Betrayal - EP 25 - Kelsey Pt. 1

Episode Date: January 23, 2025

A relationship is put to the test when Kelsey’s partner receives a terminal diagnosis.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team, email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com and follow us ...on Instagram at @betrayalpod See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 the deceptions that change everything. When I hear other people's horrific stories of things that have happened to them, I now have a lens of what a human experience to love so deeply that we're willing to suspend disbelief that high is like, I truly believe that deception really comes from a deep desire to be loved and I can sympathize a deep desire to be loved, and I can sympathize with the desire to be loved. This is Kelsey's story of building her life around someone else's lies. Lies that consumed Kelsey's twenties derailed her early career and destroyed her sense of
Starting point is 00:02:37 trust. For many years, she tried to hide from the deception she experienced. But now, she's ready to tell her story. As a listener note, names and locations have been changed to protect privacy. When she was a little girl, Kelsey's mom told her the origin story of their family unit. It was a survival story.
Starting point is 00:03:02 My dad was really abusive to all of us kids and my mom. And so my mom was finally able to get out when I was about three months old. She packed all of us up, left my dad, and drove cross country to my mom's hometown. That's where I spent most of my life. Her mom and the three girls started anew in a small West Coast town,
Starting point is 00:03:32 but the fear of her dad was always looming in the background. He actually went to prison after my mom left. And if he got out of prison, there was this fear that my dad would find us one day. Nearly everyone in their new town was Mormon. And their family wasn't. Their dad was Cuban. So Kelsey and her sisters stood out in a sea of blonde hair and blue eyes.
Starting point is 00:03:59 I remember my mom would brush out my hair, so I looked more white. And so I looked like the other Mormon girls in town, and then essentially told me not to talk about my background, which worked because she was also, I think, hiding us from my dad in prison. Her mom's survival story had another chapter. For Kelsey's entire childhood, her mom battled breast cancer. It was finally getting away from my dad, but then she had a bout of cancer she thought she was going
Starting point is 00:04:29 to die from. As a kid, Kelsey didn't know the details. She just knew her mom was exhausted and was always going to the hospital. And that was definitely on purpose. I think that she wanted to be super careful. And even when I asked her about it, I even remember her saying, this was private, this is adult things. I don't wanna scare you. I'm protecting you from this information. Kelsey's escape was the Girl Scouts. I had this tiny pocket of girlhood that was so fun,
Starting point is 00:05:02 like waiting once a week with my girlfriends to earn badges. When I think about where I felt like I mattered most, it was there. Over the summer, she started going to Girl Scout Camp. There, she was allowed to just be a kid. I would go for weeks at a time. I just loved summer camp. I was meeting women who were older than me, who were models of what it was like to really be yourself. Ugh, I have the best memories at Girl Scout Camp. The women who ran the camp were Kelsey's idols. She wanted to be just like them. I just thought they were so special and cool.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I just thought, that's it. I'll be there one day. As she got older and entered high school, she started dreaming about broadening her horizons. I just thought, that's it, I'll be there one day. As she got older and entered high school, she started dreaming about broadening her horizons. I'm going to do whatever it takes to get out of the state I was raised in and really find myself. So I got perfect grades and worked really hard in school.
Starting point is 00:06:01 But this was also around the same time that I fell in love for the first time and I fell in love with a girl in the grade above me. Kelsey and her high school girlfriend kept their relationship a secret. It was in the mid-2000s and they were in a mostly Mormon community. At the time, I think I was afraid of being gay. Definitely afraid of the implications of it. So she set her sights on going to college in a place where she could be out and be herself.
Starting point is 00:06:31 She was accepted to her first choice and made the leap. I loved being on my own for the first time. I came out and openly had a relationship and thought that was so special. And I was doing really good in school. But her family's finances took an unexpected turn. So after the first year, Kelsey had to transfer to a new university, one that she'd be paying for herself. I transferred to the public university. I was just pretty isolated and it wasn't the dream for me, but it's all I could afford.
Starting point is 00:07:07 She worked to put herself through college and she started working summers as a counselor at her old Girl Scout camp. It was life-changing and I loved it. By her third summer, she earned an executive leadership role at the camp, helping coordinate all the younger counselors. I was doing real programming work and I went to summer camp an executive leadership role at the camp, helping coordinate all the younger counselors. I was doing real programming work and I went to summer camp that year early because senior staff meets early before counselors get there. Arriving at camp was a much anticipated reunion
Starting point is 00:07:39 where she saw all of her closest friends again. I had a lot of friends at camp. Like I had been really established there. This was the first work experience I ever had when I was out. And for the first time at camp, we had other queer people. They really diversified our pool of hiring that year. One of the new counselors immediately
Starting point is 00:07:58 caught Kelsey's attention. Her name was Morgan. I remember her walking into the office. She was very sporty, so she had the classic REI look. And then they'll cut off hair. And she just had the most beautiful eyes. I just remember thinking, ah, mostly because it was the most radical thing I'd ever known for some
Starting point is 00:08:20 of the cut off their hair. When they first met, Morgan was shy. She kept to herself and seemed guarded. I found her to be really mysterious. But she and Morgan had a close mutual friend in common. My other camp friend really vouched for her and was like, trust me, when she opens up, you're going to love her.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And over time she did. It felt like she chose Kelsey. I felt really honored. I just felt like she kind of opened up more to me. I felt really privileged to be the one person that she was opening up to. Like we would spend the weekend after training, just talking. And everyone's like, oh my gosh, I can't believe you got her to talk to you. That's how shy she was. And she was telling me like really intimate details about her life. That's how shy she was. And she was telling me like really intimate details about her life. Even though Morgan was only 20 years old, she'd been through a lot.
Starting point is 00:09:20 She had shared about some sexual assault, body dysmorphia, struggles with an eating disorder. I just felt like I really knew her. Morgan confided in her. Forming close bonds was a hallmark of the camp experience. They would be spending every day together for the next three months. In camp time, that's three years. It's a massive amount of time that people don't normally get to spend in a very intense environment, where you're
Starting point is 00:09:44 like growing and learning and changing about yourself and learning things from kids and teaching kids of remarkable things that change you. It really is a lifetime together. At camp, there were no cell phones, no distractions from the outside world. And in this bubble, Kelsey knew she was developing feelings for Morgan,
Starting point is 00:10:04 but she was in a leadership role. And then there was this. Camp relationships are famously compassionate and intense and destructive, which is why we avoid them at all costs. So they continued on with a supercharged friendship. It was a connection Morgan needed. At home, she'd been struggling with an eating disorder. She had shared that she was really struggling with her eating disorder at camp. And eating with your campers is such a huge part of the experience. Like you're with your campers 24-7 and we're really rigid at camp about calorie intake and water intake.
Starting point is 00:10:43 That kind of structure and vigilance around food was really triggering for Morgan. In fact, it was having an impact on her job performance. She had gotten disciplinary write-ups from the camp director. If she didn't get it under control, this was not going to be the job for her. The idea of losing Morgan at camp was upsetting. get it under control, this was not going to be the job for her. The idea of losing Morgan at camp was upsetting. Kelsey felt a responsibility to help as both a friend and a camp executive. And so she was really nervous about losing her job because she really loved the work.
Starting point is 00:11:18 I remember spending all of my free time. I got books from the local library and brought them up to camp and was reading about eating disorders. Like I really became her resource to stay in. I was like, I'll help you stay. Don't worry. I've got this under control. And I really felt responsible for that. They were spending a lot of time together. Even when they had days off. We would travel as friends, like off to go to Walmart and get face wipes or to a local festival. We tried to get as much time off from camp as possible. My outside of camp time became Morgan time. About halfway through the summer, they took a day off together
Starting point is 00:11:59 and drove to Kelsey's hometown. And I just think there was this little switch. One weekend we were just alone for the first time really together and then we kissed. Now it was clear that the attraction was mutual. After that week we started sharing like a journal so we had a notebook that we would write notes to each other and then keep it in a cubby and then I'd write it putby and then I'd write it, put it away, and she'd write it and put it away. And so we sort of had this very sweet romance at camp. Near the end of camp, Morgan's parents came to town. They were devout Mormons. And on that visit, Morgan wanted to come out to them. Kelsey drove her to meet them, to be there for emotional support.
Starting point is 00:12:47 She met with her parents and I wasn't with her. I was in the parking lot, but I remember seeing them at a picnic bench. She came out to them and it didn't go well. She got back in the car. She was like, they believe I'm living in sin. They think this is wrong. They think that any person who had influence over me is of the devil and that I should separate myself from those people. She was really, really emotional about it. Her parents' rejection brought the two of them even closer. It sort of deepened that connection.
Starting point is 00:13:26 It was like, look what we're fighting for. There was so much at stake and Morgan was now left on her own. They made their relationship official and when camp ended, Morgan couldn't go home. So they decided to move in together. We were all like, look how adult we are. We're all in space and are in beds. So it wasn't like, oh, I live with my girlfriend now. It was very much like we were just continuing
Starting point is 00:13:53 the summer camp experience. I think we were on that high of the summer fling. It was Kelsey's last year of college. At first, living with Morgan was a novelty. Even mundane tasks were exciting. Figuring out bus schedules, like everything was just really fun. I also remember doing paintball fights and making cookies and burning them for the neighbors. But soon, reality set in.
Starting point is 00:14:22 I was working also a full-time job while I was in school because I had to pay for it. I was doing everything to put me on the trajectory to go to my master's program. And at this point, I was on track to be valedictorian. Kelsey's priority was school. We just weren't getting as much time together and we're like drifting a little bit. But right when the semester began picking up steam, Kelsey started receiving emails from Morgan's family.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I remember them very explicitly. One was from her dad, one was from her mom saying that it was an abomination, that I was poisoning Morgan, that I took her away from the life of Christ. It didn't help that the person Morgan was waiting for to come back from a mission had come back and they had really hoped that she would marry him. Every time I got a message from them it was very nasty. The message was clear. They thought Kelsey brainwashed their daughter and they wanted her to leave Morgan alone. Morgan's very sacred and pure, stop this now before you ruin that forever for her.
Starting point is 00:15:36 Like they deeply wanted to make me hate myself so I didn't feel deserving of Morgan. The messages were overwhelming. After a couple months, it got complicated very quickly. It was just that feeling of thinking that I was destroying someone's salvation. It was taxing. But Morgan was fixated. All she wanted to do was talk about her parents with Kelsey.
Starting point is 00:16:07 It's like, I'm with you, I care about you, but like I can't process this with you all the time. I think I started feeling like she needs to branch out, like I realistically can't be everything for her. Between the stress of school and the drama with Morgan's parents, Kelsey's connection with Morgan, was fading. That intimate connection felt like it stayed at camp. In the real world, it was kind of hard to sustain because I had a lot of ambition. I was really excited about starting my life somewhere new and it just suddenly was like, oh, this is kind of affecting my ability to be present at work and school and I'm really rigid about doing right by my career. So Kelsey made a tough decision. Ultimately, I came home from school one day and said, this is not what I want anymore
Starting point is 00:16:59 and I think it's better if we break up. She said, okay, and then left, which she would do a lot when she was trying to process something, she would go for a run. So she went for a run and came back and I was already asleep. And she was asleep and we went to bed. The next day, Kelsey came home from school to find Morgan on their couch in tears. There was something she needed to tell Kelsey. I sat down with her and she had explained that she had been hiding something from me,
Starting point is 00:17:31 that she didn't want to talk to me about because she didn't want to burden me with it, but she just got really bad news. I honestly thought at the time that it was something with her parents. But it wasn't about her parents. That's when she shared that she had been living with terminal bone cancer, and she was in remission.
Starting point is 00:17:54 But her doctors gave her the prognosis when she was at the doctor today that she had three months to live. that she had three months to live. time to remind them. Yellowstone fans, step into the Yellowstone universe. Our family legacy is this ranch. And I'll protect it with my life. Hosted by Bobby Bones, the official Yellowstone podcast takes you deeper into the franchise that's captivated millions worldwide.
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Starting point is 00:20:38 Kelsey was no stranger to cancer. She grew up watching her mother's breast cancer go into remission and return again. It was a horrible cycle. And to think another person she loved was going through this was hard to fathom. I don't think I got it at first. Morgan had known about the diagnosis all along, but she was just telling her now that the cancer had returned when she only had three months to live.
Starting point is 00:21:07 I asked her more details. She said she was diagnosed when she first went to college. She had an injury, a bone break. They did some testing and they discovered that she had cancer. She was fighting it for about a semester, but she beat that bout and then hadn't had a recurrence until that day. She was so flooded with grief for Morgan that the breakup became an afterthought. I remember feeling so deeply sad because my breakup with Morgan was never about not loving her. I cared about her so deeply.
Starting point is 00:21:49 The thought of her dying was insane to me and felt so unfair. Especially to have this prognosis with her family not being very close. I was devastated for her. We were sobbing and then we went to bed and I remember holding her thinking, no, no, this is like my partner going through cancer. This isn't, oh, my ex-girlfriend from yesterday. This was someone I love so deeply, dying. Like this really is the end of someone's life.
Starting point is 00:22:29 The next morning, Kelsey woke up with a new perspective. It changed the way I framed our relationship. I felt grateful that she was alive, and I was ready to figure this out together. So she sat down at the kitchen table with her laptop and a notepad to talk about what this would mean. Luckily, Morgan had some answers. She's like, I already have a plan with my doctor. We're gonna start treatment. It's really unlikely that I'll survive this treatment, but it's worthy of taking a shot.
Starting point is 00:22:57 And so that's what she did. During the day, Kelsey would attend class for her senior year of college, and Morgan would spend the day at the hospital. The next few weeks, she was doing treatment all the day, Kelsey would attend class for her senior year of college, and Morgan would spend the day at the hospital. The next few weeks, she was doing treatment all the time, like four or five times a week. She would leave the house and come back really tired and struggle to keep a conversation, struggle to stay awake. She was just deeply impacted by the treatment.
Starting point is 00:23:24 Quickly, Kelsey took on a caretaker role. I started really doing some research and taking care of her. I was making meals. Once again, she was juggling the weight of school and being there for Morgan. I distinctly remember trying to complete homework and being like, I can't finish this.
Starting point is 00:23:44 She's puking somewhere. Thinking like, get your priorities straight. This is someone's life, this is the end of their human life. And you're worried about like not finishing this math problem. Like why was I wasting my time on these early morning classes for like my own benefit when she only had a few months left to live?
Starting point is 00:24:04 I just suddenly felt selfish and stupid. And that's really the moment that I reframed my entire life. For the first time in her life, Kelsey let school take a backseat. I was letting go of a lot of things I'd worked my whole life toward, but I was like, I can do this for three months for somebody to enjoy the last few months of their life. Christmas was a few weeks away. With Morgan's family out of the picture,
Starting point is 00:24:28 they decided to celebrate with a family friend. An older woman named Joanne had been a mentor to Morgan for years. She considered her like a second mom. We drove out of state to visit her. This family friend was with her when Morgan got her first diagnosis of having bone cancer. And she was with her when she was doing IV treatments.
Starting point is 00:24:51 To meet someone who was so intimately involved with her treatments, I felt really bonded right away. I remember her saying, I didn't even know what I was doing, I just got kind of thrown into this. I was like, I didn't know what I was doing either. It was a relief to talk with someone else who'd been involved with Morgan's care. She was a great resource. For Christmas, Morgan and Kelsey got each other something special. We got rings for our wedding. Rings for their wedding. Morgan wanted to get married to Kelsey. It was a legal and financial decision.
Starting point is 00:25:21 wanted to get married to Kelsey. It was a legal and financial decision. Her attorney had shared with her that when she died, her health payout would be really big and it would go to her parents because that's next of kin. And that was really overwhelming for her. Like she had fought so hard for her queerness and now suddenly in her death as a queer woman, all this money would be granted to her parents.
Starting point is 00:25:45 But if she were married to me, then I would get to decide where that money goes. Morgan wanted the money to be donated to a library foundation. Kelsey was honored to help facilitate one of her final wishes. Of course, whatever you need to do what you wanna do with the end of your life.
Starting point is 00:26:06 So for her, this was a really meaningful way of honoring her life. So we agreed that we would get married. Kelsey felt a responsibility to make sure every day was a good day. I tried to make our life so joyful and loving and silly. And that's how we just tried to spend our time. We didn't have very much left. But the days were still difficult, especially as Morgan's health worsened.
Starting point is 00:26:36 She would go to treatment and come back and throw up. She was tired all the time. I remember coming home from work and she'd have like fallen over. She seemed very weak to me. And this is also how my mom would describe her treatments going through breast cancer. Morgan would like lose her hair. I'd come home and she'd have taken a nap
Starting point is 00:26:58 and she'd have hair on the pillow. I'd be like, oh my God, your hair. This only furthered Kelsey's resolve to support Morgan. She offered again to go to the hospital with her, to be by her side as she got treatment. Morgan said no. She didn't want to be a burden. She was very, very clear that this was her private journey and that she'd already burdened me enough and she didn't want me to lose work or lose school.
Starting point is 00:27:24 After all, it was Kelsey's job that kept them afloat financially. As the weeks went on, the treatment seemed to be slowing the progression of her cancer and Morgan hit the three-month mark. By that time we had gotten word that she'd beat that bout of cancer.
Starting point is 00:27:40 There was a lot of medical language, but essentially it was like, we're doing good, hold on. Not you'll live, but like I'm feeling okay today and for the next couple weeks because I think this treatment is working. For the past three months, Kelsey had been bracing herself for the end, putting her all into caring for Morgan. It had been exhausting. I still worked full-time.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I still finished my degree. By the time graduation came around, I just like barely made it. Like I barely emotionally, physically, spiritually made it. I just remember being an empty person when my family came for graduation. I just felt like nothing. In her last semester, she earned B's and C's, and her dreams of being valedictorian were
Starting point is 00:28:32 dashed. Instead of giving the valedictorian speech, she applied to be an honorary student speaker at commencement. I was able to stand alongside the valedictorian, which would have been me, and share my story about what happened with my partner, like what it really meant for me to give up my schooling in order to help someone I loved. After she graduated, they finally had the time to plan a small wedding ceremony. At the time, same-sex marriage wasn't legal in their state,
Starting point is 00:29:06 so they had to travel. She didn't feel good enough to fly, but she did feel good enough to drive. So that's when we booked our trip for our wedding ceremony. Kelsey drove them to California with Morgan asleep in the passenger seat. Along the way, they camped in national parks. There was something really beautiful and intimate. It felt like the end to me.
Starting point is 00:29:37 She just didn't seem all there. But there's something about being in nature together and our dynamic started in nature. It was actually really beautiful. The whole trip we took, It was actually really beautiful. The whole trip we took disposable cameras and it was very fleeting and lovely. And I remember one of the nights just before we had our ceremony, we slept on the beach of the Lost Coast and there was something really poetic about waking up. Morgan was still sleeping and I got out of the tent and like looked out into the ocean and just thought like, if I can love someone this big, one day after Morgan's passing, someone will be able to love me in this way back.
Starting point is 00:30:15 The day before the ceremony, they both sat down to write their vows. We wrote our vows on hotel napkins. My white dress is in the corner. I'm like sitting down with this piece of paper and I suddenly didn't know what to say. Feeling vows are for promising to someone, but I don't know how to promise something to her in her death. Like it just suddenly felt wrong.
Starting point is 00:30:42 Maybe it was nerves. She couldn't help but overthink the whole thing. I got a something in my head and so I like kind of cleared my head of everything. And this was the commitment she made. Promising her that the memory of her and who I knew her to be and like the love that people didn't get the chance to know, especially her family, that would live on. They delivered their vows and signed the papers in Sequoia National Park.
Starting point is 00:31:16 We drove into the woods and found a really neat tree. That was two trees that corkscrewed into one. And there was like one little spot where you could squeeze into. And so we squeezed into these trees and signed the paperwork and we left. Being officially married was a relief. It was the final thing Morgan wanted to do before she passed away. We drove back from California and I was like driving into the sun as it was going down thinking I know in my heart that I've done everything that I possibly can for Morgan
Starting point is 00:31:54 to feel loved well. Like I felt like I had finished what I needed to do. I remember her looking at me with a lot of love and like she saw me as a wife. Like I almost felt her relief, like, okay, got it. Everything's going to be okay. I obviously interpret that differently now. Everyone's forgotten who runs this valley. Time to remind them. Everyone's forgotten who runs this valley.
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Starting point is 00:34:48 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. In less than a year, Kelsey and Morgan went from being 21-year-olds at camp to being a married couple handling a terminal disease. Now they were committed to each other for however much time Morgan had left. Kelsey had been accepted into a master's program across the country.
Starting point is 00:35:21 Neither of them expected Morgan to be alive for that next chapter. We're legally married and now it's a little complicated because I don't know how to bring up, like how am I supposed to navigate the next few months. Morgan's successful treatment meant she had more time. She could take a break from treatment, but her cancer was still deemed terminal. No one knew how long she really had left, not even her doctors. It was very much like, this is what we've been told
Starting point is 00:35:57 and we're lucky to have this little bit of extra time. It was suddenly another continuation, another chapter of live like you're dying. Kelsey didn't know what this meant for her plans to start graduate school. She barely got through her last semester. I was really conflicted. I was like, oh no, this is everything I've worked for and I can still go. I still got in and I can still do it. but I can't because it's gonna be with Morgan and I'm grateful that she's still alive
Starting point is 00:36:29 I'm truly grateful, but I also feel like I've lost myself and I don't know how to gain it back if she's still here Like I hadn't planned for it She was worried about juggling her master's program and supporting Morgan at the same time She didn't even know if she could handle that. But she decided. I said we would do this and we're married now. And so now we're gonna travel across the country and start my master's together. They rented a U-Haul and began the cross country drive.
Starting point is 00:36:59 Along the way, they made a pit stop to see Joanne, Morgan's mentor. She was sort of our middle point between the West Coast and the East Coast. And when we got to her place, I immediately sensed that there was some sort of tension between them, like maybe an argument had been had and I didn't know about it. It just felt like we were kind of dancing around something that was unsaid. It was clear something had come between Joanne and Morgan. Joanne said she wanted to talk to Kelsey in private,
Starting point is 00:37:30 but they just couldn't find the right moment. At the end of their stay, "...I could tell that she was holding back from saying something, but she just said, okay, good luck, and that was it. So there was sort of this mystery about this odd dynamic we had walked away from, and that made me nervous. I distinctly remember being in the U-Haul and Morgan being asleep next to me and thinking,
Starting point is 00:37:57 we're about to move to a new state. I don't know anyone in, she doesn't know anyone in, we have no friends or family. And the one really close family connection that she has, she sort of just had a rupture with. It was really the first time I thought like, oh, this is really just us now. When they arrived in their new city, they had to face the reality of living alone. Kelsey found a job in hospitality while she started her
Starting point is 00:38:25 master's degree, but Morgan was too sick to work. And the reality of affording grad school, working full-time, going to school full-time, paying for both of our lives and also paying for cancer treatments, medicines, was really a tremendous burden. Kelsey was only 22 and she was the sole provider. Morgan found new doctors. And now that they were married, Kelsey was paying for more of Morgan's care. I would say like 25% of every paycheck was going to Morgan. And so after a couple months of being on the East Coast,
Starting point is 00:39:06 it was like thousands and thousands of dollars we were pouring into anything related to her health. She became hyper fixated on financials. I remember specifically Googling what it actually costs if someone dies. She wanted to be cremated and I just remember looking at this $1,500 price tag thinking I'm never going to get what I need to cremate her.
Starting point is 00:39:30 But she found it hard to have open conversations with Morgan about it. Because she didn't want to talk about death. It was just like, every tiny little thing was overwhelmingly my responsibility. It had been a year since Morgan shared her diagnosis. Even though Kelsey was now paying for Morgan's care, she still wasn't privy to the details of it. I wasn't even sure how to broach the topic of like, can we go together to your doctor to get an update on what we can look at? Can we
Starting point is 00:40:02 reassess your medications? But Morgan didn't want to talk about it. She wanted to do everything alone. to get an update on what we can look at. Can we reassess your medications? But Morgan didn't wanna talk about it. She wanted to do everything alone. And that worried Kelsey. What happens if I don't know where you are? How do I get like your health record? There was suddenly some like logistics
Starting point is 00:40:17 that didn't really have the answers to. The lack of information was becoming a real problem for Kelsey. It became a wedge in their relationship. This is where things started shifting in our dynamic, where it's like, I need real concrete answers. What is your current prognosis? Like, how is your body doing?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Where is the cancer in your body? Without any answers, she was getting frustrated. She felt like she couldn't help Morgan if she didn't have all the information. That year they spent Christmas with Kelsey's family. We flew home. Morgan was so sick that she could barely even talk. She was lethargic. She was sleeping all the time. She was throwing up. Whatever new medication, whatever new treatment she was trying was really taxing. Like I remember taking photos together that trip and she's sleeping in all of them. This was the second time they thought it was their last Christmas together. And it was the first time Kelsey's mom was getting to really spend time with Morgan.
Starting point is 00:41:18 My mom had pulled me aside at some point during this holiday and she was the first one to be like, at some point during this holiday and she was the first one to be like, does this seem off at all to you? And it was really the first time someone like said something that made me think like, what do you mean off? I was immediately defensive. Still Kelsey's mom insisted that something didn't add up. She was starting to feel skeptical about Morgan's story. My mom, who obviously has experience of cancer, was like, it just feels off.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Like when she's around us, something feels off. Before this moment, Kelsey had never doubted Morgan's diagnosis. For nearly two years, her entire life revolved around Morgan's help. I had felt like a bad person for even feeling burdened by cancer. I had never considered doubting it at all. But this is when I started to feel doubtful. And that was when she started breaking bones. started breaking bones.
Starting point is 00:42:29 On the next episode of Betrayal. I got a Facebook message. She's like, I've been down a rabbit hole about Morgan. I have proof there's a lot more to the story. And that's when it really blew open. If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal team or want to tell us your Betrayal story, email us at betrayalpod at gmail.com. That's Betrayal, P-O-D, at gmail.com.
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