Betrayal - S2: E3 - Ruins

Episode Date: June 1, 2023

Chaos ensues once Ashley’s husband is arrested, and the news becomes public. As a mother of three, she is left to pick up the pieces for her family. We learn the range of penalties on the table are ...not what we expect them to be.  If you would like to reach out to the Betrayal Team email us at betrayalpod@gmail.com.   To report a case of child sexual exploitation, call The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's CyberTipline at 1-800-THE-LOST  If you or someone you know is worried about their sexual thoughts and feelings towards children, find help at stopitnow.org  Where to Find Jessica Baum and her book Anxiously Attached: www.jessicabaumlmhc.com/anxiously-attached See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:42 I'm grateful to all that have shown me love and compassion. ever happens again. I'm grateful to all that have shown me love and compassion. They've shown me that this isn't the end of my story and this doesn't have to define me the rest of my life. I'm Andrea Gunning and this is Betrayal, episode three, Ruins. Reports of Jason Littins' arrests were all over the local news and on Facebook pages. Avella, Ashley's oldest daughter, and a victim, found out when her friend's mother asked her if anyone else had been videotaped in the house.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Ashley's 15-year-old son was stoic and refused to discuss it. She tried to explain what happened to her youngest, but it was a lot for a nine-year-old to understand. The way that Ashley said was like, daddy is in trouble. He's in jail for doing something he wasn't supposed to. And she just went off the rails, like asking all of these questions,
Starting point is 00:02:49 like, am I going to see him again? What does that mean? It's going to be gone forever. How do you explain this to a nine-year-old? Her dad was taken away. Her kids lost their dad and she lost her husband. It's like he died. He was like my security blanket. He didn't do much for me,
Starting point is 00:03:07 but make me feel safe and make me feel just he was there and I don't know. I just really, really miss my life. In the aftermath, Ashley was just trying to hold on and leaned on her best friend, Emmy, for support. In an instant, he was gone. I still dream about it. I still hear her sob.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I still dream of holding her, but to have to sit there and listen to that. And no, there was absolutely nothing I could do to make her feel better to change things. There was nothing I could do to make her feel better to change things. There was nothing I could do During their marriage Ashley recognized that things weren't normal, but there's only so much you can do for a person I had told myself that There was a mental illness going on and he wouldn't go see anybody for it Clearly Jason was dealing with something but his poor behavior had existed for most of
Starting point is 00:04:05 his adult life. Jason had made appalling choices at times, but Ashley always gave him the benefit of the doubt. Candace Holden and her husband Jeff were good friends with Ashley and Jason. She shares a very awkward encounter some years back. And Candace just had a baby girl that you might hear in the background. My husband was playing football for us and my pro football league and tore his ACL and partially towards MCL. He had surgery on it and it was couple weeks after his surgery that we drove to Salt Lake and we were
Starting point is 00:04:37 seeing the night at Jason and Ashley's. They had us in the basement and just had like a brand new bottle of painkillers with him. I want to say that he had pulled it out to take one when we were upstairs. So that's how I feel Jason knew that the bottle was with us. But we went downstairs with it and we went to bed. The next morning half the bottle was gone. I went to Ashley and she was like, no, no, he wouldn't.
Starting point is 00:05:08 We didn't need her to validate that. I just felt bad that she believed his side so strongly. Jeff was frustrated so he went to Jason, he absolutely denied it. But it didn't change the fact that literally half the bottle was gone. In my opinion, when Jason would lie, especially about something big, he would get like overly emotional. You know, he's on the verge of crying, just kind of like a little kid that gets in trouble
Starting point is 00:05:36 and they start crying because you don't believe them and they know they're busted, but they're gonna, you know, get upset because they want you to believe them. That was always kind of a red flag to me, like you're over doing this innocence thing, but they're gonna get upset because they want you to believe them. That was always kind of a red flag to me like, you're over doing this innocence thing, which is just making me think that you're more guilty.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Handus also recalls Jason's work ethic from his 20s. My husband got him a job at the company that he worked at and they would carpool together and he was constantly calling in sick or my husband was going next door knocking on the door to essentially get him up in the morning to go to work and I just felt like Ashley could you know have somebody more self-motivated in her life. We've all been there. We've heard our friends talk about
Starting point is 00:06:21 relationships or their marriages and deep down, you feel like they deserve better. Until they come to that realization themselves, there isn't much you can do but listen. I spoke with Jessica Baum, who has been working with Ashley over the past couple of months to help her learn more about herself. Jessica is the author of Anxiously Attached, becoming more secure in life and love. I'm a psychotherapist with a license in mental health counseling, and I have a private practice. We work on family systems issues, trauma, addiction, and couples. Jessica also specializes in attachment styles. What draws us towards and keeps us with another
Starting point is 00:07:00 person. And like many of our traits, those tendencies are established in childhood. It appears that she has a lot of childhood trauma. Her diet was pretty overwhelmed and her mom was pretty sick. So she played different roles in her family system. She also was preentified and took care of her mom and took a care taking role. And she also had a role of acting out to get her needs met. But none of them were like really truly attuning to her needs and seeing her in a healthy way. So I think as soon as she was able to escape
Starting point is 00:07:29 into her first relationship, I'm sure that gave her relief and much of her childhood was kind of escaping some of what she wasn't ready to deal with or what was really going on for her, so she adapted in many different ways. And one of those ways was through relationships and finding some relief initially through her relationships, which then turned into really unhealthy patterns and strategies and a kind of a nightmare. Her first boyfriend, Matt, had been a kind of protector when Ashley was at school. He made sure she had a good school on every day
Starting point is 00:08:01 and he was her happy place outside of home. But then he descended into addiction, and the relationship descended into chaos. But in the beginning it does provide her a sanctuary or relief from her underlying core grief or wounds or unmet needs. And Jason was that person when Ashley had two small children and was on her own. Her family said as much when he first came into their lives. I love Jason, you could just see how nice and kind
Starting point is 00:08:32 he was to her. I thought, wow, she's found a good guy. He was like, night chiming armor. I was like, here's this normal dude that wants to be with me. Ashley's husband had stolen prescription pills from a friend, lied to his employer, stayed alone in their bedroom for days on end. Sure, all of these were red flags
Starting point is 00:08:53 that Jason had problems, but they weren't deal breakers. They couldn't be. Even if our intuition or gut says this could be true or there might be some truth to that. There's a very strong part of us that doesn't want to believe. Something might be wrong for many reasons. I can tell you for Ashley, a lot of her own denial, even if underneath it, there was an undercurrent of maybe something's wrong is that if there is something wrong, her whole world would shatter. And so in this world that she created for her family and what she loved about her world was very contingent on who he was when he came into the
Starting point is 00:09:30 relationship and what he did for her and the safety that he provided for her. Out of all the possibilities of what might be going on with him, Jason viewing child pornography and videotaping their daughter, never crossed her mind. It just doesn't enter the realm of possibility. Not as her, would I have ever, ever even considered anything like this. Avea had an order of protection against him, so he went to live with a relative, but that wasn't nearly enough to make her feel safe. So this is the bedroom.
Starting point is 00:10:12 I don't like coming in here and I'd waited it for a long time because of how hard it was. Ashley's home has a great layout for teenagers. The lower floor has two bedrooms, a bathroom, and a den area. So the older kids feel like they have a little privacy. She showed me exactly how Jason violated it. Just for reference, her bedroom's almost in the basement, so her bedroom has like an egress window. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:10:38 And he would stand outside of this window and film her. He told Ashley the reason he was going outdoors at night was because he discovered a new stargazing app. I just chalked it up as like another weird thing that he was in, but he was so believable. Like, he was gung-ho about stars and he was telling the kids about this solar system and this star pattern and showing them things. Like, that's how manipulative he was. Seeing the layout of the house made the secret taping seem even more insidious. I don't understand. Like, our backyard is mud and bog poo.
Starting point is 00:11:22 I avoided at all costs. The only time I was back there this year was to spray off my air conditioner, make sure no weeds were growing around it. I actually tried to make the room feel more secure by installing a frosted window so you can't see through it. Then I'd have like to lock on it and everything because I wanted her to feel safe. I wanted her to know that nobody's gonna get in here. But um, she still just couldn't deal with it. I wanted her to know that nobody's gonna get in here, but She still just couldn't deal with it
Starting point is 00:11:57 Ashley sister Anna. I mean, I think she left pretty soon after we found out the extent of the videos Is it hard being in here? Yeah, it is. It makes me cry because I miss her so much. I just miss her. I mentioned Ashley's first love, Matt. They were together all through high school until she was in her early 20s. She ultimately took their two kids and left him because of his drug addiction.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Matt is clean now, and while they have visits Ashley's house often, she moved you with Matt full time. A day was afraid to sleep at Ashley's after she learned what Jason had done. He robbed them of stability, of structure, of trust. I'm so mad at him for that. And I hope one day she can feel safe with my sister again. Hi, my name is Cooper and I'm a mini golden doodle from Crocodoodles. And one bit late, the cover. Now I know what you're thinking. Talking dogs?
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Starting point is 00:15:59 in shock. This particular person called and we met for coffee. I was so embarrassed and I couldn't go into the coffee shops we stayed in our car and top. The rumor mill was working over time. She's like the girls told me that there was a camera in the shower because all of it and her friends would come to our house and get ready and have fun and they'd shower, you know. And so I was like, no, there's not a camera. I asked the detective and he said that if they would have had any inclination that those videos were recorded in any other fashion, they would have taken everything that can connect to the internet.
Starting point is 00:16:40 But neighbors and other parents still didn't want to send their children to play or hang out at Ashley's house. It was humiliating. My house was the hangout house. I don't really have alcohol in my home, so I think everyone's family just felt comfortable with all their kids here. So they don't come here anymore. Her home wasn't a safe place anymore, And Ashley didn't feel safe going out. I couldn't go in public. Like even going to the grocery store, the gas station,
Starting point is 00:17:12 anywhere is super, super hard. I think it's because I don't want to see people that we know together. Ashley didn't want to explain. What happened? Did you know what he was doing? Are you getting divorced? She had not committed a sin against children. She had not broken the law. She had not destroyed their family. But she felt like she wore a scarlet letter anyway. When you have everything that makes you a human, taken away from you,
Starting point is 00:17:45 you are left with the real stuff. All of those different pieces were crumbling, and I just was running around trying to pick them up, pick up the pieces of our lives that we showed to our families, or to our neighbors, or to our community, or to this, and I just kept trying to pick them up, and I was trying to keep them together
Starting point is 00:18:05 when it was completely broken. While everything was crumbling, Jason was sending the children letters from jail. Ashley protected the kids from reading them. She thought it would only compound their trauma at the time. Now that significant time has passed and she's talked with her kids, she feels it's important to share how much Jason disassociated his criminal behavior from his role as a parent. Here are a few examples. To his son, hey stud, I hope everything is going good and you're kicking button football. Into Avella, I hope you're doing good and having an awesome day. Hope
Starting point is 00:18:47 soccer is going well. Always stay my proud, confident, beautiful daughter. His words wreaked of tone-deaf denial. He wrote as if he were on a business trip. Jason stopped writing to his two-step children. He continues to write his biological daughter. After making sure the letters are appropriate, Ashley lets her daughter read them. Eventually, Jason's absence from the house set in and Ashley needed to move the family forward. I didn't stay home for two weeks.
Starting point is 00:19:19 And finally, I was like, listen guys, we can run away from this for the rest of our lives or we can just confront it and just get these first few days over with. And I'll go back to work. You guys go back to school. A bit, I couldn't do it. Jason was charged with 10 counts of sexual exploitation of a minor, a second degree felony. For the thousand plus child sexual abuse images that he had in his possession,
Starting point is 00:19:48 they included children as young as seven years old. He was also charged with two counts of voyeurism for secretly recording Aveda. When Ashley reflected on it, she realized that Jason had treated Aveda differently than her other children. He was always mean to her. Like, I thought maybe he was just being concerned,
Starting point is 00:20:09 or maybe even a stern parent. But looking back now, it was just mean. Ashley's father, John, recalled tension when he came to pick up the kids at the house. When I got to the door, he was just screaming in the van. And I walked in, and as soon as I walked in, he pushed right up. We did talk about that one time. And I said, yelling and screaming is I'm going to get you anywhere, man. Thirty days after Jason was arrested, he was released.
Starting point is 00:20:37 Yes, there would be rules and restrictions, but he would be out in the community. And he would be free until his case went to trial. It would take more than a year before he was back in a courtroom to face justice. They just gave him some stipulations like, you can't have a smartphone, no computer, no internet, nothing. Actually had so many questions she had never been able to ask Jason. After he got out, he was staying with his grandpa and I went over there that morning to take him his clothes and things like that and ask him all of those really yucky questions.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Like if you masturbate to our daughter, why did you save those photos? And he sweared a wasn't sexual. Ashley made sure he had clothes and a non-smart phone. She tried to help him find a job. It's hard to understand why she felt obligated to help him. If anyone tells you that leaving and grieving a toxic relation to his easy and straightforward, they probably never been in one. During one of Jessica and Ashley's therapy sessions, which they gave us permission to
Starting point is 00:21:50 record and share, Jess was able to glean some insight into Ashley's mindset at the time. What you went to gel, I started trying to reconcile, like, understand it. Because at that point, I knew he had recorded her, but what I thought was that he had recorded her doing everything, you know, doing homework, getting ready, whatever, trying to catch her, like, vaping or smoking pot or, you know,
Starting point is 00:22:17 being in appropriate voice or whatever, you know. And that's what I had assumed. And I still thought it was weird, but I thought it was like part of maybe his psychotic break or whatever. Well, I'm sure part of your psyche wanted to believe it, and there's a part of him that probably wasn't the Nile of the seriousness as well. I mean, it's hard to get hit on the head with something like that. You know, you want to assume the best, even though it's kind of glaring.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah, like right when he got out of gel. His behavior started to change for the better. Yeah, it was everything I wanted it to be. With the weight of everything, any indication that what her husband did was not so bad was a straw she grasped. What's this number for? And he'd have to discovery from his lawyer. was a straw she grasped. What's this number four?
Starting point is 00:23:09 And he had to discovery from his lawyer. And I was like, well, I'd really like to read that. And he's like, oh, no, let's do that. And I was like, no, I want to read this. So he got it out. And I start reading through it. And then I realized that he's trying to get me to rush over these couple of pages. And so I ripped it out of his hand,
Starting point is 00:23:26 and it was the pages that detailed his voyeurism on a band. That's when I realized he had lied. I started reading in detail that each one of the times that he had filmed her was premeditated. So he would have to know when she was showering or changing. And then he would have to know when she was showering or changing. And then he would sneak outside, go around the back, and film her through her window.
Starting point is 00:23:53 There was no denying the truth. This was evidence in a legal document. It proved that the only reason for ever filming Avea was to catch her without clothes on. That's when it snapped and I was like, this is it. I told Jason to quit calling me. And he quit telling me he loved me.
Starting point is 00:24:15 And then I didn't want to see him anymore. There was this other part of you that just got woken up that you haven't really put a voice to. You haven't completely integrated the full picture yet with. And I assume after that, you got angry. Yeah. So there must have been a registering of the whole truth when your psyche was really able to kind of allow you
Starting point is 00:24:36 to understand the gravity of his behavior. Yeah. Once Ashley crossed the bridge and saw Jason clearly, she accepted that his crimes were what they looked like, depraved, personal, and involved her beloved daughter. She would divorce him. Her only focus was healing and justice for Aveya. Hi, my name is Cooper and I'm a mini golden doodle from Crocodoodles.
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Starting point is 00:28:49 I mean, other family members, so I've read all of that. Is anyone going to be addressing the court directly, Mr. Southerner, do you know? Yes, I'm, I think, definitely. Okay, are they present in the court, or are they all living? Yes, I'm, I'm sorry. This was not a trial. It was a sentencing hearing.
Starting point is 00:29:04 Jason had cut a plea deal with the District Attorney's Office and was pleading guilty to a reduced charge of one count of sexual exploitation of a minor in two counts of voyeurism. The matter of guilt was settled. This hearing was about justice. Ashley watched nervously from the gallery. A vea sapisider. Prosecutor Sam Sutton, the third prosecutor assigned to the case, addressed the judge. From the state's perspective, this is a very concerned and depressing behavior. Certainly, you're on a scene on the other cases involving sexual exploitation of a minor child and sexual abuse material cases, and usually in
Starting point is 00:29:45 those cases we ask for some midpoint of jail time, or in 20 days, or maybe some things like that. In other words, in most of these cases, they ask for four to six months of jail time. That's pretty standard for someone engaging in this crime. There's a bunch of one count of their reports from the others that charge and a fair amount of child sexual abuse and serials counting and possession. Couple that with the behavior to work that's stepped on or and from the state's perspective that's about supposed to cancel on and piece of
Starting point is 00:30:15 gets without actually being canceled. Even though they are plastic wearers, from the state's perspective they are taking to develop a pattern of behavior that is greater than the sum of the chart that they have. And for that reason, I very strongly was asking for a maximum jail term here, and I guess it's going to be a big time now for a family to take this. Jason, he argued, should receive the maximum, a full year because of what he had done to Avea. You're about to hear from Avea for the first time. She decided to address the court at Jason sentencing hearing. Both Ashley and Aveda gave us consent to use her voice at her name.
Starting point is 00:30:52 Her court-sponsored therapist also supported her decision to participate. So just tell me your names and what you want me to know. My name is Ashley Linton. I am Jason's 2vx wife and this is my daughter. This is a v-and she's asked to be here and would like to address the work. I do want you to pay attention to what she's wearing today. She's didn't wear a sweatshirt and so's what pants to be disrespectful, but rather because she didn't feel like she was safe. Riding, you know. I don't want him looking at me. I don't want him seeing me.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I don't want him to think. He completely ruined my family and their lives. He ruined me. I'm mentally not the same. Dr. The Soccer. Doing that in school. Not to mention. Not not to tell you. I have extreme anxiety, you know. Extreme anxiety. Where I am enjoying and I just somehow see him in his car. I call my mom because he's in the same area. He drives in the same world as me every single day.
Starting point is 00:32:08 Every question I have Pete has been bad. I can't sit in class because my anxiety is so bad. So all I'm asking from you today is to give him. I Would like to be in prison. I never wanted to look at another child. And the way before he even in before I even knew because he was rude to me. He was, he needed me, treated me so poorly. Me and my mother, say things to me like I'm a terrible kid and take my phone and go through it and go through my privacy like my room. It was unfair and it was rude and I don't want any other child ever to go through that. Ever. I'm asking for you to send him to prison.
Starting point is 00:32:59 Of Bayez pleaded the court was devastating. All of the stress, sadness, and anger over what he had done poured out of her. Even Judge Metler seemed moved. I'm sorry that's happening. I wish I could make it better. I can't. But I mean, a very human particular should feel really prior to yourself.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I think it's a very brave thing to report these kinds of things, to stay committed to the criminal justice system process, to show up in court and to speak to the judge. You're very brave. Thank you. Thank you. Jason's public defender made an impassioned plea for his freedom. I would argue, Judge, first and foremost, that Mr. Litten is absolutely, objectively sorrowful,
Starting point is 00:33:56 remorseful for his conduct. I think he's demonstrated that by taking full accountability, full acceptance of responsibility for his misconduct. Judge, I understand the big victims, I mean, for lack of a better words, crushing sorrow, crushing anger about this misconduct, that Mr. Linton engaged in. My client fully understands where they are coming from and why they would never want to see him again ever in society. He was suffering from a severe depression. Yes, he did
Starting point is 00:34:39 receive atherol and some prosak and perhaps that wasn't the best indicated medication for his condition. He has engaged in community-based and community-supported counseling groups to help address that. He has a long way to go with regard to the specialized cyclosexual treatment. But Dr. Rairi and the APMPP are right to reach the same conclusion that he is appropriate and suitable for community-based treatment. The takeaway is that the psychologist who had evaluated Jason, the agency that writes the recommended treatment plan, advised court-ordered intensive treatment for Jason but not in carceration. After his public defender spoke, Jason addressed the judge. I'm so sorry for the pain in her. I've caused my family.
Starting point is 00:35:33 My day goes by, I don't think about the hurt I've caused them. My heart, I'm excrucing her for something I can say or do to fix this. What does he say sorry to? For destroying her safe place in her life. I fell her as a father. And I've used her love and trust she had me. What I did to her was despicable and shameful.
Starting point is 00:36:00 I want to say sorry to Ashley for the pain and suffering I've caused her. I flipped her whole world around the destroyer of the family in the process. I felt her as a husband. And taken away the trust she had on others. I also want to apologize to the kids and the pictures I looked at. I know that they have suffered a huge amount of abuse and pain. They have lived a life of fear and suffering. And I played a part in that with my actions.
Starting point is 00:36:34 To all of you, I'm so sorry. I've heard so many friends and family with my actions. This whole situation is my fault and my fault along. My recovery is also very important to me. This whole situation is my fault and my fault along. My recovery is also very important to me. I live forward to the programs and all other help I will be fortunate to have. I want to ensure that nothing like this ever happens again. Jason also touted the support groups he had joined and his new dedication to the church.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Judge Metler took everything into consideration and rendered her decision. Okay, thank you everyone for your input. The thing about this for a while is the tough one. And that court makes decisions concerning sensing. The court really is balancing ways in which the victim can be made whole, which frankly is pretty unusual when a victim can truly be made whole. Rehabilitation and divinity is an important factor and then of course a passion. Would Aveya and Ashley get justice? Would Jason be put behind bars?
Starting point is 00:37:39 That's next time on Betrayal. For the crime of sexual exploitation of mine or, second be felony. I also visit Vaya and Ashley at home to find out what has happened since that day. I'd be laying in bed some nights and I'd just sit there thinking like, something's working, something's creeping, you get that feeling. And later on this season of betrayal, I saw FBI on their rest and he's like, Mandy, I'm not going to sugarcoat anything. We'll meet more women confronted with shocking revelations about the men they married.
Starting point is 00:38:08 My dad was like, let's think about this because if he goes to jail, you're gonna lose all of your benefits. Like I give a fuck. If you would like to reach out to the betrayal team, email us at patrialpod.comrilePod at gmail.com. That's Petrile.cod at gmail.com. To report a case of child sexual exploitation, call the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children's Cyber Tip Line at 1-800-The Lost.
Starting point is 00:38:38 If you or someone you know is worried about their sexual thoughts and feelings towards children. Reach out to StopItNow.org. In the United Kingdom, go to StopItNow.org.uk. These organizations can help. Or grateful for your support. One way to show support is by subscribing to our show on Apple Podcasts. Don't forget to rate and review betrayal. Five star reviews go a long way. A big thank you to all of our listeners. A trail is a production of Glass Podcasts, a division of Glass Entertainment Group and partnership with IHAR Podcasts. The show was executive produced by Nancy Glass
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