BFFs with Dave Portnoy, Josh Richards, and Brianna Chickenfry - ANDREW TATE AND DAVE PORTNOY GO TOE TO TOE — BFFs EP. 88

Episode Date: July 14, 2022

We kick off the show with headlines with Monty Lopez's (Addison Rae's dad) cheating scandal and the fallout since, Doja Cat going after Stranger Thing's Noah Schnapp over posting her DM's asking about co-star Joseph Quinn, Zach Wilson's throwing bombs and banging moms, Bryce Hall saying he will fight Tayler Holder and who his new Tik Tok crush is, Addison Rae responding to Josh saying Charli D'Amelio would beat her in a cage match, Corinna Kopf's OnlyFans earnings being leaked by David Dobrik, trying to figure out what is going on with Amanda Diaz and Kio Cyr, and finish with Charli and Landon Barker updates. We then get into BFFs corner where Pete Davidson denied Olivia O'Briens claims on our last show, Mia posting a comment that may or may not have been about Josh, Josh's disaster of a performance on Wildin' Out, and end with why Josh followed Huddy on his spam page. We finish with our interview with Andrew Tate, and it is... something. We talk everything from his early days as a kickboxer, how he made his money, what his net worth actually is, and he gets into it with the BFFs over why is seen as sexist (and chaos ensues). Support our sponsors! Gametime: Download the Gametime app at https://barstool.link/GametimeApp and redeem code BFF for $20 off your first purchase (terms apply). Would: Shop Would at https://barstool.link/wouldBSS or at your local CVS.You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/bffspod

Hey BFF listeners, you can find us every Wednesday on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or YouTube. Prime members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. What's up boys and girls, welcome to the BFF's YouTube channel. Make sure you guys tap the bell, subscribe, like the video, and comment down below. BFF's new episode, we have guest Andrew Tate coming on later. Let's get right into the headlines. Monty Lopez cheating scandal. Oh, this is my.

So as a raised dad, that's Monty. That's Monty Lopez. Yeah. As his dad scandal hit the fan, one of the seemingly many women asked his dad, which seems to claim the two were in a relationship for the past five months is trying to gain some clout from the situation. As his mom, Sherry Nicole, posted on her story that protecting her children is her first priority sherry has also updated her bio to single mom i don't know it just feels icky talking about this it's just a shit it's just a shitty situation like this girl's definitely just clout chasing this shit like a hundred percent which kind of sucks because you know addison and

her mom are going through it yeah i just feel just feel bad for Sherry. Before this, were they already officially split? I saw some things that said they had maybe been broken up for like a year. So it's a tough thing. Seriously, we all know Addison, so we'll just kind of skip with that. Doja Cat beats with Stranger Things cast. Doja Cat is beefing Noah Schaap from stranger things after the 17 year old posted her dm asking noah to tell his co-star joseph quinn to hit her up noah posted the screenshot and now delete tiktok as part of a tiktok trend around joseph quinn doja cat went on tiktok live said that she knows no as

a kid and when you're a kid you're gonna mess up but calls action socially unaware borderline snake shit uh okay team no 100 on this one yeah there's nothing wrong with what he did and she sent it unsolicited to him right yeah yeah she just dm'd him was like yo give me your boy's app yeah so what you're if someone unsolicited sent you something there's no expectation of privacy yeah it's not like you're either like best friends it's just a random DM it's not like it was on like iMessage either it's not even like a text message chain this is an Instagram DM why couldn't you have just

Instagrammed the coke star of no one for the Instagram just go and like go DM the right guy and you guys are all aren't aren't Bree and yeah we're beefing with Millie millie bobby brown i mean i understand beefing with change of things cast oh i thought you guys were big doja cat

people i love doja cat yeah she's hilarious i think she's really but there's no way you can agree with her here right i mean is she does she hate noah now and like is she shitting on him i mean it's what is the tech talk live yeah let's watch the live let's see what she says i don't know if it was just how stuff was edited. Mistakes. Like, you're supposed to so that you know... I didn't know that. You're supposed to do stuff like that

so that you know not to do it in the future. Like, I did my share of fuck-ups so that I don't fuck up again. But the fact that this person, that Noah did that, like, went and posted a private conversation between me and him. All right, but. Is so unbelievably, like, socially unaware and whack. And, like, you know what I mean?

Like, that's, like, borderline snake shit. Like, that's, like, that's, like, you know what I mean? Like, that's like borderline snake shit. Like, that's like, that's like weasel shit. And like, I'm not saying that encapsulates his entire. I'm not supposed to take this video seriously with mustache. I know. Okay. All right. So I.

I can see where she's coming from. We're saying that's socially unaware of like posting. I don't think it is. Were they talking? Like, were they already DMing back and forth? Then I could be like, what the fuck? But if you just go, she almost argues against herself because it's like she's like, he's 17 or young. It's like, well, what'd you expect?

Like, you're a famous person DMing a 17 year old. There's DMs before. So then that changes it a little bit. If you think you're having like person dming a 17 there's dms before so then that that changes it a little bit if you think you're having like a conversation with the guy yeah because there's a heart above it so that means there's dms before oh i didn't see that i didn't see that i guess maybe if they're like homies homies but if that's like a first time slide into someone's dms to say like yo give me your friends that i feel like that also kind of sucks. Yeah.

I mean, he's young. It's like exactly. He's probably like, oh, yo, boys, doja catches DM me. And then they all open it up and it's like, yo, what's your friend's hat? Yeah, right. That's like being on Hinge and saying, what's your friend's name? Yeah, exactly. I get those.

I get like a million of those for you, Josh. Like, hey, have Josh get back to me. It's like, what? Oh, I've had people DM me, though, before, being like, yo, tell Dave to check his DM. But I don't because I just assume you probably don't. It's like, what? Crazy. This story is going crazy viral right now.

Zach Wilson's ex-girlfriend, Zach Wilson, is the QB of the Jets, BYU. His ex-girlfriend is now dating his best friend, his former best friend. And people were kind of so the new boyfriend was Zach Wilson's ex-girlfriend, posted a picture together. Somebody under the comments goes, homie, Huppert, because the girl went from Zach to his best friend, also in the NFL. And then the girlfriend responded. He was sleeping with his mom's best friend.

That's the real homie hopper and this just exploded like oh yeah you can't i think zach wilson has been trending for like 72 straight hours yeah it's going crazy everyone jokes he played byu their nicknames the cougars so he's like cougar for life he has all the stuff be a dog. They're Mormons, which adds to the element of intrigue to this whole thing. Because you've got to think maybe they're soaking. Yeah, they could be soaking. Yep. Maybe the mom and him are getting into some soaking action.

Soaking in a mama? I think this is more of like the mom's best friend's kind of a weirdo. We don't know who it is, by the way. As far as I know, that has not been revealed. Yeah, no. Not that I've seen. I think that's just weirder on the mom's friend part i'm gonna disagree with andrew tate who we have on later we did the interview i think the only real asshole here is the new boyfriend like i just don't get how you go from best friends to dating your best friend's girlfriend. That, to me, is a no-no. Yeah, or the girlfriend for just outing it on social media for absolutely no reason. Oh, I have no problem with her.

Oh, you don't? You don't think so? Because people are like, you're a homie hopper, you're jumping. She's like, wait a minute. He was cheating on me. Yeah, I would fully say that. Was he cheating or did he just start dogging the mom after? No, he said that's why they broke.

She said that's why they broke up. Okay, that changes things. Yeah. It'll be interesting this season in the NFL. Our guy Jack Mack, who works for us, I guess Zach Wilson DM'd him before this thing really broke and asked him to delete it. Jack Mack is making himself seem like Gandhi

out here in the streets with how he's reacting to having to delete it. He's literally acting like it's the greatest betrayal of all time. It'll be a full football season of Zach Wilson seeing these jokes. And to be honest, it does show that a lot of people are giving him, like, dapping him up. It's like, way to go, man. Like, a lot of, you know, American Pie and Stifler's mom jokes and all that. Okay.

Josh's tea talk caused a stir. Bryce wants to fight Taylor Holder. It would be a huge fight. I don't know if it will ever happen, but I'd love to put that on Rough and Rowdy. Yeah, you've been saying that. That was talked about in our meeting because I don't know if this is allowed to be public, but I'll ask him. But Devlin has been talking to, like, Taylor Holder's camp, and they said they would fight Bryce but don't know if this is allowed to be public, but I'll ask him. Devlin has been talking to Taylor Holder's camp

and they said they would fight Bryce, but I don't think Bryce would ever do it. But then Bryce just said that he will. Bryce is very down to getting the ring. Yeah. I think they both would do it. Bryce would definitely do it. Oh, Bryce would have done it tomorrow he'll do it.

We'll keep people posted. We will make real offers and if they both say yes If one says no we'll say who said no Don't you want to fight in Rough and Rowdy O'Malley? I do I wish I could have been the first girl O'Malley wants to go in Rough and Rowdy too But in the fall maybe?

Yeah O'Malley I saw your video I want to go to Montauk You never hit me up to come to Montauk Dave I would never ask to go to Mod Talk. I want to go to Mod Talk. You never hit me up to come to Mod Talk. Dave, I would never ask to come to Mod Talk with you. Did you end up coming to Mod Talk? No, I went to the Jersey Shore house.

The bar still open. Yep. Bryce reveals he's sliding into New Girl's DMs. TikTok-er Sadie McKenna. Okay. Oh, we revealed that? That's our reveal? Yeah. Well, yeah. It was never truly revealed it was like shown on my youtube video like he kind of like hand the camera like

this and flipped it like in a millisecond but i don't think anyone's figured it out yet so how did we figure it out on accident what yeah i was like i was on the bff explore page and it's only like drama stuff on there because that's all this podcast is about. And I was like, why is there a girl's thirst trap on there? It said, liked by Bryce Hall. And I looked at the profile, and I was like, oh, this is the same profile that Bryce flashed on T-Talk. Damn. Breaking news, then, I guess.

Okay, okay. Atta boy. Addison responds, Josh, to boxing comments. I guess we had a hypothetical who would win charlie d'amelio versus addison no it was answer the internet it was on kfc it was gotcha okay so let's see it let's see both what two tiktokers would you like to see in a cage match like you know like let's have a battle of like who's the queen of tiktok addison or and charlie d'amelio that'd be nuts yeah yeah yeah yeah It's like hell in the cell.

I've seen a fight video of Charli D'Amelio before when she was in like private school or whatnot and she was dragging that girl by her hair. It was pretty nuts. It was pretty nuts. So I would say, I would say, but I feel like Addison is like, I'm gonna go Charli. Yeah, feisty, feisty. Hoops are out.

What is this fight video? I'd love to see to see i saw that fight video too that was a while ago it was like all of her tiktok yeah yeah but she was like she was like dragging them by the hair right yeah like in front of the school bus crazy yeah really yeah all right what uh addison responded i guess yeah what did she say i didn't even see this guess yeah what did you say i didn't even see this i'm not good josh i didn't think that charlie demelia would destroy what do you say to that i don't what do i think about it yeah i don't think about it do you have any thoughts i think she was just going for a hug they also yeah like that wasn't exactly how you said it like there was a lot of fan edits about

it because they're like josh think about addison addison's not thinking about josh at all damn karina kampf david dobrik posted a video deal uh detailing her only fans she makes a million dollars a month that is bananas but not surprising at all not surprising at all is she the number one only fans girl god no i think top 10 i mean bad baby or whatever like she showed her post like she posted how much money she made and it was like 50 million or something like that in a year josh have you ever bought her only fans corinna's yeah? Yeah. Or... No. No? It's... I think our good friend Balls has. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure, yeah. I mean, he's bought everyone's.

It's a real deal OnlyFans, so, I mean, a million bucks. Her biggest month on there is 2.3 million. I don't think I'd post that, honestly. It just makes people want to steal from you. I honestly think it makes it less likely to want to sign up, but, yeah, I'm surprised they did that. I feel like people want to steal from you. Honestly, I think it makes it less likely to want to sign up. But, yeah, I'm surprised they did that.

I feel like people try to keep that a secret. There is an element, like, once you think someone's rich, you maybe don't. It's like, oh, they're too corporate. I don't know. Interesting. I am surprised he posted that. Yeah. Amanda Diaz, former guest of BFF, defends posts with friend on TikTok.

Fans were quick to comment on amanda's post with another man's hand feeding amanda amanda asked fans to stop asking what happened to kio um respectfully please so did kio is my best friend literally nothing has happened i'm just so tired of the invest invasive questions regarding my life it gets overwhelming. All right, let's see this TikTok. Hey, do you want a bite? No. Bad. Bad. Bad, bad, bad? Bad. You like that, huh?

Nope. Bad. Bad. I don't know. Are they still together, Keo and Amanda? So they posted this other video that made it seem like something was going on, but no one really. That video, bad, bad, bad.

Bad. The guy, we don't know who the guy is though what if it's like her gay best friend that's a well i mean what what if what if it is fucking pigs can fly i listen i don't have any inside information i know this you don't on this either though i know this usually do if sylvana posted a tiktok of a guy with tattoo doing that i'd be like what the fuck is that and i wouldn't to be honest i wouldn't care if it was her gay friend or whatever i would not want that posted period it would make me look like an asshole okay fair enough look at us hey look at us look at us huh who would have thought not me i don't know what that

means well she also called him like just kio's my best friend so that i think that's good right well that means they're probably not dating right kio's my best friend i think if she wanted to clear it up she'd be like kio's my boyfriend right i read that as keo's my best friend literally nothing has happened means that it's standard status quo they're still dating that's what i how i read the first time too i don't know best friend though literally nothing has happened though but if i'm looking at what happened and there could be a lot more back and forth i see username nine it's just crazy to be over putting a username nine zero nine zero nine zero zero nine zero what happened with kio she asked respectfully please stop asking whose man is that it's my friend lol just to be like i'm still dating kio

seems like a pretty simple way to stop it and that tiktok that we played the caption was it's been a roller coaster of a month of her and Keo. So maybe they're on and off. Yeah, maybe they're just going through it a little bit. Am I the only one that thinks it's a really bad video, if you're still dating somebody? To post the handheld with food?

Yeah, well, that's why I'm saying maybe they're on and off. The airplane, if you're dating, would anybody here, if they had a boyfriend boyfriend girlfriend that they're serious with be happy if that yeah no if my boyfriend posted out with a girl i'd be yeah very mad yeah i probably wouldn't be stoked yeah it also is like a sexy hand with tattoos too yeah right i'd be like doing like the fugitive like i'd have that tattoo on a wall be like we need to who has this fucking tattoo?

Yeah, you can find the hand. Yeah, Charlie DiMeo and Landon Barker updates. Charlie DiMeo and DiMeo, Charlie DiMeo and the DiMeo. One more try. Charlie DiMeo and the DiMellos are officially together, but haven't been very public. That seems like oxymoron. Landon Post deleted a picture of him.

Charlie, that's child play right there. It was like deleted in milliseconds too. Yeah, no, that's a little let's post together and then delete it. That's the Griffin Johnson if you delete people talk about it more. Yeah. Ah ha ha. Landon also attended Michael Rubin's July 4th white party, which I did not attend, with the DeMillo family.

Oh, Double Birds, right? Double Birds. Yeah, I gave him Double Birds. I heard that that made its way back to Michael Rubin. I like Michael Rubin, but that party's dead for me. Oh, absolutely. I'm going to go next year. Do you think he was an extra plus one because they started dating days before that party,

so he couldn't have been on the invite? No, I think. He's famous, though. Yeah, I guess. party so he couldn't have been on the invite no i think he's famous though yeah he's famous and i do think like if you're in josh's realm like brie you probably would have clout because he does have young daughters who are very into like the tiktok world yeah like they're probably not so into like 45 year old guy like world so i i like i no one cares if i'm there like landon barker is probably like people care if they're there some people may care if i'm there but not them um i think

they look great together i just want to say that it's a cute couple i know dave's not team landon though he's on the left there yeah yeah i mean are they is it just the shading or do they have blue hair? It's the shading. It's just the shading. I mean, Noah's so much better looking than he is, so it's tough. I think Landon would fit in that photo. I like the picture that he posted and deleted, though. They look cute.

Hype House drama is brewing. Tabitha Swatosh was one of the main members of the hype house recently departed the hype house things seem to be bad terms Tabitha followed us late last night she seems to have a story to tell tell us yes that DMs to us Tabitha Swatosh

so was that me did she did you respond after that yeah I did and she hasn't responded yet but I'm interested what people because it was unfollowing and then no one's saying anything about it and she followed us like midnight last night i dm'd i was like is this because you got something to say and she's like yeah you dm'd her at midnight i responded to it well she followed us at midnight so i dm'd at midnight yeah i'm working all hours of the clock josh doesn't stop off midnight for you isn't midnight for her right la yeah it's nine o'clock yeah it's fine yeah uh from our episode two weeks ago because he took last week off pete davidson denies dating

olivia o'brien i gotta be honest i think olivia got like drag cut up the wrong way i don't really she never made it sound like they were dating seriously she's like we were talking and then he stopped talking when uh pete davidson met this other girl what she said was 100 the truth so i don't know what the denial from pete davidson was like that you guys weren't like married i don't i didn't really get that part of it he may have been asked the question in a strange way be like like, no, I never dated her. They were definitely talking 100%. Yeah, she wouldn't have freaked out like that.

Like her eyes, they definitely were. Yeah, but it was good for us. It made news everywhere. Yeah, go BFFs. BFF win. Josh on Wildin Out. You missed the second part of that one. I missed the second part, guys.

Mia also commented on... Who's Mia? Josh's old fling. Also commented on one of Olivia's TikTok about a boy she knows. Josh's ex-fling. Oh, shit. Mia also commented on one of Olivia's TikTok about a boy she knows. Josh's ex-fling. Oh, shit. That TikTok is... Mia also commented on one of Olivia's TikTok

about a boy she knows, Josh's ex-fling, that would act like the ex-Olivia talked about on the podcast. Yeah, guys, this is not about me. There's no way this is about me.

Because I never told Mia I loved her. You seem pretty into her on this show. It's the only girl you ever like. I'm into it, girl. Yeah. Oh, yeah, but

I fucking loved her well maybe she's just saying i know a guy that would like do the same type of thing his name is josh richards maybe it has nothing to do with josh at all i don't think it has to do with me at all maybe not not jr this time like we're not on bad terms i think you guys try to make us on bad terms yeah that's it's a fun part well that that goes to austin i guess because i didn't even know who mia was at first yeah he skipped the second part that would um it doesn't matter who that's about that's going on this sheet just yeah correct uh joshua wiling out let's see the clip oh this is gonna be where i get like roasted right my shoes or some shit i didn't see this yet coming from the bff podcast on barstool y'all

make some noise for musician actor and viral sensation josh i love how they said musician still softish five minutes later Oprah Winfrey, that's my new girlfriend. Yeah, all right. In my closet, I got about 30 pairs. Look at your shoes. You need to walk around with a Q-tip for them dirty airs. You said you hate him so much. I don't know why he showed up. And his lace is like Popeye's biscuits because he got them dirty heirs. Hold on, Neiman. You said you hate him so much. I don't know why he showed up. And his lace is like Popeye's

biscuits because he got them choked up. Hey, boy, you know you did as wrong for being up here with them kicks on. The way them shoes look, you must stop your car like a Flintstone. Before you said that, I was going to say something that was true. We're supposed to give to the homeless. Looks like they give to you.

Damn, Josh. Josh, why would you go with dirty-ass Air Force Ones on? I always be wearing dirty-ass Air Force Ones. It's kind of my thing. That's like an easy layup for them, though. Yeah, but I mean, I'm going to go spend $100 on a brand new pair of shoes. Josh, it's not like you're broke, buddy.

That show seems like you're out of your depth in that show. You couldn't's not like you're broke, buddy. That show seems like you're out of your depth in that show. You couldn't pay me enough to go on that show. I would never in a million years. It was still like it was fun as fuck. I mean, those are all the times I messed up. But I had a couple good ones in there. So off the top of your head?

Yeah, of course. I mean, there's definitely like you're definitely like brainstorming shit while you're like sitting down for 20 minutes before the show starts but it's like all kind of off the top of the dome i'm not like a rapper so no well that's why you're right that's what i'm saying but it was fun it was fun and i watched it like growing up so it was like it was kind of just one of those things i was like i liked watching the show when i was younger shout out ron are like probably a lot of people know it but a lot of people don't one of our guys roan it's like he's kind of like the eight mile guy like he he's won like world rap championships

as a white guy yeah battle rapper yeah that's an annual tradition every year they try to hire him for wild and out and every year he says no i didn't know that uh josh follow and i'm followed huddy what's that all about why yeah yeah i actually didn't even know i had followed him i guess like on my schwalmeister account i was probably just like scrolling through like you know how there's a little plus button on people's profiles or whatever like on the side i think i probably just accidentally followed huddy and then i didn't even realize i did until actually bfs posted it and i saw like the only person i was following was chase and i was like oh that's kind of weird yeah Yeah, we got a bunch of DMs about it being like, is he on the pod? It's like, what's happening? I was like, what are you guys

talking about? It's like, he's the only person Josh follows. I would love to get him on the pod. That does happen. I'd love to get him on too. I always see that. People would be like, Dave's following me. It's like, oh, I feel bad. I unfollow, but it's like, I have no idea how that happened. I always feel like a dick. Yeah, it sucks. BFFs has been gypped after ABC Hulu started their own game show

that's essentially just Boomer Zoomer. Whatever. Who cares? I don't care about that. I think that's it. I think that we're going into the interview now. That was the last one. Nobody cares about the Boomer.

It's time for Andrew Tate. We haven't done Boomer Zoomer in a while. Yeah, Andrew Tate, wild interview. So that is BFFffs game time is a ticketing app that makes it easier than ever score last minute tick deals to sports concert shows they guarantee the lowest price 2022 massive concert year with so many tours going on game times reporting they're seeing the biggest last minute deals ever artists like halsey as low as nine bucks machine gun kelly eight bucks backst Boys, I'm in there, $20. Naturally the most expensive.

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room we went around the horn so josh is the one who's like yep we gotta get this guy on the show gonna be a huge huge episode up top brie and o'malley were like we researched them yesterday and everybody's auzz watched all your clips and I'm just a little bit confused so this is we got people coming at it from three different angles so you do a million different things reading the prep sheet kickboxer

Mensa you run and only fans like managing girls right I do yeah you're right I do a million different things it's eclectic. I understand that if you look from the outside and it's the first time trying to understand how it all works, I get it.

I get it. It's amazing. That's probably a perfect segue. If you were introducing yourself, how would you describe yourself? What do you do? Who are you? Elevator pitch.

Elevator pitch? Yeah. Andrew Tate, four-time kickboxing world champion. And I've conquered the internet. I decided to conquer it and I took it and it's all mine. So that's basically what happened. That's pretty vague. In my headline on Instagram, I say, invented the internet.

You're saying you conquered it. If you invented it, I apologize because I didn't mean to take it from you. I'm sorry about that. No, that's fine. So what's your biggest platform? I mean, you just looked at TikTok. You haven't conquered there yet. Haven't I?

How many followers you got? I don't have an account. It's a fake account that I'm looking at? I don't have an account. I don't have an account. That's what I was telling you, Dave. That's what I was telling you. You have people make the accounts for you, essentially, right?

There are thousands and thousands of new videos of me on TikTok per day, and I don't have a TikTok account. Okay. So if you're sitting on a plane filming presumably yourself, how does that go from that phone to TikTok? I'll put it on Twitter or I'll put it on an Instagram story, and then people will grasp it, and they'll grab hold of it, and then they will digest it and edit it up and put their own spin on it and then it will end up out there in the metaverse gotcha

all right so that makes sense so you have the only social media then that you don't have is tiktok i don't have tiktok i don't have i don't know there's a bunch of new ones all the young kids are into i don't know i don't have a lot of things. I'm an Instagram guy. I have Instagram, and that's about it. Okay. So, Emery, Andrew, Tate III, Cobra Tate. That's it. At Cobra Tate. Correct. Okay. So, I mean, you haven't conquered it totally if we're at 2 million followers on Instagram.

You're right. You're right. My elevator pitch was a bit weak. I can do better. You want me to do it again? No, no. I was just curious. There's so many different things.

I'm trying to figure out what – or maybe they're all equal. What exactly – Josh, we've been doing this, what, a year and a half, two years, this podcast? I would say it's coming up on two years now. So I think on one hand, probably less, we can count guests where Josh is like, we've got to get this person. You're on that short list. Yeah. So then, Josh, why don't you give his elevator pitch and why we needed him on yeah why do you want him on so bad i mean because he says

things like he's like i fucking conquered the internet and i think that he like he really does have a grasp on tiktok and on a lot of these like young people coming up wanting to be hustlers and wanting to be entrepreneurs like he andrew you have the most cult following I've seen been made so quickly. Like, I haven't seen something like that done on TikTok ever before. That's true. I do have a I certainly have a cult following. When did you start the Internet? I've actually been around for a while, but I put together a particular strategy about six months ago because I decided to step up my overall exposure because of a new product I launched.

I run an online school that teaches people how to make money online. And, uh, I changed my approach towards social media and I ended up absolutely everywhere. And now people complain that they see me more than they see their own father and they can't get rid of me. So is that it is what you just said? Is that the pitch, the school, which I believe at Hustler university, is that what we're talking about? Correct. That is one of the things I run. Yes, I own a school, an online school that teaches how to make money online. All right.

So then you can stop me at any time. If you're like, nope, you've gone off the course. The concept is portray a lavish, rich, great lifestyle and get people to pay to get that same lifestyle? No, because that makes it sound like I am in some way faking. My lifestyle and the videos I portray are absolutely not really real completely. They existed before the school existed.

I don't amp anything up. Nothing is rented. Nothing is a lie. Nothing is a joke. I'm an ultra high net worth individual. And all of that existed pre-school, pre to the school. The school is just a after effect to it all.

It doesn't exist for the school the school is just uh after effect to it all it wasn't it doesn't exist for the school i'm certainly not uh renting cars to try and convince people to sign up to my programs no but i guess what i'm saying is and i may have connected dots that in your book shouldn't be connected it sounded like the reason you started portray is showing your lifestyle real is so people would sign up for the school because you're showing them what they want to learn how to do. No? Yeah, to a degree. I was always showing my lifestyle.

I was always doing it, but I changed the way in which I do it. That's the main reason why everyone, I have a lot of people who have known me for a very long time. I've been on the internet for a very long time, but now the way that the videos are getting out there and being by students of the school themselves that's why i've got much deeper penetration on social medias that's why people like where did this guy come from out of nowhere but i've been around for a while okay i got it it but how in these six months ago is when you started what do you've been on the internet but have you been as flashy on the internet? I've been flashy, bro. I've just been the whole time. All right. Yeah. The whole time. Like I've, I've always been the same guy. Like I, I, I think that in the world we live in today,

you need to establish credibility and whether people like it or not, wealth is a way to establish credibility. Like there's a lot of people who dislike me and that's fine, but it's hard to deny that I am fiscally successful at least and that gives you a degree of credibility which gives you some presence when you speak it's hard to ignore a guy who you know has hundreds of millions of dollars without what's it what what would you say to to be financially like i asked um i asked what is fucking money what's yeah i asked damon john that question what do you need in the bank to say it's fuck you money?

You need a lot more than money to say fuck you money. That's the whole thing about it, right? Because fuck you money in and of itself isn't a real concept. The whole idea of fuck you money doesn't work if you're still being paid by the Matrix. If you're still stuck inside of a contract and your words are controlled. There's a lot of people with a lot of money who can't say what they think. A lot of people with a lot of money who still have to take the injection they're told to take. A lot of people with a lot of money you can't say what they think a lot of people with a lot of money you still have to take the injection they're told to take a lot of people with a lot of money you can't stand up and say no that's wrong i don't agree with this because

they're going to lose contracts sponsorships etc so to say fuck you money i mean you have to have enough money to not ever work again depending on how you earn money because i'm completely and utterly self-sufficient i can't be canceled so i think my fuck you money number is actually going to be lower than others because my money will never stop. But I don't know. That made no sense. You don't think so? Because by definition, fuck you money would be you can say whatever you want.

And if you get fired or you have contracts, it doesn't matter because you're sitting on a pile of money. Well, then it's a very difficult question to answer because it depends on your lifestyle. It depends how you like to spend money, blah, blah, blah. So what's your number? Once you have 50M, then there's nothing else to buy. I mean, what are you going to buy? Like 50M is plenty of money. You could buy a stupid boat if you really wanted one,

but you could also charter one. I mean, besides that, there's literally nothing to buy with that kind of money. I think once you're above 20M, life's around the same, personally. I think that once you get above 20M, you're just doing it for sport. So I think that's around fuck you money. But if I only had 20 million, I'd still be concerned about having an income of some sorts. And if my income was dependent on me agreeing with certain paradigms that the social system, the matrix tries to propagate, then it would be different, right?

So it depends. It all depends on the individual. That's why I would say fuck you money. It's around 20M. Okay, that's fair. So the things you're doing now, you've said, what do you put out?

What is your, you said hundreds of millions of dollars you're worth. Bro, I'm a humble man. You didn't know that? I never said you're that worth. They didn't put this on the sheet. What? They didn't put this on the sheet.

I'm super humble. No, that wasn't on there. It wasn wasn't i'm as humble as they come i i don't i'm i'm just a poor guy out here in romania just with a with a with a whole bunch of cars but uh no i i'm so what's your net worth net worth is very difficult to quantify i don't believe in what net worth quantification i think it's all bullshit how do you quantify net worth? Companies can be... You can have a company with an eight times multiplier by one valuation. Liquid. If you had to go

liquid tomorrow. If I had to sell everything I own? If you had to just accumulate as much money as you could tomorrow, what could you do? In 24 hours, if I had to get hold of as much cash as possible, so I wouldn't be able to sell to my

companies that quickly. I wouldn't be able to sell any property that quickly. I'll give you a year. I'll even give you a year to say you can sell your companies. But it's like you're getting rid of cash as just, alright, we're playing a game in life and you're going to come up with some oxymoron. But whoever has the most

physical liquid money wins. You have one year to accumulate it. How much do you think you'd be worth? I think it's difficult. It is difficult because I think my companies are very, very hard to evaluate. The reason I'm giving you this answer and not a very short one is because I think that my companies rely so heavily on my brand that they're very, very difficult to sell. But if I have a company that makes $5 million a month, every single month, pure profit, completely online, then that's a valuable company, right? What's that a year? What's five times 12. And then you can put an eight times multiplier on that easily. So that's a three, $400 million company, but will anyone buy it? If I'm not associated to the company? I don't know. It's very difficult, but 300, three 50 easily.

So that's fuck you money. I mean, it's enough, but you know what? Having That's fuck you money. I mean, it's enough, but having fuck you money is not enough. I have a fuck you... You have to have a fuck you life. You can't just have fuck you money. I'm sitting out here in Romania inside of a house with 20 armed guards outside with a tower and AR-15s and I've got 10 passports

and 55 bank accounts. That's what you need to have fuck you money. You can't just sit in America with one passport. That sounds bad. you know you're like on the run yeah no but it's not like you're in the terminal it's not about being on the run to sit in america and have 20 million dollars with one passport sitting in america thinking you have fuck you money no you don't you say the wrong thing you piss the government off they're gonna come in your house they're gonna fucking take the house you own they're gonna lock you up you ain't got fuck you money for nothing it's all things of the whole paradigm's a lie the government's the biggest mafia in the world if you

can't tell them to fuck off you can't tell anyone to fuck off so the whole the whole idea of fuck you money it's all skewed anyway like you you have to be above the law in many different ways to truly have fuck you money and you're not going to do that under one jurisdiction do you think that you're able to be above the law where you live it's not about being above the law it's about it's about being above the law but the easiest way to become above the law where you live? It's not about being above the law. It's about being above the law. But the easiest way to become above the law is to be under lots of different jurisdictions. If you have 10 different passports, it's much harder to constrain you. During COVID, Americans, English people, whatever, were all stuck in their houses because they couldn't fly because of X rule. Well, if you have 10 passports, well, then you're not American on that day.

I'd turn up to countries and they'd say you're not allowed because you're English. I'd say, okay, well, then I'm Estonian. Estonians are allowed allowed, okay I'm Romanian Romanians are allowed in Same guy, different passport You have to have multiple passports, you have to be on multiple grids The idea of living off grid is complete fallacy You can't do that, you have to be on as many grids as possible

This is what the truly, you talk about fuck you money The people with fuck you money don't even own anything They own a share of an entity which owns things they can borrow They have unlimited citizenships and passports. They have money out in the metaverse in the sky hidden all around the world. Fuck you money isn't about having money in your bank account in your name. If you still do that, you can't say fuck you to anybody. I would disagree on some of that.

I think there could be another side that would argue the fuck you money is they have so much, but they don't have 20 armed guards and they can do everything you just said because they're viewed not as a threat to the government or they don't need the passports because they can track like i i'm guessing there's plenty of celebrities who are viewed as friendlies and don't have the setup that you have but can still travel as freely covid not covid whatever which to me would be above the fuck you that you just described because you do everything without switching it because and i am a fan of you dave and i like the things you say by the way but just you'd understand that the paradigms that we view the world in are completely and utterly different because you still believe

in the idea of a law-abiding citizen you believe that if you're a law-abiding citizen the government is never going to come for you and they're never going to hurt you because you stick to the rules and if you have not learned anything in the last three years of covid that the rules can be turned and used against you at any moment to lock you in your fucking house without reason where they can come along and become a communist country at the drop of a hat and literally restrict your very movement and you to sit there and say that i trust these people absolutely and completely with my freedom and control over my life is asinine because by the way i i don't i don't believe what you just i i don't a lot of

respects trust the government all that stuff nobody has i feel like i i so i don't agree with what you're saying but i do feel like there's people not me in position of power who have manipulated the government for their benefit and completely right so i i guess they're just two different things they're they're they're the ones who run the government. No, but my point is the absolute when you talk about fuck you money to me, the idea of fuck you money is they told me to stay in my house because of X. I decided not to. I've gone outside. The police are now here and I told them, fuck off, fuck you. That's fuck you money. And that takes more than just money. That's my point. My point is that telling listen, a broke boy can tell anyone to fuck off like the average guy can tell the average guy to fuck off all day long if we're not talking

about telling the government to get fucked and who we talking about right but take an example like the governor of california gavin newsom right he's rich he's the governor of california they had the strictest lockdowns they had and then he waltzed out to like napa and had a lunch and dinner at a fancy restaurant, no mask, but that's almost a flaunting. Fuck you. It's like, I'll tell, I'll tell you the rules, but I don't have to play by it.

I mean, you shut off my electricity. You shut off my electricity. We threw a party at our house. He turned off our electricity and everything. That is exactly my point. This is, these are the people who are in charge and this is my point.

So when you said earlier, what's fuck you money. And I said, money is the easy part of the equation. My my my rebuttal to that is that if you only have an american passport and you are governed by people like the man you just described and the only government which will allow you to reside in that country permanently is the united states any other government any other country is going to tell you no you have to go home after x amount of time you can't tell anybody anything you are a peon inside of a, you're a slave inside

of the Matrix still. So you may, people may look at me and say, why does he live in an obscure Eastern European country with his own private army? Why does he need so many citizenships, etc.? Because I can get on my private jet and disappear. And anyone with money who has not put that kind of plan in place, I don't think can really truly tell anyone to fuck off.

Because they will send someone to your house and they will drag you out in fucking handcuffs. That's the end i guess the only semantics i'm saying is i think there are people who like almost on top of the government are using that as like their vehicle and they would like the ones that you're disappearing from could disappear as well but they're kind of laughing at everybody else but But some of it, I agree with what you're saying here. Yeah, well, I've just tried very, very hard to escape the matrix. I think the whole point of having money is to escape the matrix. There's a lot of people with money

whose money still constricts them. It's very easy to get rich if you're going to be constricted by the money. If you try and make money in a way that you're no longer constricted, it's much more difficult. I have friends worth hundreds of millions of dollars, right? But it's all improper in the United States. It's not liquid. It's hard to sell. It's fully... The tax

man's all over it. The banks are all over it. They can't just disappear quickly. They're still controlled. They're still constricted. They may be rich, but they're not free. They're not free in any regard. Where do you make all your money? Because I'm outside of the Matrix, Dave. Where'd you make... I'm in Zion. Have you not seen the movie? I'm in Zion. I come in and out of the Matrix, Dave. Where'd you make, like... I'm in Zion. Have you not seen the movie?

I'm in Zion. I come in and out of the Matrix. But how'd you make your first million? I had a company that had webcam girls talking to guys online. All boils down to selling sex. One way or the other. There you go. Sex sells.

There you go. All right. I'm sorry, Bree. I cut you off. Did you or the other. There you go. Sex sells. There you go. All right. I'm sorry, Brie. I cut you off. Did you have a question? Are you like a paranoid guy? Do you think that there are people after you? Like, why do you need to...

Are you ever going to have to need to escape? It's not about being paranoid because firstly, everyone calls you paranoid until the day you're prepared. That's the first thing. The second thing is that nobody is after me and I'm a law-abiding citizen

and I can fly to America right now and stay there forever if I so choose. It's just I don't see why people are so comfortable to live with absolutely zero contingencies. It's very it's ostriches head in the sand. It's it'll be fine. And I think the last few years in Western countries, America wasn't even the worst. You look at Canada, Australia, New Zealand, et cetera. America wasn't even the worst you look at Canada Australia New Zealand etc if they've not woken you up to the tyranny which can be enforced upon you at random for basically no reason and you don't think you need to do anything at all to prepare for a repeat of that to me that is ignorant very simple I think that if you think they've done this shit once and they're not going to

come up with some new excuse to do it again, you are ignorant. They're going to do it again. And they're intent on enslaving mankind one way or another. And I, throughout the entire pandemic, lived a life of absolute freedom. I went anywhere I wanted to any country I wanted, anytime I wanted, without wearing a mask, without injections, purely because I had so many citizenships, no one could tie me down. There was always a hole a hole there was always a way in you add in some private jets and you're done and i don't see why people don't want to live that way why do you want to sit and go well i have one blue passport and if uncle sam decides i'm a shit muncher and i have to stay home that's fine like where's your sovereignty where's your why don't you stand up and go no i'm an individual and i don't want to listen to this shit i don don't call that paranoid. I call that being prepared.

All right. This entire Matrix, was the Matrix like an eye-opening movie for you or what? Or did you already have this? Because you have a lot of parallels to the actual movie is what you're kind of describing yourself as, like, a neo-type guy. It's got to be your favorite movie. Morpheus, did you walk into that movie like, ho hum, here's my popcorn. Excuse your life. And you came out, you're like, holy fuck.

I think this is me. Because you are describing the movie. Yeah, but I use the Matrix because it's an easy pop culture reference for the normie to understand. But my ideas are not new. Like the whole, like George Carlin was saying them in the 80s. These are not new ideas. These are not new paradigms. It's not new like the whole like george carlin was saying them in the 80s

these are not new ideas these are not new paradigms it's not new enslavement there's been a lot around for a very long time it's just easy for me to to reference that modern pop culture icon right it's a modern pop culture cinematic film that people understand i i don't want to sit here and sound like i'm some kind of guy who's on the run from the cops because i'm not if i was on the run i wouldn't be doing podcasts. I just think that the true wealth, to go back to the original question as a professional, I'm answering the original question. The question was, fuck you, money. Well, if you're going to talk about fuck you, money, then fuck you, money to me sounds like freedom.

And freedom requires you to be beyond the jurisdiction of a single government. That's my answer. My answer is, fuck you, money is not just money. You need a bunch more. You give an American citizen with an american passport 100 million dollars and watch him piss off the government and let's see how free he is he'll be in a fucking cell there's part of that's true all the only thing i've disagreed with it is i think there's people at within government top of government who pull the strings and have both they can do whatever

they want but they're not sitting with 20 armed guards either what is freedom to you dave freedom to me it's like being able to do whatever you want do you think you can do whatever you want in america no do you think i live in romania right romania is not a free country technically do you think i could get away with doing more here than I could do in America? If I were to drive my Bugatti Chiron, if I were to get my Chiron and drive it 200 miles an hour down the high street in the middle of the city,

do you think I'd get in more trouble here or more trouble in America? Probably in America, but it does depend who you are. There's plenty of people who've gotten away with things in America. It's like, how the heck do they get away with that? Correct, so this is the exact point. Every single system, all of them are corrupt.

The judicial system is corrupt. The medical system is corrupt. The financial system is corrupt. It's all corrupt. It's all a matter of who you are. Now, in America, the game is limited to ultra billionaires who control the government, as you've said. In other countries, anyone with money and some basic social skills and some nice friends can play the game. If we're going to accept that every single system on the planet is corrupt,

why would you live in a place where you cannot access the corruption? Does that make sense, logically? Or would you rather live in a system where you can say, you know what, I am important enough within said society that if the police stop me, I can give them $10 and they'll fuck off. Why would you allow yourself to live in a society where you know others get to be corrupt and you can't?

Why would you do that? Yeah, you're just saying, I mean, you're basically saying you're, like, country agnostic is essentially what he's saying. Correct. Because countries aren't real. Countries aren't even real anymore. The whole idea of a nation state has fallen. The whole idea of being American is a false paradigm.

The whole idea of being Canadian is false. It's fake. Do you like going to sleep knowing there's 20 armed guards? That's the part I can't get. I sleep better. It's a big thing. All right. You're also known.

You said it appears wildly sexist stuff. Are you anti-woman? I love women. In fact, interesting statistic, 100% of the people I've ever had sex with were women. So I love women. I have nothing against women at all. I'm not sexist in any regard. I'm not misogynist either.

I'm a realist. Like I'm a realistic person. As a realist in the modern world, they're going to call you sexist, misogynist, et cetera. But I'm none of those things. I am just – Why do they call you that? Why do they call you that? Because I say –

What do you think it is that you say that makes people think you're like sexist because i said the truth which is uh women can't fight men are stronger like base more true things i i think another thing i said is i said and and maybe i'll upset the ladies on the podcast i hope not but please correct me if I'm wrong. I said, if I were to get on a plane and I were to that plane was to fly into the eye of a hurricane, there was a 50% chance of it crashing. I'd want a male pilot because I think that males are better under stress and under pressure. I think they're less likely to get emotional and in a life or death situation. That's why they make better soldiers.

That doesn't mean that doesn't make me misogynist. That doesn't make me sexist.'s just true women are better at other things than men and i'll sit here and say women are better at x but i will say that men are better at y i'm not going to sit and pretend that that we're all the same we're not under pressure when your life is on the line anyone with anyone who's honest would want a male pilot in said situation you would not want a female pilot so i disagree with that i think that's a person by person but i agree with men are stronger than women i don't think anyone can argue that if you you're telling me if you were to fly into a hurricane and you had the choice between a male pilot and a female pilot you wouldn't have zero preference at all

dave not knowing not knowing anything about either of them they're both pro pilots no i wouldn't i would not talk about dunking a basketball well i would choose a man because i know from my own personal experiences that when shit hits the fan and emotions are high and it's life or death that the man is more likely to remain calm and calm is what's going to keep me alive so i would choose the man for the same reason i would choose women to do other things let me give you another example then dave if gender roles aren't real and you're now no i think there are gender roles are real that particular example though i i'm sure you can have great female pilots i never said you couldn't i said i'd choose a man in that particular situation i don't think that's like i don't know about brie and no man like that doesn't make yeah brie o'malley do you think that's like do you

call that like super sexist or where where you guys do you think that's like, do you call that like super sexist or where are you guys at? Well, I think it's like with what Dave said too, I think it depends on the person. Like there could be a way more emotional pilot

that's a male and then a female one that could be more emotionally stronger. But regardless, he's saying Yeah, I think he's saying you don't know anything

about the pilot. You just can pick blind. You're going to either have a male or a female. I disagree with that. Yeah. It's a generalization because exceptions don't disprove the rule but i don't think that makes you like satan for saying that no but i think like you say a lot of stuff about

women like that they're your property that's not what i said i was talking about an only fans company when that was question was asked but i said that if a woman is going out with a man she belongs to that man that's his woman so she wants to do only fan she owes him some money because she's his yes that's what i think well that's crazy you think if a man if you so you think that a man going out with the girl that that's just your property there can't be an equal relationship that one was nuts that one was not crazy no but no that that one you can if i understood what you said that if a guy and a girl is dating and a girl does OnlyFans, she owes him a cut? No, 100%.

She's his girl. 100%. He is his girl. But what does that have to do with anything? Because she's his. Yeah, so that's... So that is you saying that women are your property. It's not about being property.

It's about the fact that she belongs to him and the intimate parts of her body belong to him because they're in a relationship. And if she wants to sell those, he has a stake in those parts of her body. So it's reverse. Male porn star owes the woman. I don't know because I think the women belong to the man. I think the woman's given up. Yeah, that's inherently where you get called sexist. No, it's not.

You can call me sexist if you want, but if you look at marriage, it's the bride's father who gives her away. It's not the groom's father. It is. I got to guess. So it's slavery. Yeah, no, but I got to guess as somebody who's multicultural and everything, that certainly is a tradition that does not apply everywhere. The woman is always given over to the man.

Read the Bible, read the Koran, read. You can go to the aisle. No chance. There's definitely there's likean cultures where they don't do that i'm sure there are some obscure tribes somewhere i mean i can't say i'm not a professional you get it you seem like a very smart guy you seem like a smart guy you're saying a woman is the property of a man if they're dating i'm not saying they're appropriate i'm saying they're given to the man and they belong to the man it doesn't mean they're a pure property without emotion it if they're dating. I'm not saying they're a property. I'm saying they're given to the man and they belong to the man. It doesn't mean they're a pure property without emotion. It means they're given to the man.

They take the man's name. You said it's her parts. You said it's the guy's parts. You're like, if she's on OnlyFans, the guy owns those parts, so he gets a cut. Well, those parts are intimate, right? That's the whole point of her being his. Yeah, but you didn't do reverse. When I said if a male porn star does it,

he doesn't owe the girl a cut. Correct. Because he doesn't belong to her. She still belongs to him. Correct. So that's the sexist part. And you've also said that you could have multiple partners, but a female that was with you couldn't also have multiple partners? Well, a woman could say that same thing if she decided.

She could say, I can sleep with multiple men, but my men can't sleep with multiple women if she so choose. We're all free individuals, right? You wouldn't agree if a woman said that? I don't think... I would personally find that revolting, correct? But there are women who find what I say revolting. So you're not telling other people what to think. You're just saying how you think. Yeah, I mean, I think that

I think if a man is not sexually exclusive, it's not the same as if a woman is, because with a woman you have the paternity issue. With a man, you don't have a paternity issue. If I have three girlfriends and they all get pregnant, we know who the mother and who the father is.

If you have one woman and three men, you don't know who even the parents are if she got pregnant. So it's a whole big issue, right? Science can step in and fix it. But it's a bit disgusting. DNA tests are pretty accessible nowadays. Of course, yeah.

That's exactly it. So I said science can step in and fix it, but that doesn't mean it's not haram and against the will of God. Look, read the Bible. Every single man had multiple wives. Not a single woman had multiple husbands. It's against the will of God. It's disgusting. In the eyes of God himself. That would assume that if you're going in this multi-universe where everybody's reading the Bible, which is there's different religions all across the globe, read different things believe in different things um interesting interesting yeah i'm sorry what my point is if we talk about tradition we talk about i'm not

talking about myself here it's not about my personal life talking traditional traditionally every single man in history had multiple wives and there was not a single woman who was celebrated for having multiple husbands female promiscuity has always been disgusted and disgusting and frowned upon in every single book ever written ever in all of history in all cultures ever women were supposed to be virgins women sleeping with lots and lots and lots of men has never been celebrated ever besides in the last 40 years in the west in a degrading society well yeah okay cool but if you're going to look at it traditionally traditionally women were not supposed to act that way and i don't think women want to act that way anyway i don't think women intrinsically want to fuck a bunch of people

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It's the fact that I managed to retain 87,000 students. So there's 87,000 people out in the world making more money than they invest each month. You've never had a cancellation? Of course I've had cancellations. Because there's people who are lazy and there's people who quit. There's people who don't work very hard. But the people who work hard stay. So we have 87,000 people who are retained. I don't know how many we've ever signed up in history but 87 000 people are making more money than they invest each each month and i think that's

pretty successful overall for a university good i mean that was that was that was a little bit weird with words the way you said it if you rewind it where you're like we have 87 000 signups retained 87 000 like nobody's kids like well i don't know how many we saw that was a little wordplay okay yeah i don't know the total signups retained 87,000. I'm like, nobody's kids. Like, well, I don't know how many we saw. That was a little wordplay. Okay. Yeah. I don't know the total signups. Maybe in total 150,000 people signed up. But we currently, as it stands right this moment,

have 80,000 people paying a current subscription. It's a monthly $50 a month. Correct. It's quite a business. Women sign up. Absolutely. Of course they can. I don't know where,

getting this impression I hate women. I mean, we can attempt to, we can purport that. We can attempt to label me without all we want. I'm happy to discuss that. I absolutely not really love women. I have nothing against women. I believe women are the most precious things on the planet.

They create life. They should be protected. They should be provided for. I would never let a woman pay for a bill. I would never let a woman, if someone touched any of my women, I would stand up against 10 men by myself and risk my life to protect her. I believe that women are beautiful creatures. I just don't think that they're as emotionally calm as men in stressful

situations. I don't think they can fight like a man can. And for the same reason, I would never drop my children in an all-male nursery. I think that's strange and weird. I would only drop them in an all-female nursery. Women do certain things and men do certain things and we live in a world now where the whole idea of the roles has been conflated to the fact where if i come along and say women are better with children and men are better at fighting that i'm somehow fucking sexist when it's clearly true there's nothing wrong with stating the facts it's the truth you're mixing them up because i agree with some of what you're saying like yeah but then you throw in the only fans you need 100% thing. My only thing anybody hears arguing that in a fist fight, a man's going to win 99%.

What about intelligence? Do you think women are as smart as men? Well, it's been proven that the smartest people in the world are men. See, that's been proven. No, that's been proven. That's been proven. How? What? Where? So there's the bell curve, right?

So men are more likely to be on the extreme. So the most stupid people on the planet are men, and the most intelligent people on the planet are men. Women are more likely inside of the middle of the deviation. So this has all been proven, right? Men are more likely to be on the extreme. Read the study. It's more likely men are on the extreme.

What study? Google it. You're professional. I What study? Google it. You're professional. I'm going to Google it. What am I writing in for a Google search? Are men smarter than women? Okay. This should be interesting to what comes up.

Are men smarter than women? But I can also give you personal experience if you'd like. Yeah, let's hear it. Hockey socks off. Sweet. Let's talk about the personal experience, right? So my father was a chess player. My father's one of the personal experience right so my father my father was a chess player my father's one of the best chess players in the world it was actually the highest

ranked black chess player in history at the time i grew up and i was a chess player from the age of four to the age of 13 i was a professional chess player on my route to being a grandmaster long story my my parents split up i lost my coach blah blah blah so i grew up in the chess world the chess world's a really interesting world to grow up in because you're around hyper intelligent people who are socially awkward. A lot of them are like autistic and a bit strange. Some XKGB guys, some real weird guys who don't talk, but it's a world of ultra, ultra intelligent people. Women cannot compete with men at chess. Now, I'm not calling all women stupid. I'm not saying that there aren't some good female chess players. I'm not saying I could be every woman. No, there are great female chess players, but on average, as a whole, the best chess players in the world

are men, not women, because women cannot computate at the level the men do. That is just a statistical fact. At Google, you're going to say it's run by the people, but I googled, are men smarter than women and literally every single study says there's no difference well i and i'll find the study for you watch read a study saying the most stupid people in the world are men and the most intelligent people in the world are men because we fall to

the outward deviations of the bell curve whereas women are more likely to be in the medium so i'm not this is not sexist because i be in the medium so i'm not this is not sexist because i'm saying the most stupid i think i think it's wrong like based on everything i just think it's like there's like okay studies have pop up okay then search if you were to look up the highest iqs in the world the first 10 first 20 look them up are they men or women i haven't done this look it up but let's talk about my personal experience right let's talk about the chess world the best female chess player in the world simply cannot compete with the men i don't know where she is number 50 or something like internationally right there is no physical advantage there's no reason

why men should win there's no physical element to to chess you think who do you think plays chess more men or women overall in the world that's a good argument so the argument is that men play chess more often so there's more likely to be higher-ranking chess players. There's a larger pool to pick from. There's a larger pool to pick from, of course. But this has been very heavily dissected inside the chess world. They found 500 female chess players, 500 women, 500 men, started them at school at the same time, started them at chess school.

I just hate highest IQ in the world. Literally what comes up, Marilyn von Savant has one of the world's highest IQs. She is known as the smartest person in the world. Literally what comes up. Marilyn von Savant has one of the world's highest IQs. She is known as the smartest person in the world. Cool. All right, cool. Then I'm totally wrong. I never even said. All I told you is that the most stupid people in the world were men.

The most intelligent people in the world were men. I read a study on it four or five years ago, and I thought, you know what? I know some stupid men. I don't know women that dumb. I agree with that. And I know some really smart men. I don't know women that smart. I agree with that. And I know some really smart men. I don't know women that smart. I agree with that.

I think you're very smart. But for everything you say, there can be argument that an intelligent woman wants nothing to do with you because you think they're stupid. But stupid guys are like, this guy's going to make me a ton of money. So you run into a lot of stupid guys. The intelligent women are going their own way. Well, that would be a large generalization, Dave, because you don't know. That's what we're doing. There's been a lot of those here.

Well, you don't know the women I talk to. You don't know the women I talk to. I don't. I absolutely don't. Correct. So that's the first thing. Second thing, I'm not saying I'm smarter than every female on the planet. The two women who are on this podcast right now could very well be more intelligent than me.

I told you about a study that I read, and now I'm telling you about my personal experience. The personal experience is in the chess world, which I grew up in, women cannot compete with men. It's a purely computational, it's's purely brain power and they simply cannot compete and there's a whole bunch of examples of this right like i said we can easily reverse this conversation i can tell you all the things women are better at before you call me sexist we can do it the other way around but if you look at formula one there's no physical advantage women can't drive like men why their reactions are slower it's been proven that females have a slower reaction time than men why because they evolved they didn't need it to evolve they weren't hunting

again for race car driving you could argue the pool of men i mean even with car driving look at look who's in it it's al answer al answer junior al answer like it's you got to have the money you got to have the access and Family's probably been racing. Correct. So there's a lot of factors. We have a game because we're going around it. By the way, fascinating to talk to. But what is this game?

I can't even imagine the game we built for this guy. It's called What Are Your Thoughts On? Yeah. So we're just going to list people and things they do and then just give us your thoughts on them. Sure. Kind of like what we've been doing the whole podcast. Pretty much, yeah. Yeah. It's an easy game. All right. So first one, what are your thoughts on them sure kind of like what we've been doing the whole podcast pretty much yeah yeah it's easy game all right so first one what are your thoughts on the matrix

that's we know that yeah we um it was a very interesting movie and i think that it it draws striking similarities between the world we live in today and the world that is portrayed inside of the film i think there are many people who ignore their own eyes and ignore their own ears to believe what they are told to believe. And that is what I call the matrix. And I think the last few years has proven that more than anything.

When people are running around pretending to be scared of something when they've never seen with their own eyes any single damage from the whole fucking... Let's not even start because I know it's a taboo subject of mine. Okay. All right, next one.

What are your thoughts on guys who take their shirts off and dance on social media? Uh, that's, that's an interesting one. Uh, I think that, yeah,

I just, just do you do this? Is that why this question is on there? I can't dance, bro. So I don't know. We have an example kind of like, of they're just making fun of me.

Yeah, we have an example. How do you not, just making fun of me. Yeah, we have to sort of. How do you not know this is about me? You can be my little baby girl. Make you go side to side. All right. Sorry, Josh. I'm about to rip into you.

So it's all good, man. Go for it. No, nothing. Nothing personal, right? No, it's all good. Cool. I think that the I think that men have a very unique life path and it's very difficult to try and achieve status as a man it's not easy to stand out from the crowd because the

only way to truly achieve individuality is usually a long difficult road it takes a long time to become an important man and even what women expect of an important man, you need to be smart, charismatic, intelligent, strong, have a nice car, nice apartment, good network, good friends. You need to be able to handle stress. You need to be competent. There's so many things you need to be able the internet where young men, especially instead of trying to go the very hard road of becoming a man who naturally garners attention due to his competence instead think, well, this dance gets views. So if I do the stupid little dance, I'll get views. And it's a cheap substitute for actual quality as a man. That's what I think it all is. And it's an attention seeking and I understand why they do it. But when you grow up as a man and you grow into a man of status and genuine stature, you're uninterested in doing little dances because you are important simply because you exist. I got to be honest, as much as some people aren't going to like, Andrew, that little that little speech you gave about a man. That's going to be like if I was on speed dating, I'd have that speech here.

Here I am. It's like build a long career, like handle stress, all that. Yeah. No, that was good. That's what being a man is, right? Being a man is about taking the trauma which happens to you and internalizing it and using it in a way to build yourself into a stronger, more powerful man. A man who's never had trauma is not a capable man. If you were to find a woman and give her a man who's never had any trauma in his life,

she'd hate him. There's nothing about him, which is good. You need a man who's had a whole bunch of trauma and lived through it. And that's why becoming a man is so difficult. That's why becoming a man is so hard. And if you're a top tier male, you get attention by default. But if you've not been through that process or you don't want to go through that pain, then you resort to other things.

And other things include TikTok dances. Wait, how do you think that you don't go through go through that pain then you resort to other things and other things include tiktok dances wait how do you how do you think that you don't go through pain in life still if you do tiktok dances well that you don't go through pain i'm saying that if you go through enough pain and you internalize it the right way and you become a high enough status man that you don't need to be doing tiktok dances to simply get attention i get attention for talking right i don't have to pay i just talk my my whole life story enough is attention i'll get in the ring i've had 87 professional fights i'll get in the ring and beat the fuck out somebody if i want people to look at me i don't have to do little dances so you could argue that josh has manipulated a a tool or a vehicle to get great stuff i like josh no i know but i'm not like you

i'm just answering the question. No, no, no. It's not even personal about Josh. I mean, like, I don't disagree with what you had to say. I think that, like, when you are growing into being a man, it is that trauma that builds you into the man you're going to become because you're going to be the person that's, like, when you're in a household, I believe, a lot of the time, or, like, how I look at it is, like, even with my friend groups with girls, it's like I want to be be the person that's going to like, you can crown my shoulder, you can crown my shoulder, you can crown my shoulder. So it's like, I agree with what, with what you said for sure. And that, in that, uh, like aspect, but I think that I can also use from what I've done from when I was like, you know, 14 to 18 to 19 to now being 20 to like go and push myself into different, uh,

stratospheres that I would have never been able to touch. I respect that because we live in an attention economy. And if you can manage to garner attention, you're going to make a lot of money. I absolutely respect that. My point is that this is modern new world in my world. And I'm only 35 years old. When I was 17, you didn't go on the Internet and do TikTok dances. You wanted to matter. You needed to have money. You need to be strong. You need to be intelligent. You need to have important friends. You had to become a man. And what I'm saying is that in the world we live in today the internet has allowed certain people to skip an entire process an entire process of manhood now you have twitch streamers who are 19 years old fat drinking fucking soya milk who have millions and

millions of people paying attention to them and they're rich now so they're statistically successful but they are not men and they will never become men because to be a man you must suffer you must suffer and you must survive and my point is that when these tiktok dances are being done it's a way to garner attention without having to go through the genuine hardship which is required to garner attention as a genuine male that's the point i think you could also argue that boxing is a dance too uh it's a bit different than a TikTok dance. But I mean, you are still on display and you're, I mean. Correct. But my life is on the line.

Yeah, I was going to say, I usually don't have like the threat of my nose being broken when I'm doing a TikTok dance. Yeah. No, forget the nose being broken. I've seen five people die. I don't want to sit here and brag and talk about the things I've done to people.

There are people who will never be the same again after they stepped in the ring with me ever again. I've seen screaming wives crying over their lifeless husband. I've done things you wouldn't believe. When you step in that ring, it's a different level. It's not a TikTok dance. It's actually extremely disrespectful. I know you didn't mean to disrespect, but it's extremely disrespectful to even insinuate that. It's not a TikTok dance.

It's life and death. It's gladiators. It's a completely different realm facts i mean i've seen i've seen people's lives change after seeing my tiktoks totally different reason more like they're just mine just changed mine just changed but it's like yeah yeah but you know you know they're not let's end it one more brie let's pick a good one and we'll let him get out of here there's two more all right two more um what are your thoughts on girls who get with a guy's friend right after ending things with him? I think that's the man's fault.

Wow. You're getting dragged here, John. I didn't see that coming at all. That was actually about Bri. Well, yeah, that was about me. Well, I ended things with a guy, so I owed him nothing, and then I started dating his friend. That's the man's fault.

And I think that's the man's fault because I think that, firstly, 99% of most of the problems in the world are men's fault. I don't think women are at fault for anything. So as much as everyone wants to call me sexist, I think that women are innocent creatures in that regard. I think that the Matrix puts – I think people may still say that's sexist, but go ahead. I'm fine.

Okay, then i'm sexist but it's all men's fault and i'll tell you why because i could have the most beautiful girlfriend in the world and me and her could break up and the chance of her sleeping with my friend is less than zero percent if you're the kind of man who's rolling with men who will fuck your girl after you split up with her then you deserve everything that happens to you because let me tell you something me and my friends the things we've been through, it's been life or fucking death. And if I have people beside me who will literally take a bullet for me, take a knife for me, we're going to we're going to fight outnumbered side by side soldiers.

They're not going to fucking go behind my back for a little bit of pussy. Any man who would do that, any man who would snake his boy, because I believe I believe birds of a feather mock together roll together right any man who would snake his boy for a girl is is is is the kind of guy who has the kind of friends who i wouldn't even associate with so i think he deserves it if you're rolling with those kind of people you are that kind of person and you're that kind of person that's going to happen to you me and my friends me and my team it could be megan fucking fox zero percent chance zero so he deserves it he deserves it because he's a bitch roll little bitches he deserves it it's his fault okay last question what are your thoughts on men who have pet names for their significant others in matching jewelry or tattoos pet names is pretty normal i don't think there's anything wrong with pet names i think that's cute it's nice um matching tattoos

i mean again it's like we're just yeah that was directed at me yeah it was all three of us so okay not matching tattoos it depends on the tattoo i mean like whatever i don't you know i don't care matching jewelry i don't think that's a big deal i think that relationships are a beautiful thing i think that men and women should be in love if they want to pet names and and tattoos and stuff that's a beautiful thing i'm not against male female love in any regard i'm the complete opposite i think men and women should completely and utterly be in love. I think that a woman has a role to play, as does a man, and there are different roles. It doesn't mean I don't think they don't complement. I think they complement absolutely.

I think the biggest problem with the world is not enough men and women are in love for long enough. I'm the most conservative man on the planet. I think that men and women should be married and stick together and stick by each other and protect each other. A man should protect his woman physically, and she should should protect him spiritually i think that's a beautiful thing i don't think there's anything wrong with that in any regard this whole the internet is a strange place and i'll sit here and i'll say i'm out to protect women in in a physical situation or even

in a fucking plane crash i'm out to protect women let me drive same reason i'd park the car in a tight spot no big deal i'm the man just let me do it and everyone's gonna sit here and pretend i'm an evil person it's bullshit it's i don't i don't think it's evil and i think there's plenty of women who would enjoy being in a relationship where a man is filling traditional gender roles but there are also plenty of women who are view themselves as every bit the equal of a man and don't want that. I understand. And those are the exact kind of women, the exact kind of women I would never, ever give my time of day to.

Any woman is going to sit there and think it's more important to argue with me about how she is as capable as a man, everything, blah, blah, blah, as opposed to just letting me pay the bill and be pleasant is not the kind of woman I want to fucking talk to because it's uninteresting. And it's a Western phenomenon. It truly is a Western phenomenon. I've been to 72 countries. I've lived in 13, right? I've been all around the world.

I grew up in America and England. 72. 72. Did you just make up that number? You actually know 72 countries. I was four-time world champion for like 13 years. I'm not. I'm sure you travel the world. I guess that's a lot of traveling. I don't know how many states I've been to off the top of my head.

Well, let me tell you, this is a Western phenomenon, and it's truly an early Western. If you were to go on a date in America, you'd have a girl sitting there trying to tell you she's your equal. If you were to go on a date in Moscow, you'd have a girl sitting there going, my man needs to take care of me. I want him to take care of me. I'll do my job, but he must protect and provide for me. So it's a Western phenomenon, right? It depends where you go. It depends.

And this whole idea of this obsession with equality is a truly Western thing. And I don't think it's particularly healthy or important. I don't look at a woman thinking, is she my equal? Is she below me? Is she above me? I don't do that. I sit with a woman and we either enjoy each other's company or we don't. But I know my role as a man. I believe that as a man, I should pay for the first date. I believe I should open the car door. I believe I believe i should protect her provide for her i believe if she's my woman she should be able to come to me with her problems and i should fix them that that makes me a sexist and a horrible person fine it doesn't i agree with everything but i also think she can have a higher iq than me okay so by extension right because this is what happens you agree with

the baseline everyone agrees with the foundations of what i say. But when I build on top of it, they try and pretend it's sexist. By extension, if I have authority over her, if I have responsibility over her, I apologize. If I have responsibility, which I have, I'm paying for things. I'm making sure she's safe. I'm driving her. I'm taking out the car, etc. I must have a degree of authority. For the same reason, if I have responsibility over, and everyone's going to lose their mind, it's an example, it's only an analogy, if I have responsibility over a child, I have to have some authority. You cannot be responsible for something that doesn't listen to you. You can't be responsible for a dog if it doesn't obey you, or a child if it doesn't

obey you, or a woman if it doesn't obey you. It's not sexist to say, I'm responsible for her. You just said, if you compared a woman to a dog and a baby. Yeah, and I knew that was going to be, that's why I said everyone's going to lose their mind. It's just – Maybe pick some better ones then if you want the women to listen to you. I can't be responsible.

Then cool. Let's take a beautiful sports car. It doesn't matter. A house. Land. Whatever. Whatever I'm responsible for, I have to have a degree of authority over. You can't sit there and say you're responsible for me.

But where the disconnect is going is you start with the baseline but at one point during this conversation not to go circular you were saying there's studies that women physically can't be as smart as men i google it it's wildly untrue the number one fucking iq was a woman no i said i believe i don't believe women are as smart as men is what i said well you threw you threw some studies. And I told you. But you're entitled, and you'll find women who love that you guys will be happily ever after. And I also said that men are the most stupid people on the planet. So let's not soundbite, right?

I said that the most extreme intelligence, whether plus or minus, is going to be male. And my point is that, cool, well, if I have a woman and I'm responsible for her, which I want to be because it's my masculine imperative, I need some degree of authority. If I'm responsible for her safety, I need to be able's my masculine imperative i need some degree of authority if i'm responsible for her safety i need to be able to say no you're not walking home alone at night you're super smart so you can't do the don't soundbite me when you're like i don't want this to be a soundbite but women's like having a dog and a baby in a car you know what you're saying that's a soundbite you can't be like don't soundbite it that's a sound that's a walking soundbite you can soundbite it it's fine you know i know you know no no because there's two kinds of people right there's people who will

understand that it's simply an analogy and i'm trying to make a point and there's people who are going to be offended by the analogy in and of itself and that's there are different levels of iq the people who actually understand the point i'm trying to make is that when you have responsibility over something you need a degree of authority the reason the captain goes down with the ship is because he's responsible for what happens on the ship. If everyone ignores his orders, then he's not expected to go down with the ship. This is the point. Me saying I'm going to protect and provide for women and that may gives me a degree of authority. If that makes me sexist, so be it. But I'm going to be responsible for my woman. I'm going to do the best I can possibly by her. I'm going to protect her in

every possible way, give her the best life I can possibly give her. And by extension, that gives me a degree of authority. Why would I be giving having all that responsibility for her to sit there and say i don't fucking listen to you that doesn't make sense well you get to a point i would think where there's mutual respect so there isn't like the authority it's a give and take on a healthy relationship correct a healthy relationship has mutual respect so in a healthy relationship the man will say x and the woman say yeah i agree with that okay i won't do it i'm not saying it has to be a command orders i'm not saying that i'm saying that if a man's responsible he should have an authority and if a woman is responsible she should have authority there are relationships in the world today where the woman has to tell

the man to stop playing video games stop smoking weed get up and go to the gym stop being a piece of shit then she has responsibility over him she's basically his mother she has absolute authority in that household he should obey every word she should obey every word she says because he's a jackass so it's not he's not even a sex thing it's a human dynamics it's basic human dynamics but we're talking about me here me as an individual i'm not gonna have a woman mother me i don't need it so i'm gonna be in charge fascinating interview andrew tate thank you stay safe out there with all the guns and everything else i listen love you, hate you. You can talk.

That's for sure. You're welcome to visit anytime, friend. Oh, yeah. Maybe I'll take you up on that. All right. I'll talk to you later. Thank you for coming on, man. Cheers, bro.