Berner Phone - Wedding Traditions That Need to End (with Kelsey Cook)

Episode Date: August 31, 2026

Des is joined by guest and newlywed Kelsey Cook to discuss wedding traditions that need to end.   Watch Kelsey's new special HAPPY HOUR on Netflix!   FOLLOW KELSEY: Tickets: https://punchup.live/kelseycook/tour Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kelseycookcomedy/ Pretend Problems Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/pretend-problems/id1717496693   Call [phone] to leave us a voicemail! International Dialers can leave us a voice memo on WhatsApp: [phone]   FOLLOW DES: Tickets: https://punchup.live/desbishop Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/desbishop Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/desbishop X: https://x.com/desbishop YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@Desbishopcomedy TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@desbishop5   FOLLOW NICOLE: https://www.instagram.com/nicoleclyons/   Produced by Nicole Lyons Productions Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nicolelyonsproductions/ Website: www.nicolelyonsproductions.com

Hi, it's Hannah Burner and Des Bishop. Thanks for calling the burner phone. If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast. Hello, our little dialers and welcome to Burnaphone. I even already feel weird because we have a guest. I was self-conscious of our intro because we have a guest today. Kelsey Cook is with us. Oh my gosh.

Hello. Thank you for having me. So Kelsey has a new special out on Netflix And we actually We got word that you know You were doing press And we were like awesome You know?

Because we're not organized enough To have guests normally You know Even though Even though now that we have Nicole Nicole Nicole is Nicole is whipping this podcast

Into shape in terms of organization So really we should have guests on more But we're on you know You're only I think you're only The fourth guest ever on Burnaphone Oh my God. Thank you. Yeah, you know, Chad and I, Chad and I have our podcast pretend problems that we've been doing for maybe like two and a half years now. And we've still never had a guest because it's just, it is a lot of like logistics and we just shoot it here in our house. And if you're not a typical guest podcast, I know that we would feel so like fish out of water if we had a guest on. We wouldn't even know what to do. It's a totally different thing. I wasn't even thinking about the fact that you're another married comedian couple. I know. But this was, this was Hannah and I. And then Hannah was, Hannah was, Hannah jumped up the amount of Giggly Squad episodes. So it became, it became a solo enterprise. So that's something that perhaps you guys will have to deal with in the future.

Well, you know what's wild? So Chad has, he has his other podcast called Middle of Somewhere with Cy Amundsen that he's had for years and years. And I'm always like, how are you doing? How are you doing too? And I know, Squat is like this major entity. So Hannah doing that and this and all the other things she does. I mean, that had to have been a lot going on at once. Yeah. So anyway, needless to say, we're glad that you're here. We're glad that we have another, another married comedian couple person. Even though that isn't the theme of today's episode, you just got married. We got married four days ago. Yeah. So when Hannah told me that, because I do follow you on Instagram, but somehow, That slipped by that you just got married. And when Hannah told me you just got married, because I said, oh, Kelsey Cook is doing the podcast, I need a theme.

And she said, well, she just got married like three days ago. And I was like, what kind of post-wedding situation is this that you're doing podcasts four days after you got married? This is so crazy. So, you know, when you plan a wedding, you set the date out a ways in advance. and then Netflix was like, hey, here's your special date. And it was five days before the wedding. So this has been, my past week has been that my Netflix special came out and I got married. So it's been like, hands down the best week of my life and also such an unnatural amount of like adrenaline in my body.

I mean, it's, it's just like constant stuff going on. So it's been, it's been amazing, but a lot. Okay, so here's the bigger question. What was more important for you? You're not the first person to ask. Okay, here I'm sorry. Sorry, damn it. I know the answer.

I mean, nothing is, I feel like Chad and I are so fortunate that like we have a good work-life balance, you know? Like nothing is more important to me than our relationship. and, you know, like our life outside of career stuff. But in terms of career stuff, there is nothing bigger that's happened in my life than getting a Netflix special. So it's like the biggest possible thing in both categories of my life, I guess.

Yes. And of course, Chad's special came out the week after Hannah special on Netflix a couple of years ago. So that's actually how I became aware of Chad Daniels. For those that didn't know, we've been talking about Chad Daniels, another great comic. So good. And you know what?

I have to tell you, Chad goes, you have to say something to Des, and you know I like, I don't usually do stuff like this, but you have to tell him. I loved his special so much. And the bit about his name in Chinese had me like falling over. So, wow. Chad is very, like, he posts a ton about other comics he loves and stuff like that. But it's, it is a big deal for him to be like, okay, can you please, can you please tell him

something? You know, like, he really loves your stuff. Well, listen, we're in the middle age male comic space. Yes, yes. Yes. So anyway, you just got married. So funnily enough, I reached out to you originally say what topic, and I hadn't heard back. So we all just, Nicole, Hannah, and I all just decided that we'll just go with weddings because you just got married.

And literally, as I was typing the Instagram, you messaged me back and said, I just got married. Let's talk about weddings. So we're all on the same page. It's meant to be. Yeah. I was going to play a message in because I had a, have you ever, this is not related to weddings, Kelsey, have you ever. had a sold-out gig of yours canceled by the venue. Has that ever happened to you?

Oh, yes. I've had a couple weird things like that. One was not sold out, and one, I believe it was, there was like a technology issue in the entire building that the comedy club was in, like their POS system was down so they wouldn't have been able to take any orders, the whole show. And so that got canceled. And then I, I don't know if you've ever performed at the, the Syracuse Funny Bone.

I have. Okay. So, you know, it's in a mall. And the show was about to start. And then the manager came back to the green room and said, there's an active shooter in the mall. Oh, okay. And so it was like one of the most terrifying experiences in my life. Because when you hear the words active shooter, you're picturing like trench coat, like.

Yeah. like that it's happening all over. It turns out it was like a gang related shooting. It was like one person and then done. But like you're still sitting. It's all a nightmare and terrifying. And so I was like, okay, well, what's happening? He's like, well, the mall's being evacuated and we'll like figure out, you know, whatever

save us for you. But do you still want to do the show? I was like, no. Okay. And then he like did the god mic and he was like, Kelsey has let us know that she doesn't want to perform. I'm like, there's a shooting. Like, this isn't, don't make this that I'm like being difficult.

I'm like, this would be insane if I like held these people here hostage when there's a shooting that just happened. So afterward, I found out, I like Googled it. And when you Google that mall, it's like shooting, shooting, shooting, there's a shooting at that mall like every month. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. So the fact that you were there. All the people that were there were like, whatever, dude. It's just a Saturday.

For real. Well, the manager was very, and I think he was like ex-military. He was just like, this is just like, this is a Tuesday here. Like, this is not whatever. This is, to him, it was nothing to me. I was absolutely losing my mind. This is disappointing because my thing is really uneventful. However, the reason why I brought up, no, the reason why we brought up is I got a message

about it. Nicole, can you play this first? Because this is, this is my way of letting people know that I'm not happy about it. Go ahead. Okay, okay. Hi, Des. I just wanted to randomly call you starting my dogs a dick. I just wanted to say how pissed off I was that your Friday show got canceled in Pasadena.

However, thank the Lord. I was able to get BIP for the next day, so we'll see you in Irvine. But booze to these freaking places canceling for no freaking reason. You're sold-out comic man. But happy that I still get to see you in a month. So have a great day. Thanks for the laugh. See you. So anyway, I had two sold-out shows, to be honest with you. On Friday's house? Friday, October 2nd.

Okay. And they canceled it. Will I say, I don't want to get you, I don't want to get you in trouble. Do you have a good relationship with them? Oh, I haven't been there in a million years, but you're fine. Okay, so let me tell you, let me tell you why they canceled it. I'm going to say it. Okay. Okay. It's not going to be a secret. Because funny AF wanted to film.

That's why they canceled it. That sucks. That is really shitty. Oh, it's pissed off, bro. Two sold out shows. Two sold out. This is the thing. Two sold out.

Two sold out shows. And I had, yeah, anyway, we're not, I won't, because I don't want to get you in trouble, and I don't want to get myself in trouble, but I was pissed. And, by the way, this person who, also Instagram DM me, so I actually know who this is, that message in On Voice. I've had numerous messages of people being pissed off.

And I'm like, yo, I'm pissed off too, including one couple from Shanghai, a Chinese couple who were on, they're going to be on their honeymoon. And they had booked the show. So she's saying good things I got to the next night. But that's because I'm in the Irvine Improv, the next night. It's nothing to do with the Ice House. Right, right, right. Nothing to do with them.

So for anybody who's listening, who was planning to go to that show, it ain't me. It ain't me. God. And I'm glad of your reaction because I was fuming and I felt like, am I overreacting here? Because like, obviously people try to calm you down to people, you know, they're like, listen, bumps do happen. And I understand they do happen. And like, there have been times in my career where I am not selling somewhere. And I am glad to be bumped.

I'm like, please, do me a favor. Get me out of this difficult situation. Yes, thank God. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're just begging for a bump. You're like, please. Give me out of Syracuse. Yeah, I'm not going to speak out of Syracuse.

I actually drove to that. I drove to that gig. When I did it, I drove and drove back the same night. See, that's the beauty of living in New York. It's like there are so many driveable road gigs. If you're just like flying in. I mean, this was like years ago at this point. I'm sure it's all fine when there aren't shootings happening.

But everybody I've checked in with about this, including people that work at the comedy cellar, a couple of places that I've checked in the last couple of days, everybody's reaction has been the same as mine. So I'm like, okay, at least I'm not crazy. Like a sold-out show doesn't get like, and by the way, I totally appreciate that they want the opportunity to get their venue on what. ended up being an extremely successful Netflix show. I 100% get that.

But I can promise you that the way they reacted was in a way of suggesting like I should have absolutely no problem with it in a way that I was like, what? Like, no. Anyway, that's the end of that. Oh, I'm sorry. It's been established off air, I'll tell you what's even more frustrating about it. But we won't get anybody in trouble. But what we will do, I put out.

the prompt of wedding traditions and engagement traditions that need to go. So let's get right into it because if we start talking about it, we'll talk about all the ones because the top five came in hot. Nicole, I leave it up to you. Hi, my name is Sarah. One wedding tradition that I think needs to go is when your wedding party enters into your reception. Why are we making this into a NBA, interest to a game. So we announce every couple that's coming in, they have to make up their own routine, their own jumps, their own flips.

It almost always is poorly. So why are we making people do this? I think that I've done at least three or four of my own where I've entered him. It always makes me feel massively awkward. I think we need to get rid of them. Just let the people that have already had to pay to be in your wedding. just let him sit down. Just let them eat their food.

Let's get rid of it, please. Oh, I can tell. Our dialers are funny. No, our dialers are funny. They're very funny. Yeah, I mean, this is clearly somebody over 30 because, like, her energy, I feel it in my bones where she's like, let the people who have agreed to do this

sit down and eat a meal. Like, yes, that is absolutely what the priority should be. It's like, we've done enough. We're in heels. We're wearing this weird-ass dress that you asked us to buy that we will only be wearing one time. We don't want to also, like, do some sort of weird electric slide into a room where nobody gives a fuck about us anyway. Like, I mean, the fact that Hannah can do the worm so well, she must be in, like, a very small percentage of the world who people would actually want to see enter a wedding. and like, because she can do that dance.

The rest of us are just like doing an awkward shimmy and just being like, okay, like, let's not do this. Yeah. So I have to say that's a very American thing, the big entrance. Oh, yeah, yeah. In Ireland, they don't do that. And like, obviously when I was younger, I went to some American weddings, but then like, you know, I spent my adult life in Ireland

where I just kind of forgot. And then when I came back here and I started going to a few weddings, I was like, I find that whole thing super cringe. I find the big like involved DJ super cringe. Like I don't need. I mean, okay, but I'm 100% happy with a moment of like, let's give a hand for the bride and groom as they enter. You know, like Hannah and I did do like a little entrance, but it wasn't like huge. Did you, did you do it?

What did you do for you? You had a small thing, did you? We had such a small thing. So it is both mine and Chad's second wedding. So we've already like both of us, when we were younger, had like more of a big, you know, traditional wedding. Traditional. Right. So we've done that before. And now it's like, yeah, once you've done that before and now you're older, there just are so many aspects to it where we're like, okay, these were the parts that we didn't like about the more traditional wedding.

here are the things we want to keep. So we literally, we had 20 people. It was just our immediate family. And we'll do like kind of a bigger, I think, reception at some point with all of our friends. But we, it was like the most informal, very few traditions. The ceremony was done in like seven minutes. Yeah, that's the way to do it. And then we all went to dinner at one of our favorite restaurants. Like it was, it just was about, we just wanted the people. We just wanted the people. that we like love so much to be there and get to interact with them, but also get to interact with each other. Like, I think if you have a really big wedding, sometimes you end up spending that day, like having to put in FaceTime with all the people who came. And you barely get to

feel connected to the person you're actually marrying. And we wanted it to just feel different in that way. Yeah, it's like a political fundraiser. Oh my God, a lot of like shaking hands kissing babies. Yes, it absolutely can have that vibe. Nicole, are you taking notes here just in case you guys, you know, make some plans? Yeah, I feel like I've been to so many weddings lately. We talked about this recently. I'm sure we're going to get to it, but there's so many things on my list that I'm like, okay, not for me, not for me, not for me. Won't be doing an entrance and the festivalness of weddings where it's like the multi-day

situation. That's probably the biggest thing I want to avoid. Play. There's one there. There's one there, Nicole. Play it. There's one there for that one. Which one is it? It's the next day. Let people go home. Yeah. Let people go. Quit holding them hostage. I've been dying to give my opinion on this. But if you're asking about wedding traditions that need to go, normalize letting people go home. The morning after the wedding, I don't want to do a brunch, especially because I think, probably got here early for some type of rehearsal dinner, welcome drink thing. Let people go home. That's all.

Thank you. So I'm conflicted on that. I'll let you guys speak on this first, and then I'll give my opinion, because I have mixed emotions on this sentiment. Okay. I think you can, like, invite people to whatever you want to invite them to, but it has to be known that, like, this is not a mandatory thing. I think once the wedding's done, people are off the hook.

Anything after that is like, this is just bonus if you still want to keep hanging out with us. Do that. What do you think, Nicole? Yeah, I think that's like a cute way of looking at it. I think it's the reason this whole thing bothers me is because it's just added on top of everything else that you're asked to do. And it's like, okay, now I have to, you know, plan my accommodations for X number of nights. It's like a lot of it is like a money thing too where it's like you're expecting this is okay. for everybody. I need a new outfit for all of these events. So, you know, I think it definitely,

like, sets the mood. The brunch we can totally do away with. I feel like the welcome drinks maybe can keep. But yeah, that's definitely, I get, like, tied up with like, okay, people have to take off work. It's a lot of money. Yes. I feel, I feel like a little bit, it kind of came out of destination wedding culture. Like, destination weddings became a thing, I feel like in the late 90s, 2000s. Maybe I'm wrong on the timing. Maybe I just got to an age where you start becoming aware weddings. But I feel like there was a time where a lot of people were doing destiny. It had like a moment. And like at the destination wedding, you like organize events because like people are away. And then it's like a fun thing. But then because like I have felt over the last like

whatever, I mean, I'm 50 like the last 30 years of being aware of weddings. I feel like that the extra day thing has like grown and grown and grown. But I, I think they're great fun, but I 100% think people need to know. And I always did think that people knew that they were not compulsory. I thought that was like, but do people feel obligated? Is that what's going on here? I don't know. I think it depends how big the wedding is. Like I think you don't want to be one of the only people to not do it and then be looked at like, oh, like, right. It's be fucking weird. you know. Yeah. But also speaking of brunch stuff, have you guys, I've been hearing more and more about this that people are having brunch weddings where rather than everything taking place at night,

they're taking place like kind of in the morning and then the reception is a brunch and people like day drink and whatever. But then they have the rest of the day and night to do what they want and kind of sleep off the booze. I'm like, that's so interesting. I never, I feel like that's a more laid-back vibe. That's what they do in China. The Chinese weddings are way earlier, actually. Oh, okay. But fun fact, Hannah and I nearly had a moment of madness where we were going to get married in the summer of 2021, because we met in the summer of 2020. We're engaged in February of 2021. And we were going to quickly get married. And I might as well, I'm going to out, I'm going to out us right now. One of our motivations was it was still COVID-y so you could get away with, like not

inviting a lot of people. We were just like, we were basically, we were looking to use COVID as like a cover for like just not having to get into like all the big wedding crap. But yeah, I don't think there was anything wrong with that. Our idea was we were going to have a brunch wedding, small and afternoon.

And it was going to be like a brunch buffet. And it was going to be done by like five o'clock. That's, we were actually going to do that. And I believe, I, I, I'm a fan. I think this is a great idea. But I'm a non-drinker. Well, so are we now.

We could quit drinking like two and a half years ago. Together? Yeah, but not, that wasn't what we thought was going to happen. We both just, we were going to like take a break from drinking together. And we just thought it would be for like a few weeks or something. But then more and more things kept coming up that we would usually drink at. Like there was going to be a concert we were going to and then a wedding. And so we would be like,

oh okay are we gonna are we gonna drink at the concert and they were like well maybe let's just try not and see how it goes and we ended up having a great time and then we didn't feel like shit the next day and so we were like oh okay and it kind of snowballed and snowballed to where like the longer you put that time in then you're almost competitive with yourself where you're like well fuck like what like what would it take to break this streak like what is worth starting back over on this number so now it's just, and now we just don't drink anymore. But it's probably, it's like the best we've ever felt. You do get to a point where you're like, it is hard to go back.

I don't know. I mean, I did it because I was destroying my life as an alcoholic, but you're doing it like a fucking duolingo streak. I know. You got your duolingo streak going on your non-boozing, you know? That's so funny. Chad also has like a four-year something crazy duolingo streak. So he really is that person where he's like, once this.

starts it does not stop. Yeah, the problem is if you lose the streak, the problem is if you lose the streak, then you're like, well, fuck it now it doesn't matter. That everything goes straight. You better not break the streak. Yes, anyway, so the other thing about, so Hannah and I, because people were coming from Ireland, like I had my friends over from Ireland, like a lot of people did travel for our wedding.

So we did do everything we're talking about. We did a rehearsal dinner, but the rehearsal dinner was a very small invite list. This was kind of like just the closest family. and then the day after it was a very casual, no expectation, food truck event that ended up being way more fun for Hannah and I. But I think a lot of people, a lot of people will say probably that, oh, I really enjoyed the next day because the pressure of the wedding was over. And Hannah and I did definitely. But we also enjoyed the after party. So we didn't even book it.

We just told a bar up the street from our wedding that we're telling everyone that we're going to be. going here. We didn't like book it. Okay. So like we just basically took over this bar and that was actually more fun for Hannah and I, you know, because the wedding, wedding was over. And I don't know, maybe like 20, 30% of the people that were at their wedding came, like the younger people came. And Hannah ended up like dancing on the bar at John Scott's in West Hampton. And it was like, it was good fun. But there was like, there's like, there's like random people there. So there was like, yeah, there's like a couple of like fans of Hannah. ended up at Hannah's wedding. Well, highlight of their year for sure.

What are you doing tonight? It's like getting married. You're at our wedding. You didn't know. Here you are. Rare Hannah drunk too. Hannah was drunk. Just singing and dancing on the bar.

Oh my God. That's awesome. Yeah. And actually, can I give a hate message to Google photos? Did anyone go through this period of time where Google photos became their became their standard photo app. I didn't realize I made this decision. And then suddenly I was getting these messages

being like your photos are full. And then eventually I realized, oh, it's Google Photos. So I canceled my Google Photos. And I lost like nine months of photos and videos, including the night of my wedding. Oh, yeah. Now, obviously there's plenty of footage,

but I lost my, like I don't have the videos of Hannah and my little cousin Bella, like up on the bar, fucking being crazy. Like, I don't have those. And Bella, coincidentally, you know, Bella doesn't drink anymore either. So when I want to bring up her drinking days,

I don't even have the evidence to show her. Oh, damn. That's two people on blast. Two people on blast on this episode, man. Anyway, let's take another one, Nicole. Hi, Des and Kelsey. A tradition I do think I love now is small weddings, no bridal party, no bridal party.

just one little wedding. Everybody is of importance. And that's it. All right, guys. Have a great day. Bye. Yeah. I, you know, I don't get the bridal party thing anyway.

You know? I know. I couldn't agree with this one more. Even on my first wedding, which was a little bit bigger, I didn't do, we didn't do like formal bridal party groomsmen stuff like that because it, it does feel like, you know, I'm sure this has been said a million times, but like the MySpace top 10 where you're like ranking your friends. It's like, how old are we? This feels so middle school to be like, you're my maid of honor. You're going to stand right behind her because you're my number two. It's like,

ew, that just feels I would hate to like know where I rank with my best friends. Like you just want it to be like, yeah, you're one of my best friends. Come be in my wedding. I don't like the ranking of it. That feels gross to me. Yeah, we didn't do it either. And I, I was very happy not to have to make those decisions, you know? Yeah. Actually, there's an ad joke to this, Nicole, which is the asking, like, the siblings. Yeah, play that one because it's kind of connected. An engagement tradition that absolutely needs to be retired is having to have your significant other's siblings in your bridal party.

I'm now up to 10 bridesmaids because his family wanted me to include them. And it's just so much. And we're not close. And they're, you know, so much younger than the rest of the group. And it's just a pain. And I just don't think that it should be necessary. Yeah, I mean, I agree. Honestly, I hate the families that just put some.

much importance on the event of the wedding. It's so archaic. It's so like back in the day, like back in the day weddings were literally financial transactions, you know, like, whether it was like in the, you know, the royal shit or lower downs like, you know, who's getting what land and different things. But like that doesn't exist anymore. Why are we getting involved in the way that these families do? And why do people care? You know, some people really care. Like this shit creates major drama in families over decisions that are made. 100% yeah. I do feel like a lot of like mother-in-law figures or mother of the bride get,

they treat it like it's their wedding. Like they want to live vicariously through the kids. And it's tough though because then it's like financially, you know that sometimes parents are paying for certain amounts of things. And then I feel like they are entitled, like they think that they're entitled to a level of control within the weddings. They're like, well, I'm paying for this and I'm paying for this. So it's like, kind of my wedding too.

And you're like, well, no, it's fucking not. But okay. It's like you just get, I've seen that happen before for sure. And I don't have kids. So I don't know what it's like. But I do, I do think sometimes I guess you can discount how much of a big event it is for the parents. So I guess, I guess that's a conflict with the parents of like,

you don't want them involved because it's your, special day. But then at the same time, the parents that want to be involved, they're probably thinking, like, you exist because of me. So, you know, but I, I, I don't have kids. So I'm like, I'm always going to take the side of like, nah, just don't be involved. I didn't have any, we didn't have any of this drama from my side. Same. Same. Like, I don't have kids. They're out of the picture. They did. No, my parents. So I didn't have to worry about, like, my parents. So, I didn't have to worry about my parents. And Hannah's parents were not like, They didn't, they didn't care.

Like any of Hannah's parents' friends that they would have wanted at the wedding, Hannah wanted that at the wedding too. You know, like the people that like, the childhood stuff that like matters. So like we didn't have any of that. But I've definitely seen it where the families that like think this is a hugely important event, that it's just. I wonder what the statistics are on weddings that last where like the families were heavily involved. I wonder is there any correlation?

That's fascinating. I would love to know that. It's not an easy start, I would imagine, where you're like the day that's supposed to be representative of like, okay, it's supposed to be this amazing thing. And it's just full of nightmare stress. It's a tough. That's why we wanted it to be so small and just like chill because it's like this is supposed to be this great thing. And a lot of the time people turn it into something that they dread because of the stress of it. You may have heard about Built as the loyalty program that lets you earn points on rent wherever you live.

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then head to Rula.com. That's R-U-L-A-com. and take the first step. All right, let's take a few more, Nicole. Hi, Doug and Kelsey. One tradition we need to leave in the frickin' past is long speeches. What are we doing? No one in this day and age has any type of attention span.

I've had four weddings the past four weekends in a row, and every single speech gets longer and longer. Give me two, maybe three minutes tops. Start with a little intro. give me a joke in the middle. Finish with the tears. Like, I'm done with this. Stop talking.

No one cares. I'm so funny. I've literally said something very similar. It's like, you know, a couple giggles, a bit of emotion. Let's fucking go. Move on. The recipe for a good speech. I need you to open strong.

I need you to close with tears. I love that she's like writing these speeches. That's amazing. I have to point out that. I actually had a few speeches at my wedding because the speeches are a big speeches are a bigger thing in Ireland like the there's more expectations of speeches at an Irish wedding that's the one bit of tradition that I brought but my people were on a strict time limit and both of my people blew the light my brother and my

cousin because my cousin Sheneid who's basically like my Irish sister like like like deep deep deep like really like an Irish sister yeah because because I like grew up there she she wanted to say and and she said great stuff but she blew the light and so did my brother mike how long are we talking like how long were these speeches that wasn't that bad but like i was very adamant that like it was like three minutes you know yeah yeah they blew the light you know and like hannah always talks about the story like at a her wedding when des his brother is talking he's i'm just like looking at my phone being like fuck man i fucking told him but honestly you know because it was like This was the one thing that I also, like, I insisted in the wedding of like, I just, I like, I like, I actually like speeches. I hate long ones. I 100% concur with this dialer. This is not in any way, shape, or form disagreeing with them. But I do love them. I love the emotion and I love the laughs. But they have to be short, particularly when most of the people suck. But obviously, we were coming, we were coming with a high standard. By the way, did you say anything?

at your wedding? Did I? No. Either one. Like a toast? Yeah, like anything like that. No. We, Chad and I even did our vows privately.

We did those before the ceremony started because like so much of our life is public and like our, we have a podcast together where we like talk about a lot of relationship stuff. And even though we speak into microphones for a living, there is something about being up. there in the ceremony where even when you're doing like the ring exchange script back and forth, you feel a little, like you're just so aware, like your whole family's right there. It's not, you don't, at least for me, it doesn't feel like this normal, I'm just connecting and talking to my person. You're like, this is, this feels very performative.

And we wanted the vows to feel like we were actually just saying these really deep, important things to one another and not having it be kind of like a performance. performance. So it was like there were no speeches, no, like nothing like that. It was very, everything was like short and sweet. Hannah and I both made speeches out of our way. You did on top of the vows? Oh, that we, no, like we, we made speeches at the actual like the reception. Oh, like the reception. Yeah, like middle of the dance floor microphone. Oh my gosh. Okay. Was it, I'm sure it was great. Oh, yeah. We killed. We killed. Yeah. Yeah, it's like, that's funny.

I had a, I had, I had more laughs per, you know, like I had more laughs in my speech. But Hannah had the, Hannah had the bigger laugh because she said, and I've said this on the pod before, but, because all my buddies were over like all the guys I went to college with from Ireland. Yeah, yeah. With us all week. It was like, you know, we're all hanging out together the whole week. It was actually so much fun. Anyway, she said, oh, it's been great seeing Des with his friends and like how close they are. And, you know, all week I've been thinking, like, oh, I wonder what it would have been like to, like, hang out with these guys when they were in college.

But then I remembered, I was in kindergarten. Oh, my God. That's so good. Yeah. That's so, you know, Chad and I also have, Chad and I have a 14-year age gap. I don't know how much your guys is. I got one more year. 15.

Okay. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. Hannah and I both have jokes about, like, being with older guy. And it's so funny. It's like, Chad and I, we don't really feel the age gap often, but with like pop culture stuff or like, oh, what were you doing when this movie came out? That's always a conversation where we're like, nope, now that feels disgusting. So we're just not going to talk about that. My back to the future obsession just doesn't land the same way.

Yeah, yeah. Exactly. All right. Let's, uh, anyway, so we, we, we somewhat agree on speeches, even though I like, honestly, is there anything worse than like a fucking best man bombing? Like, it's like, why would you, like, I don't even, by the way, just the last thing I'll say in this, like, why are we even, like, allowing the potential disaster of the best man speech? Why are we making that such a crucial part? Because first of all, you're ruining the wedding for the best man.

And then the best man is potentially ruining the wedding for everybody else. Yeah. I'm all for speeches. I'm all for like the sweet, funny stuff. It's, I think it's just time-wise. Like, as soon as people start to feel kind of like squirly, I hate that. Like, when I'm at a wedding and I'm like, oh, God, this is just like going on on, no, then it's like, I just think that sucks. It's hard for everybody. Yeah, you can, a best, a best man can ruin a wedding. Yeah. I've been at a wedding where it was like a, maybe an aunt. And I'm, I'm not exaggerating. It was over 20 minutes. It was 20 minutes. It was 20 minutes It was crazy I've never seen anything like this

Like she brought out basically like a baby book And was like going like page by page It was oh my god It was bizarre But yeah like it really It should be like live at the Apollo It should be like Gondite live at the Apollo People thrown apples

And shit It's like I want to get come on Eileen I want to get come on I lean on the fucking DJ booth I want to fucking dance Let's go I know it's That's crazy. All right. Let's take some more, Nicole.

We have a lot, actually. We got a lot to get through. Hi, Deb, Nicole. I've called in numerous times. I've never made it on the pod. So maybe this will be my first time. But an engagement tradition that I think needs to change is just like the whole orchestrated event of it all, like wanting to wear a specific dress when you get engaged,

having a photographer. I think it's fun. It's like, maybe a friend knows that it's happening or something and they take a picture of it like sneakily whatever i just don't like it when it feels like just so instagram if you know what i'm saying all right goodbye love you guys i i couldn't agree more really see i think this is i feel like many men will agree with this and i think so you want the the the uh the the photos of the engagement?

Well, okay, are we talking about engagement or the wedding? She, no, she's talking about the proposal, right? Only engagement. Oh. That's what she's talking about, right? Oh, okay. Then I misheard that. Oh, sorry, yeah, no problem. I told Chad, I was like, I would love, like, if there's any way that you can just, like, get one, one picture, one person to do it.

And my dad did end up, like, sneaking one from afar. And I do, it's like, I will treasure that forever. I would have treasured it anyway, but yeah. No, but that's, that's great. That's what she's saying too. It's like, yeah, you get a friend to snap a pick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So during the winter, I was in Miami cycling over the one of the Venetian causeway.

And I saw like a full shoot of a proposal. And I happened to be cycling by when he dropped to the knee. now maybe they were recording an ad but i don't think so but i was just like like i like first of all hannah didn't know she was getting proposed to when i proposed like do do we prefer this to spontaneity or did did he do that on the down low like getting your dad to snap a photo my dad so chad had coordinated with my dad about the proposal because i was visiting family in spokane where i'm from Chad flew there and surprised me. So my dad was like, hey, my dad was also so, like, awkward about it.

He's like, why don't, why don't you and I go get dinner at 4.30? I was like, that's, like, this is like, never has anybody said, let's get dinner at 4.30. But also, I was like, it's time for the home for him, potentially. Like, this is, like, getting to be, this is too much. This is, this is too early. But I really, like, I am such a gullible person, even though, he was being awkward, it wasn't registering in my mind that something weird was going on. And so we like walked up to the restaurant and Chad was standing outside of it. And he like took me on this

beautiful walk up into this like beautiful lookout point. And that's where he proposed. But my dad had like went like on a back road kind of where he could see. Because I think I think the thing is like I would not want somebody like within earshot. I want it to be a private moment. Yeah, that's how you feel to. That's what I'm talking. What, what Chad did is actually amazing. Okay, yeah, yeah. You didn't know. I was completely, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I think she's talking about the people that like, they, they organize it. The people who like proposed to themselves, basically, where it's like, well, I think they're all in. Yeah. Yeah. It's, yes. That to me, you do lose a lot of the magic just for the sake of a picture. If you can pull it off or like somebody sneaks a pick without like being right there and

without it being a thing, I completely agree. Yes, I do. I just misheard, I think, that first part of the call where I thought it was about weddings. And I was like, oh, God, I think like a lot of people want a wedding photographer. No. Engagement photographer. Yeah, that is like a wildly different thing. So were you happy that your dad was actually kind of there, sort of there?

Was that? Yeah. It was like the perfect amount of involvement. My dad is actually who married us, which, again, was not like something we were thinking way in advance would happen. But when you only have 20 people there, you're kind of limited to who. was going to be doing this. And my dad is a, he's a slam poetry champion, which is so random. And so he, like, knows how to speak publicly.

And we were like, okay, of all the people, I feel like I could see my dad doing this the most. And so, and I, like, Chad is just, he has a great relationship with my dad. And I think, like, he wanted my dad to feel special and, like, involved in it in that way. Of, like. Oh, that's cool. Yeah. oh my daughter and her partner are getting married all the snaps that's cool he's a slam poetry

so obviously part of your genetic makeup has performance yeah so his that's like his side thing his main thing he's a trumpet player in the spokane symphony and so he's a performer in like a different way than stand-up but yeah both of my parents like they met in a professional foosball tournament that's like where I come from as like professional foosball. It's so weird. My parents. I knew you for a couple of years before I knew about the foosball thing, by the way. Yeah, which took me by surprise.

For those that don't know, Kelsey, you're like, did you play professionally or you play to that level? Yeah. I mean, I never, I wasn't like doing it as like my full-time job. Very few people can, but I'm like ranked and stuff like that. I've been playing my entire life. It's like of such a bizarre. our world, but it's so... I know you've made loads of YouTube content

about that and all that, but like, has anyone ever reached out for like a full... Because like, the bowling documentary was very entertaining that was on Netflix. I don't know if you saw that. Like, why are we not making one for foosball? There is one. There's one called foosballers. It aired on ESPN2, maybe, or ESPN The Ocho. But anybody can look it up and watch it. I don't know, like, what site is hosting it right now, but it's so

good. It's really well done. And then ESPN2 also just showed the world championships of Fusball a few weeks ago. So we're like, we're really trying to get more like press around the sport because like it's, it's amazing. I love it so much. But yeah, not a lot of people know that it's. I've always sucked at it. It's a weird. It's a weird sport. It's like such tiny movements and like this hand eye coordination, it takes a lot of time to get good at it. Yeah. Anyway, fun fact about Kelsey, everybody. If you weren't familiar with her work before.

Let's take a few more, let's take a few more wedding ones. I really dislike seating charts at weddings or I guess some engagement parties might have seating charts, but I really hate those. It feels like the first day of elementary school when you don't know anyone and you just Did she cut off? But that's okay though because the sentiment is noted. Now, when I read this, I was conflicted because I hate being sat at the wrong table. But at the same time, it's kind of one of those like, I think it's a necessary evil because otherwise it just gets a bit crazy.

But what does everyone think? it's funny where she's saying it feels like school or whatever i my brain goes to like the people who are there and don't know many people or they're kind of by themselves that may oh it gives me like a pit of my stomach feeling we're like picturing them in the cafeteria where they like don't know where to sit i hate the thought of that for people so i like in that way that it's like everybody has a place to sit everybody knows where they are i don't know i think it can at least least help with that part of it. By the way, did you know that seating charts cause a lot of drama, too? Not just for the couples that are working out the seating, but then people after the wedding

complain about where they were seated. And like, there's like some unwritten rule, which I'm not aware of, of the position of your table. Like, and it's important, like how it ranks the importance of these people in your lives. I did not know about that. Yes. Yes. That can cause drama. People don't have enough going on in their lives. Like, people who get genuinely upset about this shit, I'm like, wow, what a nice life

you must have that this is the thing that upsets you. It's like, ugh, drives me crazy. This is the thing that lights up the group chat. It's like, can you believe that they put me at the back? I was at the back corner at the table. That shit, that'll light up a group chat. It's like the Bravo stuff where people obsess about your proximity to Andy Cohen on a reunion seating chart is a huge importance of your stature and importance in said show. Do you don't know about that?

No. A lot you don't know about Kelsey. I guess. Jeez. The Bravo. I know nothing of the Bravo world. No, not just Bravo. just the importance of seating in terms of status.

Listen, I come from, I come from foosball people. Okay, this is not a part of my day-to-day life as seating status. You come from a trumpet-playing foosball family, you know? Yeah, I literally have foosball trophies behind me that have flames on them. Like, this is like my Guy Fieri white trash origin story. Okay, I don't, I can't get into the summer stuff. Excuse me. You cannot say you're white trash when your father plays in a symphony.

But what about the foothal? Okay, that's quirky. When your dad is in a super... You need to come to a foosball tournament and then you will not call it quirky every again. Then you'll be like, oh, there's a lot of Frito dust on these people's fingertips. Your dad is in the brass section of an ensemble. That's not...

It's true, but of the Spokane Symphony and Spokane is the meth capital of America. So it's like, you really, you try, you go, that's classy, And then I don't know. Comes back down. It is an amazing symphony, but I don't know. You're not a, you're not a nepo. Like, you're like a creative nepo. Like, like in terms of like creativity, not.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm assuming not. I have very creative parents. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because my parents weren't like that. Even though myself and my brother both had ended up being comedians, but we were not exposed to the arts.

Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't. Yeah, I guess I was exposed to some art. in certain ways for sure. It's just, have you been to Spokane before? No, I'm actually doing, I'm doing Spokane for the first time, I think, at some stage in the next 12 months, I've never been. My American knowledge is low, actually, despite my Americanness. No, it's, yeah, I mean, Spokane, I think there's a lot of people who haven't been to Spokane, but I think once you're there,

you'll be like, okay. There are some nice parts, and then there are some other parts, for sure. Well, I'm going to look at it for the white trash looking guy in the Spokane Symphony and be like, oh, I guess that's Kelsey's dad. Just as a rat tail. Yeah, yeah, yeah, a mullet in the symphony. All right, let's take a couple more, Nicole. Hey, Des. I am calling about the wedding prompt. I just experienced a new one at a wedding, and I wanted to get your opinion.

So the bride of the groom and the wedding party, they all were the ones who served the dinner. It was like a catered, like a situation where the guests are walking up to a table, kind of like a buffet, a buffet, but they're serving it. So it was really cute to see the bride and groom and everyone in their aprons. And they had said it was a way for them to connect with each person that came to the wedding. I'm not sure how I feel about it. I want to know your take on that. Love the pod.

I mean, it's... What? Inventive? Let me tell you something. I don't care about that much at a wedding. I am not clocking in as lunch lady out. I'm not going to be a prissy bitch about much, but I'm not putting on a hairnet and plopping some mac and cheese entrees.

I don't know that... I do think that's very sweet that they wanted to eat. use that way to connect with people. I don't know that I would want to do that, though. No, I don't think I don't think I would want to do it. I do see the logic in it, though, like on paper, because, like we were talking about earlier, like it does feel like a political fundraiser. Like, you end up in this situation where, like, at some states throughout the night,

everyone's trying to get FaceTime with you. So you actually do spend most of the night talking to, like, random people and never actually like feeling completely free. Whereas I guess they were thinking, let's dish out the. the food to everybody, like almost like a wake. You know, so I feel lost, kneel, say a prayer, and then, you know, you've dealt with that person. So, like, they have the moment where, like, everyone lines up to meet there. And then they're free for the rest of the night.

Is that the idea behind it? Yeah. Chicken or fish. And then you get out on the dance floor. And then you've done your time. Yeah, it's like, oh, no, you can't have two bits of mashed potatoes. I mean, yeah. I think cute idea, but I don't think that that's catching.

on. I think it's funny thing that you, that you, the dialogue got to experience it, though. Yeah. Can I tell you when that, so Chad and I, we just recorded our podcast episode yesterday and we were talking about the wedding. And this is a tradition that I personally don't think should be this way anymore. I don't think there should be this like, you have sex, the wedding night pressure. I think you should have sex the day, like during the day beforehand. Because by the time you're done with the wedding, you're like, so fucking tired, you're bloated, you're full, you just ate a bunch of food. And then there's this pressure of like, okay, we got married, so we have to have sex. When you both just want to go to sleep, it's like, do it during the day. I just thought we, like, were geniuses for that. No, I agree. Hannah and I did have, because Hannah has a bit about it because she famously took a plan B the next morning.

Oh, God. Oh, God. I care. Because I think she like, I don't know, she like, she didn't realize. like she was like ovulating. Whatever. Who knows? Okay.

I can't remember why she felt like she had to take a little bit, but she has a bit about it. I'm not like, I'm not giving away like a couple. Yeah, yeah. We did, but we definitely did based on the fact that like we felt like you're supposed to do that. Yeah, it's, I get that it's like you want to do it that day. Like there is something about it. It's like, okay.

Consumated. Consumated. Yeah, yeah. But the whole like that you have to that night after you've just. had one of the longest, most exhausting days of your life and you've eaten. If you're drinking, you're like, you're probably not super drunk anymore. You're coming down from it where you're tired from it. Exactly. I don't know. I just was like, we had like sex in the morning. It was awesome. I was like, great. Why isn't everybody doing this like this? Yeah. I just feel like that's

a yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I'm with you. A hundred percent. Obviously, it comes from a time where they've been waiting. It's like, it does come from that time. Because I tell me, like, I hear this thing is awesome, but I've been waiting now, you know, for quite a while. The courtship, the courtship has been fun, but I really can't wait to actually, look. So I get, I get where it comes from. Me too. But it just, yeah, I totally. We're talking of traditions, yeah.

But, and, and I, like, I definitely felt like we, we, we, we're supposed to. But I don't know, are people still feeling that. I guess they are, because we felt it. I don't know. It would be interesting to know how many people are feeling that pressure, but it just in my mind, it's like, whether it's olden days or religious stuff or not, I do feel like there is that pressure of that you do it that night, but it just, like, you're not set up for success. No.

Plus, you probably were banging earlier in the week. It's not that important. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, I don't know. I agree with your, I agree with your tradition change there. Kelsey 100%. I mean, we could play it, but we don't have to because it comes up all the time on this podcast. What are your feelings about two things.

One, going to the dad and being like, I'm going to propose, are you okay with me proposing? And two, the dad like handing you away. What are your feelings on that? Because we have a lot of people pushing back on that on this pod. God, yeah. I think that's so family specific. it's like so many families where you're like, yeah, the dad is either like a piece of shit

and you like don't have a good relationship with them or the daughter doesn't have a good relationship. I think it's really like, if you have a good relationship with her dad and you want to do that, I think that's a nice thing. I don't know that you like need permission anymore. I don't know if it's like, may I have your daughter

or just like I wanted to let you know that, I'm going to ask. And I'm very excited to, like, be a part of your family. I don't think it has to be this, like, may I serve? Yes. You know, like, it's, that's kind of weird. Yes. For me, I always feel like it's like a fun tradition.

And I do appreciate this sort of, like, negative history of it, like, in terms of the patriarchy. And, you know, like them, you know, like, it's like a one, the father sort of handing over to you. And I get all that. I, 100%. would never deny any of the history of it is a little problematic. But it is kind of like one of those fun traditions that you keep in the knowledge that we don't live this way anymore.

Right. But I also appreciate some people that are like, no, the connotations are still too problematic for me and I don't want that. I would 100% respect a woman that felt that way, you know? Agree. Absolutely. I think that's such a personal case-by-case thing. Chad and I did it. Oh, go ahead. you did how did that go well it's funny because hannah amalgamates two different times into a much funer story it went totally fine and it was like it was it was fun but in a separate occasion hannah's dad said to me she's your problem now joking like you listen you you deal with that now because I've, I've, it's, it's taken everything.

But, uh, so she always says that I said, uh, can I, can, are you okay with me, marry you're doing it? He was like, yeah, she's your problem. That's actually not, that's not what happened, but it is a funnier version. So funny. It is a funnier version of the story. Actually, another funny, another funny story is one of the first times I ever hung out. Hannah's dad and I went to play golf, just the two of us.

And I wasn't with Hannah that long. It was early on. Okay. And he said, on the golf court, he says to me, You know, I really appreciate, you know, like, you're taking on a lot, like, with Hannah. I guess because she was, like, on reality TV show. And it was like, like, you know, like, she's a comedian. Like, oh, he was like, you know, it's a lot to, it's a lot to deal with.

So I appreciate that. I was like, dude, what are you talking about? I'm sure she was thrilled. Like, what the fuck? I was like, what am I getting myself into here? Yeah. He was right. He was 100% right.

I get it now. So let's, let's take one more to wrap it. up. Okay. I would say the tradition that has to go has obviously got to be the garter tradition. On no level do I want my new husband to be digging around in my crotch under my press in front of my whole family, my grandmother and aunts, and like they'd cheer him on. Like, that's horrible. And also the bachelorette, like, they've gotten out of hand.

somehow that's the biggest part of the wedding that made me want to end my life. Yeah. Thanks guys. Love you. 100%. 100%. Yeah. I mean, the garter thing especially is like that is insane that we are still doing that,

especially when like grooms take it out with their teeth. Yes. I was a kid at a wedding where the groom took it out with his teeth. Oh my God. It's like, what the fuck? fuck is going, people are in projectile vomit everywhere. This is like damaging. This is so weird to see people do that. They don't do that in Ireland. I feel like that's like an American thing. No, no, it is. Like, it's just not a thing in Ireland. I don't, the Garda thing. We talked about

this before like when Hannah was on the pod and I guess I googled it at the time. But it is a very strange tradition, the garter tradition. Do you guys have things in Ireland? Like, do you have anything like that or things that are tradition that that we're? we don't have here? Well, the big difference between an Irish wedding and American wedding is that that all the dinner, everything happens and then you dance. So it's like the dinner is like courses, everyone's sitting down. The speeches usually happen around dessert. The speeches can be quite long on an Irish wedding. And then when that's all done, now we party. So I prefer the American wedding where it's like, you know, you have a, you eat a little bit, you dance a little bit,

eat a little bit, dance a little bit. And actually all my friends that came to our wedding were like, this is awesome because they're like kind of kicked off like straight away. Then we ate a bit. We danced a bit. So, so Irish weddings are fun. Oh, and the other big thing. And this, this sounds like a stereotype, but the bar isn't free at an Irish wedding.

That's like, that's not a day. Oh, okay. You buy drinks at the hotel. And I guess it's partially considered that like if the bar was free, it might be problematic. But often in modern Irish weddings, I feel like the wine is free. Like wine with dinner is free. But going to the bar, you pay. Getting cocktails.

Okay. Yeah, stuff like that. Yeah, that checks out. But I don't, other than that, it's pretty similar, you know. It always ends up the same. Your uncle dancing and, you know, that like everything you hate normally when you're out, that you think is cheesy as fuck absolutely kills at your wedding. Right.

You can't listen, you can't be cool. Weddings aren't supposed to be cool. Anyone that tries to make your wedding too cool, you're not having a good time. No. And it also, it just does make it more stressful. Like, let there be little mistakes, let there be weird shit that happens. It's funny. Like, it's, what are we trying to do?

It's like, this is just this fun, great thing. But, yeah, we had, like, my nieces were the flower girls. And one of them just, like, went rogue and was just, like, twirling off. And it was his, like, I like, I, like, loved it, but you know that there are somebody where they'd be like, get that fucking kid back on the aisle. Oh, my God. She's ruining it.

She's ruining it. And it's like, you just have to, I don't know. I just think the more laid back you can be, the more you will enjoy the day. Like, people, I think, set themselves up to not enjoy it just from these expectations. Well, we're going to a wedding this Saturday in Washington, D.C. So I'll be back next week to report on. Oh, my gosh. That would actually be a funny.

That'd be a funny thing like wedding reviews, just like crashing weddings and then reviewing the wedding, being like the Samantha McCluskey and Bob Giovanni their wedding. I give it three out of five. Food was good, but DJ sucked. Yeah, too long of speech. Nicole was kind of like what you were saying that you went to these weddings recently and you're like, I like that. I hate that. Chad and I also went to one like a month ago and we were doing the same thing. We were like, okay, that's a good thing to remember that we like don't want that to feel like.

that way or oh that's interesting but the one we went to was like they met while working at a bar and so it was pretty alcohol fueled they handed out jello shots during the ceremony and then as as the bride went down the aisle she iced a guy she handed him a smirnoff ice and he had to get down on a knee and chug a smirnoff ice before she even made it to the altar i was like this is wild i've never seen anything it was like an alcohol themed wedding. It was a real bar culture wedding. Yes.

One of them is absolutely going to end up in rehab. This is a 100% guarantee rehab wedding. I hope they survive it and it makes them stronger as a couple. So anyway, it was a beautiful wedding, but it was very funny to be like, oh, this is. No, that sounds like a fun wedding, to be honest. It was fun. It was a good bad. Even as a non-drinker.

Yeah. Kelsey, your specials on Netflix? Yes. It's called Happy Hour, speaking. of drinking. Speak of the devil. Yeah, so yeah, it's called Happy Hour. Would love for everybody to go watch, please. And also, and it was charting, which is huge. Thank you. Chartered. You know, because like a lot of specials got on Netflix, they don't chart. Like charting is a charting is an actual achievement. Thank you. I freaked out. I, you know, the morning after it comes out, you wake up and you're like,

okay. Am I going to chart? To see. And I checked too early. I checked at like, like 6 a.m. or something, but I didn't realize I had checked too early. I just thought I hadn't charted and I was kind of like, okay, well, you know, I did my best. I, from many as times as I could. And then I went back to sleep and I was in New York. I was doing press and I walked back to my hotel and I was like, well, maybe I'll just look again just because I was like kind of curious who is in the top 10 because I didn't really remember at the time. And I looked and at that time, I was number six and I almost like dropped my phone on the New York ground. I was like, oh my God, I freaked out. And then the next day I went to find.

and I just, it's crazy. My last two have been on YouTube and then we're licensed to Hulu, but like Netflix is, it's a whole different thing. And you can't know the numbers in real time. So you're just like promoting and hoping. And so to see it, to see it up there was, I mean, like some of the best moments of my life. I freaked out. It was really cool. Fun, final thought about your Hulu specials.

Oh, yeah, yeah. I got my special on YouTube, on Hulu, but the deal was called the Kelsey Cook deal. Because you, yeah, because, well, that's what we were calling it, because you were the one that established the deal where you get it on YouTube, but you also get it on Hulu, which is really like a best of both world situation. Yeah. You get the content on your own YouTube, but you get the kudos of saying one of the streamers has the special. And it happens. And it helps press, yeah. Yes.

So Hannah's special was a proper Hulu special, but we had the Kelsey Cook deal. Yeah, the Kelsey Cook deal is like, it's better. It's the best deal. Yeah, you make it work. That one, yeah, mark your territory, the one that came out last year, it was like, okay, well, it's going on YouTube, but my PR person was like, look, having it licensed to Hulu, because there are certain press things that, like, you just can't do if you're only putting it on YouTube. they're just like, well, anybody can piss him on YouTube. But you put Hulu on that name, and then it's suddenly like, oh, you can do Good Morning America. You can do these things that you wouldn't otherwise.

So, yeah, that was, I think, you're right. I think we were the first to try that. You did it. You did. Yeah. But I didn't get Good Morning America. I got good day in New York, but it's not the same. You know what?

It's something. All right. Anyway, Kelsey, thank you so much. Kelsey Cook Comedy on Instagram, right? Yes. Yes. Thank you guys so much for having me on. This was really fun.

cool concept. All right. Great. Thank you. And best, best to Chad, who I've never met. Oh my gosh. You guys have to meet. We have to meet. We'll double date and age gap. Yes. Ken and I go to Chuckie Cheese. You guys go to fucking. All right. See you later. Kelsey. Bye.