Berner Phone - Scheana Shay: Being A Sugar Mama & Bad Kisses

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

Scheana addresses being called a bad kisser on national TV, why her divorce doesn’t define her, how she met her new boyfriend Brock, why she hates her hairline, why she was a bitch to Dayna, the last time she spoke with her ex husband, why she did her show in Vegas, her multiple hookups with Carl, freezing her eggs, her weight fluctuation, and how Stassi has inspired her. GO TO CBDFORLIFE.US AND USE THE CODE HANNAH20 FOR 20% OFF EVERYTHANGGGGG For $3 join Hannah's Close Friends List on Instagram here --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Honestly, I kind of liked it. Welcome to Burning in Hell. started yeah what's up guys welcome to burning in hell i'm your host hannah burner and sheena shay has watched what happens live in three minutes and she ran to come here first um i have a new level of respect for you because obviously she has great taste and podcasts i was also on shenanigans you guys need to subscribe with you yes sheena how do you like new york city i love new york like if it wasn't for the cold i probably would have moved here by now i know you're kind of at like permanently tan bitch and I'm jealous. Really? I think that's just the Mexican blood because I have not tanned in like

three years. I am a potato right now but I still wear a crop top for you. Yes. I wear magic. Love it. Thank you. She is the crop top queen. Um, first of all, I've watched Vanderpump we're like two or three episodes in. First episode, fucking Brett, what would I, some Italian name. Yeah. On national television. Out of nowhere, not prompted by a producer. I'm like a little upset about this obviously says that you're a bad kisser yeah and then he tries to like act like oh well you know the producers I'm like no no no I watched your interview where you literally say it wasn't what I expected did Jeremiah our producer have to ask to further that comment no but he wasn't insinuating that he's like well what do you mean it wasn't what you expected are you saying she's a bad kisser and he's like that's exactly what I'm saying I'm like oh yeah he sure manipulated you he forced you to say that didn't he it's also like I'm detective of my OGs and like don't come in like that also it doesn't matter what how old you are don't fucking say shit about someone's kissing right and it's not even true it's not true I've seen multiple stories of women and men coming forward thank you yeah so annoying so I'm very

upset at that and I've told sheena this maybe six times already but I have to preface it when I'm drunk whatever I'm just like sheena but I went through my terrible breakup vanderpump was all I watched at night and get home and from I was like I'm starting the show from the beginning so like you guys represent like an escape for a lot of people and it's a beautiful thing but our escape is your reality right like vicariously live through my life it's fine um the first episode the first thing you say you're flirting it up doing your thing and you go divorce does not define me okay let me just give you a little backstory about that comment yes so I was going through the restaurant just like him a bunch of stories of things that could ultimately be flashed back to.

And one of them I was like, okay, and over here at Garden Nine was where Tom Sandoval punched Jack Taylor at my engagement party, like, blah, blah, blah about my engagement party. And he kind of looks to me like, we just made out last week. Like it looks at my finger, like you're not wearing a ring. And I was like, oh, yeah, I'm divorced. I don't know if you know that, not that it defines me. But it was because I was talking about my engagement party. I didn't just randomly be like, so girls are going to like you and I'm divorced,

just say no doesn't define me people took that quote and it was like everywhere oh they I have a tattoo on my arm now it says I'm divorced not a big deal doesn't define me so a lot of people listening are probably huge vander pumpers or I just made that up I don't know people call themselves that I want that though thank you I want to do a quick game of all the OGs okay and just it's what is it called like any yearbook you do the whatever oh like a superlative thing yes yes look at you I was testing you. Uh-huh. Um, who is the messiest? Oh, Tom Sandoval. Really? Yeah. Because he looks so put together with his, like, shave forehead. Yeah, but then you like walk in his bedroom and you're like, is there a floor in here? Okay, this is the dirt we need. Um, who eats the most? Probably Jacks. He lost some weight,

though, this evening. Yeah, but definitely eats a lot. Who's the grumpiest in the morning? These, This is what I want to know. Katie? I could see that. Who's the flakiest with plans? Stasi. I see that. Who's the best drinker?

See, Brittany probably drinks the most, but she's not the best because she's always sick after. That's some southern, like, shit. You know, so I'd maybe give that to myself because I always can, like, hold my own when I drink. And I don't usually get to the,

the point of like really drunk so i'm i'm a good drinker in the responsible way when you film do you have like a different kind of like filming drunk versus non-filming drunk overall i'm not a big drinker i definitely smoke way more weed than i do drink alcohol but especially when i'm filming i drink less there's been maybe two or three scenes in eight seasons that i've been like drunk one being the penguin scenes last year in the finale blacked out forgot about that night um and then you more than remembered it yeah but i don't like to get too drunk on camera because i don't want to slur my words and i want to remember everything the next day and not be like six months later doing an interview like i don't remember because i was so drunk so awkward actually

we have an important i asked you guys questions to send in you guys um this is the most question has adam even met his penguin child yet no he never went with me We never got to go visit BabySpot. And you know what? Technically, it is my penguin. I have the adoption certificate and she's mine. You have this like, you put it all out there. And I still, to this day, I don't understand how you can go on national TV

and own the fact that you bought a guy an Apple watch and he ghosted you. Like, I would never admit that. I mean, I'm trying to do a thing where it's like if you're only going to cover this very small part of my life which is oh she works at sir still and she likes a boy if that's all you're going to show i'm going to show it in the most self-deprecating way possible and i'm going to make fun of myself yeah because it is dumb the amount of money i have spent on these boys these boys do you like do you like being a sugar mama in the relationship i mean i'm a very giving person i'm very generous and is that your love language it's definitely one of them yeah

for sure. I think that's it. But I've pretty much only and ever, like until now, dated guys less successful than me who couldn't afford the things that I know they wanted. And I'm like, what's a thousand bucks? I'll just do a few cameos, do an Instagram post and buy you an Apple Watch. Oh my God. I want to date you. I feel though I've recently like been on my show and things have changed in terms of like I have more Instagram followers. But I realize it's like less of a dating pool now. in terms of like serious relationships like I and guys don't it's reverse wise like I could have no job I could be homeless and I could date anyone but once you're successful it's like a less of a dating totally because it's it's emasculating to men to be with a woman more successful or

financially stable than them and again I only dated boys until Brock so okay the name Brock like makes me what like you have to be a man A strong man, if you have that name. Yeah, like, there's no skinny brocks walking around. He's, well, I'm going to say it's for you. He's this Australian. He looks like Jason Mamoa. Jason Mamoa.

He's basically like Aquaman, but with a hotter accent. Yes. How did you meet? So we were in San Diego. It was after day two of a music festival. We wanted to keep the party going. So one of my girlfriends called one of her friends and was like, do you know any after is like we still want to keep partying and he was like oh yeah go over to my friend's house gives

us the address we're there there there's only like maybe 10 15 people at most like not a lot of people and I see this gorgeous guy who comes over and starts talking to me and then I hear his gorgeous accent and I'm like wait New Zealand or Australia and he's like born in New Zealand raised in Australia and I was like wait no way I was like I was just in Auckland and Sydney and so then that sparked a conversation that night we didn't exchange numbers or anything don't know why neither of us were sober at all but the next morning he slid in the dms with can i take you to a football game not can i take you to dinner or drinks or anything cheesy and lame wait that's so hot yeah he knew the way to my heart he said a rams game and i was like well i'm a chargers fan yeah but overall

i just love football and i love going to any sporting event so like i'm down you're fun like you like to do things. Let me just say, sheena texted me on page on a fucking Monday, happy as ever. Like, let's go out. Where's the party? I texted a page on the side. I was like, she thinks we're way more fun than we are. I was like, I'm going to text my New York friends.

Nobody came out. It was just me and Brockett employees only last night. No, but you are definitely a good time. But I want to know, you put yourself out there. You're cute, you're fun, you're having a good time. What's your biggest physical? insecurity. My hairline. Shut the f-

I swear to God. You are such a weirdo. I hate my hair line. What is wrong with your hair line? See how it goes back? Well, I kind of colored it in today because my hair was up, but it goes back further on my right side. I have my bad side. I have full Trump hair. Like, I have a full like cowlick over here. And so do I. Yeah. I have that

on both sides. I fill it in with this like topic hair powder. It is, I even got my hairline microbladed, but it didn't stick. It washed off in like three washes. It's just hilarious to me, the things that people are insecure about that you'd never fucking notice. And you like wearing your hair back too. I love my hair back. I just wish I had a Kim K hairline. Oh my God. A lot of them, they like laser. But that's the thing. I could laser a

perfect hairline, but I would give myself a bigger forehead. No, I want to pull my airline forward. And you have a five head. If I face tune anything in a photo, I pull my hairline down. That's the only thing I really face-tone. That's amazing. Yeah. And I'll smooth out cellulite if I have that, but that's not an insecurity. That's just being a woman. I feel like you look younger than you started. Maybe because you wore more makeup and Botox. You wore more eye makeup. I did. You did. I loved the black under eye. Oh yes. Oh. It was like Britney Spears-esque. Yeah. Less messy. Yeah. Hers is always like she's been crying for four days and it's still there. Pre-cry.

Also, do you remember your glasses? Oh, yeah. I still have those. They're amazing. I still have them. Those are at my Palm Springs house. I think that people have to understand that to survive these shows, you have to be able to laugh at yourself.

Absolutely. You're also a cat lady. I am. I have too. And no one, like, why don't they give the cats more extreme time? I don't understand. You know, they don't like to come to Marina del Rey because they live so far. So I think that's one reason.

But whenever we do film, Penny is all about the cameras. Like, she's just, like, strutten her stuff. Salem freaks out. He'll hide when the cameras are there. I don't know why. Salem's like Adam. Yeah. That's giving Adam too much credit.

Salem's way cooler. I actually, like, kind of knew Adam because he knew Robbie, who knew Jordan, who's on Summerhouse. And they would, like, frolic around together all the time. Those FSU boys. I mean, I love Schwartz, so I'll take him out of that category. but any other FSU boy just run around with their white-ass teeth and like who knows what those sketchy boys are up to I had Robbie on the pod I don't want to know I had Robbie on after he was hanging out with you for a little bit yeah now he's on CSA key yeah fourth reality show hopefully

this one sticks it's actually it's insane it's insane yeah um what do you think is your worst habit oh my worst habit we're getting dark darker slowly. I think being on my phone, too much went as I'm checking it right now. Brock's like, I'm about to leave. Do you need anything from the room? You guys were witnessing Brock being her little bitch and getting everything she needs. He's the best boyfriend.

It's fucking adorable. He's the best Instagram boyfriend. He's just the best. How did it become official? When we were in Australia and Bali, I mean, we were only like five weeks into dating and he flew me out to see him. That's some bachelor's shit. Yeah. And when we were there, he was saying something about, I don't know if it was like a reservation we were trying to make. He's like, I'm just going to call and say like, it's like mine and my girlfriend's anniversary. And I was like,

you're who? And he's like, well, I'm just going to say, I was like, well, am I? And he's like, I'm like, are you seeing anyone else? No. I'm not seeing anyone else. No. So I mean, why not? And then it just, yeah, and Bali, it became official. Do you feel like you've been guilty in the past of like falling for dudes before you know them yes but it's because of what they put out so quickly like with max for example i mean from week one i started falling for him because everything he was saying to me was all of the things adam never said rob never said i hadn't heard since the first year of being was shea and it was like all of those things that i wanted to hear so badly i was getting from this guy week one and he was so

all in, all about me, like, every day that I was like, okay, let's just jump all in and see where this goes. But then he fucking gaslights you and makes you feel like you were the crazy one forcing it. I'm like, you pursued me, motherfucker. I have a rule with these boys. If the first couple of dates, they call you beautiful, talk about meeting their parents, any of that crazy shit, it's like, it's not authentic and I don't trust them. No. Because before I would fall for that shit. But I'm 28 now. You can't get it past me. Yep. I've seen some shit.

Yeah, but yeah, I would, going back to the bad habit, I think it's my mom's thing she gets most annoyed with me about. She's like, how come when like you're with Brock, you're not always on your phone? But when you're with me, you're always on your phone, I'm like, well, because I usually like hang out with my mom during Monday through Friday business hours, when I have emails and respond,

she's like, oh, it's always a work thing. It's always, but I'm like, it is a bad habit, but it is also business. Yeah. But I would say that's... Parents love being like, get off your phone. And then I'm like, you're on fucking Facebook on your phone. Yeah.

So let's just even it out. But a lot of time I am doing emails. Like we're running around. Yeah. Is your mom your momager? Not like technically, but yes. Like she does. She's like my daily life manager, not really like business-wise.

But she helps me with everything. I would be lost without her. Because whenever I've seen you like professionally, she's always there by your side helping you. And it's fucking adorable. Is it hard working with your mom? No. I don't think so because I mean it's it's not like she's like setting up meetings for me and I did this and that I mean I have a team who works for me and then it's like she's just kind of on payroll as my mom just you know I'm like I when the economy dropped like a decade ago she got laid off and then got into hospice care and after losing a few patients it was just a really hard field to be in and I had just started making money and I'm like don't go and try and get another job.

don't do something you're unhappy with like just you know work for me and by that just be my mom oh i love that so much yeah and also like you if you can trust anyone it's your fucking absolutely and this industry i feel like once you get any momentum people are quick to just see how they can use you yeah how do you think you've changed the most since season one which is such a generic question i mean definitely makeup wise that has been a full transformation i have not had a nose job just by popular opinion but I think just overall I've grown a lot and I've matured and I think there was a point in time where all of us I mean look at Stasi she quit the show moved to New York season two when she thought she was the shit like all of us had those moments where

we did get really caught up and I think mine was season three when it was like all about the wedding and like me this me that and I was neglecting my friendship with Ariana realizing she had just lost her dad and everything she was dealing with because I was just so caught up with like oh Katie and I are friends now and Kristen and I are friends now and it was just like I got lost for a few seasons I think you got lost in the sauce I did but pulling myself out of that and just becoming a better and stronger person I think um has just helped me just to grow overall and it's self-aware of you I mean I even I realize once you get that kind of attention where it's like the show doesn't go on unless you fucking go there and get married or like no one's shooting

a sheen a she a she a shena a scene without shea there and i started realizing i was summer house once i like went to shooting and i got there and i had a film pocket i just had a lot of shit i'd do that day yeah and i was like the first thing i said i go i need an ice chai latte and my producer talks to me he goes he was brish he goes sit the fuck down and come remember who you are and i was just like but i can see how when people depend on you you start being like well i can show up whenever i want yeah i can like what are you going to start the scene without me but it's also like you don't want to hate the person you're becoming right and it affects your friendships absolutely how are your friends right now in l.A like I feel like everyone wants to

make it and I'm in be honest you guys have fucking made it to capacity like reality TV you guys I think you should win an Emmy I think our editors should win an Emmy because what they show of me is just amazing like pun intended bravo editors bravo I went you're like kind of getting this like mean girl edit right now what do you think that wasn't an edit that was just how I acted but I was kind of an asshole to Dana so that was not editing that was just me there I explained this on my podcast last week with Ariana I was saying it's frustrating because you know when you are filming a show you can only talk about so much yeah and the reality was here comes this new girl on the show who just like comes in like a hurricane. It's like not taking all of my friends for me because you can't take someone from another person unless they choose to go.

But it was just like, she just so quickly, it's like, oh, I'm dating the last guy you dated and I'm trying to be best friends with your best friend and then your other best friend. I have a girl crush on. And then the guy that you kind of like, I'm going to go out with and not tell. It was just like all of these things

that was just like thrown in my face. But the biggest thing was like day two, everyone's going to her comedy show. And that's being shown. And there were multiple of those that, were covered that I'm like no one ever saw my Vegas show and no one ever saw my podcast and it was just one of those things where like I mean if you want to say it's a jealousy thing it was jealous that a career of someone who's been on the show for two days is being shown and not someone

of eight years and if I get in trouble for saying that you know it show my career but it is just like the most frustrating thing for me when all you see is desperate sheena for a boy who works at sir and I'm like do people really think that that is all of my life because that's insulting if you think that I have no substance other than I want to date this boy and I work at sir like living in Vegas for half a year there was so much content missed in my personal life that was the biggest thing I've ever done it was literally life changing yeah coming off a heartbreak with rob and dealing with the divorce at the same time because I never did process that I hopped right into another relationship so dealing with two breakups at once moving to Vegas I've never been until

out of LA longer than 10 days in Europe and performing every single night it was six nights a week I had Wednesdays off every Tuesday I flew back to LA I podcasted on Wednesday I flew back on Thursday for four and a half months that was my schedule every day but I was there overall for six why did you do it the show well yeah the show and the podcasting and like why in this moment of your life did you want to do that I got the opportunity to do the podcast with podcast one the month I moved to Vegas. And I'm like, how am I, I'm like, oh, I'll just do it when I move back. Like, how am I going to make this work now? But it was like, that opportunity was there then. It was like, maybe it wasn't going to be there in six months when I moved back. And then if we're picked up,

we start filming again. Like, I'm so happy you're showing the side of the story. Because, like, it's important. You're, there's so many facets of you that have, like, there's a reason you're still on the show also. I do think that it seems like her coming in, they know that she has a huge, huge disadvantage they were trying just so hard way harder than they would ever try with you yeah been there to like get her to be relevant and remember yeah and it's like it's one of those moments where you have to like see the big picture of it she's in such a different position than you yeah you'll see um a lot of changes with her and I's whatever you want to call it work relationship friendship like you'll definitely see um some big changes some good some bad

but overall I was just like I'm not jealous that you're dating Max like trust me he is the last guy I would recommend to anyone has anyone seen Brock has anyone seen what Brock looks like like I'm good and I mean the guy who I was casually dating all summer didn't want to be on the show of course so it's like you don't see that that's what I'm like it's so frustrating that I'm like you don't see like all my girlfriends I've known for 15 20 years who I hang out with on the west side things they do with my sister and my mom like my podcast my show in Vegas like my fitness line my my makeup line all of these things I've done your fitness line is so fucking cute thanks page and I were texting about it when it came out it's just like it's not too like it's so like wearable yeah

it's so comfy and it's not like slutty and once I say slide I just mean like I don't want to look like I'm about to like grind on a dude when I'm at the gym all the time like I want to look hot but like not too hot right um anyway Any update with Shea? Do you have music coming out or like? I know he is still working with Hiro, who he was in like a group with as we had our falling out as I'll call it. But so he is still working on music.

We keep in touch, not as much. We were better friends last year. And then there were just a few things that I was still seeing some inconsistencies. And I invited him over to my family's house for a barbecue. And I was so excited for like just to. get back in like my family's good graces and to build a real friendship yeah and then like five minutes before he was supposed to be there he said he had to go into work which i knew was a lie and then i didn't hear from him for four months and then it's like i just ran into him at a funeral unfortunately last

week and it was kind of awkward because i'm like we were getting to such a good place and then i don't see you and i don't hear from you and then randomly when i was here at bravo con he facetimes me and i didn't answer because i was with brock and it was like the vanderpump rules after party and i'm like uh did you mean to call he's like hey what's up where are you and i'm like I haven't heard from you in four months. Sometimes, like, those friendships are just not meant to be. No, so, I mean, I wish him all of the best, but. I think you exposing that on national TV of just, like, what was happening,

I went through a relationship, one of my first boyfriends who, like, I didn't know was using drugs. And I found out later, it's like the little bit every day. Like, it wasn't a party drug. And he basically told me that he relapsed, like, a year and a half into it when I already, like, loved him. I was like, I'm here for you. And he was like, I have an addiction problem. And I was like, I'm here for you. And then I realized, like, I can't babysit this.

No. So, like, I went through the exact same experience. And, like, he was sick, but, like, sick in a way that you weren't prepared. No. And if you don't want to help yourself, like, how can I help you? And that was the thing with Shay where everyone's like, how did you not know? I'm like, because he had been taking this shit since before we started dating. So I didn't know any other Shay.

That was the Shay I knew who was like. like on bike and every day. And he's not coming home late every night partying. No. It was his just numbing his own emotions. Yeah, which was so sad because it was like once I found out like this was an issue, we, I mean, I wasn't going to get a divorce, but there was also a girl he was talking to on the side and had this whole like emotional affair, which I still, I hid because I didn't

want to admit that that was wrong in our marriage on top of the drugs and alcohol. So I like covered for him on that, but I was just like, okay, we can get through this. You know, we got married. I take these vows seriously for better or worse. This is the worst. It's going to get better. Did he want to film? He, when we first got the initial meeting to do the show, I mean, I didn't.

He was my boyfriend at the time. We were all about it. And we were like, oh, we should like get married on the show like they do on the Bachelor and like get engaged and like all of this stuff. And it was just like at the time, I mean, we were 25 years old. We didn't know the show was going to take off. It was just like all of these things like, oh, we should do this and we should do that. And everyone had their own agenda and things they wanted to plan. He was game.

And that's the most important thing. You didn't, like, force him to be in this life that he didn't choose. No. And then the second that things started to get a little hard for him and, you know, he wasn't making money on the show and he wasn't happy. It just, it really took a toll on our relationship. But I'm like, I never forced you to do this. We agreed to do this together.

When I agreed to sign on to the show, you could have broken up with me. You could have said, you know what? I don't want this. But you did. And we did it together and we made that decision together. Like, I didn't force him to marry me on national television. That was something we decided on together. do you have any advice for me being on a reality show and trying to date oh god it's so close to

impossible i'm so fucking single right now yeah i'm more single than i've ever been i mean that was me until brock honestly like i was so single i was casually dating someone over summer but it wasn't going anywhere it was just you know like a good booty call and if i'm gonna film summer house comes we don't know if we're renewed yet but if you do then if you start talking to someone within three months you have to like let them know oh totally like side note i'm gonna will be filmed if we're seeing each other. Yeah, and that's, it's so hard because it really takes. And these New York guys are not entertainment dudes.

Oh, right? You know? They're all like, financial analysts. What is the financial analyst? No one, what are you analyzing numbers? It's a number. Look at it. Anyway.

Yeah. But, um, it's tough. It is. So, I mean, I would say it definitely takes a certain type of guy in personality who is secure enough in his own career and life that he just wants to add value to yours. And if that means being on the show, then great, like Bo, for example.

I mean, perfect example. He is someone who adds so much value to Stasi's life, who has bettered her career, literally. Two years ago, she was making stupid comments, losing podcast sponsors. And now look at her. She's touring. She's so successful in New York Times bestseller. Like, I'm so proud of her and happy for her. But I really think that Bo has added a lot of value to her life because he was secure enough in

his own life and career that he was okay to come on. no one gets paid the first season of reality show nobody like it's not like he came on to make six figures like that doesn't happen he came on because he knew it was important if he loves her that he needed to be a part of this show because that's what her life is her life is her job or job is her life i need to wait for that special dude exactly and don't settle until you do because i've i've had a lot of a lot of frogs like because i'm some i see myself in you and i think a lot of girls even if they don't fucking say it because people love to like share the memes of you and be like,

Shana, we're, we've all been that girl who like, you project all this stuff onto a dude and then he doesn't come through with any of it. And I think I need to start embracing that more instead of covering it up and like being like, oh, everything's perfect. Like, no, no, no, I'm so happy. Like, because now looking back and seeing the way like Max and Brett have said things behind my back and I never even dated Brett, we had a five second kiss. It was not a hookup as he says.

Okay. Bitch, please. But like... People love saying they hooked up with you, Carl. You know? Okay. I mean, we didn't sleep together, but we did hook up. You messed around a little.

But it was after he said that actually. There was her so. I was like, well, you already said it. So we had to do it. How was it? I mean, we didn't hit a home run. And we never got past second, third base. It's okay.

Carl's, you know, he gets sweaty. So it's good. She didn't go too far. Yeah, but, um, yeah also everyone's had a fucking rub we're like you fucking loved them so much we're like you're with your friends and you just don't stop talking about them like everyone's been like that with a dude like you meet a guy and you're just like so into him yeah and I think I've gotten so defensive with the way it's been portrayed and edited and it's like I literally just had a meeting with a company I'm

going to start working with and they're like we really need to know like what is your brand because no offense we don't think it's music so it's like we're not going to brand you as a singer and i'm like no no no that's not that's something i do for fun as a hobby if i have an appearance give me a microphone throw me on the bar i'll sing good as gold and do the splits that's just a little bonus fuck yeah that's not something i'm trying to build a career on it's just a fun but wasn't there some singing in Vegas um it was a dance it was dance okay yeah so it had a dance a dance number at the end of every show and that was so much fun but that was acting improv yeah and i love doing that comedy yeah and when they asked me like well what is your brand i'm like i yeah you know that's a

great question because i can give you 10 answers but it's like i really need to hone in on one thing like stasi i she embraced her basic bichness and you know he was building a career on that and i'm like you know what maybe if i embrace that desperateness it is relatable but i just i never embrace it i always just act like no no no like he was this and he was that and like i'm it's like i always try and make an excuse instead of just being like yeah i looked dumb i mean rob was hot and like a fucking no let's not say hot i mean he was tall that was all well that's all i care about that's right you did say that yeah he had his height going for him and lost so he didn't even look at his face but he seemed hot um and i think you're so right my question is Kristen who has the new book coming

out you're not crazy or he's making you crazy he's making you crazy i think she is in that path too where she's... She's embracing her crazy. Yeah. I think we're all a little crazy. I love the idea that it's like, if I always say if a man makes you feel crazy, he's not the one. Right.

Your man should not make you, your man's should not make you... That's a really good point. One girl said that to me once and I, ever since then, like the second a guy makes me like question my text or like act in ways I wouldn't act, I'm like, you're not the one. Yeah. And then I move on. That's so true. And that's why I kind of like her book.

Yeah. But I feel like she's doing it. I feel like Stasi's doing and I think we're getting that I feel I'm I'm I'm kind of Sheena's manager if you guys yes uh-huh we're planning a tour it's all happening it's all happening coming 2021 also do you know how many girls say to each other when something good happens it's all happening yes but like I know and it's just like it's a thing I know so I do I want to do because I'm like yeah shenanigans that's the name of my podcast but I'm not doing a podcast tour I'm not sitting there doing a live podcast like like I know Caitlin Bristow is done like a

podcast tour and that's exactly what it is. Stacey isn't doing a podcast tour. It's like a variety show. Yeah. And I'm like, I had this fan reach out, Kimberly Ortiz. I like to give her a shout out because it was amazing. But she was like, oh, if you do a show, because she was listening to the podcast, we did. And she was like, I was just listening to your podcast with Hannah.

And she's like, if you do a show, a tour, you should call it, it's all happening to her. And I'm like, that is so genius because it's like, it will be a variety show where it's like, it's all happening. I want this. I want the splits. We can do. speed dating with a bachelor contestant bring three single girls up from the audience do a skip from sex tips do a singing number a dance number like whatever like there's so many things that I want

to do and I'm actually meeting with a tour manager this week back in LA just to like be like okay if we were to do this do we want to pitch it as a tour do we want to maybe pitch it as a residency in Vegas again like what do we want to do with this it's going to take some time to plan Hell yeah. But take your time to do it right. You don't need to rush. There's no rush. You got Botox.

You don't need a rush. Yeah, exactly. Also, you have your eggs frozen. How is that changed your perspective on your career? It makes me. Wasn't it a career choice? No. I mean, it was just, it was more of a, I'm single and I don't see any prospects.

And if I want to have kids, I need to do this now. What age? I'm 34. But my AMH levels, which is your hormone levels, I forget what it stands for, exactly, should be. And I just saw this on, um, um, Jersey Housewives episode where Melissa is 2.83. How good is Jersey this season?

It's so good. Oh my God. Dolores is doing my podcast tomorrow. Dolores is the best. I'm obsessed with her. Oh my God, Dolores. Wait, who's the guy that she's dating? Dave.

David. David's not here. David, where's David? And it's always Frank. Frank. Frank, I love you, Frank, but you're on my nerves. Margaret Joseph's is great too. And you had Jennifer.

You had Jennifer. Okay, I'm glad that we're, it reminds me of my, like, Italian family just, like, from New Jersey. I love them. Um, okay. Do you remember one picture in your Instagram where you looked happy, but you weren't? Every picture I posted with Rob. Wait, was Rob your least happy? Honestly, I feel like Rob was my most.

I'm telling myself I'm happy, but I'm really not. Because with Shea, there were a lot of red flags. Yeah. But I still loved and adored him so much. We had such a history. And he loved and adored you. That was the thing. He really did.

He worshipped me. I love those cute high school relationships. But I grew. Yeah, but I mean, I loved him to death. He was my best friend. And that was the hardest thing in the breakup, a divorce. I mean, it wasn't just the divorce or losing a husband. It was like, I lost my best friend.

Like that was like my roommate. That was my best friend. And then, yeah, he was my husband as well. But that was my person. So that was the hardest thing for me. but then right after that it was just like oh my god rob this guy who i've like always thought about like what if what if because we never gave it a real shot that i told myself i was so happy and this was the one for me because i was like i can't have another failed public relationship like

oh my god this has to work out and when i look back at pictures like there were so many where i look so cute and happy and he doesn't and i'm like i literally had my sister go and delete every single photo with adam shay or rob from my instagram Did you start over? Did that help you? Yeah. Did you feel like you had this fantasy of what the relationship would be and then it took you while to be like, wait, this isn't, I'm not happy in this?

Yeah, I think so because he, I don't want to say he manipulated me, but I think he acted one way to my face as we see like Max. Like you acted one way to my face, but then you're saying other things behind my back. And I'm like, use your words. And I mean, thankfully nine months in, Rob did. his words and he said this isn't for me the reality show them saying i cheated on you all this like i don't want this life yeah and it crushed me but i was so thankful for that because i wouldn't have ended up in Vegas that weekend trying to get over him going to see kendra wilkinson and j rodriguez

and sex tips and then getting a call the next day as an offer to audition that never would have happened look at sorry for cursing but look at that circle yeah i love that i was talking to my friend today who got broken up with and I was like I'm sorry I love breakups I think they're orgasmic I think it's where change comes like whenever a girl or guy gets broken up with I'm like new things are around the corner and it's like a you can't see open doors until you close the one you're in and the second like I cut Adam out it was just like it was again heartbreaking because he then became my person and I know I say everyone's my best friend but like Adam was the person who got me through that breakup with Rob. He came out to Vegas every few weeks to visit me. Every time I came back to LA,

he'd pick me up and like, we had such a- And you would talk all the time. Every single day. And we had the most solid friendship. We were inseparable. But there was always that like underlying attraction. But when I met him, I was in a relationship. And then he got a girlfriend for like a couple months and we were just always friends. But I felt like it was inevitable with him and I because we were so attracted to each other and our sex was great. But it was never going to go any further was he the one you said like he was the first guy that gave you orgasms um it was him and then the guy i was casually dating last summer but it was like i got like one or two from each of them my friend it's been three four months and it can't even count how many

that's amazing well my friend has this podcast called how come or she like never had orgasm oh my god yeah she called me for this podcast and she was like you have to ask sheena if she's if she's having orgasm? Yes, I am. And it's like, but that's the thing was everyone's like, well, how do you never have that? I'm like, I really enjoy sex. It feels good. And I know the guy's getting off and he's enjoying it. And again, I'm a giver. It's my love language. So I'm like, if you're getting off and you're happy, that makes me happy. I don't need to get off. I'm fine. I just want you to be happy. I'm always all about the other person. And with Brock, he will not stop until I come. Like he's like, no, no. I'm like, come on. And like, we even got like in a fight

about it a couple weeks ago because I'm like, but if you don't, then I feel like you don't enjoy. He's like, oh yeah, I forget. Your ex has fucked you up in that sense and like you have all these like issues where I'm like because like with Rob like they're being, oh, I'm tired. I'm this. I'd work and I'm like, are you not attracted to me? Are my boobs too small? Like I really was taking consultations with doctors to get boobs even though he wasn't a boob guy and I'm not going to no. Brock says he's the mayor of the itty-bitty-titty committee and he told Alexa at my house to remember that. Also, you look like you gained 20 pounds when people like get boobie. Well, if you, like, gain extra weight.

It's just, I just can't. Your body's too little. You'll break your back. Yeah, I don't have the frame for double Ds. So, no, I'm just going to, you know, I've said when I'm 40 or 42, when, however old I am after I have a couple kids, you know, maybe get a little lift in a small implant. But I want to be the girl who really, really wants a full B. I don't want to be like, I want to be like a small C and then you end up with a double D.

No, I just want to be a full real B because when I was like 130, 35 pounds, that's what I was naturally. Yeah. But then I got. down to like 105 and I lost everything and even now at like 120 the boobs just never came back I just gained it everywhere else what was with the weight fluctuation um so in college I was anorexic my senior year Kim Kardashian wasn't a thing Paris Hilton was so being skinny was what was in in 2005 especially in L.A absolutely and I knew I wanted to get into acting the camera adds 10 pounds so I just

stopped eating for like a year and then I moved out to L.A. I never was really a big drinker never party never did drugs smoked weed nothing and then here comes 22 my birthday i was dating this i'm not going to say who but this actor who i had the biggest crush on that like he was on a show that i watched when i was in college we started dating we started partying i started drinking a lot more and then you know you get drunk and then you're a late night of bosanova at four a m eating bread and pasta and shit and it just was an extreme weight gain that i got up to like i think the biggest i was was like 133 and I'm 5-5 and it wasn't a healthy 133 it wasn't muscle it was just partying and everyone has a healthy weight that you feel like your best yeah and for me now that's like 115 to 120 I have an

ass I still have my small waist but it's like I look healthy yeah and after I got up to that then I got married I was probably around 125 and I had the crop top wedding dress with like my iconic my roles and thank you but iconic it was I didn't have the body to wear that though it was like all my photos had to be photoshopped and then ones that made it in magazines weren't photoshopped and then I was just like I got really insecure so I got with a trainer and I did it the healthy way but then I got back down to like 107 and then I was too skinny but I was the healthiest I'd ever been so moving to Vegas eating all of those amazing restaurants even though I was working out every day and dancing every night I naturally

put the weight back on that now I mean it would take a very strong diet and exercise you get back under 110, which I don't want to be. I'm very happy with the weight I'm at now. It's just like, tighten in tone. It's so, I mean, I love how open and honest you're being. Like, I thought I was going to have to push you harder, but you were just killing the game. I'm an open book. You're killing the game.

But I want to let you know that when you're wearing that crop top, like, I thought you looked stunning. And I remember even seeing like a normal, like, look at me right now. When you sit, when you're, it's called skin with a little bit of fat because that's who you are. And I think as you're older and more confident, like I heard in your third. is that it becomes too easy. You're just like, this is me, bitch.

Yeah, like, you know what? I'm happy, and I'm like, my clothes still fit. Okay, because we have to wrap up soon, I'm going to play our final game of the Seven Deadly Sins. Seven Deadly Sins. What are you greedy about?

Wait, this is hard. I don't think I'm really a greedy person, but I would say, I mean, in like a positive way but like when it comes to like a business deal with like trying to get like you know as much money as I can because that's like my life but I wouldn't necessarily say that's greedy is you good at negotiating um I have people who do it for me who are better because I'm too nice I'll just like settle and be like okay that's fine I'll literally be like they have a family probably like they need to pay their my I need people to I'm so I'll do shit for free

yeah I do too and that's the thing and then it's like I hate it because then I have like friends who have known for a long time it's like can you shout out my company can you And then it's like, then I'm doing these favors for free because you're my friend. But it's like, I also have a business and a brand that I can't just do shit for free. So. Do you find like the amount of people that reach out to you for asking things of you has been just like insane over the time? Yeah. And I think people just think because you like, you know, had a social studies class with them back in 10th grade that like you owe them something.

Yeah. And I'm like, I don't even remember your last name. Like that's the one thing me of page of notice the most is like, our phones, they're just people like reaching out to get stuff. The biggest pet peeve I have is when people ask me to follow them. Whether it's a fan or someone I know,

I only follow 420. It's been that way since I have social media. If I follow someone new, I have to unfollow someone. And I only follow people I know have met in person. I don't even really follow any celebrities. Like sometimes if my Instagram drops to 419,

I'll follow Kim Kardashian just until the next person I meet, I need to follow. Because they stay up, 420 and it's like and I hate when people are like it would make my life can you please follow me because I'm like if I followed everyone who asked I would be Schwartz because he literally does that and he follows like 7,000 people but then you never see the people in your like close friends and family who you want to see their stories and stuff because you're following 7000 people and also you feel like you're the asshole because you're not making this person's life even though

they're saying you would but it's like you have to put boundaries and that's what a people pleaser has to teach themselves and that's one one boundary I have like I'll go comment on your photos I'll send you a video I'll do other things but like I'm not going to follow people I don't know because I just I care about seeing the people I'm closest with slides and not a stranger but I'll comment I'll shout out I do cameos every day I love doing that but it's just like the following thing you don't have to defend yourself and and photos when I'm eating that is the only time I'll say no that is like my one boundary I also if you're at dinner and people want I just say as soon as I'm done Like absolutely let me just finish my dinner as soon as I'm done because I'm like I have broccoli in my teeth

I like my food hot like I just just don't interrupt me in these like 20 30 minutes I'm sitting down I eat really quick like probably too quick and it's probably bad for my metabolism but it's like that's the only time like for example of how I never say no to photos we were at a music festival a couple months ago of course and I just had a little too much alcohol in my body and I was like where's the nearest trash? can and I just I'm so sick and then like Brock was so sweet and he's like let me take you to the bathroom I'm like okay and as we're walking to the bathroom I was like nope nope nope again not joking a third time and after that I was like I'm like go give me napkin get me gum get me no and I'm like oh my god I'm like I'm freaking out because I'm like I never get sick but it was just I hadn't eaten that much I'm just drinking it was dumb and after the third time I threw up he like grabs me a napkin and a piece of gum and as I'm putting the gum in my mouth wiping my mouth this girl goes excuse me can I get a photo and I'm like sure smiled and took a photo I was like oh my god so after

I throw up totally down and take a photo but if I'm eating no not at the dinner table so I feel like growing up in L.A you probably like to be an actor like you wanted fame yeah has fame been better or worse than you thought um I think it's kind of been everything I thought it would be but I'm still waiting for the more. Okay. Like I, I want to do, and I mean, this is a personal thing that I'm, I'm the only one who can do this, but I want to do more with the platform I have. I mean, 1.1 million people is a lot.

It's not a ton compared to so many other influencers and what the Kardashians can do. But even just with the brush fires in Australia, that was like one thing. I'm like, I'm going to use my platform to raise as much money as I can because I love the koalas and the king. kangaroos and it just was heartbreaking seeing all this and especially dating someone who's from there and his family you know they're being affected by the smoke and I have friends being evacuated and that was like the first thing in a while that I'm like okay this is something I'm passionate about and I want to put more into and I really want to start doing more about anti-bullying because

like I can donate money to St. Jude and the ASPCA which I do monthly like all day long but I want to do more than just giving money like whether it's going to speak at colleges about bullying or things that I can actually relate to, I just, I need to do more and I need to do better because I know I can. I think I just kind of gotten a slump the last couple of years and it was just like I felt like I wasn't good enough and it was just like Adam and Max and every guy in between. I'm just like, no one wants me. I'm not good enough. I'm like, I'm making all this money, but I'm not happy. And it's just like, yeah, money makes things easier, but it doesn't always make you happy. And helping people.

makes me happy and I don't know why I haven't been doing more of that publicly and I feel like it sounds like your understanding kind of what makes you tick yeah and like guys actually aren't really a factor no the guy came without you trying yeah no pun intended um who are you envious of um we talked about this a little bit on my podcast but stasi and I love her and I'm so proud of her and like I just texted her the other day congrats on buying her house I had a diet doctor pepper in my hand cheers to you and but it's like and it's it's not a jealousy thing it's I'm I'm envious of she has the career that I've always wanted and I'm still working to get she's just a couple steps ahead of me did you think that she was capable of this I think we're all capable of it I really do yeah

I think she just did it quicker I think her priorities were more work and mine honestly were more dating for a while and that was kind of my focus and I was doing so well with the show and financially that I'm like well I'm good like now I just need to find my forever and then the more you know the more seasons that have passed and it's like this isn't going to go on forever and now just seeing how much she has built her career it's like as much as I'm envious of it it's so motivating for me to just like you know what if you can do it I can do it and like if Stasi can find love I can find love I said she's the only girl on the show who's dated guys worse than me so it's like I I mean, I genuinely look up to her, and it's like, she has just, like, set the mood where it's like,

okay, we're seeing that this works. Yeah. You know, people want to read books from the Vanderpump Girls. People want to go to a live show. And I'm just like, it just, it does it. It makes me happy to see that she's doing so well. She's inspiration. Exactly.

And that's the thing where it's like, I don't want to say that I'm like, envious and jealous in a negative way. It's just, it is motivating and it's pushing me to do what I want to. to do because I'm like my whole life I've always wanted to do a tour of any sort whether that is a speaking at colleges anti-bullying tour a book tour a singing tour a just anything like that's something I've always wanted to do and I'm like I see her doing it and I'm like why am I not trying to do this like what like Stossie is the only person who can do a live show like I did one in Vegas for five months like this is something I've already done but then after that I moved back to L.A. I started banging my best friend and then there was another season of the show and then a year passed

and then there was max and it was just like I'm like why did I waste this last year dude sometimes boys are so fucking time consuming yeah like you have to respond to them all the time and it was fully taking care of Adam for like a year literally in every way take him on walks make sure you get enough to eat make sure he gets enough his curfew change him okay what are you gluttonous about like what's your go-to junk food or like thing you love to do Mexican food or pasta. Oh, yes. For sure.

L.A. has the best Mexican food. I mean, I could eat tacos and enchiladas and pasta every day, every meal forever. Honestly, same. We have the same diet. And beer, beer. I love beer. Really? I do.

That was one thing I had to give up for a while. But now it's like, I'll enjoy, like, on a football Sunday, I'll have a couple beers, but I know that's also what gave me a gut. Yeah, and you're getting along with the Australian guy because I know those guys can, it's like water to them. Oh, totally. Um, when was the last time you experienced extreme wrath, so anger? Ooh. You don't really step on the show.

A couple nights ago when Brock went out and then came home and his phone died and he fell asleep and I didn't hear from him until the next day. And I was like, what? And then he was like, whoa. So you broke down his door, threatened to burn out of the house. Well, no, I was in Palm Springs and he was in San Diego. So I ended up getting a hold of him. And I knew. but it was like in my head like I go to so many dark places of like oh my god like not he's cheating

on me that is not even an issue like I would never think that I trust him 100 percent but I'm just like what if something happened what if you got in a car accident what if he was walking home and got like what it's like it's like it just my head went to so many places that I just like freaked out on him and I was like I didn't like how I felt and he's like I don't ever want to see you feel like that again I was like I don't ever want to feel like that again but it was like a 15 minute like ordeal and then it was over and fine. Exactly. And also it shows that you guys can fight and then move on. Yeah. I'm shipping this so hard. Thanks. Um, we're almost done. When was the last time you were a sloth? Like, do you ever, are you ever a lazy piece of shit? Yeah, totally. Cool. Um, two days ago. Well, you like to smoke weed. You like something out. Oh, I love to just smoke weed, sit on the couch,

eat top ramen and binge. And yeah, like, I'm on the community app. So, like, fans can, like, live text me. Do you like that? Yeah. Or is invasive. I know I love it. So my number I'm putting it out there is 310-2-99-9-3-24. And I will just sit on my phone for hours and respond to fans because the community app is full of people who are fans of mine who give positive reinforcement and tell me the things

that like, not just that I want to hear, but things that also like help me. And I'm like, what do you guys want to see more of on my podcast, on my Instagram story? And it's such a great outlet to- They're like your people. Yeah. Because you get, I mean, it's like Yelp. The people who are tweeting stuff and writing stuff on your Instagram

a lot of the time is people who are complaining and want to make you feel bad. Exactly. You're not going to go on Yelp and be like, this is the best dinner of my life. You're going to be like, that food was cold, the service was shit. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Exactly. Sheena's service at Sir was a nightmare. Anyway. That's why I stopped taking tables for a while. I was like, I would rather perform on the bar and show up and take photos than wait tables because I was getting negative Yelp reviews because I was taking photos

and not paying attention to the tape. And I'm like, You know where you're coming to dinner. Come on. Like, I'm doing three jobs at once. I'm talking to people. I'm taking your order and I'm taking photos. I'm doing all of that at the same time.

So after that, I was like, fuck this. How do you deal with the energy of every time you go to a table, people being like, Sheena? I mean, I just embrace it. Like, it just,

it makes people's days coming to sir and seeing us and meeting us. And because I've had several relatable storylines. I'm like, I can't deal with people. Yeah. I'm really good with people. I always tell people,

if you see me out come up say hi give me a hug i'm not a germaphobe just don't interrupt my dinner i do i do i am like i love when people say hi to me but like working at sir feels like a meet and greet yeah and like meeting greets are intense definitely um final question when was the last time you lusted over someone lust i mean honestly it was probably adam like because lust isn't like a a good thing um so also i feel like because you didn't fuck him for so long yeah you were like wanted it more yeah so yeah i think that was the last time because like with brock we just had such a natural connection and i really was trying to push him away because he was just so good and i was like this is too good to be true like this can't be real and then after a few weeks he wouldn't let me

push him away and i was just i gave in but it wasn't like a lust thing it was just just such a genuine connection that I finally had to accept and I've never been happier well you guys Sheena survived hell with flying colors one question I'd like to wrap it up with is what advice would you give to the burning hell listeners on how to cope with your hell I think just admitting it and owning it and just like embracing the things that are wrong and I am not against therapy I think everyone should go to therapy and as happy as I am and in such a good place in my life right now I just told Brock last week I'm like I think I might want to go back to therapy and he's like if that's what you feel you need because I'm like there are things that he is as close to perfect as it gets I mean he's amazing but I have

so many insecurities from past relationships that come over to him like I knew 99% of my rational brain knew he went home fell asleep and forgot to charge his phone he never charges his phone I give him a mofee he forgets to charge the mofie i knew that that's what it was but that one person of me remembered the night that she left and never came home and got wasted and did this and then it was just like all of these things that it's like it's so unfair to him but it's just but he's getting all of you and it sounds like you should buy him an apple watch he got AirPods so where can people follow you and where should people listen to you and watch you so my instagram snapchat and Twitter is at Sheena

S-C-H-E-A-N-A and new episodes of shenanigans usually come out on Tuesdays unless I have an awesome guest like Dolores this week. We're releasing on Thursday and yeah stay tuned for Warren. Watch Vanderpump. Watch that show. Sheena, love you so much. I love you. I'll

talk to you guys later in hell. Yeah. Bye. Bye. Thank you.