Berner Phone - Workplace Annoyances

Episode Date: September 28, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hi, it's Hannah Burner and Des Bishop. Thanks for calling the burner phone. If you leave a message after the tone, we may have to make it into a podcast. Hello, our little dialers and welcome back to Burnifone. It's Des and Nicole. Here we are. It's early, though, right? It's literally not that long since our last episode dropped.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Of course, to the dialers, it's been a full week. But actually, we. we're actually recording this Monday afternoon 4 p.m. Eastern time. So I had to go to the Instagram to get the messages in for our prompt. Essentially the prompt is what's pissing you off at work. And I had to rely on Hannah. So some of these messages came from Hannah's Instagram post. Because when Hannah posts, we get quite a lot in a short space of time.
Starting point is 00:01:03 So, you know, every now and then we rely. on the forefather. What's the female what's the feminine of forefather? Hmm. Is there one? I guess there isn't.
Starting point is 00:01:20 More, this is just another example of the patriarchy. Are forbearers, right? Isn't that a term? Forbearer? I think forbearer. Is forbearer the feminine
Starting point is 00:01:32 of forefather? Is that where that comes from? Did we just discover this? It's possible. I thought you were Googling. I thought you were already Googling. It's too soon for Googling. Come on.
Starting point is 00:01:46 So soon. Listen, Joe Rogan's Jamie wouldn't complain. I know you wouldn't. And you know what else? You never hear Jamie typing on Joe Rogan. Because he's sitting like 300 feet away from Joe. It's got a full studio. Actually, one of the reasons why, the main reason I haven't done Joe Rogan is I haven't been invited.
Starting point is 00:02:07 Okay. But one of the reasons why I'm glad, one of the reasons why I'm glad I haven't done Joe Rogan is, I just feel like that studio stinks like cigar smoke. A million percent. Have you been in there? No, but I, like, why would I ever go in there? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:23 No, I just, I don't know. You could have been like touring, you know, you're doing, you know, you film and I don't know, like, you know, maybe you were in there with somebody that you work with. No, I'm not doing like vlogs with Joe, but I would bet that it also smells like cigar smoke. Yeah. Can't handle that.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I actually, it's one of the things that would bug me about is having to sit amongst that. Do you know that giant wolf that they have in there? Have you seen people taking pictures with the wolf thing? I haven't. I only ever see clips. I've never watched like a full thing. It's actually so scary. I'm going to show you.
Starting point is 00:02:58 Oh, here we go. Visual, we really need to start showing more clips. Oh, that's great. It's an actual wolf? This is just in the studio. See, this is not burn a phone energy. This is not burn a phone energy. By the way, dialers, in case you have a wonder if our conversations,
Starting point is 00:03:22 wow, that is screaming small penis like I've never seen before. This is like the lobby of his studio. Wow, that's like, welcome to the den. Like the wolves. That's great. That's not an actual, it's a fake, it's not a real, it's not stuffed animals. Yeah, but I didn't really know how to describe it other than Wolf, but imagine being the producer that has to go set up the studio and turn on the lights every time.
Starting point is 00:03:48 And you see that thing there. It's so scary. Warrior. But in case you're a regular listener of the pod, one of our conversations really has, it's starting to develop into a bit for my current show. Because the sauna conversation, were you working by the time we were doing the Miami Miami sauna stuff. Yeah, with like the dude bros, like the red pill guys in the sauna.
Starting point is 00:04:11 Yeah, the guy that was talking about how like the man's job is to work the field and the woman's job is to, you know, prepare the food home. And I didn't have the confidence to say, like, are you a farmer? Well, that story has now is evolving well in the show. Whoa. If anyone's going to come see gray area,
Starting point is 00:04:29 I have a good section about fragile masculinity. Because, you know, this whole, I don't want to get too into it, but this whole concept of toxic masculinity, it hasn't been a productive conversation, has it, because men just get defensive, right? But what I think is better is to actually shame them about what is essentially insecure masculinity. So like essentially things that they do to overcompensate for things they're concerned about themselves. So I think fragile masculinity and insecure manhood is a better way to get at men than sort of toxic masculinity. That's my current take.
Starting point is 00:05:14 So anyway, I'm basically shaming men for some of their takes that I consider based on their own fragility. So anyway, that has been, oh, I was just going to say, why am I talking about this? And it was because Joe Rogan has a wolf. inside his door. You guys really got to look at a picture. Otherwise, I would never tell you to look up anything to do with this man, but you need to see the wolf monster thing that is in the lobby of his studio. It's really scary.
Starting point is 00:05:43 He also has a giant Buddha or something. He has a giant Buddha? It might be the wrong deity that I'm referencing. A giant golden statue. Interesting. Is it deity or deity? I don't know. Come on, this is our favorite subject on Berthaphone, bro.
Starting point is 00:06:03 I'll Google this time. Okay. I'll Google this time, okay? No, because yours is going to give you like the Irish version and then you're going to be right. I get both. I get both. I get both. Guys, if this podcast should just be called pronunciation phone.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Well, it's brutal when you like say something out loud. You don't say out loud a lot and then everyone clocks that you said it wrong. But I'm not trying to catch you out for saying it wrong. I'm actually concerned that I've been mispronouncing it. No. You're trying to say that I'm wrong. No, I'm not okay. Here we go again.
Starting point is 00:06:37 We've got another. Hey, we need to get some, um, we need to get some like, some stings. So it's like, hey, culture, culture pronunciation class here on clash, here on burdophone. Guys, you know, our favorite subject is to find out when Americans and English and Irish people pronounce things differently, even though there's not somebody with an Irish. Saxon to be found anywhere on this podcast. Des doesn't know when his pronunciations have changed. So the way you pronounce it, deity is
Starting point is 00:07:07 the American pronunciation and deity is the British and Irish pronunciation. So there you are. We've encountered another one. One of the highlights here on Bernifone, as you'll find throughout the year, we're busy discovering moments of different pronunciations, but there's no
Starting point is 00:07:23 shaming of mispronunciation. There's only learning and growing here together on Burnton. a phone. So, anyway, thanks for all the feedback. The Spotify comments went hot fast on the old religious trauma, which was great. Spotify comments been quiet lately, but the religious trauma brought out the comments pretty fast. So today is what's pissing you off in the workplace, but there was one little bit of feedback from last week about Irish history. You want to just play that one, just to wrap that up.
Starting point is 00:07:57 Hi, I actually think a full Irish history app would be very interesting. I'm not quite sure how a prompt could work for that, maybe like an inherited Irish trauma situation. Like, for example, my family has roots in the North and West. I'm actually named after a County Claire. But there's got to be ties like to why there's at least one alcoholic in each subfamily group, why we all find a way to laugh or a funeral. I don't know. You know, why do my elderly relatives split a can of soup for dinner
Starting point is 00:08:32 because they're afraid they'll run out of money or food when they literally had an insanely successful career and will not be running out of anything in their lifetime? But like, oh, I feel like we could have the prongs where, like, people are calling in with that and then you're kind of tying it to the history. I don't know. Maybe it makes more sense to open the prompt more generalized
Starting point is 00:08:51 than just Irish. But I feel like we have enough Irish. or I'm trying to send dialers, and I feel like it'd be very interesting to hear Dad's dive in. Just a thought. Just a thought. It's a good thought. It's a good thought. I mean, I would never do that in terms of it.
Starting point is 00:09:09 But no, no, no, no. I wouldn't do it just restricted to Ireland. What are you laughing? No, no, no. Because this is like the second week in a row where you were like, let's check out this suggested prompt. And you're like, well, so I would never do that. No, no, no. I know what you're trying to say.
Starting point is 00:09:24 but it just is coming off so hilarious. I'm only halfway through the sentence. That's why I haven't finished my thought, right? So. That idea sucks. I would, no, I would never just do it for Ireland. But what she has, just from listening there just now, what I am thinking, this is not the prompt for next week
Starting point is 00:09:43 because I have to think about how to phrase it. You need to prepare. But I do like the concept of, like, what are the stereotypes about your culture that you think are based in like reality, right? Because a lot of cultures have the same stereotype, and they're like, oh, it's such an Irish thing. My mother always worries.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And it's like, okay, well, there's like 80% of the cultures think that their culture is like a worrying culture. You know what I mean? But like some of them are quite distinct and quite true, you know? And I think Ireland has in common with a colonized oppressed cultures, certain things that are quite unique to the culture. I don't know where the worried about money thing comes from. Obviously, it comes from like poverty and stuff. But my mother, you know, we had a pretty couple. We were just like classic Queens, middle class, you know. In Ireland, our sense our sensibilities would have been quite working class, uncouth. But financially, I guess, you know, like working class, you know, at the 80s, a lot of Queens people working what today would be considered lower level jobs. But they were pretty well compensated. certainly life was a little cheaper.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Anyway, we lived very comfortably. And my parents, by no means, were they wealthy, but they made some good decisions on the old investment front, and just they had their 401 case, which was like not, we didn't inherit like a ton of cash or anything. But my mother lived, from the day that my dad died to the day that she died, my mother lived as if her money was going to run out. She lived like she was going to run out of money.
Starting point is 00:11:22 and she died with more money than the day my father died. And that's with spending and not, she was not working. So she ended up with more money than when my father died. And she lived as if she was going to die with her last dollar being spent on her coffin, which is insane, really, when you think about it. So anyway, we'll think, I'm going to think about the phrasing of that. That is not the prompt for next week.
Starting point is 00:11:52 But if anybody wants to hit me up in the DMs with a suggestion for how we do that. But, you know, it's also problematic, right? Because you could get somebody who hates a different culture, pretending they're from that culture, being like that culture is like that. So I don't know if I've just walked into like a minefield. But anyway, welcome to today. What's pissing you off at work? Let's get into it.
Starting point is 00:12:12 Your choice, Nicole. All right. Here's this pissing me off at work this week. My one male co-worker, you know, he's 40s. He's the type. He consistently says, no worry. Like, no worry. I got you.
Starting point is 00:12:27 Even if you're bringing up an issue to him of something he's fucked up, like, hey, John, you didn't put this deal in, right? He's like, no worry. Like, yes, no worries to you, but now I got to fucking fix it. So, yeah, I can't hear no worries one more time. All right. This is it. Hannah, love you. Bye.
Starting point is 00:12:48 By the way, you will always notice a difference when Hannah puts out the prompt. It's always more like men suck, which I'm fine with. Berthaphone very much born out of a men's suck energy. So anyway, I guess this guy's not Australian, which makes it doubly annoying that it's not like culturally specific to something he would say. I mean, there is nothing worse than something. like belittling the seriousness of a situation, particularly when it's like their fault, you know? Like I understand trying to stay calm, but what I don't like is when like somebody, you come to
Starting point is 00:13:34 somebody sort of like miffed that they fucked up and they make it seem like you're wrong for being miffed. Yeah, I do kind of want to like adopt this guy's energy though because I say sorry way too much. Oh, but that, that. So if like I could flip that and if I fuck something up and usually I'm apologizing for something that's barely a fuck up if anything. So if I just start saying no worries instead, maybe it would change my life. Well, we need to find the happy medium somewhere between sorry and no worries. Yeah? I'll get on that straight away.
Starting point is 00:14:16 I'm on it. What about I'm on it? I'm on it. Yeah. That's neutral. seems good. You know? Neutral.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Sorry. Irish people say sorry all the time. Yeah, it's too much. I mean, because sometimes it's like, it's okay. Canadians get made fun of her saying sorry or something, but Irish, British people too. Sorry's like a big,
Starting point is 00:14:36 that's actually like, that's one of those stereotypes that goes across certain cultures. Because that's like one of the jokes that British will always, you know, like British people will always make a joke that like Americans will be like, this soup is too cold, you know? and British people will like suffer through the cold soup and then when the waiter comes over it's like, how is your food?
Starting point is 00:14:56 It was lovely. Thank you. It's lovely. Perfect temperature. You know, so there's all these like stereotypes like that. But I have to say the no worries wouldn't bother me. I think, you know what it is is that she's now, she's transferred her annoyance with this guy. And now she has like, now the no worries is like a trigger.
Starting point is 00:15:15 Yeah. But the person who, I have no problem. somebody who likes to stay calm in the face of a stressful situation. But what I don't like is somebody who tries to minimize for their own benefit, the seriousness of the situation. That I can't handle. So I don't know if John is actually the name of the no worries guy. I don't know if she accidentally named him.
Starting point is 00:15:41 The other thing about this too is like there's literally nothing you can do about it because you can't be like, yes, worries. Like there's worries. Because then you're going to sound psychotic. So you have to just accept him saying no worries and let it roll off your back and be like, okay. Like unless you're like a superior to this guy, there's no way you can really have a conversation of like, hey man, actually you kind of fuck this up. It is like pretty serious. Like there's really no way around it.
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah. And it's grammatically annoying too because responding with yes worries to no worries. I have worries and you should have worries. Yeah. Yeah, because it's actually, um, I have no worries. Right. So you, you, you, it's, but yes, worries is very, it's fun to say. It's actually like, that should be the new response when people like, no worries.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Like, no, yes worries, but it's grammatically incorrect. But have worries doesn't because you can't, it's can't say have yes worry. You know, like, it's just, it's one of those annoying grammatical things. You know what grammar? See, this is the problem with fucking grammar just doesn't like to play ball a lot of the time. Yeah, and saying have worries, like is ominously threatening. Yeah. Yes worries.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yes worries. You should have worries. Oh, man. You know what? Yes worries is like a t-shirt. I actually think yes worries should be the theme. The theme of Furnophone. Yes.
Starting point is 00:17:03 Worries. Yeah. Why are we trying to pretend it's otherwise, okay? AI is fucking getting, AI is rogue already. Right? Yeah. It's probably going to be. World War III. European countries are prepared for war. Don't know worries me. Don't fucking
Starting point is 00:17:21 know worries me. Yeah, that's really annoying. Yes worries. That's the theme of the pod. For some reason this also, this is like kind of a pivot, but this reminded me of do you have, you don't have an email signature, do you? You don't have like a sign off or you seem like you would be like a cheers guy. Oh, yeah, I've never been a cheers guy actually. Really? Yeah. Cheers.
Starting point is 00:17:49 It's common, you know, it's common like, it has broad usage in, obviously in Britain, but in Ireland too, and in Australia. But I've never been like a cheers guy. My brother, my middle brother says cheers a lot, actually. But when you sign off your emails, you don't have, like, you don't have anything there. You don't have like sincerely best cheers. I only say like regards on like legal emails. On legal emails. No, just regards.
Starting point is 00:18:21 It's not like well or good or anything. Like there's nothing before it. It's just regards. No, like in terms of warm regards. A lawyer says, you know, Desmond, the three issues that we were talking about with the seller have been resolved. Um, you know, please let me know, uh, what's a good date for you to come in to, you know, do the closing. And then I will say, oh, September 18th, uh, at 4 p.m. if that's possible. Regards. Desmond.
Starting point is 00:18:57 I guess I've never just seen plain regards. Like, usually it's like, regards or like, regards or like, have I ever bought a house? I'm 30 in an apartment in Jersey City. Um, um, Um, yeah. I'm, I'm generation shaming you. Yeah, you really are. It's too much, too much avocado toast and nice lattes. Yeah, which I don't buy that shit at all, by the way. But anyway.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Um, so. Yeah, I guess I've just never seen straight regards with no warm in front of it. But what I was going to say is so a lot, I feel like a lot of dudes in the corporate world use cheers to try and be like cheeky. But then when you send a serious email, it ends with cheers. You know what I mean? By the way, when I said I don't buy that shit at all, just in case people thought I was responding directly to I don't buy latties. What I was saying was I don't buy the criticism of trying to suggest that somehow Gen Zs are in this predicament because of their love for lattes and avocado toast. I don't buy into that trope.
Starting point is 00:20:01 So just in case there was any confusion there. Yeah, I mean, honestly, Hannah can tell you. My email etiquette is a little off, you know? One of my favorite emails from you of all the time was before we actually started working together when I was working on Karen Fein's podcast and we were like scheduling you on it. I could probably find it. But so as you know, Des famously part of his lore is that he broke his leg and tore his ACL while skiing. Is that the exact diagnosis? Correct.
Starting point is 00:20:37 So, and he was supposed to come on this podcast, like, the next day or something. And he emailed me and was like, hey, I'm going to have to reschedule. I had a wee accident. We. And I was like, God, he's so Irish. But we is small, no? Like, that's a huge accident. And I was like, yeah, man, no problem.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Like, we can totally reschedule. But a wee accident was such a funny way to describe this, like, you get an airlifted off a mountain. I wish I was airlifted. No, I was dragged. Down to mountain and then up a left and then down. Yeah, it's fucking frozen by the end of it. Anyway, yeah, no, I was kidding. Obviously, when I said, we accident.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I was kidding. I was kidding. I still was guilty, though. I still was guilty. That's the thing. I was guilty. That's crazy. You know?
Starting point is 00:21:29 Yeah. I think I felt guilty when I had to cancel a couple of things when I fucking had testically cancer. Like, I definitely had. have a little bit of that like like like the catholic shame you know it's just yeah of course it's tough to cancel on people but you were in like a full body cast or something no i wasn't actually i definitely oh i absolutely but couldn't but by the time i went i guess i cycled to that pod so i no you were in when you showed up i was like quite a ways after yeah i was in better shape then than i
Starting point is 00:22:02 ended up now. I ended up, that was before I had my, my kneecap incident, but I'm sure the dollars are not happy that you put up on me. It's more of the we, but that it, yeah, I guess it's like, I don't know, I just remember that making me laugh, but also as a fellow ACL terrorist survivor, I was like, exactly. I mean, that plus a broken leg, I'm like, it's like fucking crazy that he said we, but it makes more sense that you were joking now. I thought you were just being like, sorry. I'm so sorry. I was a bit. I was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it there was a tinge of guilt with just like having to let you guys down. So anyway, let's take another since we're,
Starting point is 00:22:42 I can't even remember how we ended up all the way over there. Oh, regards. Yes. The guards left us there. Yes. Can we move on to the next one sincerely, Des. What's pissing me off at work right now is it's always pissing me off at work. I have a coworker who is just so loud and messy.
Starting point is 00:23:01 we share an office. I'm with her 40 hours a week, and she eats loud. She, like, chews her yogurt. Like, it makes that disgusting noise. She always eats yogurt every day. And it's like, she doesn't know how to eat yogurt. She makes big messes. Her stuff is everywhere. She walks in the office with, like, six giant bags. She changes to go to the gym in the office. Like, there's just no division of, like, professional and personal, and she just constantly talks. Everything that comes across her desk, she has to say, while she's working, she says what she's doing out loud. Like, she'll be typing an email and say it out loud.
Starting point is 00:23:46 Kind of everything she does drives me crazy, and I know that. I don't think she could do anything right at this point, because everything she does is so upsetting. I'm so upset. This felt like a prompt made for me because I, I just came back from a vacation and immediately remembered why didn't miss work. I mean, obviously it went in because of the yogurt. Chewing yogurt.
Starting point is 00:24:14 But I get it. It's the separate. It's the when they're the yogurt and then they're doing the mouth separation thing. But you don't have to chew, like how are you chewing yogurt? That's why I feel for this woman. It's very difficult. And then it compounds, right? because then everything she does annoys you.
Starting point is 00:24:34 The six bags is like something that really shouldn't bother you. But at that point, you're like, ugh. She's like, the yogurt, the typing. There's nothing this woman can do. It's like she came in, she came in and gave me $10,000 in cash. But the way she counted the money in front of me was driving me insane. I hated the way she was counting the money. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I'm dying to know how old this woman is because all of her characteristics are so confusing and not like tied to an age. Like, the changing and going to the gym and having all the bags feels like it could be a younger person, but then the chewing yogurt and like the reading the emails out loud feels like a much older person. So I'm very mystified by this coworker. Oh, man, that would be a great, I feel like that would be a great YouTube series. Like, you, the person described, like, you go through aspects of like things people say and you can see some of their stuff. But like, and then you have to guess their age.
Starting point is 00:25:32 And like you win a prize if you're correct. Guess this woman's age. Yeah. Hosted by Desbishop. This person's age. It's not just going to be women. Guess this woman's age and wait. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:48 So that would be a fun game though. It would. Did you ever work in an office? No. See, that's why these ones are always entertaining for me because it's just like, I have to just go on people's frustrations. Because I never were. I had a couple of like jobs for cash. But I never had like a career other than stand-up.
Starting point is 00:26:05 And I definitely never worked in an office. And honestly, like the age where I would have been doing, like even like low-level jobs, it was like pre so much of this like email etiquette and just like just the way that people talk, you know, setting meetings and you know, all that stuff. So I'm really, I enjoy listening to people talk about it. but it's not a world that I,
Starting point is 00:26:33 that I visualize it in a way that has like, you know the way you visualize things based on experiences or things you've seen. All my office, like visualizations come from like a time I visited an office for a meeting or mostly from TV, honestly. Like, and honestly,
Starting point is 00:26:50 everybody here that messages in about my coworker, I visualize the same cubicle. Like everybody, everybody works in the same office. When they message in, I'm visualizing the same office. I wonder if these people know what office they work in in my mind. They're all in there together, all the little dialers.
Starting point is 00:27:11 Yeah, and it's probably so dated too. Like I don't even know if we're doing the type of cubicles. And like the call, there's a, there's like a weird coffee station on the left of my office. The elevator, when you walk in, just so everybody knows the office they work in in my mind. You, the elevator when you walk in, right, the cubicles are like right in front of you. And then you can take a left down a corridor towards like the offices against the wall, which are obviously higher level offices. But on the left for some reason, there's like a coffee station right there on the left.
Starting point is 00:27:45 What about the printer? Yeah. So I'm so bad. I didn't even visualize the printer. No, the coffee station is the most important for sure. But sometimes they put the printer somewhere near the kitchen area. in my mind. In my mind, the kitchen is after the coffee station, there's like a, there's a left-hand
Starting point is 00:28:02 turn, which is probably behind the elevators. There's a left-hand turn into like the kitchen area. The bathroom's. The kitchen area, though, is the one from severance. So once you get into the kitchen, you're in severance. Just so you. Okay. So that's, it doesn't happen in the elevator.
Starting point is 00:28:20 It's, you have to get to the kitchen before. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. The office is not connected to severance at all. The office is honestly connected to like 90s comedies, I think. I'm not exactly sure where this office, you know, I don't even know. But this may be influenced by the fact that I'm, I've been watching Dark Matter,
Starting point is 00:28:41 but I rewatch season one of Dark Matter because Hannah got into it, which is great. So I actually just rewatch the entire thing. And Hannah's up to date as of last night. So I'm fully immersed in Dark Matter. And I feel like, I feel like that little rant I just went on as a little bit. inspired by Dark Matter. But if you haven't watched Dark Matter, I highly recommend it. You know, it's like it's Severance-esque, but more importantly, I think it's like Dark, the German one, which also has to do with sort of other realities. And so we highly recommend. But let's take
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Starting point is 00:32:59 hey so something that visits me off at work is I work in the operating room and when we are doing surgery people have to get shaved in certain areas and usually the pre-op department will shave them or if they do it at home that's great but just know if you come to the operating room and we have to shave you. It drives me crazy when somebody shaves a patient and it is so bad. Like there is no aesthetic to the shave.
Starting point is 00:33:41 You could just have like a circle around your belly button. That's shade. And then you obviously have to fix it when you go home. Or you're a bikini line. Like you just have, it's just like a mess. There is no thought behind the shape. So, yes, a poorly shaved patients from anybody in medicine that comes to the operating room, I feel so bad for them. And that piss me off.
Starting point is 00:34:05 See ya. I mean, this is close to my heart. I've told the, since you've been on the pot, have I told the testicular cancer surgery shaving story? I don't think so. So when I had testicle cancer, when I was 24 years old, you know, you have a testicular cancer, when I was 24 years old, you know, you have. have to have surgery. You get, you get the offending testicle removed. And so, obviously, they don't tell you before they put you under. I think they might have mentioned that they would shave. I can't even remember. But when I came to, they had shaved half of my pubic care, only the,
Starting point is 00:34:44 the side that was being operated on. So I had like a, you know, like, like, like half an afro of pubic hair down there. But then recently when I had that second knee surgery, she came in, she shaved my leg before I went down while I was awake. That was the first time I had had that experience, which was, it was kind of weird. Like I don't know why she wasn't like, hey, do you want to do the most of it? And then I'll just give it a check, which she was there like fucking shaving away. It took ages to grow back, too, actually.
Starting point is 00:35:23 I feel like it's finally back. It took like three months to come back. But anyway, I concur with this lady because I found it almost like a practical joke. Like, it's kind of like when you black out at a frat party and you wake up with one of your eyebrows shaved. Like, I felt like half the pubes was. Now, I feel like today, because culture has changed so much and men shaving their pubes is so normal, I feel like today it would almost guarantee it to be
Starting point is 00:35:52 and actually to be honest I don't know why they didn't say to me like hey we're going to shave your pubs so if you want to look after that before you come in you know what I mean but then I don't know maybe they're worried that it's not a successful shave
Starting point is 00:36:07 yeah I guess it probably was extra jarring because you had half your pubes shaved and one of your balls is now gone well yeah there well there's a big fucking scotch there's a big cut gash where my pubs used be. Totally. On top.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Totally. The growback period was the, the itchiest period of my life. Oh my God. I can't even imagine. Yeah. It was like scabbing and stuff too. Yeah. Is this too much for everybody?
Starting point is 00:36:31 But the hair was like growing back through the wound. Ah. Another fun fact, I never fully got feeling back on the wound site. Still somewhat numb. Still to this day. Same with my knees. Yeah, me too, but me too. but yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:49 It doesn't impact me like it might with your balls. I still have a little bit of numbness actually in my in my, in my, um, front of my knee also actually. So. Well, let me ask you this. Where is the operating room in the office in your mind? Well, I've, because I've been in numerous operating theaters in,
Starting point is 00:37:12 in two countries now. I, I, um, I visualize the ones like I, When I visualize the surgeon in Ireland saying, do you want a silicone prosthesis? Like when they... What's that? A fake ball.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Whoa, you can get a fake ball? Yeah. When he asked me, you know, did I want a silicone jelly bean? But he said silicone prosthesis. That's the term he used. I'm not, I'm visual. I can remember it. His face, everything.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Mr. McDermott, I can remember it clear his day. Because you know, in Ireland, they call the surgeon's mister, not doctor. It's like a thing. It's like a higher, Mr. McDermott is higher than Dr. McDermott. Interesting. So Mr. McDermott offered me a fake ball, which I declined, by the way. I'm not a fake ball carrier. Was that a hard decision to me?
Starting point is 00:38:01 But I'm visualizing. No, well, I didn't, I didn't even know I was making that decision. He asked me right before they put me under. A lawsuit. I mean, I feel like I've told this, no, it's just like, do you want it? And I was like, no. You know? I didn't even know you could do that.
Starting point is 00:38:19 That's kind of epic, fake ball. Yeah, I'm going to find a good match. Yeah, is it like a breast implant kind of vibe? Yeah, it's just a little silicone jelly bean. Whoa, that's cool. Yeah, so anyway, I didn't get it. But yeah, so I visualized that. And then when I had the first knee surgery, I can visualize that exactly because the anesthetist,
Starting point is 00:38:42 anestis, anesthesists are anesthesiologist. Who knows? Not important. She was talking to me about skiing and talking about her husband, had torn his ACL, and had got back skiing after a year and found it difficult the first time, but then got his confidence back. And somewhere during that conversation, I was out and then you wake up. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:06 I didn't even realize they were doing it yet, you know? And then whammo. Whammo, slammo? Yeah, my first one, I think I, like, fell a sense. sleep much sooner because I didn't even remember getting the nerve block. And the second time, I was like, oh, you do that when I'm awake? And they're like, yeah. And I was like, I don't think they did it when I was awake last time. And they were like, yeah, they for sure did because, you know, we have to make sure, blah, blah, blah, whatever the reason was. But sometimes they give you like a
Starting point is 00:39:38 like a liquid volume. Oh, maybe they did that then the first time. Because I can't remember it at all. And for context, for people who haven't had this, at least for this particular surgery, it's like a big needle in your groin. So it's like really not ideal at all when you're awake. Yeah, that was really spooky. Yeah, because I got the liquid, I got the liquid value when I had testing the cancer surgery. And they were like, we just give you this to relax you. And when they fucking hit me with that shit, I was like, oh, because I was a sober guy. And I was just like, oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Everything's going to be all right. Right. My old friend. So anyway, I don't know, we keep going off on tangents, but that's okay. So let's take another. Hi, I was calling regarding your latest question about what's pissing me off. I don't want to say that I'm pissed, but I'm disappointed. I work in the service industry and I don't know.
Starting point is 00:40:45 what it is when people come in, they just don't see me as a human being. And I was feeling so bad about it that I started doing some research. And I came across an article that talked about how when people go into restaurants or stores and they're confronted with workers, they don't recognize us as full human beings. They see us as part of the scenery, which is why they're annoyed when we offer to help them in any way. because they're not accustomed to the scenery speaking, we're not perceived in a way that they recognize. And I don't know, I just found that horrifying.
Starting point is 00:41:27 It's a horror movie. But I feel that every time I try to help someone, they are annoyed by my presence, and it's exhausting. So what I found so interesting about this one is, I wonder how prevalent this theory is that people have like a perception of the people that work in the service industry as kind of like part of the sort of scenery like I wonder how prevalent that thought is but I can 100% appreciate
Starting point is 00:42:02 the frustration because there is nothing more demeaning than somebody who clearly thinks that you're less than them you know I'm only ever appreciative of people the service industry. However, what I will admit is that I think we have all been guilty in our lives of like when a salesperson is, when you're in the clothing store, just trying to like look at clothes and the salesperson is like on you. I try to be a nice person because I did sell clothes and I have done to, I have had done to me, you know, people just like kind of finding it annoying that I'm there, but also at the same time, it makes me uncomfortable when I feel like the salesperson is like on me. So I try to be a nice person, but I guess sometimes you can give off vibes of like,
Starting point is 00:42:58 can you just please just like, I'm going to do my thing and I will, I will come to you when I, when I need you. So I always try to balance those two things because I did one of the jobs I did when I was younger before stand-up was a retail. And, you know, you want to be helpful and not annoying, but it can be hard to get the balance right. Yeah, especially like at, I never worked at a restaurant, but from all of the people that I'm close to that do, especially in New York, it sounds really fucking brutal. And like one example is like that really bothers Chris because he works at a restaurant is when he gives his little speech at the beginning, like, hi, I'm Chris, welcome in,
Starting point is 00:43:39 hear this, but, like when he gets cut off and they don't even acknowledge him as a human being and they're just like ripping into the order. They're like, we're good. We're good. We'll take this. And they're like, you know, in the middle of a meeting or like they just don't treat you like a person. Like that's one of the things that bothers him the most, even though it maybe feels small. But it's crazy. It's one of Hannah's things.
Starting point is 00:44:00 It's definitely, it's got to be pretty widespread. My thing, too, is like I lose respect for people that treat servers badly. Totally. You know? I have no problem with somebody who needs to complain about. something, but I can't, I can't be friends with somebody who demeans staff or even like after the staff leaves, like makes demeaning comments about them. 100%.
Starting point is 00:44:26 I can't handle that. However, can I add that one of the evolutions of my lifetime is structured speech at the beginning of the process with servers, which I'm not exactly sure. there's certain things that have evolved that bother me, you know, how is it tasting? Have you noticed that is really creeping in? How is it tasting? Yeah. We still haven't evolved from like people asking that during the first bite though. Like no matter how they ask it, it's when your mouth is full of food. Oh yeah. I don't mind the check back in because that's the way you're trained because I was a server for a while in Ireland. And yeah, I was trained to say like check back in. And, yeah, I was trained to say like check back in.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I have to like a short period of time, make sure everything's okay. But there's a few things like, obviously the like, this is my name, I'll be your server. Like that used to not be a thing. Yeah. And he works in fine dining. So that like might make a difference. Like they have to do shit like that because they have to really like cater to you and, you know, whatever. No, I have no problem with the, but it's just like now it's just the norm.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Yeah. You know? There's a couple of other ones that. are like, you know, are we, like, when people are like, questions, like, are we having wine? Mm-hmm. Just, it's the we, the we bothers me, you know? Yeah. I mean, I'm not always right grammatically, but like, why are you including yourself in this?
Starting point is 00:46:02 Right. Yeah, I could never do this because the, like, my anxiety is way too bad. Like, if I had that job as a server, for getting one. tiny thing, I would wake up in the middle of the night thinking about it. Or like, I'd like, why the fuck did I say that? Like, why did I say it like that? Like, I would be running back scenarios through my mind for ever. By the way, this is not a criticism of service at all. It's a criticism. No, mine is a compliment. It sounds really fucking hard. This is not a criticism because I, this, like, this is the way the training has changed.
Starting point is 00:46:34 This is the language. Like the, the, the vernacular of being a server has changed. And the we, the we grammar has kicked in in a way it's like like what are we having it's like yo there's you plural that's really like grammar is so complicated in english but we have this one fucking easy out which is it's you single you plural one less thing to learn why are you fucking with the you plural it exists maybe we're just trying to feel more familiar like i but that's like their version of like let's circle back like i'll ping you later like their corporate like weird language they've adopted is that. They're told to say it. They're told to say it. I don't know if they are though. Are we having one? Are we?
Starting point is 00:47:20 But I'm not crazy right. The we has kicked in right? No, completely. But I don't know if that's like training or if that's like a weird thing that they adapted. Yeah, like language evolved. Yeah. Yeah. And again, it doesn't bother me totally. It's just, it's always like one of those like you're like, you're like, you're not having anything at all. Yeah. Get away from my table. Yeah. And, uh, And also, I, you know, sometimes like, it's not their fault because you just have to do it over and over. But like, for me, personally, I sometimes wish that it could be more like natural. But that's like a real critique. That's like a performer's critique of like, yeah, I know you're not really like this.
Starting point is 00:48:02 This is not how you talk. Right. Yeah. That didn't really happen the other day. You don't talk that way. This is not the cadence. this is not your cadence. But I feel like a DJ.
Starting point is 00:48:13 It's like a DJ. Like, you know what? Everyone makes one a DJ voice. You know what they don't make fun of? Server voice. That should be a good sketch. Like if two servers, two servers meet in the street, it's like, and what are we doing later? Anyway, sorry.
Starting point is 00:48:34 That's just me sort of like mining for comedy. But I'm pro server, by the way. This is just me having a bit of fun. Pro server. pod pro pro server here all day um anyway Nicole what are we what are we listening to next what are we listening to at the moment are we enjoying the prompts so far are we enjoying the prompts hi does I just saw the prompts about what is pissing me off at work and um currently what's making me mad at work is my coworkers are finding my personal TikTok account and ratting me out.
Starting point is 00:49:15 And then I blocked them from my personal TikTok account. And then they make new accounts to see my stuff. So now I have a completely private TikTok account. Oh, there's just so much going on here. Like, I mean, if they're ratting you out for what? like the shit that you post well you're gonna have to rat them out for fucking stalking you right yeah because like what could what could be that bad that you're posting that they're they feel like they need to snitch on you yeah plus also like we're all posting right like social media's
Starting point is 00:49:54 part of life like what are you doing what's the and also like well i need more information like what's the company policy around social media you know right like also what is your job like because if you're a teacher and you're posting crazy shit. Like I could see why they're snitching on you, but it's weird regardless. Like, just mind your own fucking business. I know. That's why my brother's a teacher. I never,
Starting point is 00:50:16 I very rarely post my brother. Like, I'm just very conscious of, you know, like the fact that my brother's a teacher, you know? And he's never been a big social media guy as a result, you know?
Starting point is 00:50:29 That's just, if you're a teacher, that is one of the things you kind of have to sacrifice, I feel. And like, I even feel, guilty when like after a show somebody come up, be like, yo, your brother was my teacher.
Starting point is 00:50:40 And I'm like, I automatically feel like a responsibility to not be like a pig, even though they're obviously like well older now and it's irrelevant. Shout out to the teachers, by the way. We're pro server, we're pro teacher here. Pro server, pro teacher. Yeah, I was just more kind of, I find this one kind of like one of those ones that I don't have a lot to say, but I find it interesting, which it's more like one of those things. I feel like people are going to identify with the,
Starting point is 00:51:05 the dilemma of social media and the workplace. Did she also say that they keep making new accounts? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's the stalker bit. That's what I'm talking about. That's really weird. I mean, like, that's bizarre. Like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:20 I would be, there's so many questions that I have about this. I would love to know, like, if, are, are all any, like, is this a friend group? Are they all kind of doing this together and, like, looking at your shit? And, like, reporting you? Like, what is this? Like, that's so. weird. Follow up please. Follow up on Bertifold.
Starting point is 00:51:40 Did you see, we got a follow up on last week's episode in the Spotify comments of the dialer who said that that crazy pastor called her and her dad a heathen. Did you see this? I didn't. So basically like because, you know, she went to another youth group or something like that. Oh, right. Yeah, he cheated on though. Yeah, but we were like, so why did you're, but why did he also say that you're a heathen like your dad? And it's because she's. I think she said her dad was divorced. Oh. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:52:10 Sorry. You know, it's funny, I did see this and I didn't, I was, I guess I wasn't focused. I really wanted to know, so I was looking for the update. First caller, my dad was a heathen because he and my mom divorced. He didn't go to church after that. Yes, that pastor was a psycho, and I have a lot of religious trauma as a 34-year-old. The shit has not hit the fan for him yet, as far as I know. Oh, that's what we wanted to know.
Starting point is 00:52:34 Mm-hmm. And then somebody, by the way, had responded. My friend's mom married a Jewish man, so she wasn't allowed to receive communion anymore. So he gave them a huge donation to put their excessively Jewish last name on a pew. Whoa. Very funny. Anyway, the religious trauma, really bringing the comments. Maybe I've avoided the subject of religion too much on this pod.
Starting point is 00:52:58 I don't think so. I mean, also, like, you did. for them to send in religious trauma and then it was like dead silent and then you had to be like it's okay guys you can send in your religious trauma now well yeah because I think I think we when we phrased it correctly I think we we got going no dark stuff so let's let's let's take a couple more before we wrap it up hi um I work for a politician so I'm going to remain anonymous um he's not well known or anything but just to play it safe um I am required to be at my dad 9 a.m. to 5 p.m., but I'm also required to work weeknays and weekends occasionally.
Starting point is 00:53:43 That's what it says in my job description. However, I'm working at least 7 to 8 hours on week nights and weekends, and we don't get compensation times. We still have to be at your desk. But the worst part, which I think Hannah and Beds and everyone will identify with, is that my coworkers who have children are not required to work nights and weekends. Only the childless people. people have to organize the weekends, which is, in my opinion, insanely unfair. Do I hope that have children someday? Yeah, but, like, anyone, let's say if I wasn't interested in having children one day, I would still be required. It's just insane. So that's what's pissing me off at work. Thanks. Wow. I'm not even aware of this as a thing. I haven't heard
Starting point is 00:54:27 about this much injustice since I heard about the cigarette breaks only for smokers. Right. What I love is, obviously, we'll disguise your voice. But what I love is you actually said the whole prompt as if you were telling us a secret. He was giving secret energy in her voice. Yes. But this just brings up the bigger issue of like, you know, the right to, what do they call it? The right to turn off or what's the right to?
Starting point is 00:55:01 There's like a term for like people fighting for the right. to like not have to respond to shit. Right. Haven't that they've made in other countries, I feel like they've made actual laws around this, right? Yeah. Yeah. But also.
Starting point is 00:55:16 Politics is one of those weird jobs. Yeah. Especially early on. Well. I was just going to say, do you have to like prove you have a kid? Like could you just claim you have a kid and clock out? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:28 Like just like find a friend. And you're like, hey, we just need to make. borrow your kid. Yeah, just need to make like a fake profile. You know? But obviously you'd have to leave and you got to go work with another politician. This is going to be like a long-term like plan that you have to make though because
Starting point is 00:55:46 you're going to have to go on Amazon and get a pregnancy belly. You're going to have to like show up to work and like have this whole situation like, oh, I'm feeling sick, whatever. And it's going to take several months. But eventually you can clock out and they'll believe you have a kid. Yeah, actually fake a pregnancy. Because you get maternity leaving everything. It seems like the only way out.
Starting point is 00:56:06 What's the law? What's the law? What's, is it fraud to fake a pregnancy? Is it fraud? You'll there will definitely be like a Netflix talk about you and you'll come off really psycho, but I don't know if it's illegal to do that. Is it fraud? Is it fraud?
Starting point is 00:56:20 Is it fraud? Are you Googling that? Well, I get it might be if you're like using it to mess with your like corporate and your benefit sort of thing. Yeah, you're trying to get maternity leave. Yeah, I got to think the maternity leave part is fraud. Is maternity leave fraud? This is revelations here on Perthoff.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Would it be fraud to fake a pregnancy to get time off work? So unfortunately, yes. Apparently, this is serious fraud and it's illegal. Okay. It crosses into criminal territory when you collect paid leave, submit for us by medical documents, or fabricate identity details. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:58 So, but let's see how bad the criminal charges are, I guess. Plus the amount of weekends you'll just be using to keep up with your fake identity. You're basically working anyway. So somebody actually did this, which is crazy. A Georgia state official wore a fake baby bump to secure paid leave and then was indicted on multiple felony counts and faced up to 10 to 25 years in prison. What? So forget what I said about the pregnancy belly. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:34 10 to 25. That's so many years in prison. That's insane. Also, like, how bad is it that you need to fake a pregnancy to get time off? And then they just, like, put you in jail for that? Yeah. Wow. But you could just tell them you can plead guilty by insanity.
Starting point is 00:57:55 There's a Reddit post. How easy is maternity-slash-paternity leave fraud? I'm fully remote and I've never seen a lot of my colleagues. coworkers lower halves ever, much less on a day-to-day because 100% of my communication with them is via Zoom. Today I learned that one of my coworkers is eight months pregnant and will be taking maternity leave next month. This got me thinking because I genuinely had zero clue she was pregnant until she told me about 45 minutes ago. How easy would it be for someone to fake pregnancy in this day and age and just take maternity leave? So other people are having these thoughts.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Yeah. Just do it. And then go to, you just have to go to prison for 10 to 25 years. Yeah. So. It's funny the things you stumble upon based on the prompts. That's amazing. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:49 So that's fraud. A lot of fraud. Another really important lesson on a burner phone. All right. Let's take one last final one. This is a big pick for you, Nicole. Oh my gosh. What do I pick?
Starting point is 00:59:00 This is a big pick. You know what's a very big pick? really pissing me off about work lately. I work nine to five finance and we're forced to take an hour lunch. Like, let me leave a four or let me show up at nine and work and eat. Like, no one needs an hour to eat. I don't want to be forced to eat for an hour. Let me out early.
Starting point is 00:59:22 It's so annoying. Really pisses me off. Love you guys. Biggest gickler ever. This comes up a lot. And it's actually one of those things that I don't know the answer to. It's like, first of all, listen, when I used to work, I used to love an hour lunch. But these days, I'm like, yeah, let's cut down on the lunch and then leave early.
Starting point is 00:59:44 Like, I, I 100% support you. I wonder, is it something to do it like later in the day? It's better to have everybody there together. I don't know what the reasoning is. But, you know, any idea? Do we know? I can definitely look it up. I mean, look it up.
Starting point is 01:00:02 I'm curious. Come on, Googling is bringing us so much joy. What am I looking up like labor laws? No, just look up like why can't I just leave early rather than use my hour lunch or something like that, see what comes up. I mean, obviously there's no, you know, I don't know what the situation is. It's probably illegal. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:25 So many state labor laws mandate meal breaks and company operational needs require coverage during normal business hours. Right. So it might be labor laws, depending on where you are and who you work for. I used to get pissed when I had a real job that we were forced to take a lunch and it was like unpaid time. Oh, that's, yeah, that's unacceptable to me. Yeah. I'm not a fan of that.
Starting point is 01:00:53 Because like, okay, we just have like a free hour to be willy-nilly and we don't get paid, but I'm still trapped here. I can't go home. Yes, exactly. exactly so so we support you dialer we support you so let's take the other one which is very much it's very burn a phone hey hannah i have a good one for you so it pisses me off exponentially when people use the phrase out of pocket to say that they're offline so someone will be like i'm out of pocket from 1 to 2 p.m. today. And it's like, I hate that way to say out of pocket.
Starting point is 01:01:36 Like, that's not the way that it's supposed to be used. And I understand it is a way to use it. But that is my biggest word pet peeve right now recently. All right, bye. Thank you. I mean, I'm going to say it's not an acceptable way to use it. But do you want to Google and see if it has evolved? Because I just think somebody's misusing it in her life.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I've never heard that. I've heard of like out of the pocket in terms of like the football term. You know? Yeah. So I guess it does, there is a way this can be defined where it does mean that you're unavailable,
Starting point is 01:02:15 unreachable. But I think this has just been like kind of popularized by the way that we speak when we work in a workplace like that. Because to me, out of pocket means you just said something. crazy. So if you're like, I'm going to be out of pocket from one to two, it's like, what are you doing? You're like popping off between one to two. But apparently, out of pocket to me means it's a financial thing. Right. This is like a generational difference. Wow. So out of pocket to me
Starting point is 01:02:46 it was like I was out of pocket for 5G on that. Yeah, which makes sense. I couldn't I couldn't, I couldn't return it or like, you know, like Delta didn't refund me the fire. I was out of, you know, but am I wrong? No, you're right. That is like another way to say it. Okay, can you Google what are the different meet? What is out of pocket? What are the various things that out of pocket means?
Starting point is 01:03:10 You think I didn't do this already? One, financial, paying with your own money. I hate when my, I hate when the host of the podcast that I work with, like assumes that I haven't already Googled something correctly. I mean, while I'm like on Reddit. When he mansplains Googling to me. So, out of pocket. Three distinct meanings depending on the context.
Starting point is 01:03:38 One, paying for something with your own money. Two, being unreachable or unavailable or three, acting inappropriately or out of line, which is my definition. And the second one was what? Being unreachable or unavailable. Right. Interesting. I've never heard it for that. that.
Starting point is 01:03:54 It does say that it was popularized by American office culture. Oh, okay. So I think it was like forced into the dictionary because of that. Right. Okay. All right. Um, you learn something every day. I can understand like out of the pocket, like in the football term, you know, but
Starting point is 01:04:15 anyway, who knows? Yeah, because then in the pocket is completely different. Yeah. I'm not even a big football guy, but isn't that like a term for like where you're supposed to be in terms of like catching a pass or whatever? Well, in the pocket is also when you're like locked in and killing it, I feel like. Right, right, yes. Right. But is that a pool? Is that the term come from billiards? I'm going to have to get into the etymology.
Starting point is 01:04:46 What is the etymology of these terms? Etymology on Bernerfield. What is the etymology? Please. Okay. So, this is interesting. In the pocket actually comes from mid-20th century jazz and funk music slang. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:08 Where it describes a drummer, rhythm section, locking in to a deeply grooving, perfectly unified beat. Beautiful. Love that. Now let's sit for out-of-pocket. Etymology. Okay. Okay. Where out of pocket comes from. It dates back, the financial meaning, Des's meaning, it dates back to 1679.
Starting point is 01:05:40 Whoa. Meaning to be short of money or to pay using your own personal funds. Yes. It comes from the literal concept of money being kept in a person's pocket. We knew that. We knew that. How'd you ask me to guess? I guess I would have said that, but I hadn't allowed myself to even think about it. for the unavailable meaning. That came around in the mid-20th century
Starting point is 01:06:04 and was first recorded in print in a 1908 short story by the author O'Henry. Shout out O'Henry. Shout out O'Henry. But it grew popular in American Office and Regional Communication during the 1970s. It stems from the idea of someone being missing from their usual pocket or designated space,
Starting point is 01:06:22 making them unreachable like an item that fell out and was lost. That feels like a reach. Interesting. And the final one? The final one, the slang, which means like wild or out of line, out of pocket. Mid-20th century slash modern social media emerging from AVE in the mid-20th century. This meaning evolves significantly on social media to mean acting inappropriately, wildly, or crossing a line. This one came from billiards.
Starting point is 01:06:56 Oh. So that was a really good guess on your part. Even though I was talking about the other one. I just never would have thought that. Right, right. Well, yeah, because, you know, you pocket the, I guess you could say hold it or pocket it. Missing a target or going off track.
Starting point is 01:07:17 All right. Or from musical slang. Good stuff. I just love this shit, man. you know rip to for any of our irish dialers in the early days of the shan munkreve show on news talk he had a weekly segment where he would get this guy on and people would message in like what's the origin of this word and they would go through like six or seven words and he always knew and he was like he was an etymologist and he was like a fucking genius and it was it was always so interesting
Starting point is 01:07:51 and then i remember the day sean said you know like sad news but our friend has passed and it was so sad because I just never I don't even know what the guy looked like but you know it was just such a wonderful thing I really feel because we you know I know we had Dr. Kazarian on and it was a big success
Starting point is 01:08:10 and I always say we should get people on and then I'm just so unorganized but I feel like an etymologist episode I know we can Google I'm aware we can Google but like it's not the same and by the way Nicole this is not under any, this is not in any way, shape, of form.
Starting point is 01:08:27 I'm not speaking out of pocket here to suggest that you're not a great Googler, but you know what I mean? Like, because sometimes etymologists, but an emologist could be like, yeah, people say that's the origin, but it's contested, you know, and they can give a little bit of background. So if anybody knows an etymologist, it's up. Yeah. Well, just let us know. And I do, I, Dr. Kazarian, since she's been on, by the way, not because she was on,
Starting point is 01:08:53 but just she's been busy I've noticed she's doing a lot of stuff like with podcasts and stuff so I don't know if she'll be too busy but I will I promise we will get her back on because that was actually very well received even though it was a bonus episode because the dialers we have to get her back on because we were never even able to do what we were supposed to do because the dialers weren't involved so we will get her back on any other guests that people suggest but by the way I'm not looking for to do any interviews I'm saying and of course I know comics, that's fine. I don't need you to recommend comics that you would like as a guest, but any specialists. I would love to up the specialists, anti, from time to time, not all the time.
Starting point is 01:09:34 You know? Because Nicole, she can get a bit of an attitude when she needs to Google, especially early in the episode. So what I would like to do is have somebody on board. No, I'm kidding, but I would like, don't you think it'd be fun to have a specialist episode? Yeah, totally. but it's hard to find a good one, you know. I'm sure we've got to be connected to somebody. We've got to be like only a degree or two away from an etymologist. Keep an ear out or suggestions for other specialists that you would like to have on.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Anyway, we better go. I've got a flight to New York this evening. So in 45 minutes I'll be driving to the airport. And also, as I'm sure I've mentioned before, I have a bulge disc in my. C5, C6, and it's been killing me all day, and it's particularly struggling with the podcasting position. So I'm looking forward to not having to hold my huge Irish head above my shoulders, which it is what it is. Once you start flying, because I was in Minneapolis on Saturday, so once you start to flying, the old stiff necks kick in. So anyway, we'll see. We'll see.
Starting point is 01:10:54 see you guys next week. Don't forget. 9175.1.2-17-58. All the mystery. Oh, there was a fucking... How the fuck... We're gonna go. We're gonna go, everybody, but I'm just gonna play a mystery WhatsApp because I hate letting down
Starting point is 01:11:10 the WhatsApp people. It's just not acceptable to not have at least one mystery WhatsApp. Let's go. We're gonna finish off with a mystery WhatsApp. Mystery WhatsApp, everybody. I'm not even gonna comment. It's the end of the episode.
Starting point is 01:11:23 We'll see everybody next. week. Mystery, what's up? Oh, wait. I'm listening to, I'm like 30 seconds in to today's religious trauma episode. And the first one that you played was about like name, um, mispronouncing. So this didn't actually happen to me, but I was the one that mispronounce somebody's name so terribly. Um, uh, one of my old jobs, I used to have to call and confirm appointments and one of the names of the appointment was Chauvonne. So I didn't realize that you spelled it like S-I-O-B-H-A-N and I was staring at the name for so long and I was like I have no clue how to say this. I'm just going to spell it out or it was sounded out. So I call in the
Starting point is 01:12:23 mom answers. I'm like, hi, I'm just calling to confirm a C-O-Bon's appointment. It was the most embarrassing thing ever And now I cannot hear the name Chavon Without thinking Ciaubon Anyways, love you guys Love the pod, have a good week Bye Don't feel bad
Starting point is 01:12:44 And here's the good news It wasn't the first time It wasn't the last time So don't feel bad Irish language is spelled very weird Well thank you for leaving us out With the mystery WhatsApp We'll see you guys next week
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