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Episode Date: August 21, 2025Two best friends, a cause worth fighting for, and the knife in the back no one expected. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com and foll...ow us on Instagram at @betrayalpod To access our newsletter and additional content and to connect with the Betrayal community, join our Substack at betrayal.substack.com. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Liz went from being interested in true crime to living true crime.
My husband said, your dad's been killed.
This is Hands Tide, a true crime podcast exploring the murder of Jim Milgar.
I was just completely in shock.
Liz's father murdered, and her mother found locked in a closet, her hands and feet bound.
I didn't feel real at all.
more than a decade on,
she's still searching for answers.
We're still fighting.
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December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport.
The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage,
kids gripping their new Christmas toys.
Then everything changed.
There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal, just a chaotic, chaotic scene.
In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism.
Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System
on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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It's a way of life.
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Hi, everyone. Before we get into this episode, I want to let you know that the first part
discusses details of cancer symptoms and treatment. Please listen with care.
She's ruined so many lives
She's just broken so many hearts
It's just left me wondering
Did she ever
Have any love for any of us
And that hurts like hell
I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is Betrayal, a show about the people we trust the most,
and the deceptions that change everything.
A tale of Peter Rabbit, that is, and I can see you've drawn a picture of the Peter Rabbit.
That is Edlin.
That's Angela McVicker.
She's a grandmother in small town, Scotland.
The day we interviewed her,
Angela was babysitting her four-year-old granddaughter.
Listen, Nana's going to ask if you will be quiet for a little while longer.
Okay.
Be very, very good and you'll make me very, very happy.
Okay?
Right, on you go.
Angela has lived her whole life in the Scottish countryside.
What makes Scotland, I think, are the people?
If a stranger walks into a bar, they don't leave that bar.
and tell everybody knows who they are and why they're there.
She came from a close-knit family of all girls.
When she was growing up in the 70s,
I did actually want to be a midwife,
but then I fell pregnant and had my first daughter, Joanna, when I was 17,
so that kind of put a hold on anything.
And at that point, I was thrown into growing up very quickly.
Joanna was named for Angela's father John
And just like her mom, she would be one of four girls
Which was hard going being a young mum and having four children
There was rarely a quiet moment
We always had a busy house with four girls
There were always bringing friends home
Out of all of her girls
Joanna was the most driven
You never had to tell her to study
she would come home and go straight to her room, do her homework.
And she was a talented Highland dancer,
which is a traditional Gaelic folk dance.
On weekends, Joanna competed in dance contests across the country.
But something changed when Joanna was 16.
Joanna started to get really tired,
and I put it down to her studying so hard for her exams.
and then she started getting little lumps and bruises.
She would come and say,
Mom, look at this.
And then one time in particular,
she couldn't get her shoe on and she said,
look at my foot.
And on the bridge of her foot, there was a lump and it looked like an egg.
It was really quite a significant lump.
Angela wasn't the type to call the doctor over every scrape or sniffle.
But this time, she was genuinely alarmed.
When the first doctor dismissed it as a bug bite,
she found another doctor, and then another.
I knew in the back of my mind it wasn't right.
There was something going on.
One day, Joanna came home from school
with a large, dark purple bruise.
It covered her whole lower leg.
And it hadn't been there in the morning when she left.
And at that point,
leukemia hit me between the eyes
I knew that bruising was a symptom
so we went to the hospital the following day
and they said well we need to do a bone marrow aspirate
but they told me that it was just to confirm what they already knew
and I just kept having to leave her room
I kept having to make up excuses
because I could feel myself getting panicked and upset
and I didn't want her to feel that or see it.
It was a day that changed their lives forever.
At 16, Joanna was diagnosed with cancer.
Just by looking through a microscope
that could tell that she had chronic myeloid leukemia.
Today, there are a variety of...
of treatments for chronic myeloid leukemia.
But 30 years ago, there were very limited options.
Joanna's doctors were scrambling to find answers.
The doctors would say, I don't know how she's functioning.
I don't know how she can walk.
A nurse had seen Angela pacing the hallways all day.
She pulled her aside and gave her some stern advice.
Angela was going to have to be her daughter's advocate.
She wasn't giving me tea and sympathy.
She was giving me sound advice
and she was being a bit of a badass with me
and just telling me without saying the words,
pull yourself together, you're going to have to do this.
So Angela tried to channel her fear into action.
She was willing to go anywhere in the world,
do anything necessary to get Joanna treatment.
Next, she found a special.
He then told us that she had to have a bone marrow transplant to survive.
In order to have a successful bone marrow transplant,
Joanna would need a perfect match.
It's rare.
But they found a possible match on the National Registry.
It wasn't perfect, but it was close.
And it was their only shot.
But the procedure is dangerous.
So what they do is they kill off all your body.
bone marrow. So you had to go into isolation. You're in a room where everybody has to be scrubbed up
and it's very limited to how many people are in the room because an infection could kill you
because you don't have any white cells to fight infection. And then the cells from a donor
just looks like a bag of blood and it's hung up on a stand and you receive it through.
intravenous and the stem cells that go through your veins find their way to your bone marrow
and they nest in your bone marrow and start to multiply and give you a new immune system
should your body accept it but joanna's didn't it it wasn't a close enough match
And her body attacked the new cells.
When that happened, she was left with no immune system and no donor.
Before the transplant, Joanna didn't fully grasp how serious her diagnosis was.
There were a few times we thought we're going to lose her during the transplant.
She was just so ill.
After the transplant failed, Joanna's doctors were blunt.
So at that point, they said if she's going to survive beyond five years, we need to find a perfect match.
That's when Angela turned to the Anthony Nolan Register, one of the first bone marrow registries in the world.
It had been founded by another mother, all so desperate to save her child.
And the charity happened to be based in the UK.
So Angela scheduled a meeting with a woman there.
And she said, well, this weekend we have got a fundraising event going on in Glasgow.
Would you and Joanna like to go along?
And I said yes.
Because we have to do something.
We can't sit back and just expect everybody else to build this register for us.
So they packed their bags for Glasgow.
Of course, Joanna said she had nothing to wear, which was a lot of the loaning.
That weekend, they hoped to meet people who could help Joanna.
And that's where I met Lindsay McCallum.
Lindsay worked for the Anthony Nolan Trust, and she would be Angela and Joanna's ambassador,
guiding them through the process of growing the registry and trying to find Joanna's match.
When we arrived at the hotel, she greeted us so.
warmly and kindly
and she was very
caring and inviting
that night at the
fundraiser
there was an auction
and there was people
up speaking and
while Lindsay was speaking
on the stage
Joanna actually got up
off her chair and
walked up onto the stage
and took the mic
and told people
that
she needed to find a bone marrow match or she was going to die.
I saw her blossom on that stage.
She didn't cry.
She just told people that she wanted to live
and thanked them for being there and for helping her.
In that moment, something shifted.
Joanna was no longer just a patient.
She wanted to be an adamant.
advocate. And an idea was born. The Anthony Nolan Trust would partner with Joanna to launch
a media campaign. They would use her story to raise awareness and get new people to donate
bone marrow. Every new donor could potentially be Joanna's match. They got the campaign off
the ground with Lindsay's help and the public immediately took notice. When we started Joanna's
campaign, the media just ate it up. They just loved her. She loved the camera. The camera loved
her. Yeah, she made friends with lots of different Scottish celebrities and they just loved
her zest for life. Joanna's story struck a chord. Her personality, her humour, her sheer
will to live, it was irresistible. Plus, the campaign gave Joanna a larger purpose.
It's so ridiculous, but she had a blast. She just wanted to live. That was a message.
I just want to live.
Even though the transplant hadn't been successful, Joanna was well enough to take her exams
and get into college. There, she discovered her love of journalism.
She used to say, when I'm better, I'm going to start a newspaper, and it's going to be called good news only.
It's going to just be a newspaper full of good news that people will want to read and not be drawn into doom and gloom.
Wouldn't that be a wonderful world?
As the campaign continued to grow, so did Angela's involvement.
I started to work for the Anthony Nolan Trust.
I was a donor recruitment manager.
I then started running clinics
where people could come along
and put their name down to be on the register.
And everybody was coming to join the register,
coming in their thousands.
It was intense work,
and Angela says it couldn't have been accomplished
without Lindsay's help.
The woman they'd met at the fundraiser
was becoming an integral part of their lives.
Lindsay went above and beyond on Joanna's campaign
and she meant business
She was ex-military
had been in the Navy
and so she had that kind of great organisational skills
and she was charming
she attracted people
she was a good fundraiser
because we were running a campaign together
the relationship became pretty intense
Lindsay and Angela became fast friends.
You know, the relationship grew organically.
She would phone me during our work hours and then that would expand it.
And we wouldn't just talk.
We just kicked off.
We just kicked off really well and laughed at the same things.
We talked about the same things.
We both had families that were very similar, very close.
loving families.
They had a lot in common, and Lindsay made her feel less alone.
Lindsay didn't have a child with cancer or a personal stake in growing the donor registry,
but she was passionate about the work and the people she was helping.
She just had an aura, and we both had a common goal in increasing the register and helping
people, and she cared about Joanna.
As the year went on, Lindsay became a part of their family.
Her families quickly became intertwined.
I absolutely adored her mother and our sisters.
Lindsay and Angela started calling each other first thing in the morning every morning.
We were both early birds.
Either she would text me or I would text her saying, are you awake yet?
and I don't know what we even spoke about
you know when you have a relationship
and you can be in the phone for an hour
and then you have to phone back in an hour's time
oh I forgot to tell you
I could speak to her five times a day
that was the kind of relationship we had
you didn't get one without the other
it was like cheese and pickle
the two women founded
an annual ball together as a fundraiser for the registry.
By that point, Lindsay felt like a sister.
It's hard to describe just how intense a friendship it was.
I feel it was always because we had that goal to save Joanna's life.
Joanna herself was determined to live, and she was open to trying anything.
She spoke to doctors about complementary therapies.
should you have reflexologies, should you have massage?
And 30 years ago, doctor scoffed and rolled her eyes and said,
yeah, you could fry that if you like.
But Joanna was ahead of her time.
She believed in Western medicine,
and she also believed in the power of rest, food, and joy.
While they kept waiting for the perfect match,
Joanna decided the best treatment would be living her life to the fullest.
She was gutsy.
She would do things like skydive.
She went scuba diving.
She'd been living with cancer for almost 10 years.
When she was 24, she planned a backpack around the world.
Her doctors cleared her to go so long as she had blood work done every few weeks.
And Joanna took the chance.
She went all over.
She was in Thailand, all these kind of places, Fiji.
I mean, bear in mind, Joanna was tiny.
tiny, little thin thing.
Our backpack was almost as big as her.
It was huge.
And while she was in Australia,
I got a phone call to say she had been admitted.
She started feeling short of breath,
and it turned out she had a collapsed lung.
Her lungs are deteriorating.
eventually they managed to get her on a flight and get her back to Scotland
and then we discovered that she actually needed a heart and long transplant
everyone knew what it meant this was the beginning of the end
and she never ever got that heart and long transplant
Joanna died at home with her mom and sisters by her side.
She was 27.
It was just all so unfair.
Everything's unfair though, isn't it?
You know, with a disease, it's never fair.
But she just so desperately wanted to live.
Angela immediately threw herself
into planning a celebration of life for Joanna
I remember saying to somebody
this is the last thing I get to do for my child
The service would be joyful and vibrant
just like Joanna
We asked everybody
not to wear black
to wear very colourful clothing
from a tiny little girl
Joanna loved rainbows
as a toddler she would scream when she saw a rainbow
she was fascinated
and when she was very ill and she knew she was dying
she said to me
when we can no longer be together
I will send you a sign and we can meet
in the middle of rainbow
As they planned the service, Lindsay was there to help, just like always.
Lindsay actually asked if she could read her eulogy.
I was like, oh my goodness, could you do that?
And she was like, I really, yeah, I could, I want to.
And I was like, oh, that's beautiful.
Even in this dark time, Angela felt like she was surrounded.
surrounded by love, that she was supported by good and caring people.
I thought Lindsay McCallum was one of these people.
And she wasn't.
Liz went from being interested in true crime to living true crime.
My husband comes back outside, and he's shaking, and he just looks like he's seen a ghost,
and he's just in shock.
And he said, your dad's been killed.
This is Hands Tide, a true crime podcast exploring the murder of Jim Milgar.
Liz's mom had just been found shut in a closet.
Her hands and feet tied up, shouting for help.
I was just completely in shock.
Her dad had been stabbed to death.
It didn't feel real at all.
For more than a decade, Liz has been trying to figure out what happened.
There's a lot of guilt, I think, pushing me.
And I just, I want answers.
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December 29th,
1975, LaGuardia Airport.
The holiday rush.
Parents hauling luggage, kids gripping their new Christmas toys.
Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed.
There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal.
Apparently, the explosion actually impelled.
metal, glad.
The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene.
In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay.
Terrorism.
Law and Order Criminal Justice System is back.
In Season 2, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sight.
That's harder to predict and even harder to stop.
Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System.
system on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Cheryl McCollum, host of the podcast Zone 7.
Zone 7 ain't a place.
It's a way of life.
I've worked hundreds of cold cases you've heard of and thousands you haven't.
We started this podcast to teach the importance of teamwork and solving these crazy grounds.
come join us in learning from detectives, prosecutors, authors,
canine handlers, forensic experts, and most importantly, victims' family members.
Listen to Zone 7 with Cheryl McCollum on the IHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast.
Hey, it's Anna, host of the Girlfriend's Jailhouse Lawyer.
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After Joanna passed away, Angela leaned on her family and friends, especially her best friend Lindsay.
At this point, they'd been best friends for nearly a decade. Their daily morning calls became a lifeline for
Angela. After Joanna passed, you know, Lindsay would be the first person I would speak to in
the morning and she would message me and say a yop or I would, if I was awake, I would
make a y' up and we would chat and she would just laugh with me about the funny things
Joanna would get up to and the funny things that she would say
and it lifted my spirits and
it was just she was always there. She was so supportive.
Never heard of cry right enough. Never cried. But I just thought that
she was just composed.
Their friendship went on like this for another seven years.
During this time, Angela was reflecting a lot on Joanna
and how she was always looking for holistic treatments.
Ways to make herself feel better and find joy.
She thought about how Joanna used to say,
There should be a place that people go
and they can just sample all these things
and find out what you can do to bring more joy,
more peace, more relaxation, less stressed,
One day, when Lindsay and Angela were on the phone, they came up with an idea together, a charity that would provide exactly that.
Seven years after Joanna passed away, Lindsay and I decided, in her memory, to launch Rainbow Valley, to help other people.
Rainbow Valley. A nod to Joanna's vibrancy and her love of rainbows.
They would offer a two-day residential program for people with cancer.
The course would include coaching on mindfulness, diet, and emotional well-being.
Remo Valley is not a life-saving charity.
Remo Valley is a life-changing charity.
And it doesn't matter how long you have to live.
It's what can you do to take back control of,
a diagnosis of cancer and live a more joyous life.
Luckily, Lindsay knew how to start a charity and she was eager to help.
She had 17, 18 years experience as a fundraiser for a big organisation.
So she was obviously well respected within the sector.
And I felt she had the expertise.
Joanna gave us the vision. Joanna gave us our mission.
Why was the storyteller?
And Lindsay was the expertise behind pulling it together.
They applied for charitable status and found experts to lead their courses.
And then in a twist of fate, Lindsay was laid off from her job at the Anthony Nolan Trust.
So she became Rainbow Valley's first official employee.
It made sense that Lindsay, you know, after being made redundant,
worked for Rainbow Valley and we pulled a board together, a board of trustees
and we took advice from Lindsay.
We took her lead because she was the one with 20 years' experience.
I was so grateful that we were able to do something like this together in Joanna's memory.
I thought it was all meant to be.
Under Lindsay's leadership, the charity really came together.
In 2012, Rainbow Valley officially began running courses.
She was the head of the charity.
She was involved in the day-to-day running of everything.
I trusted her implicitly.
implicitly.
A few years into managing the charity together,
the friends faced their first real conflict.
Angela had started to question some of Lindsay's choices.
I felt she was spending money on something that wasn't necessary.
And it was a bit of a waste of resources.
And I spoke to Lindsay about this.
And I remember saying to her, this is extremely difficult for me because you're my best friend and I adore you.
But this is a business conversation and I don't feel this is the way we should be running.
And Lindsay didn't take it well.
It was the first time I had ever seen, I don't want to over-exaggerate,
and say aggression, but it was like she was angry.
I saw it as not a fallout, but we disagreed on something, which we hadn't done before.
But it was more than a disagreement.
It was a turning point.
After that conversation, Lindsay became cold, and she came to Angela with some feedback of her own.
She started telling me that people didn't like.
like me and that I was causing upset on the course. I was upsetting the staff and I was
upsetting the attendees and I was creating a negative atmosphere. And of course, I loved her
and I didn't want to upset her. I didn't want to upset anybody on the course. But she had me
convinced that I was creating this negative atmosphere.
Angela was taken aback, but she trusted Lindsay's judgment.
She didn't want to be a problem or get in the way of their mission.
And she told me that I shouldn't come to the courses anymore.
I wasn't being useful.
So I kind of step back from that.
She wanted to do what was best for the charity, but Angela was hurt.
And to make matters worse, their friendship was changing.
During that time, our relationship really deteriorated.
And I was very confused, you know, because Lindsay would turn quite nasty at times.
And it just wasn't like her.
You know, I would try to speak to her and say,
say, what's wrong?
And she would say nothing, nothing.
So she had me feeling I was imagining it.
Lindsay stopped calling in the mornings.
I would then be phoning on.
She would ignore my calls.
And then when I would say to her, I've phoned you.
She would say, well, I never get a missed call from you that.
Then one night, Angela opened her door to find all three of her daughters standing in front of her.
The girls all came to my house.
one evening
and said
you really need to get help
you're not happy
Angela knew Lindsay had something to do with this
and her daughters confirmed it
Lindsay had approached them
and raised her concerns
she was saying to them
things like
your mum really needs help
I know she's had a lot of trauma
in her life but
she really needs help
and that I was going off my knot.
And I was like, absolutely not.
Now Lindsay was interfering in her relationship with her daughters.
It started to feel like it was orchestrated.
But to what end?
Angela couldn't figure it out.
And on top of that,
I felt she was pushing me out,
telling me that I was interfering
in the day-to-day running of the children.
charity and that she ran the charity.
But one day, Angela stopped by a Rainbow Valley course that Lindsay was running.
She stood in the back and kept to herself.
Lindsay was giving the introduction to the group.
Typically, they shared Joanna's story at the start of every course.
But this time, Lindsay skipped over it.
I remember going to a day course.
and normally when we have our intro slides
we talk about what Rainbow Valley is
the inspiration and we have a picture of Joanna up
and we talk about this is where it started
this was a dream of Joanna's
but this time
she didn't mention Joanna in the course
I said to her after it
was there a reason
why we stopped talking about
Joanna. And she said, because I don't really think it's relevant.
Angela was at a loss for words. She didn't recognize Lindsay or where she was taking Rainbow Valley.
And then, in 2022, January, she said to me, there's a problem.
Lindsay said, COVID had taken a toll on the chair.
And she said, we've managed to bob along because we got some grants to run the online courses.
But now we're through all that and it's not viable.
We don't have enough money.
The charity's going to close.
She announced this at a board meeting and they all kind of looked at the figures and we're like, we're in trouble here.
It was bleak.
Lindsay explained that the best option was to wind down the charity at the end of the year.
I said, wait a wee moment.
We cannot make this decision and walk out of the room saying that's it we're folding.
Give us three weeks. Let's reconvene in three weeks.
And if we all go away and speak to everybody and anybody and see if we can find a company,
trust fund, somebody that will save us, somebody that will give us a big donation.
Angela started working the phones.
Within a week, someone found a donor willing to help get Rainbow Valley back on track.
I was so relieved and so excited.
I met Lindsay before the board meeting and I thought she would have been belated.
But she was like, oh, that's great.
Instead of celebrating, Lindsay announced that she would be stepping down from the charity for good.
She said, I'm leaving Rainbow Valley.
I don't want to do fundraising anymore.
I'm good to resign.
On her last day, the staff took her out to lunge and bought her flowers.
She and Angela said a cordial goodbye.
Angela felt like it was a new chapter for the charity.
The only thing left to do was close the accounts Lindsay used.
Years ago, she set up a separate bank account for their annual gala.
Angela knew about the account, but she wasn't involved in managing it.
I had mentioned this other account that was for the ball,
which Lindsay had advised that we set up as a friend's account.
I knew that she had done this when she was with the Anthony Nolan Trust previously.
So I just thought, well, that's how it's done.
The bank account Lindsay set up was called The Friends of Rainbow Valley.
And the treasurer said, oh, that account is it closed?
And I was like, well, I don't know.
And she said, well, it needs closed or the name changed.
So Angela went to the bank and got hard.
copies of the account statements to take back to the office and reconcile.
Angela's adult daughter, Kendall, was working for Rainbow Valley at the time,
helping close out the books for the end of the year.
I took it back to the office, put it down in the table, and I said to Kendall, let's go through this.
And Kendall continued looking through it.
And she said, Mom, come back and look at this.
Why's all this getting paid out to Lindsay?
Why? Why is all these payments going out to Lindsay?
Angela went to look, and she saw dozens of transfers,
small transfers, a few hundred dollars each.
But the closer they looked, they realized it quickly totaled a huge sum of money,
and it was all made out to one person.
Lindsay McCallum.
Liz went from being interested in true crime to living true crime.
My husband comes back outside and he's shaking and he just looks like he's seen a ghost and he's just in shock.
And he said, your dad's been killed.
This is Hands Tide, a true crime podcast exploring the murder of Jim Milgar.
Liz's mom had just been found shut in a closet.
Her hands and feet tied up, shouting for help.
I was just completely in shock.
Her dad had been stabbed to death.
I didn't feel real at all.
For more than a decade, Liz has been trying to figure out what happened.
There's a lot of guilt, I think, pushing me.
And I just, I want answers.
Listen to Hands Tide on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
December 29th, 1975, LaGuardia Airport.
The holiday rush, parents hauling luggage,
kids gripping their new Christmas toys.
Then, at 6.33 p.m., everything changed.
There's been a bombing at the TWA terminal.
Apparently, the explosion actually impelled metal glass.
The injured were being loaded into ambulances, just a chaotic, chaotic scene.
In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, and it was here to stay.
Terrorism.
Law and order, criminal justice system is back.
In season two, we're turning our focus to a threat that hides in plain sense.
that's harder to predict and even harder to stop.
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I'm Cheryl McCollum, host of the podcast Zone 7.
Zone 7 ain't a place.
It's a way of life.
I've worked hundreds of cold cases you've heard of, and thousands you haven't.
We started this podcast to teach the importance of teamwork and solving these crazy crimes.
Come join us in learning from detectives, prosecutors, authors, canine handlers, forensic experts, and most importantly, victims' family members.
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Hey, it's Anna, host of the Girlfriend's Jailhouse Lawyer.
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As Angela and her daughter, Kendall, were going through the end-of-year finances for Rainbow
Valley, they found something alarming.
Dozens of payments to Lindsay from a bank account that only she used.
And she said, why's all this getting paid out to Lindsay?
And I said, it'll be expenses.
And she said, no, look at the dates.
Why would she have expenses?
March, April, May, June.
It's every month.
And sometimes it's twice a day.
I was really confused.
And Kendall just looked at me.
and I was like, no, she's been horrible to me.
But she's not a thief.
I know that her family are very wealthy.
She's very comfortable.
And she's not a thief.
No, not a chance.
It's true that Lindsay's husband came from a wealthy family
and she'd been collecting a salary from Rainbow Valley.
She didn't need money.
Angela felt like there had to be another explanation.
So she reached out to Lindsay to clear it up.
I had sent in a message saying
I'm confused
why all these payments are going out to you
and are the expenses
and the amounts don't add up
she says it was expenses
I was just paying things and drips and drabs
and I wanted to believe that
and I came back into the office
and I said to Kendall
it's fine, it's just expenses
and Kendall said
bullshit
bullshit
she says
open your eyes and look at it properly
she needed answers
so she called Lindsay back
and
she was just coming up with
you know
lots of different excuses
and then she said
well I should have told you this
but a good few years ago
Rainbow Valley was in
financial trouble
and I put a lump sum in to dig us out a hole
and I should have told you about it
and I said how much did you put in
and she said oh I can't remember
but that was me trying to claw the money back
and I said no I says that's not transparent
you cannot do that
bring in all your statements
bring in all your bank accounts
and you and I will sit at this table
and we will go through everything
and we'll make everything transparent
so that every penny is accounted for
and she said
I can't
so Angela ended the call
she needed time to think
and at that point
you know
I'm disgusted
we packed up and we drove home
and the whole way home, my head was just spinning.
And I said to my daughter, just let's keep this low key just now
because I need to work out what my next steps are.
Before she could wrap her head around this,
Lindsay called again, this time with a new tactic.
She phoned and she said, please Angela, don't take this any further.
and she said, look, I'll give you 20,000 pounds, just go to the bank and close it.
And I said, how long has this been going on?
And she said, oh, no, no, no, it was just that year, it was just that one year.
That was it. That was it.
You know, it was okay, it's okay.
There's nothing else.
Angela didn't believe her.
As far as I was concerned, she was trying to bribe me.
This wasn't sloppy bookkeeping.
It was theft.
So then I phoned my daughter and I said,
we're going to the police.
I had to go to the police.
They wanted to gather all the evidence they could,
so they searched every page of their financial records.
Starting with the year the charity was founded.
And my two daughters went through it, highlighting everything,
and kind of trying to get a tally.
I could hardly chew my own fingernails.
I was in such a state.
The bank statements revealed, Lindsay had been stealing money from Rainbow Valley for years.
She had taken it bit by bit, 300 here, 200 there.
And slowly, those little numbers started adding up.
In the end, they discovered Lindsay stole 86,000 pounds.
That's $116,000 U.S. dollars.
The reason nobody had noticed was because Lindsay,
was soliciting donations, straight to the Friends of Rainbow Valley account.
And she never reported those donations to the organization.
So, of course, the donors thought their money was going to the charity.
In reality, it was going to Lindsay's slush fund.
Nobody else would know that thousand pounds ever existed.
Because she would be the one that would be writing a letter of thanks.
So she was so deceitful.
And these are people, this is money from people that she would know.
Lindsay had robbed their donors.
She'd robbed cancer patients and their families.
She'd even tried to close Rainbow Valley forever.
It was like a jigsaw all coming together.
It was making sense why she was treating me the way she was,
why she had to get rid of me,
why she wanted to leave Rainbow Valley,
why she was gaslighting me.
She had hoped that the charity would fold
and all the bank accounts would be closed
and it would be all gone
and she would have got away with it.
Angela realized her best friend of 20 years
wasn't the person she thought she was.
When it all came to light,
I was bereft.
The person
I thought she was, for me, had died.
She no longer existed.
And that was extremely difficult and intense.
Angela walked into the PlayStation with hundreds of papers in hand.
And I have to say the detective was so good because I was a nerve.
I was just a wreck when he would come in.
You know, I was just a blubbering wreck.
and he was just very calm and kind
and explained everything as he was going along.
And he warned me, he said,
this will take about two years to get to court.
And I was like, no way, how can that be?
He was right.
It took the police a year to investigate the case.
A week after Angela confronted her,
Lindsay paid 25,000 pounds into the Rainbow Valley account
in an attempt to cover up what she did.
done. She didn't know that Angela had already gone to the police.
So she thought she had got away with it. You know, time was passing and she was
living her best life. Their son was getting married. They went away to Cyprus for this
big laughish wedding, as if there was nothing wrong. For Angela, the year of the investigation
was an emotional and unsettling time.
Sometimes, she had to remind herself that this was really happening.
I would get into a panic sometimes and think,
oh my God, have we got this wrong?
And I would have to go back into the office and take out all the evidence and look at it
to remind me and say, no, it really happened.
It really has happened.
On October 30th, 2023, it got very real for Angela and for Lindsay.
I remember the day she was arrested.
I'll never forget it as long as I live.
I remember it because I was driving home from my mother's
and the detective phoned me and asked me to pull in.
And he said, I've brought her in for questioning and I've charged her.
And he said he okay.
And I said, yeah, but I was shaking.
She thought she'd feel a sense of justice.
But really, she just felt heartbreak.
Bear in mind, I still loved her.
Love is not like a light switch.
You don't ever switch it off.
I love the bones of.
over. She was a fabulous friend. She was there for me in some of my darkest, darkest hours.
And then I was confused. She stood and read a eulogy at Joanna's funeral. How could you do that?
How could you do that?
But Angela's heartbreak turned to rage when the police uncovered new information. It turned out, Lindsay's fraud didn't start
with Rainbow Valley.
She had also stolen from the Anthony Nolan Trust,
the place where Angela and Lindsay first met.
And the police charged her with that fraud too.
I think that was the point where I felt angry at then
because I thought, you're a serial thief.
And it's just left me wondering,
Did she ever have any love for any of us?
She worked for the Anthony Nolan Trust when I met her
and Joanna needed a bone marrow transplant
and a question, did she see Joanna could raise a lot of money
where we'd just a meal ticket for her?
And that hurts like hell.
not because she did that to me,
but because she maybe did that with Joanna.
It's an unanswerable question,
but they'd been friends for decades.
Angela knew Lindsay,
and what really motivated her?
Her husband's family are extremely wealthy and elderly.
So he is in for a big, big, big inheritance.
Personally, I just don't.
I think it was coming quick enough to her.
And her vanity and greed took over.
On the day of Lindsay's sentencing hearing,
the court opened and she had to walk past us.
And she stuck her head in the air,
stuck her nose in the air and looked in the opposite direction.
You know, she was very close.
I had to walk right past me.
And I recognized her fully.
I felt I didn't know her.
Lindsay ended up pleading guilty to two fraud charges.
You knew that you get a third off your sentence.
So she got four years, reduced to three years for pleading guilty.
Lindsay was sentenced to three years in prison in order to repay both charities.
She did make that repayment.
But she only served a quarter of her sentence.
But justice looks different.
for Angela. She wanted honesty and remorse, but that never came. I'll never, ever, ever
get over it. I'll never understand it. I would love to sit in a room with her and just say,
please be honest. Tell me why and tell me what was going through your head. I would love to
have a conversation with her, not for me to call her names or to call her out on anything, but just to try
and unjumble my brain.
I miss the person I thought she was.
I really do.
Even though Lindsay's deception devastated Angela,
she isn't willing to let it change her values.
I refuse to live my life not trusting people.
With what I've been through with Joanna,
I know there are more good people in the world than there are bad.
and that's what I hang on to.
I've got seven beautiful grandchildren.
None of them met Joanna.
But they all know her and they talk about it.
When they see rainbows,
if there's a reflection, comes into the house and it's bouncing off,
they'll say, oh, Auntie Joe's here.
Angela lost her best friend, but she didn't
lose Rainbow Valley. And her decision to bring Lindsay's crime to light, in some ways, has been a
positive. Today, Rainbow Valley has more interest and support than ever, and Angela dreams
of building a permanent center for the charity. Joanna's legacy has become part of Angela's legacy
too. I want this to have longevity and be meaningful for people.
Way after I've gone, I wanted to keep growing and flourishing and being there to help people through, you know, a very difficult period of their life.
We end all of our weekly episodes with the same question.
Why do you want to share your story?
I'm telling this story mainly because you asked.
But Rainbow Valley was Joanna's dream.
Lindsay tried to turn it into a nightmare
and I wanted the world to know what she had done
and who she really was
but I also want people to realise
that they can survive the worst times of their life
and Joanna taught me to stand tall
because that's what she did
if she could do it I've got to
You know, when you have a rainbow, it's guarantee the sun will come out, eventually.
On the next episode of Betrayal Weekly.
Never, ever did I see that coming.
Ever.
I truly thought I was going in to help someone else.
And then I'm being questioned.
What do you mean?
I'm his wife.
This isn't a crime.
We weren't a crime.
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Liz went from being interested in true crime to living true crime.
My husband said, your dad's been killed.
This is Hands Tide, a true crime podcast exploring the murder of Jim Milgar.
I was just completely in shock.
Liz's father murdered, and her mother found locked in a closet, her hands and feet bound.
I didn't feel real at all.
More than a decade on, she's still searching for.
for answers. We're still fighting.
Listen to Hands Tide
on the IHeart Radio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your
podcasts.
December 29th,
1975, LaGuardia Airport.
The holiday rush,
parents hauling luggage, kids
gripping their new Christmas toys.
Then everything changed.
There's been a bombing
at the TWA terminal.
It's a chaotic, chaotic scene.
In its wake, a new kind of enemy emerged, terrorism.
Listen to the new season of Law and Order Criminal Justice System
on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Cheryl McCollum, host of the podcast Zone 7.
Zone 7 ain't a place.
It's a way of life.
Now, this ain't just any old podcast, honey.
We're going to be talking to family members of victims.
detectives, prosecutors, and some nationally recognized experts that I have called on over the years
to help me work these difficult cases.
I've worked hundreds of cold cases you've heard of, and thousands you haven't.
We started this podcast to teach the importance of teamwork and solving these crazy crimes.
Come join us in learning from detectives, prosecutors, authors, canine handlers,
Forensic experts, and most importantly, victims' family members.
Come be a part of my Zone 7 while building yours.
Listen to Zone 7 with Cheryl McCollum on the IHeart Radio app or wherever you get your podcast.
Hey, it's Anna, host of the Girlfriend's Jailhouse Lawyer.
You can listen to this brand new season now, plus all episodes of The Girlfriend's Season 1, Season 2, and The Girlfriend's Spotlight.
Plus, if you have an IHeart True Crime Plus subscription, you'll get episodes completely ad-free, and one week earlier than everyone else.
And because the Girl Friends' jailhouse lawyer has been selected as one of Apple's summer listens, we're offering you a free 30-day trial.
It's a limited offer, so make sure you grab it before it's too late.
Once you're all signed up, you'll get access to some of IHeart's other chart-topping true crime shows, like betrayal, the godmother, burden of guilt, American homicide, and loads more.
Head to Apple Podcasts, search for IHeart True Crime Plus, and subscribe today.
This is an IHeart podcast.