Berner Phone - Things That Are Embarrassing That Shouldn't Be

Episode Date: March 23, 2026

This week, Des is solo and fired up by your responses to the question, "What is embarrassing that shouldn't be?" From waiting too long in a buffet line to using the bathroom on a plane, Des breaks down some of the most unnecessarily embarrassing moments we all deal with.   Leave us a voicemail: https://telbee.io/channel/msnxcnbe39nmb9rpvbi_eq/index.html   FOLLOW DES: Tickets: https://punchup.live/desbishop Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/desbishop Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/desbishop X: https://x.com/desbishop YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Desbishopcomedy TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@desbishop5   FOLLOW HANNAH: Tickets: https://hannahberner.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hannahberner/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@HannahBerner X: https://x.com/beingbernz TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hannah_berner Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/officialhannahberner/   FOLLOW NICOLE: https://www.instagram.com/nicoleclyons/   Produced by Nicole Lyons Productions Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolelyonsproductions/ Website: www.nicolelyonsproductions.com

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Hi, it's Hannah Burner. And Des Bishop. Thanks for calling the burner phone. If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast. All right. Hello, my little dials. Welcome to Burner Phone. It's Des here.

Chris isn't with us today, but we have Nicole. Hey, what's up? We have Nicole, a female voice producing today. And I know Nicole from doing Karen Fien's podcast. and we're also ACL reconstruction brothers and sisters, but we won't bore the dialers with any ACL stories. They've heard enough. By the way, I have to point out that,

I don't know if I said this on the pod before, but to the gigglers out there that come to my shows, I'm always very appreciative, but I have had a funny situation a couple of times, because I have an intro to one of my jokes where I say I tore my ACL two years ago. And numerous times, gigglers have been like, we know. Like, I get, I get heckled by the gigglers because they, like, know every minutia of my life because Hannah tells these stories. So I am aware, perhaps, that there is some ACL story fatigue amongst a certain contingent of our podcast.

So anyway, Nicole and I have bonded over our torn ACL. else and a love of pit bulls, Nicole. Yes, I have a pit bull name Raspberry. She's the best. So this is a pit bull positive podcast, as you know. And I am outside of Albuquerque, New Mexico. I am being lit very nicely by the desert sun here in the Santa Ana Star Casino. And it's been very interesting because it really is a gig in the middle of nowhere.

It's called Kazadas, and it's named after Stephen Michael Kazada, who played Gomi on Breaking Bad for all those seasons. Hank's, if you watched Breaking Bad, Hank's partner in crime in Breaking Bad, as a huge Breaking Bad fan who watched it originally and then watched it again with Hannah, this was a huge deal for me because last night, Stephen Michael Kazada came to my show,

so I was hanging out with him, and he was the nicest guy. This is not a big name-dropping podcast, but as a Breaking Bad fan, man, this was huge for me. So I'm here with dry skin in the desert. Not to give too much detail, but my scrotum really struggles with the desert. I get a very dry scrotum.

And it's been difficult for me. But it has been worth it because I got to meet Gomi from Breaking Bad and didn't rent a car, which has been the biggest regret of my life, because I've had to get Ubers and the Ubers take forever here. And I think that's great. Everybody has a car, but it's been a very frustrating morning for me,

so I'm very happy to get here and talk to you, the dialers, where I don't have to wait for my Uber driver to pick me up to get a decent cup of coffee. So you really came through this week, Dialers. I know last week on the pod, we said it was open season free for all, message in whatever you want, but that didn't work, okay? And that's nobody's fault. That's my own fault. It didn't work in that, like, there just, there wasn't like,

I feel like, you know, there needs to be like a bit more structure. So yesterday I put out the prompt, which came in from a dialer on Instagram. What is embarrassing that shouldn't be? Which was an incredible, just an incredible prompt. You guys came in in the hundreds. So let's get into it. Very lighthearted, very funny, Nicole. It's your, there's no order.

So you can go in order or you can pick whichever one you want. All right, let's start here. Things that are embarrassing that shouldn't be. Armpit sweat showing through your shirt. It happens to all of us. Sweating is normal and healthy, but it's so embarrassing. It's so embarrassing. Love you guys.

I mean, I couldn't be more in agreement, and I'm a big sweater. Hannah is also a big sweater. She literally has a campaign talking about her armpits. sweat and I've always had a problem if you actually I don't recommend people go back and try to find them but my first two Irish specials uh particularly the second actually both of them I was just wearing like a button down shirt because I didn't have a stylist and uh I'm saturated and I can't even watch them today like when I when I try to find clips from like these specials are from like 2003, 2004. When I try to find a clip from them, I'm like, I can't put this up because I have such

visible armpit sweat. And then at one stage, I turn around to do a joke about like Irish women by the fire. And my back is so disgustingly wet that I'm like, I'm disgusted by myself. And I don't know why that's so embarrassing because it's just the sweat from my effort to perform, you know like how do you feel nicole when you get like sweaty i had like a brief stint with a natural deodorant and it didn't go well for me it was it was i was really sweaty all the time and it didn't smell that good to stick oh it didn't smell right no but i wear a lot of dark colors too i think because i'm scared of the sweat i am embarrassed yes what see that's one of the great things when i switched the suits i was like oh this is amazing now i don't have to worry about

the the sweat thing but i you know so So I've been heckled sometimes in my career where people would be like, you could see your armpit sweat or something. And my joke is always like, oh my God, how horrible that you can see the evidence of the effort that I am making to entertain you here. Because I'm putting my heart and soul into this performance, you know, because I'm an over performer. You know, that's the whole thing. So that would always be my joke. but honestly, I would actually be embarrassed. Like, and once I know, once I know that like, that the ring is there, then I'll, like,

I'll, like, latch my arms, you know, like, I'll put my elbows in tight to, like, try to avoid it. But then you're all, like, you're all uptight. You're losing, like, the natural flow of yourself. So I think there needs to be a campaign. You know, I think part of the problem is the marketing is always like, so what was it back in the day? was never let them see you sweat. I think it was sure deodorant. I can't remember which deodorant it was,

but it was never let them see you sweat. And like they literally created a whole campaign of like, if you're sweating, that's evidence that you're like struggling or nervous. And while I know there's a bit of science on like if you're nervous or uptight, there will be more sweat. But like sweat is not a 100% guarantee

that you're sorry. struggling in any way. It's also a sign that you're like excited, like the adrenaline's up. So I actually think whoever that deodorant marketing campaign, whoever ran that is responsible for a lot of sweat shame. And I think, you know, there's a lot of campaigns about, you know, not shaming people for different things, you know, body shaming. But I think there needs to be an overall campaign about some of the lesser things that we should. shame people about that aren't really a thing. And sweating is one of them. So I really appreciate this from the dialer. Hit us up in the Spotify comments if you get embarrassed by your own sweat.

Now, in saying that, Hannah is currently doing a campaign with Dove. And Hannah is very happy to find ways to block her sweat because she is not as much of a campaigner against the shame. She's more just trying to avoid the sweat spots. And I'm, I'm fine with that also. So let's take another one, please, Nicole. Oh boy, do I have a lot of these as a girlie with ridiculous anxieties? But the first one that comes to mind is being at a buffet with your plate in your hand and you're like waiting for people to move out of the way so you can use the tongs to put

more French fries on your stupid plate. like a bunch of little rats like please can I have more food sir something very embarrassing about it I have a lot of buffet anxiety actually it starts with which side are we starting on because like it's all easy when the buffet line has already been created you know then it's very easy to know which side you're supposed to start on. But like, God forgive me for being an elitist, but say you're at the Delta Sky Club. And it's not clear which side we're starting from. So sometimes you get that awkward situation where you're like meeting in the middle and you got to do like the dance of like, you know, I'll go around you. Right. So that's number one. Which side do you start on in the buffet?

Right. Number two, I actually, I get embarrassed. for people who are in front of me that are like taken ages, you know? Like that's embarrassing for them, even though it shouldn't be. But it's just like, I don't know, like, is there a regulation on like how many times are you allowed to go back to the carrots or the string beans with the tongs before like your time is up, you know? But then, but then on the flip side, right? How much anxiety do you have when you're grabbing the food from the plate or the pan that's like further back? So, you know, there's always like the section that's at the back of the thing. So you've got to go over something else, right?

So God forbid you drop a string bean or a carrot like into the mashed potatoes, right? And then you've left like a gravy stain. and Nicole, you haven't been around, but people know that I have a real thing about, like, cross-contamination. You know, I really get freaked out if there's like a bit of ketchup that, you know, like accidentally in the wrong section, right?

So, and we've all done that, right? Like, we've accidentally dropped. I don't mind if I drop it off to the side. I say, okay, I'm a mess. Okay? No big deal. But if you drop something in the food, now you've affected everybody else's mashed potatoes, right?

So that, that's, that's, nerve-wracking enough. Or sometimes you get like bad tongs or you're just like you're picking up a food. Oh, I'll give an example. Right. Sometimes they don't have like a spoon for the Brussels sprouts. They just have like the tongs. And it's like, oh, so now I got to go one Brussels sprout at a time. This is not like, now everyone's going to be counting my Brussels sprouts like the count from fucking Sesame Street. It's like one Brussels sprout, two Brussels. You know, I don't want people to be like that in my business, right? So that is anxiety inducing. And then honestly, same thing with the cross contamination. Like if you're at like the salad bar. And honestly, salad bars that just shit's going

everywhere. Corn is, you know, corn is getting in the, in the shredded carrots. And that just happens. I guess that's just part of life. But then when you get to the dressing, like, you know, it's just very hard to not have a drip of the dressing. And I, don't want to drip, you know, my balsamic in somebody's Russian, you know. So there's just a lot. It's a very food is like, I don't know, it's kind of like a private thing. And the buffet is very public. And I'm not anti-buffe. I mean, one of the biggest routines I ever wrote in Ireland was about the carvery, which is what, what they call a kind of a buffet in Ireland. But it's like very much around like beef or ham. So the carvary is like, you know, you're carving the meat. But, you know,

I'm a big I'm a big buffet guy But I do get I do get anxiety And then is there anything worse when you finish everything And then you realize oh fuck the fork and knife We're at the beginning So then you got to go back And like if there's a long line especially

Then you got to be like sorry excuse me Can I get through there? I get the knife and fork you know And then you're like do I get my drink now And then leave my plate Do I leave my plate down Next to the drink thing while I'm getting my drink Or is that like

Is that disgusting? think like do so do i go back to my table leave down my thing and then get the drink oh of course if you have a tray that's another story okay that that's what the tray is for but like that's very cafeteria like you know sometimes it's not really like a tray situation particularly like the delta sky club again so like it's like do i go back and put the thing down and then get my drink you know oh and then god this has really set me off um so if you're in like a lounge or any situation where you're getting the coffee you ever get so you know these like very practical clean but like no frills hotels even like the big brands like marriott hilton they all have

the kind of like side of the highway um you know i can't even think of like the ones that you you know you have like hilton you know they all have this like version which i actually quite like them i like the no frills nature but one and and like there's a lot of like you know you know salespeople and like driving people, they're like into their, you know, they're all similar, like home to sweets. They're all similar, right? But a lot of them advertise a free breakfast in the morning. And it's kind of this like nice but basic no frills breakfast, right? But in a lot of those, the coffee is from the machine, right? And that is embarrassing when it shouldn't be just how long, especially when there's like a line, right? So now you're lining up for your coffee.

I haven't had it yet. So you're not in the best mood. Right. And then like you get there and the fucking buttons aren't pressing. And, you know, so that, that's also kind of stressful. So there's just a lot of like public sharing of food situations that like I find extreme. And honestly, I have another one, which is I love yogurt, granola fruit. And can we just, can we put this out there into the universe. Okay. The bowls at these fucking breakfast places are never big enough. They're all child-sized bowls.

I get it. You're trying to stop the kid from overdosing on cocoa pops, right? You know, you're trying to stop the kid from going too much with the fucking twisty. Like, what a recipe. Speaking of recipes for disaster, the twisty cereal dispenser. Who the fuck came up with that idea? That is the dumbest shit ever. All that ever does is make a mess.

You got fruit loops in a fucking dispenser, right? And then you give a small bowl because you're trying to stop these kids from having diabetes by the age of 20. And I get it, okay? We're trying to do portion control with the bowl. But I'm an adult man, okay? And I can't fit the amount of yogurt, fruit, and granola I want. Right? So then I basically, I've never not overfilled my bowl in any of these places with the insanely small bowls, which is everywhere.

nowhere has a good size bowl in a buffet right so then i always overfill and my first to second bite is a disaster i can't and i'm dropping granola all over the place and this is by design and i don't know why they're like i as far as i concern if you want to have fruit you got a you got fruit you got yogurt you got granola sometimes you got you know like uh fruit compote which is like the most amazing thing ever right if you're putting all that stuff out there give me a vest that I can fit it all on. Right? Otherwise, what's the point? So it's not something that I've thought about a lot,

but this is just, this is just, I think there may be a routine in it, but I'm just visualizing all these like very sanitary looking buffets that I've been in recently traveling around the American road. Oh, oh my God, is there anything worse than when you're in one of these hotels and all the plates are paper, cardboard, even the bowls. It's like you're giving me a paper bowl and a plastic, a plastic fork.

I mean, it's just a plastic spoon. It's a guarantee this is going everywhere. Because you know what happens with these plastic spoons sometimes, right? Like, they're so light that they like, they like flick up. And next thing you're literally like starting to fucking food fight. Like entirely, everything about it isn't practical. So thank you, so. much for this one. I really, you really have, you've inspired me. You know, people, so one of the,

one of the running themes recently, Nicole, is that people like to fall asleep to this podcast, but I feel like this is not a very sleepy one because I, I'm, I'm like quite worked up. But can I just say that Albuquerque, right, Aiden and I went to, my brother's with me, Aiden and I went to old, old town, Albuquerque, which is very cool. You literally feel like you're back in like, you know, Western or it's pre-America 1709. I went to this church. 1709. It was very interesting, you know, and there's a real like Native American influence here, the Pueblo Indians, and like the whole thing is just very cool. But anyway, I've noticed a lot of local people in Albuquerque. They kind of like to make fun of Albuquerque. Like, there's nothing to do. But actually, they have, we went to two different

coffee shops and they were incredible. So I had a pour over in trifecta coffee shop in Albuquerque. and then Aiden and I, in the old town, we went to Blackbird coffee shop, which was also amazing. So I am heavily, heavily caffeinated today, I have to point out. I was hitting, I had three different black coffees. I had a Colombian pour of it, which was in crazy. And then I had an El Salvador was more of a medium roast. And then in Blackbird, I had whatever there brew was, but she explained it to me. But anyway, it was a slightly darker roast, but also incredible.

So I'm heavily caffeinated with a lot of. let's face it, like, I'm not very, like, nerdy or wanky about anything, but there are certain things like severance to the TV show and coffee these days. So Aiden was telling me that I should do like a bar stool, you know, like, wait, what's his name? Biggest asshole of all time. Dave Portnoy does his pizza tasting that I should do like a coffee one around America. But, of course, I'm never organized enough.

So anyway, that is why you're getting a very passionate, analysis of buffets. But let's go on to the next one, Nicole. Thank you very much. Something that's embarrassing that shouldn't be is crossing the street when a car is waiting for you. Like, if a car is at a red light

and you're crossing, no big deal. But if you're crossing and the car has to stop and wait for you, it's just embarrassing. And like, I'm going to cross because I want to get where I'm going and, like, I'm pedestrian. I know I have the right of way.

I know I'm not doing anything wrong, but like, I don't know. I'm like holding everybody up. Where do I look? What do I do with my hands? Do I wave? I try to do like a little quick wave to be like, thank you. But I feel like they're pissed because I know when I'm behind the wheel waiting for someone to walk by. I'm like, come on, motherfucker.

Move. Like, I'm a little pissed. Yeah. I mean, again, honestly, this has been my favorite prompt for a long time because I have so many thoughts on this, all right? Number one, we all know that there are two different perceptions, that when you're behind the wheel and when you're not, okay? And when you're behind the wheel, everyone else is an asshole.

And when you're the pedestrian or the cyclist, the driver's the asshole, right? But what nobody wants to admit, nobody wants to admit, but she's kind of admitting this, is that we've been both of those people, okay? So like, we're both two-faced when it comes to how much we judge our opponent in whatever the sort of road interaction is, right? Now, I am a sort of light wave person on the pedestrian crosswalk thing. What's your take on this, Nicole?

Do you feel you have to give the... You wave, right? Yeah, I do a little wave, a little thank you, and then I scurry across. I'm never walking. I'm going to fully run across. But this is my thing. The pressure to scurry.

Yeah. There shouldn't be scurry pressure. This is the issue, right? Why are we scurrying? Okay. So I've been in Miami a lot this winter, right? So Miami is absolute chaos for driving, but they have very well signposted pedestrian crosshawks

where you press the button and they flash. And largely, not always, but mostly the drivers respect that, right? You know, and when it turns on, I'm walking across. say Biscayne Boulevard, right? And I'm giving the wave, but even though my knee is shot, we're not going to go there. I know everyone's sick of it, but my knee is a fucking disaster, okay? And I can't scurry, all right? My scurrying abilities have been seriously hampered, right?

But I'm still trying to scurry. I'm doing as much of a scurry as one can do in my sort of weak quad situation. But I'm also going, why am I doing this? Like, it is my right to cross the street. Everyone that's waiting for me, despite their probable impatience, has also crossed the street in their life. Like, we've all been pedestrians and drivers. So why am I feeling so guilty? You know?

Is it because I'm Catholic, or is it because I'm human? I don't really know, but I know that I'm feeling this pressure to scurry that shouldn't be there. Now, I'm sure there's some dialers that are listening that are thinking, like, no, I don't. I just saunter because it is my role. to cross this street, right? And listen, I actually, I think in my lifetime of being the driver, that there have been some people that have been indulging in the power of knowing that it's my time to wait, right? So I do think there's the flip side to this, which is the anti-scarrier, right? Who's, like, what's less than a saunter? What's, what's like a foot? What's, what's when you're

deliberately being slow. What's the what's the description of that verb? A meander? A meander. A meandering across the street. What makes it sound as like relaxed and leisurely as possible? You're going on an adventure. Yeah. Well, let's call them the meanderer for now. We can find a new term in the future. But when I see a meanderer who's basically kind of like, you have to wait for me. Fucking deal with it.

I don't like that person either. But I do feel like there's a place in between the meander and the scurry, which is the right. That's the speed that you should be comfortable at. You shouldn't even feel the need to wave. Because here's the thing about the wave, which I always do. But the wave is suggesting that you're doing me a favor. But they're really not, you know? Because like when somebody's at a red light and I have the green man, as we say in Ireland,

you know, when I have the walk sign, right? I don't wave. I don't wave at the red light people because they know it's not their time to move, right? And when I'm at the pedestrian crosswalk, even like a zebra crossing, which I feel like Americans don't respect as much as in Europe. But even at like a pedestrian crosswalk, like I feel like the cars do me a favor to stop, even though they're not. So I'll wave, but I'll never wave at the red light.

So the reality is we should never be waving. Now, I don't mind because it's like polite, right? But like the driver's not waving at me if I'm scurrying. I'm not getting any appreciation for my scurry despite the fact that I'm like hobbling across out of fear of offending this person. I'm not getting any thank you for the scurry. So why the fuck am I thanking them for just doing what they have to do?

It's literally the rule of the road. So it really is a lot going on with the pedestrian crosswalk. Now, a hundred percent a wave if, let's say, you're on a busy road and you're not at a crosswalk, but for whatever reason, somebody has to cross or like it's an old woman that's like doesn't have the pace to get across and the allotted time like I'm very happy to just be there and I don't need a wave right so in that situation I guess I'm being the nice person I guess that's I'm going beyond my obligations right

but you want to be a good person so in that situation you know I guess a wave is warranted I don't expect it, but that might be a time where you, it actually is a favor. And really, this just goes down to sort of, it's the weird thing of like all these prompts, or everyone that message in is basically like it's in our heads so much of this shit, you know? And most importantly, once you're done, whether you're scurrying or meandering, once you're across the street, your relationship with this random person is most likely over for life. so why the fuck do we care at all? Do you know what I mean?

That's what's so weird. Why do we care? That's one of the baffling mysteries of humanity. And more importantly, why do some people care more than others? That's what I would like to get down. Because I have to be honest, on the spectrum of caring, I'm high up on the caring spectrum. And I wish I wasn't.

You know, I'm in that people pleasing, care what other people think, you know, sort of constantly aware of how people are perceiving me part of the spectrum. Honestly, I'm jealous of the meanderous, honestly. You know, unless, of course, they're doing it for attention themselves, and that's a whole other, that's a whole other part of the spectrum. But anyway, another great, very triggering prompt. Let's go for another one, Nicole, thank you. It's time to chat about Wayfair. It's actually one of my favorite things to chat about because my house is full to the brim with Wayfair, particularly the house out in West Hampton. I mean, it's just so handy.

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Join the loyalty program for renters at joinbilt.com slash burn. That's J-O-I-N-B-I-L-T-com slash burn. Make sure to use our URL so they know we sent you. Hey, guys. One thing that's embarrassing that shouldn't be is going to the bathroom on an airplane. Like, why am I mortified and embarrassed every time I get up? I feel like I'm walking through an aisle where everybody's eyes are on me. I'm just trying to use the lavatory.

I will say, though, don't ever eat in and out before flying, because I did for the first time eat in. in and out. And then I flew. And about 30 minutes left in my flight, I woke up to the sweats. And I went to the bathroom. And I was in there for a while because I couldn't stop shitting my brains out. And the flight attendant knocked on the door and asked if I was okay. And I was like, yeah. And then I ended up clogging the toilet because I wiped too much. And then I couldn't get it unclogged. And so I was horrified. And I got out, went to my seat, heard the flight attendant flushing the bathroom toilet over and over. And I was like, oh my God, I did that. I'm horrified. I'm

horrified that was embarrassing but in general it shouldn't be embarrassing using a lavatory on a plane bye i mean first of all you got two sides to this because the second one is genuinely embarrassing that's like that's universally embarrassing okay and kind of my nightmare uh what i will say though is you know what's embarrassing and shouldn't be is when the toilet's not flushing and it's not your fault. So then you're like, oh my God, like, I've left this and now it's not flushing. And then you're like, you're suddenly like in a stranger's bathroom, like trying to resolve their plumbing issue just to avoid like the slight embarrassment of being like, yo, I dropped a fucking a bomb in there and it's not flushing. It's not your fault. But your situation, that's it. I've seen a couple of times,

like when the air, the, the flight attendants are like, war, about what's going on in the bathroom. And then the people get out. I actually had one recently where we were like, we were like literally all like kind of laughing about the situation, you know? And I felt bad because when the person came out, it was like, yeah, we've been kind of like laughing.

Obviously, I didn't let them know, but it was like a joke that we were all in on. But they were in there for like a long time. Now, I was delighted because I don't know if I mentioned it, but I have an issue with my knees. so when I'm flying, I like to get up as much as possible. So unless I'm like bursting for a pee, which I actually never allow myself to get in that situation

because I actually have flight pee anxiety. Like I have an anxiety of like being desperate to pee and then suddenly there's like really bad turbulence and then I can't actually get up to pee. So the minute I feel a hint of needing to pee, I get up and go to the bathroom. And I actually do have paranoia about going the bathroom more because I go to the bathroom a lot on a plane because actually it's an excuse to move

and then I also am just like like honestly half the time I'm in there like I hardly have to pee but I'm just like kind of forcing one out just as like something to do to like break up the flight but then after a while I'm like I spent a two hour flight it's like the fourth time I've gone for a piss these people debt like they think there's something wrong with me they think I'm like a co-cat or you know I have like some sort of digestive issues but I don't I'm just like it's just like a stupid habit I got into to keep, you know, like to keep it moving. Actually, do you know what I really have anxiety about? Not embarrassment, but anxiety is like, some people, like the fastest seatbelt sign is on, right?

Even sometimes after the pilot has been like, we've begun our initial descent, you know, get ready to land. I'm like, these motherfuckers will get up and use the bathroom. And the flight attendants never say anything. But in my mind, I'm like, aren't we not supposed to be doing this? but I'm jealous because every now and then I've left it too late right and then I'm like oh shit man I think I have to pee and then you're like well it's only 20 minutes till we land I'll be fine unless you land and they're like oh sorry our gate's not ready uh oh you know and now you can't get up because we're on an active runway that's what makes me laugh like oh we're on an active runway God forbid you know like what what could happen while we're on this active runway you know some of the safety stuff is kind of crazy I'm sure some pilots or some flight attenders will call in and say why that's actually like a really important time to not be moving around but anyway needless to say uh i i really am jealous of the people that have the courage to get up when the fast and seatbelt

sign is on and you know what's really annoying when like the pilots like guys we're stopping service uh we're going to have some really bad turbines i'm going to tell my flight attendants to sit down for a while uh we're going to have some really bad turbines and then you have like bad turbines for like 90 seconds right and then it calms and then it's like flat for ages but the flight attendants are still sitting down and eventually you're like i think we're out of the fucking danger zone here and like you're dying for a pee but you can't get up because you don't want to be an asshole that's the thing like i don't want to be an asshole i don't want to get a scolding but then there's always somebody that gets up and nobody says anything and then i'm like i just i wish i was i wish i was bolder i wish i wasn't so worried

about letting people down every minute of the day so like 100 percent i i agree with this one. So have you anything to add Nicole before we move on? Well, I think this is like my worst nightmare is to have diary on a plane and then the flight attendant check in and then also once I leave,

everybody sees the flight attendant trying to fix whatever happened. Oh, yeah. That part. That's awful. I was on a flight recently where we were kind of driving around on the runway for what felt like

an hour. Maybe it was more than an hour. We turned around and went back, to the gate and we saw this guy walk all the way from the back down, like a passenger, all the way of the back, down the aisle and get off the plane. And they were like, yeah, we got to have a cleaning crew come on and take care of the bathroom in the back. Like we had a sick passenger. And to have to parade down the aisle and then they're bringing on an entire cleaning crew to take care of whatever happened, that is for sure my worst nightmare. That is Game of Thrones. Shame, shame, shame. That is a bad walk down the aisle. I'm surprised

that one didn't make it onto TikTok. It's brutal. It's so brutal. By the way, I don't, I don't want to get disgusting, but is there some science, is there some science behind why it's so hard to actually do number two when you're in the air? Like, is it the pressure I assist? Because everyone has these fears of having diarrhea on a plane, but actually, I've just had the opposite where it's just like, that shit's not happening, you know?

But I won't get into too much detail, but I've never, I am, like, impressed by her clogging the toilet, because that toilet feels like it would suck you into the sky. It's so strong. Well, you got a courtesy flush, man. So that's the thing for future reference, right? Like, just keep flushing. It's not going to suck you in. It feels like it will.

That's the problem with an airplane flush. It's like you feel like if you flushed it while you're sitting on there, it could suck you right through the whole thing, but it doesn't. You just get a nice, you get like an airy sensation as it has it sort of, I do you feel this intense, you know, the rust of air coming the other way. So anyway, let's take another one, Nicole. Thank you very much.

Things that are embarrassing that shouldn't be. Honestly, like saying hello and goodbye. Like, why is that so embarrassing? Like, you never know. Are they going in for the hug? Are they going in for the kiss? Fist pump? Just any greeting etiquette.

It's just terrible. Anyways, thanks. Bye. 100%. This is like embarrassing when it shouldn't be 101, you know, especially because I was raised by like, you know, my mother was like not very tactile, you know, she wasn't like super affectionate. So then like when we got older and I was like hanging out with all these Italians who are like the opposite, you know, they fucking, they can't

like hug and kiss on the cheek enough, you know? And suddenly I'm in this world of like physical touch. And I like, I'm like, I don't know what to do. And I don't mean it in the sense of like, I feel like people were in my personal space. Like, I, I liked, I liked the confident person that comes in for like the hug or the kiss, right? But what I hate is like when it's not clear, and then I, I never know what to do. So then I, particularly years ago,

I used to really get bent out of shape. So, you know, I think that's something that we should have legislated for, which is like, this is the legal way to greet somebody for the first time. You know, like, because I've started learning Spanish, right? So there's like, you know, Usted, you know, two and Ustead, you know, Ustead, the polite form. And, you know, I guess we do have like what's a polite greeting and what isn't, but I don't think it's clear. And I think it evolves over time.

So I think because society has evolved so much and we've changed so rapidly, I think we need like a new, like, campaign to sort of be like, hey, this is an unfamiliar greeting. This is a slightly familiar greeting. and this is like the acceptable greeting for friends for a long time, because it can be awkward. And listen, we've all shook. We've all done the shaking of somebody, somebody goes in for the pound, and you've got in for the handshake, and then you're like shaking, you know, have you done the pound shake? That's almost exclusively what I do.

I don't get the thing right. It's either like high five to pound shake. Yeah, rock paper scissors. Yes, going for a handshake sometimes just completely miss or like fish hands. and I never get the right one. Yeah, or when somebody goes for the pound, you go for the handshake, and then they're like, oh, we're shaking hands,

but you've changed to the pound, you know, and then you're back and forth and it's like, what should we do? And then it's just, oh, it's so awkward. You know? I mean, I actually have to say, I was initially against the pound because I kind of thought it was like dushy.

You know, I felt like it was like American douchebags like to pound. But as it's evolved, I think the pandemic really helped that. the pandemic was very good for the pound you know as far as like the pandemic was good for some things bad for others but i think the pound really had like a moment during the pandemic that has kind of lasted and i've i've really grown to love the pound because it is nice it's like it's a little bit of touch but it's also not intimate and you're not exchanging germs you know and i'm not like a germaphy

but the pandemic did make me just like a little bit more aware of like hand washing i'm a much better hand washer these days because of the pandemic so as a result i do i've i've grown to love the pound. And I still think the pound is not insulting, you know? The only time the pound is insulting is when you go in for a handshake and then somebody's like, insists on the pound. Like, the people that say, like, I don't shake hands. I get it. I'm not making fun of your germophobia or, you know, your Harry Mandel-esque kind of weird, you know, quirks that you have. But it is a little bit insulting. Do you get insulting when somebody's like, I don't shake hands? Yeah, I try. I try not to because I'm

I'm sure they have reasons and I don't want to call them out and make it be weirder than the situation I is. But it does make me feel like, oh, okay, all right. Yeah, yeah, it is. It's a bit like that, you know. And of course, you are 100% right. They could have, like, very valid reasons. But am I going to give them that grace all the time? No.

I'm going to make an assumption that they love attention or they like making everything about them. And that's not, by the way, I am not saying I'm right. I'm just being, this is an honest podcast. and I'm being honest that I'm a flawed human and I am going to make unnecessary judgments about them. And if I find out after the fact that I was wrong, of course, I will deeply respect why they need to do that. But if I find out that they're just like a little dramatic,

then I will judge them forever, you know? But it's very hard to get to the bottom of that. But anyway, there's just a lot. You know, in Queens, in the late 80s early, 90s like when I was coming into my adolescence like the the girls everybody started to get into the kissing each other hello thing and I did I did struggle with that you know but it's a cultural difference you know but now it's more no now it's more normal but even last night like I met somebody else not Stephen Michael Cassata but it was a situation where you know it was like I couldn't

tell if this person was in for the hug or not so then I just shook hands but I thought that maybe it was like either they could have been offended or the hug would have been a mistake, but it's just, it can be hard to know, you know. Anyway, I like when somebody else takes the lead on that, you know? They say, men are supposed to lead when you're dancing, but actually, you know, in 2026, I think we don't talk enough about women take the lead on the greeting. Would you agree with that? Yeah, because when the guy does it, it's always a little weird. Like, there have been times where maybe it's like one of my boyfriend's friends and I'm saying hello and it's an obvious hug situation and he goes in for like a handshake or a fist bump. I'm like, what is this? Like we're

supposed to be like good friends. So sometimes it's, it's a little odd. But I'm also not that girl that is like the confident huger that always goes in for the hug. I would prefer to have like a little distance. So it's hard to say. I don't think I have the confidence to be making the decisions. So as part of this campaign about greeting etiquette in 2026, especially after sort of you know, like, I mean, it really has been an interesting decade around consent and all these things, you know, which I think that all these things have been like amazing conversations. So, but I don't think we made it clear that like women lead in the greeting. And like, because it's very clear in dancing men lead.

And by the way, women can lead. I'm not saying they can't. But just like the way it works out is like it's a system. Somebody has to lead. So we've just accepted the man leads. More than not, not always. But it's not controversial to say that more than not, the man is going to be. have the slightly more strength to sort of like maneuver you around in a way that leading makes sense right it's just a dancing thing it's not it's not sexism okay

but when it comes to greeting women lead and i think this needs to be a campaign women lead on the greeting let a woman decide if it's a hug or a kiss or a handshake all right so lead the campaign i'm not going to lead the campaign but the campaign starts here okay so let's let's take another hey des hey chris um something that's embarrassing that really shouldn't be is leaving a store after not buying anything. Why do I feel like I did something illegal? Like everyone's going to stare at me? I don't know. It's just embarrassing. I mean, has there ever been a prompt situation more satisfying than this? I'm just like I'm just basking in validation here today you know because it's like you think that you're a weirdo in this life and isn't it wonderful when you just realize that like so many people are struggling with the same you know frivolous nonsense that you are I have never walked out of a shop without buying something without feeling like a criminal without feeling like they're all going what did he put in his pocket do you feel the same way always 100% I have a lot of anxiety around the self checkout as well oh okay and that you're getting filmed and you're kind of looking at yourself like that's kind of another level of embarrassment that I deal with with the self checkout but that's for another day but I have the dumbest thing where like I really get a lot of pride and satisfaction out of like very quick

blipping, like being a quick, quick blipper, not having an issue. Like, when I see somebody struggling at the self-checkout, I'm like, what a fucking loser. What a self-checkout loser? You know, even though we've all had our issues, you know, we've all had to call the person over, which is always embarrassing, you know, but I do get a lot of self-checkout satisfaction. But I do also get self-checkout anxiety when, for example, you have to, like, pick the item bananas or like weigh a salad, you know, and then you're really, you're basically an employee at that stage, you know, that, that can be, that can be a toughie, you know.

So, uh, I, I had a, I had a situation recently where I was in a target and I was actually going to get coffee. So long story short, the coffee shop didn't open till, the coffee shop didn't open till a time where I had a bit of time to kill before. it opened, which is the story of my life. But the Target was already open. So after I had breakfast, I was going to go to Target to buy something, but I had some time. So I was like, let me go and explore,

you know, if they have the thing. So I went in there and I checked it and then I left. And there was a security guy and I was like walking out with nothing and I felt like I was a criminal, right? So then after breakfast, I have two coffees. I go into Target to buy it, but I'm in the aisle. And, you know, it's an absolute accident

that this part, this episode is becoming a lot about, like, taking a dump. But I suddenly was in the aisle, and I was like, oh, shit, I got a, right? So then I had to walk by the guy, right? Because the bathroom's, like, right at the door. I had to walk by the guy to go to the bathroom. So now I'm like, this guy's like, this is the second time this guy's been in. He hasn't bought anything yet. Now he's in the bathroom.

This guy's clearly a shoplifter. So I'm literally, like, in the bathroom being like, I'm a shoplifter. Right? I haven't done anything wrong, but I'm a shoplifter. You know, the same way the minute. cop gets behind you on the road, you're like, I'm a criminal, you know? Like, you just assume that the cop is there to get you, right? So then when I finally bought something, I was like, I wanted to be like, yo, see, bro? You see? Of course, this guy hasn't spared a thought about me, but I was really

struggling. So I think everybody can identify with this. And I think, what do you think is, I think it's worse in like a small store, like you go into like a bodega and you want to get like, I don't know, in my situation, because sometimes you want to get, like, get something a bit like, you know, obscure. So it's not a guarantee it's going to be there. So say I'm going in for like a particular type of protein shake and they don't have it. And then you're walking out. And it's just like you just, because you got to think that half the time in this

situation somebody is robbing. So which do you think is tougher, the bodega or like the big store to walk out? It's definitely the bodega. This also reminded me of like if you ever go to like a flea market or farmer's market or something where artists have booth set up and you poke in and you're like, I don't want to buy any of this stuff, but this person made it with their hands and spent so much time making this. And I have to kind of like faux interest ask about what materials this is made out of. I linger for too long and I don't know how to get out.

Oh my God. I feel like that should be a Kirby enthusiasm episode of just like the amount of emotions you go through at the farmer's market. because they're like watching you peruse their shit. And then you have to be like, nah. You know, it's like, to me, it feels like you're rejecting them. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, I know that you're slaving over this fucking cheese.

You're in there like fucking tests of the Duberville's fucking, you know, from the 1800s churning fucking butter in 2025, 2026, when I could just buy Kerrygold in this. store, right? But you're fucking there churning like a fucking handmade from from another era. And then I'm like, nah, no thanks, you know? So, and then you know what else I feel really guilty for in the farmer's market? It's like, there's always one stall that has a huge line. And then all these other suckers that don't have a line, you know, no. I feel terrible, you know? Like in West Hampton, there's the, the sourdough guy is fucking incredible. This motherfucker is sold out by like

10 a.m. every week at the farmer's market. And then like next to them, there's like a next to him, there's like a charity thing. It's like literally done by people that are like in need of money and they're getting like no love. And I'm like, this is terrible. You know? Like people just care about their sour d. So I, honestly, the farmer's market stuff is such a great. That's, I, I got to put that one in the back of my mind as like a perfect scenario for it. But also I do want to point out. By the way, I'm not pointing out any particular farmer's market people, but there's a lot of ripping off that goes on to the farmers market.

Particularly with jam. Now, I'm a big jam guy. I love jam. But, like, a lot of times you're paying a lot of extra money for jam. That's just like, it's not as good as bon mammon, you know? Like, you got to let me taste it. They don't do tasting.

There should be, like, little pieces of toast, and you can put a little bit of that jam on that. I got to taste it. Because basically, it's like, I'll spend twice as much on your jam if it's even 1% better than Bon Mamon. But there's, you know, Bon Mamon, I know it's mass produced,

but it's fucking good jam. And it's also in a canister that looks like it's expensive. You know, that used to be a joke of mine years ago, which was like, oh, you take an old tablecloth, you wrap it around the top of the jar with a rubber band, and then you charge twice as much. It's like, oh, homemade jam.

It's the same shit, bro. You know? It really is the same thing. But when you get a great homemade jam, I'm all for it. And by the way, shout out to Briamere Farms on the North Fork of Long Island. Their cherry jam off the charts, right? They have some of the best, like their apricot jam, their peach, they have fucking peach jam off the charts. So shout out to Briamere Farms, they are the real deal. And shout out to the West Hampton Farmer's Market. But I really do appreciate you mentioning your farmer's market anxiety. Um, what is, oh, you know what else?

You know what? The farmer's market, you know, when there's like one of these like absolutely bullshit health products. I'm not going to mention one. I don't want to get in any arguments with anybody, but there'll be like a stall. Now all this like fucking nonsense. No bullshit homeopathic nonsense. And then you'll be like, oh, what's this?

And then, oh, this is good for that. And like, it takes every fiber into my body to be like, how do you fucking keep a straight face with this nonsense? I know they believe it, but, you know, so there's a lot. Actually, now that I think of it, I think there's like a farmer's market, like entire TV show to be made. I don't think it's a one episode situation. 100%. We're skipping over entirely the part that I really struggle with is when it's like handmade stuff like jewelry or pottery or like one of those where they have people selling their wares.

And that stuff I really struggle with because it's like you spent so much time and money on this. and no one is visiting your stand and I feel like I have to be like oh what's this made out of and I would never wear those earrings or it's a belt buckle or something that I'm not interested in but I feel awful for this person especially because a lot of them go hey when you walk by and they

say hello and I'm like oh no I have to stop and talk yes I know it's tough I mean I definitely have witnessed Hannah buy a bit of homemade jewelry just out of guilt and like not wanting to like let this person down which is nice in a way You know? And I mean, listen, they're there. I'm sure they sell it. There's a market for it. But I 100% agree with you. I feel terrible when I leave. Especially if I've gotten a description, you know, if they've taken the time to explain it to me. So there is a lot of embarrassment slash guilt. I mean, we could do a whole unnecessary guilt situation for another episode. So let's take one or two more before we go. Hey, guys, and quick. Sorry, that was kind of demonic. I don't know why I started with that. Anyways, something that's embarrassed.

thing that shouldn't be is picking up your dog's turds in front of other people. Like, I'd be taking my dog to this park and I walk her around. She always dumps at least twice, like, really gets her bowels going when she's walking. And every time I'm always like, God, this bitch be letting out the nastiest turds. Like, I hate picking this up in front of people, but I have to. And everybody else is picking up their dog's turds, but for some reason, it just feels like, shameful having to open this bag and watch your dog just dump out on your walk and it's like the nastiest smelliest shit and especially if it's diarrhea and you can't get all of it and you're like trying your hardest shouldn't be embarrassing but for some reason I feel embarrassed and my dog does not give a

fuck she's like I'm gonna shit all over but anyways goodbye I like her comfortability with her silly voices so actually before she said about the diarrhea thing I was going to say like it's it's sucks when you can't get it all up. And there's nothing you can do, you know? And it's not the end of the world, but it is very embarrassing. You know? Picking up, somebody else had a message in, and I couldn't find it for some reason. I think I might have accidentally deleted it.

But they were pointed out, like, not only is it embarrassing to, like, have to pick up your dog's shit, but then, like, you're walking around with a bag of shit for a while. Like, that's really, it's like, you got a bag of shit in your head. And, of course, nobody cares. Like, I never look at anybody who's walking their dog with a bag of shit. I'm like, I got a bag of shit. But of course, when you have a bag of shit, you're like, oh, my God, I've got a bag of shit in my hand, you know? So it is, it is quite embarrassing.

I mean, this is, like, dog stuff just brings on a whole other world of just like, like, because we had a lot of, we're fostering these pits. And, like, a lot of them were not good. We're the dogs in, like, a dangerous way. Like, they'll kill your fucking dog, you know. And then you get these people who have never had, like, a difficult dog so they don't understand the concept of just, like, boundaries for dogs. So they've been like, oh, no, he's. friendly. It's like, well, this one isn't like, don't even try. Like, I'm going to cross the street, okay? Like, it's going to be a disaster. So, you know, there's a lot of dog etiquette stuff that can be

very difficult. And like, honestly, dog parents, it gets like, you know, the way parents never think their own kid is like the problem? People get that with their dogs too. No, it couldn't be my dog. My dog is the, no, your dog started to fight. You know, so there's a whole, there's a whole little dog episode to be had for the future. But you still, you have a dog full time, right? Yes, and I know she's the problem in a lot of situations. Like, she doesn't love other dogs either. She's very protective of us. So sometimes it's people, too.

Like, she doesn't like when people get too close. She has to kind of open up to them. And on the subject of her pooping, if I'm not looking, she's gotten better with this. But if I'm picking up her poop, she's in protection mode of me. And if people walk by too close, she's lunging. So that's never true. So I'm like half on the poop, half trying to keep her from going after somebody. She can be intense.

but she's gotten a lot better than when we first got her for sure. But there's a lot of poop anxiety. You know, dogs apparently they feel they're most vulnerable when they're pooping. Which I guess we do too. That's why we poop in a private place. So we're really not that different. Big, I know. It's not uncommon, oddly enough.

All right, let's get two more quickies. For things that are embarrassing but shouldn't be getting out of the back seat of a two-door car as a full-size adult. this actually this really made me laugh when I read it I didn't realize it was a man a rare man dialer but the uh

that is so true like even honestly like any like low sports car it's impossible it's actually like I can't believe how I went my whole childhood because like for a lot of our lives we only had a two door

I went my whole childhood getting in and out of that thing not realizing how fucking difficult it is like I can hardly they get in one. Do you remember the last time you had to get out of the back of a two-door? Every day. My boyfriend has a Jeep Wrangler that's a two-door. And usually it's okay when it's just me, but if we have like our dog or our friends and you have to like release them from the back by popping the seat down, they're like trapped until you, yeah, you have to like get the seat down so they can escape. It's a process. The seat down? I mean, I'm like, what is this

the 80s? But then you have the modern version of that is you order a new XL because you got like more than three people and then they like it's like impossible to get to the back row you know like some of these things are designed like that we've had numerous situate we had one but Hannah's dad and he was insistent on getting in the back and then it was just like absolute torture we nearly ended up having to go to the hospital but uh you know it's just the the this should be no more two door two door cars like in fairness like we've moved on from that all right let's let let let's get A couple of quickies.

I won't talk. I just want to get them in. I feel like you're going to get this a lot, but when you go to show someone a video or something on your phone and either the Wi-Fi is not connecting, so you click on it and, oh, it doesn't start playing, or you get a text notification in the middle, or something that interrupt is just slow,

and then it's like, you know what, I don't even want to show, I don't even know why I tried, especially as someone who does this very, very, very little, and that's so little that when I do show someone something on my phone, I put my phone on Do Not Disturb, so there's no chance of any kind of notification that will embarrass me or text message that pops up or anything. I avoided all calls. But yeah, when you're going to show someone something and it gets interrupted, the screen just turns black, and then you're just sitting there and awkward, you can't get to volume to work, you know, some interruptions during that.

but I feel like you shouldn't be embarrassing, but for me, it always does. I mean, she's thought about it a lot. She was actually the only one that came in about that. It's funny. No, because it is embarrassing, but, like, it's clearly, like, really embarrassing for her. But she must be into showing videos, you know?

Honestly, I'd say a lot of relationships have been destroyed by the text coming in during the video showing, you know? Because it is kind of like, it's like a private moment in the middle of this public event, where it's like, hey, I'm going to show my friend this video, and then fucking. text comes in, you know, it can be quite embarrassing. You know, Hannah has a whole thing about YouTube waterboarding and men showing videos.

I'm not as inclined to show videos for this very reason that I, you know, it's no guarantee you're going to like it. Like, I think texting, sending a video is better than like showing somebody on the phone because, like, it's just a lot of pressure for them to actually like it. You know, how do you feel about video showing? I never do it because I feel like I'm holding them hostage. I would rather send it through a text. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So that's exactly how I feel. Or if someone's doing it to you and they keep looking at you to see if you're laughing, you see that video is like at least eight minutes long, I kind of mentally check out. So I don't do that to others. It is a risk, you know? It is anxiety-ducing. All right, let's take one more before we go. I feel like something that's embarrassing but shouldn't be embarrassing is when you're just walking around and your shoe comes untied.

you maybe don't notice it first and then you have to like squat down to tie your shoe I don't know I could be at work or just like walking around in the grocery store I just feel like that shit is so embarrassing

like why are your shoes coming untied amen I just immediately when my shoe is untied I'm immediately like what are you fucking five bro but here's what really annoys me about that though like I had one recently

when I was bored in the plane so I was like in the jetway my shoe lace untied. It's like, I'm gonna fucking, I'm gonna tie my shoe when I get to my seat. But then, was I able to do that? No, guess why? Take a guess why, Nicole.

Did someone call it out? Or is that? Somebody was like, oh, your shoe is untied. Your shoe is untied. It's like, yeah, I know, bro. Now everybody fucking knows. I was aware, but I just made a fucking conscious decision that I was going to make sure I didn't tread on myself. I was going to keep my legs wide enough.

that it's not an issue, and I was going to deal with it when I sit down. But people think they're doing your favor. It's like, oh, your shoe lace inside. Yeah, I fucking know, bro. You know, I don't need you to be concerned. I understand your maternal or your paternal instincts have kicked off. But when your shoelaces untied, it's one of these things

where people are like, you need to let, you know. But yet, which it never came up, but we can talk about it maybe next week. When you have something in your tooth, people are afraid to say something. Or if the tag is showing? I mean, is there anything? more embarrassing than realizing your shirt was on inside out? I mean, not a big deal, but oh my God, kill me now. My shirt was inside out. Like all these things, but shoe laces untied. Oh, my God, we have a major safety situation on our hands. Somebody's shoelaces untied. Wait, but what did you do?

Did you, in that moment, did you just fold and you tied your shoe or did you have to explain? Like, well, actually, I'm going to wait until I go to my seat. No, I actually, I tied my shoe. I tied my shoe. I down on my shitty fucking knee and I tied my shoe. You know? I threw my back out and I fucking, no, I'm kidding. But I did, you know, I tied my stupid shoe because it was like, it was like, it was slow. The line was slow. You know, so I wasn't going to be like, yeah, fuck you, bitch. I'm going to take the risk, you know, I, I, I, I tied my shoe. Like I told you, I wish I didn't care, but I care, you know, that's the problem. So anyway, so I think, here's my personal opinion

I think that we should do another episode of this next week dialers so I'm gonna say keep dialing in there's so many

there's still so many that we haven't even played right now right so I'm gonna say let's carry it over to next week right I won't post

the prompt again so the dialers that are listening message in the tellby link is in my Instagram so you know

go in there it's in the you know under I have punch up live but then I have like four or five different links you can send the message at any time. Send some feedback what you thought about the episode.

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This is perfect. Maybe we can also throw the phone link in the episode description as well. Wow, look at Nicole. Nicole being on it here. And do you promote your Instagram or do you not care? Why not?

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