Berner Phone - Your Mom Cares: Calling Out Influencers & Weird Friendships

Episode Date: August 21, 2019

The moms of Jonah Hill and Adam Levine, better known as Sharon Feldstein and Patsy Noah, are the founders of Your Mom Cares. They opened up to Hannah in hell. Sharon explains how she is hungover from her daughter Beanie’s birthday party, Patsy explains how they met when they were 17 and are complete opposites, how mental health wasn’t talked about when they were growing up, how creative minds are different, the crazy careers they’ve had over the years, which charities you can trust, how influencers need to be called out for what they actually influence, and their opinions on french fries. Check out Your Mom Cares here Follow Hannah Berner on Instagram & Twitter: @beingbernz --- This episode is sponsored by · Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/appSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/berninginhell/support Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to Burning in hell. What's up, guys? We're in hell. But today, we're with some moms, some very special, beautiful, amazing moms. I am with Sharon Feldstein. She has three children, including Jonah Hill and Beanie Feldstein, who just had an incredible movie, by the way, book smart. ass. Loved it. We also have Patsy Noah, who has three children, one of them including Adam

Levine. But these two are the founders of your mom cares. What the hell is that? Well, we are celebrity and influencer moms banding together for kids mental health. We're changing

the hashtag from illness to wellness. So hashtag kids mental wellness. I love that because I was just talking to my friend. When I say mental illness, people think like a psych ward or negative or negative but when you say I'm working on my mental health it sounds like going to the gym for my mind exactly and mental health is something everyone has whether you need to go to a psych ward or not you're still focusing on your health of your mind right and the mind is the most important organ in the body because it tells everything what to do but you know it sucks

it's also the one I feel like we don't understand well it's complicated it's not a liver Speaking of livers, how's your liver right now? You know what? Funny you should ask. In general, fantastic. I'm super health food. Mary Lou Henner, vegan, nut. But I had a couple of tequila's last night.

Sharon was celebrating birthday party? Beanie's birthday, 26. Oh, my gosh. I mean, but, you know, they were clean. They had a jalapeno pepper and a little bit of fresh line juice. Oh, I love that. Yeah. So she showed up.

They were vegan, no gluten. She shows up and I'm like, these moms are ready to go. And she goes, I'm hungry. over. Well, because I never drink. So when you don't drink, too, is a lot. Well, you guys live in L.A. and New York City? I do. I live in L.A. and come to New York City a lot. One of my kids has two grandchildren, irresistible, and we're doing a lot of work here, too. Yeah, we work, lady. I know about what you do in the Hamptons, but we haven't work, lady. We have jobs, and I have another job that isn't the charity, so you can be kicking it in the Hamptons with your reality

show, but... You know, I love when people make fun of me, so Sharon, you're ready, you're warming my heart. No problem. I also, I like the fact that you're not just two random celebrity moms that are creating a charity, not that it's bad, but you guys are legitimate friends. We've been friends, Pat's, go ahead.

I'm going to let Patsy talk for a second. As you can tell, Sharon... We have a yin-yang situation going on. We have Sharon, who is boisterous, she's so charming, hysterical, and Patsy is the calm confidence and kind of, I'd say, the glue that keeps it all together.

Negative, negative, and negative. This was my initial reaction. I'm calm. Calm. You got that right. She's calm. And she's cute. So why would you befriend someone with so much energy all the time?

It was forced on both of us to be fair. We met when we were 17. Our boyfriends were best friends. So we met, it was quite a yin and yang situation then. It was Sharon and a plunging all. dress and me and a 17 white pants suit completely inappropriate leisure suit I called a leisure suit well it was matching and yeah we were sort of we went out with our boyfriends and everything was really fun and great and then we were in a hotel room just the two

of us the guys said we're going to go go by have fun and we stared at each other like what are we going to do we play backgammon we're going to make the story fast because sometimes patsy tells it very details it's very detailed and we're on a podcast and we're like 42 minutes Patsy's giving her a death stare right now That's right But this could be a very long story Because it is a fun story We have a picture

I'm done We have a picture Now Patsy's done Now Patsy's over the podcast Yeah that's okay No I'm done with that part of the story It's right I could do her part too If I had to

No but we did nerdy things like live in the same apartment building And raise our kids together Did you marry those boyfriends? We certainly did Yeah I'm still there What is that life Okay, and she's on her second husband. I'm on one.

Number one took a powder. I'm married to number two for 26 years. Were those guys similar, the guys you dated when you were younger? No. No. Not at all. Similar to each other? My husband was similar to Sharon and her husband was similar to me.

Is. Not what. They both are. Well, if people listen to my podcast, they know I'm very outgoing and annoying and I love a shy man. I love a shy man. Are you married to a shy man, Sharon? Well, I am married. But it's not serious.

That's my joke is that it's not serious But he doesn't want me to say that on podcast I'm married but it's not serious Like if I'm in a bar I'm married but it's not serious But I don't really say that kids No I don't Yes I do

So he yeah he's very He's introverted I mean our kids think he's the funniest Of all of us with a one line Occasionally So he has a great sense of humor No No no no

Terrible terrible sense of humor He is funny sometimes And it's a really good one Like very funny Because you don't want to dominate all the time. No, I mean, I honestly, this is my philosophy. You're not going to like it. Well, let me put it this way.

My family might not love it. But I feel like opposites attract. And then when you get older, it's kind of fun to be with someone that likes what you like. Because there's, like, more time to like those things. And for me, like, I have to rev him up a little bit. You know what I mean? Because he doesn't like, you know, he's chill. Well, when you guys were growing up, was mental health talked about?

Never. Never. Why the hell not? Because cancer was not talked about, and that was a dirty word, and crazy was not talked about. But now cancer, AIDS, fine. We're trying to do with mental illness, wellness, what was done for cancer and AIDS. It's an illness. It's something that needs to be addressed.

It's something that we need to help. And not stigmatized. Exactly. Or to be made fun of or to be ostracized for. It's so true. And you guys both have creative children. Do you think kids with creative minds might struggle with mental health more? I know that's a weird question.

The general feeling is that they do. I don't know that that's true. I think creative minds are constantly passionate and I think it's an exciting way to live. I think it also can be a struggle if your mind doesn't shut off ever. My answer to that question is definitely I do not agree with that statement at all. This is just me. I'm not a doctor because I think everybody's, has mental health issues and I'm the most uncreative person I know could be the most mentally

non-well person that I know and I think like what Patsy said passion gives you something to focus on which is amazing but then I'm sure that there's like maybe anxiety is more with passion or depression is more when you don't have a passion see the difference I feel like if you're suffering from a certain thing like you might become a musician to try to let out your emotions or some people might just stay under their covers and not want to leave their bedroom. And just because you're expressing it differently doesn't mean someone's struggling less than others. That's right. And I think creative people follow their passions almost without being able to help it.

It's not something they think, they plan, you know, in any kind of organized way. Right, exactly. So you two have your own careers. We have Sharon. She's a stylist and, like, costume designer. Okay. Let's back it up, lady. This is Wikipedia.

Lady, let's back that and tell Wikipedia to get back to 2019, okay? Because I was a, I've had a lot of careers. And actually, what I really like to tell people is that they can reinvent themselves anytime they want. I have a separate podcast that when it comes to that, we'll do that another time. But I'll go quick with my career because my careers, I changed a lot. I was a costume designer, stylist, trend expert. I created the sparkle cell phones and microphones that people use with all the stones. Oh, yes, that was me.

oh yes my phone ended sex in the city which we'll get to later this podcast because I saw one of the questions so we'll do that later just sit back and relax I'll do your job for you oh I'm ready so then I realized that the next trend was going away from stars telling us what to do and experts should tell us what to do so I was an expert as a stylist and I got myself on TV and then I decided you know what I couldn't find a manager so I have a company called expert management I manage experts and I do unscripted television people like you that go to reality shows but with all due respect I don't know if you're an expert because I have no

idea who you are but let's say I knew who you are and you were an expert I could represent you so that was my last career my present career where I manage experts but I also have I mean we do your mom cares is a lot of work it's so we work like 40 50 hours yeah it's 24-7

I just love entrepreneurial women it gets me so pumped up and then we have Patsy who from Wikipedia I learned that You were an admissions counselor. After a series of other jobs, yes, I ended up being an admissions counselor at a private school. Did you enjoy it? I enjoyed it for a while.

But then once you get your dream job and there's any kind of disappointment, I found some disappointment. I waited for years to be this thing and it was not fulfilling. Why did you want to be an admissions counselor? I just enjoyed talking to families and I love kids and I love working at schools and I had an advisory group of kids and I just love kids. and they bonded with me and we talked a lot about everything under the sun and I loved it but the politics of being in admissions

on any end of that world is very trying. It's interesting because it sounds like your mom cares lets you help children still but now you guys don't have to deal with like random politics and you guys can take control a little. We are the politics.

You are. You're the presidenting. Hello. No, it actually is You bring up a good point. We can, we do exactly what we want. We don't have to, we don't have a, the new trend and charity, by the way, I'm just going because I want to know. Because I'm a trend person.

Yeah. Is you don't need a board of directors. You used to need like, you know, in order to do this, you had to do this and you had to do this. You know, to do this. By the time you did it, the crisis might be over. So we have this mobile mom's mission that we do. We save some of our money like parents do for their kids for college or whatever.

But we get to spend it however we want. So if there's lead in the water of Flint, Michigan, I mean, with a vetted charity. We don't just like go throwing money into the streets, but a vetted charity. So we also give to the migrant kids. So we did, it's about humanity? This is about humanity.

Patsy knows all the right words. So I just look, and then she'll correct me. So we've given to things that are happening, hurricanes. If something's happening right now that needs our attention, we will bring the money there, but we're also doing big things. Like we're creating apps to diagnose anxiety before it becomes depression.

It's mental health, period. It's like a vaccine. You said anxiety before it becomes depression. Can you explain that? We were told, because we're not going to explain it as doctors because we're not, we're not allowed to do that. Well, the people listening want to know, like, how you would explain it. I would explain it that anxiety, we know this for sure from the best pediatric psychiatrist

in the country. Anxiety can, not does, can lead to depression. So we want to stop that cycle. It's like if you, you know, take an AIDS drug at the very beginning, it maybe never becomes a full-blown case of AIDS. If you take an antibiotic before you get severely sick, hopefully, you know, the infection will go away. We want to stop it before it becomes something terrible. We want to identify it so that the right treatment options are available to people who are suffering from anxiety so that we can ward off it getting worse. And I like that.

It's like, you're not crazy if your anxiety turns to depression. That's the human mind. Right. And if people are aware of that, then you'll, you almost feel less alone in that process of how that happens. Right. If you need a sign from the universe to start your own podcast, this is your sign. Burning in hell has been around for three years and I started it with Anchor and I'm still with Anchor. It's free and Anchor by Spotify is the easiest way to make a podcast with everything you need all in one place. You can record and edit your pod right from your phone or computer and when you host on anchor it distributes your podcast to listening platforms like

spotify apple podcast and more everything you need in one place completely free download the anchor app or go to anchor dot fm to get started tell me what podcasts you start and just remember if you feel like it's your purpose to start a podcast you do it i believe in you anchor dot fm so when you guys were growing up did you guys ever deal with your own mental health You know, I saw that question on your list. It's like, honestly, this is my thing. I know because everyone said, oh, Sharon's crazy. And I'm like, thanks.

Like, oh, cool. Like, okay, well, you know, you're boring. So, okay. I'd rather be me? Uh-huh. Honestly, the answer for me is no. And I think I had a very happy childhood. Most of my friends and family had very happy childhoods.

If there was anything going on in the mental health, Rome, I was unaware of it. I was happy. It was the days when you could run out your front door and meet your friends and play. Your parents didn't even know where you were. It was a different time. So I think the stressors of raising kids now have everything to do with why there's anxiety. Yeah, my mom's a middle school principal. And she said she's never seen the kind of drama out of school where they come in this person to this demand of social media. And my mom's having enough trouble controlling them in the school. Of course, that's the worst age. The middle school is the Because they're all discovering their hormones and puberty and the internet.

Now they're freaking jewelling. Who knows what kids are doing now? What does that mean? Is that the pipe? Is that the smoking? Yeah, the pipe. It's don't even, that's a whole other charity we have to start. Yeah.

But speaking of charities, for people who are listening, you're just taught, oh, donate to charity. There's different kinds of charities. And it's kind of suck. Some charities, your money isn't necessarily going where you want to go. I love you. questions. What did you do, like, a little research, young lady? Girl, you think, okay, these women, these women scared the hell out of me. They had an interview call beforehand. And Sharon was like, who the hell are you? And I was like, I don't

know. I forget my name. I didn't say who the hell are you. I was very nice. Don't make my people allowed to be that I'm not nice. I have fans. No, they're both the nicest, but they want to know that this was a legit podcast. Okay, you asked a good question. Yeah. It's not, it's not the fault of, let's say the American Cancer Society has to employ. It's a big, huge company. Yes. And you can't run a big, huge company without, we have, like, one employee full-time,

we have an assistant, and we have a Lex who's over there filming us right now, part-time. And we take no salaries, none of our moms, we pay for our own travel, everything. But in order to run a big charity, a company like the American Cancer, American Heart Association, I kudos to them because they are running a big, huge organization. But for

us, the money goes directly to where you're giving it with, I mean, the percentage that we spend is like under 1%. So not all charities are created equal. Correct. Because I did stuff for Susan G. Komen once. Like, they just had a couple reality TV stars like... Oh, wait, excuse me, are you a reality

TV star? Okay, I wasn't sure. I was on the new reality list. It was my first season, so I was just lucky to be there. But I ate watermelons as fast as I could to join charity. But I got all these DMs from people going. How dare you donate? Because they don't give them, they said, well, I don't know. I'm not saying. Yeah, I didn't know the details. It's been a controversial

group for a long time now. And listen, so has the American Red Cross. It doesn't mean that they're bad. They still show up for emergencies. They go to Puerto Rico. They go, they go everywhere. They're still doing great work. But if you give $100, that $100 isn't necessarily going directly to the recipient. It's being, you know, doled out where it needs to be doled out of there. But it might only be $20 that actually gets sent. What's your name again? Hannah Burner. Okay.

I'd rather you ask than you call me like Stephanie or something. No, I don't want to cut it. Oh, no. When I edit it. I think it's funny. It's hilarious. No, I really. Miss podcast lady.

No, I forgot. No, I forgot what I was going to say. She's still drunk from last night. No, I'm not. And I'm not drunk. I wasn't drunk. I wasn't drunk. I don't tell the kids out there that I'm drunk because I really do not.

not, I'm a health food freak. I really am. I mean, I don't even eat gluten or anything with GMOs. That's right. I mean, my tequila is pure. So let's say I want to donate to charity. I leave this podcast and I'm like, oh my gosh, I want to give money to something that mean something.

How do I research to make sure it's the place that my money will go? Well, you have to go. Oh, this is what I was going to say. But first I'll answer your question. You have to, you go look at the charity and you can see their financial statement. And then you look through their financial statement and see how much they raised and how much it costs. for them to raise that money. But what I was going to say about Patsy and I

and all of our moms, you know, we have our third musketeer is Terea Joseph, she's Alicia Keys' mom, we have Jimmy Kimmel's mom, we have tons and tons of moms. But we have very famous or influential children, and that puts us in a spotlight

that we are, we vet everything and we do not, you know, as crazy as I am, we don't do one thing that is not on the perfect straight and arrow that you could check our books. You can check everything that we do because we don't want

anything to ever influence, you know, be associated negatively in the press about anything. You are living a different life that you might have not necessarily asked for that, like, you do have more eyes on you than that rich mom. I love eyes on me. I could tell. So, Patsy. I do not. So Patsy, she's a little bit lying.

A little bit. She likes coming out and hanging out and going on trips. She drags me. I do not. I just mouth help to me if you need it. Let's have a say for it. So speaking of influence, we had a funny conversation on our call before. Nowadays, there's all these influencers.

Like one day I go on a TV show the next day I wake up with 100,000 followers. And I'm like, do you feel that influencers are not getting involved enough with positive influencing? I don't, that's like a don't get me started, young lady. It's a loaded question. Here's what I think. Because a lot of influences listen to this. I'm going to call out all the influencers and challenge them to donate to a charity of their choice, hashtag your mom cares. No, of their choice of any passion they have.

But if you care about children's mental health, your mom cares is a great organization. Yes. And by the way, honestly, this is how Patsy and I feel. This is the truth. If we save one person, we've done our job. If you want to give to pediatric aids, great. If you want to give to diabetes or Alzheimer's or anything that you want to give to, Lupus, we are down with that.

I'm challenging any influencer listening to this to donate to any charity, any amount, tell their followers to do it. We'd love it to be your mom cares, but we understand if it's not. And we will, and tag us, we will recognize it, we will repost you, and we will thank you. Because you know what? You're young and you're getting all this fame quickly for influencing people. how could you not influence people to do good things? I don't

understand it. Well put. And that's it. There's my call out. And Hannah, I remembered your name. It's my grandmother's name. I love more than life. I can't thank you enough for asking that question because kudos to you, young lady. Thank you. I think it's important if you're going to be influencing, you can influence people to drink skinny fit tea that gives them diarrhea to feel skinnier the next day. Or just black tea with no sugar like me.

Or lean. But I think the social media platform now has become influencers is a relatively new thing and I think that there's no real commitment yet from the influencers no to be philanthropic and I think that that's a we need to change that it's also social media where the influences are or is the number one reason mental health is such is like struggling right now so it's like instead of using this platform to make other people jealous of you right why don't you use it to either say, hey, I woke up this morning and I had anxiety, and it made me think about

other people probably suffer from it, and I want to donate here, or even if it's not donating, just talking about stuff. And you know what, these young moms, these social influence of moms, and I think they're starting to happen, which we're happy about, but we're raising money for their children. We've already raised our children. Yeah. This money for kids' mental health is not for our children.

It's for our grandchildren. Yeah. A lot of these moms feel the pressure. pressure, I think, to look perfect on Instagram, the influencer moms that, you know. What about giving to philanthropy is not looking perfect? Honestly. It's really, it's if you care about your brand, it probably would just help your brand. Exactly.

And I'm just fascinated by the mental health aspect because if influencers start talking about it instead of just pretending everything's perfect, then everyone, it would be desigmatized. Like I'm trying to influence. And I think that's starting to happen. Yeah. I'm seeing a lot of posts that are talking about Monday mood or this is how I'm feeling today. We heard today and we won't say who. Someone was saying we're preparing for the fall of Instagram.

I want to know what these influencers' jobs are going to be and what they're going to do with their lives. When an if, look, I love Instagram. I love it. I am like, I was one of the eight moms you should follow on Instagram of celebrities. Look at you, Sharon. And I was like so happy like a little child. I was so excited. But I'm just saying, if that happens.

happens, what are they going to do? There's a lot of models that won't be models anymore. Yeah, there's a lot of people that won't be anything anymore. And that's why you want to kind of spread, I think, especially as female entrepreneurs who are doing Instagram right now for income, start a podcast, write a book. Right. Like, start doing live events in some way, really expand how you can affect people. Teach the younger kids.

Go to high schools. Also, I just fucking love kids. Sorry for cursing. I love cursing. They are so not jaded yet by the world. so pure and authentic and the fact that I could say something to them that I might have wanted to hear as a child that I didn't hear is something that's so beautiful. Do you guys miss being moms? No, you never stop being a mom. Never. You kidding. And I have 12 and 10 year old

grandchildren. I am like, they think I'm like had those eggs frozen and gave it to someone and I come up on that school yard and they're like, that's my Nana. Oh my God, you must be the on the down low boys. No, every card I get. at his happy 21st birthday, Nana. I think in my parents' generation, my parents were of the mindset that they're 18, they go off to college, we're done.

Yeah. But that's not mine. That's not what happens. Do you feel like you're good friends with your kids? Yes. I'm best friends with my kids, flat out. Flat out. Ask Bany Felstein who her best friend is.

Flat out. I'm best friends, I bother my mom five times a day. If she doesn't answer, I'm like, do you even love me? But I also like that because also nowadays desigmatizing everything, when I didn't know something about sex I would ask my mom and she would laugh and be like this is the safe thing that people should do if I don't know I'm asking you

now I have your number so you can text me whenever okay sounds good but I'll be working one floor above you will be on my own podcast you know there may be your mom cares podcast in the future just throwing that out there just manifesting it but you guys had your own careers your own lives what was it like becoming a mom for the first time because a lot of I We were babies. We didn't have careers in. We had kids. We had kids and then careers.

I also like that you're doing this organization because as kids, our mom and dads probably had a couple too many tequilas, as you call them one night. Nine months later, I pop out. And then I'm like, I didn't ask to be here. And then I have to live my life and find a meaning for this life that I didn't ask for. So I love that the moms are giving back to figure it out. Help us figure it out. What advice would you give to the moms listening on how? they can help their kids. That might be 8, 9, 10, 2, 15, 25. We're struggling.

That's a really hard question. That's a very broad question. Like, have you guys learned anything in this process? Tons. I mean, we could, I can't imagine. We could rattle out statistics that are super depressing and, you know, this is an upbeat podcast so far, so let's not do that. But we've learned a lot, but we're not experts and we're not doctors and we always like disclaim any answer because, you know, that's, I don't think we could give advice on kids' mental health. I think we could give advice on what work for us as mothers. That's a different question. Can I hear some?

Start with Patsy. I'm tired of talking. I know. Patty's not in my eye line. She did that on purpose. I, it was a very strange time at first, you know, because this is a whole new, you're married, and we thought it would take a few years to have a baby, and nine months later we had a baby. The tequila's. It was, you know, it was kind of stressful for me.

I was a little blown away by it. How old were you? 24. I had just turned 24. But on the other end of that now, I'm really glad that I was a young mom because I'm a young grandmother and I have a good relationship with my kids. I'm a younger grandmother. You are a younger grandmother.

My kids are older. My grandchildren are right. I mean, I think that a lot of it is shooting from the hip. You take each day as it is and what your kids are. into is going to really be up to your kids. Everybody is born with a personality and you have to deal with that personality. And I think ultimately

finding out what they truly want is them when they're like in alignment and they're most happy. I have advice. Yeah. I think it's quantity of time, not just quality of time. I don't believe in just quality of time because you're missing the moments if it's just quality. If you're not in carpool, you

didn't hear the conversation. That's number one. I still drive carpool. I drive my grandchildren's carpool. That's also because I'm nosy. And then the other thing is I told my kids, and I never had a favorite. They all thought they were the favorite. That's number one. That's what they always say.

And the other thing is I told my kids they could be anything they want. And I believed they could be. If they said I want to be a rocket scientist, I would have said, okay, you're probably not that suited in my head for that, but try to figure it out. And then if not, like, maybe work at a rocket company or like, do something in a field. like if, well, I mean, I can't really use it. I don't have an exact example. But let's say Adam, it's easier for Adam if I use Adam, because he's my godsend.

If Adam couldn't play the guitar but he wanted to be a musician, maybe he could work at a record company. That would be a good example. Yeah. That's a better example because actors could run a movie studio, right? So if that's what you want to do, then do it, you know. And you might be better at being behind the scenes than in front. Yeah. I don't speak from my children ever.

They're all like me. They all have their opinion. They're very strong. so I would never speak for them but I believed and told them you can do anything you want like I'm right here just try it's powerful

it is it's powerful because at a young age just my dad told me that and look at me and also there are just some kids who are going to do whatever they're passionate about anyway and you have to get on board and that's kind of what happened to me my kids were passionate about certain things the one

child who wasn't as passionate at a young age was my stepdaughter Julia, but she found her passion later on in college and in law school, and she's very passionate about what she does now. It happens in different decades for different kids. There's not like a certain timeline that anyone has to follow. But the thing is, I got to tell you something, there's even pressure on kids now to find a passion. It's the saddest thing. When we were growing up, my passion was, could I have vanilla ice cream at 5 o'clock? Or could I have it at 4 o'clock? Am I going to get sprinkles? Because my sister got sprinkles and I would really like

that. So that's what my passion was. But now it's like, what's your passion? What are you going to do after school? I think that's great. One of my mom's friends hired like a life coach for her freshman in high school. I believe it. And part of me was like you have to let the kid at sometimes like just figure it out and not be on this like steady path because then you'll always feel like you're either right or wrong when life is not about being right or wrong. And how is she going to find her own passions when like you have someone literally telling her what the right things are to do you know what i teach a master class at fashion institute i forgot to say that oh i like that yeah a couple you can't come but a couple of times yeah because you like my fashion already no no i do like

i do you like your fashion but i don't allow guess so um it's the kids in the class that's it my my kids want to come i say no negative so but my class is called just show up because that is my if i could give you one piece of advice anyone listening even if you're like today i was Even if you're tired, you have to show up. You would never know who you're going to meet, what's going to happen in that moment if you stay at home. And I love Netflix. I love all television. I love TV.

Love, I want to preface by saying that. But if you never leave your house, then you're not going to see what's out there. Well, millennials are the generation of, I don't want to go to the party. Millennials are the Netflix and chill. And we've made it like cool to not go out, but I think it's also.

I do love Netflix. I must be a millennial. Yeah. But I do think it's a side of fun. of some anxiety. Like we joke about canceling plans and I think it's Oh, is that true? I didn't know that. I must say I must say that is a trait. I didn't know that.

That is a trait. I've never met a young person who does not make plans, elaborate plans, cancel them. I don't know anyone that does that. An hour later make more plans. Well, because we have our phones now. No, I know, but you have to call. How old do you? I'm 27. Yeah, but

Beanie's 26. I've never seen any of her friends cancel plans. Ever. But back then, if you called someone and hung up the you better be there at four. They're going to think something happened to you. But now you could just like, you're the movies getting kind of funny and you're like, can we not do it tonight?

And you just have to send a text. It's that easy. It's so easy to get a couple texts. And I think that increases anxiety. Like basically at any time, like right now I had a producer call me. And like back then, and I had like four text messages.

And that's the impulse. Politely in my handbag on airplane line. I just thought I would tell you that. You are polite. Yes. I'm asking you guys questions from it, though. so it had to be on. No, I'm just being in the moment doing some eye contact here.

I'm loving your beautiful eyes. No, 60% of eye contact has gone down since the cell phones. That's the kind of stuff. That's like stuff that we learned with our mental health stuff. And if you're not making eye contact with someone, you're either comparing yourself on your phone or in your own head, which we all know too long in your own head, you could start believing things that aren't true.

So you guys were moms together. Was there any time that you needed help or you were there for each other in terms of the process of you guys being mom? Like, did you help each other out at all? Oh, yeah. I mean, my situation was very specific. I, you know, was separating and got a divorce. And Sharon got me through that.

Really? You know, I was nice back in the day. I was catatonic for a while. And my kids practically lived at her house. Wow. Moms do that. Oh, moms do that. They do that now still.

Well, I also feel like it could have been anyone. Like, it could have been anyone that gets a divorce nowadays. So you want to be, it's just like, it's a very bad break. up. But it's amazing that you were there for her and you guys are still here now doing something so powerful together. Yeah. I think we've always been there for each other. That's for sure. In the bad and the good. Some of you may have seen me last summer on a show called Summerhouse drinking my face off and peeing in hot tubs, but I wasn't doing that for your entertainment. I was doing it for research for you for the best drinks of summer. And I found it.

My favorite drink to just chill by the pool, have fun with your friends, not get too drunk, not feel bloated, will always be truly hard seltzer. It's so refreshing, only 100 calories, one gram of sugar, 5% alcohol. It's my favorite. And that's all I'm going to say about that. Yes. So before we play our final game, I can't wait for that fucking game. I want to know how people can get involved in your mom cares. That's such a good question.

You answered that. Honestly, the best way is to go to our website, take a look around and see what attracts you about it and what you might want to get involved in. Donating is always an option. Following us on Instagram. Following us on Instagram. Following what it is that we're

working on our projects are all listed on our website. But also, if you want to start something grassroots in your hometown, do something like a bake sale, a car wash. That's so fun. And just collect, you know, $50, $57 and send it to us. Lemonade. But it's true. And you know what else? You could also go on our website. And if there's

some, if you start a charity in your hometown, we fund those, you can present it to us. And we're going to be. And we will vet it and then maybe give you money. So it can work both ways. We're going to work on a very simple, very simple grant application process, which means that smaller organizations can start to come to us and apply. And if it's in- We give a voice to people that don't have voices. That's part of what we do. Yeah. And if it's so powerful. it's on message for us that that's something we definitely would consider i do think millennials love being entrepreneurs i know i do and you guys do you're young souls because i'm a millennial you are you are a millennium and i don't cancel plans apparently so am i yeah patsy's sleeping watching

netflix i'm out at the clubs eating drinking tequilas um people are going to think i drink a lot i drink like maybe once a month she's very health conscious she only drank for her daughter who she loves No, I didn't drink for her, but he doesn't drink. No dairy, no meat. I haven't had meat in 43 years. I'm a trendsetter. I love the idea that you're like, to start an organization of some kind, you don't have to have a huge board of execs or whatever people do.

No, no, we prefer not to because we want to be able to decide really on the spot what it is that if there's something this afternoon that happens in the country and we decide that this is on message for us. Yeah. We want to give. Emergency. And that's what moms do. They take care of the sickest kid. right and I think if you don't have the finances there's so many other ways of getting

involved and also I think getting involved is so give you the money yeah getting involved sometimes is just is also so great for your mental health like get out of your head for a second and think about helping other people with stuff that you've struggled in the past with be of service gratitude a hundred percent it's it's really I think something young people are are starting to realize is that it is very gratifying to give back it's not been a very popular mindset. And I think that if influencers and celebrities could get more involved in causes, there are organizations that are very philanthropic. The MBA, the hockey association, the NFL, they are great examples. Also, you meet cool people. Like, forget swiping on apps.

Go to a like-minded event of people of similar passions. By the way, we're starting to do more and events, which I, like, they're really fun. I am just all pumped up now. Which I think makes it the perfect time to play our final game that Sharon has been very excited for. Well, I don't know my answers, but I just think it's funny to play a game. It's now time to play. Cue the scary music, The Seven Deadly Sins. Heaven or Hell. So I'm going to ask a question.

You guys can both answer. At the same time? Individually. Patty, go first. Because you're both are different people. We figure that out. What are you greedy about? patsy. You know, I know this

sounds really obnoxious, but I couldn't come up with an answer for that if I tried. I'm not very greedy. Maybe the remote control. No, I'm kidding. Yes. Okay. I don't really let my husband use the remote control because he doesn't know how it works. I must do that.

I like that you didn't teach him because then you always have the power. You're smart. I have taught him. It doesn't compute. It's very smart. He's like, click the button. Remember we had to get up and change the channel? So Sharon, what are you greedy about? I'm actually, surprisingly enough, not a greedy person either.

But if I had to pick something, I'm greedy about time with my family. I love that. And my kids and my grandchildren, like all the people I love, I love to be with them all the time. And I have terrible fomo of not being with them, especially if they're doing super fun stuff, which sometimes they are. I'm like, I'm going to miss a trip to Paris, but it's okay because I have to. But I was invited. Our next one, Patsy, who are you envious of? This was tough.

and it's going to surprise you but I'm so envious of Annette Benning. She married the most imperfect sexy man and she's a fabulous actress and I love her look and I wish I was her. Wait, who's her husband? Oh my God, you're so young.

You are so young. Oh, that's the best. Warren Beatty, now she should say who's Warren Beatty? No! He was like a sex symbol back in our day. Yeah. Patsy, you're wild. I'm not. That's good.

Could you ever see yourself being in front of the camera, like an actress? Absolutely not. No. I'm not all that comfortable right now. But you know what? You're being a really good sport, to be honest. She's doing great. I am being a good sport.

You know, there's a difference between playing it and owning it. Yes. Okay. Sharon? I'm not. Who are you on VSA? And don't give me a no. No, because there's a no.

I honestly have never wanted to be anybody else but me. I swear to God, I'm not just saying, I'm not. Not great, but, you know, the devil you know. Yep. I'm the devil you know. What was the most insecure time you've ever had? Oh, you know what? I am envious of something, not a person.

Yeah, that comes to. I have very bad ADD and dyslexia. I'm envious of people that can read. I'm not making a joke. That's not a joke. I don't, I can't read well. My attention is, it goes and goes and goes. Yeah.

So I'm envious of, you know, that Patsy can sit down and do a task. But I'm not envious of Patsy. I want to make that perfectly clear. on this podcast. Oh, God, no. God forbid. Oh, never. But I think it's important that you understand where you're lacking and you find people to surround you who

help you with those things. Totally. And together, you're stronger. Now, the next question is, Patsy, what do you gluttonous about? So gluttony, I think of, like, really overindulgent. Oh, I know. I have my answer. Don't worry. Go ahead. French fries. Oh, yes. What do you dip them in?

Usually a garlic aoli, which Sharon is allergic to. I'm not into tomato. to catch up. See, I like the mayonnaise. Yeah. Like, I like that. That's good. Then they put the vinegar

in Europe or whatever. She knows her French fries. Do you like them soft or crunchy? But I'm middle. She likes them very well done, Sharon. Yes. I like, I like hers. I'll share hers.

So you give her all the ends. Yeah, and I like. We share our French fries. Do you like waffle fries? I do not. I do not. There's a lot of girls listening who like don't order fries because I think they're bad for them.

What would you say to them? Have everything in moderation. I'll say something. Fries are, potatoes are real food. Maybe you should stop having the chemicals you put in your food or the meat or the all-protein diet with no fruit and vegetables. If you eat something real from the ground, I mean, frying is not the best thing. It depends what you fry them in. Blah, blah, blah.

I don't want to go into my nutrition speech. Don't just look at French fries and put a big X on it. Moderation and at least it's from the ground. Where you get them, who makes them, blah, blah, blah. What are you goodness about Sharon? Attention. I love attention. It's funny because growing up sometimes people make fun of you like you like attention.

But it also has created some of the greatest movie stars and the greatest speakers. Well, you know what it is about attention is that it's not what you think. You think I want to be like in front of everyone and like take everything away from everybody else? I want to be involved. So if someone's talking to me and I'm getting attention, they're listening and I'm listening. And it's a relationship. Yes. It's not just what people think of the word attention.

Do you get energy? Although I like that too. But I feed off of people. Do you get energy from being around people? Yeah. It's funny because I'm very... Patsy is just exhausting, as you guys can tell from this podcast. I get energy from being alone, but if I'm alone too long, like I drive myself crazy,

but I love being around people too. I just need to remove myself. I'm a lever, so I like to be alone too, but I like the attention. I'm a Leo. We get along. What are you, Patsy? Aquarius. We all get along.

My husband and Liam. Oh, so he's like an interesting Leo because he's not so loud and attention seeking. No, no. Is he on the line of a cancer? He's the 22nd of August. Now he's on the line of Virgo. Yeah, we're on the same page. We love horoscopes on this podcast.

When was the last time, this is going to be good. When was the last time, Patsy, you experienced extreme rap. So anger. Oh, because I can tell you, you look like a hot head. No, I can't remember the last time, to be fair, but I'm one of those people who's completely even until I blow. I'm actually the same way. Like, it takes so much for me to get angry,

but once I do, we're never going to talk again. Right. Well, I'm not particularly, I don't hold grudges, but I get very worked up occasionally. I'm Italian, so I hold grudges. How about you, Sharon? I don't hold grudges either, by the way. I forgive people always, almost too much.

I had a client that got ang that had rage against me recently okay he's young and he's does not understand he he's way too big for his britches let's put it like that but you know took me five minutes to go like that yeah to teach you to put him in his place and walk but that was he got mad at me I'm always mad at my mother and my sister always like always I'm angry I'm like always man at them. Are you best friends with your mom like Beanie is with you? No, I was best friends with my dad. I'm definitely, my mother and my sister are best friends.

I'm like the odd man out. No, not. Beanie and I actually have not replicated my relationship with my mother. It's interesting. It's like you don't have to have the same family style. We're definitely not best friends. 100%. Are you best friends with your mother?

No, I was a daddy's girl. Yeah, same. Actually, almost all my friends are daddy's girls. That's an interesting concept now. I mean, to think about it. It is healthy to have a good relationship with your dad these days and mom, but dads really affect how you deal with men in your life of all kinds. Absolutely.

When was the last time you were a sloth? Because I know you guys are running around all the frigging time. Well, she'll tell you, but I'm frequently a sloth. That's the whole Netflix, read a book, stay in my room for two hours by myself kind of thing. What am I currently watching? I'm currently watching Bosch on. in the Amazon Prime. Also watching, what am I watching?

I have to wait now because my husband is usually very busy and out of the house a lot and now he's home a lot so I have to wait on certain things to watch with him. I don't have to wait to watch with anyone. Good for you. And I'm reading Anna Quinlan's book about being a... It's called Manaville. It's about being a grandmother.

Oh, I love that. That's a cute name. I never heard that. How about you shared? I mentioned I don't know. I never thought. If I could I'd read it. Never, ever, ever. No, that's the truth. Never, ever, ever. So if someone's like, let's sit down and relax for an hour, you get jittering? I can relax, but I beat. So that's like, but I'm not a sloth. I looked up the definition because I wanted to make sure I understood exactly what you were asking me, and I'm not a sloth, but I, how, that's a question of how do I relax.

I do my beating. It's therapeutic for you. And I treadmill, I love the treadmill. I love to walk. I love working out too. That's actually a really good way to get up off the couch. What kind of workouts do you guys do? love working out. I love to walk.

Walking. I have a really mean trainer named Victor who I don't like at all if he's listening. It's the truth. We don't even really talk. I have a lovely trainer named Brandon. And if he's listening, he's very encouraging. No, Victor's not encouraging at all. And I take hip-hop. Oh, yes. Dance Line, L.A. Love it. Recommended to everyone. I take so many... I have to take advanced hip-hop. I take salsa. I take Zumba. Oh, yes. Will to dance is my teacher.

name is will are you on adderall will no i don't take i take no medicine zero because i want your energy no can i just say one thing for real this is the truth because i people are listening and i want them to hear this i'm 60 going to be 64 years old like in a month yeah i take zero no blood pressure no anxiety nothing i take no medicine i take vitamins and that's it do you think your diet's been a big part of that 100% one million percent so you're vegan and gluten-free no i kind of like i lied a a little bit with a vegan, to be honest. I'm not allowed. I eat eggs.

I eat hamburgers every day. No, never. Eggs and fish. Occasionally. I'm mostly vegan. And nowadays, if you're a New York or LA, it's very easy to do that. None of that. Did you find me start doing that?

You got more energy? No, I think I, honestly, this is really a sad story. My mother drugged me when I was younger. I had very bad allergies. And back in the day, they gave pills like Benadryl, but they were called chloratrimatone. but my mother didn't know and I realized when I was an adult because I have a decently high IQ

I was sedated for 25 years in my life so people thought I was lazy me lazy and once I stopped taking allergy pills this is who I am wow I mean that's like an interesting thing that's really interesting yeah I didn't realize I was 30 that that was what was wrong with me but that's all you knew so you couldn't compare it

wow I did not know this look at us learning new things every day when was the last this is a tough one. When was the last time you let your pride get in the way of something? This is the hardest one. I do that all the time. Really?

It takes a lot of self-reflecting to know that. Yeah. I mean, I think that I can't remember the last time, and I don't do it daily, but I'm interpreting that to mean when do you step back and not say something or do something because you're too proud. Because your ego. Yeah. Well, I guess maybe I'm.

misunderstanding a little bit, but it's part of my reserve, I guess, is that there's a huge sense of this would not be appropriate for me to say, and I think that's probably based in pride. Yeah. I don't want to say the wrong thing. Yes. A lot of times. So I will choose to say nothing before saying the wrong thing, which is not always wise. I see. I'm careful. So do you ever after something regret not speaking your mind? Yes. Sure. I I think everybody goes through that, except for Sharon. Well, no, I have a different answer. Like, I don't really, this question is like not exactly the way.

But you can kind of interpret it how you want to. Yeah, I'm very resilient, and I try to get always the help that I need for myself. But I think the only time I probably would ever get in the way is I don't ask anybody for help. Yeah, that's a great one. Ever. Like, I mean, very. But you ask Patsy. No, I like to figure things out myself, to be honest.

I like to, I acquire, I have a team of people that help me, meaning like, I don't want to go into it because of, well, I have a medium, a psychic, I have a therapist, I have a healer, I have three healers, I believe in all that stuff along with, you know, I'm not crazy, but I mean, again, we're not supposed to use the word crazy, but I, I don't like other people that I don't find as experts to help me. Like, let's say friends. Yeah. I prefer. And you learn your best when you figure it out yourself. Well, yeah, I do have friends that do help me. I mean, I'll run things by them. I'm not like that. But, I mean, I have a lot of, I'm sometimes too proud to ask for help.

Is that what you're asking? 100%. Final question. When was the last time you guys lusted over someone? My God. I know. Oh, I get crushes on actors. Who's the last one?

Big time. Oh, God. The most recent one, I would have to say that, I don't know Bradley Cooper No I don't lust after him because he reminds me a little bit of my younger son So he doesn't do it for me

But I would say I love that I'm into older guys I'm into younger she's into younger Who are you into right now Sharon Well he's not younger but I have I have lusted after people But I can't I'm not going to say their names on this podcast Because I just will not incriminate myself

as I said my IQ's not low and I'm not going to answer that however I lust after people that are funny and kind those are my I love funny and I love kind love I got to tell you I don't lust after these people but I really love visually being able to say this because she says I always look I act like an idiot because he's like my neighbor and he's my friend but I love him Mr. Big Chris love love love love but Chris of you listening I don't really love you like I just I think you're... If you try to have sex with me, I'd say no. No, I think you're...

No, because I love the wife. I think you're visually pleasing kind of to look at. I like tall and bigish. But I also like Howie Mandel is super sweet and funny. I love him as a person. And his head's cute. And then I have, like, a lot of people I love that I'm not going to name. And I like Baryshnikov, if you were doing sex in the city.

So that would be my love. I like both of them. I lust after Britschian. So to wrap this up, what's one final piece of advice you guys would give to our listeners on how to cope with their hell. That's a tough one, but I guess that's your whole point. I'm more of an introvert than Sharon is, and I would cope with my own hell by writing. I love that.

I, you know, put everything down. I would say gratitude for what you have, not what you don't have, and there's always someone that has something worse, and if you can find a passion and do something that could help people, then you're not in hell anymore. You've left hell. You guys are the best. We have Sharon Feldstein. we have Patsy Noah,

your mom cares.org. Where can people follow and donate? Go to your momcares.org or follow us on Instagram. Don't you face. We don't like Facebook that one. And not Facebook. They're over Facebook. Or call me.

3.0. 3.0. I love you guys. I feel so inspired. You guys are the coolest moms. I've met in a while. Talk to you guys in hell. Later.

Bye, Hannah. Bye. Oh, ha, ha, ha.