust issues caused by the nature of dating now.
Well, we'd swipe together.
And if the girl, like, wasn't showing one part of her body, he was like, I don't know what's happening there.
We can't trust this.
Or she'd say one thing like,
I like nature.
And he'd be like, psychopath.
She'd be like, I'm a teacher who likes to spend time on the beach.
You were like psycho.
Yeah, I just think it was like too many times of like, I'm like looking at the pictures.
I'm like, they're doing this at a certain angle.
There's a bunch of filters.
Like, I know this is not real.
And I don't like to waste my time.
So how the fuck did you get out of that kind of single spiral I like to call it where
you know you start get, you're not motivated to go on dates?
You kind of feel like everyone's going to let you down.
Right.
Starting to feel alone.
I'm starting to feel like, are you the one with the problem, have to deal with your parents?
We're in a spiral.
Well, no, I'm too old to deal with my parents.
My parents have, they gave up a long time.
Actually, my father died.
That's how he gave up.
Okay.
And then my mother is still there, but they're like, they're not giving up.
They're just like, whatever.
It is what it is.
They know you're okay.
You made it this far.
Yeah, yeah, I keep coming.
But, um...
I bounce back motherfuckers.
I bounce back pretty good.
But now, uh, I don't know.
I just, you know, you is going to sound corny, so you could make fun of it if you are.
You're going to say when you least expected.
No, you meditate, you work on yourself, you meditate.
It's not meant to be, life is not meant to be fun all the time and a party all the time.
There's down times, there's down times when you're supposed to be alone.
Those are the times you work on yourself to be a better person.
Meditation, hot yoga, you know, hot yoga.
Like you work out, get a good balance in life, work hard at your career, what you're passionate about.
And then it'll come or it might not come.
You know what I mean?
But like, whatever, maybe that's not meant for me.
maybe that's not meant for me to be with somebody
or whatever maybe I'm meant to be single for a long time
well I like the idea of where you are
is where you're supposed to be at that moment
and people always talk about like if you're single
it means you're searching
when it's like maybe it's healthy to be alone
and be single at that time
so you don't settle for someone
where your mental state is at that moment
and instead when you evolve yourself
you actually get with the person
that you're meant to be long term
so how'd you meet this chick?
I knew her from stand-up
comedy a long time ago so she was already in stand-up comedy i knew her but we didn't operate in
the same circles but i remember her years ago i was i thought she was cute so i was like i asked her
friend you know i was single at the time so i asked her friend i'm like hey how about her and she's
like well let me check so she checked she's like now she's dating someone i'm sorry so i was like oh
all right and i took the loss and uh then i just figured that she was always with somebody and then
we were at Montreal over the summer in July and I found that she was not dating anybody so I made
the move and it was like a because she's so like she was so nice and a hard worker and all this
stuff like and we knew each other from comedy as friends it took being like a little more bold
to let her know like look I'm trying to fuck you like this is not like this is not like oh I want
to help you with like let's look at our notes together and write like I don't like that
Yeah, that's corny.
We're not like, you're not tutoring her for calculus and then trying to, like, figure her.
You got to have some balls, but you got to have some balls and go, look, I'm trying to fuck you.
But then when you do that, you have to.
Sacrifice the friendship.
Well, it's not just that, but you have to expect, you can't be bitter if it comes back as a rejection.
If you go, look, I'm trying to fuck.
And she's like, look, I'm not into that at all.
You have to be okay with that.
You can't be a bitch about it.
Like, you took the step.
She rejected you, and now you got to sit in it and take it and not be a baby about it.
A lot of guys can't do that.
A lot of guys, and I understand why.
They can't take it.
They can't take it coming back.
Do you have any words to millennial men?
I feel like you're coming at someone right now.
Look, I wasn't raised in this technology age, so it's a whole different doors open.
And if I was raised with it, I'm sensitive.
I'm a sensitive guy, so it would have affected me.
I can sit here and say, oh, this would have, all this Twitter and online bullying, this never would have affected me.
It's like, that's bullshit.
I know myself, and I know I'm sensitive, and I know what have affected me.
You mean getting rejected content?
I mean, that's, it made, like, I was doing it and it made me bitter.
So it's like, I'm no better than anybody.
You come from a good family.
So it's like you have to kind of have a strong foundation, whether you get that from your
family or whether you develop it over time.
That helps you navigate all of this technology and this fly-by-night stuff.
Like, you have to have a good foundation in order to navigate it.
How do you think she differs from girls you've dated in the past?
Well, similarly to some of the girls I dated in the past, she's very smart and very pretty.
I'm very attracted to her.
So that's like...
I thought you're going to say I'm very shallow.
I can only do the prettiest.
I am just trying to get titty.
That's, no.
She's very smart.
She's very, I'm very attracted to her.
So that's like important, you know, right from the job.
Do you think you've tried to make things work before with people you were kind of attracted to, but wanted, didn't want to be alone?
Yeah, it was one of these things where it's like, yeah, I was, I was attracted to them, but it wasn't at the level that it needed to be.
also I feel like you just and I think that maybe I was like that for some women too
like I was like oh this guy's a good guy and you know but maybe he's not what I need yeah you
obviously because I've been dumped you want to feel like that person would do anything to touch you
and be around you because it's like then we might as well just be friends right who have a great
emotional connection unless you want to fuck me all the time right right right especially in the
beginning where the dopamine is hitting if you're not fucking all the time there's something
wrong wow sorry I'm passionate about that if you're not fucking like rabbits I don't care if
you're 56 or 26 question yourself wow I didn't know you became a gangster rapper
the 20 minute mark do you like how she smells yeah we're getting to the creepy
aspect of it do you ever collect her hair and put it in your pillowcase keep her panties
but you know um now very pretty and and got a lot going and came from like a good family like good
place and the way that she's approaching the business end of the comedy the way she's doing it
is the right way to do it so speaking of comedy a lot of comedians put their foot down say i'll never
date another comedian i did that you did do that i did do it yeah you did do you did absolutely
you did so what changed you just were like i need to stop i saw her and i was like i have to take a
chance i have to take a chance whether i'm too she's too pretty like i'm too attracted to
For people listening, I have to risk it.
Why do comedians not date well with other comedians?
There's a lot of reasons.
It helps in a lot of ways because you understand each other's schedule and all that.
But in another way, you're kind of running the same race.
So it's like you're, but I'll tell you what's really helped me with that.
Living with your ex has really helped me.
It's a person I genuinely love who, when I moved in to the apartment, he was a waiter.
I had a special on Comedy Central.
On Comedy Central.
So you're running the same race with him.
So, well, we're in the same field.
And he's a guy who's approaching the business the same way that I am, which we're in it.
We're in it full time, 100%.
Are you in it?
Minut.
We're in it.
I don't know if I mentioned that.
But it's like you love somebody and then you see them excel and deserve everything he gets.
He deserves.
He's the one guy where the industry is getting it right with him.
It's unbelievable.
Well, when you're that close to someone, you can see that.
I think jealousy stems from when you just see someone on Instagram get something and you're like, that's not fair.
I work hard too, but you see his day to day.
Yeah, but jealousy is the wrong word.
It's almost like, he deserves everything he's getting.
And I've had this one with my friend.
He deserves it and God bless him.
I want him to win.
But I also want to win too.
Like I'm putting in these hours and it's not opening up for me the way that it's opening up for him.
So jealousy is like, I want to tear this person down.
They don't deserve it.
That's wrong.
He deserves it absolutely.
but it's like you it's almost like a mirror being held up to yourself where it's like
am I doing something wrong like why is this not opening up from me the way that it's opening up
for him or just different people basically I felt like it was a tough time too because like I was
dating him and his stuff was really hot at the time and I felt like he had a relationship
he had like these specials coming out and the TV show and I felt like you're constantly
reminded that every day you walk into the apartment no matter how mentally strong you are
you still can start getting because I know you're tough at yourself
Because I'm the same way.
Like, growing up as an athlete, you get criticized a lot, so the voice inside your head can be extremely critical.
So, like, someone does something well, and you might not be jealous of him, but you're like, come on, what are you doing?
Right.
What are you doing?
Yeah, that's exactly what it is.
It's a reflection of like, okay, it's he's doing the right things and it's working out for him.
Like, are you doing the right?
They just to start looking at yourself more.
It's like, are you doing the right things?
It seems like you're doing the right things.
And then it's.
And he has so much belief in you too.
Right.
So it's like, he would say, it's.
if I was doing something wrong, he would help me.
I would ask them.
I would be like, look, do people think I'm a hack?
Like I, I, I, you don't know.
Sometimes you're not self-aware.
So it's like you need that help where it's like,
what do you think?
We would have like talks about you a lot actually
because we both had a mutual love for you.
So I'd be like, how's he doing?
What's a strategy?
What's going on?
But I love being able to talk to you now.
Like, I don't know, a year or two has gone by.
How do you think you've changed since I last met you?
Well, I've been through that period and I've,
I got to say something about the internet
like the internet's very bad if you float
towards the wrong things
there's a lot of like if you're just drifting on the internet
you can get dragged into a lot of negativity
there's so many weird energies
that you don't need
be very very negative
even if you're just drifting through
and you don't mean to fall
you're going to fall into something bad
and dark wormholes
it's bad but the upside to that
is there's so much information available
on how to better yourself mentally
and spiritually and how the mind and the body
are connected and all this stuff so I just
focus on that keep hitting that and then i'm like look i'm in the position i'm in which is a good
position actually you know what i mean and uh just keep trying to better yourself and keep coming
and then wherever it lands it lands you know what i mean like it's almost like you have to let go a
little bit and go like dude you can't control the result no you have to it's like in boxing
if you're trying to throw a punch and you you squeeze as hard as you can the punch is not going
to hit as if you're loose and feeling and trusting your body trust the mental like stamina of it all
But that's not to say don't try.
Like, it's a thing, like, I don't know, in yoga, it's a thing where it's like,
I'm not very flexible.
I told you this before.
You don't know.
I'm not very flexible and whatever.
But I try real hard in the class.
And that's really what the important thing is.
See, because mentally you know how far you can push it.
You're the one who knows.
Well, we always bonded over yoga.
I liked it because I was a beginner at it.
And my whole life, I was doing things where people put so much expectation of me
and there was so much judgment on the result.
But yoga was.
this place that I got to have that beginner mindset, which is actually so beautiful that
human people don't like being beginners. It's uncomfortable. It's weird. But with yoga,
I would do things I'd struggle with, but actually have the satisfaction of improvement and not
having to like hit a result. And I think if day to day you focus on that little improvement,
you feel good about yourself because you know you tried, even if that trying was just getting
out of bed when you're depressed. Yeah. I like that also the thing which I think I would have been a much
better wrestler if I would have done it when I was wrestling. Because I was good for who I was.
I wasn't the best athlete in the world, but I was tough. But it's being in the states where it's
like high stress in the class, your heart is going out of control and connecting to your breath
and controlling your mind. That's important because it translates very well to life. There's
going to be times, you know, where people are down on you and it seems like you're losing. And it's
like you just take a breath and control your mind.
When I was young, I didn't realize I could control my mind.
I thought that once the court happened, it was just like things were happening to me
and I was in survival mode.
I didn't realize that if I could control my breath and if I could control my thoughts
that the result would change, I just thought it was happening to me
because I wasn't mature enough to realize that my mind didn't have to control me.
Yeah.
I mean, that's a thing.
I mean, I don't know.
I was raised well
and I think my parents did a good job
It's like stuff like that
I mean I don't know
You just learn that on the way I think
But also that's why I want to have this podcast
Is to talk to people and be like
Hey I experience what it's like to not control your mind
And then I learned how to it improved a lot of shit
But there's a good thing like in it for women
Because I know there's women out there
Who might be listening
Who are like I'm frustrated in dating
Like I'm not dating the right guys
And I'm tired of it
I'm tired of they're good people
And they're strong people, but it's a thing where you have to make sure whether you're frustrated with your dating world or you're frustrating with your career.
It's you have to do it for the sake of doing a good job and for your own self-satisfaction of doing a good job.
You can't tilt towards bitterness.
And it's very, very easy to get bitter in those situations.
So if you are one of those people who is getting bitter, like stop yourself and breathe into it and be like, there's no, it's not fair at work.
there's no justice i can't like these guys are all morons like they don't like me for who i am they want
something else you it makes you feel a certain kind of way but you're like don't be self-aware of that
and don't tilt towards bitterness because the energy you put out in the world affects your
interactions right like you might just be in your head about being bitter but that conversation
in your head is actually like people will be affected by right and if you can stay positive and
know that like you're trying your best you're doing your thing right that energy attracts people
Do you feel like your energy was in a good place when you met your girl?
Yeah.
Can you give me this moment?
No, I was just going to be like, I'm just going to let it go.
I'm just going to like, I was dating more than when, when you were around.
I was dating more, kind of like, not really dating, but like, you know, whatever, hooking up.
So I was in a pretty good place.
You said you put yourself out there and you're like, men need to put themselves out there more.
What did you do?
What was a line?
I told her.
I told her. I'm like, look, because we were friends.
Was there a moment that you felt like you had an opening or you just like bulldozed it?
I just bulldozed it because I'm like, we're just going to stay parallel as friends.
And I'm not smooth.
Did you feel any sense from her that she was, you're very smooth, Michael.
I'm not that smooth, but I'm like, I'd rather be clunky and honest than smooth and like kind of deceitful.
At the end of the honesty will always come out better than being weird and manipulative.
But it's a double-edged sword.
because if you're clunky and honest
and you get rejected, then you have to sit in it.
And there's no way around it.
Risk comes great reward.
We're just doing random quotes right now.
That's true.
Now who's on Twitter?
Oh, you want to come at me right now?
Actually, you guys were on Twitter and I'm like,
these guys are fucking losers.
And then I got a Twitter because for Summer House,
they were like, you should get Twitter.
And then I just started tweeting and it was fun.
And then I realized I like posting tweets
rather than photos of myself
and then the rest of history
did you get a sense
you should have a Twitter
you have a lot to say
I do
I have a lot of thoughts
that need to be heard
by a lot of Indian princes
that follow me
did you get a sense
a little sense
that she could be into it too
or did you blind
her friend told me
she was attracted to me
so I got a big
like her friends
was like oh she's
she's into it she's attracted to you
oh okay so I was like
oh I just assumed she always had
I just assumed she had a boyfriend
yeah
and they were like
oh no
And I was like, okay, well, I got to, I have to, and even then, it was like, it was, she wasn't giving me a flirty vibe. So I had to like, but I kind of like that. Because I feel like some of the girls you'd be with were because they'd just be like all over you. And you wouldn't have time to think if you're attracted to her. They just had tits in your face. With her, you, why do you think your personalities are compatible? Because I think that's important. I don't know how to describe it. We just get along very well as friends because it's as the, as the,
sex you know it's inevitable that the sex is going to fade into something so you're just
evolve evolve evolve evolve is the right word eventually it's going to fade it's going to whatever it's
not going to be as exciting as it was so um that newness is going to so you're left there with a person
and you have to genuinely like the person you have to be they always were a person you have to get along
be able to get along and be able to function I don't know I don't know what I'm saying I haven't
been that far like I've never been married
so well you've got quite
the life just to like you were
a teacher a special education teacher
after college which I
which I did enjoy you know what I
mean like I was I was just talking to her
about it and I was like I
approach it the same way I approach everything like I worked
real hard at it a good relationship with my kids
like tried to connect with the parents I love
when you talk about your kids yeah I loved
it you still remember
so many of them yeah because they're on Facebook
they're like hi Mr. Vick what's going
on mr veck did they come see your shows ever they did when i was in philly that's so funny and i my high school
kids came to uh one of them but um it's great now on facebook they hit me up with messages hi mr veck
what's going on mr veck how you doing mr veck why you not getting back to me mr veck why you not
get back to me and then i get back to him and i'll be like uh it's uh frustrating when somebody's asking
you a question and you don't answer right now you know how i feel
then you realize that you hate all children and then you went into comedy is that what happened
that's it now the comedy thing just happened uh i came out of a relationship another one that was
that was a big one that was a one where it was like i thought we were going to get married and uh
i came out of it and i didn't think comedy was an option at the time so i came out of it just because
it was more than you were like 24 or something yeah 20 25 26 and it just didn't seem like an option
It's like, oh, this is too much running around for no money.
Like, if I'm going to be in a functional relationship,
like I have to bring home money and try to work on my career.
Yeah, men have that pressure, I feel like, especially back then.
Well, they did in the 90s when they were still men.
I'm insulting all the millennial guys.
Men like guys have it very hard.
I mean, they do have very hard now nowadays.
I mean, this online dating, I can't get over.
If you're like a good marketing person, if you're a good marketing person, then you're going to be good at it.
But if you're not, then you're not going to be any good at it.
But I'm also, like, kind of attracted to.
to guys who have like no Instagram followers and don't know what like memes are like I
like that I think it's hot if he's too into social media and like too techy and like into that
I don't I don't know I don't like that I don't want him to call you want to date somebody in their
50s I'm looking for a daddy I clearly have daddy issues I'm like you do my dad maybe a tennis coach
oh god that would be so traumatic I'd be triggered by everything everything you said you want some water
You never let me have water when I was tired in training as a kid.
Did you ever contemplate quitting comedy?
Suicide.
Oh.
Quitting comedy.
No, because it was such a gradual thing.
I was teaching and then I was doing it.
This is before YouTube and all this stuff.
I was in Twitter.
I was teaching and doing it at night when you could still do that.
And then I moved to New York.
When I moved to New York, I was like, I'm going to take a risk.
So since being in New York, you've never had one moment where you're like,
this might not be for me.
No.
I fucking love that
No because I was in New York
Before I moved to New York
I was like I'll either be crazy successful
And this will work out
Or it won't and I'll just get a job
Doing something in New York
It'll be great, I'll live in New York
And who cares
But I didn't realize there would be this weird
Inbetween phase
Where it's like you'll be getting things
There'll be periods of like
Where it'll just still be improving
But you know
Industry wise there won't be much happening
And then you'll get a bump here
A bump there
It's tons of ups and down
Even with someone who's very successful
Like I learned from my ex
Because he showed me how
No matter what success you have
People don't talk about after you get what you want
You think you should have
How you cope with then the stuff that comes with it
I know that sounds like
Oh I'm really pretty
Now I don't know what to do
It's really life never stops at a goal
Yeah he's a good
He's a ground up guy anyway
So it's easier to handle that way
You know what I mean
When you have successes you're like
you don't over it's like kind of like the thing where you've been there before it's like you've been
there before dude okay you're getting some success here that's good like it's good enjoy it but take it
with a grain of salt it's not the end it's not the on the best thing you can get I also feel like if
you put too much pressure on a goal you put too much hype in it like that's how I would self
sabotage with tennis like I'd be playing a girl who's like the second seed and I would be like
this is your chance this is your time and I would just like crack under the pressure
but if you're more level-headed like I've done this before I've been this before this is a day at the office
I'm going to play my best and move on I think I would have had better results to be honest
stoicism I love that soicism is my shit I'm because I need that I'm the opposite of a stoic person
I that's such a great it's such a great philosophy you know how are you different preparing yourself
for stand-up versus wrestling wrestling I was clueless I was really bad in preparing myself for matches
I was really really bad and affected me loss-wise I took a lot of losses I probably shouldn't have taken
because I just wasn't mentally there.
But for stand-up now, it's like go out, take a breath,
and then, you know, just let it go a little bit.
Do you have a confidence in yourself
in stand-up you didn't have in wrestling?
I think it's a confidence that evolved over time,
like as a man, like I grew as a person.
Because the guys who are naturally gifted,
they have a much different experience
than the people who have to work at it
and take losses and take beatings and stuff.
Those guys are actually above the fray,
so they have a different experience.
I'm not saying easier, but different.
Mine was weird because physically,
I think I was I was top notch but then mentally I like you said why do you think I'm so good at
Twitter because I have a shit ton of thoughts and the wrong thoughts would go in my brain all the time
and I had so much trouble quieting my brain on the court because I would think of what would go wrong
like before matches I'd go in the bathroom for 10 minutes because I thought was calming for me
but I would just get into a thought spiral of all the bad things that could happen in this match
and then like not want to go out but I would always go out right but those things made me the person
and who I am and hell teaches that that shit.
Yeah, you realize that you can control your thoughts.
You realize that you have enough of those where you're like,
and if you can, that's why I'm saying,
the internet is good, all this information is out there
about your mind-body connection that wasn't there before.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
So you start listening to it and reading about stuff.
You're like, oh, this is something that I can get a hold of.
And as a result, I can be a better person because of it.
It is good to hear it.
More effective.
I like hearing other people's experiences that you can compare it rather than just
like random articles that are like,
webmd type shit but when people talk about their experiences and open up in that way it's beneficial that's
why millennials are open about their anxiety and shit growing up were you allowed to talk about
anxiety did you know what anxiety was yeah it was a it was a thing but it wasn't italians have a
shit ton of anxiety a shit ton and it comes from our parents and all that stuff like down our throats
and stuff but um anxiety all the stuff it's good that it's being talked about it's much better than
when i was growing up yeah in terms of being talked about there's also a
a thing where there's an overcompensation for it too now, which is bad. It's bad and it's, there's a,
there's a, um, you think people use it as kind of an excuse? Well, there's a coddling effect to it.
The thing is I don't like is also, it's like they're using it and they're trying to medicalize it.
Yeah. It's like it's not that, dude. It's not, you know. So, there's, you're thinking like
I just read this book called, I just read this big pharma is trying to take advantage of the millennial mind.
I don't know if it's big pharma. I think that, um, I just read this book called the coddling of the
American Mine by Jonathan Haidt.
Cool.
I love a man who reads.
It's really, uh.
Millennial guys don't read beside my Twitter.
They just scroll my Twitter.
They scroll.
It's not, it's less reading more scrolling.
Strong thumbs.
It talks about how like everybody has that argument, football, you know, these kids
shouldn't play football, you know.
I started playing football when I was nine and, um, which is probably why I had the mental
problems I have.
No, they always make that argument.
It's like you shouldn't play football because of concussions.
It's like, all right, dude.
I mean, I understand.
that there's another side to it though and it's like physical contact really humbles you like
when i was not i didn't walk around thinking i was superman because i knew that if i ran full force
into another kid i felt what that felt like so i i would argue that's why you have a lot of these
dumdums on twitter saying all kinds of mean nasty thing all this shit it's like you've never been hit
before but do you think you've never been hit you've never been in a contact situation so you don't know
there's ramifications for the things that you do do you think these people were always out there now
they just have the technology to say whatever they want to whoever they want i mean that's an aspect
women never get to get hit sometimes like i never have gotten like smoked on a football field i think
it's i think it's good been mentally abused i know but you came up through a um athletic system of
training and the results yeah you have to having to deal with the results yeah but i just think it's
good for young men to like play a contact i mean not for all
not for all but for them to demonize it and be like contact sports are just a thing of the past like
there's a function to it and it matters i wasn't i wasn't as athletically gifted like in my
high school i went back and they're like they practice in shorts and um shoulder pads and helmets
during the week and then play the game i'm like that would have changed my football experience and
we had to hit every day except for the day before the game we did walkthroughs but we had to hit
And that changed my perspective
Like I had to prepare for it every day
These aren't the kids making that decision
These are their parents who are like
I don't know
Like it's almost more your
Slash older generation
That are treating the kids like this
I don't know if because they were the first like corporate America
That did well and they really want to make sure
Their kids have the best possibility
But the message
The takeaway from this is if you're coddling your kid
I don't know how many people you have
Have kids and listening
What about pets?
Like I coddle my cat butter
It's all right
with pets but if you coddle your kid i want to make a i want to make a very serious i want to make a very
serious point if you're coddling your kid i'm very much against it if you're coddling your kid you're
not doing him or her any favors you're you're setting them up for failure so if you're doing that and you're
a helicopter parent and you're coddling your kid and and they're going to be like oh well what what what
you don't have kids like but i do have a master's in this and i did work in behavioral schools so i do
understand it. If you're coddling them and many people are, you're making a mistake. You're
crippling them. This is actually an important moment because I think the whole point of burning
in hell this podcast is for people to listen to other people's hell and realize that it's actually
the adversity in hell that they went through that made them who they are. And if you're constantly
coddled and you don't deal with adversity, you don't fucking grow. You don't become the person
you are and getting confidence. So thank you for setting me up for that. I've been manipulating you
this whole time from the very beginning of meeting you in that apartment to make this statement
to help people. I didn't realize how premeditated you were. So premeditated.
No, I knew. I knew you liked me the second you met me because I played D1 and you like love
that shit. No, I love your competitive energy. I just didn't know it ran this deep. I feel like
my ex had very competitive energy too. He does. He does. Absolutely. Do you, we were in like
slightly different industries. You're in the same industry. Do you talk about careers with your
girlfriend or do you try to like keep that separate no we talk about it yeah because it's part of your life
you're part of your life and it's a big part like she's attacking it she's in it the same way that i'm in it
the way that you're in it together now that like uh no no no i don't you're still separate
separate because it's an individual sport yeah but supportive of each other like she helped me with
a big thing recently she probably knows how to deal with shit better because she's been through a lot
of shit that you have yeah like even just dealing with a bad set yeah not that you've ever had one
No, I haven't.
You haven't.
For your listeners out there.
At Comic Mike V.
This is where I do all my plugs.
Follow me at Comic Mike V on all social media.
Now I'll stop me for a quick commercial break.
Let's go to traffic.
It is terrible out there on the FDR.
And I'll tell you what.
You want to talk about burning in hell.
Tractor trailer overturned.
Three lanes.
FDR.
You're going to be there for a while.
You're going to wish you were in hell.
Let's go to weather.
Anna.
Are you done?
Yeah.
Okay, so we're going to finish with a final game.
Seven Deadly Sins.
What are you greedy about?
Eating, eating.
Like, I'll try to eat everything on the plate just because I have a condition that way.
Me too.
And I'll eat it fast.
Eat it fast, and I'll eat everything on the plate.
And I watch other people, they pick at it, and they take a break, they drink a glass of water, and they don't eat as much.
When I have food in front of me, there could be any.
anything going on, like a cat and a tree crying, and I will, no, I'll save the cat.
But anyway.
What about two men in a hot tub arguing over who they're going to have sex with that night
or who they're going to try to hook up with?
Summer Home.
What do you think of me being on the show?
Hashtag Summer Home.
What was your initial reaction?
I want to know because I couldn't talk to you because that's inappropriate.
Can I be honest with you?
Yeah.
I was like, I'm sorry, I don't insult any of the other castmates.
I was like, Hannah's above this is really what I thought.
Well, it's funny. Actually, my boss at the time texted me and said, I had higher hopes for you.
Oh, really?
Which was pretty brutal.
Yeah.
But at the time I was, you know what the entertainment industry is.
It seems like an opportunity for me that they'd interviewed tons of people.
Right.
And the fact that they were offering me this and paying me.
Yeah.
And I kind of knew the cast.
It was already like I love going out to the Hamptons on the weekend.
And I saw it as a platform to now.
Are you worried about how they would make you look?
They storyboard it?
Honestly, I feel like from my breakup with your roommate, I did a lot of work on myself.
And I felt like the first time I was very in touch with my intuition, my inner voice, and that
I was just really comfortable with who I am.
And I couldn't have done it a couple years ago.
I would have been too insecure about how I would be.
I actually had a phobia.
Yeah, I had a phobia of going on reality TV as in like some one thing would quickly happen
and everyone would judge me by that moment.
It was kind of an obsessive thing I've had.
Even meeting people, I'd try to impress them really quick.
Like, they had to know who I was in that five-minute intro.
Right.
But I found this calmness in myself recently.
And I just felt like I want to go on not, I wasn't trying to be perfect by any means.
I want to show my imperfection.
Right.
And if they, I can't be the villain if I'm just being authentic.
Right.
So as long as I wasn't the villain and trying to hurt people, which I knew I wouldn't,
I was like, this is just a fun, cool experience.
Like trying to get them on a boat for your birthday?
You mean like that?
I'm so.
Men.
Manipulative.
You're very manipulative.
No.
Okay.
So you saying that if you're using it as a stepping stone to something, I would say, yeah.
Because I think that you're, you have a lot of, you're a deep, good person.
Thank you.
And I don't think that that platform lets you.
I don't think it portrays that in you.
I think it portrays a very superficial, which is, it's, yeah, it's what they want to do.
I am trying to break that stigma.
of going on TV and then becoming that like person that everyone just aspires to be like in your perfect self all the time or people laughing at you trying to be perfect and instead I just was like this is me yeah people are struggling people are suffering so if you can give them some advice on how to help them to power through or to even even enjoy it like even enjoy it and I've always wanted to do that it was always in me but now it's given me a platform where people like will reach out to me and I they'll listen to me right and I feel like I can have an effect on people but also what you said in the beginning every day
when I'd film, I just, like, deep down, felt like I was trying my best. Like, I was trying my best
to be myself and do my thing. As long as I knew that, I was fine with the filming. Is that why
you went topless in the hot tub? Damn it! No, I went topless episode 10. So, yeah, I'm greedy
about food, too. We spiraled off, the deadly sins. We spiraled it. I'm greedy about food, yeah.
Are you trying to eat cleaner? Italians. Well, we crave bread and pasta, olive oil. Love it.
I'm hungry.
Yeah.
Let's go get some pasta after this.
We're such stereotypes.
Who are you envious of besides me?
I don't know if I'm envious of.
I see people's lives.
I'm like from the outside because you don't know what kind of problems people have underneath.
You see people who are successful and you're like, oh, I'd like that level of success.
I look at it kind of like, oh, I'd like that level of success.
But in my mind, my arrogance, I would be like, I know how to handle that lifewise.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like you see people at a level of success, but it doesn't.
It doesn't seem like they know how to handle it like in terms of taking in stride in life, realizing what the important things are.
They seem to be.
And it's very easy to get seduced by that.
But you're like, oh, no, if I had that success.
And it could be, I could be wrong.
Maybe they have that success because they literally don't understand the little things that will make them happy.
So that's all they can try to do.
They say on social media, people who post photos in their relationship tend to be the most insecure about their relationship.
Yes, I believe that.
It's like when you're posting successful photos of yourself, you're putting it into the world for a reason.
Why would you post a photo of you on a private jet traveling?
Because you're trying to manipulate people's minds to think that you're busy, which probably means you really are insecure about how busy you are.
There's a hole in your heart.
You're trying to fill it with pictures of you being on a private jet.
Do you know that in L.A. there's this thing where you can rent out an hour and sit on a private jet and take photos.
Really?
So you look like you have a PJ?
That's amazing.
I'm sorry I'm using my L.A. voice.
That's amazing.
What you just said is fire and it's amazing and it's lit.
What do you gluttonous about besides food?
I'm not a big...
I like to have money, but I'm not a big money guy.
I guess sex.
I like, you know, sex with a person I care about,
which probably sounds corny to your listeners.
No, not at all.
But yeah, I'm going to be in to somebody and it's like, yeah,
all the time.
Let's go.
Let's do this
But then how could you have ever dated someone
You weren't like crazy wanting to fuck
I don't think I ever have
You know what I mean?
I don't think I've ever dated
It's never been it's never been
It's like
Sex for me is
It's intensity
Like it's ratcheted intensity
Yeah I've heard it
I've heard it
Yeah so so
We used to joke
We'd hear like banging and screaming and screaming
and yeah but I like I really like that so in order for that
are you ever like soft and gentle yeah soft and gentle but there's like
different you know ebbs and flows of it yeah it's like the waves
yeah of the ocean it's like the waves it's high tide you know there's a lifeguard out there's
a red flag swim at your own risk type situation you can't fake any of it you can't
I don't like there's no faking it and I don't know how other guys are but like I don't
like being disassociated with it in having sex like that's pointless to me that's why i don't like
random sex because i'd rather just masturbate than have a guy masturbate with my vagina and like you don't
it doesn't feel good because he doesn't know your body and you have no connection with him you can make
it up in your head yeah but why don't just make it out in your head with yourself and actually come but even
if it's a one night stand or something like that it's like a thing where like the good one night
stands that i've had has been like kind of like an agreement it's like let's just let it go and um
fun with each other you know like have fun with each other and those there's a
vulnerability in that and vulnerability i think is what makes sex good but mostly it's like
somebody you know when you establish something something with and it's like you can really just let
it go and you're right it is vulnerability like you're letting it you're just letting it go i've had
people who i like thought i was emotionally connected i didn't know why but i wanted to be around them
a lot um but i only fuck with dudes like six two and up but this one guy was less than six two yeah
It's tragic.
Tragic.
But, and I was like, I'm not.
Can you believe there's even people not killing themselves, guys who are less than six, too?
And I was like, I think I might be attracted to him.
I don't think so, but I'll try.
And because I was so obsessed with his personality and how he carried himself, I became so attracted to him.
And I want to take it back.
Nothing against guys.
But I, like, in my head was going through this disassociative phase with dudes where I didn't want to get emotional.
So just objectifying all of them.
I was like, only six to you, that's letting go to the book.
And it made girls laugh and make guys very mad at me.
Well, for those of you listening, I'm 5-8.
Are you 5-8?
Yeah.
So when I got in here-
When I got in here, Hannah, was like,
how many phone books do you need to get up to the microphone?
Mike, is that why you spike your hair to get an extra two inches?
Yeah.
Is that true?
Are you ever going to change your hairdo?
I don't think so.
I tried to do like a footh thing.
I just don't like it was much.
I could see you like Great Gatsby-esque.
I don't know what that is.
You know what Chris is Stephanie does his hair?
Yeah, but my hair is thicker than Chris's.
And you can tell him I said that.
No, my hair, I've been blessed to have thick hair,
so there's only like so many things I can do with it.
You do.
For those of you ladies who would like to see what I look like and gentlemen,
I'm on Instagram at Comic Mike V.
Sorry, are we going to do plugs anytime soon?
I do it at the end if they last that long.
But I think that your Instagram is great
because you interview your little cousin,
who I fucking love, the, like, the older one.
I think.
Luca.
Luca.
I Italian shamed him.
I Italian shamed him.
It was great.
I love when you shame your family because they're all like, Mike, shut the fuck up.
And you're getting the biggest kick out of it.
When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath?
Oh, I got into an argument with a friend of mine, a friend of ours.
We all know him.
And I got into an argument with him.
And I, that's a good question, because I remember feeling so very,
Biciously angry.
No, no, no, no, not.
We never, we, when we have a problem, we, first of all, we rarely have problems, but if we do have
when we talk about it.
Yeah.
Like you guys could get married if you wanted to.
Yeah.
Your bathroom's fucking disgusting.
Do you still have a hundred shampoo bottles in your bathroom?
Yeah, but that's, we have a lot.
From girlfriends past.
All right, we enjoy a lot of options for people when they come to the shower.
They're all crusty and old.
I will, I was, oh, I wanted to just throw it all away, but he was like, Mike's going
to get really mad.
Mike will get really mad if you throw it away.
And I'm like,
that pisses a lot of,
like a lot of girls that get pissed off of that.
Yeah,
it's like a weird power move by you.
You're like,
you could be replaced by any of these shampoo bottles
in any second.
What were you mad at the friend about?
I felt like he was trying to bully me
and it made me,
I mean,
I didn't felt that way.
Had you done this in the past before?
He has that aspect to his personality.
Yeah.
So,
I know who you're talking about.
And I love him.
I love him.
So it hit me the wrong way.
And I felt like a viciousness.
You were defending yourself.
That I haven't felt in a long time.
Did you have to like alpha and show like, I'm no one to be bullied?
You know, we ended up having to talk about it.
We ended up having to talk about it.
That's all.
It just ended up.
Were you able to be calm in the talk?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because it was days later.
It was days later.
And to his credit, he called me.
But on the phone, when we started to get, we started to get chippy, it, it escalated.
And then I took it actually, I could feel it in my gut.
It took me over.
I hate getting chippy.
Like, I hate losing or cool and becoming in, like, a sour place with people, because I'm very sensitive, too.
Yeah.
I always try to keep it as light or calm as possible.
But I do snap on Summerhouse at the very end.
I snap.
I have to watch.
I mean, it's might win an Emmy this season.
When was the last time you were a sloth?
What's a sloth?
Lazy.
Oh, lazy.
Yesterday.
Really?
Yeah, yesterday.
Because I'll tell you what happened.
And my brother came into town.
He's on business.
he has a family he's like works so hard so he came in we went to a spot we went to a diner afterwards
um and then we went to a cigar bar which was a mistake it was a huge mistake because the ventilation
wasn't good and we smoked cigar and had two bottles of wine and then i went home the next day i woke
up throwing up that's yesterday yesterday i woke up vomiting alcohol i can't do it was brutal i think
the place you look skinny today though port ventilation thank you i did go to yoga i went to yoga
Hot yoga to detox.
Cool.
Because I felt like garbage.
Do you ever go to the yoga room?
No.
There's one in a story.
I know Bickram.
Bickram yoga.
Do you ever get sick of it?
I don't go that much.
Okay.
I talk a lot of shit, but I don't go that much.
I did yoga for like two years straight and then a year I couldn't do it.
And now I'm back into it a little.
But I think it makes me, I look better.
I feel better, but I also look better.
Yeah.
Physically, my skin looks better when I do it.
When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something?
I think in this business
sometimes people will ask you to do stuff
and I don't know if it's pride
but it's like now I'm worth more than that
so no I think you should
Yeah so I don't know if that's a pride pride
Like you're using it is a bad thing
But in that situation it's like
No I'm worth more I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be
I think it's being honest with yourself
Like in the beginning of my career
I was freelancing for no money
Because that's what I was worse
And but then once you start
You have to know when to switch things
I also one thing I'm learning about this industry
is everything's negotiable,
which as a woman,
you're taught to just kind of be caring
and a caretaker
and not like say,
I want more.
You're supposed to be like easy going
and not like take up too much space.
So for someone to be like,
oh, can you do this for $500 and me to go?
No, $1,000 was like the scariest thing ever.
Yeah, yeah.
But then I saw how like managers and agents do it
like in their sleep.
Right.
But the other side of that is be willing to take the loss.
Exactly.
You have to realize it's,
It's a game that you're not always going to win.
So this is our final question.
You're doing amazing.
Thank you.
When was the last time you lusted over someone?
I don't know.
My girl, when we met, I lusted over her.
Like, I lusted over her because I asked her.
I wanted to sleep with her immediately.
Okay.
And she put the, she was like, no, we're not doing that.
You tried first night?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, well, I knew her.
So I was like, hey, we should, you know, we're in Montreal.
Did you just want to see if the sex would be good?
sex I didn't foresee a relationship even I just want to have sex like I was like but you wanted a
girlfriend so bad so why were you going in no no no I wouldn't I don't say I wanted a relationship I've
learned over the years that you don't do that you know you don't want to relate I didn't want a relationship
so bad I just you see how it plays out you always see how it plays out because you start planning
for that and then it's like oh this is you get lost in who the person actually is yeah if you
come with that mindset like I want this to go you start projecting your own feelings on
onto them and it's like oh this is not who this actually is you are so right also i have a theory that
i've been right a lot on this podcast by the way i'm honestly impressed i thought you were going to
fuck up the whole time i think that you could have sex at any point and if it's meant to be you can't
fuck it up i know people have had sex first date and they're dating or married you can't plan how
it's going to perfectly work out right to wrap this up is there a special um burning and hell
wrap up there is and it's a question how do you cope with your hell that's a good one it's a good one
And there's a lot of, there's a lot of wrong ways to do it.
And the right way to do it is to face it head on, like get the real issues and face it down instead of like...
Putting it in your back pocket.
Putting in your back pocket or a lot of people are doing this now because of social media and because of the world that we live in.
And I understand it.
They're taking their feelings of insecurity, negativity, bitterness, and they're extrapolating them out into a socially acceptable cause.
And they're coming at this cause.
They're not coming at the cause with a pure heart.
They're coming at the cause with a level of bitterness that is, that the cause has nothing
to do with the actual cause.
So they're projecting their problems onto that.
Yeah.
People have a hard time looking at themselves in the mirror and being like, okay, what, this,
I'm so behind this and protesting this and that.
It's like, what's going on inside of me?
And where is this coming from?
It's coming from a good place of like a balanced, even keeled place of like when with those kinds of things, you're not just going to one more.
You're doing things like you're not trolling people on Twitter for domestic abuse jokes.
What you're doing is you're gathering coats and you're getting them to a woman shelter to help them.
So you're doing things not on social media.
You're doing just things.
And that's how you get real confidence in yourself.
And that's how you really learn about yourself, not based on how many.
likes that photo god that doesn't teach you by yourself you just doing it without people know it's like
practice my dad would always be like practice when no one's looking and that's where you get the
confidence yeah that's the same thing i don't want to get too deep but train and don't tell anyone
or like when prayer and stuff like the people who are praying like in front of every like you can
you can pray on the subway you can pray you know like in your own in your own head in your own space
you don't have to announce it there doesn't have to be a meme about it you know what i mean you
okay don't bring me don't bring means into it not bring means into it it's a point of
contention you like my memes you haven't been liking my shit in social media but i'm not i don't
think it was for me though it's it's for younger people i feel like but i want my humor to be
understood by the masses i don't want it to be too niche i feel like there's some things that you
could laugh at there's some things that you could compare your life too i'll make a fucking
italian no i feel like it's a lot of dating it is a lot of dating it's like a lot of younger
person dating stuff yeah it's a lot of single woman single and there's stuff there is stuff that
translates over to life i love how i'm manipulating you to give me a compliment right now um no but
i feel what you're doing thank you i appreciate your support i appreciate your honesty you're always
vulnerable vulnerable i think you're the realest in the game let's be honest um mike vecchio and follow
him where on instagram it's at comic mic b on all social media platforms twitter instagram can i plug my
podcast of course honey i have a podcast called no disrespect can you be more excited when you say i have
podcast. I mean, this week on Summer Home, an older man shows up and grabs Hannah Burner out of the
brunch. You've had one too many mimosas, burner. My podcast, everybody, is called No Disrespect.
It's on the gas digital network and available on iTunes. That's no disrespect. And you could find
me on all social media platforms at Comic Mike V and my website, Mikevecion.com for live dates.
got shows coming up all over New York City. Check them out. Don't get him confused with a hockey
player named Mike Vecchio on the Eagles. Or a district attorney. No, he's on the Philadelphia Flyers.
Okay. Well, there's a lot of Mike Veckeons out there. Now you know. And also, exciting news is I have a
Burning and Hell Facebook group now called Burning and Hell Little Devils, because I decide y'all
are my little devils. That's great. And it's a place for you guys to talk shit, because that's
what we love to do. Thanks for coming to hell, guys, and I will talk with you later. Bye.
Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha ha ha.