Better Offline - Monologue: AI Isn't Getting A Bailout
Episode Date: December 4, 2025In this week's Better Offline monologue, Ed Zitron breaks down how economically irrelevant AI is, and how no bailout is coming to save the Large Language Model era. Want to support me? Get $10 off a y...ear’s subscription to my premium newsletter: https://edzitronswheresyouredatghostio.outpost.pub/public/promo-subscription/w08jbm4jwg It would mean a lot! YOU CAN NOW BUY BETTER OFFLINE MERCH! Go to https://cottonbureau.com/people/better-offline and use code FREE99 for free shipping on orders of $99 or more. --- LINKS: https://www.tinyurl.com/betterofflinelinks Newsletter: https://www.wheresyoured.at/ Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/BetterOffline/ Discord: chat.wheresyoured.at Ed's Socials: https://twitter.com/edzitron https://www.instagram.com/edzitron https://bsky.app/profile/edzitron.com https://www.threads.net/@edzitron Email Me: ez@betteroffline.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Hello and welcome to this week's Better Offline monologue.
I'm your host at Zittron.
A lot of people have emailed, messaged, and plucked
that the natural end of the AI bubble is some kind of government bailout, something resembling
the TARP program, the bailed out financial institutions, over leveraged during the great financial
crisis, and I want to be clear about something. This is different, and a bailout is very, very,
very unlikely. As a reminder, TARP stood for a troubled asset relief program. It existed, unsurprisingly,
to buy the distressed assets that banks had invested in during the great financial crisis.
Primarily the ridiculous bets made on the housing market made up of people who had got mortgages they could
not pay for. Now, these bailouts existed to stabilize banks that were going out of business, along
with consumers' money being set on fire if they did so, as well as auto manufacturers like GM
and Chrysler that the contagion had spread to. And while I'm not going to go into massive amounts of
detail, I haven't got all day, I can make it pretty simple. These bailouts existed to stabilize
systemically necessary companies that, had they died, would have tanked the US economy and markets
at the same time, and also lost people's money. Unlike the great financial crisis, very few of
the major players in AI are either systemically necessary or in danger of dying as the result of the
AI bubble bursting. Furthermore, there really isn't anything to bailout. So let's start with
Nvidia, the largest company on the stock market. While GPU sales make up upwards of 88% of its
revenue, Nvidia will not die if the AI bubble bursts, though it will see a massive contraction as a
result of its biggest business line collapsing. It's also important to know that Nvidia's massive
stock price is a direct result of its incredible growth.
It isn't enough for Nvidia to continue selling lots of GPUs.
It must continue to increase revenues by at least 60% year over year every single quarter,
which means that for Nvidia to continue being the most beloved boy in stock in the
history of the stock market, it needs to make $91 billion in revenue in a year's time,
and that's just in one quarter by the way.
This isn't something a bailout can fix,
even in the most crony capitalist fantasy you can think of.
A bailout would have to continually sink 10,000,
tens of billions of dollars directly into Nvidia, buying GPUs and increasing amounts every three
months in perpetuity to continue its valuation. And while some of you may say,
Trump will do them, you'd living in a boring, doomerous fantasy based on nothing, and I'm sick
of hearing about it. Good Lord. Listen to me. TARP was a $700 billion program that only ended up
investing around $443.5 billion or so. Or put another way, less than the $500 billion,
of orders that Nvidia's CEO Jensen Huang claims are on Nvidia's books through the end of
2026. Are we meant to do this forever? Is that the plan? Are you saying that Trump is just going to go,
we're going to buy GPs or everyone, we're going to buy them every year, every year we'll buy so many
the most we've ever. No, it's not going to happen. Though I guess he has kind of done that with the
Department of Energy. You've probably heard of this deal, by the way, it's 100,000 GPUs. That
isn't going to do shit. Jensen Huang needs all your money and he needs it now every quarter forever,
Okay, okay, it's not going to happen.
Now, okay, another annoying talking point you've probably heard is that open AI is somehow too big to fail, when in fact it's too small to pull apart into enough parts to eat.
Open AI has promised $1.4 trillion in compute deals, convincing Oracle and others to build massive data centers in its honor.
Yet the reality is that this company isn't even going to hit its $13 billion in projected revenue this year.
and will burn billions of dollars in inference alone and doesn't really have a path to profitability.
Too big to fail means that something may kill our economy or markets if it dies and as loud and
annoying as clammy Sam Altman might be, OpenAI's death wouldn't kill either of those.
Let's break it down.
Open AI dying would be symbolically lethal to the large language model era and create an immediate
and permanent chill in AI investments. Don't get me wrong.
Its death would also likely be an existential threat to Crusoe, the company building its data
Center in Abilene, Texas for Oracle. I spoke to someone on the ground there and they say if the
money runs out, everyone just stops and goes home. That'll be fine. I don't know the extent of
Crucese revenues, however, but I do know that Oracle is on the hook for a billion dollars a year
for Abilene for 15 goddamn years. And Oracle has also taken on massive amounts of debt to build
Abilene and other data centers in Shackleford, Texas and I think somewhere in Wisconsin, it's a New Mexico
one now. And started this with an $18 billion bond sale and in the works 38 billion.
dollar debt package to build data centers for open AI. While Oracle does run the risk of default
and credit default swaps, which is people betting again, well, betting that they might default on
their obligations, that's going up. The risk is there, but there's still a real company that makes
real things. Microsoft owns open AI's IP and research, which would mean that Microsoft
would pretty much absorb those 800 million weekly active users directly into co-pilot. And that's if it
even chose to retain them and just shut down chat, GPT. That's,
directed it to a very flimsy version of co-pilot and didn't let people do half the shit they
do with it.
Bailing out OpenAI would not do anything, in part because OpenAI burns billions of dollars
and doesn't really do much in the large economy itself.
It's revenues, which I estimate to be at most $4.5 billion through the end of September.
By the way, if you're listening to this and you think that my revenue numbers for Open AI
and my inference numbers were delayed somehow, it's a cruel accounting.
Stop fucking with me. I know what I'm doing. Anyway, those revenues are inconsequential,
and the $8.67 billion it spent on inference in that period is, while a large chunk of
Vizier revenue from Microsoft, only really accounting for 3.88% or so of the $223 billion
Microsoft has made in that period. Losing open AI would hurt, but hardly threaten the health
of anyone in Redmond. The same goes for Anthropic or any other generative AI company.
These companies aren't really spending that much, nor are they few.
fueling much of any actual real economic activity. There's only around $60 billion of actual AI
revenue in 2025 in a tech industry where Amazon made $180 billion and Google $102 billion
in their last quarters. The disappearance of LLM's writ large would have a minuscule effect on
actual real dollars entering the economy, other than investments in data centers, which is where
I think there's, if any, some kind of bailout. As I've mentioned recently,
recently, there's been about $50 billion or more even every quarter for the last three quarters
going into building data centers. And I think that many of these projects end up defaulting.
There's a chance, a chance, that these are somehow bailed out. If and only if they provide an actual
existential risk to a major asset firm, a Blackstone, or an Ares or what have you. I don't know
if Aries is in them and just naming them at this point. Nevertheless, there is one, the one company I could
see if any bailout happens.
really hesitant to say I think there's any chance. Oracle, I think, is the one chance.
Oracle is currently massively leveraged and going into debt to the point it's eating into its free
cash flow, and it's a close ally of the Trump administration. I could see them getting a lifeline to
escape these ridiculous loans. And while you may say there's some sort of grand plan where the
administration will agree to pay these companies to keep them alive, I don't see it happening,
as doing so won't support the economy, the markets, or really do anything other than
prolong the inevitable. It's not going to happen. And I don't know, I'm going to, I want to phrase this
in a nice way because I don't want it seemed like an attack. Every time you say something like this,
you're doing marketing for the AI industry. Dumorism is marketing at this point with AI. I'm so
scared of what they'll, they'll create. They're going to get bail out. Open AI is too big to fail.
All these are extrapolations of your fear. I get it. They're also marketing. You are helping them,
You are helping them market their services
by making them seem systematically relevant when they're not
by making them seem like they're innovative when they're not
honestly I need you to just live in reality
and look at what's actually happening
which is sweet fuck all in many cases
every one of these wanky studies you hear come out
so on 10% of jobs can already be automated by AI
CNBC should be fucking ashamed of themselves
for running a story about it
it's a PhD
congrats to the better offline Reddit user
who saw this, it's a PhD paper. And also, it's referring to random skills rather than jobs.
And skills and jobs are two different fucking things. I'm so goddamn tired of this era. Good Lord.
But nevertheless, the next two weeks are going to be real interesting. I'm working on a three or four
part about my worries around Nvidia. And I'm going to tell you all about Nvidia and how not similar
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