Berner Phone - Robby Hayes: The Sex Tape & The “So’" Moment

Episode Date: September 18, 2019

Hannah ran into Robby drunk at a bar the night before and asked him to come to hell. He agreed and probably regrets it now. He talks about how he believes being able to fall in love on reality tv, his drama with Amanda Stanton, if it’s all a PR stunt, how he responds to DMs, what’s actually happening with him and Scheana, dating a on girl on Siesta Key, why he dates so many reality tv stars,  the sex tape drama with Lindsey Christley, how he met Lindsey, how he deals with hate online, how his parents feel about his career,  he admits to using FaceTune, he explains his hairstyle, the company he started, his eating crisis after his swimming career, his workout routine, and how he handles his demons.--- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Wait, so you're saying you don't have demons? Don't have many demons. Yeah, well, I'm going to tear your ass apart. Welcome to Burning in Hell. We're at Burning in Hell. It's hot in here today because we got an Atlanta boy. You're from Atlanta, right? Yeah.

An Atlanta boy, Robbie Hayes. Welcome. What's up? Robbie has been on every reality TV show known to man when you were young did you envision yourself being on TV one day no no no no I grew up in a very I went to Catholic school till senior year of high school I weren't high till senior year my graduating class was like 140 very close-knit family and I was just going to follow the whole 8 to 5 get into the whole network of it we do 9 to 5 here but 8 to 5 is intense um and uh have the degrees for it and

then you know my life got what are your degrees because a lot of people think you're just like dumb and hot what are your yeah that's i can thank the bachelor for that former former competitive swimmer i never made a dime swimming i just did it because i was good at it paid for school and i enjoyed competing do you think you were a fish in a past life no but if i could be an animal a dolphin would be up there they're pretty badass yeah they're like that was my dolphin noise i'm a little congested Normally it's not the type of AMSR. Do you believe in past lives? Yeah, to an extent.

I mean, I want to, and there's no reason for me not to. Do you believe in soulmates? Yes. That was quick. Yeah. I mean, it could be just how I was raised. Do you believe that you can fall in love on a reality TV show? Yes, I have.

To who? To Jojo. You know what's how funny? I fucking missed that season. I'm so mad about it. How do you watch it? Like, I can't find it. I haven't watched it.

season since mine. So, so let's just, let's, can I tell the people about my degrees that you didn't let me finish? Oh yeah, sorry, I actually didn't care, but I asked just, I was kidding. Tell me your degrees, you fucking nerd. Undergrad. Undergrad, double majored in finance and real estate, had a minor in Spanish, and then went back and got my master's in finance. Okay, so. Focus on corporate investing. It should have put me up here in Wall Street, but the TV called. It's crazy. You're in Wall Street right now. We're at Spotify headquarters downtown. It's actually at the World Trade, but you're here talking about your demons on burning in hell because you've been on so many reality TV shows which makes me because I ran into you drunk at a bar last night true so the way this happened

I actually so I'm very good friends with Jordan Vroy people don't know this but he actually we met on like a tennis shoot he got me hired for betches I was like part of him getting on summer house we have a long relationship he's like my brother I love him to death he helps everyone and anyone he's the connector he's a networker he's inspirational he's a hustler he's a hustler And he always is like, Robbie, Robbie, Robbie. And I was like... So we have baby pictures together in the bathtub at eight months old. We lived in Florida together.

Then our families both ended up moving to Atlanta. And then we went on and did our college thing. And now you're both on reality TV shows. I was trying to get him on The Bachelor for a few seasons before he hit Summer House. Do you think he would have been good on it? I think it would have been great. Smooth Talker, good family. I think it would be great.

Yeah. You were on Jojo season of The Bachelor. Yes. Then you were in Bachelor in Paradise. which I did watch with Amanda Stanton. Yes. That had some drama. There's always drama.

Do you feel like you're a dramatic person? No, reality TV is dramatic. It's got to be. Otherwise, you don't watch. I feel like you're kind of a professional, though, at like, the after drama. Like, the show's over, and there's all this other drama. Like, you need to, like, I don't know what you're doing, but it's good PR. The media.

The media loves it. The media loves it. He's blushing right now. I remember when I was working at Betches and there was, like, a picture of you with your arm around another girl, and people were losing their mind. They were like, this isn't Amanda. That was the Amanda thing.

This isn't Amanda. How did you feel when the media started to like kind of go against you? I knew that was going to come out, and I knew that the whole time. You know, Bachelor in Paradise is a show where if you don't have someone, you're gone. Yeah. And it's a day rate. You're trying to stay. So, oh, that's crazy.

So Amanda and I partnered up. We got together. There were some feelings there for sure at one point. Do you like blondes of brunettes? I don't really have a preference. I like to put guys in a box. I tend to settle down more with brunettes, but I tend to have flings with blondes more. Every girl in my family is brunette, so that might be where it comes from.

Yeah, but then I think you have that southern bell in your head of like the fun blonde girl. And Amanda Stan was a little sweetheart. Is she like a pocket size? Yeah, she's tiny. She's tiny. She's adorable. Yeah, she's a very pretty girl. Did you think that you could fall for her?

like did you see long term with her I didn't see long term but I'm I'm also the guy that's not going to push something great aside just because it landed in my lap and I wasn't ready for it you know yeah people are like so are you dating I'm like yeah I mean I'm not going on two dates a week yeah like if

if someone comes and down it hits me a message and you know we kick it off that's great oh so you respond to DMs people sometimes oh look at you look at you're wild I actually respond a lot especially if they're compliments I like to like respond thank you and like I love connecting with people in the DMs.

So when someone approaches you on Bachelor in Paradise and you're trying to hit it off, is your first thought they want to stay on the show? Not necessarily. I mean, I think that's kind of something you resort to. It's like, oh, like, well, I saw you talking to the first two over there and they're all wiped up now. Now you're coming to me. I see where this is going. Do you think your past in sports helped your performance with reality TV? No.

I mean. Like you're competitive. And you're strategic and you know how to focus and you're good at performing. Maybe, especially my sport. Because swimming, you need some patience because you just sit around for one race. And swimming solo. It takes 25 seconds and that's your day. True.

It's kind of like going on an interview. You have that one line to. That's it. Yeah. Look what we did here. You're learning new things in hell. About myself. So let's break you down.

After Bachelor in Paradise, did you want to do Bachelor ever again? No, I didn't. And actually, I did do Bachelor in Paradise again. wait so you didn't want to and then you did it the next season yeah the next summer but um i gave them like ridiculous exclusivity um contractual obligations to meet as well as compensation like you had have a case that made for you every morning when you woke up necessarily that but i can hop off and do whatever show i wanted right like they don't own me for six months after so i had all these things written out to my entertainment attorney and i had no expectations for them to meet them and

agreed to him. And then I'm on a Rebella trip or second trip to Cayman Islands with just me, a photographer and three models. And I have to leave in the middle of trip because I get called into Paradise and not to be there the next day. Wow. So they signed it and agreed to it. I was like, wait a second. Really? Would you say Paradise is fun? So I was there for 36 hours. I was the last person to enter. Oh yeah, you showed up. And the next morning it ended. Wow. But do you think Paradise is fun? Paradise is fun. I like the Bachelor out better actually. Why? And a lot of people wouldn't say that because there's only one girl and it's a lot of downtime but because the places we got to go like I spent two weeks in Argentina yeah spent two weeks in Thailand do you still stay in touch

with bachelor people uh yeah I mean I lived with Chase for about a year and a half after our season and now I live with Jeff Holm who won season eight out of L.A so there is kind of a family like you all have gone through the same stuff me to Mario Josh Murray Chris Randone we have a fancy football league we're all in who's winning it after week one this guy you hear that boys okay a lot of trash talking that's their fantasy leader after one week way like this don't get ahead of yourself i know right hey i better enjoy why i know so then what's next for you you went on vanderporn yes so sheena and i got pretty close she's just a super dope girl like she's what do you like about sheena she's a bro i don't feel like i have to entertain her i don't feel like

she's on her phone the whole time i'm just kidding i like sheena i'm friends of sheena she's great um I'm sorry. Oh, it's okay. She's just eating beef jerky into the mic. I'm hungry. He's hungry. I'm hungry. You could have had a snack beforehand, but it's okay.

So she and I got close, and then she had her single season, and she started doing things with Adam, Spot, who I also grew up with, in school with. In Atlanta? In a, no. Well, he lived in Atlanta after college, but we went to Florida State together. Oh, cool. Yeah, so Sheena was like, they might. might want to bring you on for like a date to be quick maybe like you know a quarter of an episode sure i mean it's basically just an appearance please there was no contract there anything yeah just

going on there for her did you care at all that adam had been seeing her or is more just like she needed your support yeah it wasn't really ever romantic between sheena and i but you just love playing tonsil hockey yeah she a good kisser great kisser so like she kissed carl which means like you almost kiss carl yeah technically you've i mean i mean Kiss. Yeah, it's an Eskimo kiss brothers. So then your latest endeavor is you're dating a girl on Siesta Key. Well, yeah.

Because we saw a photo. I did do some filming for Siesta Key this summer. Did you, how did you meet her? I actually met her at Stagecoach Festival. Stage coach is where it all goes down. Stage coach, rage coach. Stage coach is where like STVs get created. I had talked to her a couple times before that because we had a lot of mutual friends.

The first time we actually hung out, spent time together with stage. Why do you think you're connecting with so many reality TV girls? Because you could choose from any, like, women to date. There could be, like, a lawyer, there could be, like, a producer. Yeah, sure, and there are outside girls. I mean, no. You're like, honey, I have tons. No, I'm just saying.

Those girls just don't make the headlines. It's all it is. Really? The one girl I've been closest with since Jojo season lives in Georgia, a small town girl grew up in Savannah or Tallahassee, went to school in Savannah. How did she feel about your lifestyle? She doesn't like it, but for some reason she puts up with it. You think you might ever settle down with a family in Atlanta?

100%. Really? Yeah. You don't see yourself, like, being in L.A. and like... No, L.A.'s temporary. Doing like a hidey, spitey type thing. I don't want to raise a family in L.A. And my whole family's in the east.

Yeah. So when I move back, my favorite cities are Nashville or Atlanta. Very cool. I've never been to Nashville. You've got to put that in the list. I have to travel. I'm such a dumb New Yorker. You've been to Austin? Nope. It's similar.

Okay. This is good. Now I'm learning new things. I never thought I've learned anything from you. I'm going to ignore that. So what was your biggest fear of going on reality TV? I didn't really have one at The Bachelor. Bachelor in Paradise, the biggest fear was, you know, it's a gimmicky show.

It's cringy. You know, they put you in those situations and they exploit them. Yes. So that one I was a little more nervous as how I would be portrayed. I thought it was portrayed great on The Bachelorette. once that was all set and done. But now the only thing that makes me nervous is my mom on social media. What does she do?

She reads all my comments. Does she respond? I still have my notifications on for comments because she'll be like, oh my God, Brittany XOXO called you a bag. Delete her, block her right now. What is your biggest insecurity physically in general? One of my biggest pet peeves of myself is I bite my nails and I hate it. Why do you bite your nails?

Stress. You know what? It used to be a nervous thing when I was swimming and competing. I'd always catch myself, like, right before the race started behind the block, like, but now I just don't even realize I do it. Yeah. It's like, it's not a nervous thing. It's not an impatient thing.

I'm just, before I look down, I'm like, oh, I didn't even realize I did that to myself. The fans want to know why you shave your chest. So does my mother. She's always like, Robbie, you're a grown-ass man. That hair is supposed to be there. I like a hairy chest. Are you, like, very hairy if you let it. go. Yeah, that's good. I get hairy, but the reason it's shaved a lot is because photo shoots

sometimes they require, especially in like fitness industry. Are you insecure about anything emotionally, like your personality? Not necessarily. If there's any, and I wouldn't even call it insecurity, but in reference to my emotions and how I let them run wild, I do wear them on my sleeve. And, you know, like I said, if something great comes by, I'm going to jump at it. I'm not going to be scared to jump in and, like, got my toes in first, you know. You seem like a pretty chill guy, But you're saying you can be passionate. Oh, yeah. Okay, I'll trust you.

Last night was fun. I saw you or jinkin, where whatever. I'm like, come on my podcast. And you were like, oh, are you going to try to ask me about the sex tape? You shouldn't have said that to me because I actually didn't even know about it that much. I'm sure this morning. I straight up was like, what is going on? So I did my research.

What the fuck is going on? It is such a mess. It is such a mess. How did you meet Lindsay, Chrisley? If anyone knows, there's Chrisley knows best. The dad is in trouble. for tax evasion and he has a daughter and somehow robbie hayes of course because he's not enough reality tv shows how'd you meet lindsay lindsay and i met at an event in atlanta i thought you're

gonna say stagecoach it would have been so funny no i don't think she's ever been an event in atlanta okay and you hit it off so it's hard for her to go to festival oh yeah so do you like being the zaddy um now i mean i have not met linds i met amanda's but okay so lindsay and you were like hooking up or whatever it was it was probably a two-month Fling, nothing that was ever very serious or committed, but we enjoyed hanging out when we were in town together. Both had a lot of similar friends in Atlanta growing up there. Went to a lot of the same places and, you know, nothing led to another. And she has her own family beef and you're kind of in the middle of it now.

Yeah, she's been distancing herself and kind of removing herself from the family for like the last three years. Does she not like being on TV? She just didn't like where it went, I think. I don't want to speak for her. Yeah. But I know that there's a lot of. of outline factors even outside of television. It's not just TV.

So if anyone doesn't know what's going on, apparently she said that the dad and the brother threatened to release a sex tape if she didn't lie about something to defend them or something. And the sex tape is with Robbie. I love that that was your ending statement. Like they weren't already referenced that this was Robbie's sex tape. Because Robbie can't control where he puts his dick.

But, um... Listen, we all do it. What's the, we all know, yeah, what is, you said there, what is the deal with it? Like, what, what was? I can't say too much because it is an ongoing investigation. You're so professional. I love it. But, you know, this isn't the first time that we've heard about this tape. You know, two years ago, when her and her best friend had a falling out, the best friend who's puppy camera caught us on her living room couch. It's like a security camera. So it was a puppy camera. Yeah, it's, you know, I'm not sitting there with a camera like, oh, baby, get the angle, get the angle. That's some ragey shit. Yeah, exactly. you were a little too good at just doing that unfortunately the listeners don't get to see my hand motions

I know that's okay there's a puppy cam in here so hey grab the security footage but like in my mind if that came out that would debunk it all it'd be like okay this black and white barely can see you know security footage

also isn't that like illegal to next time it's called revenge porn yeah so that's why it all came out is because she filed a police report when she heard that they bought it. It had never come out. So this was two years ago you guys hooked up? Yeah. This was right after my season, like 2017.

Oh, wow. Yeah, so her and her best friend had a fall in a house. Do you use condoms? Yes, always practice safe sex. Okay, good. Florida State, I've got to know that. Yeah, but the swimmers were getting so much ass at Florida State. Camp of Socialite over here.

I'm just saying. All right. I know, you guys were up too early. I never fuck with the swimmers. It's true. They would have practice at like 4 a.m. I couldn't. stay over their place 100% correct i know i know my um that's why i like to be better than alcohol

wake up next morning yeah you can wake up next morning it's true um okay so how are you dealing with this right now i mean i'm fine i feel terrible for lindsay first and foremost i mean not only does she being you know have a sex tape held over her head by her family but her family is in the midst and the family's denying any of it all of it yeah wow wow well so you're not you're not a posed to drama. What has given you the most anxiety recently in your life? You know what? I try not to get much anxiety and I don't stress much, to be honest. I will think of something, but I have a five-minute rule where like if something happens where I'm pissed off or disappointed or sad, it's like you can't change that. You can't change the past, but what can you do, control the future? So just make sure that

shit doesn't happen again. Avoid it at all costs. Do what you have to do to not be in this feeling again. You care when people talk shit about you online. I feel like you get a decent amount of hate. Oh yeah. I mean, I knew that from the beginning. Like my mom, I tell her like mom, I knew that for every 10 people that love me, one or two is going to hate me. That's how it works. So you went into it with that perspective. Yeah. I mean, no one's perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. I make mistakes on the season. CESA key. You know, that's, there's my anxiety. So are you worried about that when it comes or you're just kind of like going with the flow uh just kind of go with the flow i mean it is what it is do you have just kind of a simple mind like you try not to overthink things i do and i i i almost

kind of like separate the two worlds it's like my personal life is my personal life and my tv life and my and my tv life and not in the fact that it's a different robbie and the fact that you don't get attached to it my circle of people is different okay i have my fans that i can count on the comment on every photo every time I post I know the six or seven that are guaranteed to you know but those people I've never met I'll never see why would I care about their opinions then I've got my personal family and like all my close friends that I've grown up with that are watching me go through this instead of you know catching me on the back end as I've gone through it and I feel like that is so much more important to me that cool you said that my abs don't look as good as they used to I'm never going

to meet you see you and you weren't that one person also I would argue if they did see you in real life, they'd want a photo. Oh, 100%. Which is hilarious. And most of the times on bad comments, if I'm like, I'll say something like that. I'll be like, well, that's sad. Like, you've never met me. You should give people a chance.

They'll be like, oh, my God, I didn't think you'd respond. That wasn't me. My friend grabbed your phone. Yeah, sure. Just like the dad's coming up asking for a picture saying it's for their wife. Yeah. You watch it. So how does your mom and dad feel about this like TV career?

Because you were kind of going the more corporate America route. Are they supportive of it? They're supportive, but they, a family holiday doesn't go by where they don't give me a couple zingers. Yeah. Or ask me like, when are you going to be done with this and have grandbabies for us and settle down? I'm coming. I'm riding this ride. Oh, yeah, because they're like old school and they want you.

Oh, yeah. You're a young, but hold you, 30? I'm 30. Just 10 30. Yeah, you're a baby. Yeah, I've got time. You have like at least 15 years. Men are, like, primed at 45.

Men don't, like, fully mature emotionally to, like, 53. Yeah, women are they starting to start freezing their eggs. Yeah, isn't she in freezing her eggs? I think she did do that. My manager, though, the day was like, okay, we have some meetings. We might freeze your eggs. We might go down to town. I was like, wait, what?

She said it, like, so casually, and I'm like, bitch. What the fuck? I mean, I'm... How old do you think I am? 32. You are so rude and so many ways. I'm fucking 28. Oh, my God.

For some reason, my drunk mind. thought i asked you that last night you said 32 that's why i answered so quickly okay now you're just coming up with excuses no i'm dead serious why would i have said that so quick you weren't that drunk when was the last time you were depressed it's just family stuff you know my grandma went through a hard hard um brain aneurism was not good um that was really hard uh i mean i was depressed after my last breakup okay why were you depressed after your last breakup it wasn't so much depression as it was like how did I not see this coming type thing oh like I should have known why did I try so exactly but that's that then falls into what I said earlier is like when I see something that

I might want or like I dive head first yeah into the pool yeah and then by the time I'm already in there I'm like I'm traveling here pretty soon yeah I know it's those red flags that you see in the beginning and you're like but are they really that bad and then eight months later you're like I saw this I knew this I didn't like you know this you know things that are going to fucking annoy the hell out of you in like nine months but when they're still hot and like you like their pharmones the beginning i'm like i don't care that he hasn't cleaned his room in 10 months there is that honeymoon period for sure yeah that's kind of it's almost like the so moment right you've seen that awkward moment oh yeah oh yeah every relationship comes to us so so what are we

so are we dating so where's this going and that's when Zach Efron exits but it's similar you know the situation um i want to go to our first game called instaumosity because you are an instagram thought like you are a sex pot on instagram a lot i was like trying to find a photo of you and i was like me thirst traps yeah you're just you're that ho over there on instagram wait who like what kind of people follow you is it like a lot of it's a lot of like Torny moms. It's a lot of moms and young girls. And young girls.

Okay. No gays. I feel like... Yeah, there's some gays. I feel like gays will follow you. Do you remember one picture on your Instagram where you looked happy, but you weren't? Yeah, I mean, there's several posts that... Do you ever post...

They're usually ads, you know? They're like, I'll send them 50 photos, and of course, they'll pick the one where I'm like... Yeah. But the product looks great. Yeah. Do you care how you look in photos? Do you face tune? I have, yes.

What do you like to face tune about yourself? I have a chicken pock scar on my forehead. It's a perfect circle. It looks like someone took a whole punch. Yeah, that's disgusting. You're known for your great hairstyle. Thank you. You're like almost like a hotter version of Trump,

the way you like, the way you move it around. Your swoop. How, what is happening? What do you do there? I had it long for a while. through like the paradise type seasons. Yeah. It was some shorter on Jojo's.

Yeah. Were you trying to like make a statement with it? Were you doing a fashion thing? I just wanted to switch it up. So bored of, you know, clean cut, straight hair. It was a little like, you know what? The guys in the South who wear it in the front, like a side bang? It was like that.

It was like that. I was like 16 and I'd like put a beanie on in the middle of summer just so we'd like form it. Yeah. You're like, I'm just envisioning Zach F front now that you said. it's just his like oh yeah he used to have it yeah I bet he did um school musical right yeah who were you jealous of on instagram no one guy I really like to follow I thought you're gonna say fuck yeah who Jordan Barrett Jordan oh male model the year and he's like 18 okay

wait because you're like how in modeling are you do you I'm not really I mean I'm at older and you know those LA agencies really like the younger yeah 24 but I'll go to Cassie. Whoa, his cheekbones are fucking crazy. Yeah, a lot of models are just exotic. I like the vibe of his Instagram. Yeah, he's very archie and vintage. I love it. It's at I blame Jordan if you guys want to look at it. Like he needs more followers. When you post, do you ever post because you like want a girl's attention? Uh, like a, like a single. Yeah, like it's just you was no shirt on and you you're like, let's see if let's show how hot I am. Like I'm trying to think white girls post. Do you If I want a girl's attention, I'll probably just reach out, honestly.

I don't think I'd go through a whole post and then, like, wait. What do you mean? Like, wait for her to be the one in the comment and be like, oh, yeah, she likes me. Yeah, to like thirsts up. Like, I'll, if you know a guy's, like, thinking of you and you post something that's cute and he likes you, he'll always be like, yeah, you look cute. And then you're like, I know. I trapped you.

I knew you were going to say that. You're like, three, two, one. What's up, babe? I'm playing this. Are you like a southern gentleman? Yeah, definitely. I don't really know what a Southern gentleman is because I'm from Brooklyn.

Watch my season in The Bachelor. How do I find it? Hulu? They make it really hard. Oh, just like illegally. I'm not trying to get arrested. I'm like good girl, Robbie. I'm a good girl.

It's not what Jordan said. Oh, my God. Jordan and I sometimes we've never made out, but we'll touch tongues. It's a weird thing we do. We'll get really junk and I'll go, touch my tongue. And then we touch tongues and I go, ew! I know Jordan all too well. I don't really know you that well,

but I can picture both of you doing that. Perfectly. Because they're both so weird. I like him because it's weird. I feel like you're pulling your phone about to show me, but I can see it. Oh, no, I'm just this is my interview questions, but that would be graphic. I'm like, this is us tongueing each other. Would you date a girl with no followers? Yes. Would you prefer to date a girl with no followers? I'd like you've done this before. I've had a girl in LA. I took out on date first time. Never met her. She in the middle of dinner. So are you going to post us while we're here? No. Check please. Check. Check. No. Check. No. security someone get this girl out of here no yes no lie it's actually happened twice but the other girl was really hot so I stayed do you get paranoid that girls are using you or you're just like if you'll have your fun and then figure it out not really I think that and I'm not going to like pat myself in the back or be conceded here but like I'm a I'm a good dude I'm good looking in shape got good family and values behind me so I feel like if they are there for that it'll show.

Yeah. And if it is something that there is a connection, I'm probably going to appeal to her anyways. Yeah. Outside of the followers. Yeah, because you're boring. I don't even know how to respond to that. You're like, I'm a single southern man.

Yet I was the one asked to be your entertainer for the day. I know. It's been brutal. I've been like having to drag this whole thing along. I ignored her all morning. You did. I had to play hard to get it. Well, also I was trying to impress you by remembering.

Because I made a lot of plans, and then I was like, okay, I have to show that I'm committed to my job. Do you think you're happier with more followers? I'm happier with the doors that the more followers open. Yeah. The opportunities. I never would have gotten to go to the Grammys or the CMAs. Events and places I've got to travel that never, I could be in an office, you know. The last six years.

How have you changed as a person sitting here right now versus the day before you went on the Bachelor? First and foremost, I'm more confident. Like, my, my hardest part of my first sales job was public speaking. And I used to go give lunch and learns to architects and engineers who already think they know the world, right? Yeah. And so, you know, spending all that time behind camera and then watching yourself back and being like, do I really sound like that? Do I walk like that? I have to stick on my head.

Yeah. Seeing like little angles of your face you've never seen before is the weirdest part. I'm like, I'm not used to that. I don't like that. So, I think confidence. It just, I can, you know, I can walk into a room or an event where there's, you know, however many people there to see me and be, be myself, be confident. It's weird because with reality TV, unlike actors or singers, people really think they know you

because they think they've seen your life. Yeah. Do you find that weird ever? Yeah, definitely. And not factual. How do you deal with it? I mean, you get a lot of like, oh, you're so much cuter in person. Oh, I thought you were going to be a dick, but you're so nice.

You get a lot of that. Yeah. And I just like to be like, so what did you think of me before then? What the hell is that all about? Is that a back-ended compliment? You can't, I get a lot of like, I didn't like you in the beginning and then I did like you. And I'm like, what does that mean? Exactly.

What does that mean? Okay. Thanks for hopping on the bandwagon halfway through, sweetheart. Yeah, exactly. Where's my, oh, geez. How do you think your real identity is different from your Instagram identity? Well, I haven't been around palm trees for the last 16 photos like I portray. I recycle a lot

It looks like I travel more than I do So you organize shit Like you save photos that you want Yeah and I have like So I work in social media I started my digital media agency A year and a half ago with Ella And I've just been surrounded by it

So I've got like you know Freelancers that'll help me And like do this like just because they Maybe they have crushed me or they get it's fun Or you know they just like here Let me organize this now I've got like the color schemes down But you have to find like the right people To surround yourself with

Exactly So yeah I'd say like I don't, I'm not around beaches as much as my experience. It looks like you just live. I am working eight hours a day trying to launch an agency off the ground. Like, that's the behind the scenes you don't. So you have, so tell me a little more about Rebella, because it's actually a very fascinating, cool company you're starting.

It's an influencer-driven digital media agency. So we connect a brands with social celebrities to help, you know, raise their brand's awareness across all these social platforms. And we do it in a way where we start with, content because content is king you know we'll go out to i took 30 people to thailand in january for two weeks um 10 models four photographers some guests staff um and we went out there with three brand deals and just shot all their products with the girls in different locations different places a lot of logistics it was a shit done especially going across the world Thailand it was we'll go somewhere closer

next time for one for a trip that's that I love the millennial mindset of us all growing with each other because like the better the better you do the better my podcast episode does the better my podcast does the better you do from it's just like a beautiful a beautiful circular experience we give back every trip so in Thailand we've worked with the elephant sanctuary where the elephants are saved i love that in Hawaii we rebuilt homes from the floods and then in um in st thomas from hurricane irma on the one-year anniversary when we went and rebuilt the house that's amazing I really think with influencers, we have this powered influence and why not add some positive charity to it? This podcast has mental health to it.

And I think there's so many people that have their own causes that like, why not reach out? For us, it's giving back to the place that let us call home for a week. I love that. It's so beautiful. To wrap it up, we're going to play The Seven Deadly Sins. We've got a lot of games on here, a lot of games. Oh, but I want to ask you one more question. When you stopped swimming, did you have an identity crisis?

I didn't have an identity crisis, but I had an eating crisis. What happened? Swimmers are known to eat thousands and thousands of calories a day. They need it. I was eating like a large pizza for dinner, an entire one, three nights a week. That like turns me on. And I was like, what am I going to do now? I'm not swimming 10 miles a day.

Like, I can't keep these old eating habits. No, no, no, no. You're like, God, no. I actually went paleo for like two and a half years. years. Oh, so you were like scared that you were going to blow up? Well, I just wanted to have an advantage in not letting that happen. Yeah. So I kind of just cut that. Did you have an eating disorder? No. So you just went paleo? Do you like, do you like paleo? Uh, I did like it. I mean, it was easy. Eggs and bacon in the morning. I could go to five guys and get a burger as long as I didn't have

a bun, you know? That's amazing. Five guys is so good. It's what's better five guys or in and out? Five guys. Have you been to that bar? in the city where it's five guys and then upstairs it's like a hidden bar in the west village yes it's so fun oh my gosh it's good that's so weird you brought that up go up and down just probably one of the only like random bars like that i remember in my seat that was like a year and a half ago we have good taste in bars time to play seven deadly sins seven deadly sins what are you greedy about family time oh don't don't just say this to get asked though that was a quick answer that was rapid fire yeah a little

too quick all right he's reading off his phone family time spending time with my grandma i don't even know what this is how do i play this game is it just okay yeah you talk to think about it is it like boom boom boom no you have time to think about it i was just making fun to you so you like spending time with your family who do you like more your mom or your dad um i like them both but you're such an asshole my dad gets jealous with how much I call my mom that way I love guys who call their mom

daily do you dance like once every three days yeah but like dads aren't as like gossipy they're not as much fun moms like and moms are intuitive and like understand your emotions

dads are fun to be like about the juicy stuff with mom yeah how's work with dad yeah or like talk about the game yeah exactly and so I do with my dad that's up my own daddy issues

Who are you envious of in general, not just the 18-year-old model guy on Instagram? Or what type of person are you jealous of? The one that's settled down and has kids, honestly. Because I see it, but you also, like, I'm not in a rush for that. Yeah. But you've got to start from that day, right? Do you envision, like, having a family with Jojo? Yeah, I definitely envisioned it.

now that you're out of the like craziness of it all could you still see it with her gosh if that phone call came let's just say i'd answer it what'd you like about her she's just she's a great girl man she's smart she's beautiful she's family oriented her family is super successful both her parents are surgeons brothers investment bankers yeah um she lights up a room and she i think what got me with her was her confidence. Yeah. And granted she had a season before on camera to build up that confidence. But she came in there and just ran it. From all your dating experiences on air, off air, on puppy cams, I make myself what have you learned that you don't want in a woman? I mean, there's a lot of different stuff. I just want like, like I'm a big love language type, like touch, feel, words of affirmation.

What's your, yeah, what are your love languages? Definitely those. Words of affirmation and. So you like to text a lot? Not, where did you get texting from? Words? I don't know. Words of affirmation, it's like, I'm speaking to you.

Breaking up with you over text. Why are you breaking up? No, I'm saying, do you like need her texting? You're like, I miss you. No, not that at all. Okay, because that's annoying. No, I need, you know, I open the car door for her and I get a thank you. Not like it's expected.

I can open my own car door. That's an angry New York girl. Very good. Yeah. scary good um minor physical touch and it's funny i don't remember asking um this welcome to my house this is my i am the devil in this room physical touch physical touch and quality time oh yeah that's great that that's the one thing i actually don't care for talking i really look for and you said like things that are red flags here's the green flag is lock me in a room with her with no tv no

phone for 24 hours and am I begging to get out? Am I annoyed? Am I bored? Am I? And not having sex. I can't have sex for 24 hours. I can name two girls probably that at this point in moment I can do that with. And that's important. It's really important. Yeah, I've I've had guys where like I don't see that often, but it's like the bachelor. When you do see them, it's like great. There's so many people. But then they're like, oh, I'm not free for six days. Like my career is crazy. And you're like, okay. I'd rather dude be like, I'm so busy. But like I just want to you with me on the couch while we both do work i'll be like yeah i'll let in my podcast i just i want that's love to me not you taking me on fancy days and a lot of it's like people are uncomfortable

with just silence around each other and they feel like they have to like it's an awkward moment and they've got to say something and then it becomes awkward but that person that you can just sit there and like conversation just rolls or it doesn't at all it's fucking beautiful it's so beautiful i think people worry so much about did i say the right thing did i do the right thing but the right person I think it's energy and I mean I'm on all the time like if you see me out like I'll be like the loud one because I that's my own issues but when I'm with the right person I'm actually like very quiet like if I'm quieter on you it means I like you and you don't feel like you have to entertain them right it's not like but I've been in relationships with guys that I feel like I have

to like earn their affection to entertain all the time and I get burnt out eventually I'm just like I send a text message and say I can't do it anymore that's how she does it right gentlemen that is how it's done. Besides large pizzas, what are you gluttonous about? Do you eat pineapple ham? No, I don't do pineapple. I actually do. I don't do fruit on my pizza or in my salads. I mean, if I'm in the mood, I'll do it. I'm not going to say no. I have a really bad sweet tooth, and it comes from that habit that we talked about that I do nightly. Oh, yeah. So I also. Anal sex, yeah. I also. I also, have um i get some postmates credits every month okay through postmates social stuff for them yeah and so it's not i i wouldn't so it's free the calories don't count if it's free i don't hesitate at buying

$40 with the donuts at 12 a.m. and i put it that way are so what kind of donuts do you get dk's donuts the butter milk oh my god i love the like cake uh anything with like cake so good and then you do you like work out obsessively the next day yes but my workout routine has been kind of lacking lately. What is your workout routine when you work out? It's usually a lot of running up front. Cardio. Quick, um, weights after.

Like, I'm not trying to bulk up. I'd rather stay lean in tones. So I really do, I was doing like four to five miles and doing like 45 minutes of ways. That's nice. Do you get the urge to swim ever? No. I haven't swam since 2012 Olympic trials. Wow.

It's probably what a patch of paradise. Whenever you went in the pool, you're like, Laps, then you just doing laps. Sophomore year of college, I lost my eyebrows to chlorine. What? Literally, every time I was getting in the pool, I was putting, I was putting Vaseline over my eyebrows so they wouldn't fall out. Oh, my God.

Yeah, that can't be healthy. Well, it's better than being a football player and having CTE. They ruin their brains. You just ruin some of your eyebrows. Yeah, I've got great joints. Yeah. I'm putting pressure on in the ears. I bet.

Wow. When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath? Do you get anger? Oh, sure. um everyone gets angry um it's probably in some of the filming that happened over the summer do you ever get worried about snapping on camera because i know a lot of guys i won't snap i'm very conscious about that like i'll go in the bathroom turn my mic off and take like before i'll you know let that happen so so did you get angry on camera i'm very i'm very in control of myself usually

i think most of that comes from i love people watching like the atlanta airport used to be my favorite place in the world because my flight got delayed awesome I'd sit there and just watch such a melting pot of so you're creepy interact very creepy like staring like I could have told you that she wasn't gonna upgrade you if you were acting like that you got to ask her flirt with her like you'd learn how to interact with people's emotion maybe that's why you like reality TV it's really just a social experiment it's one massive social experience and I I enjoyed I felt like I grew because I put myself in social situations I would have never 100% never be

Exactly. You're almost proud of yourself. Yeah, you're like, I survived some, like, fucked up shit. When was the last time you were a sloth? Do you get lazy? Because I know you're traveling all over. You have your business. You have a lot of TV shit. I've been lazy about the gym. That's why I said I used to run 45 miles. I probably haven't been in the gym in a month. I could tell. Really? No, I'm just kidding. Okay, that's the second time you've shown me your abs in this podcast.

I did Eden Sassoon's podcast. I'm completely shirtless for an hour. so and there wasn't even video there's just a dog you can no there's video okay we'll look at that later when was this is the toughest one are you ready when was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something like do you have a big ego sure i mean we we have our moments um when i let it get in the way of something i don't know if i would do that but i mean if if the bouncer at the club's not let us in i'll be like hey see that blue check come here big guy. Is that what people do in L.A.? I mean, I... Because New York, people don't give a fuck. I usually... New York, if they give you like $200, they'll let you in, but I feel like L.A., they would

with a blue check. Yeah, I've seen it happen occasionally, but I usually walk in with people. I'm usually not the group leader. Do you like... I don't go out much in L.A. I'm a bar guy. I'm a bar guy. I'm a bar girl, too. I could do without clubs for restaurants. So if I were to go to L.A., where should I, like, hang? Venice is fun? I will never say anywhere else but Venice or Santa Monica. What about Malibu? Malibu, Newport, all them are great. Because I just went to...

Luke him into one. I just went to WeHo. It was weird. I don't remember the last time I was in WeHo. I go maybe once a week. I did a couple podcasts there. That's it. Final question.

When was the last time you lusted over someone? Shoot. Besides me last night. Every day on my Instagram. Do you DM all those girls? You do, don't you? No, no, no, no, no. I have, I mean...

You said no, so many times it negated it. That's because, no, not for that purpose. But now, these girls are the ones I'm hiring. Oh, so you're doing business and if you happen to hit it off. Do you have like a celebrity crush who's not on reality TV? Me and my three partners have separated church and state. We make sure that's handled correctly. Okay, I'll believe it when I see it.

Who's your like celebrity crush who isn't on reality TV? Margot Robbie. Yeah, she's stunning. She's gorgeous. And her accent's amazing. Who is your... is your, like, newest reality TV crush that you haven't met, that you want to date besides me?

Ooh. Well, I can't date her, but that Love Island girl, that just won. She's in the relationship. She was there last night. Was she? Yeah, she was at our table. I didn't meet her. Drunk ass.

She's the cute blonde, right? Yeah. Did you watch it? I actually think I've met her before in Miami. I think she's like in New York. No, I didn't watch it. So, end of the day, what I like to ask everyone is, What advice would you give to listeners on how to cope with their hell?

Can't change the past, but you can control the future, so make sure that shit doesn't happen again. But let yourself be mad or angry or sad or cry for five minutes. You need to get those emotions out. Do you cry? Yeah, sure. I'm very, like, I don't, what's that called when you can tear up easily at the end of a movie? Like, I get it for my mom and I hate her for it. That's so cute, though.

It's like, I watch Aladdin and like Will Smith is set for you. That's another thing you used to get ass. It's like the end of a movie and he starts crying and just like, I need to. to marry him he's going to be such a good father it's so true though it's like Aladdin last time it happened that's adorable it's not like full on tears it's just like I better wash you're not like heaving I better wipe that on my eye I like that no I think it's important that men show emotion I think it's important that you let it out because if you keep it in it'll come out in other ways in bad ways when I get anxiety I blow it sometimes I have diarrhea

Anyway, Robbie. I'm glad we broke up 30 minutes ago. Robbie, where can people follow you? At Robert Hunter 89. Hunter your middle name? Hunter is my middle name. I did my research. If you're a brand, come work with Rebella.

If you're a reality TV fan, you get Siesta Key to summer. Amazing. Thank you so much for coming to hell, guys. Follow me at being burned, subscribe, rate review, screenshot if you had fun today. And I'll talk to you later. Let's get out of here. Bye. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha ha ha.