Betrayal - Credibility | EP 6 | Saskia's Story

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

During their divorce trial, Mike’s legal team tries every trick in the book to make the court doubt Saskia’s story.   Content Warning for tech-enabled sexual abuse, nonconsensual intimate image distribution, mental health struggles, chronic illness, rape, and litigation trauma. Find Deborah Tuerkheimer's book Credible: Why We Doubt Accusers and Protect Abusers here.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at [e-mail]. Follow us on Instagram @betrayalpod and @glasspodcasts. Follow our newsletter and join the Betrayal community at betrayal.substack.com.  For resources on sexual violence, visit rainn.org/betrayal. You can also get free, confidential, 24/7 support through RAINN’s National Sexual Assault Hotline. Text HOPE to 64673 or call 1-800-656-HOPE. Every state has a domestic violence coalition, and many counties also have resources available. If you’re looking for help, go onto your county’s website to see what resources are available locally, or search the web for your state’s domestic violence coalition. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Somebody tell me that. A shocking public murder. This is one of the most dramatic events that really ever happened in New York City politics. I scream. Get down. Get down. Those are shots. A tragedy that's now forgotten.

And a mystery. That may or may not have been political. that may have been about sex. Listen to Roershack, murder at City Hall, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Mike Leavengood pled guilty to just one count of second-degree rape.

He took a plea deal that meant he would only serve 18 months in prison. By the time of his sentencing hearing, the one you heard last episode, the judge's hands were tied. But she had watched those chatterbate videos, and she was sure of what she saw. It was clear to me that Ms. Inwood was comatose, not asleep,

but comatose, unconscious, absolutely. Any technicalities in the law didn't matter. The videos spoke for themselves. To judge Jill Cummins, this was rape. You were a predator to Ms. Inwood, and I completely understand it. The damage done to her is probably irreparable. Do you understand that by pleading guilty this morning,

you are waving or giving up that presumption of innocence? Yes, I do. Do you still want to plead guilty this moment? I do, Your Honor. Okay, and are you pleading guilty today, sir, because you are in fact guilty? Yes, your honor. Of the one count. You'd think that would have been the end of it.

But for Saskia, things were about to get much worse. worse. Mike was just getting started. I'm Andrea Gunning, and this is Betrayal Season 5. Episode 6. Credibility. Mike's guilty plea marked the end of his criminal proceedings, but his sentencing hearing wouldn't be his last time in court. It wouldn't be Saskia's either. For a year, the criminal matter took center stage. But the whole time, there was another case playing out. Saskia and Mike's divorce. We're going to rewind a bit to before Mike's plea deal, before he was even charged with a crime.

It was November 1st, 2018, just four days after Saskia discovered the videos of her being sexually assaulted and went to the police. On that day, Saskia was back at the courthouse, finalizing her protective order. But before she could leave the building... I got served the divorce papers. At first, having those papers in hand was a relief.

She wanted a divorce as quickly as possible. But as Saskia sat in the courthouse lobby, reading the documents Mike sent, she realized this wasn't just any divorce filing. He was actually saying that I was complicit in all this and I knew about chatterbaden. It's pages and pages of allegations that him and I were a team camming together. Just four days after Saska realized what Mike was doing to her, four days after Mike left the house, he filed for divorce on the grounds of cruelty.

Saskia's cruelty towards him. Mike said that Saski's allegations, that he raped her, secretly videotaped her, and posted nude images of her without her knowledge, were all false. Saskia was making it all up. The divorce complaint reads, The parties would spend evening time posting and watching other couples doing the same.

This was a regular activity that the parties engaged in openly. These acts were all consensual. To get this divorce complaint just floored me. I knew that this was going to be really ugly. These divorce proceedings were completely different than the criminal case Mike was about to face. that case was the state of Maryland versus Mike Levingood. It was the state's job

to prove Mike's guilt. This divorce case was Mike Levingood versus Saskia in Wood. It really felt like I was the one on trial. Mike could have gone for a no-fault divorce. Instead, he was determined to take Saskia down.

And this path had a lot to offer him. His criminal trial hadn't taken place yet. So, the divorce was a bargaining chip. Soskia thinks that Mike was using the divorce case to get her to back down and make his criminal troubles disappear. I think that he assumed that I would accept some kind of deal for alimony in exchange for not testifying. It would be easy to throw some cash my way and this would all go away. Soskia could have used that money. She was dipping into her 401k just to pay her divorce attorney.

But that kind of deal, she'd never accept. If the condition is that I don't testify, there's no way. I don't care, I'll be destitute. We're going to follow through with this. The criminal proceedings went ahead, with Saskia as an active participant in the case. But even after Mike pled guilty,

even after the criminal matter was closed, he charged ahead with the divorce on the grounds of cruel. Sosquia wanted a divorce too. But like I said earlier, this was no typical divorce. Mike was saying Saskia was a liar, and there was a lot at stake. If a judge believed him, Soskia could owe Mike, her rapist, tens of thousands of dollars. She could even be charged with false reporting or sued for defamation. In this case, there were lengthy depositions, requests for documents, And then in January of 2021, the divorce actually went to trial.

This is extremely rare. Only about 5% of divorce cases make it to trial. It was the middle of COVID, so much of the trial took place over Zoom. Saskia sat at her kitchen table, staring at Mike through her screen. He was sitting there in an orange jumpsuit after pleading guilty to rape. At this point, Mike had been. been convicted. But in spite of that, at this divorce trial, Mike would claim he was innocent. That's why he was so determined to see this case through. You see, Mike couldn't win his freedom.

Through his plea, he'd waived much of his right to an appeal. But convincing this new judge that Saskia was lying could help him clear his name. If he won the divorce, he could have an official document that proved Saskia made the whole thing. up. A document he could take to employers, friends, and family to say, this is what really happened. The divorce judge saw the truth. On the surface, the divorce trial was all about money, as most divorces are. Who'd get the house, the cars? But really, the trial rested on who the judge believed. Mike or Saskia? Mike looked very arrogant and cocky and had no emotion or feeling. I think he thought that it would be just a wash.

When Mike and his attorney opened their case, their strategy was clear, turned the spotlight off Mike and onto Saskia. Their goal was to undermine Saskia's credibility, but what does that really mean? Well, they would have to prove she wasn't believable. They'd introduce patterns of behavior, aspects of her character that would show

she wasn't a reliable narrator. How would they do this? By saying she'd lost her mind. She was very depressed. She was unable to get out for work. I'm depressed. I can't take it. I can't work.

Work is stressing me out. The kids are stretching me out. Life is stuck me out. This is the courtroom audio from the divorce trial. That's Mike's real voice you just heard. And calling out Saskia's anxiety and depression wasn't the only way he tried. tried to undermine her credibility.

He also talked a lot about her use of drugs and alcohol. She drank the significant amount. There was drug use on her part more than mine. It very quickly snowballed into seven, eight, nine drinks. She also received Adderall from a friend. When she starts drinking, she doesn't stop. All of this was to introduce doubt about Saskia. Saskia's lawyer objected to a lot of

of this testimony, arguing that Mike's side was trying to enter character evidence unfairly. But the judge allowed Mike to continue. I felt like goes on the Twilight Zone. The fact that the judges were even listening to these things was blowing my mind. If you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, we've got you covered on the podcast, flagrant and funny. You look at the top four number one seeds. What do you think UCLA is going to do?

break down that for me, my friend. Obviously, Yukon is the overwhelming favorite in this tournament, but I'll be honest, I think people are kind of sleeping on Texas. Experts are suggesting that UCLA is the number one challenger to Yukon and that right after that would be Texas. S&C is so deep and so thinking just about everything. It really is annoying. So it's UCLA, Texas, South Carolina, LSU.

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And what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids? The true story is strange. danger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the secret world of Roll Dahl on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. When Saskia and Mike's divorce trial began, he was zooming in from jail. And his legal strategy was to discredit Saskia. She was very depressed. There was drug used on her part more than mine.

When she starts drinking, she doesn't stop. Saskia sat through hours and hours of this testimony, listening to Mike drag out every time. she drank too much and every time she couldn't get out of bed. It wasn't that these moments hadn't occurred. It was that Mike was using them to say, Saskia was responsible for everything that happened to her. He was telling the story of the worst period of her life. But in this story, it was all her fault.

She was the one causing chaos. These things were so dehumanizing and so dismissive of what I had been through in my pain. I have to admit, it's hard from me to listen to Mike make this argument without feeling angry. Mike knew her family's mental health history and how Saskia was determined to remain stable to not walk the same path as her dad. Saskia thought Mike was on her team. And yet, Mike had been exploiting her mental illness, her use of alcohol and drugs for years. Saskia's friend Heather put it best. It was to his advantage to keep her in this drunken, drugged up, bad mental health state

because the more vulnerable she became, the easier it became for him to take advantage of her. But as Mike testified and his attorney spoke, his culpability faded into the background. He zeroed in on her behaviors, her imperfections, to show, that she shouldn't be trusted, and even that she was to blame. I want you to hear Mike's account of October 27, 2018, the night of the Halloween party, the night Saskia saw what was on Mike's computer screen. The audio isn't perfect, so listen closely.

Here's his story of that night. We've been at the party, came home, we're both stuck, and ended up looking at Chatterbate's website. When they got home, they went on to Chatterbate, the Camming website. But just as they were logging on, she got up and wanted it off. So got it off, went to bed, and that was it for the evening.

The next morning, he was very, very educated, wanted to, look at the website, which we did, and then became very focused on my use of pornography, meaning looking at the website without her, it then became very emotional and started saying all kinds of things, and that's at the point where she stood there in front of the dresser, and she looked at her and she said, you know, I now know what you've been doing. and it was just such a shock and out of nowhere. It just completely forwarded. That moment is when I realized that with the mental illness that was going on here.

In Mike's memory, he and Saskia were at a party. They were both drunk, looked at a website. The next day, Saskia went crazy on him, out of the blue. There could only be one explanation for all of this. Saskia was mentally ill. In court, this strategy is often effective. It plays on misconceptions we all have about what it means to be a rape victim. If you've watched any crime show or any courtroom drama,

you're probably familiar with the character of the perfect victim. As sure as I live and breathe, William Harris is the man who raped me in that alley. Think of law and order SVU. There's the perpetrator, the bad guy. And then there's an innocent victim. She's written to be brilliant, beautiful, and beyond reproach. I tried to get away, but I couldn't. He just left me there.

Storytellers love this archetype. The protagonist is clear, and audiences love it too. We know exactly who to root for. There's no room for doubt. The problem is that most victims don't behave the way this imaginary perfect victim behaves. That's Deborah Turkheimer, a professor at Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law. I am a former prosecutor and I handled cases involving special victims. Debra wrote a book called Credible, Why We Doubt Accusers and Protect Abusers.

She's an expert on sexual violence. She says the perfect victim character doesn't just live on screen. She's the benchmark, the standard that all rape victims are judged against. In the courts, in circles of friends, everywhere. The perfect victim standard includes misconceptions about how victims behave and how they ought to behave before, during, and after the abuse. Before, there ought to be no drinking, no drug use. And Saskia, as we know, was on a lot of substances when she was raped.

During the abuse, the perfect victim fights. She fights back. She fights hard. But Saskia was knocked out. And then afterwards, the perfect victim, she's able to recall with precision, every single detail of what happened. Which again, Saska couldn't.

In every way, Saska failed to rise to the perfect victim standard. The reality is, most victims do. It's unfair to impose a set of rules that, for the most part, can be followed and aren't followed. And yet, the rules remain, and they serve abusers like Mike, because when victims aren't perfect victims, we can write them off. And we can turn them into other characters. The regretful woman, so someone who had consensual sex and then decided it was a mistake, and so is now, quote unquote, crying rape. The gold digger, someone who is making this up because she, She wants money.

And then there's the hysterical woman. Someone who just really doesn't know what's going on and doesn't have a firm grasp of reality. It's one of the oldest and most effective ways to discredit a victim. To make the judge question their sanity and doubt what happened to them. Here's Alice Paray, Mike's attorney from the divorce trial. What did you see that makes you believe that she was struggling? She was very depressed She was unable to get out for work

Many, many times He was struggleable to take care of the kids Ms. Inuit says I'm feeling like shit How often would she tell you Something like that? So many times I could not even count And were there any particular reasons Why she felt like shit?

Because of I'm anxious, I'm depressed I can't take it. I can't work. Work is stressing me out. The kids are stressing me out. Life is stuck me out. By Mike's account, Saskia wasn't composed, or stable, or credible. She was a woman in the midst of a breakdown. Her word, couldn't and shouldn't be trusted. She had to have lost touch with reality, because, according to Mike, he and Saskia were camming together, having sex on camera all the time. How many times have the two of you canned on Chattabate?

Yeah, two to three dozen times. And how many times had you observed other people camming on Chattabate? Three, four dozen times. The sex life became, was extremely adventurous with not a lot of limits. There was no boundary. That was something that I did not experience previously in any way. But Mike wasn't asking the judge to take his word on all this. His divorce attorney, Alice Paray, said she could prove it.

She had a plan. I would like to really admit all of the pictures and all of the videos because I think how much of them is relevant to my client's case. And when Alice said all, she wasn't just talking about the videos from the criminal trial. The one's detective rule recovered from 2017. in 2018. There are hundreds of photographs, hundreds of videos, and they take place over the course of years and years, six or seven or more years.

There was more evidence, much more. And Alice claimed it would show Saskia consented to everything, every sexual act, every video. What's happened is the defendant has under oath in pleadings and requested responses to admissions just denied everything. I never posted a picture, never participated in videos. And you say this never happened and there is a picture of it in living color or video of it in moving motion. It's relevant. And according to Alice, it would show that Saskia was not to be believed.

I'm Lori Siegel, a longtime tech journalist. And consider my new podcast, mostly human, your bridge to the future. Anyone can now be an entrepreneur. Anyone can build an app. And it's very empowering. Each week, I'll speak to the people building that future. And we're going to break down what all of this innovation actually means for you. What I come to realize is that when people think that they're dating these AI companion,

they're actually dating the companies that create this. We're experiencing one of the greatest tech accelerations in human history. And let's be honest. That can be messy. There's no playbook for what to do when an AI model hallucinates a story about you. But it's my belief that we should all benefit from this moment. Mostly Human will show you how. My goal is to give you the playbook, so you can benefit.

The reason I say agency is because if we can give power back to people, then I think that's probably the best thing we can do for your mental health. Listen to Mostly Human on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. If you're trying to keep up with everything happening on and off the court, we've got you covered on the podcast, flagrant and funny. You look at the top four number one seeds. What do you think UCLA is going to do?

Break down that for me, my friend. Obviously, Yukon is the overwhelming favorite in this tournament. But I'll be honest, I think people are kind of sleeping on Texas. Experts are suggesting that UCLA is the number one challenger to Yukon and that right after that would be Texas. S&C is so deep and so thick and just about everything. It really is annoying. So it's UCLA, Texas, South Carolina, LSU.

Only ones that could possibly upset Yukon. On Flagrant and Funny, we're giving our unfiltered takes on the biggest moments of the conversations everyone's having. So whether your bracket is busted or you just want the latest on the tournament, we got you. Listen to Flakron and Funny with Carrie Champion and Jamel Hill on the IHeart Radio app,

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I wanted people to be able to see what. their tax dollars were being used for. Sunlight's the greatest disinfected. They would uncover a disturbing pattern. Two more men who'd been through the same thing. Greg, the lesbian, Michael Marantini. My mind was blown. I'm Stephanie Young.

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Okay, I don't think that's true I'm telling you The guy was a spy Did you know Dahl got cozy with the Roosevelt's Played poker with Harry Truman And had a long affair with a congresswoman And then he took his talents to Hollywood Where he worked alongside Walt Disney

And Alfred Hitchcock Before writing a hit James Bond film How did this secret agent wind up as the most successful children's author ever and what darkness from his covert past seeped into the stories we read as kids. The true story is stranger than anything he ever wrote. Listen to the secret world of Roll Dahl on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In the criminal trial, there were about 30 videos recovered from Chatterby.

These videos were the key to prosecuting and convicting Mike. But in the divorce trial, Mike said he never raped Saskia or took images of her without her consent. She agreed to all of it. And to back that up, he said that he and Saskia often made pornography together. Which was done over the course of seven years to the tune of over 200 photographs and videos. 200 photographs and videos. His divorce attorney, Alice Perrae, seemed confident. The evidence will convince the court that she was a willing participant in these matters. While working on this episode, we reached out to Alice Paray. She declined to comment. In these additional images, it wasn't just that Saskia's eyes were open, as we've talked about in previous episodes.

Alice claimed that in lots of instances, Saskia was awake, and she was posing and performing for the camera. If Saskia was saying she'd never consented, she was lying. Or she was delusional. From the early days of reporting this season, I knew that there were some pictures Mike took of Saskia consensually. Saskia was open about that with us, and with detectives too. The kids would be out of the house, and they'd be drinking, having a good time. Then Mike would pull out his phone. You heard about one of these incidents in episode one. I remember one time he took a picture of me and showed me how good my butt looked or something like that.

And I explicitly asked him, what are you doing with that picture? And he's like, well, of course I'm going to erase it. I would never show it to anybody. But she can only remember this happening a handful of times. Mike said he had 200 photographs and videos. And most of these images? I don't remember taking them. And I never knew of their existence.

All of this brings up another painful truth about rape cases. No matter the corrupt. no matter the amount of prosecutors, family members, and experts standing behind a victim, there's an initial default to doubt that is sort of culturally ingrained in us. That's law professor Deborah Turkheimer again. She says doubt is built into the crime of rape. It's really difficult in the criminal setting to get past that very high standard of proof beyond a reasonable doubt. And that's true of every criminal.

But it's especially true of rape. Historically, there were special instructions that were given to juries that said, you should be even more cautious about convicting in this case because accusers are so untrustworthy. Now those formal instructions aren't given, but we still have a default to doubt when someone comes forward. That's true. even in a case like this where there's so much evidence. Even sometimes when it's on video, right?

There are questions of interpretation. No judge or jury can turn back the clock to be in the room at the time a rape happened. And no one can get into the minds or bodies of the people involved. And that's also a challenge for us as reporters. That's my producer, Caitlin Golden. We can't go back in time.

And so in understanding this story, the only thing we can do is rely on the evidence that is available to us. When it comes to images like these, attorneys will always make arguments of what was really going on. But our team didn't understand the degree to which these were just arguments until we saw the images for ourselves. After months of reporting, we finally got access to the case files from the divorce and the criminal case. We saw the kinds of photos we heard so much about from Mike's attorney. Ones where Saskia's eyes were open. One in particular has stuck with us.

I remember the first time I saw that photo and I had to immediately close my laptop because, I mean, it's so hard to describe as anything other than horrific. Like, she's not there. No, no. She isn't there. I hate even describing it, but the only way I could describe what I saw is it's like a corpse with her eyes open. It's really upsetting. So when I look at that photo, I think, of course, she doesn't remember this. Yeah. And the idea that images like this where her eyes are open or being used to say that she was awake and consented to everything is so disturbing.

Seeing this image, it felt clearer than ever. What happened to Saskia is real. It matters. And Mike, not Saskia, is to blame. But in the divorce trial, back in 2021, there was only one person that needed to be convinced of all this. That was the judge. And Saskia was unsure what she'd make of these images.

I knew that I wasn't going to be given the benefit of the doubt. Before Mike's attorney could show the videos, the judge asked to review the content herself. She stepped into her chambers to watch in private. As everyone waited for the judge to return, Saskia sat in her kitchen, staring at Mike through her screen. The man who'd hurt her was now in jail. He was just a little box on Zoom. And yet, he had the power to make her feel so small. He was the one behind bars, but the judge was deliberating over Saskia's actions, her character. It felt ridiculous and absurd and dehumanizing that I had to go through that, but I also knew that I just had to get through it.

Saskia knew the truth. The truth is always the best offense. She just hoped the judge would see the truth too. After a brief recess, the judge returned. I have gone through the additional videos and it looks as though Ms. Inwood knows she at points that pictures are being taken. And I'm not sure about knowing she's being videotaped because I don't think I saw anything that expressly shows that. So this could very well be a situation where, you know, a consenting couple of Rita take pictures of each other. and I don't think that that is going to challenge Ms. Inwood's credibility. But I do believe that Mr. Levin Good's attorney should have some opportunity to examine her about that. The judge couldn't say for sure that Saskia did or did not know she was being filmed

or whether she knew this content was being shared. So she asked the officers of the police. court to turn around, and Mike's attorney, Alice Paray, pulled up the evidence. She wanted to show Saskia the videos and make her answer for them in front of everyone. Saskia looked at the video on her screen. Despite what Alice said, this was a video of her being violated, a video that was now being shown to a room full of strangers. It made me feel like a fool. and made me feel like less than a person. The whole time, she couldn't stop thinking about Mike.

It's heartbreaking to think that he put everybody through that just so that he could get away with humiliating me. With Saskia on the stand, the judge let Mike's attorney Alice Paray proceed. Ms. Inwood, do you recall this video? No, I don't. Do you recall when it was fake? Objection.

She just said no, she doesn't recall. Oh, root. Ma'am, do you recall when this video was taken? No, because I don't recall the video. The attorneys fought back and forth on objections and relevance as Saskia just sat there. It was so re-traumatizing to have to defend myself. It's dehumanizing to have your life whittled down to that and to have people talking about things that are affecting your life

and you can't do anything. You're just sitting there helpless, having to listen to it. And it's something I wouldn't wish on anyone. Alice continued cross-examining Saskia for just a couple more minutes, asking Saskia if she posed for pictures for Mike. And then the judge popped in.

You go ahead, Ms. Paray. Anything else you want to ask? No. No other questions of Ms. Inwood? None. I will save my time for Ms. Deleven. All right. All right.

Any, she didn't ask much. Any redirect? No, Your Honor. All right. Thank you. Okay. Alice spent her remaining time questioning Mike again. Before long, she ran out of time.

Both sides closed their cases. In the weeks that followed, Saskia waited and waited for the divorce decision. She wasn't expecting any kind of big win. She just wanted those papers in hand. I had no faith in the justice system anymore. I just wanted it to be over. I was already so disheartened about everything and not hopeful at all.

It was like I was waiting for the time to run out. Everything was just getting in the way of me just being divorced from this monster. I wanted nothing more than to be divorced and be able to move on and I could really say that this is not my husband. This is a monster who was posing as my husband, and now he's totally con. Finally, a few months later, the judge released her decision.

We're going to have a producer read part of it for you. And remember, Mike is the plaintiff here. Saskia is the defendant. The judge wrote, This court credits defendant's testimony and expressly discredits plaintiff's testimony. In other words, she didn't believe Mike. She believed Saskia. Plaintiff attempted to convince this court that defendant was aware of the site

and aware that she was being sexually penetrated and otherwise manipulated by the plaintiff. The court is unconvinced. The evidence revealed defendant has struggled during the party's marriage and before with addiction and mental health issues, making her particularly vulnerable to mistreatment by someone she trusted. Defendant learned only after a very personal, images were broadcast to the world on the internet that she was married to someone whom she could not trust. The plaintiff betrayed his spouse in the worst type of way. He then lied about it and continued

to lie about it. Another judge saw through Mike's lies and came to the same conclusion. On paper, she won. But in reality, to Saskia, it didn't matter. Of course, yes, she found that he was not credible and that I was credible, but it still didn't take away from what I had been through in this divorce and would have been taken away from me. It was exactly how Saskia felt after Mike's plea deal. She was told that this was a good outcome for the court system. But it didn't feel that way. Professor Deborah Turkheimer says that's often how these cases go.

Even in the end, if the survivor is found credible, and there's that vindication that comes along with it. Along the way, the process can be enormously difficult, degrading, even traumatic. Saskia was granted a divorce on the grounds of cruelty. The judge wrote, This court can think of few actions that weren't a divorce on this ground, more so than the rape and sexual exploitation that occurred here. But she had to live through two and a half years.

years of proceedings to get there, when he'd already been convicted in criminal court. She spent two and a half years defending herself, having to answer for every drink she had, every hospital stay, having all of her vulnerabilities put on display when Mike had raped her. And this crime isn't unique to Saskia. You can see his hands, his wedding ring. And then I realized that I am in these images. On the next episode of betrayal, we meet other survivors. It has been a real journey for me to get to the point of realizing that it's not my gut that's broken.

It's him that's broken. For resources on sexual violence, visit rain.org slash betrayal. That's r-a-in-n-n-n.org. slash betrayal. You can also get free confidential 24-7 support through Rain's National Sexual Assault hotline. Just text Hope to 64673 or call 1-800-656-5-6-Hope.

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Hosted and produced by me, Andrea Gunning. Written and produced by Caitlin Golden. Our supervising producer is Carrie Hartman. Our story editor is Monique Laborde. Also produced by Ben Federman. Associate producers are Olivia Hewitt and Leah Jablo. Production Management by Kristen Malkyrie. Additional support.

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Special thanks to Saskia, her friends and family. And special thanks to Will Pearson and Carrie Lieberman. The trail's theme is composed by Oliver Baines, music library provided by Mib Music.

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