Berner Phone - Mike Vecchione: Ex Friends & New Lovers

Episode Date: May 29, 2019

Mike is Hannah’s ex boyfriend’s best friend and this is the first time they have spoken since the breakup. He also happens to be a hysterical comedian so he was the perfect podcast guest. The two ...discuss the complexities of a breakup, how he succeeded in getting out of the friend zone, having the same career as your best friend or significant other and not getting jealous of their success, how to focus on the positives of the internet and stay away from the negatives, how hard you should actually try at things, how many times he contemplated quitting comedy, the weird in-between phase no one talks about in their careers, kids who are coddled, his honest opinion of Hannah being on reality tv, disassociated sex, people who are bad at handling success, and how everything is negotiable. Follow Hannah Berner on Instagram & Twitter: @beingbernz Follow Mike Vecchione on Instagram & Twitter: @comicmikev --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Did you ever contemplate quitting comedy? Suicide. Oh. Quitting comedy. Welcome to Burning in hell. I'm your host Hannah-Berner and welcome to the dark, dark depths of hell. Today, I'm with a very special guest, Mike Vecione. Yes, he is.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Italian, in case you were wondering, I've known him for a long time-ish. He's my sweet, sweet friend. Yes. Thank you for him. I'm not done with your intro. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. I'm looking at your bio. Let's start with... Can I talk now? No. He's appeared on NBC's Last Comic Standing. He won like a shit ton of awards with that. He's been on inside Amy Schumer. Conan. He's always on the Tonight Show starring Jimmy Fallon. He's probably going to be on again, so look out for that. Montreal is just for laughs. He's a pretty funny guy. Also, what makes our relationship complex, is that his best friend slash roommate, whatever, I dated, and we got very close. Yes, we got very close.
Starting point is 00:01:10 But then one day, the relationship ended, and then I never saw you again. That's the way it usually goes here in New York. I don't know where you're listening from, but that's the way it goes. So the only way I could see you and it not be weird is through business. through business and we're two businessmen you know that's right we're very business oriented um are we i think so i think we're uh competitive we are we're competitive but you more than me i think because you were at a higher level of competition than when i competed i was uh i was one of the guys you would just uh drill with to get i would get people like you better you know i mean that the a listers well those
Starting point is 00:01:52 people are important and thank you for coming in why are you being so nice to me call me an a lister immediately are you like warming me up no your tennis your tennis pedigree speaks for itself it's unreal and mike is a was a former wrestler former wrestler and i think wrestling and tennis are very similar because you're alone out there individual sports yeah you have to have a certain a lot of mental toughness for both and i also think that but then again you millennials wouldn't get that you're probably on snapchat right now turning yourself into a bunny michael when i first started this podcast you were fucking around in your twitter so don't come at me about Snapchat. Well, no, I have to market myself. I have to get these followers now. It's a new world.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Now you're on my podcast, so don't fuck it up and maybe someone will follow you. All right. Stand-up comedians. It's similar to wrestling or tennis as then you're out there alone. Right. You're out there alone. And it's nobody's fault but yours. You have to figure it out. It's true. You can't walk off there and be like, oh, well, some people try to blame the audience. I blame them. Yes, but deep down. Well, deep down, you're like, how can I flip this? You know what I mean? They're terrible. They are what they are. They're the, they're what they are. So now I have to change what I'm doing. So a recent episode I interviewed a big time DJ and I was asking him about performing anxiety
Starting point is 00:03:03 and stuff and he said, if you try to get everyone to like you in the space, it's going to be very difficult. But if you try to win over the people in the front, you'll see that their energy then becomes contagious. But I don't know if that's the same with comedy. Right. Well, it's not because those guys have ecstasy helping them from what I read. You kids are out there eating cat tranquilizers.
Starting point is 00:03:23 I don't even know what's going on in the clubs anymore. tired cats is that what you guys want to be now is that fun i love a tired cat it's pretty much my day to day i don't even know what's going that's high now i'm getting old i don't even know what's happening with the kids i remember when i went on my first date with my ex the roommate we um i had he spoke so mr x he spoke so highly of you and if you want to get in with the guy you gotta win over his roommate oh was that it was a strategy it wasn't genuine i i'm an athlete i'm a competitor i see the world is a game and I'm like who's the next guy got to take down so you come walking
Starting point is 00:03:58 in all innocent and that's why I went on a boat for your birthday not because you really wanted me to was that the weirdest experience no it was something else I wasn't going to go though I was like all right well you know I understand he's got to go or he's going to go and it's going to be fun for you and your friends
Starting point is 00:04:15 but it's like but you really made this heartfelt speech like hey you're one of my friends and I think that we're going to be friends for a long time and I would like you to come And I'm like, you know what? No, I can't deny that. Yes, I will come. And then we never talked again until right now.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Do you feel like... Betrayed? Do you feel betrayed by me? Yes. I had a hard time getting up here, too. I didn't know that we were going to be doing this in the World Trade. I thought we were doing it at your summer home. Anyone?
Starting point is 00:04:46 Are you watching Summerhouse? I don't know. Can we talk about this in the hot tub? Maybe you'll learn about some millennial stuff. and become educated on the current culture. I know when you invite people out to dinner, you should invite everybody out to dinner and not let some people cook at home
Starting point is 00:05:01 because then it's not very fun for them. Okay, so you just watched the first episode. Listen, I know about summer home, okay? People hooking up with other people. Fuck boys. You know, I don't know. I don't know how I feel about it. Would you ever do reality TV?
Starting point is 00:05:15 I don't know. I mean, I did a reality stand-up show. Last Comic Standing was so good. It was like before comedy was like fun and cool. on Netflix. Right. And you got semis twice, didn't you? Yeah, semi.
Starting point is 00:05:28 I have a semi right now. Ew, Michael. Sorry. Anyway, speaking of sex, when I was friends with you before our breakup, because I broke up with you, too. Honestly, I never got to have to even see you. Yeah. Would you have liked a nice, like, text, or would that be weird?
Starting point is 00:05:44 No, I wouldn't have been weird either way. Nah, I wouldn't have been weird. It would have been fine. It was fine that it didn't happen, though. Because I understand the nature of it. It's about, like, it's not like. I'm very, very close with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:56 We're very close, and I love him like a brother. Your brothers, I was about to say. Yeah, I love him like a brother. So it's, I understand the complexities of it on both ends. And I still say it to this day, most mature breakup I've ever seen in my life. Really, on both of your parts. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Very, very mature. Very, very, very clean, very, very, like no, but no anger, no kind of like, maybe there was underneath it all, but like on the surface it seemed like it was handled in a very, very mature. I was almost jealous of how mature it went. You know what I mean? There actually was zero anger involved because when you care about someone, yeah, there's no anger.
Starting point is 00:06:32 There was frustration, I think. But I just wanted to win you over to win him over, but then somehow... I didn't know I was a pawn in your game. But somewhere I started to... You know how you're like, fuck, I'm stuck with the room right on the couch while he's like taking a poop?
Starting point is 00:06:47 Well, I like enjoyed my time with you and I really got a friend and I really wanted you to come to my birthday that time. because I wanted to surround myself with people who are important to me. But it did suck that we broke up as well. But when you were with,
Starting point is 00:07:02 when I was dating him, you were single. Yes. You were actually, if I remember right, in kind of a dark time. Because I went through a breakup and it was every,
Starting point is 00:07:14 I tell you what, I've been in a number of relationships. Every one of them is hard to break up from, even whether I broke up with them or they broke up with me. It's hard on me because I'm emotional. and I give.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Which is healthy. Well, no, I give. Like, you know, I'm not like faking it. Like, I'm really in it. If I'm going to spend the time, I'm very much in it. So when it ends, I'm destroyed a little bit. Your very husband material. And you were kind of the third wheel who was single.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And I was like, I want Michael. I don't know if I was a third wheel, but I was there. I mean, when we're watching, I mean, I paid rent. We're watching Game of Thrones. You're kind of like on the outskirts. Yeah. I'm kind of endorn emotionally. That's good.
Starting point is 00:07:52 That was a good reference. It's a good one. It's pretty solid. Did you think we were going to make it? I thought I thought I would have to start looking for a place to live soon because I'm like I don't know first of all I didn't know I was being used as a pawn if he genuinely liked me so I'm a little hurt by that right now but um I thought oh this is she's great she's a great person he's fucking great I love him so this there's no way this is not going to go so I just
Starting point is 00:08:20 I was like dude just give me I told him I'm like just give me some time to find a place to live, you know. Yeah. So. Well, now, I have a studio apartment in Queens now. Oh, really? I'm in Hunter's Point. You left your old place, huh?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Left my old place in Midtown, Manhattan. Are you still in Astoria under the... Under the train? Under the train. We're still the same now. So we would watch TV and have to turn the volume up to hear something, but there's something beautiful and raw about that to make you, you know, have a little chip on your shoulder when you're on stage.
Starting point is 00:08:51 Yeah, no. I mean, we live, you know, the way that we live. we live like in a barracks we train like it's a dojo we live like it's an abarics and we both of us are like working class guys so like the money if it comes and it's going good you know it's good but we're not i'm not a material guy so you know it just is what it is whether i have a lot of money obviously i'll i'll better my living situation you know in terms of like material things incrementally as i need them but I'm not a flashy I'm not a jewelry guy like I'd like nicer clothes obviously I feel like if you wore a gold bracelet people would definitely think you're in the mafia yeah well I don't know there's
Starting point is 00:09:31 not that many people in the mafia anymore most of those people are in jail maybe it means you could like be a leader now like you can take over yeah well I'm from the Judeo-Christian kind of things like you should not murder people but nice thought Hannah I don't know just throwing out recommendations So you were a single. I'm learning a lot about you in this podcast. Were you really doing that? Were you really like trying to get to my good graces so that you could flip me? I love how we can't move on from this.
Starting point is 00:09:59 I can't move on. No, it meant that I wanted you to like me. Regardless if I liked you, I knew I needed to get you to like me. I didn't know you were that premeditated. I just thought you were a good person. No. You're not a good person? I'm very premeditated.
Starting point is 00:10:14 No, I think I'm premeditated as a good person. murder sometimes you'll kill you'll kill to get what you want exactly I have a killer instinct that's what my coach has said about me so watch you're back wow um
Starting point is 00:10:26 you were single and desperate at the time yeah I don't know about desperate you're putting words in my mouth right now I wasn't desperate there was some insecurity there because I thought the relationship was kind of gonna go and it didn't and okay
Starting point is 00:10:39 so now I have to pick up the pieces and my insecurity stemmed from online dating I'm not I don't like it I didn't like it We would swipe together, do you remember? I didn't like the nature of it. I didn't like the nature of, I really have a hard time handling the nature of the way that it is now, which is like you don't even see the person.
Starting point is 00:10:57 You feel like you're being tricked half the time. And then you start texting to the person. You had serious trust issues. Yeah, it was, it's trust issues caused by the nature of dating now. Well, we'd swipe together. And if the girl, like, wasn't showing one part of her body, he was like, I don't know what's happening there. We can't trust this. Or she'd say one thing like,
Starting point is 00:11:15 I like nature. And he'd be like, psychopath. She'd be like, I'm a teacher who likes to spend time on the beach. You were like psycho. Yeah, I just think it was like too many times of like, I'm like looking at the pictures. I'm like, they're doing this at a certain angle. There's a bunch of filters. Like, I know this is not real.
Starting point is 00:11:31 And I don't like to waste my time. So how the fuck did you get out of that kind of single spiral I like to call it where you know you start get, you're not motivated to go on dates? You kind of feel like everyone's going to let you down. Right. Starting to feel alone. I'm starting to feel like, are you the one with the problem, have to deal with your parents? We're in a spiral.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Well, no, I'm too old to deal with my parents. My parents have, they gave up a long time. Actually, my father died. That's how he gave up. Okay. And then my mother is still there, but they're like, they're not giving up. They're just like, whatever. It is what it is.
Starting point is 00:11:59 They know you're okay. You made it this far. Yeah, yeah, I keep coming. But, um... I bounce back motherfuckers. I bounce back pretty good. But now, uh, I don't know. I just, you know, you is going to sound corny, so you could make fun of it if you are.
Starting point is 00:12:12 You're going to say when you least expected. No, you meditate, you work on yourself, you meditate. It's not meant to be, life is not meant to be fun all the time and a party all the time. There's down times, there's down times when you're supposed to be alone. Those are the times you work on yourself to be a better person. Meditation, hot yoga, you know, hot yoga. Like you work out, get a good balance in life, work hard at your career, what you're passionate about. And then it'll come or it might not come.
Starting point is 00:12:39 You know what I mean? But like, whatever, maybe that's not meant for me. maybe that's not meant for me to be with somebody or whatever maybe I'm meant to be single for a long time well I like the idea of where you are is where you're supposed to be at that moment and people always talk about like if you're single it means you're searching
Starting point is 00:12:55 when it's like maybe it's healthy to be alone and be single at that time so you don't settle for someone where your mental state is at that moment and instead when you evolve yourself you actually get with the person that you're meant to be long term so how'd you meet this chick?
Starting point is 00:13:09 I knew her from stand-up comedy a long time ago so she was already in stand-up comedy i knew her but we didn't operate in the same circles but i remember her years ago i was i thought she was cute so i was like i asked her friend you know i was single at the time so i asked her friend i'm like hey how about her and she's like well let me check so she checked she's like now she's dating someone i'm sorry so i was like oh all right and i took the loss and uh then i just figured that she was always with somebody and then we were at Montreal over the summer in July and I found that she was not dating anybody so I made the move and it was like a because she's so like she was so nice and a hard worker and all this
Starting point is 00:13:55 stuff like and we knew each other from comedy as friends it took being like a little more bold to let her know like look I'm trying to fuck you like this is not like this is not like oh I want to help you with like let's look at our notes together and write like I don't like that Yeah, that's corny. We're not like, you're not tutoring her for calculus and then trying to, like, figure her. You got to have some balls, but you got to have some balls and go, look, I'm trying to fuck you. But then when you do that, you have to. Sacrifice the friendship.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Well, it's not just that, but you have to expect, you can't be bitter if it comes back as a rejection. If you go, look, I'm trying to fuck. And she's like, look, I'm not into that at all. You have to be okay with that. You can't be a bitch about it. Like, you took the step. She rejected you, and now you got to sit in it and take it and not be a baby about it. A lot of guys can't do that.
Starting point is 00:14:40 A lot of guys, and I understand why. They can't take it. They can't take it coming back. Do you have any words to millennial men? I feel like you're coming at someone right now. Look, I wasn't raised in this technology age, so it's a whole different doors open. And if I was raised with it, I'm sensitive. I'm a sensitive guy, so it would have affected me.
Starting point is 00:14:58 I can sit here and say, oh, this would have, all this Twitter and online bullying, this never would have affected me. It's like, that's bullshit. I know myself, and I know I'm sensitive, and I know what have affected me. You mean getting rejected content? I mean, that's, it made, like, I was doing it and it made me bitter. So it's like, I'm no better than anybody. You come from a good family. So it's like you have to kind of have a strong foundation, whether you get that from your
Starting point is 00:15:20 family or whether you develop it over time. That helps you navigate all of this technology and this fly-by-night stuff. Like, you have to have a good foundation in order to navigate it. How do you think she differs from girls you've dated in the past? Well, similarly to some of the girls I dated in the past, she's very smart and very pretty. I'm very attracted to her. So that's like... I thought you're going to say I'm very shallow.
Starting point is 00:15:42 I can only do the prettiest. I am just trying to get titty. That's, no. She's very smart. She's very, I'm very attracted to her. So that's like important, you know, right from the job. Do you think you've tried to make things work before with people you were kind of attracted to, but wanted, didn't want to be alone? Yeah, it was one of these things where it's like, yeah, I was, I was attracted to them, but it wasn't at the level that it needed to be.
Starting point is 00:16:07 also I feel like you just and I think that maybe I was like that for some women too like I was like oh this guy's a good guy and you know but maybe he's not what I need yeah you obviously because I've been dumped you want to feel like that person would do anything to touch you and be around you because it's like then we might as well just be friends right who have a great emotional connection unless you want to fuck me all the time right right right especially in the beginning where the dopamine is hitting if you're not fucking all the time there's something wrong wow sorry I'm passionate about that if you're not fucking like rabbits I don't care if you're 56 or 26 question yourself wow I didn't know you became a gangster rapper
Starting point is 00:16:47 the 20 minute mark do you like how she smells yeah we're getting to the creepy aspect of it do you ever collect her hair and put it in your pillowcase keep her panties but you know um now very pretty and and got a lot going and came from like a good family like good place and the way that she's approaching the business end of the comedy the way she's doing it is the right way to do it so speaking of comedy a lot of comedians put their foot down say i'll never date another comedian i did that you did do that i did do it yeah you did do you did absolutely you did so what changed you just were like i need to stop i saw her and i was like i have to take a chance i have to take a chance whether i'm too she's too pretty like i'm too attracted to
Starting point is 00:17:34 For people listening, I have to risk it. Why do comedians not date well with other comedians? There's a lot of reasons. It helps in a lot of ways because you understand each other's schedule and all that. But in another way, you're kind of running the same race. So it's like you're, but I'll tell you what's really helped me with that. Living with your ex has really helped me. It's a person I genuinely love who, when I moved in to the apartment, he was a waiter.
Starting point is 00:18:01 I had a special on Comedy Central. On Comedy Central. So you're running the same race with him. So, well, we're in the same field. And he's a guy who's approaching the business the same way that I am, which we're in it. We're in it full time, 100%. Are you in it? Minut.
Starting point is 00:18:17 We're in it. I don't know if I mentioned that. But it's like you love somebody and then you see them excel and deserve everything he gets. He deserves. He's the one guy where the industry is getting it right with him. It's unbelievable. Well, when you're that close to someone, you can see that. I think jealousy stems from when you just see someone on Instagram get something and you're like, that's not fair.
Starting point is 00:18:37 I work hard too, but you see his day to day. Yeah, but jealousy is the wrong word. It's almost like, he deserves everything he's getting. And I've had this one with my friend. He deserves it and God bless him. I want him to win. But I also want to win too. Like I'm putting in these hours and it's not opening up for me the way that it's opening up for him.
Starting point is 00:18:55 So jealousy is like, I want to tear this person down. They don't deserve it. That's wrong. He deserves it absolutely. but it's like you it's almost like a mirror being held up to yourself where it's like am I doing something wrong like why is this not opening up from me the way that it's opening up for him or just different people basically I felt like it was a tough time too because like I was dating him and his stuff was really hot at the time and I felt like he had a relationship
Starting point is 00:19:17 he had like these specials coming out and the TV show and I felt like you're constantly reminded that every day you walk into the apartment no matter how mentally strong you are you still can start getting because I know you're tough at yourself Because I'm the same way. Like, growing up as an athlete, you get criticized a lot, so the voice inside your head can be extremely critical. So, like, someone does something well, and you might not be jealous of him, but you're like, come on, what are you doing? Right. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:19:43 Yeah, that's exactly what it is. It's a reflection of like, okay, it's he's doing the right things and it's working out for him. Like, are you doing the right? They just to start looking at yourself more. It's like, are you doing the right things? It seems like you're doing the right things. And then it's. And he has so much belief in you too.
Starting point is 00:19:59 Right. So it's like, he would say, it's. if I was doing something wrong, he would help me. I would ask them. I would be like, look, do people think I'm a hack? Like I, I, I, you don't know. Sometimes you're not self-aware. So it's like you need that help where it's like,
Starting point is 00:20:13 what do you think? We would have like talks about you a lot actually because we both had a mutual love for you. So I'd be like, how's he doing? What's a strategy? What's going on? But I love being able to talk to you now. Like, I don't know, a year or two has gone by.
Starting point is 00:20:26 How do you think you've changed since I last met you? Well, I've been through that period and I've, I got to say something about the internet like the internet's very bad if you float towards the wrong things there's a lot of like if you're just drifting on the internet you can get dragged into a lot of negativity there's so many weird energies
Starting point is 00:20:40 that you don't need be very very negative even if you're just drifting through and you don't mean to fall you're going to fall into something bad and dark wormholes it's bad but the upside to that is there's so much information available
Starting point is 00:20:54 on how to better yourself mentally and spiritually and how the mind and the body are connected and all this stuff so I just focus on that keep hitting that and then i'm like look i'm in the position i'm in which is a good position actually you know what i mean and uh just keep trying to better yourself and keep coming and then wherever it lands it lands you know what i mean like it's almost like you have to let go a little bit and go like dude you can't control the result no you have to it's like in boxing if you're trying to throw a punch and you you squeeze as hard as you can the punch is not going
Starting point is 00:21:22 to hit as if you're loose and feeling and trusting your body trust the mental like stamina of it all But that's not to say don't try. Like, it's a thing, like, I don't know, in yoga, it's a thing where it's like, I'm not very flexible. I told you this before. You don't know. I'm not very flexible and whatever. But I try real hard in the class.
Starting point is 00:21:44 And that's really what the important thing is. See, because mentally you know how far you can push it. You're the one who knows. Well, we always bonded over yoga. I liked it because I was a beginner at it. And my whole life, I was doing things where people put so much expectation of me and there was so much judgment on the result. But yoga was.
Starting point is 00:22:00 this place that I got to have that beginner mindset, which is actually so beautiful that human people don't like being beginners. It's uncomfortable. It's weird. But with yoga, I would do things I'd struggle with, but actually have the satisfaction of improvement and not having to like hit a result. And I think if day to day you focus on that little improvement, you feel good about yourself because you know you tried, even if that trying was just getting out of bed when you're depressed. Yeah. I like that also the thing which I think I would have been a much better wrestler if I would have done it when I was wrestling. Because I was good for who I was. I wasn't the best athlete in the world, but I was tough. But it's being in the states where it's
Starting point is 00:22:39 like high stress in the class, your heart is going out of control and connecting to your breath and controlling your mind. That's important because it translates very well to life. There's going to be times, you know, where people are down on you and it seems like you're losing. And it's like you just take a breath and control your mind. When I was young, I didn't realize I could control my mind. I thought that once the court happened, it was just like things were happening to me and I was in survival mode. I didn't realize that if I could control my breath and if I could control my thoughts
Starting point is 00:23:10 that the result would change, I just thought it was happening to me because I wasn't mature enough to realize that my mind didn't have to control me. Yeah. I mean, that's a thing. I mean, I don't know. I was raised well and I think my parents did a good job It's like stuff like that
Starting point is 00:23:28 I mean I don't know You just learn that on the way I think But also that's why I want to have this podcast Is to talk to people and be like Hey I experience what it's like to not control your mind And then I learned how to it improved a lot of shit But there's a good thing like in it for women Because I know there's women out there
Starting point is 00:23:44 Who might be listening Who are like I'm frustrated in dating Like I'm not dating the right guys And I'm tired of it I'm tired of they're good people And they're strong people, but it's a thing where you have to make sure whether you're frustrated with your dating world or you're frustrating with your career. It's you have to do it for the sake of doing a good job and for your own self-satisfaction of doing a good job. You can't tilt towards bitterness.
Starting point is 00:24:13 And it's very, very easy to get bitter in those situations. So if you are one of those people who is getting bitter, like stop yourself and breathe into it and be like, there's no, it's not fair at work. there's no justice i can't like these guys are all morons like they don't like me for who i am they want something else you it makes you feel a certain kind of way but you're like don't be self-aware of that and don't tilt towards bitterness because the energy you put out in the world affects your interactions right like you might just be in your head about being bitter but that conversation in your head is actually like people will be affected by right and if you can stay positive and know that like you're trying your best you're doing your thing right that energy attracts people
Starting point is 00:24:52 Do you feel like your energy was in a good place when you met your girl? Yeah. Can you give me this moment? No, I was just going to be like, I'm just going to let it go. I'm just going to like, I was dating more than when, when you were around. I was dating more, kind of like, not really dating, but like, you know, whatever, hooking up. So I was in a pretty good place. You said you put yourself out there and you're like, men need to put themselves out there more.
Starting point is 00:25:21 What did you do? What was a line? I told her. I told her. I'm like, look, because we were friends. Was there a moment that you felt like you had an opening or you just like bulldozed it? I just bulldozed it because I'm like, we're just going to stay parallel as friends. And I'm not smooth. Did you feel any sense from her that she was, you're very smooth, Michael.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I'm not that smooth, but I'm like, I'd rather be clunky and honest than smooth and like kind of deceitful. At the end of the honesty will always come out better than being weird and manipulative. But it's a double-edged sword. because if you're clunky and honest and you get rejected, then you have to sit in it. And there's no way around it. Risk comes great reward. We're just doing random quotes right now.
Starting point is 00:26:02 That's true. Now who's on Twitter? Oh, you want to come at me right now? Actually, you guys were on Twitter and I'm like, these guys are fucking losers. And then I got a Twitter because for Summer House, they were like, you should get Twitter. And then I just started tweeting and it was fun.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And then I realized I like posting tweets rather than photos of myself and then the rest of history did you get a sense you should have a Twitter you have a lot to say I do I have a lot of thoughts
Starting point is 00:26:29 that need to be heard by a lot of Indian princes that follow me did you get a sense a little sense that she could be into it too or did you blind her friend told me
Starting point is 00:26:40 she was attracted to me so I got a big like her friends was like oh she's she's into it she's attracted to you oh okay so I was like oh I just assumed she always had I just assumed she had a boyfriend
Starting point is 00:26:50 yeah and they were like oh no And I was like, okay, well, I got to, I have to, and even then, it was like, it was, she wasn't giving me a flirty vibe. So I had to like, but I kind of like that. Because I feel like some of the girls you'd be with were because they'd just be like all over you. And you wouldn't have time to think if you're attracted to her. They just had tits in your face. With her, you, why do you think your personalities are compatible? Because I think that's important. I don't know how to describe it. We just get along very well as friends because it's as the, as the, sex you know it's inevitable that the sex is going to fade into something so you're just evolve evolve evolve evolve is the right word eventually it's going to fade it's going to whatever it's not going to be as exciting as it was so um that newness is going to so you're left there with a person and you have to genuinely like the person you have to be they always were a person you have to get along
Starting point is 00:27:47 be able to get along and be able to function I don't know I don't know what I'm saying I haven't been that far like I've never been married so well you've got quite the life just to like you were a teacher a special education teacher after college which I which I did enjoy you know what I mean like I was I was just talking to her
Starting point is 00:28:05 about it and I was like I approach it the same way I approach everything like I worked real hard at it a good relationship with my kids like tried to connect with the parents I love when you talk about your kids yeah I loved it you still remember so many of them yeah because they're on Facebook they're like hi Mr. Vick what's going
Starting point is 00:28:21 on mr veck did they come see your shows ever they did when i was in philly that's so funny and i my high school kids came to uh one of them but um it's great now on facebook they hit me up with messages hi mr veck what's going on mr veck how you doing mr veck why you not getting back to me mr veck why you not get back to me and then i get back to him and i'll be like uh it's uh frustrating when somebody's asking you a question and you don't answer right now you know how i feel then you realize that you hate all children and then you went into comedy is that what happened that's it now the comedy thing just happened uh i came out of a relationship another one that was that was a big one that was a one where it was like i thought we were going to get married and uh
Starting point is 00:29:03 i came out of it and i didn't think comedy was an option at the time so i came out of it just because it was more than you were like 24 or something yeah 20 25 26 and it just didn't seem like an option It's like, oh, this is too much running around for no money. Like, if I'm going to be in a functional relationship, like I have to bring home money and try to work on my career. Yeah, men have that pressure, I feel like, especially back then. Well, they did in the 90s when they were still men. I'm insulting all the millennial guys.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Men like guys have it very hard. I mean, they do have very hard now nowadays. I mean, this online dating, I can't get over. If you're like a good marketing person, if you're a good marketing person, then you're going to be good at it. But if you're not, then you're not going to be any good at it. But I'm also, like, kind of attracted to. to guys who have like no Instagram followers and don't know what like memes are like I like that I think it's hot if he's too into social media and like too techy and like into that
Starting point is 00:29:57 I don't I don't know I don't like that I don't want him to call you want to date somebody in their 50s I'm looking for a daddy I clearly have daddy issues I'm like you do my dad maybe a tennis coach oh god that would be so traumatic I'd be triggered by everything everything you said you want some water You never let me have water when I was tired in training as a kid. Did you ever contemplate quitting comedy? Suicide. Oh. Quitting comedy.
Starting point is 00:30:28 No, because it was such a gradual thing. I was teaching and then I was doing it. This is before YouTube and all this stuff. I was in Twitter. I was teaching and doing it at night when you could still do that. And then I moved to New York. When I moved to New York, I was like, I'm going to take a risk. So since being in New York, you've never had one moment where you're like,
Starting point is 00:30:44 this might not be for me. No. I fucking love that No because I was in New York Before I moved to New York I was like I'll either be crazy successful And this will work out Or it won't and I'll just get a job
Starting point is 00:30:55 Doing something in New York It'll be great, I'll live in New York And who cares But I didn't realize there would be this weird Inbetween phase Where it's like you'll be getting things There'll be periods of like Where it'll just still be improving
Starting point is 00:31:08 But you know Industry wise there won't be much happening And then you'll get a bump here A bump there It's tons of ups and down Even with someone who's very successful Like I learned from my ex Because he showed me how
Starting point is 00:31:20 No matter what success you have People don't talk about after you get what you want You think you should have How you cope with then the stuff that comes with it I know that sounds like Oh I'm really pretty Now I don't know what to do It's really life never stops at a goal
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah he's a good He's a ground up guy anyway So it's easier to handle that way You know what I mean When you have successes you're like you don't over it's like kind of like the thing where you've been there before it's like you've been there before dude okay you're getting some success here that's good like it's good enjoy it but take it with a grain of salt it's not the end it's not the on the best thing you can get I also feel like if
Starting point is 00:31:59 you put too much pressure on a goal you put too much hype in it like that's how I would self sabotage with tennis like I'd be playing a girl who's like the second seed and I would be like this is your chance this is your time and I would just like crack under the pressure but if you're more level-headed like I've done this before I've been this before this is a day at the office I'm going to play my best and move on I think I would have had better results to be honest stoicism I love that soicism is my shit I'm because I need that I'm the opposite of a stoic person I that's such a great it's such a great philosophy you know how are you different preparing yourself for stand-up versus wrestling wrestling I was clueless I was really bad in preparing myself for matches
Starting point is 00:32:38 I was really really bad and affected me loss-wise I took a lot of losses I probably shouldn't have taken because I just wasn't mentally there. But for stand-up now, it's like go out, take a breath, and then, you know, just let it go a little bit. Do you have a confidence in yourself in stand-up you didn't have in wrestling? I think it's a confidence that evolved over time, like as a man, like I grew as a person.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Because the guys who are naturally gifted, they have a much different experience than the people who have to work at it and take losses and take beatings and stuff. Those guys are actually above the fray, so they have a different experience. I'm not saying easier, but different. Mine was weird because physically,
Starting point is 00:33:13 I think I was I was top notch but then mentally I like you said why do you think I'm so good at Twitter because I have a shit ton of thoughts and the wrong thoughts would go in my brain all the time and I had so much trouble quieting my brain on the court because I would think of what would go wrong like before matches I'd go in the bathroom for 10 minutes because I thought was calming for me but I would just get into a thought spiral of all the bad things that could happen in this match and then like not want to go out but I would always go out right but those things made me the person and who I am and hell teaches that that shit. Yeah, you realize that you can control your thoughts.
Starting point is 00:33:46 You realize that you have enough of those where you're like, and if you can, that's why I'm saying, the internet is good, all this information is out there about your mind-body connection that wasn't there before. Yeah. You know what I mean? So you start listening to it and reading about stuff. You're like, oh, this is something that I can get a hold of.
Starting point is 00:34:02 And as a result, I can be a better person because of it. It is good to hear it. More effective. I like hearing other people's experiences that you can compare it rather than just like random articles that are like, webmd type shit but when people talk about their experiences and open up in that way it's beneficial that's why millennials are open about their anxiety and shit growing up were you allowed to talk about anxiety did you know what anxiety was yeah it was a it was a thing but it wasn't italians have a
Starting point is 00:34:27 shit ton of anxiety a shit ton and it comes from our parents and all that stuff like down our throats and stuff but um anxiety all the stuff it's good that it's being talked about it's much better than when i was growing up yeah in terms of being talked about there's also a a thing where there's an overcompensation for it too now, which is bad. It's bad and it's, there's a, there's a, um, you think people use it as kind of an excuse? Well, there's a coddling effect to it. The thing is I don't like is also, it's like they're using it and they're trying to medicalize it. Yeah. It's like it's not that, dude. It's not, you know. So, there's, you're thinking like I just read this book called, I just read this big pharma is trying to take advantage of the millennial mind.
Starting point is 00:35:06 I don't know if it's big pharma. I think that, um, I just read this book called the coddling of the American Mine by Jonathan Haidt. Cool. I love a man who reads. It's really, uh. Millennial guys don't read beside my Twitter. They just scroll my Twitter. They scroll.
Starting point is 00:35:22 It's not, it's less reading more scrolling. Strong thumbs. It talks about how like everybody has that argument, football, you know, these kids shouldn't play football, you know. I started playing football when I was nine and, um, which is probably why I had the mental problems I have. No, they always make that argument. It's like you shouldn't play football because of concussions.
Starting point is 00:35:38 It's like, all right, dude. I mean, I understand. that there's another side to it though and it's like physical contact really humbles you like when i was not i didn't walk around thinking i was superman because i knew that if i ran full force into another kid i felt what that felt like so i i would argue that's why you have a lot of these dumdums on twitter saying all kinds of mean nasty thing all this shit it's like you've never been hit before but do you think you've never been hit you've never been in a contact situation so you don't know there's ramifications for the things that you do do you think these people were always out there now
Starting point is 00:36:13 they just have the technology to say whatever they want to whoever they want i mean that's an aspect women never get to get hit sometimes like i never have gotten like smoked on a football field i think it's i think it's good been mentally abused i know but you came up through a um athletic system of training and the results yeah you have to having to deal with the results yeah but i just think it's good for young men to like play a contact i mean not for all not for all but for them to demonize it and be like contact sports are just a thing of the past like there's a function to it and it matters i wasn't i wasn't as athletically gifted like in my high school i went back and they're like they practice in shorts and um shoulder pads and helmets
Starting point is 00:36:56 during the week and then play the game i'm like that would have changed my football experience and we had to hit every day except for the day before the game we did walkthroughs but we had to hit And that changed my perspective Like I had to prepare for it every day These aren't the kids making that decision These are their parents who are like I don't know Like it's almost more your
Starting point is 00:37:17 Slash older generation That are treating the kids like this I don't know if because they were the first like corporate America That did well and they really want to make sure Their kids have the best possibility But the message The takeaway from this is if you're coddling your kid I don't know how many people you have
Starting point is 00:37:31 Have kids and listening What about pets? Like I coddle my cat butter It's all right with pets but if you coddle your kid i want to make a i want to make a very serious i want to make a very serious point if you're coddling your kid i'm very much against it if you're coddling your kid you're not doing him or her any favors you're you're setting them up for failure so if you're doing that and you're a helicopter parent and you're coddling your kid and and they're going to be like oh well what what what
Starting point is 00:37:58 you don't have kids like but i do have a master's in this and i did work in behavioral schools so i do understand it. If you're coddling them and many people are, you're making a mistake. You're crippling them. This is actually an important moment because I think the whole point of burning in hell this podcast is for people to listen to other people's hell and realize that it's actually the adversity in hell that they went through that made them who they are. And if you're constantly coddled and you don't deal with adversity, you don't fucking grow. You don't become the person you are and getting confidence. So thank you for setting me up for that. I've been manipulating you this whole time from the very beginning of meeting you in that apartment to make this statement
Starting point is 00:38:35 to help people. I didn't realize how premeditated you were. So premeditated. No, I knew. I knew you liked me the second you met me because I played D1 and you like love that shit. No, I love your competitive energy. I just didn't know it ran this deep. I feel like my ex had very competitive energy too. He does. He does. Absolutely. Do you, we were in like slightly different industries. You're in the same industry. Do you talk about careers with your girlfriend or do you try to like keep that separate no we talk about it yeah because it's part of your life you're part of your life and it's a big part like she's attacking it she's in it the same way that i'm in it the way that you're in it together now that like uh no no no i don't you're still separate
Starting point is 00:39:15 separate because it's an individual sport yeah but supportive of each other like she helped me with a big thing recently she probably knows how to deal with shit better because she's been through a lot of shit that you have yeah like even just dealing with a bad set yeah not that you've ever had one No, I haven't. You haven't. For your listeners out there. At Comic Mike V. This is where I do all my plugs.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Follow me at Comic Mike V on all social media. Now I'll stop me for a quick commercial break. Let's go to traffic. It is terrible out there on the FDR. And I'll tell you what. You want to talk about burning in hell. Tractor trailer overturned. Three lanes.
Starting point is 00:39:50 FDR. You're going to be there for a while. You're going to wish you were in hell. Let's go to weather. Anna. Are you done? Yeah. Okay, so we're going to finish with a final game.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Seven Deadly Sins. What are you greedy about? Eating, eating. Like, I'll try to eat everything on the plate just because I have a condition that way. Me too. And I'll eat it fast. Eat it fast, and I'll eat everything on the plate. And I watch other people, they pick at it, and they take a break, they drink a glass of water, and they don't eat as much.
Starting point is 00:40:28 When I have food in front of me, there could be any. anything going on, like a cat and a tree crying, and I will, no, I'll save the cat. But anyway. What about two men in a hot tub arguing over who they're going to have sex with that night or who they're going to try to hook up with? Summer Home. What do you think of me being on the show? Hashtag Summer Home.
Starting point is 00:40:46 What was your initial reaction? I want to know because I couldn't talk to you because that's inappropriate. Can I be honest with you? Yeah. I was like, I'm sorry, I don't insult any of the other castmates. I was like, Hannah's above this is really what I thought. Well, it's funny. Actually, my boss at the time texted me and said, I had higher hopes for you. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:41:07 Which was pretty brutal. Yeah. But at the time I was, you know what the entertainment industry is. It seems like an opportunity for me that they'd interviewed tons of people. Right. And the fact that they were offering me this and paying me. Yeah. And I kind of knew the cast.
Starting point is 00:41:21 It was already like I love going out to the Hamptons on the weekend. And I saw it as a platform to now. Are you worried about how they would make you look? They storyboard it? Honestly, I feel like from my breakup with your roommate, I did a lot of work on myself. And I felt like the first time I was very in touch with my intuition, my inner voice, and that I was just really comfortable with who I am. And I couldn't have done it a couple years ago.
Starting point is 00:41:46 I would have been too insecure about how I would be. I actually had a phobia. Yeah, I had a phobia of going on reality TV as in like some one thing would quickly happen and everyone would judge me by that moment. It was kind of an obsessive thing I've had. Even meeting people, I'd try to impress them really quick. Like, they had to know who I was in that five-minute intro. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:04 But I found this calmness in myself recently. And I just felt like I want to go on not, I wasn't trying to be perfect by any means. I want to show my imperfection. Right. And if they, I can't be the villain if I'm just being authentic. Right. So as long as I wasn't the villain and trying to hurt people, which I knew I wouldn't, I was like, this is just a fun, cool experience.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Like trying to get them on a boat for your birthday? You mean like that? I'm so. Men. Manipulative. You're very manipulative. No. Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:32 So you saying that if you're using it as a stepping stone to something, I would say, yeah. Because I think that you're, you have a lot of, you're a deep, good person. Thank you. And I don't think that that platform lets you. I don't think it portrays that in you. I think it portrays a very superficial, which is, it's, yeah, it's what they want to do. I am trying to break that stigma. of going on TV and then becoming that like person that everyone just aspires to be like in your perfect self all the time or people laughing at you trying to be perfect and instead I just was like this is me yeah people are struggling people are suffering so if you can give them some advice on how to help them to power through or to even even enjoy it like even enjoy it and I've always wanted to do that it was always in me but now it's given me a platform where people like will reach out to me and I they'll listen to me right and I feel like I can have an effect on people but also what you said in the beginning every day
Starting point is 00:43:28 when I'd film, I just, like, deep down, felt like I was trying my best. Like, I was trying my best to be myself and do my thing. As long as I knew that, I was fine with the filming. Is that why you went topless in the hot tub? Damn it! No, I went topless episode 10. So, yeah, I'm greedy about food, too. We spiraled off, the deadly sins. We spiraled it. I'm greedy about food, yeah. Are you trying to eat cleaner? Italians. Well, we crave bread and pasta, olive oil. Love it. I'm hungry. Yeah. Let's go get some pasta after this.
Starting point is 00:44:02 We're such stereotypes. Who are you envious of besides me? I don't know if I'm envious of. I see people's lives. I'm like from the outside because you don't know what kind of problems people have underneath. You see people who are successful and you're like, oh, I'd like that level of success. I look at it kind of like, oh, I'd like that level of success. But in my mind, my arrogance, I would be like, I know how to handle that lifewise.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Like, you know what I mean? Like you see people at a level of success, but it doesn't. It doesn't seem like they know how to handle it like in terms of taking in stride in life, realizing what the important things are. They seem to be. And it's very easy to get seduced by that. But you're like, oh, no, if I had that success. And it could be, I could be wrong. Maybe they have that success because they literally don't understand the little things that will make them happy.
Starting point is 00:44:46 So that's all they can try to do. They say on social media, people who post photos in their relationship tend to be the most insecure about their relationship. Yes, I believe that. It's like when you're posting successful photos of yourself, you're putting it into the world for a reason. Why would you post a photo of you on a private jet traveling? Because you're trying to manipulate people's minds to think that you're busy, which probably means you really are insecure about how busy you are. There's a hole in your heart. You're trying to fill it with pictures of you being on a private jet.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Do you know that in L.A. there's this thing where you can rent out an hour and sit on a private jet and take photos. Really? So you look like you have a PJ? That's amazing. I'm sorry I'm using my L.A. voice. That's amazing. What you just said is fire and it's amazing and it's lit. What do you gluttonous about besides food?
Starting point is 00:45:40 I'm not a big... I like to have money, but I'm not a big money guy. I guess sex. I like, you know, sex with a person I care about, which probably sounds corny to your listeners. No, not at all. But yeah, I'm going to be in to somebody and it's like, yeah, all the time.
Starting point is 00:45:55 Let's go. Let's do this But then how could you have ever dated someone You weren't like crazy wanting to fuck I don't think I ever have You know what I mean? I don't think I've ever dated It's never been it's never been
Starting point is 00:46:09 It's like Sex for me is It's intensity Like it's ratcheted intensity Yeah I've heard it I've heard it Yeah so so We used to joke
Starting point is 00:46:23 We'd hear like banging and screaming and screaming and yeah but I like I really like that so in order for that are you ever like soft and gentle yeah soft and gentle but there's like different you know ebbs and flows of it yeah it's like the waves yeah of the ocean it's like the waves it's high tide you know there's a lifeguard out there's a red flag swim at your own risk type situation you can't fake any of it you can't I don't like there's no faking it and I don't know how other guys are but like I don't like being disassociated with it in having sex like that's pointless to me that's why i don't like
Starting point is 00:46:59 random sex because i'd rather just masturbate than have a guy masturbate with my vagina and like you don't it doesn't feel good because he doesn't know your body and you have no connection with him you can make it up in your head yeah but why don't just make it out in your head with yourself and actually come but even if it's a one night stand or something like that it's like a thing where like the good one night stands that i've had has been like kind of like an agreement it's like let's just let it go and um fun with each other you know like have fun with each other and those there's a vulnerability in that and vulnerability i think is what makes sex good but mostly it's like somebody you know when you establish something something with and it's like you can really just let
Starting point is 00:47:37 it go and you're right it is vulnerability like you're letting it you're just letting it go i've had people who i like thought i was emotionally connected i didn't know why but i wanted to be around them a lot um but i only fuck with dudes like six two and up but this one guy was less than six two yeah It's tragic. Tragic. But, and I was like, I'm not. Can you believe there's even people not killing themselves, guys who are less than six, too? And I was like, I think I might be attracted to him.
Starting point is 00:48:06 I don't think so, but I'll try. And because I was so obsessed with his personality and how he carried himself, I became so attracted to him. And I want to take it back. Nothing against guys. But I, like, in my head was going through this disassociative phase with dudes where I didn't want to get emotional. So just objectifying all of them. I was like, only six to you, that's letting go to the book. And it made girls laugh and make guys very mad at me.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Well, for those of you listening, I'm 5-8. Are you 5-8? Yeah. So when I got in here- When I got in here, Hannah, was like, how many phone books do you need to get up to the microphone? Mike, is that why you spike your hair to get an extra two inches? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Is that true? Are you ever going to change your hairdo? I don't think so. I tried to do like a footh thing. I just don't like it was much. I could see you like Great Gatsby-esque. I don't know what that is. You know what Chris is Stephanie does his hair?
Starting point is 00:48:57 Yeah, but my hair is thicker than Chris's. And you can tell him I said that. No, my hair, I've been blessed to have thick hair, so there's only like so many things I can do with it. You do. For those of you ladies who would like to see what I look like and gentlemen, I'm on Instagram at Comic Mike V. Sorry, are we going to do plugs anytime soon?
Starting point is 00:49:15 I do it at the end if they last that long. But I think that your Instagram is great because you interview your little cousin, who I fucking love, the, like, the older one. I think. Luca. Luca. I Italian shamed him.
Starting point is 00:49:26 I Italian shamed him. It was great. I love when you shame your family because they're all like, Mike, shut the fuck up. And you're getting the biggest kick out of it. When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath? Oh, I got into an argument with a friend of mine, a friend of ours. We all know him. And I got into an argument with him.
Starting point is 00:49:49 And I, that's a good question, because I remember feeling so very, Biciously angry. No, no, no, no, not. We never, we, when we have a problem, we, first of all, we rarely have problems, but if we do have when we talk about it. Yeah. Like you guys could get married if you wanted to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:06 Your bathroom's fucking disgusting. Do you still have a hundred shampoo bottles in your bathroom? Yeah, but that's, we have a lot. From girlfriends past. All right, we enjoy a lot of options for people when they come to the shower. They're all crusty and old. I will, I was, oh, I wanted to just throw it all away, but he was like, Mike's going to get really mad.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Mike will get really mad if you throw it away. And I'm like, that pisses a lot of, like a lot of girls that get pissed off of that. Yeah, it's like a weird power move by you. You're like, you could be replaced by any of these shampoo bottles
Starting point is 00:50:33 in any second. What were you mad at the friend about? I felt like he was trying to bully me and it made me, I mean, I didn't felt that way. Had you done this in the past before? He has that aspect to his personality.
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah. So, I know who you're talking about. And I love him. I love him. So it hit me the wrong way. And I felt like a viciousness. You were defending yourself.
Starting point is 00:50:55 That I haven't felt in a long time. Did you have to like alpha and show like, I'm no one to be bullied? You know, we ended up having to talk about it. We ended up having to talk about it. That's all. It just ended up. Were you able to be calm in the talk? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:09 Because it was days later. It was days later. And to his credit, he called me. But on the phone, when we started to get, we started to get chippy, it, it escalated. And then I took it actually, I could feel it in my gut. It took me over. I hate getting chippy. Like, I hate losing or cool and becoming in, like, a sour place with people, because I'm very sensitive, too.
Starting point is 00:51:31 Yeah. I always try to keep it as light or calm as possible. But I do snap on Summerhouse at the very end. I snap. I have to watch. I mean, it's might win an Emmy this season. When was the last time you were a sloth? What's a sloth?
Starting point is 00:51:46 Lazy. Oh, lazy. Yesterday. Really? Yeah, yesterday. Because I'll tell you what happened. And my brother came into town. He's on business.
Starting point is 00:51:52 he has a family he's like works so hard so he came in we went to a spot we went to a diner afterwards um and then we went to a cigar bar which was a mistake it was a huge mistake because the ventilation wasn't good and we smoked cigar and had two bottles of wine and then i went home the next day i woke up throwing up that's yesterday yesterday i woke up vomiting alcohol i can't do it was brutal i think the place you look skinny today though port ventilation thank you i did go to yoga i went to yoga Hot yoga to detox. Cool. Because I felt like garbage.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Do you ever go to the yoga room? No. There's one in a story. I know Bickram. Bickram yoga. Do you ever get sick of it? I don't go that much. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:35 I talk a lot of shit, but I don't go that much. I did yoga for like two years straight and then a year I couldn't do it. And now I'm back into it a little. But I think it makes me, I look better. I feel better, but I also look better. Yeah. Physically, my skin looks better when I do it. When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something?
Starting point is 00:52:51 I think in this business sometimes people will ask you to do stuff and I don't know if it's pride but it's like now I'm worth more than that so no I think you should Yeah so I don't know if that's a pride pride Like you're using it is a bad thing But in that situation it's like
Starting point is 00:53:06 No I'm worth more I'm not gonna be I'm not gonna be I think it's being honest with yourself Like in the beginning of my career I was freelancing for no money Because that's what I was worse And but then once you start You have to know when to switch things I also one thing I'm learning about this industry
Starting point is 00:53:21 is everything's negotiable, which as a woman, you're taught to just kind of be caring and a caretaker and not like say, I want more. You're supposed to be like easy going and not like take up too much space.
Starting point is 00:53:33 So for someone to be like, oh, can you do this for $500 and me to go? No, $1,000 was like the scariest thing ever. Yeah, yeah. But then I saw how like managers and agents do it like in their sleep. Right. But the other side of that is be willing to take the loss.
Starting point is 00:53:49 Exactly. You have to realize it's, It's a game that you're not always going to win. So this is our final question. You're doing amazing. Thank you. When was the last time you lusted over someone? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:54:01 My girl, when we met, I lusted over her. Like, I lusted over her because I asked her. I wanted to sleep with her immediately. Okay. And she put the, she was like, no, we're not doing that. You tried first night? Yeah, yeah. Like, well, I knew her.
Starting point is 00:54:16 So I was like, hey, we should, you know, we're in Montreal. Did you just want to see if the sex would be good? sex I didn't foresee a relationship even I just want to have sex like I was like but you wanted a girlfriend so bad so why were you going in no no no I wouldn't I don't say I wanted a relationship I've learned over the years that you don't do that you know you don't want to relate I didn't want a relationship so bad I just you see how it plays out you always see how it plays out because you start planning for that and then it's like oh this is you get lost in who the person actually is yeah if you come with that mindset like I want this to go you start projecting your own feelings on
Starting point is 00:54:50 onto them and it's like oh this is not who this actually is you are so right also i have a theory that i've been right a lot on this podcast by the way i'm honestly impressed i thought you were going to fuck up the whole time i think that you could have sex at any point and if it's meant to be you can't fuck it up i know people have had sex first date and they're dating or married you can't plan how it's going to perfectly work out right to wrap this up is there a special um burning and hell wrap up there is and it's a question how do you cope with your hell that's a good one it's a good one And there's a lot of, there's a lot of wrong ways to do it. And the right way to do it is to face it head on, like get the real issues and face it down instead of like...
Starting point is 00:55:31 Putting it in your back pocket. Putting in your back pocket or a lot of people are doing this now because of social media and because of the world that we live in. And I understand it. They're taking their feelings of insecurity, negativity, bitterness, and they're extrapolating them out into a socially acceptable cause. And they're coming at this cause. They're not coming at the cause with a pure heart. They're coming at the cause with a level of bitterness that is, that the cause has nothing to do with the actual cause.
Starting point is 00:56:01 So they're projecting their problems onto that. Yeah. People have a hard time looking at themselves in the mirror and being like, okay, what, this, I'm so behind this and protesting this and that. It's like, what's going on inside of me? And where is this coming from? It's coming from a good place of like a balanced, even keeled place of like when with those kinds of things, you're not just going to one more. You're doing things like you're not trolling people on Twitter for domestic abuse jokes.
Starting point is 00:56:31 What you're doing is you're gathering coats and you're getting them to a woman shelter to help them. So you're doing things not on social media. You're doing just things. And that's how you get real confidence in yourself. And that's how you really learn about yourself, not based on how many. likes that photo god that doesn't teach you by yourself you just doing it without people know it's like practice my dad would always be like practice when no one's looking and that's where you get the confidence yeah that's the same thing i don't want to get too deep but train and don't tell anyone
Starting point is 00:56:59 or like when prayer and stuff like the people who are praying like in front of every like you can you can pray on the subway you can pray you know like in your own in your own head in your own space you don't have to announce it there doesn't have to be a meme about it you know what i mean you okay don't bring me don't bring means into it not bring means into it it's a point of contention you like my memes you haven't been liking my shit in social media but i'm not i don't think it was for me though it's it's for younger people i feel like but i want my humor to be understood by the masses i don't want it to be too niche i feel like there's some things that you could laugh at there's some things that you could compare your life too i'll make a fucking
Starting point is 00:57:43 italian no i feel like it's a lot of dating it is a lot of dating it's like a lot of younger person dating stuff yeah it's a lot of single woman single and there's stuff there is stuff that translates over to life i love how i'm manipulating you to give me a compliment right now um no but i feel what you're doing thank you i appreciate your support i appreciate your honesty you're always vulnerable vulnerable i think you're the realest in the game let's be honest um mike vecchio and follow him where on instagram it's at comic mic b on all social media platforms twitter instagram can i plug my podcast of course honey i have a podcast called no disrespect can you be more excited when you say i have podcast. I mean, this week on Summer Home, an older man shows up and grabs Hannah Burner out of the
Starting point is 00:58:26 brunch. You've had one too many mimosas, burner. My podcast, everybody, is called No Disrespect. It's on the gas digital network and available on iTunes. That's no disrespect. And you could find me on all social media platforms at Comic Mike V and my website, Mikevecion.com for live dates. got shows coming up all over New York City. Check them out. Don't get him confused with a hockey player named Mike Vecchio on the Eagles. Or a district attorney. No, he's on the Philadelphia Flyers. Okay. Well, there's a lot of Mike Veckeons out there. Now you know. And also, exciting news is I have a Burning and Hell Facebook group now called Burning and Hell Little Devils, because I decide y'all are my little devils. That's great. And it's a place for you guys to talk shit, because that's
Starting point is 00:59:12 what we love to do. Thanks for coming to hell, guys, and I will talk with you later. Bye. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha ha ha.

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