Berner Phone - WeezyWTF: Whoreible Decisions & Sex Dungeons

Episode Date: June 17, 2021

She's sexy, hilarious, and makes whoreible decisions that she discusses in depth with Hannah in hell! WeezyWTF talks about being in a throuple, getting a tv show, golden showers, being bisexual, and s...o much more. GET TICKETS TO MY COMEDY SHOW HERE: https://www.hannahberner.com/ --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is up, my little devils? I feel like I might start doing some intros in the future that keeps you guys posted a little more in my personal life just to feel super connected and to overshare more than I already do. But I am excited to officially announce that my stand-up tour, House Broken, has begun. Go to hannah burner.com for tickets. I'm going to Philly, Richmond, Indianapolis, West Nyack, Texas, Kansas, Kansas,
Starting point is 00:00:26 city, New Jersey, Buffalo, Nashville, Irvine, Raleigh, and Maryland. So if you are in one of those cities, I will find you. So I get your tickets at hanaburn.com. And today we have such a fun episode with Weezy WTF, who's a self-proclaimed ho. Enjoy. My plenty of fish name was Free Spirit 407. And our member people were like, girl, just say you a ho. Horror. We're like, we're like, Capital W. Free vagina 407. Welcome to Burning in Hell. Okay, what's up, guys?
Starting point is 00:01:15 Welcome to another episode of Burning in Hell. We are in a sex torture dungeon chamber today. I am with sex educator, comedian, entrepreneur, producer, the list keeps going, also TV star. Aw, wzy WTF. What's under a star? Not a planet. Wait.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I don't do science. Me neither. I'm like a clout. Yeah, you're like in astrology somewhere. It's episode two. Yeah. So you have sex styles on fuse. You're the host of horrible decisions.
Starting point is 00:01:45 You also have another pod. For fact's sake, my co-host loves you. You're doing it with A. Anna Burner, dude? Yeah, tell him I love him. Really? I don't, I feel like I've watched your shit and I thought it was really fun. I love for facts sake.
Starting point is 00:01:56 It's a show, like, obviously Horrible has been around for a long time as white people know me, but for facts sake, we just take a different topic every week and do facts about it. Just Google it. Yeah, because you can't restrict your creativity to just fucking. You have to put it in other ways. Which, by the way, that is my favorite thing to do. Like, I'm just really good at it. Are you talking about sex or talking shit?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Sex. Okay. Like, it's my, when I'm sorry, I feel like all I can do is offer you sex. Like, I mean, now I'm a good cook. after quarantine, but like, pussy is, that's what I know. I'm dirty, and I feel like burning in hell, we get into, like, sob stories and, like, it's beautiful and we cry, but we don't talk about fucking enough. So I'm so happy to have you on.
Starting point is 00:02:39 And I was reading about sex cells because it's, it's kind of a big deal to be chosen from just, like, talking shit into your own podcast to a network television show. Dude, I know. Like, if the show was bad, every podcaster, at least every black podcaster would be fucked. I was like, well, they ain't going to get a shit now. Look at what wee did. Oh, no. Do you feel pressure like you're representing like black podcasters as a whole? Do I feel pressure? Yeah, please explain that mindset.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Fine. Like, for one, when people give you a chance to do something, yeah, black podcasters had a show, shout out to the re, they're pioneers of big podcasters ever, they had a show on fuse, and Deezis and Merrill. Those are the black podcasters that got TV shows. But no women. I mean, Crystal's a woman, but like, not alone. And this is the first business show ever hosted by a black girl on cable TV.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Like, it was a lot of pressure, bro. Like, it was a lot. There was one day where I thought about, like, flat ironing my hair to do a ponytail, and I was like, keep it in the breath. Keep hope a lot. Do you feel like you've had a good support system to keep? Because, like, you have to, you don't have someone to look as, like, a role model for this. That's not true.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Tell me. Chelsea handler's my role model. Oh, my, Chelsea was my role model. I just want to be the black, Chelsea. Okay, oh, my God, I'm going to cry because Chelsea lately, her shitting on her guest. and having that confidence and just freedom on a cable network was unheard of. And it's like when you're, this is fucked up to say, we're hot, but we're not like, I'm not saying you ugly.
Starting point is 00:04:09 I'm just saying, you know what I mean? No, I would say I have reversed by this morph, morphie. Like, I think I'm way hotter than I am. No, you're there. You're there. That's it. No, but I know where I am, but I believe I'm hotter. Okay.
Starting point is 00:04:21 Yeah. I almost shaved today I mean, put a ring on it Yeah So like it's I mean you don't know how he looks He might be ugly as shit No, he's cute I saw
Starting point is 00:04:32 Thank you baby I like dating guys who are hotter than me To make me again feel hotter than I really am Like I know you guys No You guys are a hot couple I found like a gorgeous man Who's old now
Starting point is 00:04:43 He is cute You find him like a little off his game I'm just I hate him Like when people get engaged I'd be like he probably ugly Or if they're hot I always assume they're broke. Always.
Starting point is 00:04:53 It just makes me feel good about my own. Well, I'm not saying, but you know what I mean. Yeah. I mean, my dude, he has arthritis. Like, he's old as shit, but there's so many beautiful parts of him. I feel like he wouldn't be who he is today. Like, if I met him in his 30s when he was his prime time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:09 Like, that wouldn't work out. He has arthritis in what? I joke. He's just old. Oh. Like, he goes to sleep at, like, 45. That's not, girl, I mean, 40, there are you? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:05:18 They're, like, first of all, they use. they used to party and now it's like they even if they were a hoe back in the day it lessened up yeah you know i mean they're not fully into instagram no like they've seen so many tits they don't give a shit i know and there's a beautiful wiseness about them where you like actually respect their mind how it works sometimes they're still they're still men okay so i was looking to sex sales backtracking um and obviously horrible decisions is like one of the rawest raciest pods out there which is incredible but then you're going on cable TV and what I love about it
Starting point is 00:05:53 and what reminds me about Burning in Hell is that they basically said that you're talking to celebrities not only about like the sex industry but also like their own kind of sexual problems so basically I don't know who wrote that
Starting point is 00:06:08 but I'm just pulling the shit from Google for real? Yeah oh well maybe they wanted to make it sound more salacious it is nephew while also helping solve the sexual issues of a celebrity guest whether they know they have them or not. Kind of. So basically, the show is a finance show, right?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Like, it's showing you entrepreneurs that make money from sex without having it. Yeah. And so whatever the business is that they do, if it's a celebrity guest or a friend or whatever, I do it with them. So, for example, we have Donnell Rawlings on an episode. I love him. And we go to a dungeon and a guy I know literally makes money from tying women up. That's his job. He ties them up for, like, therapy healing, for kink, for everything.
Starting point is 00:06:49 but he doesn't fuck them because he makes money from sex about having it. So Donnell comes down to the dungeon with me. He ties me up. He learns how to do it too. And it's fire. Like everything that we do together, we're like learning about this business. But why I love it is because like there's this thing called horophobia. Have you ever heard of it?
Starting point is 00:07:07 No. There's like a whole hierarchy, right? So I remember Cardi B said once like, oh, I was a strip of hoe, but I never sold pussy. But it's like, okay, bitch, like it's still ho shit. Like we all do that. When I had a sugar daddy, I was like, yeah, But I have a sugar daddy. It's not like I'm fucking for money.
Starting point is 00:07:22 I have an allowance. Yeah. Like an allowance is different then. You still don't know. Because at the end of the day, I didn't want just food. You know what I want bags. Like, I need the shit. I know I got to fucking suck your old ass dick.
Starting point is 00:07:33 We're getting so much information here. Everyone, take your notepad out. So, that's true. So the horaphobia, it's basically thinking that you're not as much of a ho as that person, but you are. And within this show, I believe people have thought sex work was down here. And basically all these entrepreneurs teach you things about business that could apply to any of them. So like one of the twerking classes I had on there, right?
Starting point is 00:07:56 She was talking about SEO. You know what that is? Search engine optimization. So for anybody that owns the business, this is the best shit I've heard. So I was like, how do you make sure that your twerk class pops up first? She's like, when you save a photo on a website, most of us save it as like pick zero one. Yep. I save it as twerk class, twerk class NYC, tort class cheap, torque class Brooklyn.
Starting point is 00:08:16 She's like so that it's popping up in Google images. And like, my shit's always first. That was one of the smartest things I've heard. Yeah. Now, somebody that has any other kind of business can use that advice. That was the point. Like, I have learned so much from doing horrible because I was the same girl when I did horrible. We would have certain women on and I was like, but they're business women.
Starting point is 00:08:35 And people are not giving these sex workers enough credit. And that's what the purpose of it was. The first time I heard my friend had an only fans. I mean, she's like, friend, but not really. Like, she's in the comedy scene. And I'm not going to lie. I was like joking with one of my other guy friends about it. Like, do you see she's a holy fan?
Starting point is 00:08:53 Oh, my shit. And then I saw she was making $8,000 a month. And I was like, respect. Should I wax now? Respect. Respect. Seriously. And because also everyone can look down on what other people are doing, but like,
Starting point is 00:09:05 they're not paying your bills. But I'm fascinated also by you bringing celebrities on. I love putting people, you warm them up, you butter them up, and then you put them in these uncomfortable positions. Charlamagne this week was holding a pillow on this couch. We were in this video. He was holding a pillow because he was like, oh, I don't know why I'm here.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Did you watch it, Jordan? It's so bad. I'm not even kidding. He was holding the pillow and the only... Like, he wants some milk and a little hot milk and a little like... Because he was like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:09:31 it's just about feet. The episode was called Only Feet. And she comes in and he was sitting there like this. I'm like, I've never seen Charlaman that uncomfortable. He makes everybody else uncomfortable. Yeah. But she's sitting here like, okay. And so, and she's telling us like the colors
Starting point is 00:09:43 that she has to make her toes, like what she has to do, the way she has to take the picture. Now she capitalizes into Cal calendars, making different streams of income from the feet. This makes me so happy that you're normalizing this, too, because... You put my feet in. I just got my did.
Starting point is 00:09:58 Let's get them up there. But this is for Patreon only. People see that shit. And I'm just kidding. I don't have... But also, how many sex dungeons do you feel like there are in New York City? Let's see. You've got Pandora's Box.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Then there's Donatella's Den. Then there's like two unnamed ones. there's a black-owned one I've never been to but I was like selling so much hashtag black-owned business right I was like yo you should come on the show she's like oh girl I'm not trying to go to do but here's the funny thing I learned about sex dungeons
Starting point is 00:10:30 while doing sex cells no they're not legal if they're a sex dungeon they are all in the business sector of acting studios oh because it's like performative yeah so basically if you're going to a sex dungeon your role playing it's not really dude that shoot was wild to me But it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I really want to know in a couple more years. It might take a long time, but like my fiancé lived in China for a bit. And like, rub and tugs are just very normal. It's a release. Very accepted. But then also you're thinking selfishly as a woman, you're like, why can't we have that same access? I think that we're just scared to pay for it. I am.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I mean, I've paid for sex before with women, never from a guy. But like, when I mentioned paying it for a guy, even my co-host, I'm horrible. She's like, I would never pay for dick. You're insane. And I was like, bro, like... I would pay for quality dick. That's what I'm saying. Because we could get below average dick anywhere.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Thank you. When you go to a good restaurant, you know the food's going to be good. And that's why you pay more money. Yes. Like, you can find a hot guy at a bar. Most of the time, not great sex because they're hot and they've never had to. Right. So I want a professional who like would know how to make you squirt or like...
Starting point is 00:11:42 If you got a website and a stripe and a PayPal, let me get that dick. I know. There's got to be good. Somebody, if you, I'm serious. If the shit, if you're paying taxes on the dick, I want it. I love talking to you because I feel like I would talk to guys a lot. I'd be like, what a rub and tug's like. I would just hear the stories, but it was always from men. I'd be like, how much do you masturbate?
Starting point is 00:12:01 Because, like, they were living this, like, free sexual life that I didn't feel like I could or, like, my friends were. Even a dude was telling me I went to a rub and tuck, and he's like, she put a finger in my butt hole and kept making me almost orgasm and stopping and then keep going. he was like it was full art what she did to me and he says the best orgasm we ever had in his life and she's just like an older woman who's very good at what she does do you remember sex in the city when that old woman was jerking him all that's what you just made me think of because people that are into that like tantric and kama sutra type fit and know your body in certain ways like I learned how to
Starting point is 00:12:40 give a hand job to make someone come now I just do it when I'm tired of like second date they don't even noticed. That was actually the biggest humble brag I've ever heard in this podcast, because I don't know how to get a hand job. Dude, it's not a job. It's a job. Seriously. And your arms, like, dude, this is work. Like, I take hit classes, but. So, like, that's what I'm saying, though. When you learn how to do that, it's pressure points. It's how you're twisting your hand. Like, I don't believe when people are like, oh, yeah, I suck dick the best and did it. It is truly you learning your mouth suction your hands to different pressure points not everybody has the same one also gripping like um it's a lot but when the hand job like got better everybody thought i sucked their dick better and i was literally
Starting point is 00:13:26 using less mouth damn i hope that's a white audience wait so can you give us any hand tips in terms of like the twist thing i mean it's hard to like i'm always afraid it's going to be like what's it called like a burn so right no no no I know what you mean like you don't want to like ring out a towel yeah so my best tip that I've learned is you need to when you're tired of sucking dick or when your mouth is getting exhausted you need to be tracing your mouth with your finger and that will always help when you're getting tired also like they'll never feel like your mouth really leaves so let's say you're sucking dick and you're like she's using the microphone very well right now I'm like I just having my mouth She's done this before.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Duh, bitch. It's my brand. This is my literal job. Sucking dick is my brand. So you have to grip the dick in a way where I guess put your finger like if you're just listening to this, like an okay. And you put it over your mouth and you're basically using that when you come up. Okay. So yes, you're doing basket weaving.
Starting point is 00:14:31 By the way, people act like they didn't came up with this shit. Like, I hate when someone acts like that's their move, bro. I've been seen it on Pornhub where people act like they've been doing it. Girl, Superhead came up with it. Know your... Hey, Jen Z. We've been licking assholes since the beginning of time.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Calm down. Thank you. Now, in modern day history, Black History Month may have passed, but Juneteenth is coming. There is a woman named Corinne Steffens, aka Superhead. And I don't know how old you guys
Starting point is 00:14:57 aren't who listening, but Superhead came out with a video that at the time really taught us the basket weave. And there's another thing about... Is this a porn video? Yeah. Was it a sex tape or was a real porn?
Starting point is 00:15:08 I don't know. You don't know it? Produce it is no. How old are you, Jordan? Jordan. I'm 23. You're 23. Jordan. No, it's really the age, I think, because Superhead is really from back then. But when she came up with this, everybody watched how sloppy it was and the way she was gripping it. And then people started talking about that basking weaving technique. And the thing about when you're doing that, like when you're watching it, you have to grip it hard.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Because when the blood is rushing, it makes them harder and they could feel it more and it's way better. Plus, when they're spit around, they may not feel your hands as much and your fingers at much because it could be too sloppy. You still need friction. But the main thing, though, is doing the ring. finger thing when your lips are coming off of the dick so they're still feeling something there yeah because it's sensitive up there yeah even if your mouth i love this because my excuse was like how am i ever going to do it better than him but like he can't pull all that shit off i can do what better than him suck dick no hand jobs oh right and also men aren't doing those techniques so you can probably do it better than him right because they're just like trying to hurry it up he's not about to do like
Starting point is 00:16:02 the two hand like get the lubrication like he can't pull that i love watching guys turn off i'm fascinated by it because i'm like oh my gosh what you do forever like your hand and your dick they've been together for years now this is your first relationship you know i used to fuck this really hot dirty like Williamsburg like german guy oh my god he was so fucking hot he used to always send me these videos of him fucking a sex toy like a sleeve and it was so hot he loved doing it and he would stand up and just basically like jerk it off and when i watched how he would do it with the sex toy he was always turning his own hand but if he was jerking off his own dick it was just plain and normal i was like look at you learn and stuff wow yeah men need to be using
Starting point is 00:16:43 sex toys more i don't know why they don't yeah and i feel like it's there's men are scared of sex toys and i'm always like don't be scared of no one's replacing you with a sex toy like just you have a personality if you don't have your personality men are scared of sex toys because of how much i think okay this how much pleasure it brings women i don't think this sounds is sexually liberating for women and it may be against what i should be saying but here's the truth I do think that we lean on it way too much, that we haven't even learned our own bodies anymore. True. I'll try to use my fingers and my hands as much as I can so I can not be in touch with yourself.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, like sometimes we could desensitize our pussy a little. When I use a vibrator too much, it makes me longer to come. And I also think we don't know how to make ourselves come if we're just using the vibrator. So it's harder to have. You can abuse your own clitoris and your clitoris like I'm done tapping out. Have you seen those means or the clits like got a few hairs left? but I do yeah I think it's right to every now and then go old school just have your hand and remember what they used to do back in the day I've been coming off of thoughts lately
Starting point is 00:17:50 oh my god at first it was whack but now it's like you're like my own creativity has been making me dude it's just like daydreaming when's the last time you daydream we got to do shit like this is like a new form of sexual meditation I'm serious I just think of like guys I fucked or like guys I wish I fuck yeah shout out to that podcast but God, like, or even women, right? Like, I think about just sexual, sexually tense situations. Yeah. But I also think if you can make yourself come with thoughts, then, like, during real sex,
Starting point is 00:18:21 you can then use those thoughts in it to kind of enhance them. Yes. I literally said when I was sucking dick, I was like, oh, my God, I can't wait to fuck myself thinking about this later. And he was like, this girl's so nasty. It was my first time sucking his dick. But I was really drunk. yeah so i always claim it on that i'm like oh i was like so when i get drunk i'm so
Starting point is 00:18:42 creepy he's like you had two sips of wine and they're like yeah when i googled you it said a horror right on the top we have so many amazing sexual educating opportunities here right now with weezy and i want to take advantage of as much as i can do you have any booty-licking advice for me um only that it has to be consensual i don't even like my ass licked when someone doesn't tell me I'm like, ooh, yeah, yeah. No, it's true. I don't mean that, like, I didn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:19:12 No, but you want to feel hot and sexy and not be paranoid that, like, they don't like what they're getting down there. I know. It's a very, because I'm an avid farder. In front of your man? Girl. I, holding an end makes me uncomfortable, and I want to be my full self. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:29 How long have you been viding in front of them? How do you get to that point? How long you dated him? Then when the farts start? Great question. so I have respect for the guy so I'll try to not but once I break the seal
Starting point is 00:19:40 which is normally an accident like I laugh too hard I've laughed too hard and I far for the first time and at first I think it's cute like it was a mistake because you have to pretend like oh my god I never do that but then once he's I just don't like the dichotomy of well like he's farting and I'm not allowed to I don't like that kind of imbalance but the problem is he'll have loud ass farts
Starting point is 00:20:01 but I have like very deadly farts because I'm definitely lactose intolerant and all I do is eat, like, cheese all the time. So, like, we'll get strep into fights. You know how the farts smell like that? It's, like, the shit's right there, and it just blow it. That's really it. I don't know if people know that.
Starting point is 00:20:18 So you're telling me, I just have to shit more. Yeah, I have IBS, so I'm always shitting. I think I do, too. You shit, like, two, three times a day? Girl, I can do, like, little shits all day. Like, every time I go down, there's a little bit. Let's get into sexual education. How's your poop?
Starting point is 00:20:33 Let's get you guys horny right now. talking about shit. Well, I feel like a lot of my comedy stem from fart jokes, which are always funny. But then, again, it's normalizing, like, girls do... There's something hot about the release of a fart as in, like, you can't control it, just like an orgasm. You see what I'm trying to play with here? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:50 Like, I'm not saying my farting is hot at all. Yeah, but it's like, it just, I want to... If you're more in tune with, like, what your body naturally wants is, you will orgasm more. Maybe farts equate to more orgasms. It don't. But, okay. Oh, blue-licking, sorry. Have to be consensual.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah. Also, when you start, if it's never done it before, always started the balls. And there's a small area between the balls and the asshole called perennium. Is that the perineal? Is it? Perennial. Prennial. The gooch.
Starting point is 00:21:24 On horrible decisions. Yeah. But I don't know the name. You might be right. Brennan is the skin between the head of the dick and the shaft. So, yeah. We said we weren't scientists in the beginning, but look at us. Educator. By the way, that's unofficial. I don't have a degree in sex ed. I do believe that.
Starting point is 00:21:39 You've put in hours of work. How yeah. And I know that when you're teaching people to be more comfortable about sex it is a real thing. I think anybody who does that is a sex educator. I really believe that. And a real sex educator told me I was. You know, Shan Booty. Yeah, we have the same manager and I love her. Has she been on your show? No, I've been chasing her ass. She's been like pregnant and busy. I know. But Shan Booty was like, you're a sex educator. I was like, bitch, well, have you said it. I have so many degrees on the wall. I'll put this in my bio the next day. And I've had it there for two years. I got a quote. I don't give it a fuck. People will be like, and what is it in?
Starting point is 00:22:14 Sucking dick, girl. I have a pH dick. That's what I got. Do you ever feel pressure now that you're kind of known publicly when you fuck a new dude like. Yes. Dude, the last person I slept with, who I'm sleeping with now? He has a huge dick, right? And he's always talking shit to me.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Like when I can't take it. He's nagging you to like... He'd be like, all right, horrible decisions. I'm like, y'all, stop. And then I have to suck his dick really good. You loki like it because he's challenging you, but also it's hitting your ego. And you're just like, I want to just be myself.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Yes. He was like, you talk all that shit every week. Dude, so like, finally, finally, I was able to like ride it. And I was like, and then he says, well, I'm on top of him. He says my co-host name is Mandy. He was like, Mandy would be so proud. I was so pissed.
Starting point is 00:23:12 It was like 8 o'clock in the morning. It sounds like he has a good sense of humor. He does. And he'll get over this bit. He's fun. Yeah. But that was the most embarrassing shit. I joke that like I don't go hard in the beginning.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Like I give him a 30% blow job. Because if you give him 100 early on, then that's what they expect. No, but I have to. Because I don't attach you to my. Did you see what I just said on this podcast? Yeah. My mom came on my show. Was that a fart or the chair?
Starting point is 00:23:38 Oh, no. You were like, I'd laugh and fart. I would own it. So anyway, my mom comes on horrible decisions and she says something like, oh, you know, I mean, it runs in the family. Like, I'm good at it. She's good at it. I love that for her. And I told her how this guy said I was like the best that he's had.
Starting point is 00:23:56 And my mom was so proud of me that night. She says, Gila, I swear to God, this is the best news. my mom is black but my father is from israel right jewish she sounds like the jewish my mom's like very new york gila i swear to god if you would have told me that this i i am so proud of you it comes through generation a generation further fucking more i want to ask you because are you do you identify as bye so i feel like being by is very interesting in terms of like your energies and like i i listen to some pods where like you were talking about like the don't being dom or like not being dumb or like masculine energy feminine energy like how do you balance that stuff
Starting point is 00:24:37 and what turns you on so as far as like being by and liking women um as much of them all for the gender non-conforming shit and pan sexuality where you can love everybody i'm like really down the middle i like super girly girls and i like super mask guys traditionally um and i think it's just i don't know but that's how my bisexuality works like i don't really like studs they love me though i don't know what's a stud a stud what do you is it I'm like what do white people say that's a black term ain't it can you I've always heard stud I don't know I didn't I don't explain what it is oh okay dyke yeah you can say a dyke which some people consider a slur but my dyke friends don't so basically they don't no like some people they call butch too a butch right
Starting point is 00:25:21 so it's basically when but I love stud white people need start saying stud that is hot That's like sexy because I have a lot of straight white girl friends who could easily be swayed by a stud because it gives like similar masking energy to as a dude. But that's the thing. People I think if you're not really, and this is not to diminish, um, we're making mass generalizations here. Right. But I do think straight girls that end up fucking a girl from the first time. Like those are the ones to get you because you kind of like. Yeah. You know, they're giving you a guy feel. But, um. But they're different than dudes. They're not dudes at all. But they have their own swag. But they still have that like dominant. energy like they could fuck you like a young m a she's in one of the episodes i did on sex cells oh my god yo she was so hot to me oh my god oh my god but she's a stud yes and um wears a strap sometimes but like i really liked how so she still identifies as a woman and like i liked how she talked about her sexuality or like women going down on her like i thought that was hot because a lot of studs aren't and that's cool you don't want to talk about your genitals i get it um there's a lot of studs that
Starting point is 00:26:24 are no touch, which means they don't want you touching them because it makes them feel uncomfortable. There's a lot of things about that. But particularly, I like lipstick lesbians. Like my ex-girlfriend was super lipstick. We were wearing heels at the time. People used to always think we were like, and then we went to Panama. Everybody thought we were like escorts because we were like making out. And these guys were like, oh, they're trying to fucking. Like you were looking for threesomes and stuff. Don't get me wrong. We were fucking. We were having threesomes all the time. But like, no, people really thought we were selling pussy just because we had on these little dresses and we looked cute so being attracted to lipstick lesbians so that and a lipstick lesbian just for anyone that
Starting point is 00:26:58 doesn't know that time is like makeup girlly girl lesbian fem more femme do you find yourself being attracted to like just straight femme girls or can you do you have good gay dar where you could be like that's a lipstick lesbian like she's cheating me out yeah like an eye contact moment um to be real with you like I haven't in a long time come on to a girl like my my ex-girlfriend I broke up like three years ago and it really scared the shit out of me bitches are crazy. I love her so much. We're friends now. She's got a baby. Cool. But she really scared the shit out of me. Now I just have threesomes with bitches. And they come on to me. My house was burnt down.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Dude, she scared me. She sharpened all my nikes. The night we broke up, like, I was like, are we going to fight? Girl, it was giving love and hip-hop. She was like, we were in the car with our boyfriend. We were in a throuple. And I just remember he was driving and he didn't know where to go because we were in Orlando. That's where she used to live. So anyway, we're in the car and we started fighting. She was like, bitch, I will come in that front seat. And I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:28:06 I thought you loved me. And he was just like, so do I make a love? Because she's like, this dude won't hit you, but I will. Bro, it was bad. But I think what really scared me about that is like my feelings for women fucked me up. Like I felt like nobody could compare to her. She was gorgeous. So, like, no, I would, every, even to this day, and for any girl listening who's fucked
Starting point is 00:28:29 me, I'm sorry, because I fucked a lot of bitches isn't. But I compare them all to her. All of them. It just does not get out of my head. But you also can't just be comparing looks. Like, there's clearly, like, deeper feelings. Because, like, there's the hottest girls that you're like, oh, I'm not attracted to. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:28:46 It's the way that she presents herself. It's the connection we have. It's how much she actually likes women. because a lot of times when I'm meeting women for just sex, it's like a novelty thing for them, I think. I don't know if they're really like sleeping with women. And you don't want to ever feel like are they half into this? Because that's not hot.
Starting point is 00:29:04 You want someone who's like so, like even blowjobs just acting like you're obsessed with their dick. Like it's a greatest thing you've ever seen, they'll come. Yes. They love that. People want you to be excited about what you're doing. Now in threesome, I don't really care if it's half ass because like it's just fun sometimes. But with her and we also had such intimate threesomes, right? like I used to fuck two people that like I really cared about so it's just hard like we cried after together we did a prayer circle oh my god dude one of the best three like three sons we ever had we were in bed and she used to always wear like a scarf over her her hair right because like we're not about to fuck the weave up and he wanted to have sex but she was like really tired and I just remember she turned around and we had to be quiet I was in the middle and we were fucking like she kind of woke up and she's like no it's okay she's like trying to touch a titty or something to be involved and
Starting point is 00:29:50 and it was like the cutest thing because then we all just cuddled after and it was like damn like we really love each other do you know I've never had a threesome what and you guys are so long I'm 29 oh but do you not like girls I've never hooked up with a girl
Starting point is 00:30:04 I've never kissed a girl I know I know I'm like did I not live my life no you just that's the thing we push it on women so much even look how I just shocked at you no I feel I feel bad
Starting point is 00:30:18 in your outfit no no no That's the thing. I am like, I have, people have said to me, like, I have a lot of, like, masculine energy, but also my parents raised me very, my parents raised me non-binary before it was like a thing. Like, my mom was against, like, calling me a princess and, like, everything was about, like, how good you are at sports, how good you are at school, never talking about your pretty, whatever. My dad wanted me to be an athlete my whole life. Like, I was a tennis player. Yeah, so, like, I was growing up with, like, it was never like, oh, my God, you look so
Starting point is 00:30:45 pretty in that. It was like, wow, you threw that ball far. Look my daughter. So, like, I just kind of, yes, I was just kind of, yes, I was just. like raised with that aspect but I've always guys favorite I'm always I was always jealous of girls like that when you're pretty and like and then I'm like oh I can name everyone on the Yankees like that's good like but I grew up as an athlete like some of my best friends are lesbians and but I yeah I vote like they I feel like they kind of like me and then I love that attention like I love flirting with everyone but I've like always just you've never gotten to the kiss it's because I don't think intrinsically you wanted it well
Starting point is 00:31:18 that's my thing because I started to feel lame. I started to be like like my friend was like have girls never send to your DMs and like girls have I just never intrinsically like I've always just You gotta want it
Starting point is 00:31:29 Like when straight girls have come on to me Or at least flirted like They were just either curious And I was just someone I want to be bye Like I wish I was sitting here Like I know the time I'm for the community
Starting point is 00:31:40 I want to be I feel like I would run The beach for bye I would fuck that pussy up I feel like I guess I would make that labia clap you know but I feel like the girl I went to what's the lesbian bar this one like two cubby hole I went in and um a butchy girl came right up to me and was like gym
Starting point is 00:32:16 teacher-esque and I got really scared I got very scared and then these two girls were hitting on me and my friend and I just like I panic I was just it was weird but like I feel like everything's a spectrum no I even get nervous sometimes I got nervous I freaked out I get nervous of people I'm not attracted to so that's why you got nervous you know what ugly guys come up to you you'd be like yeah I felt uncomfortable and but the thing is is like I feel like maybe in a past life I was a lesbian or in a future life I'll be I just feel like it's weird that I haven't experienced it in my life It's weird. I just feel like I'm missing out on something.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I think people are so open and over the top about it. Yes. And I have so many gay and lesbian friends. Like everybody who's done it and is not necessarily into it, right? Like I've had friends that are straight, have threesomes and they're like, oh, you know, we kissed and stuff. And it's like, you didn't even want to do it. Do you have any advice to make a threesome less awkward? Yeah. I think that the way to make a threesome less awkward is definitely, you have to.
Starting point is 00:33:15 want to fuck both people. That's the only advice I have. You can't be avoiding one or like subtly competing. If you want to watch someone fuck your boyfriend, that's different. Cuck holding. Cuck holding. Cookewing. Right?
Starting point is 00:33:26 I love that. Even though I like Quissy, like I would love, I love watching my man fuck another girl. I don't know why it is. Like it's just weird. No, it's not weird. I have friends who are like that too. But it's like, it's crazy. Do you feel like, oh, am I not in love with this dude if I want him to fuck someone else
Starting point is 00:33:39 and I won't care? Sex is sex. And we all like, we're learning that, right? And especially when it's someone that you have a great commitment with like you understand and also I think we all like feeling a little jealousy sometimes it's hot I love when guys flirt with my man girls flirt with my and guys I guess I like both I love the attention and it's like that's and you know he's coming home to you yeah and I think with that you just took it to a next level but how to make it less awkward when everyone is into it it's so much more
Starting point is 00:34:06 fun and when I say that I mean like if you've been thinking about a threesome because maybe you want to please your partner you can't necessarily it's very hard to fake it when you're feeling jealous or insecure about something. So I think the best thing is like, because I remember my first threesome like I liked watching them kissed. Kiss. They liked watching me kiss her and like we had a three-way kiss and it was really fun. And also understand things will go wrong. Threesome's are really hard to do. Yeah. Physicians. Sometimes you sit in there like, what do I do? Okay, the dick's in there. Now I can't eat pussy anymore. I just sit here. I'd be like, do they think this is hot or am I just like being weird
Starting point is 00:34:43 right now. I know. And then sometimes when they're fucking, like, let's say, like, I remember with my exes, they used to fucking missionary. And it would, like, kind of seem like I was alone, but I used to always touch myself and, like, kiss them and stuff. And, like, masturbating in a threesome seems like you're alone, but it's really not. Everybody loves watching
Starting point is 00:34:59 everything. There's just a lot going on. Also, I was going to say, I would suggest not doing it with friends. I think that also makes it less awkward, because if it's terrible, then you still got to talk to the bitch. Yeah. Yeah. I love... And you get flashbacks every time you see it.
Starting point is 00:35:19 But the other thing, too, you can use Thrinder. That's, oh, no, sorry, they changed the name to field. F-E-E-E-L-D, it's a threesome app. Okay. So, like, everybody knows what they want, right? And the girl, I don't know if you've heard this term, Unicorn, that's a single woman that's down to sleep with a couple. And I think the best thing to do is just make sure that if you meet someone online, though,
Starting point is 00:35:38 do a group chat, don't, like, be separate. or let the woman talk to the other woman, but like I've noticed the most recent issues when men are trying to set it up with some girl they used to fuck or a girl they know that's down and then you're feeling insecure about it. And even me, right? I've had so many threesomes
Starting point is 00:35:55 and my partner and I are non-monogamous but like there was one girl. We were in a city. I can't remember where we were. Maybe we were in Tulum and he was like, oh, this girl I used to fuck from Toronto's here. Like she's dope. You'll like her.
Starting point is 00:36:06 So, no, no, she's don't. Like, he's 43. You had some pussy before. Oh, we love that. for him. Yeah. And honestly, he's been around guys. I fuck because I'm a hoe. Bro, like, it's... Plus, I be in industry shit. And, like, guys, there's like a guy or two I fucked in the industry and they've been around it. My man is super chill. Right? Like, when he knows he's been around a guy I used to fuck, he's chill about he's cool. And that's attractive.
Starting point is 00:36:29 So hot. Oh, my God. I wanted to suck both their dicks right there. Yeah. Yeah. Dude, it was my last live show, January. And a guy used to fuck was there. My ex. And my boyfriend. And my boyfriend comes in and he sees him there and he's like what out bro and he said he was a fan of his work that shit turned me oh my god he was like I love your shit and I was like oh like he was just so confident and my boyfriend's only six feet and my ex is like six eight so it's like and he's taller and bigger than you and you're like I like I like your shit da da da da and was like gave me a little slap on the ass I was like come on big dick top oh a little slap on the ass too that is like the icing in the cake good for you yeah
Starting point is 00:37:11 The best thing, while I'm on stage, not kidding, because we had a VIP table. So these girls start taking a picture with him and they're taking a selfie and my man is like, I got you. Dude, I was, mind you, I'm talking, I'm on stage and there's like 600 people there. Fucking New York Post was there. I was like, and I noticed it and I was like, this is a hottest shit ever. That really made me like really fall in love with them. But anyway. That is sexy because some people take that as like a beta bitch moment, but he took it upon himself to be like,
Starting point is 00:37:41 I am so comfortable on the situation. I want the best for you. I will get the lighting and the angle right. It was just like, that's an older guy thing too. They're just kind of past it. So the girl from Toronto, he's like, she's super fun and like, I don't remember why he. Oh, you know what? I think we were going to do coke or something and she was down.
Starting point is 00:37:58 Something like that. He's like, she's fun. She's got drugs. I'm like, okay, let's go. We go. She was fun. And then she said something about me being pretty or touched me. And I was like, okay.
Starting point is 00:38:10 And I said to him, you know what? It's not like I wouldn't be down for this, but there's a part of me that, like, knows she is your number. And what if you guys start talking about it together after? That would make me feel uncomfortable. I don't know if I can handle that. And then maybe like she misses a dick and wants it by herself. Because sometimes in a three-sum, I'd be one dick alone. So I couldn't do it for that reason. And I think you got to be honest when you feel insecure about those things. Yeah. Because if we're not vocal about it and we just put ourselves through it, you feel way worse.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Well, also, just orgasming alone is all mental. So I could see in a threesome, if you're your head isn't right and you're like fighting your own emotions like how are you supposed to come yeah it's very hard to come if you're thinking about too much or if you're thinking like i don't want them to kiss or you got too many rules like hard so when you're doing i'm going to call them adventures because you are adventurous and you're on this sexual journey that is so beautiful during the explorers my plenty of fish name was free spirit 407 and i remember people were like girl just say you a hoar horror with a capital W free vagina 407
Starting point is 00:39:15 free vagina sex house hashtag but I love that for you I want to know in these things that you experience are you doing it for the orgasm because I feel like you're not like you could just orgasm by yourself like what is it what is the goal of it all you know
Starting point is 00:39:35 or like is it not about the end result of like getting that orgasm it's just different ways to like The threesome's. Threesoms, but then also, like, trying out, like, BDSM or, like, being on a dude. I'm excited by new stuff, though. And I'd want to, especially with one person or even myself, let me not even include him in it. Actually, don't even talk about him on my podcast anymore. Because I felt like I started, I would think that people are like, do they think I'm doing this for him?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Or do they understand these experiences are really mine? This is very hard to talk about how many threysms you're having with a man in it not seeming like he needs this from you. Like, no, I want these things. I want to have fun. I've been dating you how long. Like, we got to do some new shit. Yeah. I really believe you get tired of fucking somebody out of year after a year and a half. When I say you get tired of fucking them, you just got to start doing something new. Like, you just have to. Fuck somewhere new in the house. Start saying newer shit. Like, it is what it is. So I like the threesomes mainly because I'm by and it's a way to do both of it together. And I, I am in it for the orgasms. The
Starting point is 00:40:35 orgasms are different. For sure, they're different. We know what I make you. each other come easily right you and your partner probably the same like if you know what you need to have a quickie you know how to get it in but when someone else is in the mix and it's like kind of you bring someone home and it's exciting like ooh is it going to happen it's a high it's like yeah it is a high that's it yeah yeah and you chase different highs like even though you're still having orgasm it's so much it's more fun you do a lot of these things where do you get your confidence from I don't know I wonder if it's like
Starting point is 00:41:10 that's a really good question where do you get yours from you're like you coming from me right now I'm just kidding I don't know your answer because I don't know mine I feel like my confidence comes from like accepting
Starting point is 00:41:24 that this is me and no one's like me and like I'm not trying to be an ideal something like I like my unique like long-to-term horse so and like sturdy legs and like no one's bodies like that and i can own it and like i'm owning it i actually did now that you're saying that um there's something that hit me recently like when i lived in orlando people would uh always talk about how i was slutty or too wild or too loud or
Starting point is 00:41:53 just talk shit about i get the too loud a lot but when i move to new york they say that if you don't feel like home where you're from new york will give it to you i didn't feel like that at all it's real thing. It's got chills. Why? Because that's, I'm from Brooklyn originally. So, like, growing up here, like, it's cool to be different. Like, if you walked into school with, like, a two, two and a basketball jersey, people were like, that's dope. We're, like, growing up in a small town, if you're not all doing the same thing and wearing the same thing and playing with the same things, then if you're different, you stick out and you feel horrible about yourself. So I grew up in a place that, like, celebrated that. And also, like, I'm, like, Italian, so I'm from, like, a loud
Starting point is 00:42:32 that like women run the show i mean i also have a little jewish in me and i was going to say brooklyn okay i'm i'm well of course i've low jew in me because i'm from i'm from new york but like that's just like i guess the culture i come from and i've gone to places where like women have to be listening all the time and like not take up space so i've gone to place where i feel like a fucking idiot and new yorkers are more welcoming than people think oh yeah like i feel like before i got here i was like oh everybody's they're going to be asses about i've only been here for a little amount of time or this or that i'm like they don't No, because New York will eat you up and spit you out.
Starting point is 00:43:02 And I feel like anyone... L.A. is like that, though. L.A. will definitely remind you that you're... Oh, like, oh, you're new here. Oh, I do this. But New Yorkers have not made me feel like that. No, I feel like any... I feel like if you're here for three months, I'm like, welcome, you're a New Yorker. Anyone who's surviving in New York, like, you have respect for it, and it takes balls
Starting point is 00:43:18 to come here. And it's a melting pot. Like, even like, my family's immigrants. Like, we can't... No one's, like, really New Yorkers. So we're all just coming here to, like, chase a dream or just be around the buzz and be around the excitement yeah and it's also a place where you're not alone really like there's so many people it's hard to be alone um that's really helpful too like i think new york has really helped me be a more
Starting point is 00:43:40 of a social person but so the confidence like yeah new york showed me that i wasn't that bad and also there's a lot of acceptance that came when i think when i was 25 i just really became comfortable myself i hated things about like how i looked or my teeth or my hair like I used to straighten my hair so much and wear weave all the time. And now it's just like, oh, I'm going to wear braids and just do whatever because I can. But I don't know why I was doing that. Like maybe it was just something in my head. But it really was a life-changing thing for me because in Florida I felt like I had to assimilate,
Starting point is 00:44:19 whereas in New York there was no rule book or any structure. So I think that that helped a lot. And I want to make sure that people understand too, like by no means am I shitting on a small town? you live in. I'm just saying that the one that I'm from didn't make me feel good about myself. Yeah, you want to find a place that you feel welcomed. And some people do, like, I know so many people who are thriving in their small towns and love that lifestyle and it brings out the best in them and their family and their beliefs. And then some people like go against the grain and like I'm terrible with authority. Yeah. Yes. That should is amazing. I'll be so happy when I get out.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Do you know that, dude, I learned this. I don't know if you heard this on there, but they don't even have they don't believe in pictures because it's like vanity they don't have pictures of themselves when they were kids like they don't know what they looked like as a baby like what it's wild but with you like it takes balls to go on a podcast and talk about your like sexual endeavors and you're not just talking and interviewing people about sex like you were experiencing yourself like I respect for that like some people like will just ask about it honestly that was why horrible decisions I feel like was so important to me you know like um it's funny I actually I actually said this to my friend Sophia recently like I did her podcast and call her daddy was such a
Starting point is 00:45:34 big podcast and you've done you know Alex's show and horrible decision's been around for a minute and a few years ago people would start to tell me when I had a sex podcast they would say like call her daddy and it would really hurt my feelings at first because well you're an OG you've been doing this shit for a long time what guys guys we fucked was really first you know what I'm saying yeah but when people would say that to me. I was like, no, not like that. And it would really piss me off. And I tried to like understand where that feeling was coming from. And I remember telling Sophia, like, it's because I really know that I'm having these experiences, doing them, teaching the community, how hard it is, putting shit on the line for it. And it like, wasn't that cool to be a slut? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:21 At first? No. So it felt harder. And also, I had to learn and understand that, like, that's just wasn't my path like you know what the way that that show grew um was just what was meant for them mine took more time well you were in corporate america yeah what was your gig oh i was a sales exec sales engineer i worked for a telecommunications company installing like ethernet and shit deep down did you feel like you run the wrong path no you felt good you're making money but now i know why i wasn't like horrible decisions was for fun yes my co-host and I started it because we were two corporate women that were still hosed and I wanted to talk about it because every sex pod um like I had never listened to guys we fucked but they were comedians or people were like in entertainment I was like oh but
Starting point is 00:47:08 we're regular people can be host too right which is funny because the premise of what we started on when we quit our jobs because the show got so big yeah it's like damn but like we're losing that now I'm like no we're not we turn into business women she opened a subscription company. I opened the studio. Now I'm in production and consulting with fucking for audio. What's your sign? Pisces. Pyses. Pyses. My mom's a Pisces. I like you.
Starting point is 00:47:32 But you have like a, you have a boss energy. That's what I was saying. Like, you have leadership energy. I felt like I was just supposed to be winning in my life. Really? Like she has, but she, she leads by like very example. Like she's very kind, but you don't cross her. But like she's, it's not like an ego power trip, but she's like the best leader ever. And I sense that. similar energy with you, we're like...
Starting point is 00:47:53 Because I've had really bad leaders, right? Yeah. One thing I... This is my first time having this many employees. I'm like, I want to make sure that I'm never talking to them. Like, they have to do something or I don't do it with them. Like, right, we just had to move the couch. I want to make sure we're doing that together.
Starting point is 00:48:11 This girl picked up the couch with everyone. And I'm standing there. I was like, oh, should I move the couch now? Because they're partnering with me. They don't have to be here. It's a choice. Yeah. And it doesn't do me any good to just be like, oh, they work for me. They do this. Pick this up. Like, no. They don't owe you shit.
Starting point is 00:48:31 We don't. You know what I'm saying? God forbid, I end up losing one of them. I'm fucked. I don't know how to do this shit behind there. You know, like, and I think that that's what all really good leaders. You know how people say everyone has to be a waiter at some point in they're like, it's that shit. If you don't do it, if you don't lead by example, then you have nothing. Yeah, like you know all the shit you've talked about to your best coworker friend about the boss that you hate. And you just think like, I never want to be that boss. About one about paying fare. Like literally when I opened the studio, I figured out what other studios are paying people and I pay everyone $10 more. If not more than that, depending. I want them to get commission on all this stuff.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Like if they have to do extra work like production or taking notes, I want them to take like 80% of the money for that. Like because they're putting in the work. The equipment's here. But they're really doing this work. And I think we all need to realize, like, I can't talk shit about corporations and then be that person. Actually, my accountant told me recently when he saw how much I was paying out employees that this wasn't smart because of profit share. And I was like, dude, I'll be in business forever. If my money grows slow because I paid well, I'll never lose anybody.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Yeah, because you could go cheap and just keep regurgitating people. They leave. And no one's ever had fucked up video come out of here. No. So what I was supposed to do, just get someone to be like paying 15 bucks to press play and then people shit look crazy? No. I can't be the girl that's literally documented talking about they're not paying people enough. They're not doing this.
Starting point is 00:49:58 Also, I had people come for me, Hannah. So Jordan, who's doing our episode, she's a black woman behind the camera, right? And I literally said I wanted a black woman to work here. People told me I was racist. I was like, dude, you don't understand. I've been making money on black people. You mean like listeners? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:15 Oh, like writing. white people were applying for the job and then telling me I was wrong Oh well you can't be racist against black people Let's just start with that But I know All the pods that come here are black mainly right So I'm building a business off black dollars
Starting point is 00:50:31 What the fuck do I look like not trying to hire black people And on top of that It's just not fair to have made money on this journey Through a certain type of people And not give back in that way I should be trying to do that But this is also where change happens where you've worked your ass off to become the gatekeeper.
Starting point is 00:50:49 So you are now the gatekeeper to allow people like you to get those jobs that other people who are gatekeepers would not let them have. Facts. Because we've all had that bad experience. And I think I needed, I think that was part of my journey. That 9 to 5 was part of what I needed to see. I mean, we talk about comedy where I started to book my own shows and I started to realize like, oh, if you book more than like,
Starting point is 00:51:15 three black people in the lineup people think it's a black show and that's wild because if you think of most lineups actually that's kind of sure it's three white guys one girl one black dude yeah that's so then there's not another girl one black dude i'm telling look at the fucking lineups so i started realizing like oh i can get crazy up here as a gatekeeper and have like all women and not call it a female show when you're like performing to a black audience i want to know what jokes hit harder is when they was when you lean into white girl shit because black people love watching white people talk so funny because I haven't we haven't done comedy since the pandemic since BLM and I did my first like black show and I was the only white comedian and like it's cool to see what in the community people are joking about and there's a they're like shitting making fun of all the stuff from like black guys matter yes every I mean the Karen. It's fun to talk about this shit but you just have and then I'm going up about to do like astrology and cat jokes and I was like you just have to own into it but it's so funny because like they loved it they laughed and they If I had been weird about it or, like, awkward, then they wouldn't have had fun.
Starting point is 00:52:18 I know. But it's like, because they're not telling me they don't want me there. They just want me to, like, listen and, like, be there and be a part of it. I just have this conversation with a friend of mine. That approach is so much better than, like, the, I have to be just like you. I actually went to a comedy show where there was one white girl. And when I tell you, her tone changed, like, the black scent was thick, bro. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:52:40 It was bad. Oh, no. also people are most comfortable when you're being authentically yourself yeah I would say like when I'm with my girlier friends like I'll get a little girlier like that just happens but I do think that like in the comedy space it's important to like you're not funny if you're not just being your vulnerable stupid self you know who does that well um I love him to death Andrew Schultz he supported my show for a long time Andrew has grown his audience it's a lot through Charlemagne doing brilliant idiots and i went to his show in dc and it was all knicks i was it was so black hannah that i remember
Starting point is 00:53:17 being like yo what is he about to do up here? Andrew was wearing a shirt that said white land like vice land with the same font and i was like oh my god and he told a slave joke and everybody laughed so hard and i remember thinking like why the fuck then you tell this joke but it was like oh like this is my set yeah all these black people here they know who the fuck i am well that's it they know him and they know where he's coming from right like it's to me when people do that like people will support you we're not as like black and white as we all think it is and you just are who you are it makes it so much more comfortable and it's funny because afterwards like one of the girls came out to me and she was like oh my god I watched summer house
Starting point is 00:53:56 like I love summer house and I was like you need to come in my pod and then next you know I have this whole different entrance into like also the humor it's important for me to hear that like what they're talking about versus like maybe like the Brooklyn niche crowd and like they're like smart jokes. I know. The club crowd where it's like all the white dudes that like you try to get in. I've seen that too. And it's important to just like in the comedy space know what everyone's joking
Starting point is 00:54:20 about for you to become a better comedian and for you to know how to speak on shit. It's just important. You can't be living in your own little funnel and think you know shit. If we don't open ourselves up to that, like that's why I've been trying to listen to different pods because I was kind of for a while only listening to stuff in my demographic. And I was like, I don't touch that at all.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Why don't I talk about this? And like, it's important. But the only thing that's, I will say, that's different when your niche is black, is when I have white people on my show, which is very seldom. So the show is based on like trying to destigmatize kinks for the black community, right? So we try to bring on black kinksters and black kinky people so that people understand it's not just white people should. WPS. I stole that from Broad City.
Starting point is 00:55:05 But when we have white people on, I'll always have a few reviews about how we were talking too much shit about it. And it's like, bro, this is our own space to talk about wigs and how they be falling off. Yeah. You're not going to hear that on something else. And like, this is the, this is who we're speaking to. And I think someone left me a comment like, this is why they're not as big. They could be bigger. And it was like, bro, I hear you. But if it has to be black shit for it to, then fine. That's what the show is. I can't just blanket it to everyone when that's really, I can't speak on anyone else's experience. If I'm sucking black, brown dicks, I'm going to tell you.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Like, it's a hard. Well, it's funny because I also, I co-host Bravo's chat room, which is the first ever Bravo talk show that has a black female showrunner, and I'm with Portia and Giselle from Housewives and me. Oh, I've seen those clips. You see, okay, so they're the fucking best, but like, and we talk about everything. It's very personal, and like they started to do like a bit about edges, and I was like, wait, wait, wait, like, I have a lot of black friends, whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I don't know what edges is. edges are and they like had to go into and explained it and then like but no one was mad no one was like because i wasn't about to talk on something i didn't know right and when you ask i love when my friends like genuinely asked no they loved it they did like a whole lesson like full lesson and it's important and i i do think that especially with the internet and comedy and podcasting it's cool to be able to i mean podcasting is all about connecting right think about everyone who's given you you know it's good about you bringing up edges like you might have seen you know last year when we George Floyd black people were like it's not my time to teach my white friends about racism yeah that's true yeah that
Starting point is 00:56:46 conversation I don't need to be teaching you should google it but edges I'll tell you and one of my friends recently really wanted to know why I wear a bonnet and it was so funny because she was like I don't want you to have to teach me I need to know I'm like I didn't know what she was going to say and I was like she was like so no you were getting mad I was already because I didn't know what was going I was like read a history book bitch is this the end of our friendship so she says I thought bonnets were to protect natural hair why do you wear it with the braids why are the bonnets necessary I was like this is so important bitch thank you and now she has one in her house for me right that makes you so happy this bitch calls me in the day with the bonnet on it's so good because it gets my hair out of way for my makeup but it's beautiful and I do have to say about the podcast community it's all about connecting and you actually i think dm i've known about you were supposed to do it i know we were supposed to do it i'm glad we didn't do it but you were
Starting point is 00:57:44 but you were very like open to me being like i want to go on your podcast and i was like a thousand percent because sometimes you get nervous like oh she's you know she's famous or like oh she seems like she's too busy she's in l-a all the time you do see you me i thought you were talking about yourself oh i was talking about you i'm in my bed you're a tv bro you've been on your tv star okay right before we play our final game because this is definitely gone way too long but i i can't i have to go with momentum when i have it um it went too long i mean it's going question where are you at with your like anxiety depression your mental health like where are you right now so my shit's really good right now i'm not gonna lie she goes i'm floating on a cloud but it's interesting because
Starting point is 00:58:30 throughout the years like when i was doing my show like i used to first starting to do my show and it got bigger you get all love in the beginning and then when you get a little too much bigger it's like everybody hates you and but right now I'm loved so it's okay but the internet really contributed to a lot of my depression whether it would be directly at me or obviously everyone listening as in a podcast or on tv but sometimes you click on instagram and everybody's just looking so great and you're not or like everybody on facebook is pregnant and has a kid and like even though like kids are terrible you still feel bad y'all have one it's shit like that even though you could have one all the damn time.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And bitch you might have had an abortion, but now you manage ain't got a family. That's what it was a choice. It was a choice. But also like, I don't know why I picket fence. My depression 100% would come from the internet. And just in my thoughts, they're so cancerous. If it's one bad thought, it's another,
Starting point is 00:59:22 it's another, it's another. Spiral. And you know when people say you have to go to the gym to feel better? That helped. Even though nothing was really changing on my body. Well, it is mental. Like sometimes I'm like a dog. I just to be taken for a walk just i need to go for a walk yeah like you checked something off your list winter time is very difficult for me yes it's good you're aware of those habits oh it's like girl it's giving
Starting point is 00:59:44 split my wrist i have a friend straight up who's like i suffer from seasonal depression it's like the summer she's talking about it did you ever buy a light no bro my shit was bad i bought a fucking light my first new year to new york if you guys don't know what i'm talking about for seasonal depression aka s ad they sell these sad lights and it's like really bright and it's supposed to give you vitamin D and I would face time my friends from Florida and they're like bitch what it's going well you're also from Florida so like this shit was different having this like depressing dude when COVID first started I moved to Mexico for like seven months good for you because and people were like oh it's so white privilege of you I was like bruh all I did was just like fucking
Starting point is 01:00:22 sublease my apartment also you made money to be able to do it right and Mexico was like 800 bucks a month it's fucking Mexico it's so funny the people that come for you and the people that come for me and like the different angles they do it because of our different races well because i have other white women coming from me so they're not doing that they're doing just like who knows what they're doing but it's funny because you're you mentioned like you want to come up and you want to be have a something successful and people love the come up but then once you become like cool or like liked it's cool to not it becomes cool to not like you I had this conversation recently. People do love a come up, but I deleted a post about something I was proud about.
Starting point is 01:01:06 And Questlove, who I had never met before, wrote me and was like, what happened? I was just about to comment on this, and it went away. Wait, I didn't know her. Seriously. And it was on my story. I was like, oh, like, it's like bragging. I shouldn't do this. And he was like, yo, I don't know if we were taught this, but like celebrate your wins.
Starting point is 01:01:25 Stop feeling guilty. he's like this is bullshit he says don't make jokes about like one day when you're this speak everything as if it's happening right now and for all the things that are happening right now if you want to share it with everyone he was like somebody will tell you you're a bitch for it
Starting point is 01:01:40 or whatever he didn't say those words but like someone will hate it and someone else will be inspired they're projecting their shit on you and you don't want to not be able to inspire other people because you don't want to get that like little backlash of people who don't like their own shit there's a way to be arrogant and not yes but as women society likes to control our confidence level
Starting point is 01:01:56 to be like, oh, you have to gain confidence and do this. And then once you are confident, people are like, oh, she's feeling herself. Or like, oh, people have said about one girl, she said, she's too big for her britches. And I was like, have the biggest bridge you can have. What are you talking about too big for your britches? Why? It's just when you're doing well with your own stuff that you want. And the weird thing is, which I would, I could say I probably could see with you,
Starting point is 01:02:24 people like when you're relatable but there will become a point where you may not be anywhere and like that's what makes me feel like I got to push myself back down well that's the joke with amy schumer like she's so funny and relatable but then you know her life changed so much because she got so fucking famous that like when she's joking about her day to day it was just like fame is weird right and like people were just like I don't really connect with that but that's not her fault like her life changed so much and like my life changed a lot in three years and I think I always was like the relatable like girl who's really down to earth and then like I started to date a hot model and people freaked out I got some money but I also'm like I'm a minimalist I just want to pay for food but money does change I'm sorry money doesn't change me but it's really who I would have been if I had money anyway I wanted to eat this food and now I'm just going to do it I spend all my money on food what dude my favorite restaurant is Lucienne on first and first I go there at least three four times a week to the point where two people that listen to horrible decisions have been like I knew you
Starting point is 01:03:24 you were going to be here. And I eat there so much. Spend $90 every time. And I'd be like, oh, this is why I had to get rid. You need to invest in them. I was like, God, I just want to do something. Like, let me give it. Let me do a post for something. Let me save some money. But I remember thinking to myself, I'm eating as cargo and like, did money change me? And I'm like, you just couldn't eat it before. You always wanted it. But also, let's not overlook that what you're also doing with your money is putting into a business. That's growing stuff. Because that takes real money out of your own pocket to be like, I want to invest it in this to grow long time.
Starting point is 01:04:00 I mean black on Joel. Not so anything. Go to Omar's kitchen, last laugh. I'm trying to think of all the black shit. Oh my God. Okay. We need to wrap it up with the final game. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:15 This has been amazing. We've talked about fucking everything because we both talk fast and we've made it here. Yeah. It's been a long journey in hell. It's time to play the seven deadly sins. Okay. Seven Deadly Sins What are you greedy about?
Starting point is 01:04:33 Money. She didn't even take a breath. Why? I have a lot of money security issues. My parents, when I grew up, like, were really, they had, I didn't even weren't rich, but like upper middle class. I lives in a huge house. But also it's Florida, so.
Starting point is 01:04:51 That's true. Maybe they ain't had a bunch of money. No, but, like, my first car was. a jag you know what I mean like it my parents had bread like we went on vacation all the time there was nothing I didn't have it if I didn't want it and when the stock market crashed my parents lost our home oh wow and it's no shade to my father he was a great dad really you know provided for our family but money security is crazy and I like try to save every dollar the only thing I'm not greedy about is money for other people well that's that's joy I try to tip well yeah it makes me feel
Starting point is 01:05:19 good and I also heard that money manifestation people say the more you give the more you actually receive that is true i really believe that kind of like sex oh it is i love that it's not like parts but it's like yeah it's like i know you got pissed off in that of comparison the beginning we did not mean to say it's enjoyable like farts but anyway farts you feel good sometimes okay right especially when you've been holding it in who were you envious of right now um damn i don't really have a lot of jealousy feelings but for the last few years i've really been leaning into my Buddhism, dude. I love that.
Starting point is 01:05:57 That's the only relation I've gotten like... Because there's no God you have to, a weird thing you have to pray to, but like... Detaching from anger and that kind of stuff. I really wish I could say someone, so just to make that point, but I don't know. Can you give me the like top line Buddhism concepts that you really like? Yeah, for one, like, just like we were talking about the money, like, karma is a real thing and energy is so transferable. the way that it shifts things
Starting point is 01:06:24 like when you're good to people it either makes you feel good or someone's just giving it back it's just like it's going to eventually start happening if we were all doing this I treat everything with love you know I had recently said on in an argument with my co-host
Starting point is 01:06:41 like we were arguing about something we fight a lot and we just were both so dominant that I was like I'm sending you love like we were yelling at each other in the middle of it and I'm like I really want to like approach this with love I don't like you right now but I love you and like I feel like I have to say that so she understands so I understand why we're here and I don't I think that if you don't approach things that way
Starting point is 01:07:06 then you're always going to be angry it's very hard to be that way in New York by the way yeah everything makes you want to beat everybody's ass it's always violent it's always like I want to punch it on the street this car but I want to curse you out with love but I'm going to curse you out with love and there's a lot of sharing in it because they believe that that's what they're supposed to do, right? Like Buddha was a man who was give himself. And I don't know, it's weird because religion never really attracted me so much, but Buddhism did. Because I think the only thing with Buddhism is you just have to be a good person.
Starting point is 01:07:36 Yeah. And I think that's why good things are happening to me. So that I've really been trying to be a good person. And whether I'm like trying so hard for it to be karma, it just makes me feel better to be good. So you're saying that hose can be good people too. Yeah. That is the moral of this podcast. Look at Amber Rose, Slot Walk.
Starting point is 01:07:51 Oh my gosh. Only fans, they give a lot of money to taxes, infrastructure, education system. I did a slut walk in college. We love that. It was fun. What do you glutton us about? What do you overindulge in? Ooh, girl food, French food. Food is bad. Dude, like, I eat a lot. I have an egg allergy, and I think if I could eat like cakes and stuff, I'd be way bigger than I am. Wait, you can't eat cake? No, I'd be eating the vegan cake at Whole Foods. Thank God for the area we live in. We live in the same neighborhood, right? Yeah. Bro, it's so like... Artsy. I know. And they have options of everything. It's so bad that my friends are just like,
Starting point is 01:08:26 bitch, what is wrong with you? No, it's like lame. If you eat normal cake in the Lower East Side, people are like, ew. I know. I just need a little vegan. They're like, no, totally. They were like, we have a donut made from cauliflower.
Starting point is 01:08:37 I know. That shit is dumb. I eat like nobody's business. And by the way, vegas really be trying to make, like, act like they better to me. It's just like, girl, okay. I'm just saying, like, give me a little bit of healthy.
Starting point is 01:08:48 But recently I was in Atlanta, not Florida. Mm-hmm. And I went to this coffee shop and I was with one of my head aspirins. You asked for oat milk? I asked for a macho milk milk. She said, bitch. Oh, how did I get the milk out? That took me down, bro.
Starting point is 01:09:04 Because I don't know the answer. I have out of an oath. I have no clue. Valid question. They were like, you know, they do look at. It's called Brooklyn Magic. We got skin. I was like, but bro, I will shit my pants.
Starting point is 01:09:16 You have to say you will shit all your way through Atlanta. They don't even have salad places there. I was talking to my friend the other day. I was like, do you guys even have salad places? And she's like, no. We just, I'm like, how are you not four? Bloody vegan. They got it.
Starting point is 01:09:28 Yeah, slutty vegan. Is that the only one we all know? That's a black owned restaurant. What? I didn't know. I know slutty vegan for sure. Jordan, are you vegan? I'm from Atlanta.
Starting point is 01:09:37 Oh, so she knows. But I'm from Atlanta. I've been there in like five years. But I know slutty vegan for fucking. Bro, everybody does a line be around the block. Like, and to eat good in Atlanta, like healthy? It's like, this is not what God wants. But slutty vegan is so such a good brand.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Right? Go for them. Imagine if I was being a damn. Portia Williams from Atlanta, legit, we'll crave ham. Like a ham. And she gets her assistant and she goes to get her a ham at night. And a glass of warm milk, I don't think she is. And we'll just go down on it.
Starting point is 01:10:10 And we'll be like filming chat room and she's like, I'm craving ham. And it's wild. It's become a theme. That's probably like a salt thing. Yeah, I don't know. The texture is I was like just put it in the toilet. I'm craving ham. Um, when was the last time you experienced extreme wrath?
Starting point is 01:10:22 Like, do you have an angry side to you? Oh my God. Yes. Bro. So, like I said, I've been trying to approach things before. When someone is intentionally being nasty to me. Yep. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:10:36 It's very difficult for me, dude. It's very difficult. I have a really hard time with faking. Yeah. Um, you'd be good on reality TV then? Don't do it. Don't do it. Don't do it.
Starting point is 01:10:48 Don't do it. Someone's going to hate me. And then I can't like. on the bad comment yeah that's what happened to me they're gonna call me ugly i finally got you know i finally got angry that's what happens took three seasons and it takes so much for me to hit a breaking point with someone but you do and i hit it my third season and i knew what these people were trying to come for me for me for and i knew they're trying to make me look bad and i like took the bait and it's just like fuck you fuck you fuck you like you can't help it but that's what happens
Starting point is 01:11:12 to nice people dude this happened to me yesterday i was in the atlantic airport after a five-hour delay i realize how this sounds you guys and i apologize for it so i was I was in the Sky Club, went down because I thought I had my flight. That means you're good and strategic with your cards, right? Bitch, okay? That takes skill. Yes. So I go downstairs, I get Bojangles.
Starting point is 01:11:30 Because we're high, lowbrow. After the Sky Club, because I went to get my free tequila, whatever. So I get the Bojangles, and then I realized the flights delayed. So I take the bojangles, I go back up. This girl screamed when I walked in. She was like, you cannot bring outside food. And I looked at her, and I said, did you think I wasn't going to hear? you when I was coming to scan my
Starting point is 01:11:51 boarding pass? And she didn't say anything. And I was like, but I love telling people when they're wrong. I was like, did you realize that was unnecessary? Or you didn't realize that was unnecessary? Because it was embarrassing. You say in that convoice? Yeah. That's scary. Right? That's some scary shit. I was like, that's embarrassing. And then she told me, you can be embarrassed. I'm doing my job. I said, no, now I'm going to embarrass you.
Starting point is 01:12:15 Because you know you with act out of control. Then the hand comes out. So then, oh, we get that. even better. I'm sitting there right after I go downstairs but all you had to do was put it in a bag and like they wouldn't have given a fuck right like they're being sticklers yeah I went downstairs to go eat it come back up there was another flight that was delayed now this van comes up three men in suits with bojangles do you know she walked around the counter to tell them that they couldn't bring it in here's what pissed me off I went to her and I was like are you serious I was like so it was okay for them she's like oh well apparently my job how I do my job is wrong so now I can't go over and
Starting point is 01:12:49 be quiet. I was like, bitch. No, you did it to me. You did it to me. I love how you have this full vendetta with this girl for like during the five hours that you're there. Her name is Tiana. She got called out because you think I'm not about to write a complaint. She about to docks that girl. And I never write complaints against black people because I was like, you know what, we went through enough. But bitch. I love you of public enemy number one, Tiana. I'm not kidding, Hannah. Don't let white people do something wrong. I'd be like, get the fuck. Let me go on you up right now. I'll have a Facebook page, but I'm going to make one and write on this business. But when black people do something wrong, it's just like a restaurant.
Starting point is 01:13:25 You're giving them, like, all right. No, you know, you can't do that. I can't do that. But there is something fucked up about when a dude and a suit is getting treated differently. That makes my, that makes me upset. Now I have breath. When was the last time you were a sloth, so like a lazy piece of shit? Because you have multiple podcasts, you have a TV show, you are promoting your shit all
Starting point is 01:13:49 the time. You were socializing. You were having threesomes. When do you sleep and do nothing? Dude, everybody asked me that. I am really bad in the morning. So luckily, oh, it's bad. And I, mind you, I don't know how I had a nine to five, but, so I actually have a new job, which can't, I'll tell you later, but it can't be announced yet because this person hasn't announced their deal. But that's why I've been in L.A. so much. And I've been helping to run it. And now that I work on PST, oh, bitch, I'm not getting up till 11.45. Good for you. Because I'm a groggy bitch till 4 p.m. Ooh, it was bad. I was on a call. They called me at three and, you know, it's still like afternoon for them. And I was just getting up. Just getting up.
Starting point is 01:14:37 And in the morning, it's really bad. I don't know. But I think that the creative, like when you're creative, I hate that word. I'm a creative. That's why I explain my rooms a mess and go, I'm a creative. do you really i'm a creative i can't have my brain so organized i need to be free when it's really just cluttered as fuck free pussy 407 but the creative shit you do have to be up at night yep like if i got to write like a script or work on something has to be at 1 a.m. yeah you don't wake up at 6 a.m. feeling fully creative you have to like be in your feelings at 2 a.m. questioning the purpose of life and that's when shit comes to you yes yes you know i thought that i i i don't know i just felt like when
Starting point is 01:15:13 i was in l.a like they always have it together they're like so how Hollywood. So I'm working with this white girl. I'm not even kidding. Because this is, as someone who's white, this is a white girl shit. She goes, why don't you just take out her all? And I was like, sometimes I do, but like, then I can't eat and it'll last too long. She's like, dude, do you have to snort it? Because I joke that white girls are snort in chlorophyll right now. Like whatever college in, they're just like, snort that shit. Wait, that is so funny. And we're at the Soho House when she says this, okay? And then when she says, there's a stall. We all go to.
Starting point is 01:15:46 I was like, so then my response is like, shouldn't we just do cocaine or something? Like, why's North Adderall? She's like, no, it just like hits you harder. You can do your job. We won't like last song, you know what I mean? So, and then you're also like, she was wearing a blazer. Yep. Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:00 Just matter of fact. Do you remember that Kat Williams joke when he talked about how they were literally, this was one of my favorite things. I can see you. I can see you. Yeah, we just need you to do. And he's like, they do it in your face. That was my only experience.
Starting point is 01:16:14 But then it's also funny because. they're so healthy well you're like oh like i'm not gonna get hungry and they're all like yeah that's a point i know like that's the point i hate going to a business dinner where people are on drugs i'd be like yo i hate i'm gonna eat the free and then yeah i finish my friend's food too i love it like i'll eat mine i eat there so it's always fancy food they're ordering but i'm yeah no i've never done adderall because i'm scared i get really spacy yeah yeah and i have bad ADD, which it makes it worse. Yeah. Well, I just stick on. I took Adderall.
Starting point is 01:16:46 I would, no, in college, I had friends who would take Adderall, but they would be like playing video games. And if it hit while they're playing video games, they'll never get to library and they'll play video games for 12 hours. Or like, I'll take Adderall in college and I'll start talking my friend. And the next thing you know, I need to know all about her life story. Oh, now you're invested in something, but it's not what you need to do. Exactly. So you're like hyper-focused on this person you don't actually care about. And then it's like three hours later. I cleaned a vibrator that I haven't used in years because I only, I only use vibrators, really.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Just because the Adderall, like I was cleaning, and I saw the vibrator, and I was like, this got to be clean. It was bad. It was like 30 minutes. I boiled it. I was like, what the bad? You boiled it. It was so bad.
Starting point is 01:17:25 Okay. This is the toughest one. When was last time you let your pride or your ego get in the way of something? I think that I do it all the time with horrible decisions. Sometimes, like, like I said, you know, when my. co-host and I are going through something yeah if I'm angry with something um it's very hard for me to do my job and maybe I had let her like been angry at her so I'll have an attitude towards her which is a terrible listener experience there's hundreds of thousand people listening to this
Starting point is 01:18:00 yeah they didn't come here for this shit but if I'm bitchy you know what I mean because of my ego like I'm not going to be nice to you fuck you yeah it's like I'm losing the point yep and I think the thing that has to ground me all the time is like, okay, this show is bigger than us. And her and I say that all the time when we argue. And by the way, I don't know any like podcast duo that doesn't argue. Like your faves, they're fucking arguing. So for you, the true, the successful ones are arguing. Bro. When there's five years of podcasting with someone. That's next level. When you have money to spend touring, we've been on so many tours, bro. Touring, speaking engagements, doing TV appearances, like, you don't fight. I like that you're honest about it because
Starting point is 01:18:40 I've spoken to some other people and they're like, yeah, like, we're just really special. I found this, like, business soulmate. Where I know Paige and I have, like, two modes. We have, like, Paige and Hannah friendship. And then I'll be, like, I'll be talking shit. And they'll be like, hey, business text to let her know, like, this isn't personal.
Starting point is 01:18:54 I like that. This is, so, like, we'll be, we have our business avatars where it's like, don't take this personally. But, like, you need to talk to your agent about this, like, ASAP. And this isn't Hannah. This is, like, business Hannah. And we almost have this, like, separation. That is nice.
Starting point is 01:19:08 E-mailing helps, too. that is what my co-host and I do now a little more casually like hey did you post blah blah if that's a text but like oh to show like this is separate yeah that is very helpful and actually now one of my best friends I opened the studio with
Starting point is 01:19:23 and we got in our first fight and I was like I don't want you and have to really learn how to speak to each other and he knows I'm really emotional our birthdays are one day apart we're both super emo and like it's hard you have to you're you can't not fight you have to become good at fighting yes and you have to be like super honest a purposeful argument
Starting point is 01:19:44 yeah my hardest thing is i can hold feelings in oh no so like i'll be i'll be good like i'll be the chill girl until i'm not dude and then i'm never talking to you again this is this is how my shit spills over i'm just like let me do you me that is how my shit works i don't even fuck if you're how if it's like you're at a funeral i'm like i need to say something but that is healthy to an extent And to an extent. There's probably an in-between we could find. I wish I had it. Okay, this is my favorite one.
Starting point is 01:20:17 When was the last time you lusted over someone? Like, do you have a celebrity crush or, like, someone that you're obsessed with? Could even be the guy at the bodega. When I was in L.A., Sophia and I went to Poppy, fucking Drake comes in. Shut up. And this is my third time seeing him this month at a party. So you're dating. I felt like that.
Starting point is 01:20:37 I was like, oh, he knows me now. He's obsessed with me. I don't want to fuck Drake because like he's not my type but also at the same time he's so so you wouldn't fuck Drake I said all the time like he's not my type but like in the moment you'd be like for the story I'd fuck Drake this Drake girl like and we're the like two black Jews we got to oh I forgot who's a black Jew yeah for the community yeah for our babies yeah yeah so we're she was so funny she's like so we're not going over there I was like bro no because like another rapper invited me to the clubs I can't be like this when
Starting point is 01:21:08 they talk and be a groupie and I've been in very intimate spaces with him it's like maybe parties of 20 so I like locked eyes with him and I was like he didn't recognize me at all and my ego was so bruised and that made me want to be more do you know how sick that is I don't even be I've never really been like drink so hot to yeah yeah ever but after that I was like now I got to fuck them which is so dumb wait I love these like L.A. Cini parties you're going to dude oh because I told you about one earlier. Yeah. So is that what people do in LA?
Starting point is 01:21:41 Like just certain famous groups, like have like intimate houseports to act like normal people. I've been working for someone that's so black Hollywood that he doesn't even realize when he's inviting me to parties that they're too big. I walked into a party. True story. Yeah. The first one he invited me to, he was like, oh, like, you got to meet this writer or whatever. And I get in there and the first person I see is LeBron James, who introduces himself to me as L.J.
Starting point is 01:22:06 And I'm like, that's what he goes by? I think he's just saying that because he don't want to say the we're on. Yeah. Like maybe if you meet Beyonce, she might be like, my name is B. Yeah, yeah. You know, but I don't even know if he goes by that. Then there was Michael B. Jordan. So this is like the A plus plus plus list.
Starting point is 01:22:24 I had no idea. I was going to this party. And I knew it was a tequila party. And I knew that there was a writer. Did you like your outfit? No, bitch. But here's what made it worse. Oh, one guy knew me there.
Starting point is 01:22:34 Thank God. Thank God. He's like, oh, are you wheezy? I was like, damn, fuck, come on. Give me something. Yeah. So then my ghetto ass, I'm in there. I see Cuevo.
Starting point is 01:22:43 I'm like, oh, because I just loved the red rat shit. I love Cuevo. Right? While a Drake song, this is the first time I saw Drake. While the Drake song comes on, I'm getting a cocktail and Drake walks in. While his song is coming on? Yeah. Like a full music video.
Starting point is 01:22:59 It's crazy. Drake is in so many songs. I'm like, does he dance to his own shit? Like, what do you do at this point? And there's something maybe only like, I would say maybe. 30 people at this party and I was like bro I cannot handle all these people so then I'm telling this guy after I get drunk I just see a guy next to me I was like yo it's this too many famous niggins in here I don't know what to do and he starts laughing he was like right I was like yeah what do you do he's like
Starting point is 01:23:21 I'm the singer his name is givion I've been playing his fucking music for at least two years you know I'm talking about yeah I've heard of him so I feel like I was so embarrassed so then he starts laughing because I I yo it was just bad then you feel insecure because you're like wait now I'm ever respond to you you're not even safe i was like shit i don't know what to do and i hate when you're so self-aware of how you're acting and then you're like how do i act and how do i normally act i forgot who i am dude i just felt like i had to lean in the fact that like i shouldn't have been there yeah so it was really weasie's true hollywood story mind you the next day lebron is almost suspended from a game because of the party that i was at and i was like damn i ain't even in a background in none of these
Starting point is 01:24:04 pictures i can't even say nothing nobody When I told my friends, I was at a party with LeBron, Michael B. Jordan, and fucking Drake and all these people, they were like, all of them. Yes. And then when the pitcher came out, I was like, that was it. I swear I was there. Dude, I almost posted it. And I was like, I wanted to tweet about it and then I couldn't. Then last night I went to Diddy's party, right? He had a party midtown and like, I don't know what the fuck it was for. bitch french montana was there meek mill whatever mark anthony was there i was like yo shouldn't but jalo but did he like i just went to puerto rico and mark anthony is there sinatra it's playing everywhere did you go to the rainforest i did i did shrooms there
Starting point is 01:24:50 oh yonke yeah that shit's fire that shit was so lit yeah i love puerto rico randomly a summerhouse fan was there a giggly squad fan was there and i was like oh my god like you know you're going there for like I got recognized in Puerto Rico and my ex was like see I told you this shit was getting ghetto I'm like just black people know me fuck Puerto Rico was so fun anyway we're all but um but no like when when going into parties like that one thing I have really learned is like celebrities are so comfortable on each other like people were taking selfies with Drake and I was like but y'all famous too so I was confused yeah but that's a real thing and these parties like you're you almost feel like I don't know there's a there's a reason
Starting point is 01:25:37 I'm here but like should I be here these are all normal people like I don't know it's it's almost weird to get lusty but the one thing I have told myself because I know I've been going back and before I was telling you about some of the stuff from the other night um I was like I can't fuck anyone in this because right now when people ask me what I do I tell them I work in podcasting and shit I own a podcast studio and I work in production now So it's like, oh, I really can't fuck one of y'all because I might have to work with you. And I want to make sure that everyone respects me in what I'm doing, which is why I can't throw my pussy. You know how hard it is not to fuck somebody that's a fucking millionaire, bitch?
Starting point is 01:26:13 There was another guy at that party that wanted it. And I was like, damn, fuck. Like, it was giving. I would have had to sign an NDA. But I was like, I can't even fucking do this because, like, I got to be respectful. So, you know what I mean? Like, now it's just I got to fuck some Amazon Prime dude. you're like, it's hard when you know the pussy's so good that she could throw it anywhere,
Starting point is 01:26:34 but you have to control with great pussy comes great responsibility. It does. But I want to be like a, you know, a business swamp. Yeah, but I also think like you don't have to choose. But then it's funny because back in the day or who knows, the pussy got you in the industry. And now it's like, you know what I mean? Yeah. So I'm confused what we're supposed to do with the pussy.
Starting point is 01:26:53 Technically, I think our looks get us some places. Yeah. And then you, like, being talking to. Because I know there's like a funnier girl out. there who like maybe isn't as conventionally cute as me but like here I am like this is a funny ass bitch that should probably be in this seat but you know what I bought tits but I do think it's important not to have that imposter syndrome when you're at those parties because it's like you didn't trick anyone to get there yeah you didn't break into that party and like go through like the back
Starting point is 01:27:19 like you got invited there but it's also shows you like the meta of situation of reality like fame is such like a social construct and then like when they're all together and same levels they could like calm down kind of yeah they don't feel weird well and they were talking about normal shit like I went to this dinner party with the woman who I was saying earlier who is huge one of the biggest celebrity I'd say in the world and when she started talking about her car and how it was getting on her nerves found I was like you worry about that stuff you drive still you don't have a driver like I was so confused and she said that like she just I wanted to like you know when you're trying to act like you're not looking at someone yeah I was sitting next her
Starting point is 01:27:57 and looking at someone else while they were talking and she's behind me saying like I don't know what to do with it like I took it there twice I mean I don't just I mean I've got another one but it's my favorite car she's like I could switch the Lambo or the other seven in my garage shit yeah it was really interesting well the point burning hell is to get these like people who are celebrities or have things people don't have and be like we're still suffering from whatever one thing I learned newer content creators and like new people that aren't that celebrity that are at these spaces are the worst i ran into no i ran into ziway who has a huge show on showtime right now we love ziway everybody at the party was on her dick
Starting point is 01:28:38 and like they were so excited for her and they didn't know her at that dinner party and that was really cool for me to see because they were all giving her her flowers and like she's new at this but they were excited for her and even i was and like and i didn't you know you don't want to say something to someone but like i just feel like getting more nervous around ziway than drake yeah what's funny about Zeeway is I met her at this like stupid party where like some people with followers were invited to and she didn't she had like 5,000 followers and she was the nicest person at the party to me and we just started talking shit and she randomly asked me to do a show in Brooklyn this is like two and a half years ago and she's a comedian she's comedian and she's doing like
Starting point is 01:29:19 just like kind of a very alt stand-upy type show like very performative very Brooklyny and the crowd was like not that big but they were loving it and I remember thinking like oh wow she's so smart and so clever and so unique but like there's only like 40 people here damn and I was like I was like shoot whatever blow the fuck up I know I feel like I've heard her name nonstop the last few it's because she's she's being authentic to herself no and she had me on the lives early baited with Zway to like the brace bait me and it was like early on and then fast for like she just someone who's authentically was herself, but it's funny, they do like the come up, and they like to be able to see, like, the new shit before you get affected and sick of the fame.
Starting point is 01:30:04 I think that people that are, like, that up, they know what's good. And when they're watching her, and they see it, they're like, oh, you should be here. You're going to be bigger than this. Like, people love to watch that new girl. We all do. Yeah. And it was just really cool to see everybody at this party trip over her when, and no shade to her, like, she wasn't the quote, biggest celebrity. Yeah. I also think, I joked, like, oh, the newbies, but like, there's a lot of content creators, not like Zeeway. I'm saying just like people who pop off on TikTok or something. Who the fuck is Addison Ray, dog? Like, I'm so confused. Look, Zeeway is someone that like you watch and you get inspired. I will watch Addison Ray and I'm like, wait, what the fuck? I just found
Starting point is 01:30:43 out who she was like a week or two ago. I was like, and then the other white girl with the brown hair, what's her name? Yeah. What's her name? Say it. Is it with a D. Carl or, no. Charlie DeMilio. Bro, she ain't even that cute. She's going to dancing but it's it's again she's good at dancing hun this is what i saw like no specifically tic-tok dancing but like moral story i'm scared of l-a dude you got to um party with me because like i when i took sophia to this shit i was like girl we are going to some black shit tonight she was like i'm ready but like when we read this party yo it was so funny i had her with these gang bangers at this party i really hope she tells this shit on her podcast but
Starting point is 01:31:23 i had to tell her like it was hood as fuck and the rapper we were is known for, like, shooting people and shit. And she's there with his fucking security guard. And he was on her ass. And mind you, people are coming up to Sofia. Yeah. Like, everybody, like, you know, that show is so big. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:41 So whether it's got a large black following or not, like, people still came up to her. And he was like, hey, yo, what's going on? Why are you over here? He didn't let us go to the bathroom alone. She felt so safe. She was like, oh, yeah, he's so scary. Yeah, it was fucking hilarious. And just thinking about it, like,
Starting point is 01:31:56 when you cross those worlds over like it's so different i was about to say like that is the remix that like we didn't know we needed oh me neither i told her like next time we come out here you need to invite me because now it's a plan we i'm like we have to go back together we had so much fun i'm like i need to go to the white shit because i love house music right like dude i used to go to raves so much back in the day like love it do you remember dub step yes girl i just went to one in Orlando for a weekend and it was like what the anyway i was like you need to take me into the youtube or shit bro because i don't want to what that world is like i want to see what they talk about i want to see the lips i want to see the
Starting point is 01:32:30 kiley faces like i just want to know have you ever wanted to do plastic surgery on yourself i got my boobs done other than that no i thought about veneers because of my overbite and i was like really nervous when i went on like did my tv show so like my teeth are going to look so bad on tv but i was like all right fuck it maybe it'll just humble me that'll make you relatable maybe i'll go further in life michael strahan got that big ass gap you know what i mean like Do you remember Michael Strahan did the April Fool's that he got a fix? I lost my damn mind. I was like,
Starting point is 01:32:59 this is fucked up society. Like, I went to all these rants. Did he really? Because he did it like smart. He like, he like, um,
Starting point is 01:33:05 breadcrumbed it. Like it was before April Fool's where he started like talking about it. Oh, I didn't know that. He was like real smart about it. And I was like, how could he let society tell him what beauty standards are? And then I was like,
Starting point is 01:33:16 I'm a dumb bitch. I'm just shut up. No, I hated it too. I was in that fucking comment. I was like, you were beautiful the way he were. I love his big ass guy.
Starting point is 01:33:24 You can just take your finger in it. He's sexy, yeah. But he is. And I'm like a little older daddy, but I don't know. It's weird. Like, I think that at first, like, it made me want to change myself a lot, Instagram. And then I was like, okay, well, fuck it. Now I feel different at these parties. Yes.
Starting point is 01:33:40 I love that for you. Because also going on TV, you see yourself way more than you normally do. And you see these, you're going to be seen by so many eyes. But then it's also like, don't you want to be what girls see? Yeah. Don't you want them to be like, oh, she? she has teeth like me or like her i've never seen teeth like hers fit her face the way it does and it's i feel like there's some anyone how it's naturally god made you or whatever yeah is what like
Starting point is 01:34:05 you can't look that fucked up there was a guy who said something and it's funny because my own insecurity really got me um at one of these parties i went to he was like uh what's up with you what do you do and i was like i'm what do i'm i know you do something he was like i know you doing a little something with your life i was like why do you say that because uh i'm not as hot the other girls here and he was like no because you're not wearing as much makeup as them you look chill he was like it looks like you can stay on your own like you have confidence in something besides your looks meanwhile i was like why because i'm not pretty that was funny because on my show summer house people are like hannah you are the most relatable
Starting point is 01:34:40 one i go you call me the ugly one he said i'm not that hot like what the fuck anyway to wrap this up i have a final question for you that i ask everyone hey when you're going through your hell. When you're going through your dark time, what advice did you give people to cope with your hell? I would say erase whatever's not making you feel good. Let's say you're in an argument with your boyfriend. He's got to erase him. For the moment. Sometimes we overindulge in things that don't make us happy. Like when I'm arguing with my boyfriend, I need to talk to them more or fix it. And I'm scared to give it space, which is silly. When I'm freaking out about like money or finance, like I just stop for a moment right like I'm like how am I going to get all this done sometimes
Starting point is 01:35:26 you need to take breaks you need to breathe and I think another time another thing I do to cope with my hell is I ask for help which is not easy but I tell people when I'm down bed and especially when you're the boss that was hard when we were building the studio I was having a really bad day and I just like was crying in here there was someone drilling I was like I didn't get a moment and you know what like if you could just give me a fucking second but But granted, I don't know if it's good to be that vulnerable in front of someone that you need to be a leader with. But I really do try to lay it out there because I think when you ask for help, people can be more kind to you. Like you need to tell somebody when you're going through something so that they're not.
Starting point is 01:36:05 And they know you're human. You're not this ice queen. Yeah. Even though we shouldn't be because like we can't. Like we're influencers. We're perfect. I am. He doesn't fart.
Starting point is 01:36:17 I've never farted or charted or even thought of pooping. Um, wheezy, where can people watch you, listen to you, follow you? Give me the goods. Okay. Sex sells every Monday at 11 p.m. Eastern. If you don't have views, get it. I think you pay like $1.99. Worth it.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Worth it. It's so fun. You'll love it. Horrible decisions is also every Monday. My co-host and I interview people about their kinks. And if we don't have a guest that week, we just, oh, man, we get so sloppy and fun. People love the solo episodes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:46 Yeah. I'm sure you know that. Like, do you not have a guess? And when you don't have a topic? Sorry, guys. They love that shit. People in the comments, I love when you spiral. I'm like, you should watch me at home.
Starting point is 01:36:58 For facts sake, every Tuesday where my co-host, Eddie Delisepi and I, we talk about random facts and we just Google them. It's fun and chill. And what else? Come by the studio. If you're a podcast or a content creator, we can make your videos. We're super affordable. It's in Soho because I had to, babe. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:37:15 Mm-hmm. Yeah. I love that. Well, thank you for coming to hell. And we'll talk to you guys later. Bye. Hi!

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