Berner Phone - This Should Be Illegal

Episode Date: May 25, 2026

Des is solo this week, listening to voicemails answering the question: "What was normal in your childhood that's illegal today?" From leaving kids in the car and bringing them into bars to getting a bar of soap in your mouth for cursing, Des reacts to the Dialers' nostalgic stories from a very different time.   Call [phone] to leave us a voicemail!   FOLLOW DES: Tickets: https://punchup.live/desbishop Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/desbishop Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/desbishop X: https://x.com/desbishop YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Desbishopcomedy TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@desbishop5   FOLLOW NICOLE: https://www.instagram.com/nicoleclyons/   Produced by Nicole Lyons Productions Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolelyonsproductions/ Website: www.nicolelyonsproductions.com

Hi, it's Hannah Burner and Des Bishop. Thanks for calling the burner phone. If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast. Hello, my little dialers and welcome back to Burner Phone. It's Des here with Nicole on the ones and twos. And we got a very good prompt today, which I saw TikTok. Nicole, what do you think? I don't think it's unethical because I wasn't.

I wasn't taking the TikTok, but the TikTok said five things that were normal in our childhood that seem illegal today. And then I didn't even watch her video. I just thought it was such a great prompt idea. So I immediately screenshot the title. And I thought that's a good prompt idea. But that's not like taking her idea, right? No, you're like on top of the trends in that case, I feel like.

Yes. Yes. Because I thought it was such. And I thought it was such a burnophone-friendly prompt because obviously we have a wide array of ages here that listen. But this isn't specifically more for Gen X or more for Gen Z. It's like whatever has changed since you were a kid to now, it's like it's a really good sort of topic creator. So I took the screenshot because honestly coming up with the prompts, guys, by the way, those that are listening, I always, honestly, I'd say 80% to 90% of our prompts in the last sort of two or three months are coming from dialers and I really appreciate it.

And yeah, sure, we're going to repeat some sometimes because some were just, well, I think almost always they're under, you know, like there's more to do. So it's not a problem repeating them. But anyway, this one came from a random TikTok, but it's a cracker. Now, I know, you know some of the ones that are going to come up. But these are also my favorite things to talk about the back in the day stuff, nostalgia. Me, my current show that I've now recorded for a special twice is heavily ridden with nostalgia, riddled with nostalgia. So anyway, before we do, though, Nicole, two weeks ago on the episode with Vittorio, we discussed Quicksand, had a lot of reaction to Quicksand one. first I discovered that blind boy who is an Irish, well, one of the most popular Irish podcasters.

He had apparently done a full episode on Quicksand, but we had a real life story come in. Do you want to play that for us? Hey, Des. I'm currently listening to the episode about the childhood fears and then the Quicksand part. And I have to chime in on that. When I was in second grade, I was living in Orlando. and I was walking around this lake that is very popular and it's downtown. And I was with my friend and we were feeding ducks and geese and shit.

And I fell into quicksand. Went up to my chest. I was really tiny, like a very tiny kid. And now I have a fat ass. No, I'm just kidding. But yeah, I fell up to my chest and my friend could barely get to me. And I somehow dug my way out of it. And then I remember that I just had mud all over me.

And somehow we ended up at like the mayor's house or some shit. And she, the person that worked there gave me some paper towels. And then I went home and told my mom about it. And we were like, what the fuck? But yeah, I was a very small child. So it's real out there. And the reason why I wanted to play this, because I'm, I'm more inclined to think that danger is exaggerated. I don't know if it's some sort of weird coping mechanism.

but I always think that people are exaggerating like the potential danger of a situation. And I think I was very dismissive of Quicksand, but just be careful. Be careful out there, guys. Quicksand is real. And I don't know how much she thought she was going to die. But it's also good to know that I like when people sort of like immediately are listening to the episode and then they feel like they have to message into the Telby. The Telby is open 24-7. The link is on my Instagram.

The link is in the show notes. If you've ever used the link, save the link so you have it. So you can, you know, like back in the day when people like called into radio stations, you know, like there was people to be have that shit on like speed dial. You know, so always have it at the ready. We are way more organized than we used to be. So we're actually a couple of weeks ahead. So don't worry.

It will come up if you send something that is worth a revisit. So anyway, let's get into it. it, things that were normal in your childhood that feel like they would be illegal today. A dealer's choice, Nicole. This might be a crazy one to start with, but the title made me laugh so hard that we have to start here. Okay. So, core memory, in 1970, my first grade teacher took one of those cloth jump ropes, tied

a classmate to her desk seat because she wouldn't stay seated and would. would just get up and walk around the classroom. So there's that. I mean, that's beyond what I was thinking because that's like 1970, right? So I started going to school, I guess, 1979, but certainly I was in first grade, 1980 to 81. And corporal punishment in American schools was done. So I feel like she's right at the tail end of corporal punishment in America.

that is insane, but also like I feel like back in the day, I wouldn't think that was that crazy, actually. You know? I mean, Sister Electa, who actually was probably my best teacher in first grade, she was very strict. She did make me cry one time. But my best grades in school were in first grade. I was in the special reading class. Like, you know, my mother was told in first grade that I was like a gifted child, you know? I was like the front of everything.

And it was because Sister Electa, first of all, I'm not going to say she was a Nazi, okay? But she was teaching us German. Like, no, by the way, I'm not suggesting in any way. But like, you know the way sometimes we use the term like, oh, they're like a Nazi for this. I don't mean it like in any political way. But like she was very rigid, you know.

And she, I needed that rigidity, you know. I needed the like severe discipline and it was my best year. But without a shadow of a doubt, Sister Electus teaching practices would not be acceptable today. Like not in any way, shape or form. And by the way, pretty common tale. We were scared of the nuns. Most people were scared of the nuns.

And it really, I would never want to go back to that time. But I also have to point out that once I got away from the nuns, I was in second grade, Ms. Farrell got pregnant, right? And then we got a substitute teacher who's named. I can't remember. And that got pregnant, like literally left to have a kid. And whoever that teacher was had like very little discipline. And I can literally remember the moment where I fooled around in class, everybody laughed. And like, that was it. I was done. I never focused properly again. I needed that that rigid discipline. So anyway, I don't condone the tying to a chair. But I definitely know that throughout my life in my young, life in school, I was, I think I was threatened at least 10 times to be stapled to the chair. I, I'm not even kidding. I think I got stapled to the chair once. Or certainly like a joke. Stapling to the chair was like a threat from child, from my child. Did you ever get stapled to

the chair, Nicole? Never stapled. I mean, the thing that kind of stood out to me about this one, too, is I assumed it was going to be like a punishment, like tied to the chair as a punishment, but it was more of like a tool. Like she was just walking around too much. So they tied her to the chair. Yeah. But it was also like one of those things of like I've had enough of you getting up and moving around. Now, I also have to say, and I don't know how I feel about this, and I don't want to get into the controversy of it. We're going to have, the next episode we're going to record is actually going to be a health one. I found a great doctor on Instagram that's going to take your health questions, but it will already have been done by the time you hear this. So anyway,

I think probably if I was me in 1995, like if I started school in 1995, I think they probably would have tried to put me on Ritalin or something else. I'm pretty sure they would. And I can't say whether that would have been a positive or negative. I have no idea. And I'm sure that will elicit a lot of emotional responses. I can't say. But I know for sure that if I was threatened with being stapled to a chair or in third grade, Miss Schofield, I'm assuming all these people are gone, by the way, and I have no problem with

Ms. Schofield, but Ms. Schofield in third grade, she put me in what they called the isolation row. So there was, they, she created an isolation row. So she put all the bookcases at the back of the class and then one more row behind it so that you were separated from the class so that you were like less distracted. So I spent most of my third grade in the isolation row. And, you know, you had to be like non-disruptive to get out of it. And I really could never find my way out of it, to be honest with you. So anyway, you know, I spent most of my education being told to calm down. So I assumed that I would have been put on Ritalin at a later time. But the nuns weren't, the nuns weren't into the old, you know, ADHD medication or

ADD, you know, they weren't, they weren't into that. They were more, their method of getting attention Deficit Disorder was getting hit. Now, I also want to point out that when I moved to Ireland in 1990, which I'm pretty sure I've told this story, but we still got the strap in boarding school. So when I went to Irish boarding school, I was getting hit. And maybe later on in the episode, I'll tell the story. But I'm pretty sure that I told the story before. But I got hit many times in boarding school by Ardenne.

I won't name him, even though I named him. one of my specials. So without a shadow of a doubt, all that stuff would not be acceptable today, but it was, it was very normal. And that guy's still alive, that guy that used to hit us. And I guarantee you, he is still of the opinion today that we were all better off for it. You know? And I, I think he's wrong, but I ended up okay too. So there's always those people that are going to be like, never did me any harm. And listen, you know, the never did me any harm people are out there and everyone's so convinced that all the changes have been good. And I'm not convinced.

But I'm convinced that he was an asshole, by the way, just for the record. I'm on the record. I'm not defending him. But I'm just kind of saying that we're very easy to dismiss a lot of the old methods. But, you know, there's not a guarantee that they were all bad. But I'm not into the hitting, just for the record. So let's take another one. Something that has become legal that used to be illegal when I was a kid is get the

fucking kids out of the power. by 6 p.m bitch. Like, I'm sorry. We should have be allowed to have child-free spaces that serve pub food. Like, what do you mean? You couldn't have gone to the fucking diner across the street that also sells fucking beer

and has the same ambiance. And now you've chosen to invade the space where people just want to chill out with no kids there and it not be a bar setting. Like, what's the way? the fuck. Take your kids anywhere else and have a beer anywhere else with their kids present. Fuck. And why do you feel comfortable doing that when you know everyone there hates you? I think the fact that I think she was like chopping onions or carrots or something makes this even more threatening.

It's like I could just, I could be wrong on what that noise was, but it sounded to me like she was chopping shit. She was hitting something. Yeah, listen, I don't, we've had so many, I don't want to trigger like the parents versus the childless and all this stuff. It's not about that. But in Ireland, I'm pretty sure it's still the same that children aren't meant to be there after six. I guess unless it's like a gastro pub, I have, I'm surprised this came. When I, I only read these, right? And when I read it, I really assumed it was going to be an Irish accent because number one, she said pub.

And two, like in Ireland, it's a very, there used to be. And I'm open to correction, but there was always a very distinct, after 6 o'clock, the kid's not allowed to be there. But of course, everything's a gray area now because a lot of these pubs are like restaurants also. I don't know if I totally agree with her, because I just think that some pub restaurants really, like, lend themselves to, like, families being there anyway. And I feel like, it's hard to know on this one because, like, if you're in a TGI Fridays

and you're complaining about a kid being at the pub, then you got to fuck off, you know? But like at the same time, I think there would be certain types of like pub grub places that I'd be surprised if you brought a kid to. But then in saying that, my godfather was Amon Duran who had a famous Irish pub on 52nd and 2nd. God rest him, he died in 1997. But I had my confirmation party at his pub and the place was swarmer with kids. So I don't know. I'm not that sure on this one, actually. But we've had plenty of conversations about the sort of the gray area of what's an adult space and what isn't.

But if you're eating, though, that's my problem with this one is like, there's a lot more eating at bars these days than there used to be. And I feel like once you're bringing in the fact that you are a restaurant, then I think you'd have to, you'd have to make it pretty clear that it's like an adult's only restaurant after six, I feel. So I feel like I'm not 100% sure on this one. I do support the dialer always. I never want to put dialers off messaging in. I don't want to wake up one day with somebody getting ready to chop my fingers off. It's like, but in this particular one, I'm not 100% sure. But what I will say is, I distinctly remember my brother Aden's christening, 1980.

We were at this like events place on Bell Boulevard. Flushing Queens, Bayside Queens, but not, actually, I take it back. It was Francis Lewis Boulevard, across from where the H-Mart is now for the flushing people. It used to be an AMP. Now it's an H-Mart, Korean, Asian supermarket. Anyway, directly across from there, they used to be like a function hall. And it was the smoke, it was like one of the smokiest atmospheres I ever remember in my life. And that didn't actually, funnily enough, that didn't come up because I feel like most of the fans of this part are actually

younger, but thank God it's illegal now. The amount of secondhand smoke I was exposed to in my own house, my parents were smokers, but particularly at events, because I actually remember, that was the one time as a child, I was like, this is too, it was disgusting, like I couldn't breathe. And the fact that kids were exposed to that is, was insane. So thank God that's gone. And I can't imagine what I smelled like. Like, I can't imagine like, because it was normal then, right? So nobody was going like, oh, the bishop kids are neglected. But like, if I smelled a kid today, like a five-year-old kid, that stank of cigarettes, I would be like, call child services. I can't believe that I stank that way because I hate the smell of smoke, man.

Like, it actually, it makes me ill, you know, and I can't believe that anyone would smoke and leave themselves smelling that way. And by the way, to the smokers, I'm not trying to shame you. I'm just giving you my headspace, but I'm very anti-smoking, literally both my parents are dead because of it, okay? But anyway, I just can't believe how many of us were going to school every day, stinking like cigarettes. And then in the car on the way, I mean, it was really disgusting. So thank God that's actually illegal. And we'll take another, Nicole. Is it working?

Oh, yeah, it is good. Okay, the best one I could think of was how much milk they were making us drink as kids. So my grandmother, my omah, she made us all drink like, I don't know, half a leaf. of milk with dinner. That feels illegal. She also let us have free range, free reign of ice cream. And so I was eating so much dairy at the end of the day. Wash forward like 15 years, find out I'm super lactose intolerant, did the actual blood test.

And I had some kind of amoeba, which was unrelated, but basically I had. IBS for like 15 years and this milk was not helping. Yeah. It's an interesting one than milk one. Because yes, I mean, we had a lot of milk when we were kids. Loved milk, loved cereal. A lot of, everyone's against cereal now. And again, I'm like, I'm such a relic sometimes.

I don't know, I don't know where I stand on it because I'm aware that a lot of these cereals are too much sugar, preservatives. And these kids are getting fat. But we all ate that shit and we didn't get fat. And I know that's like one of these things. It's just so complicated to food stuff. So actually, I want to make a note, Nicole, for when we have Dr. Elizabeth on, let's ask her about the amount of milk.

Because I think I want to know the numbers, okay, on how much the move away from milk has affected, like, childhood nutrition in a positive or a negative. Because I would say that there's probably a happy medium, between the amount of milk we ate. Because like, listen, the dairy council, what are they, the American Dairy Association, they ran ads hard. You're not old enough, right?

Nicole, to remember, milk, it does a body good. Pass it on. How's that go? Build your bone so you can grow. Milk's got calcium, don't you know? It does, which I'm pretty sure this is the second time I've sang that on this podcast. Whoa.

Yeah, all I had was Got Milk. Got Milk, that was later. Yeah, not the whole song and dance. Yeah, Milk, it does a body good. Well, that was the can't do it. campaign back in the 80s, milk it does a body good. Got milk came later. But milk was pure health as far as we were concerned. And then milk went through milk and bread had a tough early 2000s. Milk and bread. But I feel like milk and bread got like one of those like fucked up PR companies that like fucked with Amber Hurd and Johnny Depp. You know, there's all these like the dark side of the internet. I feel like milk and bread got together. And they're like, hey, guys, we got we got to fucking, we got to fight back here. And bread has had a much better come back, particularly sour dough, you know, just put sour dough in front of it.

And then everyone's like, oh, no, this bread is okay, you know? My joke I used to have was, because listen, I believe that gluten intolerance is real. And I obviously, celiac disease is very real. But I 100% stand by, I don't have the science on it, but I bet you the science exists that the amount of people that said they were gluten intolerant did not match the amount of people that were. I would say that a lot of people were self-diagnosing, right, or making assumptions about the way they feel based on bread, right, despite all the other triggers that it may or may not be. But, I don't mind that. You know, you cut bread out of your life. I don't think it's going to be a problem.

But there was a sort of a scourge about 10 years ago of people saying they were gluten intolerant. And as a result, the market responds. And suddenly there was like a whole gluten-free aisle and all this stuff. But anyway, my joke at the time was that did you ever notice our grandparents weren't gluten intolerant? You know what? They were hunger intolerant. So in a way, it's actually a one, it's a thing to celebrate the fact that we can focus so much on the abundance of food so we can choose, you know, we can be very selective about what we eat. And my cousin, who is basically my Irish dad, Professor Mick Gibney, Professor of Nutrition in University of College Dublin at the end of his career, but for the longest part of his career, professor of nutrition in Trinity College Dublin.

And, you know, obviously he was at the heart of the obesity debate and just the great sort of broad, sweeping statements that people were making about obesity, which, you know, before he died, still hadn't gotten to the bottom of it. But one of the things I liked that he pointed out was that we live in an obesityogenic environment. We've never had more access to calories. And actually, in human history, the more common problem had been lack of action. access to calories. Malnutrition has been the problem of humanity from most of our existence. Not in every culture, but various cultures throughout various parts of their history had problems with malnutrition, not overnutrition. We're really the world, so it's the greater part of the world, it's really the first time in history that overnutrition is the bigger problem.

So we just have too much access to calories, and obviously we've particularly too much access to high amounts of very simple, easy to obtain calories. which I think that's the uncontroversial part of the obesity debate. And we're certainly not getting into that. You know, it's funny, there's certain things that like elicit so much emotion in a way that's weird. Like, homelessness should really elicit, like, more emotion, inequality, gun violence. You know, the thing, well, gun violence actually does. But, like, it's funny the things that could really get the comments going online.

And one of them is nutrition. Right? And isn't it funny how like everything in this world, you join a tribe, the world has become so binary that even when it comes to food, you pick a team and then you fight for that team, regardless of the information, because you will find the information that supports your cause. And when it comes to science, that shouldn't be the case. But anyway, it is, hence why I'm trying to get a doctor on in a couple of days just so we can have a bit more of an informed. But I mean, listen, the worst thing you can be as a doctor, because then all the fucking, all the maha are going to come after you saying that you're, you're part of the grand conspiracy. Anyway, needless to say, too much access to calories. And milk and bread have made a huge comeback. I'm, I'm, actually, Nicole, since we're here, can you, Google, is milk healthy or unhealthy for children?

Because I'm curious what the, what the quick internet is saying. So, milk is. is considered a healthy part of a child's diet from age one to five, serving as an excellent source of calcium, vitamin D, and protein, which are essential for strong bones, teeth, and growth. Pediatricians typically recommend two to three cups of whole cow's milk daily for toddlers and low fat milk for children over five. So it's, okay, well, we'll get into it. That'll drum up the comments. I did actually have a routine about milk because I posted a quick joke about milk once, and then the vegans came after me. I'm very pro-vegan, by the way, but I'm just not pro being attacked by them.

I really support them. I actually think it's quite a noble decision that they made. For me, particularly, I feel like it's quite a heavy sacrifice for the well-being of animals. So I actually really admire them. But they came after me on this joke. I can't remember what the intro joke was. But in the comments, all the vegans were saying that one of the main arguments was we're the only mammals that drink the milk of other mammals, which is just factually incorrect.

So I did this whole routine about the fact that we're not, and it's a funny routine. Then I posted it, it went super viral. And all these Rogan fans were in the comments being like, you stole that from Joe Rogan. I was like, well, one, I've never watched a Joe Rogan set in my entire fucking life, right? And there's just no disrespect to Joe Rogan. I just didn't, you know? And if I was going to, and I would never steal from another company. But if I was going to steal from one, I wouldn't steal from Joe Rogan, who, as far as I'm concerned,

sort of really sort of established himself. In his post-feor factor era, one of the main things that really brought him to my attention was the fact that he went after, like, Carlos Mincea and a couple of other comics for robin jokes. Like, if I'm going to rob a Joe, you think I'm going to rob a fucking Joe Rogan routine? And put it on my special, like, for the whole world to see and think I'm not going to get caught. Of course I didn't rob Joe Rogan routine. Anyway, so I go and I go to find this Joe Rogan routine. Motherfucker. I swear to God, it was like word for word.

And you know the way like, obviously we know this is just like, there's a word for it, right? When you're thinking is like aligned. Parallel. There's actually a word. Parallel thinking, right? So I'm like, wow. I immediately messaged Ari Shafir.

Actually, you know, I know it's very close to Jorg. I was like, yo, you got to tell this guy in case it comes across his desk. You got to tell him that this is just a straight up coincidence. Because like, I swear to God, like every point that he made, I made in almost the exact same order. It was crazy. But, you know, that was the angle that you were going to take based on, and I assume he was inspired the same way by, you know, somebody like attacking him on the mammals and other

mammals thing. Anyway, it's a very long story. But I think relevant in this particular thing. And again, I'm aware that I'm, I'm a little old school when it comes to some of this stuff. And I'm open to the, I'm open to you guys sending me the articles. But don't send me articles from the, you know, the Maha sources. I, you know, send me articles from, like, you know,

like peer-reviewed studies, okay? I don't want the dodgy stuff. You know, I want the honest stuff. And yes, I'll check for a conflicts of interest. I'll do all that, all right? So, but we like this, I'm happy with all these DMs. Come at me. I love it, you know?

I like being challenged. So, uh, let's take another. Guys, we love built on the Burn of Phone podcast, because it's kind of one of the coolest things that's happened in paying your rent or paying your mortgage in a long time. because one of those two things is probably your biggest monthly expense. And now with Built, you can get that money working hard for you. Because Built is the membership for where you live that rewards you with points on every housing payment.

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was that every time I cursed, even said HV. Double hockey stick. I would get a bar soap in my mouth and I had to hold it there with tears running down my eyes until he said so. That would be a form of child abuse today. It was horrendous.

If we were out of the hand soap, it was liquid soap. Yeah, no, I got the bar of soap, but I feel like the bar of soap was like once. The bar of soap was a common threat. but I think I only got the bar of soap once. But liquid soap, that, that's cruel, bro. By the way, is she Canadian?

She said H.E. double hockey stick. Have you ever heard that before? Yeah, but maybe she's just traumatized and still won't say hell. Yeah. Because that's what I've never heard. Really? H.E. double hockey stick? Yeah, yeah.

Oh, that's so cute. That's so cute. I love that. I've never actually heard that before. Oh, my God. Well, even hell. I can remember, because I get in trouble once or twice. I remember Shannon Dockery, one of my best friends.

I still know her front of him, but I'm not going to say it off by her. But one of my best friends growing up, she ratted me out one time for cursing. There's a certain age where you rat out your friends. But I can remember exactly where I was. I was at Casino Park Day Camp, right, which is in Flushing Queens. And I was a summer day camp. And I was eight. And I was with this kid and he was cursing

I was like, I'm not allowed to curse. He's like, I'm not allowed to curse either, but I just curse. And I was like, oh, shit, I could just. And that was the end of me. This guy literally said it to me. It's like you don't know. You know, it's like when people tell you that S-A-N-T-A

isn't real, you know, like, you're like, oh no, like this was a real revelation to me. So, yeah, I had the bar of soap. But you know what's bad was when I went Ireland of 14. So Ireland, the F word is just, it's a thinking word, you know, it's um. Like, fuck is um in Ireland. And, uh, I, I just really got into the F word. Like, even in my stand-up specials, you can see it. Like, the F word is just like, it's thoughtlessly comes out of my mouth. And, uh, that, you know, my, pissed my mother off early on, but then she just got

used to it. And actually, we became quite a profane house. You know, our house had, eventually ended up with very limited language restrictions. Every now and then my dad would get pissed off, but you'd usually only be if other people were around. I don't think he really cared. He only cared about keeping up appearances. But anyway, I think that's that. Well discussed. What was that again? Oh, yeah, washing your mouth out.

Yeah, I mean, there was a lot of punishments. You know, can you think, what are some of the great childhood threats from my generation? Was coal in the stocking? Did you get that? Nicole? Cole in the stocking, if you're bad. I mean, the whole concept of like, Santa's not going to bring you gifts.

It's kind of a fucked up threat. But like, it's also like, it's like a hilarious tradition that we keep going. This is the like fake gift giver thing. Even though I love it, you know. Cole and the stocking, what else was there? Oh, well, there was always like,

when you're on your way to somewhere cool, it was always like, don't make me turn. You want to go home? You don't make me turn this car around, you know? And of course, we got hit. Even in the car we got hit. I have a routine about that too. That, you know, my mother would be driving like 75 miles an hour on the LIE.

And like, she'd be like, don't make me turn this car around. That would be like two threats. But then eventually she would just drop that and then just throw the arm back. And it wouldn't matter one of us is getting it, you know, even if it was the wrong one. It was like, it wasn't me. It's like, well, it'll be you the next time. Take it. It's just the way it was.

But my mother was pretty good with the old backhand while driving and smoking. So let's take another. Growing up, I feel like I was left in the car at all times when my mom was running errands. But now I feel like I'm going to have child protective services called on me any time I leave my kid in the car to run into a store for more than like 30 seconds. Now I am running into a dispensary And sometimes you have to lock my doors But at the same time Like tomato tomato

I mean Ignoring the last part Yeah this is an interesting one Because I would never like I would never Well I say that I don't have any kids but I mean we were left in the car all the time And by the way I'm very aware of the danger

Of leaving a kid in a hot car And I've seen those horrible stuff Like, those stories are horrific of, you know, kids that end up dead in the car. Like, that's awful. But if you bring it into the less serious version, which is like, you know, it's just me and the kid and I need, like, milk for the morning, you know, like just running in. You know, I'm not going to do that. But if I look in my soul and I ask myself, am I doing this because everyone will see it and think it's fucked up? Or am I doing it because I think it's fucked up?

And I'm going to be honest, at this moment, I don't have a kid, all right? So I'm not, you know, incriminating myself. But at this moment in time, I feel like, you know, 30 seconds is probably not the end of the world. but I'm also aware that I'm going to be open to a lot of criticism about that. But again, I'm a product. This is the problem with, like, having kids later. So say, Hannah and I have a kid, like, I'm going to be, like, three generations from the kid. So that's the problem is, like, I really was brought up with, like, the sort of the child-rearing ethics of yesteryear in a way that's not, you know, it's not going to be conditioned.

Bill Burr made a whole movie about that, but it's not going to be conducive at times, you know? But at the same time, like, I don't think, so if I, if I was like, parking somewhere and I saw somebody was like, you know, stay there for two seconds, I'm running. The problem is the danger, but see, my issue was obviously

like, it's just so dangerous, like anyone could grab the kid, so I definitely, I wouldn't leave the kid, but I also, I don't think back to the time where I was left in the car a lot. and think that it was that, you know, that particularly crazy. But in saying that, we were outside in our own all the time too. Like, years ago, I did one of these inner child, like, you know, meditation things.

It was good. I'm not, of course, you know, it's easy to be cynical about this stuff. But I found this quite good. And I'm, I'm, like, visual and I'm like, open-minded to it. So I went on quite the journey. And I went back to like one of my very early memories, which is that I was like the youngest of my neighborhood gang. It's one of the reasons why I started drinking at 12. I was like the last, I was the last kid before the sort of the next group kind of formed.

So they all started going to real school before me. So when I was in kindergarten, right, I was in morning kindergarten, the morning session. And then my best friends like PJ, who. I think listens to this and a couple of other kids, they were already in like first grade, second grade, so they didn't come back to like 233 o'clock, right? So I distinctly remember just being like bored and like standing outside,

not with my mom, not in the house, saying, mom, what time of these kids coming back? Just standing outside, like wandering back and forth in my neighborhood, just like waiting for these guys to get off the bus. Nobody looking at me. And I know that people think that's insane now, but that was like a real memory, you know, and then I did all my, I did all my healing stuff about why I was outside and not comfortable just hanging out with my mother.

But that's for a very much deeper podcast. Why did we end up in this place? Lonely days. But on a, on a serious note, on a serious note, while avoiding the serious thing that I was actually just talking about, I was out there on my own, but I didn't feel, it wasn't a feeling, like when I'm doing my inner child workshop thing, I'm not thinking about neglect. I'm thinking about the fact that I don't want to be in there. You know what I mean? So, like, there was just, just a whole argument, you know, Jonathan Haidt. I actually started reading The Anxious Generation because I keep seeing clips about the anxious generation.

And I keep, you know, it keeps coming up as like an issue. So I was like, let me just read this properly. And, you know, he's big into this thing of like that sort of, he has a word for it, but the free, the freedom of that childhood, there's a word for it that he uses that has gone from my head now. Free range childhood. That the free range childhood is actually a lot of developmental stuff that we're missing as a result of not having it. Actually, I know I'm jumping all over the place now, but stay with me. I actually, Hannah got sent these Kardashian, like energy drinks and I drank one. And I think they work. I think they really fuck well.

I need to be stapled to the chair. You're like talking about your childhood trauma after a Kardashian energy drink. Yeah. Crazy. So, yeah. I said to my child, go,

Kylie, go. Whatever that, that thing is. You're doing amazing, sweetie. You're doing amazing, sweetie.

That's what I said to my inner child. You're doing amazing, sweetie. You're on your own. So anyway, one day this, this, you know, deep loneliness and insurpection will serve you well because you'll have a bit of depth to your comedy that some other comedians have. Go, sweetie. Doing great. So anyway.

So I had, yeah, I took one of those any drinks. They really work. Oh, yeah. So I was, let me go back. I went from the idea. I jumped out four, I've jumped out four steps off of what I was talking about. So let me go backwards down the steps. Anyway, I'm reading the X's generation, you know, talking about the free-range childhood thing.

I got to be honest, this conflicts a bit, right, with the seriousness of leaving your kid in the car for 30 seconds, right? Well, I'm not going to do it and I don't think it's good. I also, I don't know if it's as sort of, like, as dangerous as we think, but I am aware that there is some danger, you know? But I am also aware that, like, we really, we've sacrificed a lot of. of positives for like the total safety that we have today. And as much as of course I desire the total safety. Even the total safety doesn't provide the safety that we think it provides. So is it worth introducing back some?

I'm not saying leave your kid in the car. Don't misinterpret what I'm saying. But is it worth introducing some of the free range childhood that so much of certainly, let's just say modern Western society, right? Modern Western, including Australia. You know, you know the type of cultures I'm talking about. Like, those societies thrived at that time, developmentally, by having that. And certainly Jonathan Heights's argument is that, you know, the next generations, particularly that Gen Zs, have suffered greatly as a result of, one, not having that, But then obviously the introduction of social media particularly.

Now, I haven't read it completely, but I think it'll be a good read. So let's, that's the end of my TED talk. It's funny because I just, I just happened to read a comment that was like, Des, don't talk so long in between prompts. Sorry. But you can blame the Kardashians, okay? Because I think I'm doing great, sweetie. So let's take one more.

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my dad used to spank me and my brothers, but we would play a game to see who could last the longest, like each time he would spank us harder and harder and harder. And the winner was the one that could, last more spanks. And I think that's illegal now. This is, when I read this, I was like, yes, this is insanely inappropriate. And obviously, you know, you sort of, you recoil a little bit and you go like,

but then at the same time, I know, like, as a kid, I would have thought that was the most hilarious game ever. But my problem with it is that it's kind of, it takes away from the punishment side in a way, because you kind of get into sort of like, the competition of it because we used to do that in school you you didn't do that did you the punching each other on the arm thing oh yeah for sure for sure you did that right or and there were like a handful of games like see if you can pass out to like oh i someone go unconscious yeah we we did that all time that was like a phase I got really into that but that was like to be like literally like I was I was born to be an addict because like the minute we discovered I was like

oh this is fucking awesome like you just you browned out. Head rush. So how did you guys do that? So our thing was, because it was you crouched down as as much as possible, you breathe in and out, like you try to hype, you know, you basically like, you pump a load of oxygen into your brain. And then you stand up as quick as possible and somebody pushes hard against your chest. Yeah. Is that the one that you guys did? The same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Apparently it's quite dangerous. We really, I, and then I learned how to do it myself. So then I would just, I would just choke myself and pass out, but not like in a sexual way. It's a tree.

No, it wasn't. Trust me. But yeah. Because I used to think that that, this is terrible, but I used to think that that sensation of, you know, like, you know, you feel like the fuzziness come over. And then next thing, but it feels like you've been out for like two hours. You've only been out for like three seconds. And when you come through, you're a bit, when you come to like you're a bit, you know, you're a bit woozy. So I used to actually get quite a kick out of that.

Doing it by yourself is crazy. Oh, wow. That's how desperate you were to not be inside. Drinking by yourself at 13 was pretty crazy too. Right, of course, of course. Lots of self-destructive behavior. I literally, the day that I went into boarding school, I was in Wexford. And so when I first got to Ireland, I stayed with my cousins for a few days in Waterford.

And then my boarding school was in Wexford. But I went to Wexford like a couple of days early. And I actually stayed with friends of my godfather that I mentioned earlier in the actual Westford Town where the school was. And the day, the night that I was due to going to boarding school, that was actually the first full day for the other school in the, in CBS Christian Brothers School. So all the kids I'd been hanging out with, they weren't there. So I had the whole day free. So because I was tall, I had already realized, because I'd done it once already and just had one drink. I realized that I could go to a pub and lie about my age. So I would go into a pub and I would lie and say,

oh, I'm here, you know, working on a, you know, like had a whole story, 14 years old. So I went to the Mayflower in Wexford town, if anyone's, Wexford people listening, Mayflower, it's gone now in Clonard. And I got hammered. I had four pints of Heineken in the Mayflower, which at 14, like, I was actually smashed. No, this was before I ever went in. Right, right, right, right. Got drunk that day, right, managed to somehow, like, I had lunch with that family, like, hammered. Because I did this at like 11 o'clock.

So, like, one o'clock, I'm having lunch with them. I'm like, lit. But they, because you know why they didn't catch me? Because who, they would never enter their fucking mind that this has happened. Right. And you've already established that, like, you maybe needed riddle in. So I feel like it kind of, that behavior goes hand in hand. I remember, like, running, I was like drunk.

I was like running around the green of the estate that they lived on. And, like, of course I'd sobered up. But I went into school that night. That was my first, my introduction to St. Peters was like when I was, like, already beginning to have, like, a hangover from my fucking day drinking session on my own. I'm like sitting in a bar like fucking Norm from Cheers, Cliffy from Cheers sitting at the bar at 14. Anyway. Did you tell all your friends at school or did or did you keep it a secret?

I didn't know one of them. That's the crazy thing. I'm like this kid from Queens and I walk into this boarding school. I don't know a single human. And I'm going into what in Ireland would have been third year, a sophomore year in America, but the way Ireland works. So I was going into Terj year. So most of these kids have been together for two years already.

you know and the yank as they called me shows up but i very quickly made friends i mean it was the best thing that ever happened to me going to ireland and obviously the structure of boarding school really suited me and the the priest that would beat the shit out of me that kind of like got to be honest with it just works with me i don't know why the beat downs and the rigid discipline and the sort of like hell damnation but uh anyway uh i guess i eventually told them but all i know is that developmentally all those kids were way behind me and my first year. But then the following year, you do the inter-sert. There's an exam at the end of third year that I did, but in Ireland, it's considered like sort of a big moment in your education.

So the day that you get your results for that, which is like the following October, most kids go out. And for a lot of kids, that's like their first night drinking. So after that, they all kind of caught up and then we, you know, then we all kind of got level. But for that first year, no. I was drinking on my own. I was drinking with my older cousin in Waterford. But this is getting very autobiographical. But I guess it's no surprise when... I like it. Hannah never read my book, you know?

I'm ranting her out. She bought my book. She never read her. Her mom read it. So the other day, it's funny like every now... Because I read the Giga Squad book, which I really enjoyed. And, oh yeah, so Hannah, she was talking about somebody. I'm not going to say who, but she was just saying that they had a tough life and that they were in foster care.

and that their mother was schizophrenic. And I was like, yeah, that's my dad's life. You know, his mother was schizophrenic. She beat him to a pulp and she ended up in jail and he ended up in foster care. She was like, really? That happened to your dad? And I was like, see?

More evidence. You didn't read the fucking book. You didn't read the book, Hannah. But, sorry, I didn't want to get that talk. I was, I was. I was only telling it in the context of, but fairfile had to my dad. I mean, that's a serious survivor, you know?

He gave us a pretty normal life. But that's what the book is all about. The book is called, if you ever bored one day, I think you can still get it. You can certainly get it as an e-book. My dad was nearly James Bond, but it is very much a celebration of how normal our childhood was,

considering the fact that my dad went through, the hell that he went through. And by the way, my mother didn't have a sweet child. either. And so even though I've, I've insinuated a couple of sort of criticisms of my mother there, and by the way, it goes for both of them. But these are just the things that you embrace in yourself. You get honest about what was done to you, but also you can not only have compassion, but you can have like a, like a sympathy for probably what I would consider to be a way more difficult childhood both my parents had in two different ways. So, but I joke that I'm really,

the product of, um, the joke that I do in Mia Mama is, uh, because I go through the whole history of like both sides of my family's mental health crises and suicides and schizophrenia and stuff. And, uh, so then I say, that's why I was never asked to do who do you think you are. I, what, what is that called in America, the show where they go through your gene, do they go through your roots? Do you know the name of that show? Hannah's mom likes it. I can't remember. It's in Ireland that joke really hits because who do you think you are of such a big show on the BBC. But in the States, it's something to do with tracing your roots. Doesn't really matter.

Finding your roots. Yeah, finding your roots. Is that a show? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I think it's called Finding Roots. So when I do that in the States, that show, I'm going to say, that's why I was never asked to do Finding Your Roots because they're like, no, this is too fucking dark.

Maybe if we do a Halloween special, they can get into my intergenerational trauma. The only thing is that I know. I only have one missing link, which is my, my, great-grandfather is unknown. I've told the story on here before, but you wouldn't have heard it, but my great-grandmother was Bishop. My grandfather was born out of wedlock, which we only found out right towards the end of my dad's life. And so I don't know who my great-grandfather is. I got a couple of loose links on, on what you call it, Ancestry.com. And they tend to be in Wales. So I feel like that's it's them.

But maybe one of these days, if I got asked to do one of these shows, I can find out who to fuck my great-grandfather was. But the joke with Hannah is that Hannah knew her great-grandfather, whereas my great-grandfather died in the Battle of the Psalm, which is World War I, by the way, just for the non-historically minded. This is not fair because these are new jokes for you,

but I feel like the dollars are like, heard it, heard it. So let's take another before we get more complaints about my ranting and raving. I know. I'm like more knee stuff. I'm like the exact opposite of the dialers. Oh yeah. Yes, exactly. My knee's doing okay, but I'm glad to hear it. I'll talk. It's only okay, but we'll see. We'll see. Let's go. Hello, big fan, Des, what you got going on. Well done. Something that feels illegal from my childhood is a third row in the back that faces the back of the road. I'm thinking of a Volvo specifically and a seat in the middle of the front row of a truck or we had it just in our sedan. Did anyone else have this?

It feels like that could not have been real. Yeah, the middle seat. Do you remember the middle seat in the front? I don't think I ever personally experienced this, but I definitely have talked to people who they were like, yeah, I got sat there when I was. a baby or a little kid. That was the norm. That was the middle seat in the front was the norm. I remember when that disappeared,

I remember the inconvenience of it. It's like, oh, what if I need to get out on the other side? This is so annoying. We never had a station wagon. I was always jealous of the station wagon families. But when I did Ryan Sickler's pocket, Ryan Sickler does this like back in the day thing, deals with a lot of these themes.

I can't remember that it's a nostalgia name. brought up that he had the seats facing backwards, which I totally remember. I mean, it's a pretty fascinating. So you'd be like on the highway and like, you know, he's big, big families, like six kids. So some of the kids would end up in the backseat facing back. Have you ever seen it? Do you know what I'm talking about, Nicole? Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. But here's the thing. Here's the thing. Obviously, we weren't wearing seatbelts. But other than the no seatbelts, I'm not exactly sure like what the dangerous is the danger because like a car could slam you in the back. But like if a car slams you in the back, like it's just dangerous anyway. So I assumed that there was some dangerous because they did get

rid of them. But I used to think they were so fun sitting back there because you could like, I mean, let's face it, basically what you were doing was making faces at the cars in front of you, trying to piss people off, you know. It was an easier way to get the truckers to honk the horn, which we discovered, which I discovered on this podcast, Hannah's generation did too, which is great to know that apparently that still exists, which is so cool. Because we used to I think that was the coolest thing ever to get the guys to hunk. So, but seatbelts, seatbelts is going to come up anyway. Actually, play the seatbelts one and then we'll get into this whole general issue.

Hey there. I'm leaving a voicemail from down in Australia. So the few things that I can think of that we used to do in the 80s that feel illegal now, and actually I think technically are illegal now, are not wearing seatbelts in the car. that's even if you're sitting in a seat. But what we typically had in a family of five, we had one car that seated five and another car that seated two. And sometimes we'd just be shoved in the back of the car that only seated two.

We'd just be rolling around the back as my dad burned around the streets. So that's definitely a thing that used to happen all the time. Not wearing bike helmets. Like we never wore bike helmets back then, but now you can. Now you have to. In Australia, it's actually a legal requirement. Don't know about elsewhere.

The other thing that we used to... Oh, she ran out of time. Actually, Australia got me into wearing bike helmets. Australia's actually one of the only places that made it illegal. They're very serious about it. Because one night I remember doing the Melbourne Comedy Festival, and I would always get a bike, actually. And I had the same bike for years.

I would just like, you know, hide it somewhere or sometimes a comedian would take it. But one night I forgot my helmet and I cycled home after my gig. Like one in the morning, it's like nobody on the road. You know, I was doing like the festival club and I was cycling out to Pran where I was staying. And this guy on the street was like, you're not wearing a helmet, mate, you know? I was like, it's like a random dude. Of course I fuck you. I gave him a piece of my mind.

Just because it was like, I get it, bro. I get your. concern for my safety, but it's also like none of your fucking business, you know, but, you know, he's right. He was right. And I was wrong. But at the same time, it's not a big deal, bro. It's one of the morning.

There's nobody on the road. And I get it. If I fell and I hit my head and, you know, that would be a burden on the health system. I understand it. But I also just thought it was, you know, just not necessary. I think he was looking for agro. And he said it to the right guy. Jackpot.

So anyway, the seatbelt thing is crazy because obviously I'm old enough to remember when they made it a law. But the crazy thing is that when they made it a law, my understanding, and I could be wrong, is that originally it was only for the front seat. And I'm still scarred to this day. These days I do buckle it in the back seat, but I'm still scarred in that I feel like it's not necessarily. And I know that it is. I know it is. But in my mind, like, you ever get in an Uber and like, it's like the thing's not

click in or like they just have like a really, like the thing is kind of jammed and you can't get out? I'm just like, I still in my mind think it's not a big deal. And I know it is, by the way. But I am a product of that generation where it was like, if you're sitting in the front, you have to buckle your seatbelt. But in the back was fine. And by the way, my parents, we never, my entire childhood, the law was in the front.

in the back, they never said buckle it. Like, never. My entire childhood was unbuckled in the backseat. Well, like, but out of shadow of a doubt. Actually, can you Google that and see if it was just a misinterpretation of the law by us? Or was it only the front seat originally? New York State. Curious to know, because that's the way we were living.

Not until 2020 did New York State require all passengers to buckle up regardless of age or seating position, including in the backseat. So I think before then, it was fair. Like, I remember as a kid, I think the law, I grew up in New York State was past a certain age in the backseat. You didn't have to wear a seatbelt. And I really took advantage of that as a kid. He said like, I'm not wearing this. Yeah.

I'm unhaughtling. And by the way, shoulder straps in the back was very late. Back in the, as kids, there was no shoulder in the back. That came way later. That was a front seat thing. the shoulder strap. But these days, it's the, unless you're in the, I think most cars have three shoulder straps in the back.

But anyway, thank God for that law, saved a lot of people's lives. But we completely ignored it. And we, you know, we like, we would like jumping over each other in the back or like if somebody was in the front seat, like while my mother was driving, they would like jump in that, like, while she's driving, like jumping in the middle. like could have just like totally knocked her hand or changed the gear in the car. There was a lot of, there was like a lot of unsafe behavior in fairness. By the way, we didn't have air conditioning in our first two cars.

Our first car was an orange Plymouth duster, which everyone thought looked like the Dukes of Hazard. So we used to make, we used to make my mother let us get in the car through the window like the Dukes of Hazard do. And then we got a red Ford Fairmont, which my brothers then were old. enough to remember that. But neither the duster nor the Fairmont had working air conditioning. So the first car that we got working air conditioning was a mercury cougar in the sort of mid-80s. And I don't know how, we didn't have air conditioning at home either, by the way. The first time we had air conditioning, I was like teenager. So actually, these days I don't know how we did that, but I have no, I have no memories of just being like torturously hot. I have, I have,

only have memories of just loving hot bedrooms and like the sound of a fan you know so loud is chale these kids out there are too soft that's what i see let's take let's take one or two more before we go so i don't get i don't get admonished in the comments about the lack of uh messages we got plenty we'll we'll do another one of these because they're so fun what i'll try to do is i'll try to get another ancient human to to do another round of these in the future something that feels illegal now that happened growing up, hopping over to somebody's house to ask them to hang out. If somebody knocked on my door and I opened it and it was a good friend of mine and they said, hey, you want to kick it right now? I'd say, I can't believe you're putting me in this fucking

position. No. So much pressure. Fuck that. I do think it is a loss of joy. And so I'm part of the problem that I prefer to text you back three days later and say, oh, my God, I just saw this. But it truly heals illegal. It truly does. Very good. Now, obviously, Sebastian Manascoco has probably one of the top 10 viral routines of the last 15 years about the doorbell and people just come out over the house and company, which if you've never seen it, I highly recommend watching. Although, I probably think that people that are super young, probably don't get the humor of that. But whether you're a fan of Sebastian Menaal Scott or not, if you don't think that that is one of the great routines of our time, then you don't know

comedy. But anyway, it is amazing how the lost art of just knocking over to somebody's house has gone. And I assume that comes up in Jonathan Heights book, but I think that that's bad for society. Like, I feel like there's a loss of randomness. I mean, every now and then you bump into somebody, end up having a good time with them. but I would never I would never go and knock on somebody's door and be like, yo, what's the story?

Like, I would just, it would never. Like, honestly, if Hannah's in another room, I'll usually text her first just to make sure she's not sleeping. You know? Like, I don't want to,

I don't want to wake up somebody who's having a nap, you know? Do you text? Do you live with your boyfriend? Yeah. Do you guys text each other in the house? Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

He spends a lot of time in the bathroom, so a lot of times it's like that sort of text. Well, I know this is foreign for you because you're the only man that's a fast pooper in the world. Oh, right, he's a long pooper. So we'll be chatting in there. And I also am the napper. So he oftentimes has to see if I'm napping or not for sure. Yeah. Well, Hannah's the napper. Uh-huh.

By the way, I have a lot more respect for Hannah's naps than she does for mine. And my naps are very short in general. but every now and then I will just fall asleep and then see because Hannah can't identify with the fact that like just her aura will wake me up because I could like I could come in and do like a half hour rehab in the bedroom like I could do my exercises in the bedroom while Hannah's napping and she won't wake up or if she does she'll fall right back to sleep whereas like she can just like like just like just peep her head around the corner and I'll be like what so I'm just like a lot of naps on me I'm just like so Hannah has ruined a lot a lot of naps on me I can tell you. But anyway, Hannah is the napper. So yeah, if she's like in the other room, I'll always be just conscious of like, so. But I think I talked to my brother about this. They, they text a lot too in the house. I think, I think it must be pretty normal, actually. So we've gone from knocking on to like other people's houses, doors randomly to like not even moving around your own house without announcing yourself on your phone in advance. So yes, this is a,

This is something that's lost. It should almost be like something that you're supposed to do like once a week. It's like, hey, have you knocked up randomly to a friend this week? You should. I think it's good for everybody. Everybody's relationship. But very funny message. You pick, oh, let's pick one that's totally not related.

Somebody messaged in about something kind of dirty, but I thought it was quite funny. It's the giving head one. Hey guys, so I have a question that's unrelated to any prompt right now, but I need some male expertise and advice and input. So what does it mean when a guy tells you that you gave him the best head and like gasses me up? Is he truly gassing me up and like doing this because it's true? Or is he doing it because he wants more head and thinks that like all. be convinced if I get told I did a good job. Like, he's rewarding me.

Just let me know. I'm curious. Or I love me flexing right now because I'm a master of my craft. You know what I mean? Anyways. I love you guys. I love the pod. I miss Hannah. But she's doing so good. I love her so much. And I love all the guests.

I'm done now. I'm stone. It's funny. Sometimes they have like a giggler cadence. I'm a master of my craft. But very funny. Okay. I think it's interesting the way it's like like your training. Well, men are dogs, as you know. And they respond to rewards.

So they assume that you are the same. But I don't think that's the case. What I think is that you should definitely take the compliment because, you know, I don't think he's trying to manipulate you. And who knows if it's the best. had, but without a shadow of a doubt, he's expressing that it was like awesome. And I think that that in itself is enough. I think, I think, you know, listen, I get it.

I've seen all the horrible men and I've heard all the messages that have come through the dialer hotline over the last couple of years. I know that men are more prone to letting you down than not. I'm aware, ladies. But what I will say is that, at least in this situation, just take him out his word. because no matter what, he's definitely expressing that he really enjoyed it. He's not trying to manipulate you, I can promise you. He really would, like, thought it was awesome.

And so congratulations, keep it up. I think most people that are in long-term relationship, I probably be like, there'll be a time with your wish he's this vocal. You know, it's like, sometimes it could get a bit sort of like monotonous and lacks the sort of like the excitement of the new relationship. But so just you're a master of your craft. you're a master of your craft. Take that and enjoy your being stoned.

We appreciate the support. Very funny message. And guys, we'll be back next week. I wonder what... Oh, so actually, yeah, the way it's going to work out, most likely... Let's put it this way, guys. I'm not great at organizing, but this will either have been just before or just after our health episode. But either way, keep coming back.

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