Berner Phone - We Don’t Deserve Dogs: Shitting Yourself & Psychotic Breaks

Episode Date: May 13, 2020

Dr. Lisa Lippman and comedian Richie Redding go to hell together! They discuss the time Richie shat himself on a date, sister wives, the difference between cat and dog people, Kevin Hart cheating, goi...ng on tour with Katt Williams, how they started dating, how Lisa juggles all her businesses, Richie’s body image issues, and becoming sober. GET BEACH BODY FOR FREE BY TEXTING HANNAH TO 303030 Download Best Fiends FREE on the Apple App Store or Google Play. Listeners get 10% off your first month at betterhelp.com/BERNING --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In like extreme moments where like things are heightened and angry, I have this thing that it's like, I know this is going to be funny. You know, that it's like, I just kind of like... Do you laugh during sex? Huh? What? Welcome to Burning Hell. in the dark depths of the scariest place in the world, also known as Hell.
Starting point is 00:00:33 You're burning with me, Hannah Burner. And today, we're having a party because there's three of us in the room. We have that we don't deserve dogs, dynamite crew. It's one of my favorite podcasts. We have Dr. Lisa Lipman and Richie Redding. Welcome to Hell.
Starting point is 00:00:54 Yes. Thank you. It's hot in here. And in hell and Lisa's here. So this is perfect. This is just how I've envisioned it. And it begins. I love the sarcastic laugh.
Starting point is 00:01:04 This is going to be fun. You guys are actually the second couple I've ever had. Oh, yeah. I had marriage and martini's here. Who? They're like, they do a podcast where all their fights they just have on the mic. Oh, okay. And I feel like you guys do too, but you don't do it on purpose.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Yeah. Like he just burped and I'm nauseated. So. Richard just burped and she was like, oh, I hate all his bodily functions. Like breathing, blinking. Yeah. Meanwhile, somebody forgot to use the matches today. Oh, we're just throwing doctor under the bus.
Starting point is 00:01:36 I mean, if we're bitching about a little burpee. I will say, let me just pivot for a second. Pooping matches are really a thing. They're really incredible. They do save relationships. Yeah, they save. So he made matches that say pooping matches on the front and Tiffany Blue. And on the back it says save the relationship.
Starting point is 00:01:53 And I think they really will. But also, like, once you do the match, it's an immediate, yeah, I ship myself. Not myself. It's better, though, than, I mean, shit. You're like, I've shot myself and it's different, okay? I have. On a date. Really?
Starting point is 00:02:10 What did you order? You just got really nervous? No. You laughed too hard? I kind of just had rotten stomach at that point from excessive drinking and maybe some cocaine involved. Okay. And, yeah, I thought I could sneak out a little guy, you know, a little pressure release. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:27 I was in line. There was two girls in front of me. And I was not wearing underwear at the time. Like for years, I just wasn't wearing underwear. With jeans? Are your balls okay? Thank God I had jeans on because I was also in a big, I was like at Penn. So it was a big khaki and corduroy guy.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Thank God for the jeans. Oh, yeah, khakis. But you have to, here's the move. You got to take the socks off and you wipe up the poop with the socks. I'm going to vomit. And, yeah, one dry sock, one wet sock. Are you regretting having us on? I wish you guys could see my face right now.
Starting point is 00:03:07 How did the date end? You're like, we banged. No, no, no, no. I got no oral, for sure. There is no mouth stuff, no hand stuff. But, like, she didn't give, she didn't, like, let me know that she knew. I think I handled it as well as possible. This podcast is really just an advertisement.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Does anybody want a boyfriend? Does anybody? What happened to all this sister wife talk? You've been putting it out there. I don't think Hannah was on when we had you on our, when we had you on, we don't deserve dogs. Now it's been, I've been looking for a sister wife. And so I don't know if you know that show. I don't know if you want to create a new show.
Starting point is 00:03:46 I don't know if Bravo will let you. But like if you watch sister wives, it really actually makes a lot of sense. I watched the polygamy Netflix documentary with like the guy in the mountains. And he had three different wives who had different houses. all next to each other and he'd like spend right a different night at each one's place yeah but like they all take care of each other's kids they all like wash each other's dishes oh for sure for sure for sure and everyone knows that yeah you can't help it everyone has a favorite yeah oh for sure a favorite kid a favorite wife i'm just think it makes more sense than like it used to me i just love
Starting point is 00:04:17 when they talk shit about the husband together there's like oh he was late again he was late to my date on tuesday too but i think the thing is though if you're if we're looking for one sister wife, to get the benefits of it, you really need two sister wives. Okay, it's not like it's selfish. Do you want to show your mouth? Oh, for sure. Show your mouth. Because the whole thing is that you get to have somebody to hang out with while the other wife
Starting point is 00:04:38 is out banging the husband. Do you think three is the magic number because two is just straight up jealousy? And three are like, can you handle three dogs? Neither. He can handle neither. Can you handle Lisa? I mean, barely. Well, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It's like, if things are going great, if they were actually, if they were actually harmonious. I think there's more problems with somehow managing to get these three women to get along way more than actually getting along with them. And maybe that helps the relationship because you're not focusing on your real issues. You're focusing on their issues. Every time you get together, you're just talking shit about the other one. This one, right?
Starting point is 00:05:14 That sounds like reality TV, to be honest. You just rotate friends and you're like, Jennifer's the fucking worst. Hi, Jennifer. Isn't Sarah so fucking enough? Right. Hi, Sarah. I fucking hate Stephanie because she's a cunt. And then you're like, Stephanie, oh, shoot, wrong girl.
Starting point is 00:05:28 And then, I love your impression of reality TV. That's amazing. And every, uh... To do impressions when I am it. Yeah. Every polygamous relationship should have a confessional booth. Then, like, somehow you can see the other confessionals to get mad at the other ones. That bitch!
Starting point is 00:05:45 Are you serious that I was confiding in you? Oh, my God. Well, you guys, if you're listening, you have to go to we don't deserve dogs. it's such an amazing podcast. Do you want to explain? I want to explain what an angel you are, first of all. You are fucking, people who don't know you in real life, I need to, I don't know if this is going to ruin your help or hinder your Bravo image.
Starting point is 00:06:07 But you are, yeah, that's funny because it's burning in hell. But this, you are a fucking angel. Nobody has ever been on our podcast and reposted without me asking, without me even sending you the link. Like I didn't even know. I just like woke up, went, like, had a dream and you were like posting for us. You were just doing it. I give episodes respect where they deserve.
Starting point is 00:06:27 It's a good episode. And I got to talk about butter. Let's be honest. Butter's everything. All I care about in this world is everything. What's worse than when you like post something that you did with somebody, you loved it, and they just give it a like, dead to me. You're fucking dead. You know many relationships and comedic partnerships have been ruined?
Starting point is 00:06:45 Or like they forget the swipe up and you're like, you know what? You might as well just shout on my face. Just shit directly on my face. What is this? But just the heart? Ugh, beat it. Yeah, I feel like it's, whenever we describe our podcast, it's like, I'm always like, it's way funnier than it sounds, that it's comics and influencers talking about the pets,
Starting point is 00:07:07 the pets they have and the pets they grew up with. They get real advice from Lisa, and I make it weird. Oh, I'm a veterinarian. Yes, and she's a dog lover. Sometimes Richie also forgets to tell people that who he invites on the podcast, and then it's a surprise. And then you're giving them, like, they go on their intestines. And you're like, you're fucking weird. One time.
Starting point is 00:07:27 He was the weird one. In like three years of doing this shit, one person. Because Richie, that's disrespectful. God. But it's very fun. You guys play tons of games. Richie does voices. Lisa gives like real actual information.
Starting point is 00:07:41 And what I read in the summary, too, that was fun, was you get to learn about people's personalities through their pets. Yeah. I feel like it's the least narcissistic interview. Which is insane for a comic to do. Yeah. All we want to do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:53 Or a celebrity. It's really how you get to, you know, if you ask them to go into their house and see their shit, they're like, fuck you. But if you ask them to talk about their pet, they're like, yeah. So what kind of things do you learn when people talk about their pet? Like, what kind of different pet people are there or their choice of pet or, like, looking like their pet? I mean, you learn a lot about childhood trauma. Did you not have a cat that pissed on the hardwood floors and had to go?
Starting point is 00:08:17 That is exactly what happened to Cleo and Figaro. Cleo and Figaro, Cleo, we had Brownstone in Brooklyn with gorgeous, you know, hardwood floors. Cleo started peeing and they were leaving marks. One day, I remember my brother and I went downstairs and my dad said, Cleo and Figaro went on vacation.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Oh, not to the farm? Vacation. Is it in the Bronx? They go on vacation? Everywhere else, they go to the farm. They went on vacation. I guess they're yachting somewhere. And then we never heard from them again.
Starting point is 00:08:50 they're on the next season of below the deck Kate Chastain is yelling at them in a cabin right now to finish the laundry but yeah that's always happened yeah you and it's like in a movie when like a human dies you're like yeah fuck that guy but when an animal dies you're like this is wrong so Marley and me
Starting point is 00:09:10 fuck that movie I is so angry like first of all movies should have a happy ending second of all the vet was a dick in that movie and it's just it was terrible Who wants to watch that? Like, I do that for a living, and that was fucking terrible. Like, no. I've been talking about how cats need better PR.
Starting point is 00:09:28 Like, how dogs have Marley and me, which is an iconic movie that was really sad. They have a puppy bowl. They have air bud. That dog played basketball. Ain't no rule that says dog can't play basketball. And cats have... Don't fuck with cats. Cats, which is decently good, but very dark.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Very traumatic. Cats have the cat movie. Okay. That lost millions of dollars in the box office. Yeah. And one reviewer wrote something like, this movie ruined my life. So cats and get together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:00 But you like cats and dogs. Of course. I love cats. How would you differentiate? Like, why do you think people are cat versus dog people? It's really weird. I mean, I really think the people who are obsessed with cats are like so obsessed with cats. But it is proven that they actually spend less money on cats than they do on dogs.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And I, we don't know why. I mean, I think because cats are so good at high. things and cats are so good at having their feelings and maybe the people have them are like a little bit more independent and like not as good as like showing their feelings for them and promoting them and stuff but I mean cats do roll the internet so it is always flooring yeah it's funny because I have legitimate like guys who won't date me because they find out I'm a cat lady which is it I'm like favor to you I feel like cat lady implies multiple cats well I hope I can get multiple cats one day I have a studio right now. Does Butter love other cats? Do you know how you ever
Starting point is 00:10:49 tried? I don't know yet. And it's interesting because I googled the other day because Butter has this thing. I love how this has just become an extension of we don't deserve your own. Pretty much. That's all I know how to talk about. I don't really understand the world otherwise. I love talking about butter. Butter has this thing where in Summer House when I would leave for the weekend I'd come back and she'd find the toilet paper and she would just tear it apart in like the perfect little white pieces. She'd be so proud of herself and I'm like this is bad. so I started putting it in the cabinet which of course that little genius
Starting point is 00:11:19 realized it was in the cabinet learned how to open the cabinet because at first I was like am I forgetting to close the cabinet door and I assume I'm dumb that I'm like no she's a little freaking evil genius so she does this
Starting point is 00:11:32 and then I googled in someone's like your cat might be bored and your cat needs a friend and I was like buttery bored and I bought her all these toys and I'm like we're having fun we're having fun and she's just lying there like licking her paw like you're stupid
Starting point is 00:11:45 And then went right back for the toilet paper Yeah, for sure It's like you can buy your kid the most extensive toy They're still going to play with the box She's gonna figure out what she wants She's smart Yeah Chloe recently took a whole goddamn rotissory chicken
Starting point is 00:11:59 Off of the counter It was in the bag We came back and it was face up Like the thing off Like the lid off of it Only ate the white meat She was snobbish about it What?
Starting point is 00:12:12 And I was very proud of herself Yeah, she was very proud of herself Yeah, she was very bad. Did you guys yell at her? I mean, Lisa, beat the fuck out of her, but she never raised her voice. To her credit. I mean, within an inch of her life, but. Dogs give me a certain energy, they're like, you know, when you're at a house and the dog's barking
Starting point is 00:12:30 and everyone's not like the dog stop barking or like the dog wants you to play with it or like the dog is smelling and it keeps licking you. Like, those are some experiences I have with dogs where like cats, it's like, it's a chill energy and they want to get pet. They will give you that love. But you can't force it. No. It's like there's cons to both and pros to both.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. Totally. No, you know, I always, there's nothing better than a good cat because they're just pure love and you don't have to do shit.
Starting point is 00:12:55 I mean, you just like, you have the litter box that's like, you have to walk a dog, you have to pick up a shit. Totally. You have to do other things.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I don't know. And there are these goofy assholes that walk their cats. My cat would never let me do that. Like my cat runs shit and she's like, you're trying to walk me. Can we try to film it? In the Taylor Swift documentary, have you watched it?
Starting point is 00:13:18 Oh, yeah, I have. She has the cat backpack and the cat's just cutely looking out of the window. Butter would not do that. Yeah, her cat would though. Yeah, she has that like kind of cat. But anyway, what made you love animals so much? I want to be a vet because really quick, I wanted to be a vet growing up. You didn't.
Starting point is 00:13:36 That's cute. Like when I was really young, I wanted to be a vet because I loved animals and I found out you have to deal with like animals dying. And that's when I was like, no, thank you. Yeah. So what kind of... Not just deal with it. You are the merchant of death. You were the murderer.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I, first of all, when I was watching, maybe this sums it up, but when I was watching the Taylor Swift documentary, I just kept thinking, who treats her cats? Like, do I know the veterinarian who treats her cats? Where are you veterinarian? I want to know.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah. Anyway, Taylor, if you need a good vet, call me. She does listen, so... Yeah, exactly. You know, ever since I was like zero, all I can remember is. when I was little, my neighbors used to breed these Shih Tzu puppies and they used to keep them in a child's play pen
Starting point is 00:14:18 and they used to put me in the play pen with these puppies and feed me chocolate and I think I was just like done for. I hope they weren't feeding the dog's chocolate. No, I don't think so. I think it was just me chocolate all over my face. The dog's licking it off but like it wasn't enough to be toxic. Which by the way, that scenario is the final chapter of the pedophiles cookbook.
Starting point is 00:14:36 A fucking pen full of puppies with chocolate. Do you like puppy that candy? Come over any time, kid. Yeah, my mom's like, I blocked out everything else. I don't know what else happened, but that moment was... They were grooming you. No, my mom said I would run away and she would find me at their door and be like,
Starting point is 00:14:54 how did you not contact me? Like my 18-month-old ran away to your door and you don't think to like tell me, you just put her in a plate man with your puppies and she would stop that. It's like, it also explains why sometimes you bark now. Yeah, exactly. I mean, honestly, I mean, if you really want to explain your desire to be a vet as a child, you have to find that letter. Yeah, there's a letter that I've posted on my Instagram also that I wrote when I was 10
Starting point is 00:15:18 that I wrote to a like vet tech school. And I said, I've, dear school, animal science, I wanted to be a veterinarian when I grow up. Please find us like. I know a whole lot about animals, H-O-L-E. Babe, you're not going to do it justice. You have to find it. Anyway, they, I sent them a whole envelope with all these stickers, like all my best fuzzy stickers and I said if you don't want the stickers please send them back and they wrote me back
Starting point is 00:15:45 and said they were so sorry they couldn't send me a brochure because I wasn't college level entry but here are my stickers back they thought I'd like to keep them I was like you couldn't just send a girl a brochure like what the hell wow yeah very very tech it's technical you know they say technical it'll take a little it's she's like it's a novel I really want to find that letter it's so funny and you can and So, Richie, you're hilarious, not only because you're an incredible comic, but you also are an Ivy Leaguer who is an alcoholic, who went from corporate America to being a clown on stage at night. Yeah, these are all true things. We're just spinning facts.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Yeah. And we're in the Philly area where you came up. You opened for Kevin Hart. Yeah. What did you think of the Kevin Hart documentary? I didn't watch it. It's rude for your dear friend. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:16:38 What did you learn about him or about comedy? The funniest thing of that whole thing was like, you know, the cheating is like, you know, I learned the lesson from cheating and blah, blah, blah. Him and his current wife was the most open secret in all of entertainment that, like, while he was married to Tori, this chick was on tour with him for like three years. Wow. Yeah. Wow, I had no idea. Yeah, so it's like. Do the story know?
Starting point is 00:17:08 I mean, I think she had a pretty good idea. Yeah. Like, well, there was one whole special that was just about like, man, my wife's crazy. She's always accusing me of cheating. And then like the next one was like, yeah, she didn't on her. Is that your Kevin Hart voice? I can do any black guy. It sounds a lot like that, unless there's a deeper voice.
Starting point is 00:17:28 I can do an old one, real old school guy. Do cat. I love Cat Williams. Yeah. He did a 90 city tour with him I did 160 shows with cat I think He's a wild animal Wild animal is a nice way of putting it
Starting point is 00:17:44 I'm not allowed to actually talk about it Actually I'll go as far as I will go as far as to say That wild animal is not a good way to talk about this person I don't want to tone police anybody But also the funny thing with the Kevin Hart Thing is like then he does marry the girl, I guess that was on tour bus with him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:07 And then he gets caught cheating on her and she's all upset. And it's like, this is how the world works. Totally. Well, it's like, you know, I was a snake when you picked me up, right? Exactly. Yeah. But what was it like being on tour with him as like a comic? Did you learn anything about like his crazy work ethic or that kind of thing?
Starting point is 00:18:21 No, I mean, I never really toured with Kev. I've done like five or six shows with him probably. Yeah. The thing that you cannot deny about that dude is that he fills up every room that he's in. it's fucking crazy is obnoxious no he's he's he's just so charismatic and and he's also he's just like willing to be wrong all the time oh and his I mean if you if you really look at you know if you kind of zoom out from his comedy a lot of it is either I was scared or I was wrong yeah and it really plays against the archetype of the proud
Starting point is 00:19:04 black man whatever but to be a comic you have to be self-aware right but so he basically is willing to start an argument that he knows he's wrong in a room with 10 people and like even if if if there's only two people involved he's going to get all 10 involved yeah just to like so that it's every and he's he can just keep a volley going he seems larger than life what did you learn he's so smart What did you learn from Kat Williams on tour? Want to tell the story of how he had you on tour? You just need to do the voice. Okay.
Starting point is 00:19:40 So the first tour, the first show that I did with him, it was like last minute, which was how he did everything. It was always last minute, right? And it was like Friday, and I got a call. He gets his outfits together last minute? Because those are really good. They might be a pre-planned. Okay. There's a designer involved in this.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Oh, wow. Yeah. So I get this call last minute. It's Friday. It's like you want to open for Kett Williams in Philly on Saturday? Like, yeah, I bet. And I get there and I don't think he's not there like before I go on stage. I'm like, fuck, this guy's not going to see me.
Starting point is 00:20:14 But it was like home court. It was 7,000 people in Philly, all black crowd. And it's like if there's one crowd that I will always smash, it's a big black crowd in Philly. Why? I'm like David Hasselhoff for him. It's like, you are Philly. Well, like, you know how they love Hasselhoff in Germany? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:33 I'm. He just, he does the racial humor so well. Like, I mean, it's a divide that not a lot of people can. It's a divide that's like, you have to know exactly how much to go. It's a razor's edge. We were on, we did a tour. It was like 20,000 people. They had a guy they sometimes would bring in like a local guy to open for Kat.
Starting point is 00:20:52 And there was a black guy who opened. They booed the fuck out of him. Oh, wow. It was insane. There's nothing more traumatic than 20,000. people booing at once it's insane oh my gosh but you also like grew up with black comics uh I mean I came up with yeah like in comedy yeah yeah sorry wrong word yeah you came yeah I came all over those guys came so hard so how did he so you're killing with the
Starting point is 00:21:18 7000 well yeah but I think it's like all for not right that like he's not there and I get all stage and like out of the shadows comes a dude in a fucking, you know, fur hat, fur coat, purple suit. Permed hair. Purned out hair, gold shades. Like, all I hear is, young man, absolutely stupendous. I was like, oh, thank you so much, man. I'd love to do another show with you.
Starting point is 00:21:45 He's like, I'll have you on the road, and that's my word. That quick. Yeah, and it's like that. I love him. Yeah, so I watch. Well, I know he got beat up by an eighth grade. grader, but that's kind of hilarious to me. That's a, but...
Starting point is 00:22:02 Someone needs to keep getting the bills. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so he's got this like 36 city tour booked for like a month and a half later, and I start seeing all these other comics are posting, like, hey, I'm opening for cat, hey, I'm opening for cat. I'm like, oh, shit, this thing's not going to happen, you know? And then last minute again, it was Thursday,
Starting point is 00:22:29 And they're like, can you do D.C. tomorrow and tomorrow through Sunday. Like, fuck yeah. And then I get a call back and they're like, hey, we made a mistake. There's already somebody else booked. But, you know, so you can only do one of the nights. And I was like, well, I already booked two nights, you know, like a hotel room. And they're like, all right, you can just do those. So those go really well.
Starting point is 00:22:54 And then, like, when I get off Saturday night, his agent is like, It's not going to happen, but are you available tomorrow in case we want to use you again? Like, yeah. And he's like, well, I guess we've got to call this other guy. So right in front of me, he's like, yeah, so I know you were looking forward to it, but he booked somebody else. So, sorry. Yep, I know.
Starting point is 00:23:16 I know. I'm sorry. And he's giving you like the, you happy now? I was like, man, fuck this dude. I don't give a shit. So the next show goes well. And then Thursday night again. I get a call, can you be at the airport at 6 a.m. tomorrow to go to, like, Jackson, Mississippi.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And I was like, well, I'm in, I think I was up in, like, Boston. And I was like, I'm in Boston, and I have shows here. They're like, we'll buy you out. Don't worry about it. I was like, but my car's here. They're like, we'll fly you back there. Don't worry. So do three shows again, get flown back there.
Starting point is 00:23:52 I have to drive back to Boston. And they, like, he, like, gave me a bone. So the craziest part of working for Kat. is that there's X amount of dollars that you're guaranteed, you know, like from the booker, the promoter. And then he's like, can I talk to you for a second? And then, like, he daps you. So the first time that he dabbed me coming out of the crowd,
Starting point is 00:24:13 I forgot this, is that he gave me, like, a watt. And it was like, holy shit, what is this? And he's have to, like, play it cool and, like, put your pocket. Yeah, like, you get that all the time. Yeah, but it's like, but it's definitely like, like, this is enough money to stop a bullet. Like this is a fucking. lot of cash.
Starting point is 00:24:28 That's what he keeps in all his jackets. Yeah. And then, and so it just keeps happening like this that like, it's like Thursday night at like one in the morning, hey, in five hours can you be at the airport? All right. So, so much anxiety. Dude. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:44 So the people on the tour like, hey, he like, and I've interacted with him almost zero at this point because like that's, that's my move is like, like, I'm not trying to be your best friend. I just won't fucking kill the show and stay out of sight. Yeah. Let you have your weird. I wonder what he's like in bed. It's probably wild.
Starting point is 00:25:05 The fetishes. I'm just trying to think so hard. I mean, he's got a lot of children. Is that how you? He gets the children involved? What do you say? Is that how you evaluate? I think also they're adopted.
Starting point is 00:25:22 They're not all. I don't know. So like you see a guy with a lot of kids like, man, I doke and fun. he's a freak pulling down that good good so you're not being you're just chilling you're not trying to be all up in the space
Starting point is 00:25:40 yeah so and they're finally like hey you have to talk to him and ask him if you can be on all of these shows you know so after they made you ask yeah and so like after this like Dallas show they're like everybody's like
Starting point is 00:25:54 you gotta talk to him I was like hey cat can we talk he's like um Yeah, but I'm in the middle of something. We're going to have to have a phone call. I will dedicate some verbiage. Right. So the time for the phone call comes and goes.
Starting point is 00:26:08 I'm like, ah, shit. And then the next weekend's off. And then we're in Chicago. And the first show goes by. Well, okay, I'm sorry. So before this weekend, it's down to the wire again. And I'm like, oh, Jesus Christ. It gets down to Friday morning.
Starting point is 00:26:25 and I get a phone call from a 310 number and it's like, you know, it's 6 in the morning I pick up. Yeah. Richie? Yeah. It's Kat. Williams. I was going to leave you a message,
Starting point is 00:26:44 and I forgot what I was going to say. But can you come this weekend? I was like, yeah. He's like, okay, bye. So I have to just like scramble and figure out how I'm getting to Chicago. like that you know within like two hours they just reimburse you for this stuff yeah oh my god so it so now it comes down to it's the final show of this chicago weekend and it's just
Starting point is 00:27:06 me and him finally in in the dressing room i was like so cat should i cancel all my shows for for the rest of you know these three months you like do you want to cancel all your shows he's like am i going to be on the cat williams tour do you want to be on the cat williams He's like, yes, of course. He wanted you to, like, say what you want. I was like, of course I want to be on. He's like, motherfucker, I already told you you're on. I was like, when?
Starting point is 00:27:32 He's like, when I called you? I was like, cat, I picked up and you got all confused. He's like, oh, yeah, I was going to leave you a message. You would have had that for the rest of your life, but you fucked it up. Isn't that way he called you so early because he didn't think you'd Big up? Yeah. What the fuck is going on? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:54 And I was like, so I'm on. He's like, yeah. There was an N-word involved, which felt great. So now you're boys. Yeah, and that was how, that was like, you know, how I got on the first tour. And then the rest, it was just like, it was just like, show up, do well, get the call the next week. Like, they were all that insecure. It was crazy.
Starting point is 00:28:17 What did you learn about, like, comedy? through him? Or like what do you think makes him such a successful comedian? When he is on, when he's in it, there's nobody better. Like if he shows up to do comedy and perform, like that's what it is. It's the performance. Like he's very much a preacher. You know, he's got the Baptist preacher thing.
Starting point is 00:28:42 Yeah. And he can talk about serious topics and shit like that, but the performance is there. If he doesn't want to do it. Woo! Then he just doesn't show up and you take over a 20,000 person crowd in Texas. I may. Headlined a couple times. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:00 He just decides he doesn't want to show up and doesn't show up. Twice. I mean, 20,000 cedar crowds. Twice. I got left on stage for over 40 minutes. Wow. Well, honestly, Kat, as a young child, he was like mesmerizing. Like, it's hard to watch a full hour, I feel like, when you're young.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I'm somewhere in a comedy you don't know. And I would just watch it over and over again. Also, that first special that he did was a half, I was less than half hours, like 25 minutes, but there was so much buildup, there's so much celebrity. Like, you know, he had Snoop, he had little John. He had, like, all these celebs. Yeah. He made it, like, such an ordeal.
Starting point is 00:29:37 Would you go on tour with him again? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the way that I knew I wasn't going to hear from him for a long time was that, that after the last show that we did together, he's like, I will absolutely have you on the road again. I was like, I'm not going to see you for a minute.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Why do you think it is? I think it's just run their course, you know. You did 100 million shows. How many? 90 cities, right? Yeah. But also, I mean, for the kind of comedy I want to do, like, in that time, I was like, I was great at performing, but I wasn't really writing or developing new
Starting point is 00:30:15 stuff but it also just keeps you like super centered to like I literally went one time from 22,000 people in Atlanta on a Saturday to that Sunday I was at the pair in front of four Norwegians and a gay dude I kind of love it though because it's such a different experience well but it's like oh this is how famous I am but yeah because yeah for a second you're like I deserve these crowds. Why can't I do this? But I also feel like when you're opening for someone else, it's still like their brand and like their niche of comedy.
Starting point is 00:30:55 Where like if people are coming for you, you can grow and evolve and people will like evolve with you sometimes. Where if it's someone else, it's like, you stay in your lane. I totally get that. So how the fuck did you two meet? Craig's list. Yeah, we once told, he once opened for Jim Norton and he said, how did you meet?
Starting point is 00:31:13 And I said the abortion clinic. He taught me to say that. And without missing a beat, Jim goes, well, at least, you know, you both don't want kids. Did you say Craigslist, though? No, Tinder, Tinder. Sometimes we'll say Craigslist, too. I actually met a guy on Craigslist once. His name was Craig.
Starting point is 00:31:30 No. Yeah, I dated him for, he was like a roommate, like, situation. Oh. It was me, my friend, and two other guys, we met on Craigslist to live there. And I thought they were gay from, like, we want family dinners and, like, you have to be clean. And I was like, they're homosexuals. And then I was like, he's kind of cute and very convenient. Very convenient.
Starting point is 00:31:51 Just across the living room. So Tinder, had you guys been on Tinder for a while? This one had been. Yeah, I got to the end of Tinder a few times. The end. Literally, have you ever done that? She got the thinking wheel on Tinder, like just all out of dicks. Because you just, why did that happen to you?
Starting point is 00:32:11 Who hurt you? Well, I had just moved to the city from California, and I was doing like 100-hour work-week internships. Oh, my God. How old were you? I'm really old. I'm like a million years old right now. You look like you're 24. You're probably 32, though.
Starting point is 00:32:25 33. Something. Did you, like, really want a relationship at that time? No, I wasn't thinking about it at all. I never thought. I don't think in terms of, I'm not a good, like, long term. I'm very good at living in the now. And, like, I don't really actually plan, which is probably like,
Starting point is 00:32:42 like why we've been together six years and not we're not I know I love to ask him every podcast like should we get married should we have a baby I once asked him if we should have a baby and he said well if we found one we could keep it so I don't think I was really looking for anything except for I thought actually it would just be a good way to get to know the city like I would like make the guy choose the place and I would just get to like know all the best funnest places in the city and I had a friend who would call it my meal plan because I would go out on like two or three dates a day girls save that money I mean, actually, I'm very, though, also, like, control.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Like, I actually would really split the bill because that's just me, but. But also, that's stressful to me, like, going on dates. It's three good. It got sometimes stressful, but I, like, like, meeting new people. Did you change your underwear even? God. Maybe two days. Like, I would do, like, a morning thing and, like, a night thing.
Starting point is 00:33:33 I don't know. If I had the time. I don't know where I got the energy, though. I would not. Now I just. And, like, if you didn't like the guy, would you just, like, ghost him? Like, what would you do? Yeah, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:33:41 Okay. Yeah, yeah, that's... Because my hard thing is, like, you go on a date, and then, like, a guy thinks you hit it off, and then, like, you have to break up with them, and it's like, I don't need to break up with, like, four people. The thing that sucks... The thing that sucks about the social media generation is that you can't just ditch somebody. You ever ditch someone on a date? That's the best.
Starting point is 00:34:01 I've never done that because I'm not a terrible human being. Have you ditched someone on a date? Yeah, I straight up. Like, you said you have to go to the bathroom when you just left? Yeah. You shat yourself and then left. I just walk like a penguin out of the room. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:34:17 Just let him go. He stinks. Wish I had thicker socks. When did you tell me this date? What happened? It was in Philly and it was some chick that I met and like I met her at comedy and she was, she got there early. I've had a lot of dates where the girl gets there early, totally overshoots the mark drinking and it's like a fucking. mess that I don't want to have to deal with.
Starting point is 00:34:44 But she also dropped a hard R N word and like Yeah like at this And it was just like we just had like appetizers at a bar Tequila Are turning in your favor Yeah
Starting point is 00:34:58 And then you were the worst human And then you were basically like I have to go the bathroom Like what's the move? I was texting with a friend And And it was basically he was basically just like Yeah ditcher come hang here I was like, yeah, that sounds great.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And did she text you like, hello? Yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of texts I didn't get back to. I once had a moment with a guy, this Australian guy, gorgeous, owned a coffee shop, was like a professional rugby player. I don't know, I was like into it. And he was like, hey, before we go get food, I have to stop in my friend's place. But like it's like he was his business partner and he was like, I have to have a little bit of like.
Starting point is 00:35:36 Air quotes there. Well, you said he has to have a fight with him. He's like, I have to have a fight with him about something. just wait here and I was like okay out back steakhouse whatever and he he's like five minutes oh the old blooming onion anyway so he's like it's been five minutes and I'm like on the corner random area in Williamsburg and it's been like 10 minutes and I'm like okay 15 minutes and I'm starting to feel a little disrespected and it's like kind of cold out and also I thought I was going to have a call with like someone and then they didn't pick up so I was like okay I'll just stand
Starting point is 00:36:10 here 20 minutes goes by and I text him and I'm like are you like okay like moving on to an altercation 30 minutes goes by and then you start reflecting on all your life decisions you're like I'm waiting for a dude on a corner in the cold for 30 minutes and then I had one of those where once it hits me I'm done and I was like I'm going home so I just went home got home and he's blowing my phone up where are you where are you whatever the text even the text how does your text have a speech impediment and I would just remember but like some of those moments
Starting point is 00:36:41 it's empowering to like have boundaries yeah oh my god yeah you too you run around you get on Tinder what was the date like well first of all I will say this that she was my first match on Tinder
Starting point is 00:36:54 that's just unfair yeah not by any stretch where'd you go so this was the thing was that we uh we had we accidentally had to get to know each other because she was doing this internship I may have gotten out of a relationship the day before but uh she was she was like finishing up her internship
Starting point is 00:37:20 which is like you know hell week for for vets and couldn't meet up and we wound up getting to know each other over like the phone or something yeah like text text text mostly text but sometimes text is the worst because you can get along with anyone over text that's like not really stupid but then in person you just like hate their vibe yeah no but like he also called me though that was different okay that was different that was I thought you why are you putting in that kind of effort I know I liked her yeah how did you know she was funny and smart and the relationship I just got out of was a real box of hair so you know so she was the light at the end of the tunnel possibly so then how did you make time for him well no
Starting point is 00:38:07 We just, like, had rhythm right away, right? I kept, I had to cancel. Yeah, no, we did. We had just had chemistry right away. And I had to cancel right away. She fell from my bullshit. Yeah. And I remember we were talking about a book, pretty much, every day, still every day.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I love this self-awareness. Well, that's always funny with, like, a girl's worried that, like, about, like, other girls around her dude. It's like, look, they're not all going to fall for my bullshit. That thing you think is charming. Yeah, that's just you. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I chose him on. He was on the stage.
Starting point is 00:38:42 He was on stage. It must have been a cat tour. Silver jacket. And I was like, oh, this guy looks like a cocky, just like power suit, cocky. Like, yeah, I'll do this. That was pretty much my move. And then are you each other's like types? Good question.
Starting point is 00:39:00 I just got awkward. I don't know. Types. I probably am. I mean, I don't know. I mean, you, no, he's not like the boys that I've dated before, for sure. Definitely not. What kind of guys did you date before?
Starting point is 00:39:14 I mean, the one was a professional hockey player. Oh, you love bringing this guy up. That's terrible, though. Yeah, it was terrible. Ruined your life. Yeah. My mom literally, she went to Cornell and she was the only thing she told me when I went to Wisconsin was to stay away from the hockey guys. Not like advice about school or, she just says stay with the hockey guys.
Starting point is 00:39:32 They have no teeth. They're older than you. They have STD's. They'll give you a jock itch it. yeah his dad was a dentist but if I could do it again yeah exactly he gave me athletes foot he totally did down there yeah he totally did not comedians not funny tall broad like different suits like whatever you're like I just see a blur of suits yeah um I remember you saying I made everybody else seem boring yeah but you were fun oh and a thing with with Lisa that I
Starting point is 00:40:04 that stands out was that like when we first started dating and started talking and stuff like I didn't know how it was going to end or I didn't know what the deal breaker was going to be that there was so many times that I got into something knowing like well this is why you know like that thing I'm gonna look at for now
Starting point is 00:40:21 but you get that nine months you see in the beginning and you're like that's cute now but it's going to be impossible to deal with in the future yeah so when we were dating he kept talking telling me about this book the alchemist did you ever read The Alchemist and anyway he was like
Starting point is 00:40:36 well I'll bring it on our first date and he brought it and he's like open it up and I wrote you a note and in there is a little sticky note that said I want the shit back so then we go out to we go to the Hudson Hotel and she fucking me toed
Starting point is 00:40:53 the shit out of me no so I had read so agro I kept like I'm a doctor I kept right I kept asking him to go for a drink and he was like let's go for coffee and I was like you don't drink
Starting point is 00:41:07 do you and then I found his bio that said he was like uh you know she web stalked me like that and I was like you don't drink to you and he's like that's usually an awkward conversation while you sip your wine and I blow bubbles into my chocolate milk and so I was like I remember I remember and so he's like I refeed you I can't believe you remember that I said that I'm not choking you hard enough we need to raise the dosage so we went and he was like I was like he's like get a drink I was like no I'm not going to drink if you're not drinking he's like don't make it awkward just get a drink so I got a drink and then proceeded to spill it we sat down on the couch I spilled it all over immediately it was a tequila it was a margarita it was a stain in the shape of a penis like she hit dude nothing but crotch and Sick move. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:04 Yeah. Oh, look at you. Oh, you're all wet. Look at you. Oh, my God. We got to get these pants off of you. And you were in a hotel? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:13 Yeah. In the Hudson Hotel and like one of those couches that had like divots to it. So like all the alcohol is pulled up. That couch is no longer there, by the way. We're the last people to sit on that. Yeah. But, uh, well, no. And she happened to plan this date that's like two blocks away from her place.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Like classic fuck boy behavior. We're learning Lisa's a fuck boy But also convenient for me By that time it had been like two years of dating on Tinder a lot And by this time I was like I've learned all the places in New York City You're coming to me Also the real fuckery was that she had to get me out of there
Starting point is 00:42:49 Because she had another date to get to I don't remember that Men love that They're like I don't know what I feel about her But I need to protect her and have her as my own that Yeah that's animalistic behavior But, yeah, so I got to do the pants off, dance off with her dog that was a total stranger at that point. With you, you took her pants off.
Starting point is 00:43:09 75 pounds. I didn't take them off. I took them up. 75 pound dog that was like super into like, hey, what's that smell like? Girls have no idea how alarming it is to be naked around a waist level dog. in a 400 square foot studio no molars all canines all canines so did you guys do you guys fuck on the first date no no we didn't blow job mouth stuff okay that's normal that's what adults do you're like we can't do it but we're here yeah but also it was like we were dating
Starting point is 00:43:51 for like two weeks but not that i'm justifying i'm not justifying because like i've done this is safe place all What? She's like, I normally fuck on the first day. Yeah, I normally just do it. How much come do you think you guys have seen in your life? How many times do you think you've seen come in your life? Less than you.
Starting point is 00:44:09 For sure. You've seen way more. For sure. I try not to see it. Or how much do you think you've produced? We've milked. It's a lot. But also, some guys are different.
Starting point is 00:44:23 Some guys that come way more than other dudes. Yeah, but it's an average. You got to work out the averages. Can we turn this to you? Oh, yeah. I just did. I'm so, no, that's true, the cum part, but like. Look, make a shape of how much cum you think.
Starting point is 00:44:37 I'm so, I'm curious. So much. I'm 208. Yeah, you're so, you're so, you're so beautiful and so young and so baby. So you're still, are you dating three times a day? No, I like, I'm like actually kind of, I quit dating three weeks ago. Until next week. I used to be like that monogamous date or like,
Starting point is 00:44:57 20 to 26 I had like about a year relationship with someone like back to back to back and then I was just like having fun recently and then I have a bad habit of just dating guys to like just for fun to date him yeah or like I'll get a guy and I'm like I can make myself like him to like because I like having a crush it's fun yeah and then like and then inevitably ends and you're like why did I even waste my time with all that like I knew I hated him like within the first week. I feel like girls think of relationships more in terms of that specific thing of like I wasted my time. Yeah. That like, I mean, you're going to do something.
Starting point is 00:45:39 Yeah. I am also at a place right now, though, where like the real estate in my brain, I don't have time to like be worried about someone else. And I hate the feeling of being like, oh, well, I want to do this tonight, but he probably wants to see me tonight. And I don't, I want to see him. Yeah. And I kind of am like at a point where I feel like I've learned a lot. I've dated a lot and now it's like if it's meant to be I can't force it it'll happen yeah but then I joke because people are like when you don't try that's when it happens I'm
Starting point is 00:46:06 bitch I when I don't try I don't try no one will find me but I want to know from you two what are your biggest now we're getting a little dark physical insecurities about ourselves yeah oh he makes me insecure about his nose I just something about it that's funny well turn this into like a sorority thing like get the marker I'll show you
Starting point is 00:46:35 Ashley Heselton was like are you going to circle my fat right now like what's going to happen Oh is this your thing You like to play this game? Oh yeah Let's play a game Do you want to play a game?
Starting point is 00:46:48 What do you insecure about physically Lisa? Well when I was little When I was 13 When I was 12 Somebody called me Spock at camp because, like, my ears used to stick out. Oh, yeah, mine too.
Starting point is 00:46:58 So I didn't have this crease, past tense, did not have it. So I used to go to bed with, like, hysterical crying every night, and my mom was finally like, you can't live like this. Like, if this really bothers you that much, then we're going to take you to a doctor. So, and up until the time I was in the surgery room, about to get plastic surgery on my ear, she was like, you can turn around right now. And I was like, nope, never wanted anything more. So got my ears done, but I kind of made myself a promise, like, when I was 13,
Starting point is 00:47:24 that I, like, wouldn't, it wouldn't, like, spiral out of control. I mean, there's so many things I want done. I just think, like, you know, like, I have this. My nose is broken. So, like, I have this bump here. Like, I would inject my lips. I would inject so many things. I would inject so many things.
Starting point is 00:47:40 Wait, what did they do to your ears? They, so this, you can't see it, but there's this fold that people have right here. Uh-huh. I'm looking to. You're looking, yeah. By the way, check out her ear party that she's been running very hard on. Oh, ear party, yeah. And now I can have my ear party.
Starting point is 00:47:56 They created this fold. So, like, I didn't have it, so they, it stuck out a little more like this. It was, like, a little straighter. And they created a fold in it so that they wouldn't stick out as much. Are you happy you got it done? I think so. I was so young. And I look back now and I'm like, what the fuck was my mom thinking?
Starting point is 00:48:11 Like, getting a 12-year-old plastic surgery. Like, what was she thinking? I mean, I feel like you would have grown in. Like, I had, like, my ears, I grew into them. And now they're really small. They're really cute. Thank you. When I was little, they were big.
Starting point is 00:48:22 And people said I had elf ears. Yeah, I just took it really to heart. I really took it to heart. And I always creepily stare at his ears. And I'm like, you have such cute perfect ears. If anything makes me want to breed with you. It's those ears. It's not even have the cutest fucking ears.
Starting point is 00:48:39 I know, but also you talk about these ears of yours so much. It's kind of a red floor. Yeah, for sure. For sure. You have to know what the people got done for plastic surgeries and your kids are going to like. I do not purport to be. But how did you stop the ears? Like, I wonder if you could like pass a kid.
Starting point is 00:48:54 with those ears coming out, you know, but it like it gets stuck on the canal. There's a labia that just won't. Yeah, ears are just clawing the badge. We've never seen this before. Cut him off. Their ears are stuck. What made you stop, like,
Starting point is 00:49:11 and not let it be, like, a gateway surgery to other things? Because I could just see being, like, what about that done? Why don't I just change my fucking face? Totally. I mean, I think, I mean, my mom, and she was just like, I just don't want,
Starting point is 00:49:22 it was like one of her fears, you know? Like, if I, we do this, like I don't want this and so I just made a promise to myself at that time that that wouldn't happen yeah and now there's all these like injectables which are non-surgical options which are cool I mean you know everything is a risk anesthesia is typically very safe like I put patients under it but it does sort of blow my mind that like people will electively undergo anesthesia for not that I wouldn't I did it I did it but to like elect to do like such a not invasive surgery yeah so Richie do you have any opinion on
Starting point is 00:49:54 Lisa getting plastic surgery? She doesn't need it. Aw. I mean, I mean, like if she woke in one day. No, I all the time. Would you get nervous if like this woman you love to change her nose and her whole face looks different? I like her nose.
Starting point is 00:50:09 Or it's like, I try all the time. I'm a new person. Look, obviously we could take another swipe at the ears. But like that's, you're never done with your ears. Their ears are great. They're okay. They're not perfect, right? But that's what, but that's the thing, like, I want to stop striving for perfection.
Starting point is 00:50:28 And I feel like Richie loves you because you look like you. Yeah. And like, I'm sick of all these like younger girls all looking like the same human. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I want someone to like me for my little elf ears. I saw the funniest meme yesterday that was like nobody's. Oh, wait, what were you saying?
Starting point is 00:50:46 Oh, no. I saw the funniest movie yesterday. It was all the Kardashians from 20 million years ago and it said nobody is ugly. just poor and it was all of them like pre all their plastic surgery it's so true well also let's not forget there's all there's bad plastic surgery true like it's it's the equivalent of like they got really good plastic surgeons they do these little things you would never know have you ever seen the uh there's a meme of like fifty dollar tattoo 500 dollar tattoo 5,000 dollar tattoo I want to see that of like 500 dollar lips 5,000 dollar lips it is so true just smacked but I also think like if I
Starting point is 00:51:23 change my face to look like what society thinks is beautiful first of all that changes what society thinks is beautiful second of all i don't want my lips to look like the next girl's lips who's in the same office like i want someone to like love me for me and me to love me for me it's hard to love you when you want to look like someone else brenner it's just so refreshing to see a body positive girl that's also beautiful you know how can you not see all these ugly body positive bitch is out there. Hey girls. It's okay.
Starting point is 00:51:56 This is a message from Murph. I actually love that you said that because I've gotten heat because I'm like, I've gone like really anti-plastic surgery. I'm like before you do anything, ask yourself what you're really like, what's really hurting you. Like is it really your ears or does it really like something deeper? And it was like people were bullying you. You never had issue with your ear before.
Starting point is 00:52:16 And I was 12. I mean, I was younger. It started younger than that. Yeah. But I, you know, again, I look back and I think what the fuck was my mom. thinking and I understand if someone's like oh my back hurts like I want to get my boobs down or like or I get really bullied for like a really abnormal feature I have yeah um but I'm like before you just like decide oh I want lip injections like just think I just don't like
Starting point is 00:52:35 I like this is your soap box it is my soap box but then people are like bitch shut the fuck up you don't have any like I don't have any features that someone's like whoa see the the nose on that one right so it's like I can't I really can't speak to what it's like if I felt but I also never put my looks on a pedestal as in I don't feel value from my looks but I could see if as a girl you think looks are the most important thing which in society is very important but I would argue like with comedy it's nice to be good looking but like you have to be funny to actually be successful yeah maybe do I get more opportunities because I'm like a cute girl maybe doesn't hurt doesn't hurt if I was ugly I think I'd be maybe arguably
Starting point is 00:53:18 funnier. It's a line from, what was that Sandler and Seth Rogen movie? Like, there's nothing funny about a mildly obese man. It's like, like, go all the way. If you're going to be fat motherfucker, go for it. But I actually, I relate to
Starting point is 00:53:33 the body image stuff in a weird way because I was the last kid on earth to go through puberty. Oh. Like at 14, there were like guys with hair on their chest. I was 78 pounds my freshman year in high school. I graduated
Starting point is 00:53:50 103 pounds. I was 110 pounds my freshman year in college. And you were like, I need calf implants. And 127 when I graduated from college. I'm still heavier than you. I've gained weight sets. So I was the coxswain for the crew team.
Starting point is 00:54:08 I was the little guy to steer boats. Oh, so you used it for your advantage. Yeah. When life gives you AIDS, like, where, like, both my parents were small, you know. And, like, my dad always said he was, like, I grew after college. He's like, and, but I was, like, seriously depressed about it sometimes, you know, because, like, everybody else goes through puberty. I was 5'1 in, uh, in, until probably, like, my junior year.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Of what? Of high school. Wow. Um, I mean, I say I'm 5'9 now and I'm lying, but. Yeah. Not a warm day. Yeah. Things expand.
Starting point is 00:54:49 But, yeah, it was this really weird thing because it was like, you know, I'm friends. So, first of all, my friends are all the rowers in school, which are like the best-looking most jacked dudes in school for the most part. Yeah, they're all like six-nine. And they're smart too. They were who I dated. Yeah. I was dating all of them. I had these, like, you know, I had this weird, like, dichotomy where it was like, I really wanted to get laid, but I also didn't want anybody to know I didn't have pups.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Yeah, it was fucking bizarre Or you can just be like I shave Right, yeah Yeah, in 1994 I'm just waxing my all three pieces And even got your asshole, huh? Yeah, I was thorough So your puberty was slow
Starting point is 00:55:31 It was super late, yeah But it was like My parents are always like Oh well when you're 30 it'll be great You know, when you're 40 it'll be great And now, yeah, it's great Like I still get sent out for roles All the time
Starting point is 00:55:45 And we're like, are you fucking kidding me? I'm 41. I got sent out for like a 20-year-old recently. Yeah, you've great skin, too. No. They're like, does he have 5 o'clock show? Maybe also would help with your personality. For sure.
Starting point is 00:56:05 Yeah. Well, I mean, it was like, well, I mean, well, being a coxswin in general was like, I was one of Mike for two hours a day. Oh, my God. Yeah. Also, like, you know, you're basically, you're motivating people. And, like, to be able to tap into emotions is, it's a pretty similar thing to humor. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:27 To make people laugh. You have to have empathy and, like, social awareness. Pissed, to make them, like, super fired up, to make them empathetic, like, whatever it is. There's something there that you kind of want. And you're also, like, it's kind of lonely in the front. Like, it's just, it's you guiding where it's, like, it's a little lonely on stage sometimes. where it's just you. That was a bit deep, but, uh...
Starting point is 00:56:48 It was, we're getting deep. But no. I love I was like, is he about to just, he's about to be like, no! He's not over. Don't you dare say I'm alone. No, but like the other thing was that like, so I'm the smallest guy in school, but my friends are the biggest guys in school. So it was like, go talk some shit.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Like, go for it. Talk that shit. Because Jeremiah the third is going to kick you in the nuts. Do you know what's crazy? I matched on Raya with one of the wink. Humble brink. Really? Really?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yeah. He was like, oh. So what happened? Nothing came out of it. Why? We had like, he said something, I said something, he said something, and I might have said something, and then it didn't go anywhere. Yo, can you put me down with your twin?
Starting point is 00:57:30 I heard he's got a little more personality. As funny as I looked at the two and I was like, oh, I got the uglier one. There's always the ugly one. There's always the ugly one. You can't be with the other one. I was like, you should get a nose job. Anyway, no. What's your guy's biggest insecurity kind of?
Starting point is 00:57:43 biggest insecurity kind of emotionally with yourselves? Like your personality. I could say it if you guys don't know. You know my biggest insurer. I mean, I think it's my job right now. Like, I've been through so many job changes. Like, I still don't fucking know what I want to be when I grow up. It's like you think you should have it figured out by
Starting point is 00:57:59 now, but like I have my, I have a lot of irons in the fire, which I think is cool and fun and I do a bunch different things. She's the busiest be. What do you have going on right now, just so people know? Well, so the Instagram stuff, so I do some like veterinary influencer stuff, which is super fun. I went really viral with a patient a really long time ago before like the algorithm changed and things were really bitchy. And I did everything. Like I've been on Dr. Oz numerous times and Inside Edition, TMC, you name it. I mean, I've done it. And so, um, so that kind of media side gig, Instagram. And then we have the podcast, which I mean is almost is really like a full time job having a podcast. No, it's not. Not for me because he does most of the work.
Starting point is 00:58:40 Full time. It's like I hear it's hard. Just watching him do it. I'm so tired. And then... He does do a lot of work. He does. He does.
Starting point is 00:58:52 He does. I mean, yeah, he makes up the quizzes beforehand. Yeah. So it's really tiring watching that. He tells you we have to go to the next segment. Yeah. Keep it moving. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:59:05 He's like, yeah, we're not going to get to the next game. And I've made 40 of them. Yeah. We will play these. God damn it. Being a dog. mom and then yeah I mean I was part of a house call start I did emergency veterinary medicine for two years general practice joined a house call practice started my own house call practice got recruited
Starting point is 00:59:25 to be the lead New York veterinarian of this startup the startup just folded two weeks ago so I'm like now scrambling to be like what the fuck like I'm now starting my own business from scratch they don't know if we'll be sustainable so it's it's hard I think that that's probably the hardest thing is like well i'm excited for you because i feel like a lot of these like i got fired from my job and that was how i ultimately started my like podcast and comedy but i think sometimes like you need the universe to kick you on your ass to like make decisions you wouldn't necessarily make for sure but i'm excited for you thanks yeah ritchie what are you insecure about besides your lack of pubes no my pewge game is nice now
Starting point is 01:00:04 it's luscious yeah rays and everything uh i borrow lisa's mascara sometimes and his hand paint him like a little figurine I mean it's the same thing it's the insecurity of comedy you know like I mean I I have worked on myself and I do work on myself and you know I'm sober which is
Starting point is 01:00:29 when did you get sober 12 years ago? A million years ago so like you know that's something that I need to maintain to just to be present like to not be selfish and self-centered and stuff like that but like you know with comedy there's there's no guarantees and there's no retirement plan for it and I'm very good at what I do and it's it's hard to not get passed over you know so it's like one show at a time I always do well
Starting point is 01:01:03 but then there's just like the bigger picture and the bigger puzzle that has to like put you on for certain things that you can't control. Yeah. Because of whatever they're looking for. Like is my preparation meets opportunity. Yeah. I love that. And it's like I'm trying to, I'm always ready.
Starting point is 01:01:18 Well, I think that's the most important thing in New York City. I've had people like, I haven't gotten that opportunity. I'm like, right now, if the casting director was like, do your monologue, whatever, some actor. Can you, are you ready? Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's all you can do. I really don't give a fuck about anything other than comedy.
Starting point is 01:01:34 Yeah. It's like, it's the old Mitch Hedberg joke is the, best is that uh it's like yeah you know i spend all this time uh doing comedy and now that i'm then i'm getting famous people are like can you act and it's like that's like saying i got good as shit at cooking and then they're like can you farm and it's like but it's also why i've been doing it for so long because you it's what you're meant to do yeah i mean i've been a full-time comic for pretty long time now how many years um i think it's been like eight years wow oh so You started comedy when you're sober?
Starting point is 01:02:09 Yeah. No. No. I said I've been full time since I've been sober. Oh, full time. Yeah. And how do you think it affected your relationships and comedy becoming sober? My relationships in comedy?
Starting point is 01:02:21 Um, and comedy. So, like, once you got sober, did it help your relationships in your life? Let's just say I wasn't dating too many doctors. Strippers were not doctors. They were all ters. A lot of urs. Have you been a, have you dated addicts before? No.
Starting point is 01:02:46 I love an addict. They're great in bed, right? Yeah, and they like, see that point when they get, like, addicted to you and you're like, I got him. Yeah, I got him. I got him. I don't know what you're like, do you know, your boyfriend is? I'm like, I don't know, but he's addicted. And this face is good.
Starting point is 01:03:02 He will literally suck a dick for this pussy, okay? I think I like addicts though Because I love like I love helping people And like I see they're struggling And like I struggle in different ways And I like but I need to not do that Have you seen Dirty John?
Starting point is 01:03:19 I'm a fixer Have I seen Derry John? Yes Oh And did you And you It was close to home What?
Starting point is 01:03:25 It was like my daughter murdered someone And it was a lot Butter Tara's gonna be on our podcast Oh my God she's amazing I've heard she's like Good on podcast I mean she loves her dog
Starting point is 01:03:36 And so we were like, come on and talk about how you killed someone, or your dog, or your dog. You guys haven't seen Derry John on Bravo. So good. Oh, yeah, that's right. Of course. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, I got sober for comedy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Yeah. Did you think that you were, we're getting a little deep, but what do you think the main reason was why you were drinking so much? Because it wasn't just because you like love whiskey. No, I mean, it's a genetic thing. 100%. Are you Irish? Irish and German. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:05 But it was, it wasn't even drinking as much as my, when I started doing comedy, my best, I became best friends with this guy who was becoming a drug dealer. And he got really good at it, like really good at it. A comedy or drug dealing? Drug dealing. That was his comedy. He got way better at drug dealing than I wasn't a comic. No, he wasn't a comic.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Oh, he was just a friend. Yeah, so like I basically had. You hung with an interesting crew in Philly. I'd envision you're rolling with Cat Williams strippers and a drug dealer. And Ivy League. You have to see the picture that I posted today on Instagram. It was a crew. A throwback.
Starting point is 01:04:40 But like, so I basically was, I had at-cost drugs, like, you know, for years. So it removed the money problem of drugs. So it was basically just down to me and my own id and, like, how deep I was willing to go. And got real fucked. I mean, there was like six years where it's like, I don't even count it. Like, I don't know what happened. Yeah. You know, it was just doing a ton of drugs with this click, and he got arrested.
Starting point is 01:05:11 Well, I had a psychotic break. I overdosed on a bunch of hallucinogens, and all I could talk about for about a month and a half because I was tripping the whole time was the laws of motion. And when I came out of that, I broke up with that whole crew of friends. So you're going to say that stripper. Her too. she's actually stole around
Starting point is 01:05:34 and so like I broke up with him and then because of like just not doing drugs before going on stage after like two months I won some contest
Starting point is 01:05:48 that like you know it was like an HBO contest that like sent me out to Vegas and stuff which in itself was like the universe telling you hey if you don't get fucked up before you do comedy
Starting point is 01:05:57 you might be good at this and then while I was in Vegas he had a knock on the door and the DEA came through and he wound up getting like seven years which is a blessing for you and like if I hadn't broken up with him I would have been on the couch like for sure would have been on the couch wow psychotic break is like kind of cool I don't meet a lot of people have psychotic breaks like you just you couldn't think like you weren't in your right your the brains were not working so what had what had you went the whole thing what happened was what it happened was so I had that whole crew at my parents and like unbeknownst to
Starting point is 01:06:32 them everybody there was some kind of drug dealer pretty much and after like just drinking smoking weed all day it got serious at night and uh there's there was like speed five or six hits of ecstasy and a like eighth of mushrooms and were you going anywhere that night no we were so my parents lived on a river so we had it was like a camp out type of thing but i was hippie flipping really hard but also with amphetamines on board which like speeds everything up uh-huh um you should try but uh but like i was going deeper than everybody else was why and uh just because i'm an addict like i did so you're gonna say because i'm the coolest yeah because they're fucking loser pills and shrooms taste great uh so i wind up on a kayak at four in the morning playing with half
Starting point is 01:07:25 sticks of dynamite and i set off this stick of dynamite and it was just boom And I just got stuck in the matrix. And, like, I can still see it if, like, I try to. And I had this epiphany about how the laws of motion affect all athletics. And all I could talk about from that point on was the laws of motion. And I instantly, like, overnight, just rambling, came up with this theory of, because, like, I already know a lot about how boats move through water. And I just had this theory of, like, oh, my God, if I can, I know how to break every world record.
Starting point is 01:07:57 And went nuts. And you're also like 5-3 at the time. No, I was a full fake 5-9 by then. But, you're like, I'm good at the end. But yeah, like my brain was on fire. I was speeding. I was tripping. And every time I blinked, I saw this technicolor infinity symbol.
Starting point is 01:08:15 So I was just trying not to blink. But for like a month and a half. For a month and a half? Yeah. And at one point were you ever like, should I go to the hospital? If I, if my parents weren't evangelical Christians, I definitely would have been locked up. They were trying to just prey it away. But, like, they would come home, and I would be face down on the floor of the kitchen with a golf ball bouncing it and be like, you'll never see a change directions.
Starting point is 01:08:41 You'll never see a change directions. And they're like, okay, like, but it always bounces to exactly the same height. It is like all this shit and doing like all my own fucking experiments. It was crazy. It got to the point that. Did you realize anything? About. So it's.
Starting point is 01:08:56 The loss of motion. The scary. thing is that I was right about a lot of it and I can't it's Pandora's box to me like there's a few people that that knew me from that time Jonathan Martin's one of them that like whenever they see me they try to get me to talk about and I don't want to because like I can fucking get like really ramped up about it okay is it kind of one of those things that when you trip like I have a friend you had a really bad trip and every now and then she'll like go there in her head and it's like scary does that happen to you ever uh not that in particular but like the reason that I'm not
Starting point is 01:09:28 a rowing coach is that I would I think it would I would get so obsessed with it and like I just start seeing this thing but it was to the point that I was in traffic tripping my tits off and just you know I was somewhere else and I'm driving a big ass truck rear-ended some lady and knocked her bumper off and I jumped out of the truck and proceeded to explain to her that there was a transfer from potential energy to kinetic energy, which created downward directional force that was met by the Earth's resistance. And I was so googly-eyed when I
Starting point is 01:10:03 did it that this lady just picked up her bumper and was like, okay, so I'm going to go. You, you, uh, you, you, you, good luck with your physics. Yeah. How'd you get out of it? Um,
Starting point is 01:10:20 out of that situation. It's weird, but it was. Or that specific psychotic. break? I mean, I prayed for the first time in my life, to be honest, and made a deal with God kind of thing. You hit rock bottom. What's that? You hit rock bottom. Yeah, and I made a deal that was like, you know, I'll stop drinking, drugging if you get me out of this one. And then I woke up and it was over and I was like, psych. And got back on that horse. But now, then it was like pretty soon after that.
Starting point is 01:10:55 So, I feel like I've literally just touched the iceberg with you, because you have issues. But, you know, we don't even know what's coming up here, but this is going to reveal. We're going to end with one final game, and it's called the Seven Deadly Sins. And normally I ask everyone about their Seven Deadly Sins. But for you guys, I'm going to have you each say what you think the other one's seven deadly sin is because it's kind of like a dating game, but if it was in hell. It's like a dating game, but it makes you break up instead. We're one for one with breakups in this. Are you really?
Starting point is 01:11:30 One couple's telling me the moment they almost got divorced and I was like, and they started fighting and I was like, okay, we're having fun. Let's play The Seven Deadly Sins. Seven Deadly Sins. Lisa, what do you think Richie is greedy about? Well, drinks. If I give him a drink, if, like, he takes, if he takes a drink of mine,
Starting point is 01:12:00 he's like, can I have a sip? Like, he'll drink the whole fucking thing, and I have nothing. Classic alcoholic. Yeah, that's right. I dated one and, like, ginger ale was like, he would chug ginger ale. He'd down, like, seven ginger ale. Who sips shit? I just need, like, a baby sip or something.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Hey, count down. Three, two, one. Oh, crush the Pepsi can. She's like, come down. You don't put a hole in the side? It's weird. Do you agree with her? that's pretty good yeah what do you think Lisa's greedy about fries
Starting point is 01:12:28 fries for sure yeah I mean that but you don't really eat fries though so like no ketchup actually oh my god I love ketchup that's true do you ever put mayonnaise and mix with ketchup sure with the fries okay good we'll have we'll have two thirds of a bottle of ketchup at the house and she's like we need more ketchup we're almost out but it could run out she needs a stockpile Richie who do you think Lisa's envy of. Dr. Evan Anton.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Oh, is he the hot vet? I once did like a Fox 5 thing and he was before me and I was like, I like can't. He's secret married. Like he never posts about his fiance. They're fianced, but he like refuses to post her. But he's all over. He's all over her page. That's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:13:21 If a dude wouldn't talk about me or show me. It is really weird. You're allowed to be hot and married. I know. But I think she kind of like produced him though also. Yeah, she works. No, she does. She works with him.
Starting point is 01:13:30 They produced together, but he still doesn't post her ever at all. She just tags him. I think she's orchestrating that. To be like I'm whatever. I think she's behind that. That's like like when you date a stripper, you don't go and talk to her at the club because you want her to have the illusion of availability.
Starting point is 01:13:44 You're right. Yeah, but she posts him all over her page. And then tags him. So she's like owning him. But girls that follow him are basically Johns. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:13:54 They're his johns. No, first of all, he's very nice. We were on an episode of Dr. Ross together. He was really nice. He was like, I saw your segment, you did great. But he's also, we're different because he does like exotics. And I do dogs and cats. So have your exotic, Evan.
Starting point is 01:14:10 Love you. You do animals we actually care about. Just kidding. Right, exactly. You're like, who cares about the koalas? Clearly no one does. Anyway, who do you think Richie is envious though? Oh, so many.
Starting point is 01:14:23 Those motherfuckers Like I have a lineup for you Yeah I mean I think I mean there's people I'm envious for him You know I think just like there's so many He really is a good person And he is also genuinely fucking hilarious He's the funniest person that I know
Starting point is 01:14:40 So I think like just The fact that he was on Cat Williams tour Is doing like 20,000 person crowds And now like What's next? Give a name No I don't know I just think any comic that Bill
Starting point is 01:14:53 I don't know. I mean, that's a, that's a throwback. Sure, we'll take that. Yeah, just, yeah, he wants that next step. Yeah. But I always say, it's like popcorn, you pop at different times. Yeah. You never know when you're going to pop.
Starting point is 01:15:10 Right. What is Richie gluttonous about? So this is, I guess it's... Different than his drinking? Yeah. Yeah, we kind of covered that. Yeah. He's so healthy.
Starting point is 01:15:23 Like, he's so everything. is like, you know, he's so sober now. So I think there's like, not a lot that you're like... Like a glutton, but for the Peloton? Yeah. Oh, my God, you're that guy in the Peloton commercial. It's Richie singing again. He's on the Peloton.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Yeah, definitely exercise. I mean, he exercises a lot. It's good that you've used your, um, addictive personality for positive things. Yeah. Oh, you have to. You're like, I'm addicted to love and working out. Oh, and cigarettes.
Starting point is 01:15:52 Do you smoke six? No. Except for when he imposes it on me, right? You make her smoke six? Yeah. That's some word fetish. In the beginning of our relationship. You're not getting out of bed, Missy.
Starting point is 01:16:02 When I was like, oh, yeah, I love working out for like the first six months and he would train me. And then past six months, I was like, stop telling me what to do. That's what you just got real. What is Lisa gluttonous about besides French fries? I'm a Scorpio, anything worth doing is worth overdoing. What's your sign? Cusping Libby.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Oh my God, you're adorable. Why do you think you two are good together? Can you just, can we like cover that? You know, we talked about this actually a lot on girls got to eat. I was going to say before when you were saying that you're so busy and I was going to say being busy is good. And I talked a lot about that because we definitely went through some struggles. Like when he was on the cat tour and girls would send him naked pictures. And, you know, and then there was just like a learning curve of like what was.
Starting point is 01:16:49 Those girls are also known as angels in the business. Doing God's work I cared a lot more back then But then I Part of it was then I just I got so busy with my own shit I just like stopped caring And I just like it's like whatever now
Starting point is 01:17:04 You know like I I think we get along really well I mean he really is like I think that's friend And I know it's okay Intermix that's what she's plugged this for I mean he's funny He's just he's always easy to be around
Starting point is 01:17:16 And my mom always said about my father Like even if I fell out of love with him I always knew I could be with him because I like him as a person, you know? Yeah, there's so many couples where I'm like, they love each other, but they don't like each other. I mean, he's, I think definitely being sober is a big part of it. You know, being sober in comedy because it is like a lifestyle.
Starting point is 01:17:35 But yeah, no, I think he's a good person. So I think that's. I like that she was like, I think he's good. Yeah, you got to qualify. Yeah. Got to hedge your bets. Why do you think he's? Because so many people try to say, oh, like, be careful of dating a comic.
Starting point is 01:17:49 Like, you know, in the beginning they're all like, but I'm like, actually, He's like 10 times mentally more stable than I am. But I also feel like it's worse when two comics are dating. It's the comics. You can't have two headshots in one relationship. Yeah. And like it's the comics that are saying don't date comics.
Starting point is 01:18:05 So that's what I would tell another female comic. Yeah. No, I would answer that by saying that. Like you guys are great together in my eyes and that you have such different interests. Like you come home from a rough set and you get to deal with this. Imagine having to deal with someone. And I was like, why I just crushed at the sand or something? You're like, didn't you shut the fuck up?
Starting point is 01:18:25 Let's produce a show called Rough Sets. Rough Sets. That's really good. Dude. Wow. Okay, guys. If you think that's a good idea, DM us. Cain it.
Starting point is 01:18:38 He just have a bit about me, though, when I was, I mean, I was meeting with Bravo when I was blowing up with that cat and, like, all that we've pitched a show around the house call business. So he's got a bit about resenting that. Yeah. No, I would say the reason that we have, we have like an understood kind of like, there's a smart humor to us. But you're going to be like, we have rules to this relationship. Which, by the way, for a great decoder ring for online dating is that whenever a girl says that she's sapio-sexual, you're going to smash on the first night for sure.
Starting point is 01:19:16 What is that? Somebody who's attracted to anything. Intelligence. No, it's like, no, it's like... I was like, homosexual means you want to fuck anything? No, it's like, I mean, intellectually turned on, you're going to fuck. Yeah. So, okay, wait, moving on.
Starting point is 01:19:35 I just want to, I like hearing that because it's so beautiful and romantic to hear people say, like, kind of what works. Vomit. Yeah, but also, today to comic, you have to really good sense of humor, but a certain kind of sense of humor. Yeah, and then get jaded. I remember once I was at a comedy show and, I was watching somebody. I was sitting next to like somebody's friend of the comic who was on me. He was like, why aren't you laughing?
Starting point is 01:19:56 And I'm like, oh, like my boyfriend's a comic. I'm just like, sort of chain. And he was like, that's really sad. Yeah, once I dated a comic who would never laugh, he would just go, that's funny to everything I'd say. And I was like, can we get a giggle? Can we get a giggle? Motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:20:11 Anyway, but I was like, thank you. Yeah. There's a girl in college that we called the Fun Sponge that we never heard her laugh. She would just be like, that is so fun. it was until you squeegeed up all that excess fun i wasn't a comic at the time so like i just wanted to like tell a story and like get a little affection or you'd be like why don't end your stories have like points to them and i'm like i don't have punchlines yet okay we're not there yet workshopping um when is the last time that lisa experienced extreme wrath or anger
Starting point is 01:20:44 that she yeah when was last time Lisa got pissed uh this morning yeah what I get pissed at everything. Well, no, at the, this former employer that gave her this awesome opportunity, which is that, hey, you know, you can be on your own now. And it's, there's, there's all this money that's going to be made and we're going to help you out. And then they're like, yeah, we're not actually doing any of that. So at least three times a week, I'm here saying like, I fucking hate them so much. Yeah. I'm running on piss.
Starting point is 01:21:12 But I just do. I mean, I'm super type A, like crazy. And you're a Scorpio. Yeah, I'm hot. I am a Scorpio rising. Is that what I'm on, I am in the cuspaction. I'm a Libra and a Scorpio. Once somebody explained to me that Libra is actually,
Starting point is 01:21:27 I thought Libra's were like balanced and all about balance. Somebody explained it to me that once that Libra's need balance. And so I was like, oh, maybe I am more of a Libra than I thought. But I'm definitely a type A because you want to be in that like equilibrium. I thought that scale was just for weighing out drugs. I mean, I do that too. They got the quad beam, man. When was the last time Richie got mad?
Starting point is 01:21:46 Never. He's the most even fucking killed. Really? Because I know a lot of comics who have, like, terrible anger. No, he is the most even, I, we couldn't, that wouldn't work with us. I can't deal with dudes who have anger. No, well, also that. But I also, I have, I have anger, so.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Well, it's actually enough for the both of us. It's a funny thing that I've had in relationships, past ones of girls being upset because I don't get mad. Yeah, I can see that. Like, as if you don't care enough. I can see that. Right, but it's when. It's like, a guy doesn't get jealous a little. I'm like, do you just, do you even care?
Starting point is 01:22:19 In moments of, in like extreme moments where like things are heightened and angry, I can, I have this thing that it's like, I know this is going to be funny. You know, that it's like, I just kind of like, like, do you laugh during sex? Huh? What? I mean, it depends how many clowns there are. I mean, it depends on how many clowns there are, but, but no, like, like, there's something that I know it's like, like, what this is. Like a bigger picture. Yeah, once this is removed.
Starting point is 01:22:50 And you've kind of like been through a lot of shit. And also that I think there's a way of like if I'm at my best and like really on the beam and like balance that you can treat somebody that's angry as anger is like a drug. So it's like you're just not sober right now. That is how it is. Like you're on one. Yeah. And you're just like you're angry because you're not being logical. And you're trying to win but you're not going to win.
Starting point is 01:23:17 Wow. That was really beautiful. Definitely waited me out like that. Do you guys think you fight well? We've learned to. Yeah. Because I think fighting well is important. It's not about not fighting.
Starting point is 01:23:27 It's knowing how to fight. Yeah. We had to put the brakes on that you can't say, you know, like there's no more I want to divorce. Yeah. You can't threaten to kick him out. Yeah, I haven't said that. And that was, by the way, me saying that.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Yeah. But so I haven't said that. Bitch, I'm on the least. I'm not going anywhere. Bitch, you don't even have a ring. Yeah. He pre-promises me that the podcast is. is better than a ring.
Starting point is 01:23:51 Honestly, it's a big... We own iTunes, boo. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Richie, why aren't you? Why not? What's the ring? What's happening? Man, it's been so nice.
Starting point is 01:24:02 You want to get your finances together? But you guys can follow me. Everything is at Richie's ready. You know what? That's the thing, though. I mean, I'm not... I still feel like we need to figure out what we want to be when we grew up.
Starting point is 01:24:15 I don't know. They could be totally wrong. That's kind of like having a baby. Because you also are like... let's figure it out slowly. I have so much to do. I have so much to do. There's two more sister wives we still have to find.
Starting point is 01:24:25 Right. I need somebody to take care of my baby. It's so in New York City to be like, honestly, I'm too busy to get engaged. You know, so many people are like, I'm too busy to break up. I have no desire to. Like, it's exhausting to break up. I have no desire to plan a wedding or like that just sounds terrible. You guys have the cutest apartment.
Starting point is 01:24:39 Like you've got like the important things. I mean, that's what it looks like, but things are, it's tough sometimes. Living together? No, no, no. Just like life. It's just obnoxious New York rent. Yeah, yeah, it's hard, yeah. It is.
Starting point is 01:24:53 It looks good, though. And you know what? In a couple months, you're going to be, like, killing the game. Like, I mean, I'm your client. Oh, I don't know. I'm so excited to get butter. Got that butter money rolling in. I love that highlight so much.
Starting point is 01:25:07 When was the last time Richie was a sloth? So, like, a lazy piece of shit. He's not that either. He's just not. Really? He's really not. He's really not. He sleeps later than probably is.
Starting point is 01:25:18 It's healthy for me. Yeah, lately it's been earlier. It's been early and earlier. Yeah. I really do have you. Do you take off days? What do you mean? Days where you're like, we're saying in, we're watching sister wives.
Starting point is 01:25:30 Yeah. Everyone's, yeah. For sure. Once a week. Who is more like productive? She is. Am I? At least you're insanely fucking busy.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I just do things because I like, I do them. Yeah. And I don't feel like. You're not like I'm being productive. You're just like, all my anxiety will be through the roof. I have to do it. Like I have, they're just things. that like I have she feels like a hundred calls during the day
Starting point is 01:25:51 I don't know and I feel like four yeah but you're he's much better about like getting up being in a routine like getting like writing in the morning and then going to the gym and like doing that stuff like if I had the day off like I will just if I really don't have anything to do I will just sit on the couch and do nothing sounds amazing yeah I like yeah I'm all or nothing I'm either like the craziest I've ever had or like I'm underneath my bed crying do you guys who's messier oh that's lippy do you get do you get so messy because of that yeah because I'm dealing in summer house Kyle and Amanda their whole thing is like Amanda's messy and Kyle like can't fucking deal with it
Starting point is 01:26:29 but he cheated on her but he like can't deal with her messy man I've never seen a dude get raked over the cold so much about kissing somebody maybe kissing somebody like no he cheated on her before that okay yeah that was his second little oh yeah how's Jordan is he's totally not gay What's happening there? He's going to be back. You guys need to watch the second season. Oh, I know. It's really good.
Starting point is 01:26:49 Let it build up. Yeah. And then you go up through it. Yes, I'm totally straight. I just, I got Botox when I was 19 because of a car accident. And now I'm just the most solid after Bachelor of New York City. That was a really good voice.
Starting point is 01:27:02 I like how you pursed your lips to. There's a little bit of vocal fry, you know, and you have to, you have to say it with your eyebrows, too. If you could move your eyebrows, that is, because they're frozen. They're frozen in place. okay um final question who are your guys's celebrity crushes like when was the last time you lusted over someone besides each other you grant am i right um what's his name paul paul red i've always i mean paul wood and he ages well yeah he's aged well like a fine wine not like there's anybody else not yeah you don't have to do more than one but you can if you want
Starting point is 01:27:43 No, I think that's... I'm going to have to go with bad baby. Who's that? That's hilarious. Cash me outside. How about that? Someone said on Twitter that I look like the cash me outside girl when I first went on Summerhouse. And I was like, honestly, I don't know what she all was talking about, but I can do my thing.
Starting point is 01:28:04 Yeah, that girl's like, she's doing pretty well. Funny. That was a good answer. Thank you. How often do you guys have sex a week? It really depends. Like right now. I'm so fucking crazy, but I think like...
Starting point is 01:28:16 So 10. Like once to twice, it depends on the week. It really depends. Yeah, I mean, I have way more sex than she does. Yeah, I think, yeah, once to twice, something like that. And then, you know, there's definitely, I mean, it's never, we've never gone a year without having sex. What? I said, we've never gone a year without having sex.
Starting point is 01:28:39 What the fuck are you talking about? Who goes a year without having sex? I touch his dick. I never went six months ago, I'll touch you his dick, okay? There's going to be some charges at our apartment if you go here. And you're calling all, but. Yeah, we do have really opposite schedules, though,
Starting point is 01:28:58 which can make it difficult. And I'm under so much. But Jewish girls are great with the oral game, so that's... There's a lot of thing. I think so. I think it starts at camp. It's what they do at camp. That's what they all love camp so much.
Starting point is 01:29:12 Still can't swim, for sure. shit. Ride a horse and suck a dick. Horse stick. So I think I like to wrap it up with the same question, which is, what advice would you give to my listeners, my little devils, on how to cope with your hell or your relationship hell, either or? My advice for coping with your relationship hell is just to get your own fucking life,
Starting point is 01:29:38 to get busy, find something that you're passionate about and that, you know, like I knew when I was going through vet school, like that was something I would always have. Also, tip if you get a pet with your significant other, make sure ladies that you put the pet's name in your, sign a pream and put the pet's name in your, like the medical records in your name by the pet
Starting point is 01:29:58 because if there's like a divorce, that's how you keep that's the legal medical record. She's like, I have my name, so like when things don't work out, we're fine. You have to be prepared. And I say ladies,
Starting point is 01:30:08 I'm talking about ladies. Because you don't want to lose your baby. Right. You don't want to lose that. you don't lose your baby and the best way to do it is to put them in your name for anything because that's like the only legal document that you have with pets so that's the only right you have to them anyway get busy get your own life like find something that you're passionate about so you're not just like sitting home like being like I'm waiting for my his life to happen that's when
Starting point is 01:30:30 your mind can wander into bad places yeah I've never thought about this before but I think because I've just kept it so easy for you yeah so easy um find some somebody that you don't just want to fuck that you're also impressed by. Oh, I love that. I'm pretty impressive. No, I was talking about me. He's like, find a doctor.
Starting point is 01:31:01 But no, find somebody that you feel is impressive. I can tell that you guys, like, challenge each other and you're both, like, good at different things. And, like, I like what's happening because this is, like, a judgment thing. and I decided that I ship. You guys are amazing. Where can people follow you?
Starting point is 01:31:17 Where can people listen to you? So at Dr. Lisa Lipman. If you just put in Dr. Lisa, it usually comes up, DR, L-I-S-A. And I will ask me all your pet questions, all your pet tips. I'm teaching a pet first aid in CPR class.
Starting point is 01:31:31 It's cool for the dogs. And now have my very own house-call veterinary practice. If you need a house-call veterinarian in Manhattan or Brooklyn, I only go to Queens for Hannah. I was like, we have an issue, we have big issue. I'm, like, right over the bridge. I'm Long Island City.
Starting point is 01:31:46 Oh, oh, oh. I always forget Long Island City's queen. We're literally 10 minutes away. Long Island City is not really clean. Okay, so Long Island City, add that to your... The podcast is We Don't Deserve Dogs, and my handle for everything is at Richie Redding. Send them Nudes. That's not part of it.
Starting point is 01:32:01 The ending is not part of it. Stop at Richie Redding. But yeah, you guys should definitely listen to my episode. Hannah Burner, We Don't Deserved Dogs. Yes. But you guys have had some, like, amazing guests. I was looking at it today. it's it's such a good podcast thank you um thank you guys for coming to hell i feel like i
Starting point is 01:32:15 talk to you for another hour i love hell if you like this subscribe rate review whatever five stars you know what to do i love you guys i'll talk to you later bye

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