Berner Phone - Tracey Carnazzo: Punching People & Being Too Much
Episode Date: May 27, 2020Tracey explains how reality tv shaped her into the person she is today, being an out of control teen, her fear of germs, instagram mental break downs, getting cheated on, and how to negotiate for more... money. Join my patreon for more piping hot tea. --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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I feel like our souls were made of the same garbage.
Welcome to Burning Hell.
Okay, what is up, you little devils?
We are in the scary, dark, hot depths of hell with a spicy guest.
name is Tracy Carnazzo. Tracy, April, Teresa Carnasso.
That was perfect. Did I get it? Okay, perfect. So I met Tracy on one of her many
podcasts. She had me on only in New York, is the name where we talk shit about being from
New York. And she hosts podcast, T-Momom Trash Talk, 90-day Fiancee Trash Talk. Any other ones?
No, that's really it. And then I just have like secret different podcasts on my Patreon.
that's for like the real deep diggers yeah these are secret there's a lot of shit talking going on it's
amazing well that's what the little devils love to hear because we love reality tv we love shit
talking and you i love how you're in your bio you wrote your oCD and love for trash tv have
shaped you into the person you are today that's exactly who i am there's like not even anything
deeper to me than that i've always called it i think that describes me perfectly what was your first
Reality TV show, you remember being like, oh, hell yeah, this is my shit.
Okay, so first of all, before even reality TV, what really got me into it was Mori.
Mori Popovich was the person that just like, I guess inspired me.
Like, you know, when I get an award, one day I'll get an award for something.
We don't know what it's for, but when I accept it.
He's your Oprah.
He's my, you know, like I base my life around Mori Povich.
Moraypovich, I just remember staying home from school and watching Moore.
and my favorite part of Mori was the out of control teens and I was like yes this is who I am like
because I don't want to say I wasn't an out of control teen because I wasn't not an out of control teen
but I just like really connected with these girls because I couldn't believe how crazy they were
when they were like 12 years old and they're like I want a baby I don't give a fuck and I was like yes
you are insane you are insane like the girls that you feel saner yes that's exactly what
these girls used to like steal baby clothes do you remember these these episodes they were so good
i felt so naughty when i'd watch it because it because it was like while we were supposed to be at
school it was like this weird forbidden thing where it's like i don't know who would watch it but like
right this is like adult tv this is an adult with no job tv yeah like an adult where things are
going really bad tv and they need something to make them feel a little less shitty about themselves
right that's why there's always like lawyer commercials in between it it's always like
you know, Apex Technical School where you can get a degree in mechanics or, you know,
what was it, uh, J.G. Wentworth. You know, you need cash now or, uh, you know, what was it?
Salino and Barnes, you know, it's like, did you get in a car accident and people are sitting
home like, I think I might have gotten in a little bit of a car accident, but I could try harder.
It also pisses me off because like the cash me outside girl blew the fuck up when like the people
on Moripovic
walked so she could run.
There were so many
good cash-me-outside girls
but Dr. Phil was like
so what do you think is going on
and then she just said that one line
the messiest people were on Moripovitch's show.
Mori was being threatened way before Dr. Phil.
Oh my God.
Yeah, you see the father ones I really did like
I like the paternity test but I love the out of control team
so when I saw that MTV
was going to be doing
a show called 16 and pregnant
I was like I can't believe my luck
I can't wait to watch this
and I just remember me and my co-host
who you know she was my best friend growing up
I was like something's happening
MTV is doing the show 16 and pregnant
I just remember counting down the days
and it delivered it delivered all the way
and I was in since then
I love those shows too
because these people didn't go on Mori to get famous
it was just to like be messy
yeah
they were they would go there to fight so that there were witnesses yeah and that's the rawest realest shit ever like nowadays is The Bachelor there are some really real moments but like everyone knows they're going there for fame and these people literally were just like I want to show the world that you are a fucking terrible boyfriend and you fucks me over and I'm going to fuck you over tonight and then they take their shoes off Hannah they take their shoes off and you know something crazy going on
they'd like fight the security guards i mean look at where steve wilcoast was jerry springer's security guard and he got his own talk show
that's called yeah that's how you dominate an industry i i also don't even think it got the press it deserved like
it probably kept like middle america just running those shows like it kept people excited to live
and it also gave people $50 in the audience to sit in the audience
and what's better than that?
It's literally the financial stability of the United States.
Yeah.
That was unemployment before unemployment.
Also, by the way, you can tell we're both from New York
because we're going to be, I'm going to be talking in my New York accent the whole time,
and we'll be talking on top of each other the whole time.
But you guys, we understand each other.
We know what we're going to say.
I feel like our souls were made of the same garbage.
Exactly.
The one thing that people get so mad is, like, you always interrupt your guest.
And I'll tell it again.
If I wait after you talk and there's a second or two, that means I wasn't listening and I'm deciding how I should act to pretend I was listening.
Right.
Like, oh, cool.
That's crazy.
That's mine.
Wow.
Oh, my God, crazy.
Really?
Anyway.
That's literally when like your friend is going off about something that you've heard a bazillion times.
And then she stops talking and you go, oh my God, I know.
right right she's like really i just told you my whole family got murdered that's crazy um when did
you start getting into comedy was it before after you started the podcast i i started the podcast after
comedy um i started doing comedy and then i actually the first podcast that i ever hosted was with
justin silver and yannis poppice and we did uh funny for phido and it was a dog podcast this is
really where I broke through. This is really where I shine in the dog industry. I mean, maybe
this was four years ago. This wasn't that long ago. I used to do podcasts. I just didn't have
my own podcast. I thought you had to be smarter than me to do a podcast. And then when I really
looked into it, I'm like, oh, look at all these morons with podcasts. I could do this too.
You're like, if Justin Silver can talk to dogs and do a podcast, I could do whatever I want.
Exactly. I was like, I don't know how to use garage ban. And then Justin shows you.
me how to use garage ban and then all of a sudden every single reality TV comes to life
via podcasting in my dining room yeah so we did that podcast and then we did another podcast
Justin and I did our own podcast called neurotica which was about sex and just being crazy
and OCD and anxiety so we did that and then I had to break away because I was too deep into the
trash talk podcasts and Justin still does his neurotica on his own and well good for you
That can be hard.
That can be hard to start something with a friend and then, like, go separate ways.
But reality TV is more important than anything.
Yeah, sorry.
Sorry, but, you know, these teen girls are not going to trash themselves.
Sorry, but I also, when I met you, you were just so refreshing, like, straight shooter who is just so witty, so funny, but also not, like, thinks they're better than everyone else, you know?
no because it's like you have to you have to know that like we all uh we're all going to fall together
i mean look at what we're doing right now we are in this uh pandemic like the world is ending
comedy's over we're all on the same page now we're all fired we're all fired we're all fired
we're fired signfeld's fired chris rock is fired like we're all fired the same
so it's like Kevin Hart is fired I mean he's I'm making the same I'm making the same
amount of tour money as Kevin Hart right now exactly well I've you know I've always
made that kind of so I think that it's like it's really important to know that like
we're all kind of trying to figure this out you know and and especially like in the age that
we live in now where we're producing so much of our own stuff yeah I wouldn't know how to
do any of this if I didn't like really dig deep and I feel like that's not fair like in
comedy I feel like everyone has a secret no one wants to tell you who books anything no one wants
to tell you how to do anything it's like oh you have that video with the caption on how'd you do it
and they're like oh i don't know uh you should google it and it's like but what do you think like that
you're a scientist that has a cure to a disease dude i've been doing stand-up comedy for a year
i'd been like writing comedy and like whatever bullshit producing comedy videos but i was finally like
I'm going to do stand-up.
I literally was just asking, like, how the fuck to stand-up work, and no one would tell me.
No, we'll tell you.
No one will tell you.
I literally was, like, how do you write your jokes?
Like, or, like, any, but I'm, like, open.
I say whatever.
You should be.
You should be.
Because guess what?
Shasty.
Yes.
There's room for everyone.
And also, I feel like, no one.
I want to do a shout-out.
Do it.
Shout-out.
To Andrea Allen.
Because that bitch, I was like, I kind of was just like, hey,
I've been, like, booking my own shows, but, like, I just want to do some, like, small, small bar shows to just, like, get a grind that, like, aren't open mics, but, like, aren't, like, at clubs.
And she literally goes, here's a document.
And she sent me a document of, like, all the contacts.
Obviously, I have to reach out.
I have to send my reel or I have to open up.
But, like, that was so awesome.
And then I had her on my podcast.
There's a surplus of everything.
And I believe the more you give, the more you get.
that is 100%
so Andrea Allen is one of my co-hosts
we do only in New York together
and Andrea also produces Keith and the girl
which is where I really started
podcasting
you know they would have me on and I always thought
like you said like you're like oh you're funny and you're not
annoying and I never thought that about myself
before
and then I went on Keith and the girl and I was like
oh my God people like me
this is wild I don't know why but here we are
and you know they wanted me on again and
And I was like, oh, my God, why would you, like, I just feel like I don't have that unique of an
experience in life.
And then as I start talking, I'm like, oh, I've had like 23 jobs.
Oh, yeah.
Like, I've lived, like, 40 lifetimes.
And people are like, how old are you?
Also, people are fascinated by people who are, like, really authentically themselves.
And I feel like, you can tell you're not trying to come off in a different way.
And I think that the best way to, like, attract people is not by,
being what you think people want you to be, but being like painfully yourself because it comforts
people.
I think that, yeah, and I think that that's a lot of stuff that I explored when I did neurotica
with Justin is like, you know, we're flawed.
We're so flawed.
And if we talk about those flaws, other people with the same flaws are really going to connect
with us.
And that's what we did.
I remember the word, I forgot.
Abundance, the law of abundance.
That was good.
They say like, the more you spend money, the more you make money, which, you know.
Oh, I don't know if that's true, Hannah.
I know as I said it I was like it sounds right no I had my episode with Eliza Kelly she's like this astrologer and she was like there's a theory of money manifestation it's like the more you give the more you end up getting like if you're really cheap about it you end up like having like restrictions in your mind it's just the law of abundance of like manifest love and positivity and like you will receive that shit and I'm like I am like have a weird spiritual side to me that's also but you wouldn't ever think it
But this podcast has helped me realize that.
I think it.
You have white girl powers.
I understand.
Yeah.
Like I could throw out a tarot card any second and make some bullshit up.
You never know.
No, I totally agree with you on the like the more you give, the more you get.
Because, you know, in comedy, especially like, if you're not going to help anyone, how do you expect people to help you?
We book ourselves, like we book each other more than any kind of anything.
Like I've gotten more opportunities from my peers.
years than I've ever did from anyone else.
Like everything that I've gotten is from a recommendation.
And if you're easy to work with and you're kind to people and you're always looking
out, like people eventually will look out for you.
And I think that.
Yeah, you not helping one person is not going to get you ahead.
Like they're eventually, if you're not talented, you not helping other people is not
going to make you successful.
The only thing you control is yourself and you being successful does not take away
for my success and I think it's important for people to hear that also all of us can give like 20 names
of people who got us where we are yep like I'm not just me like I've so many people that
pushed me in certain directions or inspired me or gave me like really solid advice even fucking
Andrew Colin was the one who was like you and page need to start doing giggly squad and I was like
I don't know and he's like do it and now like does anyone see his name no but he was behind it
Poor Andrew.
Does anyone care about Andrew Collin?
No.
But do I keep a relevant?
Yes.
But he does have a good cashmere sweater collection.
He does.
And he has a cute little lisp and we send him our love.
So let's go.
Let's get a little darker now.
I'm going to get into the OCD because OCD is a wide spectrum.
I've talked to people who have OCD on the pod before.
I have OCD, but I haven't really gotten into it in the podcast that much because I think I'm so confused of what kind I have.
Can you shed some light?
sure um so what i'm suffering from mostly is and this is before the time that we're living in now
is just a fear of germs when i think about germs i feel like i'm gonna find oh my god yeah so here we are
uh all of my nightmares are true you're like i'm the only one who's been prepared for this
i have been prepared for this like when when this whole thing started people were like listen
when you go out okay and you go into a supermarket and then you go into a supermarket and then you
go back outside, you should
wash your hands, puerl them
or use some kind of wipe. And I'm like,
yeah. Yeah, I've been doing this
forever. Like, I will sit down
to eat with you and like
offer you a wet wipe or a Purell wipe
and people would be like,
why are you giving me this?
All those people were like, that girl
Tracy was right. Yeah, I just
thought maybe you didn't want to be disgusting. But
okay, no, I mean, eat with your hands after you
touch the subway pole. That's fine. So
other people that grosses you out when they're being
germaphobes how has it
like hurt or
like thwarted your life
by having
Oh my God so the the main thing that
I do not take public transportation
I haven't been on the train since 2012
You have a car though
I have a car and I have to make sure that I have a car
because I won't get on public transportation
so that's like you know
that's a different lifestyle for sure
Would you do Uber?
No I don't go in an Uber
like I don't know who's been in this Uber
there's germs it's that's like being
in a subway car but just smaller
Yeah, yeah
It's not great, you know
How has it offended your relationships?
I don't like people in my house
That I don't really trust because I don't know what's going on
Like I used to date this guy with a kid
And I used to ask him about his kids are disgusting
Oh my God, I used to ask him about his kid constantly
I'd be like, how does he feel what's going on with him
And he's like, do you want to meet him?
I'm like, no, I need to know if he's sick
because if he's sick
you can't come to my house
like that's all I cared about
where do you think this stems from
did you have like a bad illness as a kid
or did you see someone really sick as a kid
I think that it
I mean I've always kind of had it inside of me
you know it's always like
was waiting to like come out
pretty bad but my father was really sick
my father passed away in 2006
and he had cancer
and when he was going through chemo
it was very scary because if you give him a cold
like that's it and then like you've killed your dad that's so sad so I think that that really kind of when I was about 22
you know when he was sick that's when it was like kind of like at its height but I've always been scared of
being sick myself so I remember even when I was little when my brother would be sick I would ask my mom like
hey can I just like go stay with like anyone else like could I just not be in this house she'd be like
you are seven you live here like you can't go what about the argument
that like the more you let yourself be around germs,
it heightens your immune system.
How's that going with COVID?
How's that doing?
It's, I mean, it's not going well.
Right.
So you were scared of like dying from an illness?
I don't want to, listen, I'm not scared of dying.
I think we all want to die.
We're comics.
But I don't want to suffer.
I don't want to die.
I don't know what you're doing in comedy.
I want to do it when I want to do it.
Right, but you also don't want to like die like slow.
I mean, I wouldn't mind getting like, you know, shot by a stray bullet real quick, but I don't, I don't want to die of an illness and, you know, painfully in the hospital and be on a respiratory.
Like, this is not my dream.
I dated a germaphobe and he, like, taught me, like, you don't press the elevator buttons.
You use your knuckle or your elbow.
And then he would, like, freak out if, like, I'm eating popcorn.
It would hit the couch.
And then I would eat it.
and then I would just do it more to fuck with him
and then I was like what you're not going to kiss me now
you're not going to kiss me
because my thing is like
you will drive yourself crazy
and then we broke up
but like there are so many germs everywhere
you drive yourself insane
and that's why people are like losing it right now
but also do you have you talk to someone
to be like you're channeling your anxiety
of life into these germs
you're projecting onto these germs
yeah of course listen I go to therapy twice a week
you I am not okay like I've been in therapy for a very long time um that's good that's healthy though
yeah sure uh it's great everything's fine everything's amazing but yeah no of course we we
I think that the things in my life that I can't control are the things that make me so crazy
because again it's like I have OCD and I need to control everything I need to live in a controlled
environment and I mean
right now we are living
in the most uncontrolled environment
possible
how are you
and I just
you know at first I was not great
now I feel a little bit better
you know I've just been trying to be as careful as possible
and just getting the facts I don't watch
the news anymore
and I really just you know I know the fact
is is that it's not
airborne it goes
by droplets you know I wear
gloves I wear a mask I don't touch
anything i come home i wash everything what am i going to do that's all we could really do but i mean i
used to say like i wish it was socially acceptable to just wear a mask every day
my dreams and my nightmares are coming true at the same like you seem like the most prepared i like
most of us they had to teach us how to wash our hands yeah they're like hey fucking idiots
when when the stores ran out of hand soap i was like but what were you doing before what was
happening before was this just like a wipe so besides oCD what has made you want to go to therapy
oh what do you mean everything else in my life is just so perfect um i'm just the most
i'm anxious i'm a very very anxious mess i have tons of phobias i have um just like a lot
of anxiety overall i think what are some of your phobias number
number one phobia vomit just afraid of it oh my god okay oh you vomiting or other people
both everything all of it same honestly same yeah i i don't drink because of it and because of many
other reasons but that's a big one i don't like i mean subway and a guy puked on me in a crowded
yeah see that's and that's why i haven't been on the subway since 2012 because that is i want better
for you you know like i don't want you dude it was it got on my shoe and i was like well days ruined
right but see the thing is like you are okay right and you survived that like I don't know if I
would have survived that I think that I might have been in a hospital you were like oh man
daze ruins I would have been like 911 what's your emergency hi hi hi hi hi train help
I can't breathe I can't right right right and then they would have been like we have a dead
body on the platform at Roosevelt Island
I mean I had absurd phobias that I like created in my head
I was a tennis player I talk about it people get upset that I bring up tennis but I do
I would get a phobia that I would be playing division one tennis
and that I just wouldn't be able to hit a second serve
like what's the worst what's the worst possible scenario is that I can't hit a second
serve and then I literally would go on the court and couldn't do it
because I like scared yourself out to it yeah and I would do that all the
the time and I thought I was just a mental case but I realized it was just anxiety that I wasn't
properly handling and it was coming out like physically and fucked me up.
See, I always knew that we bonded because I in high school pretended that I was on the tennis
team.
So I knew the tennis coach because he would, my friend was on the tennis team.
My friend Jessica was on the tennis team.
I went to Faris Till's high school.
That's where I graduated.
Well, I went to a few high schools, but that's where I graduate.
I was always playing at the National Tennis Center.
See, I live right by the West Side Tennis Stadium.
You know where that was, right?
Yeah, yeah.
So I grew up watching tennis, never playing it.
So I pretended that I was on the tennis team because my friend Jessica was in my English class
and she would get out early for tennis practice.
And the coach would come over and wave through the door and then she would be allowed out.
so I was like fuck you you get out early I'm gonna be quote unquote on the tennis team
so I used to tell my teachers that I was on the tennis team and I would leave classes early
and I would always be really friendly with the tennis coach so he would wave to me in the hallway
and obviously it's like I'm not not on the tennis team see that is street smart that's what
school should be about but you said that you were like kind of a bad kid
in what ways were you bad
kid especially if you're like scared of everything oh there's a little bit of fighting yeah oh so you
it's i wasn't scared of that yeah you're like i'll bust a girl's head open but don't you dare spit on me
or i'll fucking freak out right like i'll wash my hands after i punch him in the face but
dude you're such a tough chick i love this i want to punch someone in the face so bad do it there are
legalities when you're older uh you know what there are but you know what you got to you got to punch someone
who's not going to tell yeah this is what i love
about like the subway is when everyone just use this is the positive thing about subway you just
hold everything in until you're on the subway and from someone nudges you the wrong way and you go
and you just shove the whole car is your problem and you shove them back and everyone's like just
a little flare up normal flare up or like when a car goes 15 people fall down or when a car goes
like a tiny bit into the crosswalk I'm like what the fuck is wrong with you and everyone around
you ever hit the car with your hand like slap it and then start screaming at that
Yeah, this is, I mean, I never like, I don't really, yeah, no, I do that.
But I'm more like, I'm quick with it.
Like, I won't make a long scene, but like I'll snap for a second and then get back.
But that's a classic.
I don't really have road rage per se, but I have been so annoyed by someone and I've cut them off and like block them off so they couldn't get down the block.
And then like gotten out of my car and screamed at them.
Passive aggressive and scary is a great combination.
When was the last time you punched someone in the face?
Oh, God.
it's been so long it's been too long okay yeah I'm glad I reminded you you're like I was missing
something I knew that I had to do something put on your gloves and go punch someone during the quarantine
do something that you've always wanted to and it's like yeah maybe I need to with gloves on of course
maybe boxing gloves I don't know how have you been able to calm your anger down from clearly having a
little bit of a short fuse as a kid wait what do you mean I was fine no I try to think
about jail. I try to think about how dirty jail is. That's the only thing that ever. I mean,
I went, I got arrested one time. Um, and it was, it wasn't the worst experience. To be totally
honest with you, it wasn't the worst. Um, like I made some long time friends. I, we talk shop.
Yeah, like I made friends with the cops. They were cool. Like, you know, it was, I mean,
you know, I was there all day. But, um, it was worth, like I can tell you, it was worth it.
It was worth every single, uh, thing that I did. And I wouldn't, I wouldn't. I would,
change it for the world and really nothing happened to me you know because you have to have like a pretty
you have to have like a record you can't just punch them in the face and then like go to prison yeah yeah
you know you're kind of okay um but yeah i i think about jail i think about like they're you know
like i'm gluten free now and you know if i went to jail like what are the options you know it's
like baloney sandwich no can't do that i don't eat processed meats number one uh can't even
eat the white bread i'd be sick then uh corn flakes they could be dry corn like corn flakes you think
they're gluten-free because they're corn and then i found out from another comic uh riley lasin
she has celiac disease and i was like i don't know why i keep getting sick you know i'm eating
these corn flakes she's like yeah honey they have like this malt in them that has gluten in it
and i'm like no one can be trusted no one can't
can be trusted this is what i mean so like do i want to be sick in jail like i wouldn't even be
able to have a meal no i don't want to be in prison like that like you know you think that it's it's
dirty you know in new york city like imagine showering in prison dude the jails right now i don't
i can't even literally i can't think about it my oh yeah this is terrifying what is something
that you like what's your way of sabotaging yourself in your life
Oh, just being wild.
I do, I like to, I like, I don't know if you've ever seen.
I like to spiral out of control on Instagram.
Oh, I haven't seen.
Is this like an Instagram?
Oh, yeah.
You can, you can actually trace the breakdowns.
It's really fun.
People love it.
I'm obsessed with that.
You're starting.
What do you, what kind of stuff do you go off about?
Um, just like, uh, relationship stuff, um, you know, so I'll post like one meme, right?
And then it's like, you know, it's like kind of funny and you're like, maybe she means
something by this.
but maybe it's just like silly and she reposted it.
And most people stop there.
Most people put like a little sub-tweet and they're like, okay.
That's just you warming up.
That's you stretching.
It's warming up.
I'm just testing the water, seeing, do you guys like this?
You guys like it?
Okay, watch this.
And then all of a sudden I have 3,000 saved poetry quotes slash funny memes and I just fire them out.
It's usually around 3, 4 in the morning.
And you wake up to live.
like I don't know maybe two 300 DMs of like hey girl you got this I've actually had I will go off
on tweets at like 1 a.m but just because like I'm you know when you feel a spur of creativity and they're
just funny ones occasionally they're like about being depressed or whatever and yeah but like they're
just like 15 20 and I get messages going hey just checking in are you okay and I was like bitch I'm being
that's how you know it's good that's how you know it's good when the people start
to worry.
When people are calling your parents.
Then you're a comedian.
I feel like you love the control, but then it sounds like because you're so controlled
all the time, when you stop being controlled, you spiral.
So it's like it's these two like not, I don't want to use the word bipolar, but it's these
two extremes.
It's totally, yeah, I mean, it depends on like what side of me that you get.
It's almost like I'm a Scorpio, but I'm not.
my moon is in scorpio
oh
I don't know where my moon is
no I think my scorpio's rising
whatever I have a scorpio
that's what I was trying to tell you
I am the worst white girl ever
like I was such a fucking wannabe
I'm never gonna trust your tarot car reading
I used to do these horoscopes
on Instagram where I'd read a real one
and then like try to understand it
but then say it in like a ratchet way
like the moon's in Uranus
you should write your own horoscopes
yeah like if you do anal
like you're going to shit yourself tonight
so don't do it well that is that's just a fact
of life yeah I just want to do more
relatable shit that people care about in horoscopes
are you into anal? I tried it once
in yeah like so stupid
in the shower with a guy
where it's like shower sex isn't good at all and like we didn't even try
lube and I just remember being like this is we like
he barely it barely happened oh you thought water was the loop
is that what happened girl I'm a dumb ass I was like
20 and was just
that's that's where it yeah and like i didn't have because also like when you're in a sexual mode
you're not like let's google how to have anal no you're like put it in how did the cavemen do it right now
it's like at least you would make like a facebook status and be like hey guys thinking about anal any tips
yeah i would do like an a m on instagram and be like what is your experience with anal what should i look
out for i would go on redid i would go to lincoln find i would go talk to a psychic to see how it would go
Right, you would look for an anal therapist on LinkedIn and be like, can I make an appointment?
100%.
I don't mind a little like licking outside the butthole.
Right.
Don't love insertion yet, but then again, I haven't been with a guy who like knows what he's doing with it.
I feel like you either have the butthole that likes stuff in it or you don't.
Like, I just think that you're born with that butthole.
I love that because, well, also like it's not like every gay guy has anal.
They either give or get it.
No, no, a lot of them don't catch at all.
yeah so i love that you said that and i think that's a bigger metaphor for life in general yeah
not everyone's meant to do certain things find what brings you joy that's right because i mean i've
had friends that are like no you just have to try it and i'm like no no you don't understand
like i don't want anything in my butt i'm really good at poop i'm happy that it brings you joy
i like it coming out not going in right like i just don't want to there's nothing better than like
a good morning poop and then you just feel like a skinny bitch until you take a bite the next day
I mean the next moment like the second I take a bite is something I'm bloated but like a good poop
is enough like action for my asshole yeah I mean like I could literally just feel like in the morning
like that like I'm like am I too thin is that is how it just happened like should I should I buy new
close since i've been on tic-tac this one girl i've had spending way too much time on tic-tac but
she had a really funny thing like how to be keep skinny during quarantine it's like make yourself
this coffee you put this creamer in it and then it's like and then shit yourself and that's it
yeah and honestly that is your prime it's not a honestly it's not a bad way so when i was uh one of
my many jobs when i was like 14 i worked in maybe 15 i worked in a bakery
And I was like, oh, I'm going to gain so much weight.
Yeah.
But guess what?
I didn't because we drank ice coffee all day long because that was available to us for free.
Uh-huh.
So you're Cokeheads.
You would just like off the wall.
Basically, this was my experience with cocaine.
Like that's the closest thing I'll ever get to being like hardcore into Coke.
I lost like 25 pounds.
That was like my hot girl summer.
Let me tell you say.
If you saw me at 15, I was.
I peaked at 15.
I peaked to like 16.
Were you like,
were you like,
were you like,
were you like?
Oh yeah,
I was,
I was reeling it in.
Yeah.
I love that for you.
I love how I,
I'm such a dude.
I'm like,
were you getting dick?
Like,
were you digging out?
When I was,
I think that I peaked at 16 officially.
And then around like,
24,
I like settled down.
I wasn't cheating on him.
Like I wasn't out there anymore.
And then I was like,
oh,
I guess this is it.
We're probably going to get engaged and we're probably going to have kids and got to buy a house and all this stuff.
And then he left me, I know you're going to be shocked, for his secretary.
Was he a doctor?
No, you think I worked in a doctor's office?
No, he left you for a secretary.
Yeah.
Oh, sorry.
He was my boss first.
That's how I met him.
Okay.
So there's a little, actually, so I'm doing this new segment called Hot Takes with Hannah where people ask for advice.
And this girl said she has a crush on her sixth-year-old boss.
She's like 24.
What was that power dynamic like?
Like, was it hot?
Okay.
To be honest with you, when we worked together, he was not nice to me at all.
He was not friendly to me.
He was not nice to me.
So I'm into it.
I'm into it.
I wasn't like his direct report.
He wasn't, I wasn't his direct report, but he was like above me.
I was one of the assistants.
Was he older?
A little bit older.
He was seven years older.
It wasn't like a crazy disgusting.
And what was the job?
Oh, I worked at Billboard magazine.
I worked in advertising.
So he left you for the secretary.
Did you have any warning or hint?
No, we were working together.
And then I got laid off.
The company got bought over and I got laid off while he was on vacation.
And then he reached out to me and was like, oh, my God, I'm so sorry.
Like, I had no clue that they were doing all these cuts while I was away.
He's like, we should hang out.
And I was like, well, you weren't even really nice to me when we worked together.
like you weren't even
it's not like we were at work friends
but then I was like yeah of course I'll go out with you
and then we started dating
and then we were together for like three years
and then all of a sudden
you know things were a little bit weird
and this is like you know a while ago
so this was before like you could really deep
like dive into social media
this was just like all I had was his Facebook wall
and all of a sudden it was like
men could be so shisty back then
yes
they really got away
with so much more
now they can't get away
with liking anything
we're like who's that
who's that
there was like
barely text messaging
at this time
oh my god
it's so impossible
I just there's something
about this
are they
is he still with the secretary
no so I called the secretary
so apparently
he told the secretary
when he left me for her
he called me
every single night
I thought we were still together
he was cheating on me
and so when I found out
when he actually
left me for her. I called her and I told her. I was like, listen, you know, he was cheating on me
with you. I'm just letting you know. Like, we were still together. And she's like, oh, he told me that
like, you guys were real good friends. And I'm like, oh yeah, we were real good friends. We were
real good friends. We lived together. That fucks up your trust. Yes. So then I was like,
listen, you do whatever you want. Like, I don't know you. You're a stranger. And then a few weeks
later she broke up with him so that was pretty fun well i kind of like how that sounds like a
mature thing that you did like you weren't calling her being like great you just were like what the
fuck happened no i mean because i didn't want him back at that point who wants him back i know but
you could have like punched her or something listen it's only about and i'm not always this mature
it's not oh it's not about the other girl unless she knows about you there's been other women that
I've suspected something
was going on and I let them know about me
people that I knew
like mutual friends of ours and then they
still ignored what I had to say
and then now I have to punch you in the face
I get that I get that there are rules to these things
there are boundaries right
going back to psychics
if you went to a psychic what would you want to know
about your future
I've been to a psychic
and the unfortunate part I went to
Raymond do you know Raymond he was in the city
no he was
He was in the West Village.
He was like the psychic to the stars.
And he's dead now.
So I don't know.
But I remember going to him and he was like, you're pregnant.
And I was like, I'm not.
He's like, you're pregnant.
I know it.
I was like, okay.
Well, I don't even know how that would happen right now.
I am 100% not pregnant.
And then he asked to see like pictures of like friends and family.
And like he was totally so off on everything.
And then I went, he was like supposed to be a medium.
And he didn't even know my dad was dead.
And I was like, all right.
you know what how good are you wow so i don't know were you being up front or were you nodding when
he was talking like i feel like i'd be too much of a pussy to be like you're wrong i would just be like
oh yeah no i just listened i just listen because i'm not going to correct you because then you're
going to like go on another path yeah yeah you're right you didn't want to so i was like no
let me see what he has to say and he was a fortune too so i mean i i want to believe though
i really want to believe uh if i can go to someone like legit
like in this what would I want to know um I don't know maybe you care more about like yeah
like should I quit comedy now or should I wait until it completely destroys me okay I hate to say this
but like every comedian I've talked to you I said they don't miss comedy stand up and then I think
I would not be surprised if after the quarantine no one goes back well you know what there's
definitely going to be less people for sure I mean you
remember a lot of people have gone back to where they came from uh no offense that's not a racist comment
but they have they've gone back to like you know ohio is like getting all of these new yorkers
all of a sudden they're like whoa whoa yeah they're like why these dirty people coming to our clean
ohio's about to close their borders but yeah no a lot of people are giving up their apartments
they're not going to be able to afford to come back and i don't know i don't know what's going to happen
comedy is emotionally abusive I personally thrive off emotional abuse but I can totally see why people
you you you always have to do it because someone else is getting stage time but now that we all don't
have stage time for the first time we don't have phomo and we're like oh it's actually kind of nice
and it kind of sucks but like people are basically having to face reality with like how they truly
feel about things and not just like abusing themselves like do you actually like comedy or
you just hate yourself or a little bit of both which is common
I think both for me.
I definitely hate myself, like, all the way.
But at the same time, I think that I'm not going as crazy as other comics because I do enjoy staying home.
And your podcasts are, like, such a big part of your career.
I've been working every single day.
Like, I cannot.
I mean, I'm not even saying I'm making money, but I'm not.
People are like, oh, I've organized all my closets.
And I'm like, oh, my God, how do you even have time?
Like, I'm trying to fit in time for things.
Also, I've been getting hit up.
up so much for people to come on my podcast from like anywhere because they're like you do it
virtual now and I'm like calm it down oh isn't that the worst and like I'm so bad at saying no to
people but like I'm very particular about people on my pod um and like and you should be and right but like it's
hard to say it's so hard to say no to people but like my little devils they love everyone I bring on
for a reason it's because I have like actual chemistry with them um also what's your dating life like
right now. I have a
boyfriend for almost
four years. Good for you.
Sure.
How'd you, how'd you
like chop him?
Meatballs.
I made a lot of meatball.
I want to date you.
I want to date you. Are you going to cook?
Listen, after this quarantine,
he's out, you're in.
I cook a lot.
I cook, I clean. I have nice
bed linens. I mean, you know,
It is what it is.
Actually, no, I just want to be adopted.
I'll be adopted by you.
That's fine.
I could be your mom.
What is your biggest insecurity in general?
Like physical, emotional.
What is your biggest insecurity that you fucking hate about yourself?
I feel like I'm not very feminine.
I feel like everything about me.
Yeah, I just feel like everything about me.
And I mean, obviously, like, my weight bothers me.
But I feel like that also adds to the fact that, like, that's another reason why I don't feel very feminine.
When did you read?
realized you didn't feel feminine?
Probably like college, because I feel like I did feel feminine in high school.
And then like after that, I was like, I don't know.
Like maybe because I never developed.
I think that's a big part of it.
Yeah, like I never got boobs.
I remember when I was little.
And I'd be like, when am I going to get these hooters?
Like, when is this going to happen?
People would tell me like, you know you have good boobs if you could put a pencil under your
boo but that's when you're a woman and it like never happened for me and then i realized like no
like that doesn't mean you're not yeah also like i just i mean where would the pencil go for me
like there's no there's no there's nothing to put it under i love that you said that because on summer
house which i highly recommend you start binging yes of course you could start season three season one two
or good too but i come in season three hi this girl who has like um fake tits and fake lips and
platinum hair told me that I wasn't feminine enough and would like make fun of me and like it
really made me reflect on like society clearly she think like society makes you think that you have
to sit in this box of like what being a feminine woman right you have to look like pamela anderson
exactly you have to be stick to who you are and like don't change your level of femininity
to attract you that's why I always had trouble with boob jobs like don't get tits to make guys want to
fuck you yeah like that's why i would get them to be totally honest with you i thought about it before
i mean total transparency that is the only reason i feel like it makes you look like overweight
if you yeah well that's the whole thing so i was like all right i have to lose i have to lose like
60 pounds and then i would like to get my boobs done if you get your boobs did and you gain
weight you look like you've gained 100 pounds i've seen it oh no i know and it's not always flat
like i've seen a lot of girls with very small boobs and get their boobs done and i'm like but you
had nice small boobs also you know many guys love small tits yeah like they were good boobs though
like I would only do it if you have bad yeah I feel like I have bad boobs so I think that what guys what I'm
saying is my tits are trash that's what's happening um I would like to lose 60 pounds and I would like
my boobs done no I have a lot of goals these are really good goals this is what I've been researching
like I think I need to invent the technology for this though I don't want an implant because I'm
scared of the implant because I've heard
so many horror stories about like bodies
rejecting implants and infections
and all this stuff and I've seen
people that I know have gone through
horror stories. Yeah, one of my
friends popped her boob once.
Yes, all of this stuff is scary
to me because then that's another surgery.
First of all, I want this done in my house.
I don't want to go to the hospital because I'm afraid of germs.
Okay. So it's in my house,
number one. Number
two, you're going to be using my belly fat
to make my boobs
Well that's what everyone is doing in LA
They're like take my belly fat
Put in my butt
Yeah you're so right
But then it's like
Do you know how painful that is
That you can't sit down
Like you can't sit down
After you get a Brazilian butt lift
I have a theory that girls in Hollywood
Are removing their bottom rib
That's why I think all their bodies
Like Marilyn Manson
Yeah
It's like a dick
Yeah
Like literally that's like all I know about Marilyn Manson
but I do think like when you see these weird body types
where they literally have size 14 waist
and these huge fucking asses
I really think they're removing ribs
and it's really fucked up and we need to stop it
well you know what a lot of them are doing
it's called um it's this thing called what's it called again
Photoshop oh yeah you're right I'm so stupid
I'm like a dude and like how I love looking at
first of all I will never knock an Instagram model
because I wish I could do it like I would do it all day long
They are graphic designers.
They are graphic designers.
I have friends who are so fucking good at it.
Don't you love when you see a big, big butt with a tiny little waist and they're standing
in front of like a fence.
Yeah, yeah, a gate.
And then you see all the bars on the gate are also bent and you're like, oh, oh, you
should have asked one person to look at this picture before you post, right?
All these girls need to have one friend.
Or they just have shitty friends.
And you're like, hey, how's this look?
And they're like, no, no, no, no.
You got to take the fence out.
And I guess I have angered towards it because I'm like,
do you know how many people looked at that and felt bad about themselves
because you're a fake-ass bitch?
Yeah.
It makes me angry that it causes other people pain
because you can't realistically accept yourself
and you have to, like, laudy yourself.
Because here I am going, I need to remove my ribs, I think.
I think ribs are in my house.
I do think that it's important to get in touch with their feminine energy
where feminine energy is not necessarily like being girly,
but it's more like, and it's not even like being a caretaker,
which it sounds like you have an amazing caretaking energy,
but it's like, I don't know, what do you think feminine energy means?
I think that what, like, I've always thought feminine energy means,
like, I guess just like that's instilled in me that I grew up with is like, you know,
you're dainty, you're girly, you keep your mouth shut, and like all this stuff,
and now I'm not, to me, I think somewhere, even though I know better,
and I am a feminist and I am modern and I am, you know, like pretty well read on these,
things but I feel like you know the things that are like that you grew up with like these values
that's like attractive to a man and I feel like I'm too much like I'm I've always felt like that
I've always felt like even when I was younger you cook and you clean I do I do but I feel like that's
such like an aggressive feminine energy like that's the aggressive you know like even when I do it
it's like very aggressive literally I'm trying to make you feel better I am not a caretaker
I'm emotionally a caretaker, but, like, I'm not about to, like, figure your shit out.
I don't cook.
I don't clean.
I'm trying to find a man who cooks, cleans.
And I think it's because my parents, my mom is very successful.
And if you look at the dynamic, my dad's very strong, tough, sporty.
My mom is, like, beautiful and giggles and, like, adorable.
But this bitch does not need him for a second.
She runs the household.
Yeah, I like that.
She has a boy.
He's literally a boy toy who makes her laugh.
she doesn't need him for money she doesn't need him for a home he's just there to like make her laugh
and they love each other's company so i'm literally doing my thing and just trying to find a boy toy that like
i can have a conversation right because the gender roles were a little bit switched in your house growing up
i truly believe and now i i just want you to know i take none of my own advice so don't think that
like i'm better i am not better than anyone i just read more self-help books than you do that's it
Like, I will take literally none of my own advice.
So I read a lot of things that you post and I'm like, yes.
Like I'll always, right now I'm shadow bans on Instagram so I can't like anything because God hates me.
Because you've spiraled.
I was a bad, bad girl.
And apparently there were too many actions taken in like five minutes and they were like, you're a robot.
So just know that when you post something, I am hearting it in my heart.
Oh, my God.
but not physically.
Thank you.
But I watch what you post and it's like as far as like the dating stuff,
if you have one,
if you do nothing else,
right,
once you see a red flag,
if you shut guys down as soon as you see a red flag,
you'll be fine.
Yeah.
I don't take my own advice though.
What?
I don't take my own advice.
Right.
But if you did that like,
you're so right.
I just posted a video though that was like,
it's the song like,
I could fall in love.
with you and it's going like guys who like are emotionally unavailable don't have a job
yeah got arrested before but are six four like i could convince myself that you're the one
if you're done it a lot like it's so easy to ignore red flags when you want attention but i think
what i've been doing is that that was so perfect but what i've been doing is now is i realize
I can't not want the attention
But what I do is I say
He's not boy for material
Fuck around with him for six months
And having a huge emotional wall up
No I mean that's a good way to lose weight
Because you're gonna hate yourself so much
That you are gonna stop eating
Like that is my ex
I was so skinny
Because I was being so emotionally abused
Oh my God I couldn't eat
And like it was fun in the beginning
And then I started to get worried
Because I was
About yourself
Yeah
You're like but no one's calling my family
Like that's how
Like I'll lose like 17 pounds
and then I'm like, why has no one called anyone?
Why is no one worried about me?
Why is no one saying that I have an eating disorder?
Hello?
And I'm like calling my friends.
I'm like, I have an eating disorder and they're like, yeah, okay, bye.
I'm like, I malnourished and they're like, you're, shut up.
You look fine.
You're fine.
You're fine.
I want to wrap up with a final game.
You're amazing.
I'm obsessed with you called The Seven Deadly Sins.
Seven Deadly Sins.
Are you ready?
I'm scared, but yes.
What are you greedy about?
I always want to get paid more.
Yeah, cash.
I think straight up cash.
What advice do you have to people for like asking for money
because it's my literal biggest fear?
Ask for it.
They could always just say no.
Like I was a big negotiator.
When I worked in media, I was a big negotiator of salaries.
I would go.
so high. I got paid
so much money at jobs
that I did not deserve to get paid.
I mean, I went into one media job
where I was probably
the most junior on the team
and I made the most money
and when they found out, like the other,
I don't know how they found out, but I guess someone in HR
leaked my salary to the rest of the team.
I thought there was going to be a riot.
I thought they were going to like stone me.
That makes me so happy for you. Were there guys on the team?
Yeah, it was mostly guys.
And they were so pissed off. But guess who
negotiated her salary guess who talked her way into everyone thinking that i was better than i was like
i will you know i'll talk my way into it and that's what it is it's like you have to act as if but that's
why like you're good at stand up because it's like you you have to convince the crowd to fucking like
you and like be on your side with shit and understand you and that's just social like awareness
i also saw something interesting you know cameo of course i'm on cameo hell yeah
book Tracy on cameo you guys but I'm on it with like the summer house cast and like you know you're
you're looking at like who how much each person is and like me and page we came in at the same time
we have like some more following we we always like kind of stayed like around this I'm like oh what's
page during I'll do what page does right and look and two guys who have been on the longest but have
like fewer followers than us have like are like 30 dollars more okay but do you see what I'm
saying though yeah like the thing is
not asking for it the market will always set the price okay so you need to aim the highest that you
possibly could and then if the market is not there you can lower it but always aim high like if you're
going for a job like you know like a regular like nine to five kind like when I would go to a media
job I would be like I will not take less than a hundred grand like that's just how it goes and
I mean listen what was I worth maybe 50 but guess what you'd get 80 well it's
sounds like you weren't also that emotionally invested with your ego because you were like I'm a
piece of shit let's see how much money I can get but if you like really think you're worth a certain
amount you get all emotional with it you get scared yeah like yeah every dude no one knows shit is what
I like no literally no one knows shit there I've been studies that said like doctors who just start
off are sometimes better than doctors who've been doing it for 20 years because they care more
and they're more refreshed on everything they need to know their money but those doctors are getting paid
weighed more like experience doesn't mean shit it's whoever like can sell themselves life is just
selling yourself to people so it's also annoying because so is like the beginning of dating it's like
you just have to fucking believe in your right but that's what i'm saying if you if you're like
taking red flags and just throwing them away it will actually increase your value yeah because
if you just accept the red flags then they keep pushing they keep walking right and then they're
going to be like oh this girl has dated 12 losers before me she's not worth that much i've never
had a guy not try to come back never not one time yeah yeah because once you know you're worth
then they see it you know like when you're with someone and like something terrible happens and you're
like oh we are never talking again like yeah that was bad like he wow and now he's in jail
anyway so with me always always always always call back they always try to i am very good at
breakups and that like it takes me a lot to want to break up with you but once I decide it and it
could be triggered by anything like you ordering something stupid at a restaurant or you like saying
something stupid over text message once it hits that point we're done you never hear from me again
it's a I don't know if it's a pride thing or whatever but it's like we're done that's good so I think
that is good but I'm like I'm just guilty of in the beginning like seeing red flags and
being like but I want to crush right you're decorating your apartment with red flags
100% it's my favorite color but like we're we're getting at least I'm
self-aware now where before I was like no he's perfect now I'm like Hannah you know he's not
perfect but you could have your little crush but I know what you're doing right but you're wasting
your months with someone that you know you don't want to be with while you could be meeting someone
that's amazing 100% I do say to my friends who are like should I wake up with him I'm like literally
every second you're with him is a second that you're like once a door closes
doors will open and please just fucking believe that everywhere and it doesn't matter what you
look like it doesn't matter who you are as long as you're a female this is what
Hell yes
Move the fuck on
Who are you envious of
Hmm
Probably like Joel McHale
Is that very specific?
That was specific
Is he the one who did the Tiger King
Documentary?
Yeah he did the Tiger King
I've been obsessed with him for years
The soup
My dream job is talk soup
Like that is my dream job
They just gave it to some comedy girl
I know
Jade Cata Prada
Yeah I know
God bless her
I guess I'm jealous of her
that um any kind like i want to show like you know obviously everyone wants to show right this is this is the
point but i wasn't i love chelsea handler i was just going to say chelsea handler's show was so groundbreaking
i've been lucky enough to work with so many comics that were on her writing team and like just
everything about chelsea's show was just like this is this is how i want my life to be it's funny i don't
even remember a joke that was said but i remember her energy with the other comics and seeing a
woman treat these people like shit sometimes and it was such a lot a thin line of like hilarious
and bitchy that I was like this is what I want to do yeah I always I mean listen I know that she was
very hard um you know to work with sometimes and you know she but like I I am hard to work with
sometimes well that's the thing when you're when you're deal with I mean we've heard like Ellen degenerous
like monster stories but like at some point first of all what male host is that easy to work
with ever sure no one's going around being like oh he's the sweetest and then chelsea like you have to
set boundaries and like the second a woman isn't caring or like caretaking or like going over the moon
for people they're like she's tough to work with she was probably no but like i've met her before
i've actually played tennis with her accidentally and like that's so funny and she was the sweetest
kindest funniest person so it's like i don't know in your work life get shit done whatever she's
doing was working because y'all were getting paid for sure for sure her brother roy is like
one of my very closest friends and how'd you meet him uh roy i just met through comedy and you know
he would come stay with me when he was in new york he's actually back he was on some kind of island
in a country that i can't pronounce yeah uh because he's a chef i don't know if you remember his segments
on the show yes to do the cooking segments yeah so i i've met a lot of people through him
and through the show and stuff and i mean they all still you know like that's how many people
have gotten their start from being on chelsea oh my god i've opened for chris frangola who's
was hilarious i met chris frangola in montauk once hammered and i went up to him and i go i love
just the hello show and he was like he was like let's talk about it and he this before i even was
close to comedy when we're he's in montauk a lot his family has a house over there oh it's and actually
chelsea was dating um andre bellage the guy who said i was in shelter island teaching tennis lessons
and she just showed up at a lesson because her friend was getting lessons for me it was
fucking wild and I had to pretend I didn't read all their books but like it was good of course but this is
what I'm saying like this these are the people that like Joe Coy fortune fiendster I love fortune special
was amazing did you watch it I watched the beginning of it I'd like I like love her I love her to death
who else was on it Heather McDonald's Heather McDonald's Whitney Cummings yeah Natasha
Legerro um Josh Wolfe yep Brad uh Wallick yeah what's Brad up to I haven't seen him in a minute
He actually was a producer on Lights Out with David Spade.
Cool.
Very cool.
And it was fun to see Lights Out with David Spade come back, even though I think they got canceled,
but it was a lot of the old Chelsea crew because the writers were Chelsea's writers.
And I was like, yes, my people are back.
Chelsea's gone on a different journey now.
But like, she's still affecting and changing cultures and doing fucking shit up the way
she knows how in a positive way um what are you glutness about i would say fine home furnishings
wait okay this is interesting because you are so domesticated in a way where do you shop and how do
i make my apartment look good oh my god i can't wait until quarantine is over so i could i could
design your entire apartment i used to do like freelance uh apartment design and i used to specialize
in small spaces well i have i i have a studio in queens
let me tell you something i had a studio apartment for so long it was my favorite place in the
world it was 350 square feet it was one room besides the bathroom
like i was sitting in bed meatballs were cooking on the stove like we were in the same room
everything was fine and i really like literally designed it to be like my favorite place in the
world i like to do a good bargain shop yeah i i hate spending too much money on something
but then there are certain things
that you want to spend enough money
like I'm really big into solid wood furniture
yes
I'm really big into pieces
that you will keep forever
IKEA has like a few things
that are not the worst
but like I'm not into
if you're spending $200 on a dresser
that's going to last you two years
you have to spend another $200
like it adds up
and then it's like you could have just bought
an $800 dresser
and you could have had it for the rest of your life
where would you get it
Um, I like to look on Craigslist.
I like to look on Facebook marketplace.
I love a good secondhand solid.
You can't find a ton of solid wood furniture these days in these big box stores.
Yeah.
Everything is like put together.
Even like, you know, Bob's furniture, like it's not solid wood.
Nothing's solid wood anymore.
I love a good thrift piece.
I love going to housing works and finding something.
Yeah, I love like curating a bunch of different experiences and like niche things.
Like I love, um,
when people have yard sales or when they have vintage shit.
Yes, I like finishing furniture.
I like mixing metals.
I like having, you know, I have gold.
I have copper.
I have silver.
I like doing all of that.
I don't like to follow the rules per se.
I love that.
And it's true.
I didn't realize.
Like I used to just live in an apartment.
It was like a hospital room.
I was like, I'm not going to live it forever.
But curating your space.
And I'm like a cat.
Like I don't want to live in a mansion one day.
Like I don't need extra space gives me anxiety.
Like I want.
just like my coziness
of a home. Yes. So that's like
mature of you to like be in touch with
your home space. Yeah.
My home space is my place like my
it's so funny because
you know Tim Dylan right?
Yes. So Tim
always used to say like you know he used to ask me what my
dreams were and I'd be like
my dream is that I marry
a retired garbage man with grown
children so I don't have to
raise his children
and you know we could live off of his pension
and we have like a three bedroom two bathroom with a small yard with a pool that's above ground
he's like even your wildest fantasies are like mediocre well tim knows like the best of the best
he knows yeah i mean we used to go to the hamptons together many many uh weekends you guys need to come
to the hamptons for summer house one of our parties oh my god that see that i think i'd be
very terrified of i mean it's dirty it's right you'd contract syphilis immediately
I would be very nervous.
The hot tub is where I thrive, and it is so dirty.
But it's mostly my dirt.
So I'm kind of like, welcome.
So you are the dirt.
I would come maybe like eight or nine in the morning to help set up,
and then like as people started coming, I'd be like, okay, bye.
Yeah, then you dip out.
Right.
Well, that was a fun experience.
When was the last time you experienced extreme wrath or anger?
I mean, how do I choose?
Do you remember when you were?
telling me on the Only in New York podcast how you were like having a fight with Amazon
because you were trying to return a different pot than they gave you. Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean I think
oh okay this is another Amazon story. Real real like you see red like you want everyone to die
wrath. Yeah. Okay so I made an Amazon fresh order because I've been trying to order my
grocery so I don't have to go out and it was a big order and I was going to be set for like two
weeks and you know how hard it is to get a spot in delivery.
possible almost impossible right so i was up at all hours of the night i found this spot i got it
and then i get an email the night before the delivery and it says i'm sorry you've canceled your order
and i was like i've canceled my order so i started talking to an amazon rep on on chat
and i was like hey it says that i canceled my order i didn't cancel my order he's like well you must
have canceled your order and i'm like no i did it i didn't cancel my order i was like this is an
emergency he goes if this is an emergency please call 9-1-1 and i was like he a dick to you yes so then i said to him
i said um you know this is really unfair i don't understand what's going on i can't get another slot
and he goes i suggest you take a nap and then try again i go take a nap he goes yes take a nap or take
a sleep what and then he's like if you're still having problems please call 911
Dude, he must be getting, you know what happened?
They probably fucked up.
They canceled a bunch of orders and they're getting like reamed out by a bunch of people.
And they're mad because it wasn't obviously him that did it.
And he has to deal with the wrath.
Right.
So, but he wasn't even giving me a straight answer.
So then the next day I get an email saying, I'm sorry, we canceled your order.
Here's a $20 credit.
But it's like, I don't want a $20 credit.
I wanted my $1,000 worth of grocery.
So I would never have to leave the house ever again.
Yep.
Wow.
Well, yeah, he was thinking a take about it and made it so much worse.
take a nap he told me to take a nap
$20
fucking take a sleep
take a sleep
I'll take you take a sleep after I punch you in the face
you never wake up that's right
call 911 could you imagine
911 what's your emergency
my Amazon fresh order got canceled
and I think I'm going to puke
uh huh and I
had Roma tomatoes in that order
and I don't know if you know but I'm Italian
that is so funny
yeah that was definitely the man of
they've been in a long time. Oh my god. Okay um when was last time you were a sloth and like didn't
had a lazy day? Okay so on uh Easter I uh was very upset so I woke up and I took a hydroxazine
okay hydroxazine. Do you know what this is? What is that like hydrocodone? No it's it's like
it's almost like a antihistamine. Okay and I don't like to take anything that's addictive so my
doctor prescribed these for me because I'm scared of everything. So it's like it's like a very so I have a 10
milligram dose of hydroxazine which is like nothing. I think that you could give a rabbit this dose.
Yeah like 10 milligrams is nothing. Right. Like mostly people take like 40 milligrams. So I took 10
milligrams and then I just slept all day long. Like I can't hand like this is like this is why I can't
drink too. Like I would have a half of a course light and people were like hey can someone call like her
guardian or something and get her out of here. I have a question for you because I feel like
we're similar in this we're both fun and loud right do you agree how do you deal with when you're
fun and loud and you don't do cocaine and you don't like to drink and people get disappointed when
they want you to be the party like does that happen to you well i used to work in a restaurant i'll tell
you this yeah and i remember i used to work a lot of lunch shifts and i had a lot of fun at this
restaurant that i worked it was one of my favorite jobs in the whole world which restaurant
all of my friends work it was famous daves it was a barbecue restaurant in long island and
And I had so much fun.
It was just like, you know when you have like the perfect staff?
Yes.
The chemistry is right.
Yeah.
Yes.
It was just so much fun.
And I used to come in in the morning to like set up lunch shift.
And I was like always like into it.
Like I would have so I just, I just loved it.
And I remember my manager called me into the office.
This was, I was there for like maybe five months.
And he called me in and he was like, listen, whatever you do in the morning before you get here.
He's like, is none of my business.
he's like but you can't be bringing this into the restaurant and I was like I don't know what I don't know what that means and he's like okay I'm gonna say it again he's like look at me he goes whatever you do outside of work is fine it's not my business he's like but you can't do it at work and I was like oh my god you think I do cocaine I'm like I am okay like no no no I don't even do I'm sober I've been sober for like 12 years like I'm like I'm like I'm sober for like 12 years like I'm
I'm all the way sober.
So then when I quit the job to get an office job and we had like, you know, we used to go out
after work and like drink and hang out.
I mean, I didn't drink, but I hung out.
And one of my other managers called me outside and was like, hey, can you get a bag?
And I was like, a bag of what?
And I was like, oh, you guys still think I do Coke?
I'm like, no.
That is so funny because people always think I'm drunk or high because I eat a lot and I
giggle a lot and I'm crazy like I'll be on giggly squad at night with page and people are like I love
when they drink and I'm like later not drunk but I like after my comedy shows people come up to me and be
like so excited they're like hey come out with us we got you we have cocaine and I have to look
them the eye and disappoint them of this image they've created of me and go I want to go to bed
and they're like yeah what and I like I hate drink I'm a talent I want to eat I don't care for
alcohol but like I don't want to go full sober just because like I feel like it's extreme to be like sure
I mean listen if you don't have a problem and it doesn't I don't have a problem but part of me thinks like if I just said I'm
sober people would leave me alone more because if I'm just like I don't want to people are like well you just
tell them you're pregnant oh my god you nailed it you're right yeah just always say I'm pregnant
I used to say like I could be pregnant question mark like you never really know yeah you can't risk
when do you really know I mean you were told by a psychic you were pregnant and you're
Right. You're probably the Virgin Mary at this point.
Exactly.
This is the hard one.
When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something?
I think that I threw a tantrum recently.
It wasn't, yeah, it was like probably like one of the last shows that I did.
I did Wendy Starling and Christina Hutchinson show Glammer Puss.
Yeah, I've done that before too.
It's so fun.
What a great show, right?
So I was like, oh, I'm going to get this tape.
I have to get this tape.
I had to submit for something.
And I have to get this tape.
and I have to do these jokes
and I have to get this tape
it's going to be amazing
so I set up
I brought my iPad
I mean I went big
I brought my iPad
on a freaking
tripod
and it was the tallest
tripod in the land
I basically brought
a camera crew
with it to get this tape
and I did okay
but like
it wasn't that feeling
of like oh I crushed
yeah
like I was like
all right well that wasn't the worst
like I wouldn't not get rebooked
like no one's going to say
I bombed but it wasn't it wasn't the tape I wanted yeah and I think like I lost my mind after that
show and I was like I need this tape I need this tape you don't understand I need this tape and then
I think that the the pandemic coming was really like for me because then everything got canceled
there's no more TV production so that the shows are not getting produced um nothing's happening
so I'm like thank you God that was for me
right that's because i got upset about that tape also i feel like comics get like really mad when
they just do okay yeah but i usually don't care yeah it's just you were obsessed with that tape
and it'll it probably psyched you out how much you it sucks but like the way you do well is not
caring but you you you want to do well to care too much so it's this it's this bad thing also i have
this bad habit of like i will like two jokes won't hit and i'll be like i bombed and people like
that's not bombing and i'm like
No, like those jokes, I bombed.
And they're like, no, you'll know when you bomb.
But I literally say my bomb.
Also, like, at the end of the day, if they're paying you the money, you didn't bomb.
True.
Like, I'm literally out of control where I'll be so hard on myself.
They're, like, two jokes, one hit, and I'll say I bombed.
So it's like, it's just, it's all perspective.
And yeah, the key is with tennis, I care too much.
But I'm like, but if you don't care, then you suck.
So it's really this, like, thin line of amount that you.
And I think what I realize is care about the experience, like, enjoying the experience.
but don't care about the result, if that makes sense.
Like, care about, like, that the jokes you, like, really are in the moment with them
and you're listening to the audience and you're, like, you're feeling yourself.
I had people, I had people reach out to me after that show.
And they were like, hey, I saw you on Wendy's show.
You were amazing.
I saw you on Christina's show.
And I was like, no, I wasn't amazing.
Dude, I literally said I bombed and have DMs going, like, oh, my God.
Yeah.
We thought you were the funniest.
And I'm like, then I'm like, what reality is, what is this?
What am I living in right now?
I'm so mean.
Or you think like you tape a really shitty podcast and you're like, should I even put this out?
This is garbage.
And then you put it out and people are like, oh my God, I'm obsessed with this episode.
Okay, this was my biggest advice.
When I first started, like, you know when you first start?
You're just trying really hard, like on podcast to be really funny all the time.
And you're just always like, how to make this line the funniest.
Then, like, one day I just didn't try.
And my, I was doing this radio show and that's how I got like kind of my chops.
And the co-host was like, you were amazing today.
And I was like, I literally didn't try to be funny at all.
And that's when I realized, like...
Yeah, you have to come naturally.
Yeah, when you stop trying to be funny and you're yourself,
that's what I was talking to Paige who isn't in comedy
is doing giggly scott with me at night.
And she was like, I feel pressure.
We have to be funny every night.
I go, I'm telling you when you don't try to be funny.
When people enjoy you, they do because I know,
because my co-host, Noel, is my best friend.
She's not a comic.
And our conversations are so funny.
And she's like, yeah, but I'm not a comic.
And I'm like, you don't have to be a comic.
It's the chemistry.
You are so funny.
Yes.
Everyone is fucking funny in New York
When I was growing up
I was not like I'm the funny one
We'd all shit on each other
Like my dad's the funniest person I ever met
Like I'm just
I'm just trying to exist within
Because New York we're all fucking stressed
We're all
We're all neurotic
We're all immigrants
We're all immigrants who are fucking anxious
Because we're all traumatic genetics
Right
We're just neurotic
We're neurotic people
And I think that that is
people people do like even my only new york podcast like people just are like oh your accent is funny
and i'm like well first of all i don't have an accent i'm a classically trained um actress but
i'm a classically straight 90 day podcast host you bitch i don't know if you know but my ex-boy
went to tish so thank you i don't write the subway i'm a classy classy bitch exactly
when was the last time you lusted over someone
Oh God
Like do you have a celebrity crush
Oh this is so embarrassing
Tell me
I have two
I have two
One of them I feel like is more obtainable than the other
Number one
Alec Baldwin
Oh my God
Have you met him in a person before?
Yes I have
So I had lunch with Alec Baldwin
And I'm going to explain that
It's not what it sounds like
So I bought an apartment
And my mom
took me out to celebrate she took me out to lunch so we went to uh olives the w hotel yes okay so we go
there and there's banquette seating which means that there's a chair on one side a bench on the
other side i sit on the bench side alec Baldwin and someone sit at the next table so we're sharing a bench
he's sitting next to me and we're sat like basically at the same time and i look at my mother with
wide eyes and she is
mouthing to me don't you dare don't you dare
he's going to hit you because you remember
Alec has you know some history of being a little
bit aggressive but you do also so
right so I'm like we could punch each other in the
but you see at the time Alec didn't know that I was famous
so it was hard for him yeah I understand that would have been
embarrassing for him tonight I didn't say hello to him
but he was wearing um it was winter very cold out
and he was wearing a white like a heens team
shirt and a burberry scarf and he looked so hot what was he like were you listening in i don't know
i just i couldn't even like really eat like i i went like numb that's like when you have to tell the
person with you like i need to listen to everything happening on the table next to me mom so like
you can talk at me but it's not happening like you ever like gets so invested in someone else's
conversation he was having a business meeting with some guy and i'm just like trying to listen
and i'm like this restaurant is too loud we can't
can't meet here anymore but also i'm proud of you being a classic new yorker of like not even
saying one thing to the celebrity sitting next to you no and i used to i used to catch him sometimes
in the hamps i never said anything yeah um he has nice eyes god i love him so much but i couldn't
be the hilarious that you know what i mean like i couldn't be that for him you'd have to like do yoga
all the time well first of all she's popped out like seven kids for him that look exactly the same
it has affected her body in no way nope uh i can't be that for him you
You know, so it's like, I'm glad that they found each other.
I'm glad that she...
What do you like about him?
I just love his face.
I just, I love, I've loved him.
This is so creepy.
I've loved him since Beetlejuice.
Like, do you know what your beetle juice was?
That was like, what, 1989?
Do you like older guys?
Yeah, I think I do.
Look at you.
Who's your other one?
This is a little bit more embarrassing.
Okay.
A little bit less, you know, dreamy.
Yeah.
I don't even know if I'm,
I should tell you.
But no one's going to listen to this, right?
No.
Okay, cool.
I'm probably going to delete it.
Joey Fetone.
Oh my God.
Who we have a very close mutual friend.
We have a few mutual friends.
And it's just been very hard for me.
Wait.
Because I have to pretend that I'm a normal person.
Wait.
I'm obsessed, obsessed with this.
So when NSYNC was a thing, he was the one that you gravitated towards.
I didn't care.
Listen, Insink was cool.
I was a regular amount of fan of Insync.
You know what I mean?
Like, it was cool.
But, you know, everyone was like, Justin Timberlake, Justin Timberlake.
But I had a different relationship with Joey.
Like, I thought that we were going to be together.
He was the relatable one.
You could tell, like, he was probably the most fun to get a beer with.
Also, I have a theory, like, not that you look like him,
but you both have, like, nice eyebrows and, like, puppy dog eyes.
And I feel like you might in his eyes see, like, yourself because, like, we're all kind of...
Yeah.
I think I do because I could totally see this because I'm obsessed with you too thank you can we be together he's like a chubby Italian I'm a chubby Italian like I thought I was like I'm definitely going to run into him at a pizzeria at some point in our lives like we are going to cross pants I was always J.C girl like I was like everyone like Justin I was like J.C is hotter and he's better at singing and he doesn't get the respected deserves oh I don't know I mean at least it wasn't Chris Kurt Patrick that you just said that's no I would never I like
see all right i mean again i need a little bit more of a man like a manly man joey fatone just
seems like the regular guy that fell into a boy band yes he looks like someone pulled him off the street
was like can you just just mouth and he was like yeah whatever that's fine he he looks like
hosting and stuff well he said now he has the hosting he he used to uh he used to do the food
network stuff yes and he's just i don't know he he i was following his marriage for a
I was like, this is never going to last.
And they ended up getting divorced, which, I mean, I don't want to say it was my fault, but, you know, I did put that energy out.
And now I think he has a girlfriend and I'm like, I don't know.
That's selfish of him.
I do think I need to start looking at some of these, like, more niche former celebrities and try to see if I could get them on my podcast.
Because, like, he's someone I love on my podcast.
100%. All you have to do is ask.
That is something that I have learned about just being in entertainment, being in anything like,
it's not that hard
first of all everyone's home right now
yeah no one's new shit
Joey Faton's not busy
Joey Faton doesn't have shit to do
just throwing it out there
I have reached out to celebrities
in the past
in my life
I also
I would watch a movie
this is like something crazy about me
I would watch a movie
and if it was like a small enough production
if I liked someone in the movie
I would just like email them
I would just like research enough
there was this one guy that I liked
he was in an indie film
I emailed the producer
and he set us up
and we started dating.
What?
Yeah.
I was very young.
I told him that I was 26 and I was 18.
I love how
you think outside the box
and you're driven
and you don't give a fuck
what people think.
Yeah.
I mean, I was 18.
He was like,
I would never date a young girl.
I was like, well,
that's a good thing that I'm 26 then.
That's a good thing.
I'm 72.
Thank God.
Yeah.
And then we ran into each other
years later.
and he asked me he was doing something for HBO
and I was like by the HBO building
and he was like
how old are you now? I haven't seen you in forever and I was like
oh my God I'm 25 and he's like that's so weird
because you were 26 when we dated 10 years ago
and I was like yeah I was like isn't that crazy
how's his career going
he's still he's doing it
good for him he's still doing it yeah so I want to wrap this up
with one final question I asked all my guests
which is what do you
do to cope with your hell like what would you tell people who are going through hell right now
on how to cope i do so many things to cope with my hell um i think therapy twice a week is
definitely helpful um you could swim in the bathtub that's what i do for most of my day just like
hours and hours and hours just sitting in the bathtub looking at instagram do you have any like
um certain like aromatherapies or candles when you do it or is it just straight bath
I switch out my bubble baths.
I really do enjoy.
I do the Target brand because I'm cheap, but the coconut
Epsons salt.
Oh yeah, I heard that's nice.
Yeah, I take a little swim with that.
I clean my house obsessively.
You know, just make sure.
You know, when I worked in the restaurant, they used to say,
if you can lean, you could clean,
meaning like you should never not be busy.
And I think that that's how I live my life.
I love that.
And it makes you not only clean.
on with your skin but also in your household and we hope that everyone's staying safe and healthy
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Only in New York with Andrea Allen and Hemda. I also have 90 day fiance trash talk and teen
mom trash talk. So if you guys watch any kind of garbage, you know, I'm your girl. We didn't even
touch on reality TV, which is hilarious, but you're, oh my God. Can we just go for a few more
hours? Yeah, you yourself are actually way more interesting. Thank you so much. Yeah, I love you so
much. Thank you for coming to hell. And I'll talk to you guys later. Bye.